February 7, 2024 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everyone on this show is super horny. If we're
gonna do it, change, let's do it tan. There's a
lot of horniness going on lately. I hit the thing
on the tank.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's the tangent with the bread show, giving you all
the we couldn't talk about on air.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We're getting right into it. We're getting right into the
tang Why is everyone so horny? I mean, Paulina horny
because she's pregnant. I think that's a real that's like
a real thing. No, it is, yes, pregnancy horniness.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
They say, well, it's tang I can say this. They
say that pregnancy punani is the best one. I heard
that recently.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yes, yes, I've heard supposedly.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Why did they say it's the best for you, o people?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
They say, for for the man's I'm assuming refere you
can chime in on this. This is true or not,
but basically that it's It's just it just feels better.
I guess things are more more. I hate the word moist,
But is that true?
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Yeah? Like fluffy?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Yeah, fluffy sauce.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I don't know. Yeah, really is that true? Ref you?
Speaker 7 (00:53):
I couldn't tell you. I've never had uh no, whit
what wait?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So and I'm hold on, let's let's just safe place.
So Jess gets pregnant, you guys just don't.
Speaker 7 (01:03):
Yeah, it's been like almost four four and a half months.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Oh wait really is no no, no judgment, no.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Judge, Like it's it's I think I think it's me,
Like it's weird for me.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Okay, I'm not men feel like that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
She's got to be like at least like wanting to
write yea with you if you were down, maybe you
would And no judgment.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
For me, but like yeah, maybe she did.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
All doesn't it help out to like going into labor?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It can? It can? It can?
Speaker 8 (01:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Sort of like hey, I'm just forty weeks and she's
like we gotta it can.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Get it moving. She's getting it. That's right, that's right,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I did ask a got to collegist. I went on
a couple of days with like essentially, are you ejaculating
on the baby's head?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And sort of.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yike, I don't hear that.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I mean it's sort of like.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Not exactly but kind of, I mean, like where does
it go like this, Yeah, there's a barrier, but like
it's not it's sort of.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Sort of but if you're not dilated, right.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't look, I don't know. We laughed about it.
It's not like a real thing. I'm not giving medical
advice here. I just it's like I can see why.
I can see why that would be a weird thing
to get over.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Especially if you're packing like Drake. You know what I'm saying,
give me well.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
That baby that would have a dent.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Hey, the doctor says, that's it's cool safe. I'm gonna try.
But it's not the same for me. I feel funny
if anything.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, you feel funny because you just don't feel sexy
or what you don't feel sexy?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I have like pains.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I know this thing called I call it firecrotch.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
It it's called lightning.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I texted my friend Nikki was like, what does firecrotch
feel like? And she's like, you're trying to say lightning crutch,
which is a term I guess, like you get this
really sharp pain that's supposed to like go up your thing. Yeah,
but I haven't gotten that.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
But I'm just really sore.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
If you have red hair, so I'm told.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, I was like, whoops, people would have that. So, yeah,
I don't feel sexy. I don't feel like it's different
for me.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
My friend said their dreams were very oddly sexual, but
like weird people Like my straight friend was like, I
had like a lesbian three s dream with like Miley
Cyrus and someone else. And she's actually had a quote
wet dream about Joey Tribiani from friends. Someone else said they, yeah,
it's just like I think you have. Like, yeah, I
guess some do get really horny.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Interesting, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
If I don't know, there might be a certain point
where I might it might get in my heart a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, but not early on. I don't think. Maybe when
you could maybe when we start to see it up
and I.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Don't know the story. So everybody's horny here is that
the message?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's like it, And certainly I guess Ruki is horny.
We know, we understand, we understand why now everything you
could be like, hey man, that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Maybe that explains what's coming out now because.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
A strong wind, that's just normal every day stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And then we know you're horning because you I mean,
the waiting by the phone really got you going. We
really learned about you to day, so you're a toe
sucking person.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I don't see.
Speaker 9 (04:02):
Anything is wrong with a nice surprise, Like it's just
you just got to try it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's just not it's not bad.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
Like I would never not call somebody back because they
sucked my toes, Like what, But.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Is that like a standard move for big tim Like
is that like an everyday move?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
No? Not every day?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
And does he want his toes suck too?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
No?
Speaker 9 (04:20):
No, no, it's so you wouldn't you wouldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And I've seen this discussed on on the internet and stuff.
But it's so funny that like people and I couldn't
say this on the air because they couldn't say it
on the air, but it's funny how people will be like,
oh my god, you put the you put someone's toe
in your mouth. It's like I put your entire vagina
in my mouth, like I put your asshole. But I'm
just saying, like you want to talk about intrusive, My
tongue was in your asshole, Like I mean.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Like if we won't eat it on a fork that
like drops on the ground, I will eat.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Ass That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, people are like, oh my god, a toe it's like, dude,
I've had way worse in my mouth.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I can assure you of that.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Right is not worse.
Speaker 10 (05:04):
It's very nice.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, but it's still it's not a toe. It's
it's essentially internal. You're essentially inside someone. A toe is
like beautiful. Trust me, you're talking to the guy who
loves to do that. I'm just saying, you know, I'm like,
oh my god, a toe. But then I'll go put
my mouth other places.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
And now he's a germophobe.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
So nobody else has No one's ever asked me to that.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I've had my toes suck.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, I haven't met toes.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
It was shocking, it was alarming.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, it hits you out off guard.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was like, then, it's like, right, I feel like
you get kicked in the face, Like you're at the
fucking the getting a pedicure when they try to tip
your when they try to scrub your feet.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
I would just I would also worry, like as the
person receiving, or I did when it happened, like I
was walking around barefoot, like I hope they taste good,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I don't think they care.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I want to be I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, I can't believe.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I mean, I done a lot worse, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, well saying that's what I mean. That's my point
is I'm not judging it. It's just I don't know.
I don't It doesn't do anything for me, okay.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Every time?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
No, but he I mean yeah, yeah, if you wanted to, yeah,
it's not that. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Does it feel good like to you?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, it's just something different.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
You know what makes sense?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
What is the strangest thing, Kiki, that you've been asked
to do by someone else? You don't have to specify
which partner.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
To be honest, nothing, Like, I've never had anything that
I feel is strange. Like I'm we have played with
handcuffs before with an X because I tried that big
tim he wasn't down.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But yeah, like yeah I don't. So that's probably the
only thing.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I mean, no one has to do this, but go
around the room, like, what would you say is this?
And by the way, by strange, I realize there are
people listening going, well, that's not strange, but I just
mean out of the ordinary, Like if if you were
to put like just normal sex into this bucket here
or this envelope. You know, I think for some people
you go outside the circle, it start to get a
little weird. For example, I had and I've told the
story before, but I had a girl who I never
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ever would have expected, a very buttoned up, like a
counting type girl asked me to pee on her.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
And I remember this.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I have pe fright as it is, so there's no
and I know it's like it's like a subservience thing
or it's a dominant thing or whatever. And I just
I couldn't do it because I don't know. I don't
like my own bodily functions. So I'm really not I
don't know. And she's like, we'll get in the shower,
we'll do this, and I'm like, no, we're not, We're not.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Actually going to do that. No, bed like.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Bed, No, I was in the shower and then but
then the funny thing is a couple of years later
I saw her out with another guy. I think she
might be married to him now, and I'm like, oh, well,
he pisses on her. I mean, because it was it
was a deal breaker. I'm like, I can't, I'm not
going to do it, and she's like, well, I really
like it. And I'm like, well, I'm not going to
do it. So that was kind of that Jason.
Speaker 10 (07:56):
Someone asked me once to put one of those metal
rings around, like you're junk. Have you ever seen that
cor Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I thought they were supposed to be it's.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
One of those.
Speaker 10 (08:06):
Yeah, it scares me.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It doesn't.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
It's not like it doesn't there. It was a vibrating
see ring.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Like I've seen those.
Speaker 10 (08:14):
No, but this was just like the.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Metal aspect of a concerns yea at.
Speaker 10 (08:17):
Least longer, but like I it weirded me out, like
I don't want like anything clamping down there.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
And a fun story his mom found the rapper when
he was moving.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah. I think I've told you guys this story before,
probably recently. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know, I have only ten stories. I only tell
the same ten stories. But when I moved here, it
was so super quick that it happened like in ten days.
And it was over the holidays too, so I wasn't
even here. I wasn't. I wasn't in Charlotte. Like they're like, hey,
sign this contract, You're coming January first. I'm like, well shit,
I'm going home for Christmas. They're like, don't worry. We'll
we'll pay for everything, like we'll send people to your
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house and put your car and we'll pack everything. Everything
goes on the truck and like, don't worry about it.
When you get Chicago, you shit'll be there, which isn't
quite how it happened, but nonetheless, they did go in
and they did pack everything. I was not there for
any of that. And then what I didn't realize was
I got the unpacking service too, which is nice, and
that they take the boxes away. But what I didn't
realize is they just literally take everything out of every
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box and just put it wherever and then it's out
and then you put it away, and in retrospect, it's
like I guess I would have rather it has stayed
in boxes until I was ready to go box by
box because to me and like my compartmentalized mind, it
was my OCD mind. Like anyway, so my mom and
my sister flew in because they met the moving truck
on like a Thursday while I was at work and
(09:39):
to help the process, let the movers in and like
start the process for me. And I get back and
there's like this one box sitting in the kitchen and
my sister's going through it, and I'm like, what the
hell is that. My Mom's like, I guess those are
some souvenirs from some guests you've had over the years,
and it was it was a bunch of like women stuff.
It was like sunglasses, a pearl necklace, hair ties, like
(10:03):
just a bunch of several pair of sunglasses. Is that
My sister like takes out some Gucci sunglasses and he goes,
can I have these?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I'm like, take them. I don't know who like taking.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
No one ever came back lost and found to get them, really,
And then there was one single joint in there too,
in that same box, because I guess they found a
single joint in yeah, right. But it just made me
realize that maybe in the future, if I got forbid,
I ever have to move, I'll handle it myself.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Certain things, certain things I will say someone I'm usually
like down for whatever, but I will say a guy
slapped me across the face one time, and I didn't
like that, Like, yeah, I know, okay, I know a
lot of people like it. I like like getting spanked,
I like do anything to the rest of my body.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
But that was just like a really dirty.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Feeling fitting thing is one that I love.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
See, I know you do, and a lot of people do.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You've mentioned it a time or two, but only if
I like am like in love with someone that's in
their space.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Like that's where shit gets weird for me.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Kayln is like, I guess I'm not gonna say I'm vanilla,
but I guess I'm like, I'm goal oriented, like I
want to do activities. I tend to be like focused
on I'm a pleaser, so I'm trying to be focused
on this stuff, like getting right to the point of
what I think you're going to like. And I don't
tend to venture too far outside of like relatively normal stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
But it's not that I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It's that like I don't know how to know for
sure early on if you want me to do that
to the point about being slapped, Like trust me, I've
had people who love getting their hair pulled or love
getting choked, and then I've gone to do that move
on other people and they're like, what are you doing?
And there's only kind of one way to find out
certain things unless you want to sit down and have
a conversation about it, which is sexy, which is not sexy.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I got to feel it out.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
You got to just start things slow. I mean like
you just have to like grab her hair and slowly start.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And see, which is what I did. I mean I
didn't like take out a lock or two, you.
Speaker 8 (11:55):
Know, like, yeah, you just gotta I just like want
men to like go off vibes, like just lightly try.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Something a vibe.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You want me to spin your mouth exactly?
Speaker 6 (12:07):
You want to spend in.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
His No, you said you like spit. When you say that,
you want to just spit on you or like in
your mouth or like.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Okay, so Jason wants it on him.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I think that's I don't want that, okay. I I
just have had it done like with just one guy
and I liked it, and he just said open your mouth.
And so if I didn't want it, I wouldn't open
my mouth, and so I did and he did.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
And I like the Fellers or whoever figure out how
to feel the vibe. I think you just gotta do stuff.
I'd be just doing stuff. And if you say no,
I'm like okay, but like if that then like.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I don't know, but spitting in someone's mouth.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
And also like is it like you.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Grab a girl's face and say open your mouth and
she doesn't want that.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
That's the time you'll know I want to go home.
If you know she doesn't want her.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Hair pulled, you'll know because you'll and start lightly pulling
and she won't be like you know.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I think I think reading the room is okay.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Somebody's going on with me lately, but like I'm not
reading that, Like the vibes are just off. I don't
know if I need to get like my my junk
staged or something like it's just weird shitage. Ever since
I was sort of talking to somebody and for a
while and then that ended, I feel like I must
be projecting something weird. But I just can't get a
read on like what people are wanting and what they're
after right now. I don't know, like my it's like my,
I'm not calibrated properly.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
It is what you put out there.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
And I also think it's right now how you feel
about yourself, Like I think that you should be more
confident than you are right now, and so I think
you're just going through something. But I do think like
you need you need to go through this and just
feel it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
People are acting weird I went out with this one
girl a couple times recently.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
People are acting and she.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Like she made it a point to be like I
want you to treat me like not good basically like
in bad, like I want to be disrespected or whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And then I'm like all right, And then I.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Mean I could do that, sure, And then.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It got the communication got kind of weird after the fact,
and then like I don't know. But then the other
day I'm texting with her and she's like, I'm on
my way to church, I'll pray for you, and she
was doing all this like weird religious pious shit, and
I'm like, what is going on.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like this ship you wanted.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Look, I'm not judging anybody whatever, but like she was
doing like literally, I was almost like I thought maybe
it was a joke or like somebody else was fucking
with me or something, because it was like, I don't
know if I can see you anymore, Like I'm you know,
I'm going to church to pray for my sins and
you should too. It was this whole pious it was like,
and it really was elitist. Also, we're the same religion,
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she and I but I cannot stand I don't know
what was going on, but I cannot stand it when
people stand on religion like somehow they're superior to you
because they because they go to church or believe they
have a more intimate connection with God or whatever. It's like,
that's the entire that's that's contradictory to the whole purpose.
The whole purpose is you are not better.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Than me, right, you have to know that's her own shit,
but it which is so weird.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I'm like, you want you wanted me to disrespect you,
and now like she feels guilty about it, and.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now you're like telling me you're going to church and
praying for me and all this weird shit, Like what
are you?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
No, I'm good things. She's a weird Yeah, yeah, please
don't pray for me.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm so triggered by people who use religion as some
form of power trip because I have had it happen
to me a couple in a couple of different dynamics
where it's like I'm less than because you've got a
Bible on your desk and because you can recite Bible verses,
and you know what the interesting part is in one
of those two cases, it was the person who was
projecting this stuff onto me was one of the worst
human beings. Yes, but I ever know, but truly one
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of the worst human beings. A liar, a cheat, deceptive, gaslighting,
I mean, just a really bad person. And yet the
whole time it's like, but you don't know Jesus, and
I'm going I don't think you do either, bro like you.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
It's it's so weird.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
The cockiness that it takes to think that your chosen
religion and your relationship with God is the right one
for someone else, and that you have all the answers
and you know what's right is concerning, like you should
have your own relationship with your own religion, your own God,
whatever you want to believe in. But thinking your way
is the right way is so gross.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Like grow.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I also know some people who for whom it's a
power thing, Like I know some people who have become
members of clergy in one way or another, like I happen.
I know someone very well who is a Catholic deacon.
This is a man who's been divorced I think four times. Oh,
I think maybe more than that. And again, everyone has
an opportunity an opportunity to redeem themselves. But I have
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a very difficult time believing that fundamentally anything changed other
than you now can wear a collar and you somehow
have now become an authority. Like you now all of
a sudden, because of what that represents, are able to
advise other people on how to live. I'm like, dude,
you paid for that, Like you buy that. I think
in the Catholic Church that there are churches that will
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make you a deacon because you don't have you can
be married.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I don't know you did all this, yeah, I like.
Speaker 10 (17:04):
You have to go through the training. Well yeah, but
you know, and yeah, you could be married, you could be.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Divorced, But like, who gets to decide that you're now
all of a sudden you are going to tell me?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
But like what about you?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And by the way, I think some of the more
valuable advice you can get from people are people who
have redeemed themselves. I just don't necessarily know if people
are redeemed or they just now feel this power because
because if you're a member of organized religion, you are
to respect clergy.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
But like who made you God?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know what I mean? It's a very confusing thing
for me. It's why I have a difficult time with
organized religion.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
Yes, everybody should just have their own relationship with whoever
they believe in.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's like the story I told you maybe a year
or two ago about a guy who worked with who
wouldn't be my friend because because I wouldn't go to
church with him it made me uncomfortable. He was my friend,
he was my coworker, and church was very important to him,
and this particular church was very important to him. I
didn't really identify with with that. It was I don't know,
I didn't feel and I didn't want to go. And
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basically he was like, well, then he basically wrote me
off as a friend because I wouldn't go with him.
And then maybe a year or so ago, he writes
me a note telling me that he's proud of me,
that I appear to have made something of myself. And
I'm like, this isn't bullshit I'm talking about, Like this
is what I mean. Like, because you go to church
and you you have a relationship with God that's unique
to you, somehow, now you're able to tell other people
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that they appear in your mind like they've done something
good with their lives like that's not up to you,
Like that's you're not God.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Yeah it was. I opened up to someone one time
about like I was struggling with my mental health and
they they advised me to get a prayer app and
I was just like, fuck, I.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Need like medication.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Oh when they started using the church man and a
lot of people, I think they mean, well, but but
that's like if.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
You if you say, like you for you, maybe.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Have you considered this? And I'd like to invite you?
That's one thing. But then if someone says I'm not
comfortable with that, then that doesn't have to change the
nature of the friendship fundamentally. Like you just you offered
it because it's helped you. I mean, look, that's like
me saying I take vitamin D every day. Have you
guys considered that and you're like, I don't know, maybe
i'll take vitamin D or maybe I won't.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I'm like, well you won't take it for you? Yeah,
I hate you.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I mean it's like that's how I choose to live,
and if you don't want to live that way, you
don't have to. I can still be your friend. I
don't know, It's just it's very and I know you
go to church a lot in Kiki. I know it's
an important part of your life, and you know, I
don't know. It's Uh, she.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Helps the kids at church, right.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Yeah, you run the tech and you do all that
I do.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yes, when I met church, I've been missing a little
bit lately.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But yeah, do you feel obligated or do you feel
like it's actually a calling for you to go there
and do that?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
For there's like ups and down, so like sometimes I'm like,
oh my god, I gotta go do this again. You
feel that obligation, but I see the way it has
helped transform me as a person and the way it's
helped transform my life. So then that's why I can
see you to go. So it keeps me grounded, it
keeps me humble. But again that's what works for me.
And so when like Kaitlyn just made a point of
(20:01):
like she was going through something and she was telling
somebody and they offered her a prayer. App Now I
understand they. I think they had good intentions. Yeah, and
it's not just so just because somebody tries to offer
you or invite you to what they believe in or
what has helped them. I don't want you guys to
feel offended by that, because it's like, I.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Don't think they meant any harm. It just didn't work
for you.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
Now, if they kept pressing you about it after you said,
you know, you weren't interested because you weren't doing yeah,
then that's what like.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Think sometimes people we just you take your own experiences.
That's the only thing we can live by. And I
just know how God has helped me in my life,
so I want to share that with other people who
may be struggling, you know what I'm saying, So maybe
you can help them in that way too, So don't
I don't want you to feel offended, and you are
entitled to feel however you want, but I don't want
you to. I think their intention may not have been
to offend you, but instead like, oh, maybe let me
(20:52):
share what helped me.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Yeah, there's like more detail, Like it was a specific
diagnosis of like a chemical and balance in my brain,
so like medication was required, Like I wish that God
praying would save it. I've tried, I had tried everything
up until that point, so like I think that's where
it turned me off. Also, like the person and the
way it was delivered. If you had done that to me,
I would have been appreciative. It's just it's just different
(21:15):
and everybody's going off their own experiences. Hey, this is
what worked for me, and I would never get offended
by that.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Know and and know an aa.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I think a lot they do talk about like God
or a source, and I think that helped a lot
of people too when it comes to like addiction. But
I think what triggers me a lot with like the
Kale situation is I think growing up, I've heard a
lot of like going to church or like praying things
off whatever, when it's like it's deeper than that, you
know what I mean. So sometimes I'm just like damn,
like you know, we know more now at this big age,
(21:43):
like let's let's be for real and know that, like
you know, therapy is important and like you know, there's
there's certain medication we can take or just do certain things, right.
I think prayer is a great place to start and
it might help like some people you're saying.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
There's statistics that show that, like religion helps people. And I,
by the way, do pray. I just don't feel the
need to advertise it. And I think a lot of
people would be shocked by that. But like I believe
in God, I pray in my own relationship. I just like,
don't need to share that with you.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
No, you don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
My nana was a Catholic, very very, very devoted, and
she believed in blind faith. And I remember I would
ask her all kinds of questions about me about Catholicism
that I just didn't understand, and the answer, for the
most part was it just is. It just is, and
it's like that. And that worked for her, and it
provided answers for her during very difficult times when she
(22:33):
was married for I think what over sixty years.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
You know, she had heard issues.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
My grandfather was very sick at cancer, and they got
through so much stuff in a very long life, and
I think there were times where she just when she
wanted answers and she didn't understand why. Then the Bible
and Catholicism gave her those answers. I think it's why
a lot of people do flock to religion, especially when
they're going through a hard time. Like scientology is another one,
for example, they have all the answers. If you subscribe,
(22:59):
they'll tell you everything. They'll say exactly what's going on
in their mind. And I think people really find comfort
in that and they love that. And I guess there
have been times where I've been really low and I've wondered,
why is this happening? Like why is it happening? Where's
the lesson? And I feel like that's the Catholicism that's
like rooted deep within the back of my mind because
I grew up with it was someone's watching over me,
(23:21):
someone's guiding me. Why is this happening? What did I
do to deserve it? The Catholic guilt comes in, you know,
what what can I do to adjust it? So I
guess in some ways, you know, fundamentally it can help
shape a direction. But at the same time, I don't
know that everybody has to see it the same way.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
No, I mean wars are fought over this.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, yes, and it's just because I don't go to
your church and subscribe to your pastor who were as easies.
And you know, you know what, I don't get me started.
It doesn't mean that my relationship is any less valuable
than yours. And by the way, if that works for you,
that's amazing. But the entire purpose of this is not
to judge me because I won't do what you do, right,
(24:03):
damn it.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Yeah, it's also hard for me when something really fucking
terrible happens, and a lot of that happens in this world.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
That's where people lose me.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
And when someone tells me that it like happens for
a reason, like the school shooting with my sister, you know,
like like God has a plan, I'm just like.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Oh, fuck off.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
There are a few things and most of them involve
kids where I don't understand the purpose. Yes, you know,
working with kids at Larie Children's for example, and like
going bedside me. A lot of these kids, a lot
of them don't survive. A lot of them do, but
some of them don't. And you I've yet to understand
what taking a child from a parent is teaching anyone. Now,
(24:41):
granted there must be a lesson, there's got to be
a reason this is life, I understand, but like that,
there are a few things that that just doesn't work
for me. For me, for me to say, well, God
has a plan, ah, what in the hell could that be? Right?
Speaker 8 (24:53):
And don't say that to someone when they're in like
the darkest time because they don't want to hear that
the plan was for that awful thing can happen.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Because that particular thing I have seen cause rifts and
shake ups in people's lives. I mean a lot of
those parents get divorced. Oh yeah, and they'll never be
the same. And this is just one example, and I'm
sure everybody listening has their own example of a thing
that they just in their mind like why why And
that one is particularly hard for me. But again, if
(25:21):
you whatever religion you believe in, there's probably an explanation
as to why that happens. And that's where that blind
faith comes in, where you have to be like, well,
you know, this is awful and I'm going through it,
but the reason it happened is because God has a
plan or what if insert whatever your belief is here,
And I guess that can provide people with a lot
of comfort. But I tend to be too analytical, and
(25:44):
I tend to I can't. The blind faith thing is
just so hard, and my Nana would just sit there
and go, it just is. It just is, like Christopher,
it just is, and it's like da.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I mean more, yeah, yeah, No, Honestly, I honestly lost
a lot of faith when after my mom passed away,
Like I I was just like why why would you,
like you know what I'm saying, if you believe in
something like and then you're yeah, right, and it's like
how can you how can I believe anymore? You know
what I'm saying, Like I've had conversations with you know,
(26:14):
me and him by ourselves, you know what I'm saying,
Like I cursed that man out, like it was.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Like it's like this, it's fucked up.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
But yeah, yeah, and again, I suppose religion, if you
talk to a pastor or a priest or somebody clergy
about it, they would they would give you something to
the effect of everything happens for a reason and there's
a plan, and he was supposed to learn something.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
And but again, how like how especially.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Like in the Filipino culture, like you you you literally
like pray every day, like every night everyone gets to
get I'm like for what Like like I was honestly
just sitting there like what is this for? Like it's
it's it's like my mom's it's already happened.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Like what are we praying for?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Like, like you know what I'm saying, She's gone like
you know, he took her away, and like why and
then you gotta sit there and prayer.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Day I was, It's like, fuck is bullshit?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
A lot of people, yeah, feel that way, get it.
I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And by the way, like there are people listening who
might be triggered by this conversation and they might have
the answers, and it's like, that's wonderful for you. I
think the whole point here is that everyone has their
own individual experience and their own struggles with it. And again,
you could listen and go, well, if you would just
subscribe to X y Z, then this wouldn't be so
hard for you and you wouldn't have to think of
these answers. That's not the way my brain works. My
brain works in such a way that I want I'm analytical,
(27:30):
I want answers. I overthink it. I need to understand why,
and again relegit, we'll give you those answers you don't have.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You may not agree with them, but if you buy in,
then there they are. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm like Rufio though I've seen some things happen and
some things have happened to me, and I'm just like
where where's the Okay, so there's a lesson, It's sure
there's a lesson, but this is the worst possible thing
that could happen.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
And why Yeah, you got fucking horrible ass people on
this planet.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
They're alive and living. And then my mom, who's the
fuck and do nothing wrong in our life? Is gone?
You know what I'm saying. It's hard to believe and
follow and trust and all that shit.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And then the Catholics in the room start to I
don't mean to be controversial here, but what happens to
me is then I start to say, what did I
do to deserve that? You know, It's like, well, because
Catholic guild, Well, I obviously am not living right if
these bad things are happening to me, so I need
to change. And I suppose maybe that's not a horrible
(28:28):
thing to every now and again assess, you know, the
choices that you're making and whatever else. But at the
same time, it's not necessarily helpful for me to then
believe that I did it, like it's my karma that
made a bad thing happen to someone else, or that
happened to me, you know what I mean? And I
don't know I don't know how helpful that is either,
I except for you know, and now that we're talking
(28:48):
about and I suppose every now and again to check
in with yourself and be like, hey, look, you know,
Catholic guilt is a real thing, and something bad happened,
and did I put something out there to make it happen?
And you know what choices am I making? And I
don't think, by the way, it has anything to do
with that. But no, I've had a few moments, especially lately,
where I've had to check in with myself and be like,
what am I doing?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I also don't want to believe in a higher power
that would punish you for being human and making a mistake,
Like that's not something that I want to subscribe to.
I do believe in karma, but I think intention is
really fucking important when you're talking about karma. And I
just don't want to believe that we're getting like punished
for doing something that we didn't mean to do that
was bad.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, and I certainly hope on a religious standpoint, again,
I only can really come from a standpoint of a
being a Catholic raised Catholic. But I certainly hope that
if I'm ever evaluated someday that it's not, you know,
item by item that is kind of the stuff of
all parts.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
It is You've got to just be a good person,
Like just try your best, Like that's what it's about.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
He's definitely gonna pull out that list, don't you.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Every job he saves, it's like check check.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Idea good heart, if I help out some kid with
cancer or like, he's like that for every dog. I
do believe that that checks went off of some shitty
thing I've done. I actually do believe that, Jason, you
probably had the most intimate relationship with it all, and
you've been very quiet. I won't force you into this conversation,
(30:12):
but your parents wanted you to do all these things
in the church growing up.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
Oh yeah, I mean I had to do it, and
I think getting out of that, I mean, I went
to Catholic school for eighteen years. Like it was, I
was religion all day, every day for eighteen years.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Do you feel in some ways like it delayed you
being who you are because you were afraid to sort
of be more.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
I think it's a combination of religion and I mean,
just being gay in high school is just never easy
for anybody. But I mean, looking back at it now,
it's very much like, Okay, I didn't meet a lot
of different types of people until I got out of
that part of my life, right, So, like I didn't
realize that there were different beliefs in different because everyone
(30:58):
I grew up with and was surrounded with my whole life.
That's why I honestly say, and this is probably a
controversial take too, I would never do Catholic school if
I had kids.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
I think it's a waste of money.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
Very it shelters.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
And I don't blame my parents because they went to
public school and very very much where of the belief
of this will prepare you for college and this will
like get you farther ahead in life. I know what
you're dad with someone, yeah, someone that like lived and
went through it. I would never do that to my kid,
just because it's I feel like I was sheltered.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
From a lot well, and I don't I don't mean
to make excuses for the amount of ignorance that is
out there, and I don't mean to pick on any
one particular group because I think ignorance comes from all angles.
But I will say this much my parents. I grew
up in a an affluent neighborhood. My parents worked there.
They they grew up in a relatively affluent neighborhood, but
they worked to provide more than they had. They sent
me to the best school in town. They sent me
(31:49):
to the best college I could get into. And I
hate I have to say it was all white people.
I was literally I did not know a black person
until halfway through college, like because there weren't any. I
think there's one Hispanic kid that I grew up with.
But like, my point is right, No, my point is though,
(32:10):
I can see why people their views can be the
way they are, because like in my case, I went
from Scottsdale to Highland Park, Dallas, and I probably could
have married somebody from there and then lived there and
never left the bubble of people who are just like me.
And I think what happened was I got a radio
job in college, thank god, and I was immediately out
(32:32):
of that circle. And I was around people from all
different walks. I mean, they were people who were way
more successful than me, way less successful, who came from more,
who came from less. And I feel like that really
shaped my viewpoint and I changed quickly. Yes, and you
became black, well I did, Yeah, I became I became myself.
I didn't know any so I made myself.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I mean, but like, honestly, I don't know that a
lot of people, whether you come from this area or
this area or this area of the spectrum, I feel
like people need to try a lot hard and need
to be a lot more mindful of the fact that
they don't know what they don't know. Yes, and a
lot of people don't know they don't I don't know.
You make associations. All white people are this way, all
(33:13):
black people are this way. Well, how many how much
time have you spent with people who were different from you?
And the answer for a lot of people is not much,
you know what I mean. It's like because it's because
you grow up in this neighborhood and and and so
you surround yourself with these people, and then you grow
up with these people, and you follow in the footsteps
of these people. And it's like, I don't think very
many people are out there trying very hard to learn
about other people's viewpoints. And that's one blessing of this
(33:36):
job is that we hear from people every day who
are different. We hear from people, we meet people all
the time, all different walks of life, because it's just
part of it, because we serve everybody. But you can
see it on the text. You can see it on
the text. These people will write like these things that
are like you, you clearly are have no idea what
you're talking about? Like you, you know what I mean?
Like that is the viewpoint of somebody who's never been there.
(33:58):
And I think it's I think we see a lot
of it in politics, to say voting, you know, everyone's
got an opinion of It's like when I hear people
talk about geopolitics, I'm like, do you even you do you?
Have you made any effort to even understand what you're
talking about? Or are you regurgitating points that you saw
on TV? Oh yeah, or that you read on the
(34:18):
website from the news network that you trust buzzy you know,
And it's like, I don't know, travel the world a
little bit, and I know that everybody gets to do that,
but like, if you have the opportunity, why don't you
go to some of these places or like meet some
people that are different, really different than you and have
these conversations. And it's kind of amazing how people who
think that they're so different when you come together very
(34:40):
different people tend to have very similar viewpoints about very
basic things. But instead we just assume that everyone's you know,
that no one else can no one else knows what
we know, and no one else can live like we have,
and no one else, you know, there are no other
ways to look at things in the way that we
were raised to look at them. And I feel like
that's kind of where why we are where we are.
And now we'll fly that with social media and everything else.
(35:02):
Now you can spew your your bias bullshit. Yes you know.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
And I love watching like little kids when you just
see them play and there's just none of that there yet.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Yes, and you don't.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
It's just so beautiful and like it really is up
to you know, the parents and the world to like
it influences you, whether good or bad. I watched it
happen a lot in college, Like I got to college,
and I saw so many people be like ignorant about
shit because of how they grew up, And I was
just so grateful that I wanted to like a diverse
high school. But you know, you see, everyone's a product
(35:31):
of their environment, and certainly their parents believes.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Well, it's like Polly, my niece, she's turning three this month,
and my sister works at a very exclusive, very boozy school,
and everybody has money. You have to have money, you
have to be smart. And the interesting thing is she's
in like a like kind of a pre preschool or
a preschool kind of thing, like a pre kindergarten. Yeah,
and I'm thinking to my sister. I'm talking to her,
and I'm like, you know, I don't know, this is
(35:54):
a very niche environment. But what I didn't realize is
that program is only for imployees kids. Oh and so
there's a lot of diversity, so Polly's not necessarily surrounded
by there are people who are different than she, but
like I hate to say it, these are real folks.
These are the kids of real people. Because you know,
I don't know so and so's rich kids, daughter goes there,
(36:16):
and so and so everyone's got you know, millions of dollars,
and everybody grew up this kind of way. And I'm
something like, ah, man, you know, I kind of grew
up like that. Amanda kind of grew up like that. Like,
I don't know, is there benefits to maybe Polly, you know,
experiencing more diversity and she is, because those aren't the
rich kids, those aren't the kids that look just like Polly.
Those aren't the kids that grew up dislike her. She's
(36:37):
in Spanish, right, yeah, and so your play. She doesn't
know the difference.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
It's so sweet to what it is.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
She has no idea how different the people around her
are necessarily or what she has that they don't or whatever,
because they're kind of all equal.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
There's this video online of this little kid being shown
like pictures of like different you know, races or whatever,
and like they ask the little kid, like, what do
you see about this picture?
Speaker 6 (36:58):
And the little kid's just like he's wearing blush shorts.
Like it's just it's very.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Pure and beautiful and I hate when I see it
go away.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
But so it's got to be a struggle.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Like I have friends of mine like, oh, you know,
I got to send my kid to this school and
it's fifty grand a year and this and that, and
I know what they're thinking. It's I want to provide
my kid with the very best of everything. But sometimes
I wonder is the very best actually the very best,
like from a you know, lifelong perspective.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I think about that often.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, to be completely honest, because I don't I'm gonna
be for real, I don't want my kids to go
where I went, Like it's just she's just not going
to do that. But then I'm like, well, what are
the options then? Exactly what you're saying, It's like do
I do that and do a disservice to her? Like
I don't want her to go to Catholic school and
be sheltered and not know anything to be street smart,
like you know what I mean, I know anything.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
It's like I don't know. I think what this lots
like an internal struggle?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
So you wouldn't want her to go.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Or I went absolutely no, no, no, And why is that?
I don't like the public school system and I'm a
product of it. I don't like it right now to
be completely transparent and especially like my high school no,
like I just wouldn't like I'm not Shenana had a
great high school experience.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
But then it's like I.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Don't nowhere else to send her, you know, because it
would be like, is she gonna go to the bougie
school can't even afford the fucking boogie school, and any
other question.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, I know we've made a lot of like generalizations
here too, but not every kid that goes to a
bougie school has been. Not every kid that goes to it,
you know, inner city school has been. But I would
agree though that, like, I don't know. I have a
great friend whose kid goes to a very prominent boogie
school in town, and and they're successful, relatively wealthy people,
(38:35):
And she told me the other day that this kid
is the only kid in the ten kids in the
class that doesn't whose parents don't own a private jet.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
What you know.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
And it's like, no, I mean, and I'm not saying
that these parents are these kids are shitty, No, I'm sorry,
But if every vacation you go on is on a
private jet and you've never walked through the real terminal
and flown Southwest Airlines before, and I'm different that, I
think it's very hard, even if you have the best intentions,
of course, to balance out, you know, I don't know,
(39:05):
I would imagine that's a struggle. But again, these are
people who are like I want my kid to have
the very best that money can buy, but then you
have to assess whether that is actually the very best.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
You want, better than what you had. And that's kind
of where I'm at, Like I don't want my daughter
to fall into like just certain things that like I've
seen in my high school, I don't don't want that.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And then there's a whole set of different problems right
the kids, Like there were things I didn't see an experience,
but there are things I did see an experience like
absent tea parents and a shitload of expendable income and
drugs and and suicide. I mean, and I'm not saying
these things don't happen everywhere, but like it's just a
whole new set of problems. But here you are here here,
(39:45):
we are supposedly insulated from that because well, everybody has
money and everyone's smart, so nothing bad is going to happen.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Oh no, really bad stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
It happens everywhere, That's what I'm saying exactly. So it's
it's an interesting battle.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Well, we went from a fitting to sucking.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
To spinning in mouth, regions.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
On people to religion to schools. Yes, so we are
in the world. Want to go home thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
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podcasts to probably one of our better ones. But people
will still like the City one anyway, so if you're
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yes, yes, I've heard supposedly.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Why did they say it's the best for you, o people?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
They say, for for the man's I'm assuming refere you
can chime in on this. This is true or not,
but basically that it's It's just it just feels better.
I guess things are more more. I hate the word moist,
But is that true?
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Yeah? Like fluffy?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Yeah, fluffy sauce.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I don't know. Yeah, really is that true? Ref you?
Speaker 7 (00:53):
I couldn't tell you. I've never had uh no, whit
what wait?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So and I'm hold on, let's let's just safe place.
So Jess gets pregnant, you guys just don't.
Speaker 7 (01:03):
Yeah, it's been like almost four four and a half months.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Oh wait really is no no, no judgment, no.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Judge, Like it's it's I think I think it's me,
Like it's weird for me.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Okay, I'm not men feel like that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
She's got to be like at least like wanting to
write yea with you if you were down, maybe you
would And no judgment.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
For me, but like yeah, maybe she did.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
All doesn't it help out to like going into labor?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It can? It can? It can?
Speaker 8 (01:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Sort of like hey, I'm just forty weeks and she's
like we gotta it can.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Get it moving. She's getting it. That's right, that's right,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I did ask a got to collegist. I went on
a couple of days with like essentially, are you ejaculating
on the baby's head?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And sort of.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yike, I don't hear that.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I mean it's sort of like.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Not exactly but kind of, I mean, like where does
it go like this, Yeah, there's a barrier, but like
it's not it's sort of.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Sort of but if you're not dilated, right.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't look, I don't know. We laughed about it.
It's not like a real thing. I'm not giving medical
advice here. I just it's like I can see why.
I can see why that would be a weird thing
to get over.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Especially if you're packing like Drake. You know what I'm saying,
give me well.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
That baby that would have a dent.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Hey, the doctor says, that's it's cool safe. I'm gonna try.
But it's not the same for me. I feel funny
if anything.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, you feel funny because you just don't feel sexy
or what you don't feel sexy?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I have like pains.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I know this thing called I call it firecrotch.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
It it's called lightning.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I texted my friend Nikki was like, what does firecrotch
feel like? And she's like, you're trying to say lightning crutch,
which is a term I guess, like you get this
really sharp pain that's supposed to like go up your thing. Yeah,
but I haven't gotten that.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
But I'm just really sore.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
If you have red hair, so I'm told.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, I was like, whoops, people would have that. So, yeah,
I don't feel sexy. I don't feel like it's different
for me.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
My friend said their dreams were very oddly sexual, but
like weird people Like my straight friend was like, I
had like a lesbian three s dream with like Miley
Cyrus and someone else. And she's actually had a quote
wet dream about Joey Tribiani from friends. Someone else said they, yeah,
it's just like I think you have. Like, yeah, I
guess some do get really horny.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Interesting, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
If I don't know, there might be a certain point
where I might it might get in my heart a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, but not early on. I don't think. Maybe when
you could maybe when we start to see it up
and I.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Don't know the story. So everybody's horny here is that
the message?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's like it, And certainly I guess Ruki is horny.
We know, we understand, we understand why now everything you
could be like, hey man, that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Maybe that explains what's coming out now because.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
A strong wind, that's just normal every day stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And then we know you're horning because you I mean,
the waiting by the phone really got you going. We
really learned about you to day, so you're a toe
sucking person.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I don't see.
Speaker 9 (04:02):
Anything is wrong with a nice surprise, Like it's just
you just got to try it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's just not it's not bad.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
Like I would never not call somebody back because they
sucked my toes, Like what, But.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Is that like a standard move for big tim Like
is that like an everyday move?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
No? Not every day?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
And does he want his toes suck too?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
No?
Speaker 9 (04:20):
No, no, it's so you wouldn't you wouldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And I've seen this discussed on on the internet and stuff.
But it's so funny that like people and I couldn't
say this on the air because they couldn't say it
on the air, but it's funny how people will be like,
oh my god, you put the you put someone's toe
in your mouth. It's like I put your entire vagina
in my mouth, like I put your asshole. But I'm
just saying, like you want to talk about intrusive, My
tongue was in your asshole, Like I mean.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Like if we won't eat it on a fork that
like drops on the ground, I will eat.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Ass That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, people are like, oh my god, a toe it's like, dude,
I've had way worse in my mouth.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I can assure you of that.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Right is not worse.
Speaker 10 (05:04):
It's very nice.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, but it's still it's not a toe. It's
it's essentially internal. You're essentially inside someone. A toe is
like beautiful. Trust me, you're talking to the guy who
loves to do that. I'm just saying, you know, I'm like,
oh my god, a toe. But then I'll go put
my mouth other places.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
And now he's a germophobe.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
So nobody else has No one's ever asked me to that.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I've had my toes suck.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, I haven't met toes.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
It was shocking, it was alarming.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, it hits you out off guard.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was like, then, it's like, right, I feel like
you get kicked in the face, Like you're at the
fucking the getting a pedicure when they try to tip
your when they try to scrub your feet.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
I would just I would also worry, like as the
person receiving, or I did when it happened, like I
was walking around barefoot, like I hope they taste good,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I don't think they care.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I want to be I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, I can't believe.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I mean, I done a lot worse, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, well saying that's what I mean. That's my point
is I'm not judging it. It's just I don't know.
I don't It doesn't do anything for me, okay.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Every time?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
No, but he I mean yeah, yeah, if you wanted to, yeah,
it's not that. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Does it feel good like to you?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, it's just something different.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
You know what makes sense?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
What is the strangest thing, Kiki, that you've been asked
to do by someone else? You don't have to specify
which partner.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
To be honest, nothing, Like, I've never had anything that
I feel is strange. Like I'm we have played with
handcuffs before with an X because I tried that big
tim he wasn't down.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But yeah, like yeah I don't. So that's probably the
only thing.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I mean, no one has to do this, but go
around the room, like, what would you say is this?
And by the way, by strange, I realize there are
people listening going, well, that's not strange, but I just
mean out of the ordinary, Like if if you were
to put like just normal sex into this bucket here
or this envelope. You know, I think for some people
you go outside the circle, it start to get a
little weird. For example, I had and I've told the
story before, but I had a girl who I never
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ever would have expected, a very buttoned up, like a
counting type girl asked me to pee on her.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
And I remember this.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I have pe fright as it is, so there's no
and I know it's like it's like a subservience thing
or it's a dominant thing or whatever. And I just
I couldn't do it because I don't know. I don't
like my own bodily functions. So I'm really not I
don't know. And she's like, we'll get in the shower,
we'll do this, and I'm like, no, we're not, We're not.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Actually going to do that. No, bed like.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Bed, No, I was in the shower and then but
then the funny thing is a couple of years later
I saw her out with another guy. I think she
might be married to him now, and I'm like, oh, well,
he pisses on her. I mean, because it was it
was a deal breaker. I'm like, I can't, I'm not
going to do it, and she's like, well, I really
like it. And I'm like, well, I'm not going to
do it. So that was kind of that Jason.
Speaker 10 (07:56):
Someone asked me once to put one of those metal
rings around, like you're junk. Have you ever seen that
cor Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I thought they were supposed to be it's.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
One of those.
Speaker 10 (08:06):
Yeah, it scares me.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It doesn't.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
It's not like it doesn't there. It was a vibrating
see ring.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Like I've seen those.
Speaker 10 (08:14):
No, but this was just like the.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Metal aspect of a concerns yea at.
Speaker 10 (08:17):
Least longer, but like I it weirded me out, like
I don't want like anything clamping down there.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
And a fun story his mom found the rapper when
he was moving.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah. I think I've told you guys this story before,
probably recently. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know, I have only ten stories. I only tell
the same ten stories. But when I moved here, it
was so super quick that it happened like in ten days.
And it was over the holidays too, so I wasn't
even here. I wasn't. I wasn't in Charlotte. Like they're like, hey,
sign this contract, You're coming January first. I'm like, well shit,
I'm going home for Christmas. They're like, don't worry. We'll
we'll pay for everything, like we'll send people to your
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house and put your car and we'll pack everything. Everything
goes on the truck and like, don't worry about it.
When you get Chicago, you shit'll be there, which isn't
quite how it happened, but nonetheless, they did go in
and they did pack everything. I was not there for
any of that. And then what I didn't realize was
I got the unpacking service too, which is nice, and
that they take the boxes away. But what I didn't
realize is they just literally take everything out of every
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box and just put it wherever and then it's out
and then you put it away, and in retrospect, it's
like I guess I would have rather it has stayed
in boxes until I was ready to go box by
box because to me and like my compartmentalized mind, it
was my OCD mind. Like anyway, so my mom and
my sister flew in because they met the moving truck
on like a Thursday while I was at work and
(09:39):
to help the process, let the movers in and like
start the process for me. And I get back and
there's like this one box sitting in the kitchen and
my sister's going through it, and I'm like, what the
hell is that. My Mom's like, I guess those are
some souvenirs from some guests you've had over the years,
and it was it was a bunch of like women stuff.
It was like sunglasses, a pearl necklace, hair ties, like
(10:03):
just a bunch of several pair of sunglasses. Is that
My sister like takes out some Gucci sunglasses and he goes,
can I have these?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I'm like, take them. I don't know who like taking.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
No one ever came back lost and found to get them, really,
And then there was one single joint in there too,
in that same box, because I guess they found a
single joint in yeah, right. But it just made me
realize that maybe in the future, if I got forbid,
I ever have to move, I'll handle it myself.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Certain things, certain things I will say someone I'm usually
like down for whatever, but I will say a guy
slapped me across the face one time, and I didn't
like that, Like, yeah, I know, okay, I know a
lot of people like it. I like like getting spanked,
I like do anything to the rest of my body.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
But that was just like a really dirty.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Feeling fitting thing is one that I love.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
See, I know you do, and a lot of people do.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You've mentioned it a time or two, but only if
I like am like in love with someone that's in
their space.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Like that's where shit gets weird for me.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Kayln is like, I guess I'm not gonna say I'm vanilla,
but I guess I'm like, I'm goal oriented, like I
want to do activities. I tend to be like focused
on I'm a pleaser, so I'm trying to be focused
on this stuff, like getting right to the point of
what I think you're going to like. And I don't
tend to venture too far outside of like relatively normal stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
But it's not that I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It's that like I don't know how to know for
sure early on if you want me to do that
to the point about being slapped, Like trust me, I've
had people who love getting their hair pulled or love
getting choked, and then I've gone to do that move
on other people and they're like, what are you doing?
And there's only kind of one way to find out
certain things unless you want to sit down and have
a conversation about it, which is sexy, which is not sexy.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I got to feel it out.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
You got to just start things slow. I mean like
you just have to like grab her hair and slowly start.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And see, which is what I did. I mean I
didn't like take out a lock or two, you.
Speaker 8 (11:55):
Know, like, yeah, you just gotta I just like want
men to like go off vibes, like just lightly try.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Something a vibe.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You want me to spin your mouth exactly?
Speaker 6 (12:07):
You want to spend in.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
His No, you said you like spit. When you say that,
you want to just spit on you or like in
your mouth or like.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Okay, so Jason wants it on him.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I think that's I don't want that, okay. I I
just have had it done like with just one guy
and I liked it, and he just said open your mouth.
And so if I didn't want it, I wouldn't open
my mouth, and so I did and he did.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
And I like the Fellers or whoever figure out how
to feel the vibe. I think you just gotta do stuff.
I'd be just doing stuff. And if you say no,
I'm like okay, but like if that then like.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I don't know, but spitting in someone's mouth.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
And also like is it like you.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Grab a girl's face and say open your mouth and
she doesn't want that.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
That's the time you'll know I want to go home.
If you know she doesn't want her.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Hair pulled, you'll know because you'll and start lightly pulling
and she won't be like you know.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I think I think reading the room is okay.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Somebody's going on with me lately, but like I'm not
reading that, Like the vibes are just off. I don't
know if I need to get like my my junk
staged or something like it's just weird shitage. Ever since
I was sort of talking to somebody and for a
while and then that ended, I feel like I must
be projecting something weird. But I just can't get a
read on like what people are wanting and what they're
after right now. I don't know, like my it's like my,
I'm not calibrated properly.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
It is what you put out there.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
And I also think it's right now how you feel
about yourself, Like I think that you should be more
confident than you are right now, and so I think
you're just going through something. But I do think like
you need you need to go through this and just
feel it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
People are acting weird I went out with this one
girl a couple times recently.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
People are acting and she.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Like she made it a point to be like I
want you to treat me like not good basically like
in bad, like I want to be disrespected or whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And then I'm like all right, And then I.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Mean I could do that, sure, And then.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It got the communication got kind of weird after the fact,
and then like I don't know. But then the other
day I'm texting with her and she's like, I'm on
my way to church, I'll pray for you, and she
was doing all this like weird religious pious shit, and
I'm like, what is going on.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like this ship you wanted.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Look, I'm not judging anybody whatever, but like she was
doing like literally, I was almost like I thought maybe
it was a joke or like somebody else was fucking
with me or something, because it was like, I don't
know if I can see you anymore, Like I'm you know,
I'm going to church to pray for my sins and
you should too. It was this whole pious it was like,
and it really was elitist. Also, we're the same religion,
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she and I but I cannot stand I don't know
what was going on, but I cannot stand it when
people stand on religion like somehow they're superior to you
because they because they go to church or believe they
have a more intimate connection with God or whatever. It's like,
that's the entire that's that's contradictory to the whole purpose.
The whole purpose is you are not better.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Than me, right, you have to know that's her own shit,
but it which is so weird.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I'm like, you want you wanted me to disrespect you,
and now like she feels guilty about it, and.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now you're like telling me you're going to church and
praying for me and all this weird shit, Like what
are you?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
No, I'm good things. She's a weird Yeah, yeah, please
don't pray for me.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm so triggered by people who use religion as some
form of power trip because I have had it happen
to me a couple in a couple of different dynamics
where it's like I'm less than because you've got a
Bible on your desk and because you can recite Bible verses,
and you know what the interesting part is in one
of those two cases, it was the person who was
projecting this stuff onto me was one of the worst
human beings. Yes, but I ever know, but truly one
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of the worst human beings. A liar, a cheat, deceptive, gaslighting,
I mean, just a really bad person. And yet the
whole time it's like, but you don't know Jesus, and
I'm going I don't think you do either, bro like you.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
It's it's so weird.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
The cockiness that it takes to think that your chosen
religion and your relationship with God is the right one
for someone else, and that you have all the answers
and you know what's right is concerning, like you should
have your own relationship with your own religion, your own God,
whatever you want to believe in. But thinking your way
is the right way is so gross.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Like grow.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I also know some people who for whom it's a
power thing, Like I know some people who have become
members of clergy in one way or another, like I happen.
I know someone very well who is a Catholic deacon.
This is a man who's been divorced I think four times. Oh,
I think maybe more than that. And again, everyone has
an opportunity an opportunity to redeem themselves. But I have
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a very difficult time believing that fundamentally anything changed other
than you now can wear a collar and you somehow
have now become an authority. Like you now all of
a sudden, because of what that represents, are able to
advise other people on how to live. I'm like, dude,
you paid for that, Like you buy that. I think
in the Catholic Church that there are churches that will
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make you a deacon because you don't have you can
be married.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I don't know you did all this, yeah, I like.
Speaker 10 (17:04):
You have to go through the training. Well yeah, but
you know, and yeah, you could be married, you could be.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Divorced, But like, who gets to decide that you're now
all of a sudden you are going to tell me?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
But like what about you?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And by the way, I think some of the more
valuable advice you can get from people are people who
have redeemed themselves. I just don't necessarily know if people
are redeemed or they just now feel this power because
because if you're a member of organized religion, you are
to respect clergy.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
But like who made you God?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know what I mean? It's a very confusing thing
for me. It's why I have a difficult time with
organized religion.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
Yes, everybody should just have their own relationship with whoever
they believe in.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's like the story I told you maybe a year
or two ago about a guy who worked with who
wouldn't be my friend because because I wouldn't go to
church with him it made me uncomfortable. He was my friend,
he was my coworker, and church was very important to him,
and this particular church was very important to him. I
didn't really identify with with that. It was I don't know,
I didn't feel and I didn't want to go. And
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basically he was like, well, then he basically wrote me
off as a friend because I wouldn't go with him.
And then maybe a year or so ago, he writes
me a note telling me that he's proud of me,
that I appear to have made something of myself. And
I'm like, this isn't bullshit I'm talking about, Like this
is what I mean. Like, because you go to church
and you you have a relationship with God that's unique
to you, somehow, now you're able to tell other people
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that they appear in your mind like they've done something
good with their lives like that's not up to you,
Like that's you're not God.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Yeah it was. I opened up to someone one time
about like I was struggling with my mental health and
they they advised me to get a prayer app and
I was just like, fuck, I.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Need like medication.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Oh when they started using the church man and a
lot of people, I think they mean, well, but but
that's like if.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
You if you say, like you for you, maybe.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Have you considered this? And I'd like to invite you?
That's one thing. But then if someone says I'm not
comfortable with that, then that doesn't have to change the
nature of the friendship fundamentally. Like you just you offered
it because it's helped you. I mean, look, that's like
me saying I take vitamin D every day. Have you
guys considered that and you're like, I don't know, maybe
i'll take vitamin D or maybe I won't.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I'm like, well you won't take it for you? Yeah,
I hate you.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I mean it's like that's how I choose to live,
and if you don't want to live that way, you
don't have to. I can still be your friend. I
don't know, It's just it's very and I know you
go to church a lot in Kiki. I know it's
an important part of your life, and you know, I
don't know. It's Uh, she.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Helps the kids at church, right.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Yeah, you run the tech and you do all that
I do.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yes, when I met church, I've been missing a little
bit lately.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But yeah, do you feel obligated or do you feel
like it's actually a calling for you to go there
and do that?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
For there's like ups and down, so like sometimes I'm like,
oh my god, I gotta go do this again. You
feel that obligation, but I see the way it has
helped transform me as a person and the way it's
helped transform my life. So then that's why I can
see you to go. So it keeps me grounded, it
keeps me humble. But again that's what works for me.
And so when like Kaitlyn just made a point of
(20:01):
like she was going through something and she was telling
somebody and they offered her a prayer. App Now I
understand they. I think they had good intentions. Yeah, and
it's not just so just because somebody tries to offer
you or invite you to what they believe in or
what has helped them. I don't want you guys to
feel offended by that, because it's like, I.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Don't think they meant any harm. It just didn't work
for you.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
Now, if they kept pressing you about it after you said,
you know, you weren't interested because you weren't doing yeah,
then that's what like.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Think sometimes people we just you take your own experiences.
That's the only thing we can live by. And I
just know how God has helped me in my life,
so I want to share that with other people who
may be struggling, you know what I'm saying, So maybe
you can help them in that way too, So don't
I don't want you to feel offended, and you are
entitled to feel however you want, but I don't want
you to. I think their intention may not have been
to offend you, but instead like, oh, maybe let me
(20:52):
share what helped me.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Yeah, there's like more detail, Like it was a specific
diagnosis of like a chemical and balance in my brain,
so like medication was required, Like I wish that God
praying would save it. I've tried, I had tried everything
up until that point, so like I think that's where
it turned me off. Also, like the person and the
way it was delivered. If you had done that to me,
I would have been appreciative. It's just it's just different
(21:15):
and everybody's going off their own experiences. Hey, this is
what worked for me, and I would never get offended
by that.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Know and and know an aa.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I think a lot they do talk about like God
or a source, and I think that helped a lot
of people too when it comes to like addiction. But
I think what triggers me a lot with like the
Kale situation is I think growing up, I've heard a
lot of like going to church or like praying things
off whatever, when it's like it's deeper than that, you
know what I mean. So sometimes I'm just like damn,
like you know, we know more now at this big age,
(21:43):
like let's let's be for real and know that, like
you know, therapy is important and like you know, there's
there's certain medication we can take or just do certain things, right.
I think prayer is a great place to start and
it might help like some people you're saying.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
There's statistics that show that, like religion helps people. And I,
by the way, do pray. I just don't feel the
need to advertise it. And I think a lot of
people would be shocked by that. But like I believe
in God, I pray in my own relationship. I just like,
don't need to share that with you.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
No, you don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
My nana was a Catholic, very very, very devoted, and
she believed in blind faith. And I remember I would
ask her all kinds of questions about me about Catholicism
that I just didn't understand, and the answer, for the
most part was it just is. It just is, and
it's like that. And that worked for her, and it
provided answers for her during very difficult times when she
(22:33):
was married for I think what over sixty years.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
You know, she had heard issues.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
My grandfather was very sick at cancer, and they got
through so much stuff in a very long life, and
I think there were times where she just when she
wanted answers and she didn't understand why. Then the Bible
and Catholicism gave her those answers. I think it's why
a lot of people do flock to religion, especially when
they're going through a hard time. Like scientology is another one,
for example, they have all the answers. If you subscribe,
(22:59):
they'll tell you everything. They'll say exactly what's going on
in their mind. And I think people really find comfort
in that and they love that. And I guess there
have been times where I've been really low and I've wondered,
why is this happening? Like why is it happening? Where's
the lesson? And I feel like that's the Catholicism that's
like rooted deep within the back of my mind because
I grew up with it was someone's watching over me,
(23:21):
someone's guiding me. Why is this happening? What did I
do to deserve it? The Catholic guilt comes in, you know,
what what can I do to adjust it? So I
guess in some ways, you know, fundamentally it can help
shape a direction. But at the same time, I don't
know that everybody has to see it the same way.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
No, I mean wars are fought over this.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, yes, and it's just because I don't go to
your church and subscribe to your pastor who were as easies.
And you know, you know what, I don't get me started.
It doesn't mean that my relationship is any less valuable
than yours. And by the way, if that works for you,
that's amazing. But the entire purpose of this is not
to judge me because I won't do what you do, right,
(24:03):
damn it.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Yeah, it's also hard for me when something really fucking
terrible happens, and a lot of that happens in this world.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
That's where people lose me.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
And when someone tells me that it like happens for
a reason, like the school shooting with my sister, you know,
like like God has a plan, I'm just like.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Oh, fuck off.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
There are a few things and most of them involve
kids where I don't understand the purpose. Yes, you know,
working with kids at Larie Children's for example, and like
going bedside me. A lot of these kids, a lot
of them don't survive. A lot of them do, but
some of them don't. And you I've yet to understand
what taking a child from a parent is teaching anyone. Now,
(24:41):
granted there must be a lesson, there's got to be
a reason this is life, I understand, but like that,
there are a few things that that just doesn't work
for me. For me, for me to say, well, God
has a plan, ah, what in the hell could that be? Right?
Speaker 8 (24:53):
And don't say that to someone when they're in like
the darkest time because they don't want to hear that
the plan was for that awful thing can happen.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Because that particular thing I have seen cause rifts and
shake ups in people's lives. I mean a lot of
those parents get divorced. Oh yeah, and they'll never be
the same. And this is just one example, and I'm
sure everybody listening has their own example of a thing
that they just in their mind like why why And
that one is particularly hard for me. But again, if
(25:21):
you whatever religion you believe in, there's probably an explanation
as to why that happens. And that's where that blind
faith comes in, where you have to be like, well,
you know, this is awful and I'm going through it,
but the reason it happened is because God has a
plan or what if insert whatever your belief is here,
And I guess that can provide people with a lot
of comfort. But I tend to be too analytical, and
(25:44):
I tend to I can't. The blind faith thing is
just so hard, and my Nana would just sit there
and go, it just is. It just is, like Christopher,
it just is, and it's like da.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I mean more, yeah, yeah, No, Honestly, I honestly lost
a lot of faith when after my mom passed away,
Like I I was just like why why would you,
like you know what I'm saying, if you believe in
something like and then you're yeah, right, and it's like
how can you how can I believe anymore? You know
what I'm saying, Like I've had conversations with you know,
(26:14):
me and him by ourselves, you know what I'm saying,
Like I cursed that man out, like it was.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Like it's like this, it's fucked up.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
But yeah, yeah, and again, I suppose religion, if you
talk to a pastor or a priest or somebody clergy
about it, they would they would give you something to
the effect of everything happens for a reason and there's
a plan, and he was supposed to learn something.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
And but again, how like how especially.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Like in the Filipino culture, like you you you literally
like pray every day, like every night everyone gets to
get I'm like for what Like like I was honestly
just sitting there like what is this for? Like it's
it's it's like my mom's it's already happened.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Like what are we praying for?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Like, like you know what I'm saying, She's gone like
you know, he took her away, and like why and
then you gotta sit there and prayer.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Day I was, It's like, fuck is bullshit?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
A lot of people, yeah, feel that way, get it.
I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And by the way, like there are people listening who
might be triggered by this conversation and they might have
the answers, and it's like, that's wonderful for you. I
think the whole point here is that everyone has their
own individual experience and their own struggles with it. And again,
you could listen and go, well, if you would just
subscribe to X y Z, then this wouldn't be so
hard for you and you wouldn't have to think of
these answers. That's not the way my brain works. My
brain works in such a way that I want I'm analytical,
(27:30):
I want answers. I overthink it. I need to understand why,
and again relegit, we'll give you those answers you don't have.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You may not agree with them, but if you buy in,
then there they are. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm like Rufio though I've seen some things happen and
some things have happened to me, and I'm just like
where where's the Okay, so there's a lesson, It's sure
there's a lesson, but this is the worst possible thing
that could happen.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
And why Yeah, you got fucking horrible ass people on
this planet.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
They're alive and living. And then my mom, who's the
fuck and do nothing wrong in our life? Is gone?
You know what I'm saying. It's hard to believe and
follow and trust and all that shit.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And then the Catholics in the room start to I
don't mean to be controversial here, but what happens to
me is then I start to say, what did I
do to deserve that? You know, It's like, well, because
Catholic guild, Well, I obviously am not living right if
these bad things are happening to me, so I need
to change. And I suppose maybe that's not a horrible
(28:28):
thing to every now and again assess, you know, the
choices that you're making and whatever else. But at the
same time, it's not necessarily helpful for me to then
believe that I did it, like it's my karma that
made a bad thing happen to someone else, or that
happened to me, you know what I mean? And I
don't know I don't know how helpful that is either,
I except for you know, and now that we're talking
(28:48):
about and I suppose every now and again to check
in with yourself and be like, hey, look, you know,
Catholic guilt is a real thing, and something bad happened,
and did I put something out there to make it happen?
And you know what choices am I making? And I
don't think, by the way, it has anything to do
with that. But no, I've had a few moments, especially lately,
where I've had to check in with myself and be like,
what am I doing?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I also don't want to believe in a higher power
that would punish you for being human and making a mistake,
Like that's not something that I want to subscribe to.
I do believe in karma, but I think intention is
really fucking important when you're talking about karma. And I
just don't want to believe that we're getting like punished
for doing something that we didn't mean to do that
was bad.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, and I certainly hope on a religious standpoint, again,
I only can really come from a standpoint of a
being a Catholic raised Catholic. But I certainly hope that
if I'm ever evaluated someday that it's not, you know,
item by item that is kind of the stuff of
all parts.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
It is You've got to just be a good person,
Like just try your best, Like that's what it's about.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
He's definitely gonna pull out that list, don't you.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Every job he saves, it's like check check.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Idea good heart, if I help out some kid with
cancer or like, he's like that for every dog. I
do believe that that checks went off of some shitty
thing I've done. I actually do believe that, Jason, you
probably had the most intimate relationship with it all, and
you've been very quiet. I won't force you into this conversation,
(30:12):
but your parents wanted you to do all these things
in the church growing up.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
Oh yeah, I mean I had to do it, and
I think getting out of that, I mean, I went
to Catholic school for eighteen years. Like it was, I
was religion all day, every day for eighteen years.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Do you feel in some ways like it delayed you
being who you are because you were afraid to sort
of be more.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
I think it's a combination of religion and I mean,
just being gay in high school is just never easy
for anybody. But I mean, looking back at it now,
it's very much like, Okay, I didn't meet a lot
of different types of people until I got out of
that part of my life, right, So, like I didn't
realize that there were different beliefs in different because everyone
(30:58):
I grew up with and was surrounded with my whole life.
That's why I honestly say, and this is probably a
controversial take too, I would never do Catholic school if
I had kids.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
I think it's a waste of money.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
Very it shelters.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
And I don't blame my parents because they went to
public school and very very much where of the belief
of this will prepare you for college and this will
like get you farther ahead in life. I know what
you're dad with someone, yeah, someone that like lived and
went through it. I would never do that to my kid,
just because it's I feel like I was sheltered.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
From a lot well, and I don't I don't mean
to make excuses for the amount of ignorance that is
out there, and I don't mean to pick on any
one particular group because I think ignorance comes from all angles.
But I will say this much my parents. I grew
up in a an affluent neighborhood. My parents worked there.
They they grew up in a relatively affluent neighborhood, but
they worked to provide more than they had. They sent
me to the best school in town. They sent me
(31:49):
to the best college I could get into. And I
hate I have to say it was all white people.
I was literally I did not know a black person
until halfway through college, like because there weren't any. I
think there's one Hispanic kid that I grew up with.
But like, my point is right, No, my point is though,
(32:10):
I can see why people their views can be the
way they are, because like in my case, I went
from Scottsdale to Highland Park, Dallas, and I probably could
have married somebody from there and then lived there and
never left the bubble of people who are just like me.
And I think what happened was I got a radio
job in college, thank god, and I was immediately out
(32:32):
of that circle. And I was around people from all
different walks. I mean, they were people who were way
more successful than me, way less successful, who came from more,
who came from less. And I feel like that really
shaped my viewpoint and I changed quickly. Yes, and you
became black, well I did, Yeah, I became I became myself.
I didn't know any so I made myself.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I mean, but like, honestly, I don't know that a
lot of people, whether you come from this area or
this area or this area of the spectrum, I feel
like people need to try a lot hard and need
to be a lot more mindful of the fact that
they don't know what they don't know. Yes, and a
lot of people don't know they don't I don't know.
You make associations. All white people are this way, all
(33:13):
black people are this way. Well, how many how much
time have you spent with people who were different from you?
And the answer for a lot of people is not much,
you know what I mean. It's like because it's because
you grow up in this neighborhood and and and so
you surround yourself with these people, and then you grow
up with these people, and you follow in the footsteps
of these people. And it's like, I don't think very
many people are out there trying very hard to learn
about other people's viewpoints. And that's one blessing of this
(33:36):
job is that we hear from people every day who
are different. We hear from people, we meet people all
the time, all different walks of life, because it's just
part of it, because we serve everybody. But you can
see it on the text. You can see it on
the text. These people will write like these things that
are like you, you clearly are have no idea what
you're talking about? Like you, you know what I mean?
Like that is the viewpoint of somebody who's never been there.
(33:58):
And I think it's I think we see a lot
of it in politics, to say voting, you know, everyone's
got an opinion of It's like when I hear people
talk about geopolitics, I'm like, do you even you do you?
Have you made any effort to even understand what you're
talking about? Or are you regurgitating points that you saw
on TV? Oh yeah, or that you read on the
(34:18):
website from the news network that you trust buzzy you know,
And it's like, I don't know, travel the world a
little bit, and I know that everybody gets to do that,
but like, if you have the opportunity, why don't you
go to some of these places or like meet some
people that are different, really different than you and have
these conversations. And it's kind of amazing how people who
think that they're so different when you come together very
(34:40):
different people tend to have very similar viewpoints about very
basic things. But instead we just assume that everyone's you know,
that no one else can no one else knows what
we know, and no one else can live like we have,
and no one else, you know, there are no other
ways to look at things in the way that we
were raised to look at them. And I feel like
that's kind of where why we are where we are.
And now we'll fly that with social media and everything else.
(35:02):
Now you can spew your your bias bullshit. Yes you know.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
And I love watching like little kids when you just
see them play and there's just none of that there yet.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Yes, and you don't.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
It's just so beautiful and like it really is up
to you know, the parents and the world to like
it influences you, whether good or bad. I watched it
happen a lot in college, Like I got to college,
and I saw so many people be like ignorant about
shit because of how they grew up, And I was
just so grateful that I wanted to like a diverse
high school. But you know, you see, everyone's a product
(35:31):
of their environment, and certainly their parents believes.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Well, it's like Polly, my niece, she's turning three this month,
and my sister works at a very exclusive, very boozy school,
and everybody has money. You have to have money, you
have to be smart. And the interesting thing is she's
in like a like kind of a pre preschool or
a preschool kind of thing, like a pre kindergarten. Yeah,
and I'm thinking to my sister. I'm talking to her,
and I'm like, you know, I don't know, this is
(35:54):
a very niche environment. But what I didn't realize is
that program is only for imployees kids. Oh and so
there's a lot of diversity, so Polly's not necessarily surrounded
by there are people who are different than she, but
like I hate to say it, these are real folks.
These are the kids of real people. Because you know,
I don't know so and so's rich kids, daughter goes there,
(36:16):
and so and so everyone's got you know, millions of dollars,
and everybody grew up this kind of way. And I'm
something like, ah, man, you know, I kind of grew
up like that. Amanda kind of grew up like that. Like,
I don't know, is there benefits to maybe Polly, you know,
experiencing more diversity and she is, because those aren't the
rich kids, those aren't the kids that look just like Polly.
Those aren't the kids that grew up dislike her. She's
(36:37):
in Spanish, right, yeah, and so your play. She doesn't
know the difference.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
It's so sweet to what it is.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
She has no idea how different the people around her
are necessarily or what she has that they don't or whatever,
because they're kind of all equal.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
There's this video online of this little kid being shown
like pictures of like different you know, races or whatever,
and like they ask the little kid, like, what do
you see about this picture?
Speaker 6 (36:58):
And the little kid's just like he's wearing blush shorts.
Like it's just it's very.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Pure and beautiful and I hate when I see it
go away.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
But so it's got to be a struggle.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Like I have friends of mine like, oh, you know,
I got to send my kid to this school and
it's fifty grand a year and this and that, and
I know what they're thinking. It's I want to provide
my kid with the very best of everything. But sometimes
I wonder is the very best actually the very best,
like from a you know, lifelong perspective.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I think about that often.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, to be completely honest, because I don't I'm gonna
be for real, I don't want my kids to go
where I went, Like it's just she's just not going
to do that. But then I'm like, well, what are
the options then? Exactly what you're saying, It's like do
I do that and do a disservice to her? Like
I don't want her to go to Catholic school and
be sheltered and not know anything to be street smart,
like you know what I mean, I know anything.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
It's like I don't know. I think what this lots
like an internal struggle?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
So you wouldn't want her to go.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Or I went absolutely no, no, no, And why is that?
I don't like the public school system and I'm a
product of it. I don't like it right now to
be completely transparent and especially like my high school no,
like I just wouldn't like I'm not Shenana had a
great high school experience.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
But then it's like I.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Don't nowhere else to send her, you know, because it
would be like, is she gonna go to the bougie
school can't even afford the fucking boogie school, and any
other question.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, I know we've made a lot of like generalizations
here too, but not every kid that goes to a
bougie school has been. Not every kid that goes to it,
you know, inner city school has been. But I would
agree though that, like, I don't know. I have a
great friend whose kid goes to a very prominent boogie
school in town, and and they're successful, relatively wealthy people,
(38:35):
And she told me the other day that this kid
is the only kid in the ten kids in the
class that doesn't whose parents don't own a private jet.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
What you know.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
And it's like, no, I mean, and I'm not saying
that these parents are these kids are shitty, No, I'm sorry,
But if every vacation you go on is on a
private jet and you've never walked through the real terminal
and flown Southwest Airlines before, and I'm different that, I
think it's very hard, even if you have the best intentions,
of course, to balance out, you know, I don't know,
(39:05):
I would imagine that's a struggle. But again, these are
people who are like I want my kid to have
the very best that money can buy, but then you
have to assess whether that is actually the very best.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
You want, better than what you had. And that's kind
of where I'm at, Like I don't want my daughter
to fall into like just certain things that like I've
seen in my high school, I don't don't want that.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And then there's a whole set of different problems right
the kids, Like there were things I didn't see an experience,
but there are things I did see an experience like
absent tea parents and a shitload of expendable income and
drugs and and suicide. I mean, and I'm not saying
these things don't happen everywhere, but like it's just a
whole new set of problems. But here you are here here,
(39:45):
we are supposedly insulated from that because well, everybody has
money and everyone's smart, so nothing bad is going to happen.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Oh no, really bad stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
It happens everywhere, That's what I'm saying exactly. So it's
it's an interesting battle.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Well, we went from a fitting to sucking.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
To spinning in mouth, regions.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
On people to religion to schools. Yes, so we are
in the world. Want to go home thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
So I think we went from one of our worst
podcasts to probably one of our better ones. But people
will still like the City one anyway, so if you're
still listening, thanks Uh that's the tang
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