March 29, 2018 • 39 mins
Jake dials up Momma.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Jake going and this is Good Company,
Good Company. Welcome to Good Company, a podcast where we
talk about everything under the sun, friends, good times, and
like com Now here's your host. Hello, yo, mom, yo, Jake.
(00:30):
What are you doing? What's up? Not much, not much,
just sitting here enjoying this beautiful sunshine. I've been waiting
on sunshine for a while up here, we all have.
It's been raining and uh overcast. Really springtime is here,
so we're ready to uh right, well, good weather and
(00:52):
it will come here. It's beautiful here. It's absolutely beautiful
sunshine e the wind blowing a little bit, but it's
just so pretty outside, gorgeous. I should be at the beach, Yeah,
that's that's where I'd like to be actually right now.
But I am sitting at um at the label here,
the new label, Big Loud Records here right on sixteenth Avenue.
(01:15):
I'm looking out at the cars going by. We're just
laughing a minute ago talking about how this town, you know,
it seems like no matter where you look, people are
hustling to get get music going and and get things happening,
and people writing songs, pitching songs, making records and making videos,
I know I called earlier and told you that, um,
we just finished up my video for I was Jack
(01:37):
and you were Diane. So I'm excited to uh send
you a private link too so you can view that.
I know you've seen many videos of mine throughout the years. Yeah,
I can't wait and send it. I'm anxious. I was
wondering when you're gonna sh it up because I haven't
heard that much about it. You just told me it
was great, but you didn't didn't give me any details.
So I want to see it. Send it my way.
I'm excited. I'm excited for everybody out there to uh
(02:00):
to see the video. But I'm I'm speaking of being excited. Mom.
You I should have. I'm surprised I haven't had you
on sooner on this Good Company podcast, but I've had
everybody in the family, it seems, and and you especially
with me being a and I'm totally okay saying this
to the world, but I mean, I'm cool being a
mama's boy. I love you, Mom, and you and I
(02:21):
have always had a special connection. And you know, I
I look back on life and and uh, I think
about the times where you and I were Jared, my
twin brother. Obviously that those out there have heard Jared
on this podcast. He was one of the first that
we had on the on the night back in the
day when your kids growing up. If it was Monday night,
(02:43):
Monday Night football was on. I've always said Jared would
be sitting right there on the right there on the
couch with dad watching Monday night football, eat and popcorn.
And it seems like you and I would be, uh
be in the kitchen or something, watercolor painting or something
like that. You had you had the creative Yeah, I
always like the creative bug, and I never wanted to
(03:04):
you sitting there and by yourself, So I like picked
up a lot of my creativity from you. Oh well,
you were so creative and that was always fun for
me because the roles in the house, I needed somebody
to come play with me every now and then. So
you would throw me a bone and come over and
paint or asked me what I was doing. And you know,
it was always fun to have your company or special.
(03:25):
I'll love you so much and both of you boys
were just so much fun growing up. I was thinking
about that today, how much fun it was just to
have twin boys running around keeping me on my feet
and laughing all day long. Yeah, so if you don't mind,
I mean, we'll get right into it. I usually like to,
you know, make these podcasts more of a conversation than
(03:48):
some sort of you know, interview. But I uh, with
that said, I think what I wanted to ask you
was is having two boys and twins. If you don't
mind your side of the story on on how you
even knew you were having to win, Well, um, I
just I sensed it from the very beginning. But you know,
(04:08):
I had never been pregnant before, so I didn't really
know when the doctors kept saying, no, it's only one,
it's gonna be a big baby, and you've just never
been pregnant before, and I just knew it. And but
long story short, the day we delivered, um, Jared popped
out first and they had the fetal monitor on and everything.
(04:30):
You know, they should have known. But um, as soon
as Jared was born, as I'm sure everybody's heard that
story before, but they said there's at least one more,
and UM, a few minutes later, here you came. So
I just wanted to scream I told you so to everyone.
But I had three doctors, and all three of them
kept saying, no, there was only one. Was a surprise
(04:53):
to everybody. Well, yeah, you were. You were surprised to
everybody else that It was so funny because the night
before I was speaking to a friend of mine and
I said, I just know there are two babies in
my stomach. And so when she got the call that
that we had had twins, she said, she just got
chill bumps all over. But I guess mom to know.
I mean, I was huge, obviously, and um, you were
(05:15):
both so healthy, and I was so fortunate in that
regard that you were both healthy. And I just had
to stay in the hospital a few extra days because
you didn't have names, and we didn't have an extra
crib or an extra carcity to get you home, and
so we had to um do some scrambling. But it
was all worth it, and y'all been great. I loved
I loved every minute of it. If I would have
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gotten pregnant again, I used to tell Dad that if
um we would have had any more, I would have
wanted to have twin boys. Actually now I wish I
would have had twin girls. But at the time you
all were so much fun. I couldn't imagine having anything
but boys. Well you were pretty awesome mom growing up
me twin boys, with Jared and I being as active
(05:57):
as we were sports and you know, whatever it was
you were, you tend you were driving us all over
the place. And uh, I know you mentioned before from
the time we were little kids, how it was just
getting used to one of us crying and being hungry
and the other one sleeping, And just about the time
you get one of us down the other way, the
other one would would, uh start crying. So I can't
(06:19):
imagine having twins. Yeah, I know, you know, I didn't
know any difference. So that was a good thing. And
you just you do what you have to do, and
that was right. We brought you home, and you know,
we would just get Jared down and all of a sudden,
your little head would pop up and so that little
and I thought, oh no, just give us ten minutes.
(06:42):
But I mean, honestly, I don't know how we got
through those those first few months, because I think it's just,
you know, God just gives you the strength to get
through it. Because you guys were around the clock, um,
and you know, you were kind of on the same schedule,
but you had to feed one and then others. So
by the time I got back to sleep and Dad
(07:02):
got back to sleep, it was time to start all over.
But yeah, we did it, and and you know, we
survived it. So I don't know, I don't know. I
think it's youth. I think that has a lot to
do with it too, in excitement and all of that.
But you soon got on the same schedules and and
then it became fine when you had twins there in
(07:24):
the hospital that day that dad really put both of
us into a stroller and ran us out into the
waiting room when he was he he did. He left me,
He left me, took my baby. He took your babies
and ran down the hag he took my babies. He
left me In this operating room, they were ringing bells
(07:45):
and whistles to bring in extra plasma, and I thought,
oh my gosh, what's wrong, you know, And and he's
screaming and jumping up and down, and I remember him saying,
it's another boy, it's another boy. And he looks just
like me. He was so exciting. I mean, I had
just saw two babies. I know, a good job, good jobs.
(08:10):
He was there that he was there the whole cell time.
It was Missy by the way, that's why as mits
And it's really funny Mom, other than um than my
cousin Mitsy, that's I believe you know, named after you.
Obviously your brother had had had Missy. But I'm not
too many Missis in life. And as much as I travel, um,
(08:30):
I've not met very many Missi's uh maybe three in
my life. But there's definitely no missies like you out there. Mom. Thanks, thanks, well,
there are a few thouse I run into Asi and
then mostly people named their little dogs. Every time you
tell them they're not your name, they get I like
used to have a little or whatever named Mitsy, So
(08:53):
I get I get more dogs than name miss you,
than people. My dad loved Missy gane or back in
the day and so um, I think that's how I
got my name. And unfortunately, to his disappointment, I can't
sing or dance, so all I got was Mr Gainer thing.
That's a great segue actually, um the end of your dad. Um,
(09:13):
I never got to meet your dad. I uh something
in my life that I always when people asked me
if I could meet anyone, I always say well, I
wish I could have met my granddad, which was your father.
And right, he went by Jake, correct, right, he did.
His closest friends called him Jake, which you know, in
a small town, he had so many friends, so he
(09:35):
went his name was John Crawford, and he either went
by j C or Jake. But I just remember his
closest friends, Dr Green and all of his you know,
all of his buddies on the golf course, they all
called him. They all called him Jake. So that's a
good name for you. Yeah, and and and and that's
really as you know, and you'll probably laugh telling the story. Um.
(09:57):
One of the reasons I wanted to have my mom
on this podcast is, uh, your story as to how
I ended up in Nashville and how everything happened. I mean,
I've told my story a bunch of times, but hearing
the story come from you, the mother, and also my
my shotgun writer. On the way up, he popped in
the Toyota Forerunner with me when I left um Tallahassee,
(10:22):
and I talked to Dad on the phone. I had
Dad tell the story about how I called you guys
on the phone and and said I wanted to drop
out of college, even though that was the last thing.
You're probably thinking what I called. But um, when I said, hey, look,
I'm not talking about waiting a while. I'm talking about
leaving pretty soon, like in the next couple of days
and moving up there. Um, you were so supportive and
(10:44):
as much as you were probably scared, you Tallahassee and
you've got in. Um got in my forerunner with me
and we picked up a U haul trailer the wrong
way if you remember correctly. Because uh, that was so funny.
That was of my I think one of my favorite memories.
I really do, and I think back on it all
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the time because I wasn't nervous. Excuse me, my thread
up the allergies down here, there's still pollens everywhere. But um,
it was so fun I mean I was nervous about it.
I couldn't believe that Dad had really giving you his
blessing the night before or a couple of nights before
or whatever. But once I knew you were doing it,
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I was really excited for you and nervous, you know,
as a mother, you're nervous at the same time because
we knew nothing about Nashville. We knew no one in Nashville.
You knew no one in Nashville, and it was just scary.
And I thought, I didn't want you know, you never
want to see disappointment for your children. Um, And I
knew that that the chances of you going up there
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and and coming right back home and a little bit
we're pretty high, and I didn't want your dreams to
be put out. And I don't know, I just had
all those thoughts in my mind. And because you were
so confident in were so determined, and it was what
you wanted. So back to your story, we go up there,
(12:07):
Steve said, your dad said, going up and help him
get packed up, and white up with him. And you
remember you had you had rented the apartment online. You've
done everything. I mean, I've gone online already and rented
that apartment that we eventually made it to. Getting back,
you haul trailer the wrong way. We couldn't go over
thirty five. It felt like without that that was so funny,
(12:29):
just bouncing back and forth but behind us, swaying side
to side. Um, we packed it wrong. And I had
a little car, remember, and you were driving it and
you your head, you felt like your head was going
out of the sunroof, and I just remember that we were,
I don't know how far from Nashville we were. That
seemed like we had been on the road for four
and a half days. And and you slammed your hands
(12:51):
on the steering wheel, and you looked at me and
you said we were going forty miles an hour, and
we had gone that that forty all the hours from
tallahasting and that the trailer was slaying back and fullth
and I think half the things in it were broken,
if you remember whenever we got there. But we got there,
but I remember vividly with you sitting there right next
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to me in the in the passenger seat, coming up north.
The minute that I saw the sign that said Nashville
and we rode in. I saw the big bat Tower,
which is, you know, our quintessential UM most you know,
it's it's the the skyline for Nashville. UM. We eventually
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made it to that apartment that I had rented online.
And once we got out and walked up to that
apartment is when I think it hit you and you
started realizing you're a little bit cleary as to whether
or not I should stay there or not. Right it
was midnight it was dark and this apartment, if you remember,
(13:57):
you had to kind of go down under and and
it I don't know, it just didn't feel right. So
we decided to move on from there. But then what
the next day or two, we were just driving around
and do you remember pulling that um you haul down
Music Row? Do you remember that We were just laughing
and we were calling there was a wedding going on
(14:18):
and that we had, you know, Sally Fish, your Marty Fish,
your friends. They were Sally Marty's mom was there at
the wedding, and remember we were calling her and saying, oh,
I was you weren't You didn't care. You knew you
would find someplace eventually. But I was trying to get
some advice and said, asked these people who were from Nashville,
where's a good place to live? I mean, And then
it just hit me that what are we doing? What
(14:41):
are you doing? And I just it was a nervous time,
it was, but it as it all turned out, we
found a great place and we got all news that.
I mean, I know you as a mother and that's
what I always uh appreciate and loved about you. Mom.
But looking back on that, if you were really on
a with yourself and me, even though you probably don't
(15:02):
want to tell me at the time you drove me
up there. I mean, if you put it in a
percentage chance that you thought that all these years later,
if you know, thirteen years later, I would have done
what I've done, and and we've had the experiences that
not only I've had, but that we've been able to
share as a family. Um, what would you did you?
I mean, did you think that would happen? I mean,
(15:23):
I mean if you have a pretty good intuition as
a mother. So I was wondering what I've never really
asked you that. Well, you know, it's funny, like I say,
I was mixed because I truly did believe in you,
because I saw how hard you worked and how passionate
you were at Florida State. When you were there, I
I knew that you had it in you to go
(15:44):
up there and follow your dream. I knew that, but
knowing nothing about the music business. And you know, now
I'm looking back, I really realized how much I didn't
know and how slim your chances were getting the way.
That's a good thing that But do you remember do
you remember when we pulled into that hotel and we
(16:06):
were unloading a suitcase and that man walked up to you.
Do you remember, well, I didn't know he was homeless
or who he was, but he said who are you?
And you said your name right right? And you said
your name, and I wasn't thinking anything. You just I thought, wow,
I'm why is this man asking him who he is?
And then it dawned on me that it was probably
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because you had a guitar and maybe people were looking
thinking that you were somebody. And he said and then
he remember, he said no, who are you? And you
told him your name again and he he said, no,
you're somebody and you you said, no, sir, I'm just here.
I'm just a nation moved here. I'm just I'm just
getting here, all right. And he said, well, you're going
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to be somebody. Do you remember that? I I've got
chill ups because remember we we looked at each other.
You remember when we went downtown on Broadway because I
wanted to get a shirt. There's something cool to wear?
You remember apart when I moved to Nashville and that guy,
when we walked in that store down on Broadway, said, uh,
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did you find yourself a good church to go, I remember,
and I told him, yeah, I hadn't. I haven't found
one yet, and he said, well, there's plenty of them,
and that's that's important. I know. I love that. It
made me feel well. It just made me feel good
that someone, especially down there on Broadway, would I would
bring that up to you. But at the same time
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it I remember that section, that section of time that
when we first went down to Broadway. That's when I
got to tit in my stomach because I thought, oh,
I just thought, is he going to be sitting here
with those roads inside, uh like Broadway musicians on the
street corners, Yeah, with the guitar cases open, and they
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were kind of just sitting there, and I thought, what,
they probably loved what they do and they're happy, happy
doing it. But you know, I just I got I
got really concerned in I think I did a little
bit and that that's the moment. And then when the
man said that about finding the church, I thought, oh,
my goodness, you know what one am I leaving my
son too? But again, I really I knew by that
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time at Florida State that you you were pretty passionate
about it, and I thought that you were really good
because we had hurt you a few times at Florida State.
And I was impressed. And but that was that was
a funny story too. If you remember when the first
time we saw you when we went up to um
watch Jared play a tennis tournament and he asked us
if we were gonna go see you, and we said,
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they go see you play and we said play? What
he said, Dad, Mom, he's really good his guitar. And
we just looked at him, like, because you hadn't really
told us that you have been spending more time playing
guitar than you had going to class, and um, he said,
you were playing at pot Belly. So we all went
over to pot Bellies and I expected to see you
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just you know, playing on a stool like you did
at home, and you know a few people there, and
it was so funny because that band was inside and
you were outside and you had a humongous crowl around you,
and Dad and I just looked at each other and
just shook our heads like how do we miss this?
You know, where did this come from? How do we
miss it? But it was it was exciting, So I
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didn't know you. I knew you had it in you,
and it was I was amazed. If you remember getting
back to your your dad and I spoke about that
I didn't get to meet that. His name Jake Um
moving to town at the time, Josh Turner was on
the radio. On the radio, my given birth name was
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obviously Josh and Um. There was just a part of
me that at the time, I had this feeling that
I said, I don't I don't know if I want
to go by Josh and just be another Josh up here.
So h and Josh Owen had just one Nashville Star
was great. It was on Nashville Star. Um, and so
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my middle nation was is Ryan, So maybe I'll go
by j R. And Uh. The first few people we
met in Nashville, I was I was just bound and
determined to just start start my name right then and there.
And I remember this guy you couldn't even look at
each other, buddy David, that that helped us move in. Uh,
David Andrews shout out to David Sanders. He's out in
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Texas now, but he helped me move my stuff in.
He said, what's your name in? And I quickly like
looked at you and I looked at him, I said
j R. And you started laughing, crying. You're like laughing
so hard. How could I tell somebody my name was JR.
When I've been Josh my whole life. But by the
time I got moved in. Later that night, I went
down by the pool and there were some people out
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by the pool that we were just meeting, and they said,
what's your name? And I said, my name is Jake.
And that day of looking at me like I thought,
you said her name was j R. And I wanted
to say, man, I'm still figuring this out right now,
all right, but I don't remember that it was so
funny because you didn't you felt funny. I think changing
your name somebody my name was something it wasn't, but
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I know in for it, and uh, you know the
years later taking your dad's name, and it's made a
lot of sense. And what's interesting is is you think
about all the years I've had a record deal now
and I've never I haven't met any other country artists
come up named Jake. I know, I know that that
is so funny. And I think it's also interesting because honestly, um,
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your granddad that you never met Jake j C. And
he loved country music so much and when used to ride,
so yeah, I can tell you everybody what your dad did.
Um growing up well in City, Florida. We're all Floridians,
So Haines City at the time predominantly was driven by
the citrus industry, right right, and that dad was in
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the citrus business. And I just remember he just loved
country music. And of course this was in the early
seven you know, well, late sixties, early seventies, when I
was in my team and I wasn't listening to country music.
We were listening to the Beatles and Rolling Stones and
and yeah, that's that's what we were listening to. And
he would wholly captive. We would go out and I
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would drive with them sometimes out to the grove, and
he goes, this is pretty music. This is real music.
And he he knew that I didn't like it because
I thought the teenager and I'm, you know, want to
listen to my stuff. He would not change the channel.
He would always listen to it. And and I, you know,
I I remembered the songs, so I didn't ever pay
attention to who sang them or or anything like that.
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But they always reminded me of my daddy, you know,
when I heard them as I got older and you know,
got more into the country. But I'll never forget that.
Um you sitting back there in the study when you
were playing your guitar and learning the different songs, and
I don't even remember which song it was, but I
came around you do. Probably I think it was a
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Merle Haggard song. But whatever, if you said that, I
would know it, because, like I said, I didn't know
the names of the songs then. But you started playing
this song. And of course, my dad passed away when
he was forty nine, and so this was several years later,
and you started playing a song that just gave me
chilled because I thought, and my deah, how you love
that song and that you just you just reminded me
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of him. And that's why I really wish that you
could have met him, and then he could have met you,
because I think of all the people, he would have
gotten a huge kick. First of all, he was a character,
and he would have been bragging on you and you know,
kidding you about your songs and your hair and everything else.
But you know, yeah, yeah, you know that, Uh. I
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asked some people some questions on Twitter earlier, I said
that I was gonna have you on my podcast and
asked me, yeah, you blame me and I Well, no,
I I said, asked me some questions that you might
want to ask my mom, and one of the main
main questions was, um, how you how you like my hair?
Considering I told people I was cutting it because you
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were asking me, so I got all the blame for that. Um,
I love your hair. I really like your hair short.
I liked it longer. I did like it long at times.
I didn't like it really long when it got scraggly,
and I don't know, I didn't like it when it
got too long. I like it. I think it shows
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your face off better and I like it. However, I
will tell you that your aunt Debbie is in disagreement.
She wanted it, she literally wrote me and it is
it too late to call Jake and tell him my
vote for the flow? And I said, he's already cut.
It's it's either short or long, but there's no one
in between. So getting to the long length you have
(24:37):
to go through some serious weird weird Uh. I agree
with you, Yeah, I agree with you. I think, Yeah,
you're a grown up. Yeah, you've had you've had the
long hair. Now what other questions do I have for
you here? That says Crystal Um. Crystal cruisick Um says, uh,
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does your mom ever try to set you up on dates? No?
I don't. I don't think so. Do you think? I
don't think so. I don't think I've ever ask your
mom if she expects you to get married again and
if there is a special someone in your life. Ah.
(25:23):
Oh do you want me to answer that one? Well,
I mean I definitely have a special sum of my
life that before. But um, and I would love for
you again, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I would love for you
to get married again. I think. I mean, I've been
married thirties eight years, seven years, and I love it,
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and I wish that for all my children. I want
them to have a happy marriage. And I wanted to,
you know, last, and I think you should. I think
you should grow old with someone. I think that's that's
a wonderful thing. Yes, I would love for you to
get married again. I'd love for you to get married
to someone that you truly love and and are happy
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with them. You can make them happy, and they can
make you happy, and I love the place in your
life where you are right now. And if you call
me a question for you, So, if I wasn't playing
music right now, and I'd never left to come to Nashville,
being you know, my mother and having motherly instincts, what
I don't think I would be doing right now? You know,
(26:30):
I like the place of that right now, what your
two sons will be doing? What would you what would
you have said? Then? Honestly, I will tell you this,
and I've said this to many people. I'm worried about it.
When we were when we all were in college, and
even you know, in your high school years being twins,
y'all were so like you were so different and I
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could have seen Jared in so many different areas. I mean,
I just could see him doing anything at that and
you would probably agree with that. And I could not
picture of what you would be doing, which is so
weird because I would have never thought you would be
doing what you're doing now. But I always tried to
do think I know you didn't. You changed your major
(27:13):
like how many different times? But I will say this,
you love you were creative and you loved words. You know,
you like you liked English. I'll remember that. And I
always felt like you would be some sort of a
writer or I feel like you would go that direction,
not so much a business direction as more of a
(27:34):
creative direction. I did feel that, and I did say
that early on, but I didn't know what that would
particularly be. Your nanny used to say you were going
to be a preacher, because if you remember, you carry
around that little green Bible whenever you were you were
two or three years old. You love that. That was
your favorite toy. But um, I guess in a way
you sort of are. You're out there preaching to the
crowds every night. But no, I honestly, I don't know.
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I couldn't answer that question because I I did feel
like it would be somewhere in the creative field. Well,
I think a lot of the people that I've talked
to on this show and talking with you, especially because
being a supportive mothers so important, there's a lot of
kids out there that may may listen to this, or
people that have kids that are listening that. Um, I
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think it's important that I point out the fact that
no matter what I was doing as a kid, I mean,
you had you had morals and values that you'd hope
that I had. Uh. You know, UH stood too and
and and and maintained. But you always were supportive of
what I was doing to the point where I felt like,
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if I ever failed doing it, I wasn't going to
disappoint you. Um. I never wanted to disappoint you, But
I never felt like if I chased something and failed
doing it, that you would ever be disappointed that I
didn't do it. And so I think gave me the confidence.
People I was asking where do you get your confidence from?
And I think it's so important to have people in
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your life like you and and Dad that we're always
supportive of me no matter what whether it worked out
or not. I mean, I look back on baseball games
we played as a kid, and if we didn't win
the baseball game, wasn't the end of the wasn't end
of the world. I mean, you and Dad were always
will get him next time, kid, you know. I mean
it's and I think learning from that has allowed me
throughout the years to uh to have the confidence that
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I have when people ask you, know, where do you
get your your confidence from? And UM, I think he
had you had to learn, you had to learn to win,
you had to learn to lose, and and we were you,
We were you were right, We were supportive and and
I think you would agree that. I mean, if you
ever did anything that maybe we felt like you shouldn't,
we would tell you. I mean, we didn't always tell
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you were the greatest, that you did everything perfectly and
it was okay, I think, And don't you agree with
that that if if, it's probably still happening. And there
are things that Dad and I don't particularly agree with
that we let you know. I mean, whether it makes
any difference or not now at your age, um another story.
But but I just think that we've just had that
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kind of a relationship when we support you because we
believe in you and we know that you're Oh, I
know where your heart is too. You wanted to you
wanted to succeed, and you wanted to do everything right
and you've tried your best, and honestly, no matter what,
you're right. We we support all of our kids that way.
And I think going back to those days in college,
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you guys used to laugh at me and say we're
not laugh You always say, well, I can't believe you're
out there, you know, all these people for free, and
why are you not getting paid for what you're doing?
And I remember always saying that, well, I think one
day people will pay me to do what I do.
But I never did this because I wanted to be
rich or wanted to be I know, you've always said
that because I loved it. But now that it's worked
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out and we got a few more minutes here, I
was going to just ask you a few other questions
that I have and some people have asked. But one
one question in particular that someone um someone asked on
Twitter that I found pretty interesting was was what is
the heart? What is the hardest part for you about
having a son that does what I do for a living.
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Everybody wants to hear the glamorous things. I've seen lots
of things on here, like what's you know? Someone says, uh,
you know, you know what's it did when you hit
it big? Did you do anything for your mom and dad?
Did you buy him a special gift like a car?
Taking my special vacation is what Mary Butler said, and
we know very shout out to Florida, Mary. Hey, Mary,
Yeah she asked that, But I mean you can get
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to that. I'm sure, if there's something that you that
you know that you feel like, but is there anything
you know? Sometimes people want to know the hard parts
about life. Everybody talks about the easy things, But what's
been the hardest thing for you? As the adjustment throughout
the years, having a son became, you know, somewhat in
the spotlight because Google alerts for your son, I'm still
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got him. I've still got him. I mean I did
that right right off the bat because someone told me
about Google alerts, and I've still got They still pop up,
and I mean, I do so many of us to
fill up my email. But I think the hardest two things,
the hardest part in the beginning and still now even
I mean, I'm I'm still tense and nervous every time
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a song comes out, or every time you're doing something
different and making changes or whatever did you're doing. I
you know, I want to I want you to find success,
I want you to be happy, and I always just
and that that makes me kind of nervous. But um,
I'm better off now than I used to be. Used
to really worry about that, and and I worried about
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you out on the road. I mean that was hard,
you know, I didn't know the business. I didn't know
what was going on, so that was a little bit hard.
I just worried about your safety and what was going on.
But as far as the way people treat me, he's
got the nicest and I'm not saying that you do
have the nicest fans, And I've met the nicest people
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because of you doing what you're doing. And I been
so surprised that is how normal. Everybody comes up and
talks to me and and treats me, and they're they're
very nice like that. And I would say that The
only one hard thing that I think Dad and I
both deal with is you know, as you know, if
it was possible, we'd give away five million tickets a
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year because you just I wish I had a bag
that I could go around because people don't really and
truly understand how all of that was. Been hard on
that problem, That's what I mean, really meant I shouldn't
shouldn't be even included fans and that, but um, just
people that you know, I mean, just acquainting this through town.
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They don't mean, they don't they don't even they don't
mean anything by it at all. But as I think
they think that we all have, you know, access to
everything that you do, whether it's you know, be the
Kenny Chesney to her that you were opening up for
when nobody had a clue who you were. I think
everybody thought, well, we'll call you know, his mom and
dad and we can get six tickets for the show.
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And as you know, it doesn't work that way. And
I and it was so hard to tell people no,
because I never didn't. I never want anyone to think
that we didn't. I want to help them because we
always do. As I said, if I had a bag
of tickets, I'd go around passing them all out. But
that that's been hard. And I know it's been hard
on you because we've we've called on you for so
many favors and you've been so gracious and helped us
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so many times. But I know that I know how
hard it must be on you because that's probably been
the hardest for us. Um, just that, but as far
as the way people treat us, I mean, people are
so complimentary and they're they're supportive and they're just as
happy for you as we are. And UM, it doesn't
mean I can't really say there's a negative there we're excited,
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we're proud of you, and as you know, I mean,
I get a kick out of it. I love it,
And um, I hope you're still playing when you're ninety five.
I don't. I guess I won't be here to see that,
but I hope I do. I hope you are. I
hope you know. You know. And closing on this that
I've told you this before, but you and Dad have
been so supportive of me, even in times where I'm
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sure you were scared. But uh, I mean, I've played
hundreds of shows that you and Dad and Jared and
the family has all come out to support me. And
you've heard me play the same songs and and and
seeing the same things over and over. But you continually
come out and support me. You have no idea how
much it makes me. I mean, it just if totally
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fulfills me knowing that you guys still support me. But um,
is there any go ahead? I don't mind. Yeah, I
was gonna. I did want to interject this that as
proud as we are of you, and how much we
love going to all the shows, and I still get
butterflies every time before you come out, and as exciting
as all of it is. I think what has brought
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Dad and I the most pleasure and pride is seeing
how you have conducted yourself and what you've done, not
only for for others around the country. I know how
giving you are and that you've been that way says
you were a little boy, you give everything you had um,
but what you've done for the town if you're a beach,
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and how supportive you've been. And I think that's why
everyone loves you so much here. It's because you have
given back and you let them know how much you
you love this town and what they've done for you.
And that makes us so proud. And you know that,
and I love you so much for that. You and
Jared both have been great kids, and we're blessed every
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day that we have you. So you make us proud,
and you're a good boy. You call home and make
us feel good every day. You've got two sons that
love you more than anything, and you're a great mom
or your great grandmother to my little girl, Pearl. She
I love that. If there's anybody out there listening right
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now that's Uh thinking about moving to Nashville, or not
even moving to Nashville, just thinking about making a life
change something that's seems a little scary. Um, is there
one piece of advice as we get out of here, mom,
is there one piece of advice that you can leave
us with from a mother's perspective that you would that
you think, uh, you know, you could you could share
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with those out there that, um, they kind of want
to leave this with a positive note. We try to
stay positive here on on good Company. That's what I
love about doing this, talking to people with great stories.
But I think it would be great to have you
leave us with a piece of your motherly advice and
uh take us out. Well, I would just say, as
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you said, be supportive. And it's not always easy, because
you will you never want to let your kids go
and you think you know better, but I think you've
just gotta gotta give your children their wings and you've
got to let him try and you've got to let
them fail. And your aunt Sarah had to tell me
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that when I was concerned about it, and that she
was so right because now I would tell anyone that
I would say, go for it and be supportive of
I mean, keep in touch. And I think that your
kids surprise you every day. And so I think that's
exactly what I would tell them. Let them, you trust
on them, believe in them, and sell your prayers for
them every day, and they'll probably surprise you and how
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accomplished they are. That is well said, Mom. I love you.
You know that, uh to me? And I always said
to you. You started it when I was a kid.
You said, I love you higher than the sky and
deep in the ocean, and uh, that's right, I do, Mom.
I love you very much. I'm thankful and I know
everyone out there that's listening to this podcast, I know
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that they're thankful that you're on here to today talking
to me. Um. You eat so much beauty to my
life and and a lot of others out there that
have met you, and thanks for being you. Thanks for
thanks for being yet one more person on the Good
Company podcast. It's definitely good company. I love you, Mom.
I love you too, Boggy anymore. You've done a great
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job today, So I'll call you later. We'll catch up, okay, alrighty, Well,
thanks thanks for calling. Thank you, Mom, I love you,
Get and everybody else out there, I love you all.
Thanks for tuning in. This has been Good Company with
Jake We're back every other Tuesday, and we'll see you
next time, and uh catch it in. We'll see you,
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see your mom. I love you, bye bye. I love
you too,
Hey, this is Jake going and this is Good Company,
Good Company. Welcome to Good Company, a podcast where we
talk about everything under the sun, friends, good times, and
like com Now here's your host. Hello, yo, mom, yo, Jake.
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What are you doing? What's up? Not much, not much,
just sitting here enjoying this beautiful sunshine. I've been waiting
on sunshine for a while up here, we all have.
It's been raining and uh overcast. Really springtime is here,
so we're ready to uh right, well, good weather and
(00:52):
it will come here. It's beautiful here. It's absolutely beautiful
sunshine e the wind blowing a little bit, but it's
just so pretty outside, gorgeous. I should be at the beach, Yeah,
that's that's where I'd like to be actually right now.
But I am sitting at um at the label here,
the new label, Big Loud Records here right on sixteenth Avenue.
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I'm looking out at the cars going by. We're just
laughing a minute ago talking about how this town, you know,
it seems like no matter where you look, people are
hustling to get get music going and and get things happening,
and people writing songs, pitching songs, making records and making videos,
I know I called earlier and told you that, um,
we just finished up my video for I was Jack
(01:37):
and you were Diane. So I'm excited to uh send
you a private link too so you can view that.
I know you've seen many videos of mine throughout the years. Yeah,
I can't wait and send it. I'm anxious. I was
wondering when you're gonna sh it up because I haven't
heard that much about it. You just told me it
was great, but you didn't didn't give me any details.
So I want to see it. Send it my way.
I'm excited. I'm excited for everybody out there to uh
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to see the video. But I'm I'm speaking of being excited. Mom.
You I should have. I'm surprised I haven't had you
on sooner on this Good Company podcast, but I've had
everybody in the family, it seems, and and you especially
with me being a and I'm totally okay saying this
to the world, but I mean, I'm cool being a
mama's boy. I love you, Mom, and you and I
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have always had a special connection. And you know, I
I look back on life and and uh, I think
about the times where you and I were Jared, my
twin brother. Obviously that those out there have heard Jared
on this podcast. He was one of the first that
we had on the on the night back in the
day when your kids growing up. If it was Monday night,
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Monday Night football was on. I've always said Jared would
be sitting right there on the right there on the
couch with dad watching Monday night football, eat and popcorn.
And it seems like you and I would be, uh
be in the kitchen or something, watercolor painting or something
like that. You had you had the creative Yeah, I
always like the creative bug, and I never wanted to
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you sitting there and by yourself, So I like picked
up a lot of my creativity from you. Oh well,
you were so creative and that was always fun for
me because the roles in the house, I needed somebody
to come play with me every now and then. So
you would throw me a bone and come over and
paint or asked me what I was doing. And you know,
it was always fun to have your company or special.
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I'll love you so much and both of you boys
were just so much fun growing up. I was thinking
about that today, how much fun it was just to
have twin boys running around keeping me on my feet
and laughing all day long. Yeah, so if you don't mind,
I mean, we'll get right into it. I usually like to,
you know, make these podcasts more of a conversation than
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some sort of you know, interview. But I uh, with
that said, I think what I wanted to ask you
was is having two boys and twins. If you don't
mind your side of the story on on how you
even knew you were having to win, Well, um, I
just I sensed it from the very beginning. But you know,
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I had never been pregnant before, so I didn't really
know when the doctors kept saying, no, it's only one,
it's gonna be a big baby, and you've just never
been pregnant before, and I just knew it. And but
long story short, the day we delivered, um, Jared popped
out first and they had the fetal monitor on and everything.
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You know, they should have known. But um, as soon
as Jared was born, as I'm sure everybody's heard that
story before, but they said there's at least one more,
and UM, a few minutes later, here you came. So
I just wanted to scream I told you so to everyone.
But I had three doctors, and all three of them
kept saying, no, there was only one. Was a surprise
(04:53):
to everybody. Well, yeah, you were. You were surprised to
everybody else that It was so funny because the night
before I was speaking to a friend of mine and
I said, I just know there are two babies in
my stomach. And so when she got the call that
that we had had twins, she said, she just got
chill bumps all over. But I guess mom to know.
I mean, I was huge, obviously, and um, you were
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both so healthy, and I was so fortunate in that
regard that you were both healthy. And I just had
to stay in the hospital a few extra days because
you didn't have names, and we didn't have an extra
crib or an extra carcity to get you home, and
so we had to um do some scrambling. But it
was all worth it, and y'all been great. I loved
I loved every minute of it. If I would have
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gotten pregnant again, I used to tell Dad that if
um we would have had any more, I would have
wanted to have twin boys. Actually now I wish I
would have had twin girls. But at the time you
all were so much fun. I couldn't imagine having anything
but boys. Well you were pretty awesome mom growing up
me twin boys, with Jared and I being as active
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as we were sports and you know, whatever it was
you were, you tend you were driving us all over
the place. And uh, I know you mentioned before from
the time we were little kids, how it was just
getting used to one of us crying and being hungry
and the other one sleeping, And just about the time
you get one of us down the other way, the
other one would would, uh start crying. So I can't
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imagine having twins. Yeah, I know, you know, I didn't
know any difference. So that was a good thing. And
you just you do what you have to do, and
that was right. We brought you home, and you know,
we would just get Jared down and all of a sudden,
your little head would pop up and so that little
and I thought, oh no, just give us ten minutes.
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But I mean, honestly, I don't know how we got
through those those first few months, because I think it's just,
you know, God just gives you the strength to get
through it. Because you guys were around the clock, um,
and you know, you were kind of on the same schedule,
but you had to feed one and then others. So
by the time I got back to sleep and Dad
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got back to sleep, it was time to start all over.
But yeah, we did it, and and you know, we
survived it. So I don't know, I don't know. I
think it's youth. I think that has a lot to
do with it too, in excitement and all of that.
But you soon got on the same schedules and and
then it became fine when you had twins there in
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the hospital that day that dad really put both of
us into a stroller and ran us out into the
waiting room when he was he he did. He left me,
He left me, took my baby. He took your babies
and ran down the hag he took my babies. He
left me In this operating room, they were ringing bells
(07:45):
and whistles to bring in extra plasma, and I thought,
oh my gosh, what's wrong, you know, And and he's
screaming and jumping up and down, and I remember him saying,
it's another boy, it's another boy. And he looks just
like me. He was so exciting. I mean, I had
just saw two babies. I know, a good job, good jobs.
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He was there that he was there the whole cell time.
It was Missy by the way, that's why as mits
And it's really funny Mom, other than um than my
cousin Mitsy, that's I believe you know, named after you.
Obviously your brother had had had Missy. But I'm not
too many Missis in life. And as much as I travel, um,
(08:30):
I've not met very many Missi's uh maybe three in
my life. But there's definitely no missies like you out there. Mom. Thanks, thanks, well,
there are a few thouse I run into Asi and
then mostly people named their little dogs. Every time you
tell them they're not your name, they get I like
used to have a little or whatever named Mitsy, So
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I get I get more dogs than name miss you,
than people. My dad loved Missy gane or back in
the day and so um, I think that's how I
got my name. And unfortunately, to his disappointment, I can't
sing or dance, so all I got was Mr Gainer thing.
That's a great segue actually, um the end of your dad. Um,
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I never got to meet your dad. I uh something
in my life that I always when people asked me
if I could meet anyone, I always say well, I
wish I could have met my granddad, which was your father.
And right, he went by Jake, correct, right, he did.
His closest friends called him Jake, which you know, in
a small town, he had so many friends, so he
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went his name was John Crawford, and he either went
by j C or Jake. But I just remember his
closest friends, Dr Green and all of his you know,
all of his buddies on the golf course, they all
called him. They all called him Jake. So that's a
good name for you. Yeah, and and and and that's
really as you know, and you'll probably laugh telling the story. Um.
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One of the reasons I wanted to have my mom
on this podcast is, uh, your story as to how
I ended up in Nashville and how everything happened. I mean,
I've told my story a bunch of times, but hearing
the story come from you, the mother, and also my
my shotgun writer. On the way up, he popped in
the Toyota Forerunner with me when I left um Tallahassee,
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and I talked to Dad on the phone. I had
Dad tell the story about how I called you guys
on the phone and and said I wanted to drop
out of college, even though that was the last thing.
You're probably thinking what I called. But um, when I said, hey, look,
I'm not talking about waiting a while. I'm talking about
leaving pretty soon, like in the next couple of days
and moving up there. Um, you were so supportive and
(10:44):
as much as you were probably scared, you Tallahassee and
you've got in. Um got in my forerunner with me
and we picked up a U haul trailer the wrong
way if you remember correctly. Because uh, that was so funny.
That was of my I think one of my favorite memories.
I really do, and I think back on it all
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the time because I wasn't nervous. Excuse me, my thread
up the allergies down here, there's still pollens everywhere. But um,
it was so fun I mean I was nervous about it.
I couldn't believe that Dad had really giving you his
blessing the night before or a couple of nights before
or whatever. But once I knew you were doing it,
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I was really excited for you and nervous, you know,
as a mother, you're nervous at the same time because
we knew nothing about Nashville. We knew no one in Nashville.
You knew no one in Nashville, and it was just scary.
And I thought, I didn't want you know, you never
want to see disappointment for your children. Um, And I
knew that that the chances of you going up there
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and and coming right back home and a little bit
we're pretty high, and I didn't want your dreams to
be put out. And I don't know, I just had
all those thoughts in my mind. And because you were
so confident in were so determined, and it was what
you wanted. So back to your story, we go up there,
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Steve said, your dad said, going up and help him
get packed up, and white up with him. And you
remember you had you had rented the apartment online. You've
done everything. I mean, I've gone online already and rented
that apartment that we eventually made it to. Getting back,
you haul trailer the wrong way. We couldn't go over
thirty five. It felt like without that that was so funny,
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just bouncing back and forth but behind us, swaying side
to side. Um, we packed it wrong. And I had
a little car, remember, and you were driving it and
you your head, you felt like your head was going
out of the sunroof, and I just remember that we were,
I don't know how far from Nashville we were. That
seemed like we had been on the road for four
and a half days. And and you slammed your hands
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on the steering wheel, and you looked at me and
you said we were going forty miles an hour, and
we had gone that that forty all the hours from
tallahasting and that the trailer was slaying back and fullth
and I think half the things in it were broken,
if you remember whenever we got there. But we got there,
but I remember vividly with you sitting there right next
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to me in the in the passenger seat, coming up north.
The minute that I saw the sign that said Nashville
and we rode in. I saw the big bat Tower,
which is, you know, our quintessential UM most you know,
it's it's the the skyline for Nashville. UM. We eventually
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made it to that apartment that I had rented online.
And once we got out and walked up to that
apartment is when I think it hit you and you
started realizing you're a little bit cleary as to whether
or not I should stay there or not. Right it
was midnight it was dark and this apartment, if you remember,
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you had to kind of go down under and and
it I don't know, it just didn't feel right. So
we decided to move on from there. But then what
the next day or two, we were just driving around
and do you remember pulling that um you haul down
Music Row? Do you remember that We were just laughing
and we were calling there was a wedding going on
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and that we had, you know, Sally Fish, your Marty Fish,
your friends. They were Sally Marty's mom was there at
the wedding, and remember we were calling her and saying, oh,
I was you weren't You didn't care. You knew you
would find someplace eventually. But I was trying to get
some advice and said, asked these people who were from Nashville,
where's a good place to live? I mean, And then
it just hit me that what are we doing? What
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are you doing? And I just it was a nervous time,
it was, but it as it all turned out, we
found a great place and we got all news that.
I mean, I know you as a mother and that's
what I always uh appreciate and loved about you. Mom.
But looking back on that, if you were really on
a with yourself and me, even though you probably don't
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want to tell me at the time you drove me
up there. I mean, if you put it in a
percentage chance that you thought that all these years later,
if you know, thirteen years later, I would have done
what I've done, and and we've had the experiences that
not only I've had, but that we've been able to
share as a family. Um, what would you did you?
I mean, did you think that would happen? I mean,
(15:23):
I mean if you have a pretty good intuition as
a mother. So I was wondering what I've never really
asked you that. Well, you know, it's funny, like I say,
I was mixed because I truly did believe in you,
because I saw how hard you worked and how passionate
you were at Florida State. When you were there, I
I knew that you had it in you to go
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up there and follow your dream. I knew that, but
knowing nothing about the music business. And you know, now
I'm looking back, I really realized how much I didn't
know and how slim your chances were getting the way.
That's a good thing that But do you remember do
you remember when we pulled into that hotel and we
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were unloading a suitcase and that man walked up to you.
Do you remember, well, I didn't know he was homeless
or who he was, but he said who are you?
And you said your name right right? And you said
your name, and I wasn't thinking anything. You just I thought, wow,
I'm why is this man asking him who he is?
And then it dawned on me that it was probably
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because you had a guitar and maybe people were looking
thinking that you were somebody. And he said and then
he remember, he said no, who are you? And you
told him your name again and he he said, no,
you're somebody and you you said, no, sir, I'm just here.
I'm just a nation moved here. I'm just I'm just
getting here, all right. And he said, well, you're going
(16:48):
to be somebody. Do you remember that? I I've got
chill ups because remember we we looked at each other.
You remember when we went downtown on Broadway because I
wanted to get a shirt. There's something cool to wear?
You remember apart when I moved to Nashville and that guy,
when we walked in that store down on Broadway, said, uh,
(17:09):
did you find yourself a good church to go, I remember,
and I told him, yeah, I hadn't. I haven't found
one yet, and he said, well, there's plenty of them,
and that's that's important. I know. I love that. It
made me feel well. It just made me feel good
that someone, especially down there on Broadway, would I would
bring that up to you. But at the same time
(17:29):
it I remember that section, that section of time that
when we first went down to Broadway. That's when I
got to tit in my stomach because I thought, oh,
I just thought, is he going to be sitting here
with those roads inside, uh like Broadway musicians on the
street corners, Yeah, with the guitar cases open, and they
(17:49):
were kind of just sitting there, and I thought, what,
they probably loved what they do and they're happy, happy
doing it. But you know, I just I got I
got really concerned in I think I did a little
bit and that that's the moment. And then when the
man said that about finding the church, I thought, oh,
my goodness, you know what one am I leaving my
son too? But again, I really I knew by that
(18:09):
time at Florida State that you you were pretty passionate
about it, and I thought that you were really good
because we had hurt you a few times at Florida State.
And I was impressed. And but that was that was
a funny story too. If you remember when the first
time we saw you when we went up to um
watch Jared play a tennis tournament and he asked us
if we were gonna go see you, and we said,
(18:31):
they go see you play and we said play? What
he said, Dad, Mom, he's really good his guitar. And
we just looked at him, like, because you hadn't really
told us that you have been spending more time playing
guitar than you had going to class, and um, he said,
you were playing at pot Belly. So we all went
over to pot Bellies and I expected to see you
(18:52):
just you know, playing on a stool like you did
at home, and you know a few people there, and
it was so funny because that band was inside and
you were outside and you had a humongous crowl around you,
and Dad and I just looked at each other and
just shook our heads like how do we miss this?
You know, where did this come from? How do we
miss it? But it was it was exciting, So I
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didn't know you. I knew you had it in you,
and it was I was amazed. If you remember getting
back to your your dad and I spoke about that
I didn't get to meet that. His name Jake Um
moving to town at the time, Josh Turner was on
the radio. On the radio, my given birth name was
(19:34):
obviously Josh and Um. There was just a part of
me that at the time, I had this feeling that
I said, I don't I don't know if I want
to go by Josh and just be another Josh up here.
So h and Josh Owen had just one Nashville Star
was great. It was on Nashville Star. Um, and so
(19:55):
my middle nation was is Ryan, So maybe I'll go
by j R. And Uh. The first few people we
met in Nashville, I was I was just bound and
determined to just start start my name right then and there.
And I remember this guy you couldn't even look at
each other, buddy David, that that helped us move in. Uh,
David Andrews shout out to David Sanders. He's out in
(20:17):
Texas now, but he helped me move my stuff in.
He said, what's your name in? And I quickly like
looked at you and I looked at him, I said
j R. And you started laughing, crying. You're like laughing
so hard. How could I tell somebody my name was JR.
When I've been Josh my whole life. But by the
time I got moved in. Later that night, I went
down by the pool and there were some people out
(20:38):
by the pool that we were just meeting, and they said,
what's your name? And I said, my name is Jake.
And that day of looking at me like I thought,
you said her name was j R. And I wanted
to say, man, I'm still figuring this out right now,
all right, but I don't remember that it was so
funny because you didn't you felt funny. I think changing
your name somebody my name was something it wasn't, but
(20:59):
I know in for it, and uh, you know the
years later taking your dad's name, and it's made a
lot of sense. And what's interesting is is you think
about all the years I've had a record deal now
and I've never I haven't met any other country artists
come up named Jake. I know, I know that that
is so funny. And I think it's also interesting because honestly, um,
(21:23):
your granddad that you never met Jake j C. And
he loved country music so much and when used to ride,
so yeah, I can tell you everybody what your dad did.
Um growing up well in City, Florida. We're all Floridians,
So Haines City at the time predominantly was driven by
the citrus industry, right right, and that dad was in
(21:46):
the citrus business. And I just remember he just loved
country music. And of course this was in the early
seven you know, well, late sixties, early seventies, when I
was in my team and I wasn't listening to country music.
We were listening to the Beatles and Rolling Stones and
and yeah, that's that's what we were listening to. And
he would wholly captive. We would go out and I
(22:06):
would drive with them sometimes out to the grove, and
he goes, this is pretty music. This is real music.
And he he knew that I didn't like it because
I thought the teenager and I'm, you know, want to
listen to my stuff. He would not change the channel.
He would always listen to it. And and I, you know,
I I remembered the songs, so I didn't ever pay
attention to who sang them or or anything like that.
(22:29):
But they always reminded me of my daddy, you know,
when I heard them as I got older and you know,
got more into the country. But I'll never forget that.
Um you sitting back there in the study when you
were playing your guitar and learning the different songs, and
I don't even remember which song it was, but I
came around you do. Probably I think it was a
(22:49):
Merle Haggard song. But whatever, if you said that, I
would know it, because, like I said, I didn't know
the names of the songs then. But you started playing
this song. And of course, my dad passed away when
he was forty nine, and so this was several years later,
and you started playing a song that just gave me
chilled because I thought, and my deah, how you love
that song and that you just you just reminded me
(23:12):
of him. And that's why I really wish that you
could have met him, and then he could have met you,
because I think of all the people, he would have
gotten a huge kick. First of all, he was a character,
and he would have been bragging on you and you know,
kidding you about your songs and your hair and everything else.
But you know, yeah, yeah, you know that, Uh. I
(23:35):
asked some people some questions on Twitter earlier, I said
that I was gonna have you on my podcast and
asked me, yeah, you blame me and I Well, no,
I I said, asked me some questions that you might
want to ask my mom, and one of the main
main questions was, um, how you how you like my hair?
Considering I told people I was cutting it because you
(23:55):
were asking me, so I got all the blame for that. Um,
I love your hair. I really like your hair short.
I liked it longer. I did like it long at times.
I didn't like it really long when it got scraggly,
and I don't know, I didn't like it when it
got too long. I like it. I think it shows
(24:15):
your face off better and I like it. However, I
will tell you that your aunt Debbie is in disagreement.
She wanted it, she literally wrote me and it is
it too late to call Jake and tell him my
vote for the flow? And I said, he's already cut.
It's it's either short or long, but there's no one
in between. So getting to the long length you have
(24:37):
to go through some serious weird weird Uh. I agree
with you, Yeah, I agree with you. I think, Yeah,
you're a grown up. Yeah, you've had you've had the
long hair. Now what other questions do I have for
you here? That says Crystal Um. Crystal cruisick Um says, uh,
(25:00):
does your mom ever try to set you up on dates? No?
I don't. I don't think so. Do you think? I
don't think so. I don't think I've ever ask your
mom if she expects you to get married again and
if there is a special someone in your life. Ah.
(25:23):
Oh do you want me to answer that one? Well,
I mean I definitely have a special sum of my
life that before. But um, and I would love for
you again, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I would love for you
to get married again. I think. I mean, I've been
married thirties eight years, seven years, and I love it,
(25:45):
and I wish that for all my children. I want
them to have a happy marriage. And I wanted to,
you know, last, and I think you should. I think
you should grow old with someone. I think that's that's
a wonderful thing. Yes, I would love for you to
get married again. I'd love for you to get married
to someone that you truly love and and are happy
(26:07):
with them. You can make them happy, and they can
make you happy, and I love the place in your
life where you are right now. And if you call
me a question for you, So, if I wasn't playing
music right now, and I'd never left to come to Nashville,
being you know, my mother and having motherly instincts, what
I don't think I would be doing right now? You know,
(26:30):
I like the place of that right now, what your
two sons will be doing? What would you what would
you have said? Then? Honestly, I will tell you this,
and I've said this to many people. I'm worried about it.
When we were when we all were in college, and
even you know, in your high school years being twins,
y'all were so like you were so different and I
(26:51):
could have seen Jared in so many different areas. I mean,
I just could see him doing anything at that and
you would probably agree with that. And I could not
picture of what you would be doing, which is so
weird because I would have never thought you would be
doing what you're doing now. But I always tried to
do think I know you didn't. You changed your major
(27:13):
like how many different times? But I will say this,
you love you were creative and you loved words. You know,
you like you liked English. I'll remember that. And I
always felt like you would be some sort of a
writer or I feel like you would go that direction,
not so much a business direction as more of a
(27:34):
creative direction. I did feel that, and I did say
that early on, but I didn't know what that would
particularly be. Your nanny used to say you were going
to be a preacher, because if you remember, you carry
around that little green Bible whenever you were you were
two or three years old. You love that. That was
your favorite toy. But um, I guess in a way
you sort of are. You're out there preaching to the
crowds every night. But no, I honestly, I don't know.
(27:57):
I couldn't answer that question because I I did feel
like it would be somewhere in the creative field. Well,
I think a lot of the people that I've talked
to on this show and talking with you, especially because
being a supportive mothers so important, there's a lot of
kids out there that may may listen to this, or
people that have kids that are listening that. Um, I
(28:20):
think it's important that I point out the fact that
no matter what I was doing as a kid, I mean,
you had you had morals and values that you'd hope
that I had. Uh. You know, UH stood too and
and and and maintained. But you always were supportive of
what I was doing to the point where I felt like,
(28:40):
if I ever failed doing it, I wasn't going to
disappoint you. Um. I never wanted to disappoint you, But
I never felt like if I chased something and failed
doing it, that you would ever be disappointed that I
didn't do it. And so I think gave me the confidence.
People I was asking where do you get your confidence from?
And I think it's so important to have people in
(29:01):
your life like you and and Dad that we're always
supportive of me no matter what whether it worked out
or not. I mean, I look back on baseball games
we played as a kid, and if we didn't win
the baseball game, wasn't the end of the wasn't end
of the world. I mean, you and Dad were always
will get him next time, kid, you know. I mean
it's and I think learning from that has allowed me
throughout the years to uh to have the confidence that
(29:23):
I have when people ask you, know, where do you
get your your confidence from? And UM, I think he
had you had to learn, you had to learn to win,
you had to learn to lose, and and we were you,
We were you were right, We were supportive and and
I think you would agree that. I mean, if you
ever did anything that maybe we felt like you shouldn't,
we would tell you. I mean, we didn't always tell
(29:45):
you were the greatest, that you did everything perfectly and
it was okay, I think, And don't you agree with
that that if if, it's probably still happening. And there
are things that Dad and I don't particularly agree with
that we let you know. I mean, whether it makes
any difference or not now at your age, um another story.
But but I just think that we've just had that
(30:06):
kind of a relationship when we support you because we
believe in you and we know that you're Oh, I
know where your heart is too. You wanted to you
wanted to succeed, and you wanted to do everything right
and you've tried your best, and honestly, no matter what,
you're right. We we support all of our kids that way.
And I think going back to those days in college,
(30:26):
you guys used to laugh at me and say we're
not laugh You always say, well, I can't believe you're
out there, you know, all these people for free, and
why are you not getting paid for what you're doing?
And I remember always saying that, well, I think one
day people will pay me to do what I do.
But I never did this because I wanted to be
rich or wanted to be I know, you've always said
that because I loved it. But now that it's worked
(30:47):
out and we got a few more minutes here, I
was going to just ask you a few other questions
that I have and some people have asked. But one
one question in particular that someone um someone asked on
Twitter that I found pretty interesting was was what is
the heart? What is the hardest part for you about
having a son that does what I do for a living.
(31:10):
Everybody wants to hear the glamorous things. I've seen lots
of things on here, like what's you know? Someone says, uh,
you know, you know what's it did when you hit
it big? Did you do anything for your mom and dad?
Did you buy him a special gift like a car?
Taking my special vacation is what Mary Butler said, and
we know very shout out to Florida, Mary. Hey, Mary,
Yeah she asked that, But I mean you can get
(31:33):
to that. I'm sure, if there's something that you that
you know that you feel like, but is there anything
you know? Sometimes people want to know the hard parts
about life. Everybody talks about the easy things, But what's
been the hardest thing for you? As the adjustment throughout
the years, having a son became, you know, somewhat in
the spotlight because Google alerts for your son, I'm still
(31:54):
got him. I've still got him. I mean I did
that right right off the bat because someone told me
about Google alerts, and I've still got They still pop up,
and I mean, I do so many of us to
fill up my email. But I think the hardest two things,
the hardest part in the beginning and still now even
I mean, I'm I'm still tense and nervous every time
(32:15):
a song comes out, or every time you're doing something
different and making changes or whatever did you're doing. I
you know, I want to I want you to find success,
I want you to be happy, and I always just
and that that makes me kind of nervous. But um,
I'm better off now than I used to be. Used
to really worry about that, and and I worried about
(32:36):
you out on the road. I mean that was hard,
you know, I didn't know the business. I didn't know
what was going on, so that was a little bit hard.
I just worried about your safety and what was going on.
But as far as the way people treat me, he's
got the nicest and I'm not saying that you do
have the nicest fans, And I've met the nicest people
(32:58):
because of you doing what you're doing. And I been
so surprised that is how normal. Everybody comes up and
talks to me and and treats me, and they're they're
very nice like that. And I would say that The
only one hard thing that I think Dad and I
both deal with is you know, as you know, if
it was possible, we'd give away five million tickets a
(33:18):
year because you just I wish I had a bag
that I could go around because people don't really and
truly understand how all of that was. Been hard on
that problem, That's what I mean, really meant I shouldn't
shouldn't be even included fans and that, but um, just
people that you know, I mean, just acquainting this through town.
(33:39):
They don't mean, they don't they don't even they don't
mean anything by it at all. But as I think
they think that we all have, you know, access to
everything that you do, whether it's you know, be the
Kenny Chesney to her that you were opening up for
when nobody had a clue who you were. I think
everybody thought, well, we'll call you know, his mom and
dad and we can get six tickets for the show.
(34:00):
And as you know, it doesn't work that way. And
I and it was so hard to tell people no,
because I never didn't. I never want anyone to think
that we didn't. I want to help them because we
always do. As I said, if I had a bag
of tickets, I'd go around passing them all out. But
that that's been hard. And I know it's been hard
on you because we've we've called on you for so
many favors and you've been so gracious and helped us
(34:22):
so many times. But I know that I know how
hard it must be on you because that's probably been
the hardest for us. Um, just that, but as far
as the way people treat us, I mean, people are
so complimentary and they're they're supportive and they're just as
happy for you as we are. And UM, it doesn't
mean I can't really say there's a negative there we're excited,
(34:46):
we're proud of you, and as you know, I mean,
I get a kick out of it. I love it,
And um, I hope you're still playing when you're ninety five.
I don't. I guess I won't be here to see that,
but I hope I do. I hope you are. I
hope you know. You know. And closing on this that
I've told you this before, but you and Dad have
been so supportive of me, even in times where I'm
(35:06):
sure you were scared. But uh, I mean, I've played
hundreds of shows that you and Dad and Jared and
the family has all come out to support me. And
you've heard me play the same songs and and and
seeing the same things over and over. But you continually
come out and support me. You have no idea how
much it makes me. I mean, it just if totally
(35:26):
fulfills me knowing that you guys still support me. But um,
is there any go ahead? I don't mind. Yeah, I
was gonna. I did want to interject this that as
proud as we are of you, and how much we
love going to all the shows, and I still get
butterflies every time before you come out, and as exciting
as all of it is. I think what has brought
(35:48):
Dad and I the most pleasure and pride is seeing
how you have conducted yourself and what you've done, not
only for for others around the country. I know how
giving you are and that you've been that way says
you were a little boy, you give everything you had um,
but what you've done for the town if you're a beach,
(36:10):
and how supportive you've been. And I think that's why
everyone loves you so much here. It's because you have
given back and you let them know how much you
you love this town and what they've done for you.
And that makes us so proud. And you know that,
and I love you so much for that. You and
Jared both have been great kids, and we're blessed every
(36:31):
day that we have you. So you make us proud,
and you're a good boy. You call home and make
us feel good every day. You've got two sons that
love you more than anything, and you're a great mom
or your great grandmother to my little girl, Pearl. She
I love that. If there's anybody out there listening right
(36:52):
now that's Uh thinking about moving to Nashville, or not
even moving to Nashville, just thinking about making a life
change something that's seems a little scary. Um, is there
one piece of advice as we get out of here, mom,
is there one piece of advice that you can leave
us with from a mother's perspective that you would that
you think, uh, you know, you could you could share
(37:14):
with those out there that, um, they kind of want
to leave this with a positive note. We try to
stay positive here on on good Company. That's what I
love about doing this, talking to people with great stories.
But I think it would be great to have you
leave us with a piece of your motherly advice and
uh take us out. Well, I would just say, as
(37:34):
you said, be supportive. And it's not always easy, because
you will you never want to let your kids go
and you think you know better, but I think you've
just gotta gotta give your children their wings and you've
got to let him try and you've got to let
them fail. And your aunt Sarah had to tell me
(37:54):
that when I was concerned about it, and that she
was so right because now I would tell anyone that
I would say, go for it and be supportive of
I mean, keep in touch. And I think that your
kids surprise you every day. And so I think that's
exactly what I would tell them. Let them, you trust
on them, believe in them, and sell your prayers for
them every day, and they'll probably surprise you and how
(38:19):
accomplished they are. That is well said, Mom. I love you.
You know that, uh to me? And I always said
to you. You started it when I was a kid.
You said, I love you higher than the sky and
deep in the ocean, and uh, that's right, I do, Mom.
I love you very much. I'm thankful and I know
everyone out there that's listening to this podcast, I know
(38:40):
that they're thankful that you're on here to today talking
to me. Um. You eat so much beauty to my
life and and a lot of others out there that
have met you, and thanks for being you. Thanks for
thanks for being yet one more person on the Good
Company podcast. It's definitely good company. I love you, Mom.
I love you too, Boggy anymore. You've done a great
(39:02):
job today, So I'll call you later. We'll catch up, okay, alrighty, Well,
thanks thanks for calling. Thank you, Mom, I love you,
Get and everybody else out there, I love you all.
Thanks for tuning in. This has been Good Company with
Jake We're back every other Tuesday, and we'll see you
next time, and uh catch it in. We'll see you,
(39:23):
see your mom. I love you, bye bye. I love
you too,
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