July 17, 2018 • 25 mins
Jake sits down with Jimmie Allen. A singer, songwriter and friend. The two have a very open and honest talk about overcoming stereotypes and what "success" really is. -aaand that Jimmie used to play Burn The Fort as a kid. There were guns involved-
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Jake going and this is Good Company.
Good Company. Welcome to Good Company, a podcast where we
talk about everything under the sun, friends, good times company.
Now here's your host. Yo, yo yo. What's up, Boys
(00:23):
and girls, ladies and gentlemen. It's Jake. I am back
with another episode of Good Company. You guys, knowing Good
Companies all about it's about having people on here that
are interesting, that are good people, and they've got great stories.
And we have exactly that today. Got my buddy Jimmy
Allen on here. What's up, dude, dude just happened to
be here. This sends out today the man from Milton
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where it all happens. Hot band a country music. Yeah.
This Uh, this has been a really kind of serendipitous thing. Um,
it's been I guess, I don't know. A few weeks
back Jimmy text me and said, hey, man, you're gonna
be a Delaware I think I wanna be at that show,
so he said, I said, come out, man, it'd be
good to see you. Well. Last night, before I went
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to do a charity event with um Lee Bryce for
the Folds of Honor and some other folks, I stopped
off to have a little margart rita at a at
a local Mexican establishment here in Nashville, and there was
old Jimmy Allen sitting at the bar, and so we
started talking and uh, he said, he's going he's leaving Wednesday.
I said, I'm leaving Wednesday, and thanks to my friends
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with Sessna, we um we're flying there on on on
one of their planes. And I said, dude, you gotta
ride with us. So he's gonna hop on the plane
tomorrow and ridled us up to Milton. That's so, that's
your Like, I was born and raised right in Milton.
Tell me about Milton, Delaware, man, some Milton for people
don't know, it's in the state of Delaware. Yes, Delaware
is a state. Uh, it's it's just a little town. Man.
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Like when I left, it was like eight hundred people.
I think now people that like the influx gets up
to like two thousand during the summer because people were
so close to the beach, so people come in. But man,
we grew up my neighbor hood. The one side of
the streets corn fields, other side soybean fields and there's
like woods and trees behind the house. Man, So we
grew up pond fishing, ocean fishing, full wheeling, building bike ramps,
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building forts and then setting them on fire. I didn't
realize how unsafe that was, because we used to do
this thing called burning fort man, and we were like
like build forts and then you had to find other
person's fort and and burn it down and then shoot
a gun in the air at the no. I wasn't
safe at all, but you had to shoot the guns
so people can know you found the fort, and you
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had to run towards it for for like proof and stuff.
But it was fun, dude, it was a good time.
You look back on that and think about how how
fast time flies on. You still got buddies that all
live there. Yeah. Man, I'm my next door neighbor that
still lives in my childhood home in Milton. My next
door neighbor's dad still lives in that house. I got
other friends there, and I'm friends with all the kids
I grew up with. Man, like we're still friends, and so,
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you know, we talked a lot and try to catch um.
So I was. I was telling Jimmy earlier that one
of the reasons I wanted to have him on here
um and I ran into him yesterday. Not only did
I say, hey, hop on the plane, let's let's go
to Delaware, because he's he's You're playing the Delaware State
Fair the next day, the next day. So, um, we
just we have a lot in common, man, you kind
of being from a coastal town. I'm from a coastal town.
We're talking last night about fishing. You love to fish.
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I love to fish too. Um yeah, yeah, we're single dads. Man.
How old your your little boy and my little girl's five.
So there's just a lot, man, And I know we
kind of condense. He's down to like fifteen twenty minutes.
But there's so much I wanted to talk to you
about because you're just talking to you yesterday when you
were telling me about everything you're going through in this
career right now, in your news your new song best Shot,
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which by the way, is such a great song. Um,
I know how that is. Man. I was asking you
last night. I was like, as a new artist, how's
it been, How's how's this traveling around been? Because you
said you're not in a tour bus, you're trappling around
on a van. Are you? Are you starting to see
you on the road? Your song, Like people are really
starting to react because that's a sing along, like like
just a good man. It's starting to react. Man, I
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get um uh. People come up to me and say, hey,
they're using it as their first dance on their wedding.
Like someone sent me a video of this husband and
wife using this song as the first dance of their wedding.
So I invited them out to the opera tonight. So
I'm playing the operay, You're playing the opera tonight, and
I've landed them out. Man, what I want to start
and like that's what like when people say this song
touches them, I want to find a way, like to
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really connect with them. So if they're in Nashville, meet
them for coffee or just trying to you know. I
feel like music is so personal and it touches you.
So I feel like the least I can do is, like,
you know, if it happens to work out for them
and for me, like just just say hello, dude. That's
that's good company right there. That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I've really and it's hard to do. And
I will tell you, like I've always tried to maintain
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that attitude towards fans and people. People have always said
to me, They're like, how come you just invite random
people on your boat to go out? And I said,
because for me, it's not hard to do, and for
them it means the world. So songs like yours and
mean when they connect with people and you can connect
with them, especially in today's age, like with social media
and stuff whereas know, and that's what's funny is artists,
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when you get a record deal or you're just trying
to make it, what's the number one thing you want
to do. It's get your song out to as many
people as possible and connect with your fans. And now
we kind of have all these social media platforms, we
were able to connect with our fans even though we're
doing right now. I mean, we're having a podcast talking
directly to people that want to listen. So you have
an awesome story. You grew up Milton, Delaware, like you said,
And then when did you move to Nashville. I moved
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to Nashville in two thousand seven. And then when I
moved to Nashville two thousand seven, I had literally had
twenty one dollars in my bank account. I filled up
on credit the whole way downs. By the time I
got down here in my bank account was like negative
two hundred bucks. I worked at a gym and a
snack bar. I lived in the trailer for a little
bit with no electric. The lady sold the trailer, at
least that's what I was told she was selling the trailer. Really,
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you lift in your car. In the car for a
few months, um. Because I had promised, where did you
park that car? Man? Behind the gym, And there's a
business parking lot in Cool Springs. I used to park
there in the shaded by trees. I would park there.
I'd sleep from like twelve to about four thirty five
in the morning, go to the gym, U watch my
clothes at the gym hour. Um. Then I'd work my
my shift at the snack bar or whatever. And then
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I promised my little sister. I said, hey, if you're
getting you get good grades and getting this private school.
I helped pay for it so I could have got
an apartment sooner. Let the money I would have used
an apartment. I sent that home to my sister. And
then my friend moved down and then we got a
place together man and and and it was cool so
he did I jobs like I was a janitor one,
but I had the thing. I would never work a
job longer than eight months because I didn't want to
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get comfortable. So months seven, I would start feel out
applications for other jobs so I could leave for like
I did the whole Broadway thing, but I never played.
I didn't play Broadway longer than eight months, because you know,
it's easy to get sucked in and get comfortable and
lose sight of your vision, you know, man, loose loose
sight of your goal. And I and I never wanted
to uh to do that, man, so I just kept moving.
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Have you always been like that since you were a kid?
Were you in sports and competitive? That was super competitive? Broeh,
I'm very like you said. You got you guys all
John Anthony here is holding it now their boy Keith
Coufman as usual here in the podcast booth. But you
guys played like basketball every Tuesday, right man. It was
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like Monday, Wednesday and Fridays. Man, we would hoop and
play you know, Courtland Finn again coming there and hoop
every nine again. And I would I might not win
every game, but I'm trying to win every game, of course,
but that's life, Like, we're not gonna win every time.
That's the thing people don't, you know, people have a
hard time accepting loss. But I think sometimes accepting loss,
which goes back to your story, man, like you've had
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a lot of times in your life where like probably
it looked like you were losing more than winning, but
you always gotta you said, you can't get comfortable, like
don't get comfortable in the loss, and you don't get
comfortable in the win. Always just you never find comfort
in anything other than chasing down what you're passionate and
because it was. Man, there's so many times, dude. I
remember I was laying there in my car on that
um I always slept, slept in the front seat. I
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would turn the heat on so the car would like
warm up and turn off, and had like a hoodie on,
some jeans and sweatpants and a blanket. I remember laying
in one night thinking to myself, what am I doing?
Like am I like wasting my lightful way? And then
I got my apartment. Things finally got going, and man,
I tell you, things really changed for me when I
had my son, because I quickly realized my goals didn't
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change but the way I approached him did like I
was smarter. I realized every decision I made, as far
as people I let in my life, affected him, every
decision I made. I didn't want to waste any more
time with my son, and I felt like my circle
got smaller and I really focused on what I needed,
what I really needed to do with with with music, man,
and I feel like I started writing the best songs
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ever because I had another It wasn't just for me anymore.
You know, Like I got this kid who's looking up
to me, and it's like I can't as a man
and as a father tell him to chase his dreams
if I give up on mind. So I need to, yes,
work two or three jobs to keep food on the table. Now,
everybody changed your dreams, but if you're a parent, still
do you need to do for a kid? Don't not
work and not make any money changing the dream? No,
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you busched your but work to three jobs if you
need to, but don't give up that Dreamyah, that's really
well have said, man. I mean with myself having a
little girl, I strive every day to be the best
dad I can be. And then there's those moments where
I catch myself not being that guy, you know, like
even and not necessarily when she's in front of me,
but when she's not around me, making decisions that could
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quite possibly affect her life is kind of scary to
me because we're all in this like weird bubble where
people are looking at you all the time and trying
to find ways to tear you down. And I just
don't ever want to make any sorts of decisions that
could affect her, even though I do it daily. And
the crazing is, you know, there's so like a daughter,
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she's so harmless man. And it's like she's literally stuck
with whatever decision you know, that you make affects her,
it's there's nothing she can do about it. You know,
She's just stuck. And that's what really keeps me on
my toes now by my son. It's like, man, I
don't want to put him in a situation he can't
handle and that he shouldn't have to handle. Man, So
I always gotta you know, keep my crap together. Well
he'll always see that with you, man. I mean was
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talking about this last night, having being a single parent
and doing the back and fourth thing. You know, Um,
it's gotta be tough, because I know it is because
I I deal with it. But him seeing you work
as hard as you work, in the stories that you
that you'll tell him that you've gone through, um'll only
make him stronger as a kid. But did you bring
your dough? When I started doing for my son to
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really have him understanding so young, every city I go to,
I bring him something that's cool, whether it's a key chain,
whether it's a postcard, and trying to bring back postcards
to whether it's a T shirt. Dude, your son's gonna
have a lot of key chains. If I don't remember
my TM, help me remember, like I have like this
last trip right, so my my tour manager I brought
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I did a did an eight city running last week,
so I had I brought back eight things. And whether
it's like a little toy car or something, I bring
it back to him and say, hey, daddy got this
from here? Oh did you sing this song? Did you sing? Yeah?
And then it's a conversation starter. And then I started
a photo album for him, a physical photo album. And
you should start when everybody listening to start one. Create
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an email for your kids, like, um, I do one.
Just whatever your kid's name is blah blah at Gmail
and start sending videos and pictures of them when they're little, right,
And then every now and again I'll write my son emails,
and when he turned sixteen or eighteen, I'm gonna give
him the password that will have all like like pictures
and videos and like notes with them. Then when that
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one email writes out, say your kid is Ashley Parker,
Astley Parker at Gmail and Astley Parker one as Parker two.
That way, all that stuff is there and email, it's
not going nowhere. And then it's like a letter and
a booklet to them of their life when they when
they get older. Man. So yeah, that's really cool from
a movie movies. B Yeah, you're very well rounded though. Man,
I got a question for you, just I want to
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cut like straight to the base on this. I want
to ask you because where I grew up in Florida,
when I moved to town, I was along here a
guy and like everybody's like, you know about country music
here from Florida, right, well as for those that don't
out there like you're a black dude, I'm a black
guy yo yoa. But and I'm sure people have asked
you this before, but like like Myron in my band,
we were talking about last night, um in the country
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music format and even in today's world in society. I
had Myron on here, you know, we were talking about
that on the on the show. Even in today's world
two thousand and eighteen, there's still some ignorant people out there, right,
So how how has that been with like coming into
this format of country music that's predominantly throughout the year
has been more white dominant, no doubt. It's like I
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think five black guys total. But that's gotta be inspirational
for you too, but not just for you, for like,
for other kids and people out there. It's not only inspirational.
I think it's educational because you're you're you're showing people that, like,
stop being ignorant and forward. Like my dad told me, Man,
after I got my record deal, he's so excited. He said,
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you know what, Uh, you have the opportunity now to
when people years from when people talking about black guys
in country music. You're in the top four of the
first to do it. And he said, man, you're you're
you're you're motivating and and giving other kids that look
like me an example of hey, man, you can be
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this skin color and still do this, you know, because
it's so funny because I meet people from like the South, Flake,
Georgie and stuff. There's like there's country in Delaware. Yes, people,
there's country and every sing what got you? What got
you in the country? My dad, man, like my mom
is enough. I'm a Christian and my dad list nothing
but country music, like my dad, who's your dad? Love
Aaron Tipping and I ain't nothing wrong. My dad introduced
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me to country music through Aaron Tipping and me and
Aaron and friends. Now, so my opera debut, I reached
out to him. How jack does that guy? Dude? He's
still Jack For those of you all that don't know,
Aaron Tipping lifts weight. It's like seventeen times a day
and he is ripped. Great guy man, and he did
the opera with me. Then the day before the oppre
was so cool. They gave me and him a boat
and they filmed me and him like fishing for the day.
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So it was cool. Like for me, it was full
circle moment to where I'm about to play the opery
and I'm hanging out with the guy that his music
introduced me to country music. My dad was used my
coming genie fan. I got to become friends with t Roy.
It's been cool. Man. So you know, being a black
guy in the john at first, of course, you know,
you always get the you get those those so you shoot,
so shoot you. So what do you know about country?
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You mean? I was born and raising and I look
at country music like Christian music. It's more about the
lifestyle of the person. Like because it's for me, countries
about your morals, how you were raised, where you were raised.
I feel like, to me, that's what makes you come,
what you believe, that's what makes you. That's feel like,
that's what makes you country the same way I look
at Christian music, man, and it's like, remember, I took
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my band and my manager Ash back to Delaware last
year and it was like, is it really country out there? So, oh,
you'll see him. About fourteen hours we got there, they
were like, WHOA. I tried to I tried to tell you,
but man, again, it comes back to my competitive side.
I don't mind. I don't mind standing out bro like
you kind of like having that little like something against you.
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I feel like you work harder, you work I feel
like a lot haters fuel me, bro like it really does,
Like I don't know, having people say you can't do this,
you can't do this, I'm gonna do it anyway, dude.
I'm gonna tell you right now. I just based off
your the way you talk and your passion for what
you're doing, I can tell you forget the people to
say you're not going to do it, because I can
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tell you right now you're gonna do it. I can
just tell by not only yeah, your song the Best
Shot is awesome, you sound amazing singing it, but just
your your passion and drive for wanting to do this
like zuds out of you. And that's why yesterday when
I was talking to you at the bar, I was like,
wait a second, you want to come on my podcast tomorrow?
Because yeah, because that's what again, like, this show for
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me kind of came about in a very random way.
Um thankful, thankfully to Bobby Bones he has this podcast
network and said, hey, man, I think you've got a
lot to talk about, a lot to say, And I said,
what do you mean? He said, I've just always enjoyed
the way that you want to talk about the positive
sides of things and really talk to people on a level,
because I know when I did his podcast, We Got
Real Man, it was one of the most real podcasts,
and he told me that he's ever done because I
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talked to him on some things that most people wouldn't
talk to him about. And um, I love sharing stories
like yours. So it's a big deal man, to have
people want real bro Like That's how it was when
me and Bible were there, Like we talked about both
like living on food stance for a while, and people
want real people want to be connected. That's all to me.
Social media just continues to show people want connected. They
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want to meet and feel other people that feel like them.
They want to know that they're not alone and whatever
it is they're going through. And for me, I was like,
the more we can give them, yeah to feel good songs,
but every now again, man, if we can give them
some songs and some stuff that really strikes a chord
with them, That's why for me, it's an honor. When
that couple sent me a video on Facebook of them dancing,
their first dance was my song. I'm like, from the
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rest of their life, when they hear my song, they
remember their first dance and when they remember their first
dance and remember my song, I feel like that's when
music really makes a connect. And and and that's I feel
like the kind of songs I want to make. Yeah,
I'm gonna have the Yeah girl, you look good at
them cut offs. Hey, you gotta had a good stuff. Man,
when I feel like every now and again, man, you
gotta give him something that's gonna stick forever with some substance. Bro.
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And And I don't know if I ever told you, Man,
I've been a huge fan of just for years, bro,
like like years. Man. So for me, Man, it's a
it's just been an honor to to one to meet you.
And you know, I'm looking forward to this trip tomorrow
hanging out and like watching play man. And so it's
it's been, Uh, it's been cool to see because like
you told me, you're joining You said it, well seven
years for you got your first number one. I remember,
I've I've followed your career since the you know, since
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the beginning, man, And to see you find a way
to you know, stay relevant in an industry that's forever changing,
and just you know, it's funny. It's funny. I recently
changed record labels and I'm now with Big Loud Records.
But I was with Sony for eleven or twelve years.
In the last couple of years of Sony and do
to some um you know, head changes at the top um,
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I kind of lost maybe a little momentum because of
maybe just their interests in me. They didn't they weren't
that connected with me. I wasn't signed by them. They
were signing new people, and I kind of felt that.
But it's funny. I've been doing these radio interviews the
last couple of days to hopefully get my song to
hit number one, and a lot of there are guys
on the radio like, God, Jake, it's so good to
have you back on the radio. I know they mean that,
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and it makes me feel good that they say that.
But I'm like, wait a second, man, Like I didn't
go anywhere, I've still been here. And so that's what
you'll always have to understand, is is that when things
are good, they're good, and when things are slow, people
to have a real in this business especially, they're real
quick to kind of just move on to the next.
So you always like your your tenacity that you have,
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you can never lose that and always the same way,
whether it's your tenacity for your work ethic and working hard,
or whether it's what you said about this guy and girl,
they're gonna come to the operating now, take care of people,
to take care of you, and always be there for him,
because there's gonna it ain't always gonna be you know,
it's not. It's not man and and and that's my
my thing. Man. I feel like we, you know, as artists,
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we definitely gotta find ways to stay cool, stay relevant.
What I started doing now might be weird, but I've
noticed nobody does meet and greets at the opery, you
know what I mean. So what I'm gonna start doing
I did in my front my debut. At the end
of the show, I go to the front and just
hang out and meet people. And I'm gonna do it
tonight and every because I realized so many people come
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to the opery and never see that artists performing again,
Like some people don't go to shows, They just operates
only chance they get. So I'm like, man, these people
are spending our harder on money to come to the opery.
I can go out front and hang out for about
forty five minutes, so it was. It was it got crazy,
like I didn't know that mean people are gonna want
to say hi, and I thought I was gonna blend
in him. But you know, yeah, because I even changed
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my shirt and didn't think anybody would recognize me. But yeah,
but now, man, now I'm I want to be intentional
about meeting people on purpose us. You know, So tonight
after the operate, I'm gonna be hanging out out front.
Every time I played the Opery, I must spend at
least forty five minutes. Well, I know for a fact
that they appreciate that that the opery as as the
as the you know, the everybody there that runs the opery,
but all the fans that are coming out and as
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you as you said earlier, you asked me when this
podcast comes out, this will be out today. So anybody
that's listening, um it lives here in Nashville, wants to
go out to the operay and it has a chancet.
I'll be wearing black skinny jeans, black boots, and I'll
be the black guy in them. That's awesome. You're gonna
be singing best Man. I'm singing best shot. Um singing
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a song called warrior. I read about my mother and
my grandmam and and and Blue Jean Baby, and when
you're talking about you know how people are so ready
to move on that my labels let me do this
thing called slower lower sessions where each month I'm releasing
a new song that's not on the album. So I
released already four got another one coming next month, the
album of fourteen all new songs coming in October. Then
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we're skipping November in December for the next five months
on right back to one new song a month. Good.
So they're let me just like flood the market because man,
listeners want songs. Not only that, but the way, the
antiquated ways, And I'm so glad you said that, because
the antiquated way that a lot of people are doing
it for a while is is you know, a lot
of label heads and presidents were saying, oh, we don't
want to put on any other music because it'll so
call cannibalize your song that's on the radio. But all
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you're doing is when people start feeding on what you're
giving them, they want more. So instead of making them
wait for forty weeks. You know what I mean, because
I saw you in March. I guess it was was
that in March when we did the thing for I
Heart Radio and we both had our songs. Weade we're
talking about this last night. Um, your song now is
like what you said the low thirties or something I
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think it was. And if I was a new artist
like yourself. And I hate to say new artists because
you've been here and done this for a long time,
but you know in the in the world's eyes and
the new artists, so I'd be right there with you.
I feel lucky enough after all these years to build
relationships and momentum that now I'm sitting here near in
number one on and you're sitting at thirty and our
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songs came out at the same time, and that kind
of goes to show people out there it's not as
easy as you think. You gotta put your time in
and grind, but dude, and it shows like your your
your proof that if I work hard enough, long enough,
eventually I'll get lucky and I'll get to that point.
So I get so excited like when you saw you
like I watched I saw your song climbing the charts man,
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and it's a great song. Was so happy for you,
because to me, it's proof that man, you've worked so
long and you're at the point where you deserve a
first listen. If it's between a Jake Owen song, it's
a smash. Whether it's a smash or not, you've you've
earned your spot in country music to where you take
precedent over myself and any other artists out there. That's
a new artist. Man, you deserve that spot, bro. So
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it's been a pleasure, man, just just meeting you and
getting to know you and watching your song get the
credit it deserves. Bro. Thanks dude, that's very nice for
you to say that, But I do I will go
back and maybe disagree with you for just a little
bit because I do believe this and I think you
will see it with your music as go forward. Is that, man,
we have this ability as singers and songwriters too. If
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you find that right song the minute it's finished and
you give it to the people, if it is the
song that they want, like, they're gonna get it and
they're gonna make that song will fly. It's like I
saw it with Barefoot Blue j Night. I mean, people
kept saying, I mean, and I've had hits I had
songs that went top five, number two, whatever. But until
you have that like career song where instantly people are
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like whoa, they start taking you more seriously or something
for some reason, and you're you're gonna have that, man,
and so get ready for that is the song I
want to sing with you? What's that Barefoot? Come on, dude,
you want to do it in Milton, let's do It'll
be all right. We that'd be cool to have you
out there. It's your hometown. You have some friends, come out, dude.
I got like because like they're huge fans of years
down there, man, and I'm still friends with my kindergarten teacher.
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Will be there, my first kid teaching. I got a
bunch of friends and family, but I probably know everybody
in the audience. Honestly, we'll be there like maday, man,
let's go fishing or song dude, like I'm down, like
you know you know what the mixer Jeff Jeff Juliana. Yeah,
he texted me. I was like, Yo, I'm coming with Jake.
He said he's got his boat. He said, we'll go fishing.
I love so like we can literally land. I don't
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know if you gotta go, you gotta go sound check.
But yeah, you pay people to that. Yeah, let's do
like seriously, we can. I'd love to we can at
least get it, throw a line in the water and
see what happens on that. Well. As I mentioned earlier,
this this show good Company is all about good people. Man.
You're a great dude, Jimmy Allen, and uh, I'm excited
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for you. I'm excited for your music. I'm excited for
you to watch your kid grow up and be a
dad and him see you be successful. And as you
mentioned earlier, you said you're gonna keep grinding and do
your thing. You've been doing it already, man, from living
in a damn car to now you know you're still
in a van. So before that, I can't wait for
you to call me, dude, I'm in a sprinter bro. Yeah,
I've got a bus bush for on behalf of me
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and everybody that's been following this podcast, Man, We're This
has been a really cool talk with you, and I've
had a lot of people on here, but just you're
like just the vibe you give off and it exudes
out of you. It's like, dude, you're very positive man,
And I hope you never lose that. I hope you
keep that. I'm excited to fly with you tomorrow, Milton.
And if there's anything else you want to say to
the folks out there where you know what what what
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they can do for your what you can do for them,
y'all listen here and call all your local COUNTROM radio
stations and request Jimmy, how was Jack you and Diane
by Jacob it's just number one. Let's see, that's why
you're a good guy man, number one. Well, thank you
all for tuning in. Jimmy Allen, make sure you go
check out his song best Shot. And yeah j I
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M M I E and uh A L L E
N right, that's right. We just we gave you that
plug boom boom. All right, y'all, it's been good company.
Jimmy is definitely a good company on behalf of me
and everybody out there. We'll catch you in a couple
of tuesdays. Wool for you.
Hey, this is Jake going and this is Good Company.
Good Company. Welcome to Good Company, a podcast where we
talk about everything under the sun, friends, good times company.
Now here's your host. Yo, yo yo. What's up, Boys
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and girls, ladies and gentlemen. It's Jake. I am back
with another episode of Good Company. You guys, knowing Good
Companies all about it's about having people on here that
are interesting, that are good people, and they've got great stories.
And we have exactly that today. Got my buddy Jimmy
Allen on here. What's up, dude, dude just happened to
be here. This sends out today the man from Milton
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where it all happens. Hot band a country music. Yeah.
This Uh, this has been a really kind of serendipitous thing. Um,
it's been I guess, I don't know. A few weeks
back Jimmy text me and said, hey, man, you're gonna
be a Delaware I think I wanna be at that show,
so he said, I said, come out, man, it'd be
good to see you. Well. Last night, before I went
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to do a charity event with um Lee Bryce for
the Folds of Honor and some other folks, I stopped
off to have a little margart rita at a at
a local Mexican establishment here in Nashville, and there was
old Jimmy Allen sitting at the bar, and so we
started talking and uh, he said, he's going he's leaving Wednesday.
I said, I'm leaving Wednesday, and thanks to my friends
(01:26):
with Sessna, we um we're flying there on on on
one of their planes. And I said, dude, you gotta
ride with us. So he's gonna hop on the plane
tomorrow and ridled us up to Milton. That's so, that's
your Like, I was born and raised right in Milton.
Tell me about Milton, Delaware, man, some Milton for people
don't know, it's in the state of Delaware. Yes, Delaware
is a state. Uh, it's it's just a little town. Man.
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Like when I left, it was like eight hundred people.
I think now people that like the influx gets up
to like two thousand during the summer because people were
so close to the beach, so people come in. But man,
we grew up my neighbor hood. The one side of
the streets corn fields, other side soybean fields and there's
like woods and trees behind the house. Man, So we
grew up pond fishing, ocean fishing, full wheeling, building bike ramps,
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building forts and then setting them on fire. I didn't
realize how unsafe that was, because we used to do
this thing called burning fort man, and we were like
like build forts and then you had to find other
person's fort and and burn it down and then shoot
a gun in the air at the no. I wasn't
safe at all, but you had to shoot the guns
so people can know you found the fort, and you
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had to run towards it for for like proof and stuff.
But it was fun, dude, it was a good time.
You look back on that and think about how how
fast time flies on. You still got buddies that all
live there. Yeah. Man, I'm my next door neighbor that
still lives in my childhood home in Milton. My next
door neighbor's dad still lives in that house. I got
other friends there, and I'm friends with all the kids
I grew up with. Man, like we're still friends, and so,
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you know, we talked a lot and try to catch um.
So I was. I was telling Jimmy earlier that one
of the reasons I wanted to have him on here
um and I ran into him yesterday. Not only did
I say, hey, hop on the plane, let's let's go
to Delaware, because he's he's You're playing the Delaware State
Fair the next day, the next day. So, um, we
just we have a lot in common, man, you kind
of being from a coastal town. I'm from a coastal town.
We're talking last night about fishing. You love to fish.
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I love to fish too. Um yeah, yeah, we're single dads. Man.
How old your your little boy and my little girl's five.
So there's just a lot, man, And I know we
kind of condense. He's down to like fifteen twenty minutes.
But there's so much I wanted to talk to you
about because you're just talking to you yesterday when you
were telling me about everything you're going through in this
career right now, in your news your new song best Shot,
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which by the way, is such a great song. Um,
I know how that is. Man. I was asking you
last night. I was like, as a new artist, how's
it been, How's how's this traveling around been? Because you
said you're not in a tour bus, you're trappling around
on a van. Are you? Are you starting to see
you on the road? Your song, Like people are really
starting to react because that's a sing along, like like
just a good man. It's starting to react. Man, I
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get um uh. People come up to me and say, hey,
they're using it as their first dance on their wedding.
Like someone sent me a video of this husband and
wife using this song as the first dance of their wedding.
So I invited them out to the opera tonight. So
I'm playing the operay, You're playing the opera tonight, and
I've landed them out. Man, what I want to start
and like that's what like when people say this song
touches them, I want to find a way, like to
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really connect with them. So if they're in Nashville, meet
them for coffee or just trying to you know. I
feel like music is so personal and it touches you.
So I feel like the least I can do is, like,
you know, if it happens to work out for them
and for me, like just just say hello, dude. That's
that's good company right there. That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I've really and it's hard to do. And
I will tell you, like I've always tried to maintain
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that attitude towards fans and people. People have always said
to me, They're like, how come you just invite random
people on your boat to go out? And I said,
because for me, it's not hard to do, and for
them it means the world. So songs like yours and
mean when they connect with people and you can connect
with them, especially in today's age, like with social media
and stuff whereas know, and that's what's funny is artists,
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when you get a record deal or you're just trying
to make it, what's the number one thing you want
to do. It's get your song out to as many
people as possible and connect with your fans. And now
we kind of have all these social media platforms, we
were able to connect with our fans even though we're
doing right now. I mean, we're having a podcast talking
directly to people that want to listen. So you have
an awesome story. You grew up Milton, Delaware, like you said,
And then when did you move to Nashville. I moved
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to Nashville in two thousand seven. And then when I
moved to Nashville two thousand seven, I had literally had
twenty one dollars in my bank account. I filled up
on credit the whole way downs. By the time I
got down here in my bank account was like negative
two hundred bucks. I worked at a gym and a
snack bar. I lived in the trailer for a little
bit with no electric. The lady sold the trailer, at
least that's what I was told she was selling the trailer. Really,
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you lift in your car. In the car for a
few months, um. Because I had promised, where did you
park that car? Man? Behind the gym, And there's a
business parking lot in Cool Springs. I used to park
there in the shaded by trees. I would park there.
I'd sleep from like twelve to about four thirty five
in the morning, go to the gym, U watch my
clothes at the gym hour. Um. Then I'd work my
my shift at the snack bar or whatever. And then
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I promised my little sister. I said, hey, if you're
getting you get good grades and getting this private school.
I helped pay for it so I could have got
an apartment sooner. Let the money I would have used
an apartment. I sent that home to my sister. And
then my friend moved down and then we got a
place together man and and and it was cool so
he did I jobs like I was a janitor one,
but I had the thing. I would never work a
job longer than eight months because I didn't want to
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get comfortable. So months seven, I would start feel out
applications for other jobs so I could leave for like
I did the whole Broadway thing, but I never played.
I didn't play Broadway longer than eight months, because you know,
it's easy to get sucked in and get comfortable and
lose sight of your vision, you know, man, loose loose
sight of your goal. And I and I never wanted
to uh to do that, man, so I just kept moving.
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Have you always been like that since you were a kid?
Were you in sports and competitive? That was super competitive? Broeh,
I'm very like you said. You got you guys all
John Anthony here is holding it now their boy Keith
Coufman as usual here in the podcast booth. But you
guys played like basketball every Tuesday, right man. It was
(07:06):
like Monday, Wednesday and Fridays. Man, we would hoop and
play you know, Courtland Finn again coming there and hoop
every nine again. And I would I might not win
every game, but I'm trying to win every game, of course,
but that's life, Like, we're not gonna win every time.
That's the thing people don't, you know, people have a
hard time accepting loss. But I think sometimes accepting loss,
which goes back to your story, man, like you've had
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a lot of times in your life where like probably
it looked like you were losing more than winning, but
you always gotta you said, you can't get comfortable, like
don't get comfortable in the loss, and you don't get
comfortable in the win. Always just you never find comfort
in anything other than chasing down what you're passionate and
because it was. Man, there's so many times, dude. I
remember I was laying there in my car on that
um I always slept, slept in the front seat. I
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would turn the heat on so the car would like
warm up and turn off, and had like a hoodie on,
some jeans and sweatpants and a blanket. I remember laying
in one night thinking to myself, what am I doing?
Like am I like wasting my lightful way? And then
I got my apartment. Things finally got going, and man,
I tell you, things really changed for me when I
had my son, because I quickly realized my goals didn't
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change but the way I approached him did like I
was smarter. I realized every decision I made, as far
as people I let in my life, affected him, every
decision I made. I didn't want to waste any more
time with my son, and I felt like my circle
got smaller and I really focused on what I needed,
what I really needed to do with with with music, man,
and I feel like I started writing the best songs
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ever because I had another It wasn't just for me anymore.
You know, Like I got this kid who's looking up
to me, and it's like I can't as a man
and as a father tell him to chase his dreams
if I give up on mind. So I need to, yes,
work two or three jobs to keep food on the table. Now,
everybody changed your dreams, but if you're a parent, still
do you need to do for a kid? Don't not
work and not make any money changing the dream? No,
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you busched your but work to three jobs if you
need to, but don't give up that Dreamyah, that's really
well have said, man. I mean with myself having a
little girl, I strive every day to be the best
dad I can be. And then there's those moments where
I catch myself not being that guy, you know, like
even and not necessarily when she's in front of me,
but when she's not around me, making decisions that could
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quite possibly affect her life is kind of scary to
me because we're all in this like weird bubble where
people are looking at you all the time and trying
to find ways to tear you down. And I just
don't ever want to make any sorts of decisions that
could affect her, even though I do it daily. And
the crazing is, you know, there's so like a daughter,
(09:38):
she's so harmless man. And it's like she's literally stuck
with whatever decision you know, that you make affects her,
it's there's nothing she can do about it. You know,
She's just stuck. And that's what really keeps me on
my toes now by my son. It's like, man, I
don't want to put him in a situation he can't
handle and that he shouldn't have to handle. Man, So
I always gotta you know, keep my crap together. Well
he'll always see that with you, man. I mean was
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talking about this last night, having being a single parent
and doing the back and fourth thing. You know, Um,
it's gotta be tough, because I know it is because
I I deal with it. But him seeing you work
as hard as you work, in the stories that you
that you'll tell him that you've gone through, um'll only
make him stronger as a kid. But did you bring
your dough? When I started doing for my son to
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really have him understanding so young, every city I go to,
I bring him something that's cool, whether it's a key chain,
whether it's a postcard, and trying to bring back postcards
to whether it's a T shirt. Dude, your son's gonna
have a lot of key chains. If I don't remember
my TM, help me remember, like I have like this
last trip right, so my my tour manager I brought
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I did a did an eight city running last week,
so I had I brought back eight things. And whether
it's like a little toy car or something, I bring
it back to him and say, hey, daddy got this
from here? Oh did you sing this song? Did you sing? Yeah?
And then it's a conversation starter. And then I started
a photo album for him, a physical photo album. And
you should start when everybody listening to start one. Create
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an email for your kids, like, um, I do one.
Just whatever your kid's name is blah blah at Gmail
and start sending videos and pictures of them when they're little, right,
And then every now and again I'll write my son emails,
and when he turned sixteen or eighteen, I'm gonna give
him the password that will have all like like pictures
and videos and like notes with them. Then when that
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one email writes out, say your kid is Ashley Parker,
Astley Parker at Gmail and Astley Parker one as Parker two.
That way, all that stuff is there and email, it's
not going nowhere. And then it's like a letter and
a booklet to them of their life when they when
they get older. Man. So yeah, that's really cool from
a movie movies. B Yeah, you're very well rounded though. Man,
I got a question for you, just I want to
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cut like straight to the base on this. I want
to ask you because where I grew up in Florida,
when I moved to town, I was along here a
guy and like everybody's like, you know about country music
here from Florida, right, well as for those that don't
out there like you're a black dude, I'm a black
guy yo yoa. But and I'm sure people have asked
you this before, but like like Myron in my band,
we were talking about last night, um in the country
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music format and even in today's world in society. I
had Myron on here, you know, we were talking about
that on the on the show. Even in today's world
two thousand and eighteen, there's still some ignorant people out there, right,
So how how has that been with like coming into
this format of country music that's predominantly throughout the year
has been more white dominant, no doubt. It's like I
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think five black guys total. But that's gotta be inspirational
for you too, but not just for you, for like,
for other kids and people out there. It's not only inspirational.
I think it's educational because you're you're you're showing people that, like,
stop being ignorant and forward. Like my dad told me, Man,
after I got my record deal, he's so excited. He said,
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you know what, Uh, you have the opportunity now to
when people years from when people talking about black guys
in country music. You're in the top four of the
first to do it. And he said, man, you're you're
you're you're motivating and and giving other kids that look
like me an example of hey, man, you can be
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this skin color and still do this, you know, because
it's so funny because I meet people from like the South, Flake,
Georgie and stuff. There's like there's country in Delaware. Yes, people,
there's country and every sing what got you? What got
you in the country? My dad, man, like my mom
is enough. I'm a Christian and my dad list nothing
but country music, like my dad, who's your dad? Love
Aaron Tipping and I ain't nothing wrong. My dad introduced
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me to country music through Aaron Tipping and me and
Aaron and friends. Now, so my opera debut, I reached
out to him. How jack does that guy? Dude? He's
still Jack For those of you all that don't know,
Aaron Tipping lifts weight. It's like seventeen times a day
and he is ripped. Great guy man, and he did
the opera with me. Then the day before the oppre
was so cool. They gave me and him a boat
and they filmed me and him like fishing for the day.
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So it was cool. Like for me, it was full
circle moment to where I'm about to play the opery
and I'm hanging out with the guy that his music
introduced me to country music. My dad was used my
coming genie fan. I got to become friends with t Roy.
It's been cool. Man. So you know, being a black
guy in the john at first, of course, you know,
you always get the you get those those so you shoot,
so shoot you. So what do you know about country?
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You mean? I was born and raising and I look
at country music like Christian music. It's more about the
lifestyle of the person. Like because it's for me, countries
about your morals, how you were raised, where you were raised.
I feel like, to me, that's what makes you come,
what you believe, that's what makes you. That's feel like,
that's what makes you country the same way I look
at Christian music, man, and it's like, remember, I took
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my band and my manager Ash back to Delaware last
year and it was like, is it really country out there? So, oh,
you'll see him. About fourteen hours we got there, they
were like, WHOA. I tried to I tried to tell you,
but man, again, it comes back to my competitive side.
I don't mind. I don't mind standing out bro like
you kind of like having that little like something against you.
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I feel like you work harder, you work I feel
like a lot haters fuel me, bro like it really does,
Like I don't know, having people say you can't do this,
you can't do this, I'm gonna do it anyway, dude.
I'm gonna tell you right now. I just based off
your the way you talk and your passion for what
you're doing, I can tell you forget the people to
say you're not going to do it, because I can
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tell you right now you're gonna do it. I can
just tell by not only yeah, your song the Best
Shot is awesome, you sound amazing singing it, but just
your your passion and drive for wanting to do this
like zuds out of you. And that's why yesterday when
I was talking to you at the bar, I was like,
wait a second, you want to come on my podcast tomorrow?
Because yeah, because that's what again, like, this show for
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me kind of came about in a very random way.
Um thankful, thankfully to Bobby Bones he has this podcast
network and said, hey, man, I think you've got a
lot to talk about, a lot to say, And I said,
what do you mean? He said, I've just always enjoyed
the way that you want to talk about the positive
sides of things and really talk to people on a level,
because I know when I did his podcast, We Got
Real Man, it was one of the most real podcasts,
and he told me that he's ever done because I
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talked to him on some things that most people wouldn't
talk to him about. And um, I love sharing stories
like yours. So it's a big deal man, to have
people want real bro Like That's how it was when
me and Bible were there, Like we talked about both
like living on food stance for a while, and people
want real people want to be connected. That's all to me.
Social media just continues to show people want connected. They
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want to meet and feel other people that feel like them.
They want to know that they're not alone and whatever
it is they're going through. And for me, I was like,
the more we can give them, yeah to feel good songs,
but every now again, man, if we can give them
some songs and some stuff that really strikes a chord
with them, That's why for me, it's an honor. When
that couple sent me a video on Facebook of them dancing,
their first dance was my song. I'm like, from the
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rest of their life, when they hear my song, they
remember their first dance and when they remember their first
dance and remember my song, I feel like that's when
music really makes a connect. And and and that's I feel
like the kind of songs I want to make. Yeah,
I'm gonna have the Yeah girl, you look good at
them cut offs. Hey, you gotta had a good stuff. Man,
when I feel like every now and again, man, you
gotta give him something that's gonna stick forever with some substance. Bro.
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And And I don't know if I ever told you, Man,
I've been a huge fan of just for years, bro,
like like years. Man. So for me, Man, it's a
it's just been an honor to to one to meet you.
And you know, I'm looking forward to this trip tomorrow
hanging out and like watching play man. And so it's
it's been, Uh, it's been cool to see because like
you told me, you're joining You said it, well seven
years for you got your first number one. I remember,
I've I've followed your career since the you know, since
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the beginning, man, And to see you find a way
to you know, stay relevant in an industry that's forever changing,
and just you know, it's funny. It's funny. I recently
changed record labels and I'm now with Big Loud Records.
But I was with Sony for eleven or twelve years.
In the last couple of years of Sony and do
to some um you know, head changes at the top um,
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I kind of lost maybe a little momentum because of
maybe just their interests in me. They didn't they weren't
that connected with me. I wasn't signed by them. They
were signing new people, and I kind of felt that.
But it's funny. I've been doing these radio interviews the
last couple of days to hopefully get my song to
hit number one, and a lot of there are guys
on the radio like, God, Jake, it's so good to
have you back on the radio. I know they mean that,
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and it makes me feel good that they say that.
But I'm like, wait a second, man, Like I didn't
go anywhere, I've still been here. And so that's what
you'll always have to understand, is is that when things
are good, they're good, and when things are slow, people
to have a real in this business especially, they're real
quick to kind of just move on to the next.
So you always like your your tenacity that you have,
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you can never lose that and always the same way,
whether it's your tenacity for your work ethic and working hard,
or whether it's what you said about this guy and girl,
they're gonna come to the operating now, take care of people,
to take care of you, and always be there for him,
because there's gonna it ain't always gonna be you know,
it's not. It's not man and and and that's my
my thing. Man. I feel like we, you know, as artists,
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we definitely gotta find ways to stay cool, stay relevant.
What I started doing now might be weird, but I've
noticed nobody does meet and greets at the opery, you
know what I mean. So what I'm gonna start doing
I did in my front my debut. At the end
of the show, I go to the front and just
hang out and meet people. And I'm gonna do it
tonight and every because I realized so many people come
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to the opery and never see that artists performing again,
Like some people don't go to shows, They just operates
only chance they get. So I'm like, man, these people
are spending our harder on money to come to the opery.
I can go out front and hang out for about
forty five minutes, so it was. It was it got crazy,
like I didn't know that mean people are gonna want
to say hi, and I thought I was gonna blend
in him. But you know, yeah, because I even changed
(19:53):
my shirt and didn't think anybody would recognize me. But yeah,
but now, man, now I'm I want to be intentional
about meeting people on purpose us. You know, So tonight
after the operate, I'm gonna be hanging out out front.
Every time I played the Opery, I must spend at
least forty five minutes. Well, I know for a fact
that they appreciate that that the opery as as the
as the you know, the everybody there that runs the opery,
but all the fans that are coming out and as
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you as you said earlier, you asked me when this
podcast comes out, this will be out today. So anybody
that's listening, um it lives here in Nashville, wants to
go out to the operay and it has a chancet.
I'll be wearing black skinny jeans, black boots, and I'll
be the black guy in them. That's awesome. You're gonna
be singing best Man. I'm singing best shot. Um singing
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a song called warrior. I read about my mother and
my grandmam and and and Blue Jean Baby, and when
you're talking about you know how people are so ready
to move on that my labels let me do this
thing called slower lower sessions where each month I'm releasing
a new song that's not on the album. So I
released already four got another one coming next month, the
album of fourteen all new songs coming in October. Then
(20:58):
we're skipping November in December for the next five months
on right back to one new song a month. Good.
So they're let me just like flood the market because man,
listeners want songs. Not only that, but the way, the
antiquated ways, And I'm so glad you said that, because
the antiquated way that a lot of people are doing
it for a while is is you know, a lot
of label heads and presidents were saying, oh, we don't
want to put on any other music because it'll so
call cannibalize your song that's on the radio. But all
(21:20):
you're doing is when people start feeding on what you're
giving them, they want more. So instead of making them
wait for forty weeks. You know what I mean, because
I saw you in March. I guess it was was
that in March when we did the thing for I
Heart Radio and we both had our songs. Weade we're
talking about this last night. Um, your song now is
like what you said the low thirties or something I
(21:41):
think it was. And if I was a new artist
like yourself. And I hate to say new artists because
you've been here and done this for a long time,
but you know in the in the world's eyes and
the new artists, so I'd be right there with you.
I feel lucky enough after all these years to build
relationships and momentum that now I'm sitting here near in
number one on and you're sitting at thirty and our
(22:02):
songs came out at the same time, and that kind
of goes to show people out there it's not as
easy as you think. You gotta put your time in
and grind, but dude, and it shows like your your
your proof that if I work hard enough, long enough,
eventually I'll get lucky and I'll get to that point.
So I get so excited like when you saw you
like I watched I saw your song climbing the charts man,
(22:22):
and it's a great song. Was so happy for you,
because to me, it's proof that man, you've worked so
long and you're at the point where you deserve a
first listen. If it's between a Jake Owen song, it's
a smash. Whether it's a smash or not, you've you've
earned your spot in country music to where you take
precedent over myself and any other artists out there. That's
a new artist. Man, you deserve that spot, bro. So
(22:44):
it's been a pleasure, man, just just meeting you and
getting to know you and watching your song get the
credit it deserves. Bro. Thanks dude, that's very nice for
you to say that, But I do I will go
back and maybe disagree with you for just a little
bit because I do believe this and I think you
will see it with your music as go forward. Is that, man,
we have this ability as singers and songwriters too. If
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you find that right song the minute it's finished and
you give it to the people, if it is the
song that they want, like, they're gonna get it and
they're gonna make that song will fly. It's like I
saw it with Barefoot Blue j Night. I mean, people
kept saying, I mean, and I've had hits I had
songs that went top five, number two, whatever. But until
you have that like career song where instantly people are
(23:26):
like whoa, they start taking you more seriously or something
for some reason, and you're you're gonna have that, man,
and so get ready for that is the song I
want to sing with you? What's that Barefoot? Come on, dude,
you want to do it in Milton, let's do It'll
be all right. We that'd be cool to have you
out there. It's your hometown. You have some friends, come out, dude.
I got like because like they're huge fans of years
down there, man, and I'm still friends with my kindergarten teacher.
(23:47):
Will be there, my first kid teaching. I got a
bunch of friends and family, but I probably know everybody
in the audience. Honestly, we'll be there like maday, man,
let's go fishing or song dude, like I'm down, like
you know you know what the mixer Jeff Jeff Juliana. Yeah,
he texted me. I was like, Yo, I'm coming with Jake.
He said he's got his boat. He said, we'll go fishing.
I love so like we can literally land. I don't
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know if you gotta go, you gotta go sound check.
But yeah, you pay people to that. Yeah, let's do
like seriously, we can. I'd love to we can at
least get it, throw a line in the water and
see what happens on that. Well. As I mentioned earlier,
this this show good Company is all about good people. Man.
You're a great dude, Jimmy Allen, and uh, I'm excited
(24:27):
for you. I'm excited for your music. I'm excited for
you to watch your kid grow up and be a
dad and him see you be successful. And as you
mentioned earlier, you said you're gonna keep grinding and do
your thing. You've been doing it already, man, from living
in a damn car to now you know you're still
in a van. So before that, I can't wait for
you to call me, dude, I'm in a sprinter bro. Yeah,
I've got a bus bush for on behalf of me
(24:51):
and everybody that's been following this podcast, Man, We're This
has been a really cool talk with you, and I've
had a lot of people on here, but just you're
like just the vibe you give off and it exudes
out of you. It's like, dude, you're very positive man,
And I hope you never lose that. I hope you
keep that. I'm excited to fly with you tomorrow, Milton.
And if there's anything else you want to say to
the folks out there where you know what what what
(25:13):
they can do for your what you can do for them,
y'all listen here and call all your local COUNTROM radio
stations and request Jimmy, how was Jack you and Diane
by Jacob it's just number one. Let's see, that's why
you're a good guy man, number one. Well, thank you
all for tuning in. Jimmy Allen, make sure you go
check out his song best Shot. And yeah j I
(25:36):
M M I E and uh A L L E
N right, that's right. We just we gave you that
plug boom boom. All right, y'all, it's been good company.
Jimmy is definitely a good company on behalf of me
and everybody out there. We'll catch you in a couple
of tuesdays. Wool for you.
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