May 16, 2024 • 44 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys react to NFL Schedule Release Day, including Netflix dishing out $150M for 2 Christmas Day games and a heavy dose of Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. Plus, NFL Reporter Albert Breer.
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view of the street so where you could see any
like if there was like the hobos, oh yeah, bums
pulling knives on each other or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
And people you try to figure out why are they
working out at this hour? Like what are you what
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Speaker 7 (02:38):
Drug addicts, hookers, strippers like you name it.
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They were on the dark side of things.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
I was just thinking, like somebody's like a CEO or
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Speaker 4 (02:52):
I don't I don't understand it.
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by police.
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And it'd be right in front of our it'd be
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But we're not in that studio anymore, but we could
still walk over there and look at it. And there's
like four or five cop cars. They're searching through the
U haul trying to find out what's inside of it,
and so we were just speculating what could possibly be inside.
You say, I hope it comes back a body, like
if they pull out just saying, if they pull out
a trash bag with a human being inside of it.
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We're gonna get on the news because the local news
will be here, and I think Lee needs to go
by and hold a sign up promoting our show on
the local news.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't know, man, let's head to the radio station. Dude,
you know, I saw big. I don't know if if.
Speaker 10 (03:40):
Lee did do it, could he be one of those
guys like spinning the sign and dancing, Yeah, like spinning
it and dancing it with like the old school headphones
on pulling here?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
I'm out, Lee, were you able to figure out at all,
like what sort of what's happening?
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Out there. Did you get any information?
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I was peeking inside the back of the ULU before
they closed it.
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Before they closed it, What did you see inside?
Speaker 7 (04:08):
I saw a bicycle and some boxes.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
We'll bring them in.
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I didn't want to get all up in their business,
yea inside.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
So yeah, we will keep you posted. Uh bye, sick.
Nowadays you never tell all right. So with that we
bleed over to this. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas NOx
with you here. The NFL schedule is out. There's been
some leaks and rumblings. We're gonna have all different aspects
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to the NFL schedule throughout the course of the show.
We're going to sprinkle them in here over the next
three hours. But how about the fact that Netflix just sides,
you know what, seventy five million dollars a game on Christmas?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
That'll work.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
And so Netflix, for one hundred and fifty million dollars
on Christmas is going to get the Chiefs at the
Steelers and the Ravens at the Texans, which is code
for nice knowing you, NBA and parts of your family,
because those are prime matchups we're going to get at.
Barring health, everybody's healthy and ready to go and playing
for all those teams. They've got some prime matchups for
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the low low price of seventy five million dollars a game.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's awesome.
Speaker 9 (05:35):
I mean, how do you make money on this stuff?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
What do you pay?
Speaker 9 (05:39):
Seriously?
Speaker 10 (05:41):
I mean, look, I think I think we can simplify
this enough to say this. You pay seventy five million
for one game. All right, you've got well, we say
three hours, three and a half hours. How are you
going to do it? How about this, Let's give the
entire week leading up to the game, okay, to advertise
for it, to you know, try to figure out ways
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of generating revenue around it.
Speaker 9 (06:04):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 10 (06:05):
I don't know how you make money off of that,
paying seventy five minus.
Speaker 9 (06:10):
There was a time when and I think Pro Football Talk.
Speaker 10 (06:13):
And Mike Floyer used to write about this, when the
ESPN would buy the wildcard games sure for like twenty
five million, and people would question how you make any
money off that?
Speaker 9 (06:25):
I don't mean, it's crazy. You look, obviously they're paying
for it.
Speaker 10 (06:29):
Folks at Netflix are smarter than I am, so they
must be figuring some way of making this work. But
it is crazy to me that there are, whether it's
a streaming platform or networks out there that are willing
to spend this kind of money, and I don't know
if it always means they end up.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
Becoming profitable from it.
Speaker 10 (06:49):
I'm not sure where this leads down the road, but
it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (06:53):
It's crazy to see.
Speaker 10 (06:54):
How much the NFL is able to make for a
singular game on Christmas.
Speaker 9 (07:00):
Par of that to the NBA.
Speaker 10 (07:01):
What do you think an NBA Christmas Day actually can
generate as far as revenue or profit or even let's
say you're auctioning that game off like best two teams,
what is that going to go.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
For fifty bucks? You know, like later, yeah, here's you know,
well skittles. We're asking for fifty but if you only
got two twenties on you, that'll work.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
I just rawberry shortcake, I don't know, creamsickle pop.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
And I know that discussion becomes, you know, with all
these streaming apps and places that you have to go
to watch it, you know, it's it's pricey to be
able to be an NFL fan. And some people have
discussed that and kind of broken down and we tried
to break down the numbers last week, and I think
we all got more confused by the numbers of different
streaming apps and places like that. I just I think
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the NFL knows they've got everybody by the balls at
this point, and I just don't see a way that
people are going to just push back and say, no,
I'm sorry, I'm just not interested in watching this anymore
unless the product just gets worse and worse and worse
and lacks such star power, which I just don't see
happening anytime soon.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Are there going to be in game commercials like a
regular network television game and do they control that?
Speaker 10 (08:15):
Yes, they control it one and two. Yes, I believe
there's going to be.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
So, I mean, they may feel like they already have
enough advertisers to offset, you know, based off of what
they were willing to pay. They got to know what
they're willing to pay, right with the threashold or what
they're willing to pay.
Speaker 10 (08:34):
So I'll simply try to kind of break it down, Right,
if you have a broadcast partner, you're basing a lot
of your revenue off of advertising.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
A lot of people think that, well, yeah, you pay a.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
Subscription fee for your cable, but with broadcast linear television,
you can tune in and get a signal, right, So
you can't necessarily bank on that. So let's just say,
you know, if it's a Fox, A CBS and ABC,
any of those, NBC, there's a broadcast thing you can
tune into, put the rabbitt ears up, you can get
that channel.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Right.
Speaker 10 (09:04):
So traditionally you used to say, like we can get
X amount of dollars having so many windows for commercials
that we've sold in order to make money on whatever
this cost to pay for it.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Right.
Speaker 10 (09:17):
So with Netflix, it's different because they have subscribers. It's
just kind of similarly more to a cable model. The
only difference is like they're not being bundled in there,
like it's a direct to consumer. They know exactly what
every single person is doing that's subscribing to their streaming app.
They know all those things about you, right, So they're
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paying whatever monthly fee it is, and maybe it's with advertising,
maybe it's not.
Speaker 9 (09:41):
Now that's what's going to be interesting is I think
if you're going.
Speaker 10 (09:44):
To be a part of the live entertainment games, even
for people who have a subscription, that's a higher end
a subscription where they don't watch commercials, they're probably going
to have to in this case, just because that's part
of the business model.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
So it's just it's a little different.
Speaker 10 (10:02):
But again, I think what a lot of a lot
of streaming apps and people are doing is they're just like,
we want in on this.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
We may not make money at.
Speaker 10 (10:12):
First, but once we get more like, we'll find a
way to make money off this when it's all said
and done, when we force people to come here and
subscribe and watch, you know, the different commercials and whatnot
that come along with these live events.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Yeah, I would just assume that there's so much data
connected to what you're able to collect as a streaming
service that strategic ad insertions is such a big thing.
At this point, you can almost predict out what it
would cost, like what each person or what each advertiser
would need to pay per I don't know, whatever it
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may be, you know, per mention, whatever whatever the deliverables
would be. You'd have to assume they package this thing
up and they say here's what we can sell, here's
what we can make, and based off of whatever it
is they would look at being their profit margin, you'd
have to assume that was why they were willing to
pay what they were willing to pay.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
No, I just think they're trying to get it on it, Like,
I really don't think they're gonna make money off of it.
Speaker 8 (11:12):
There's just there's no It's not necessarily that they make
money off of it per se, but they're definitely going
to try to offset the hard expenses connection to whatever
it is that they're doing well.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
I think what happens too is if you think about
when you have a live event like that, you can
base hey, we've got you know, maybe a Jerry Jones
ten part docuseries, and we're gonna ge people who want.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
To want to watch that.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
What you're trying to do, if you're a streaming app,
you're just trying to get people to stay there longer.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
It's like any app. It's like Instagram.
Speaker 10 (11:42):
You know, when you have someone who logs on Instagram,
their entire job at Instagram is to get you or
met it in this case, is to get you to
stay there because the log you stay there, the more
ads you see, the more they can track what you're
doing and what your habits are. And that's the same
thing with Netflix, even though it's not the traditional applete
were talking about on your phone. In a sense, even
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though someone it's gonna be watching their phone, that's what
they're trying to get from you.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
So it's not so much about just hey, this game.
Speaker 10 (12:09):
Do we make money off this one singular game or
these two games on Christmas?
Speaker 9 (12:13):
It's probably about everything else involved.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
But it's also showing the NFL this is what we
can do, this is the product that we can sell,
and once they get their foot in the door, it
opens it up, I think, to allowing them to have
more games, more access to being a bigger player in
the future.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You know.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
In a weird way, COVID ended up being a good thing.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
For the NFL, great thing for Netflix.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
I mean, because I just think that, and they've talked
about how like the UFC, the viewership for the UFC
grew during COVID because it was one of the only
events that was going on, and the NFL was able
to hold an entire season. There was no they didn't
miss any time, they had a Super Bowl, they had
all that stuff, And I wonder if you just look
back all these years later and go there were certain
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businesses that thrive during all that or benefited from it.
That were shut down, and it's terrible, but there were
certain that have thrived because of it. And I wonder
how much long term success that gave the NFL, or
revenue that gave the NFL. The fact that they were
still able to put on in empty stadiums an entire season,
and it's led to everything they've done here.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
So I have to think about that, they went through
an entire season.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Where nobody there, like make believe crowds in stands, and
yet here we are. And if you would have said
during COVID Netflix is going to be paying seventy five
million dollars a game for Christmas games, it'd be like,
hold on, can we just make sure nobody nobody like
dies of COVID here, We make sure nothing happens here
on the field, and just a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
We shall pivot.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
I'll tell you that crazy to think that a streaming
company that's going to take, you know, the rights to
stream old movies and documentary aries and stuff like that.
Now they go live and now you're starting to see
them again replaced. I was I was trying to figure
out why pay per view has been you know, like
for boxing like why did Showtime go away? You know,
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why did pay per view and different things like that
go away? Because these streaming platforms is they're they're monopolizing.
I mean, who whatever thought you're going to go from
that streaming Like if you think about it, Kaleid Escape
was the first. Like that was like the first you
know streaming deal where you uploaded your your DVD and
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you could go on to the platform, the Kalide Escape
and it was on demand for all of the DVDs
that you you know, uploaded to your system.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh yeah, I don't even remember that. Yeah, it was
the coolest thing.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
You go down, you download your your DVD, you can
get rid of your DVD or you know whatever store
whatever happens, you know, they get scratched, they skip whatever.
That was the first streaming Like you're streaming, but you're
streaming with the system in your home. Now it turns
into you have streaming like you know YouTube. Whoever thought
YouTube would turn into a place where you could see live,
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live action on things or see you know, something other
than just short form content being posted. It turns into
like almost they're their own TV stations now, like literally
the not even a station they're they're their own TV,
like their network. It's pretty crazy, man, It's pretty crazy
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because you can continue to pivot as long as you
have the capabilities of being able to support what it
is that you're doing technology wise, you can continue to
evolve into things that you know, your mind can't even
fathom where it's all going, you know, what that fan
experience could possibly be going through these these platforms. I
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think it's interesting because it's cutting edge, it's it's innovative,
and it's bringing it's furthering, you know, kind of this
whole where is where is technology haking entertainment? And how
does how does sports like a sport like football, how
does it how does it play a major part in
and that pushing forward? So something intriguing the watch, I'll
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tell you that because one of the biggest things we
were worrying about or thinking about with Prime was how
how is that going to work? You know, how's how's
the streaming, the lagging all those things? How is it
going working? I mean, they got through it. There were
a couple of hiccups that seemed like, but they got
through it.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
Well, and they're still not reaching as big of an audience.
I mean, that's that's been proven and the other issue is,
I think for for Netflix, what's what's different is excuse
me on Christmas Day, Like you know, it's gonna be
a big game, Like, you know, it's meaningful to the NFL,
it's meaningful obviousitly to Netflix and everyone else who's watching.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
So the difference is.
Speaker 10 (16:49):
When you, you know, sign up for a Thursday football packages,
you're gonna have some crap bad games, like let's be real,
and no one's gonna tell you that more than Al Michaels.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
So it's just part of the deal.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
When you sign up for the entire season, one game
a week, not every single one is.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Gonna be a banger.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You know.
Speaker 10 (17:05):
It's like the old albums back in the day. You know,
we used to buy albums because pretty much every song
used to be legit. Well, as more things have spread
to more primetime, more of a demand by broadcast partners
and streaming you know, platforms and networks, you know, now
it's like, all right, a little bit different. You know,
you're not gonna have quite as many quality matchups. This
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is a cornerstone to the NFL moving forward to squash
out the NBA to highlight their product on a holiday
that the NBA used to try to cove it.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
Now it's all changed.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
So it's smart in the sense of like, yes, they're
overpaying for one singular game or two games, but they
know they're gonna get marquee matchups and an audience that
could be one of the biggest of the entire season
outside of you know, maybe as we get to the playoffs,
super Bowl, you know, that sort of thing. But at
least during the regular season, it should be a massive audience.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
That used to be the worst when a band would
come out or a group would come out with just
a banger of a hit and you're like, man, I
gotta go get that album, and then you realize the
other eleven songs sucked.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Ass football, damn, Like, when's the single come out?
Speaker 7 (18:18):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah? Yeah, that's too bad.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
Well, at least you have a stake at halftime, there
is that.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
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Speaker 7 (19:09):
LeVar Arrington, Oh is probably feeling a little bit more
confident about a bold proclamation he made on the show
earlier this week. You see guys like Brady and I.
We have thrown our support into the New York Jets
and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah we have.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
We have one of the all time greats go out
and stops hell. Yeah Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, And we've
done our part to try and defend Aaron Rodgers, and
defend Robert Sala and defend the New York Jets organization.
And apparently the NFL is on the side of LeVar
Arrington because the schedule has come out and the New York.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Jets got absolutely host.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
You talk about a shop job from the National Football League.
You open up on Monday night, you're at the Niners.
Then you're on the road in weeked at the Titans.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
That's not bad.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Then you get a home game, but it's on a
short week against the Patriots. You get the Broncos after
that at home.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
That's not bad.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Yeah, and then you're going to London. You've also got
two Sunday to Thursday turnarounds. And everyone's like, well, you're
being featured in prime time, as they should be, but
they're being featured in primetime and they're also getting dealt
a bag of crap by the NFL. And I'm sick
of it. I'm tired of the district. So bad about
what you just said. That's all manageable. What are you
talking about?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
What you mean.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
That's a tough schedule, man?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
What do you mean? What do you mean tough as
in like turnaround time and stuff like that.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
I get that they play three games in ten days,
by the way, which I don't even know if that's.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
They play three games in ten days.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
Once they play three games in eleven days another separate
time before they're buying Week twelve, start off back to
back weeks on the road. Before they come back for
a short week for divisional opponent, they go off.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
To London, which you know is where it is. But
think about that.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
That's a lot of travel, that's a it's a lot
of games in a short amount of time in the
first part of the season.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well, you know that's what they do with your schedule
when you stink.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
That, Or maybe it's it's twofold.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
I think it's the fact that they want to get
in on Aaron Rodgers potentially before he gets hurt. No,
it took four plays last year, so like, hey, we
got to front load this baby. There's that element of it.
And I also do wonder, because Aaron Rodgers has not
been afraid to voice his opinion publicly in a bunch
of different ways, I do wonder if the NFL office
has a little bit of a red ass. I mean,
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I'll say this, LeVar, any team you went to, every
single team trying to get you to toe the company line,
if you stepped out of line, if you spoke out
of line, I should say that was a problem.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
That was a problem for the team.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
You know, whatever you said that didn't fall in line
with whatever the team wont you say that's a problem.
Speaker 9 (22:01):
Rogers has gotten kind of above and beyond that.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
He's he's just such a big figure for the Jets
in the sense of the decisions they make, the decisions
they don't make.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
He factors into all of that.
Speaker 10 (22:13):
So I do wonder if the NFL office feels like
they need to take a more active approach and saying,
all right, let's just go ahead and load up all
these Monday night, Thursday night, Monday night football, Sunday night football,
another Thursday night, Sunday night, all in eleven weeks, to
load it up and make it a little bit of
a more difficult road if if he wants to not
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tow the company line.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
If you will, do you think about that far? I mean,
it's an interesting conspiracy theory. Yeah, can get.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
I games? Good?
Speaker 8 (22:49):
You guys, go ahead, I got the conspiracy theory on.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
You don't think it's a little odd that that team
would open up with three games and ten days. Three
in ten days, you're going at the Niners. You're traveling
all the way back. I got like that whole lineup,
that whole schedule. It's kind of a pain in the ass.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Yeah, I mean, I don't listen. I think what you
guys are saying is logical. But I think there's only
one team in there that you don't if you had
to do it, if that's what your schedule is going
to be, I mean, I would want it against those
teams outside of the Niners. The rest of them are manageable.
Name one of those games that isn't manageable.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I think got Pittsburgh's not easy. But you're not high
on them this year.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I'm not not yet.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
You still on a short week is going to be tough.
They're really good.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
That's not bad. That's that's I mean, I get it.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Yeah, to your point, it's a valid point.
Speaker 10 (23:44):
Like it's not the most difficult schedule outside of San Francisco.
It's more about the travel. It's more about the exposure
everything else.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
If that's what you're going to have, you don't have
what choice over what you're going to have. So if
that's what you're gonna have, I'd rather have manageable teams.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
What's interesting is they have the twelfth hardest scale according
to last year's win percentage of the opponents they're facing,
which they had the tenth worst record this past.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Year, So I guess that's somewhat close to being fair.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
It's messed up, man's disrespect. God forbid, the guy has
some opinions that different from somebody else, and the NFL
has got to throw them.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You know, just what's wrong with you?
Speaker 7 (24:25):
What do you mean, man, God forbid, the guy's got
some opinions that are different from somebody else, and the
NFL has got to throw them. You know, just just
a bag of a bag of difficulty here to start
off the year. Yeah, that's what I am. Okay, Yeah,
all right. I mean, also, do you have an issue
with the fact that they're being featured in primetime as
many times as they are? No, because I've seen that
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there's been you know, and I don't know if fatigue
is the right word, but you know, the Jets have
been a topic of conversation a lot since Rogers has
gotten there last year. All of that me if you're
the NFL and you realize he's on his way out
in the next year or two, you know, he's got
a limited amount of time left. Don't you want to
put him out there as many times as possible, even
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if they're not a good team, or if they're projected
to not be a good team, Like, why not throw
them out there in primetime as many.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Times music is gone. Just let it roll, just let
it rock.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Yeah, right, But I just look at it and I
go take advantage of it while you can. He's one
of the all time great players the league has ever seen.
I know, people may get tired of the fact that,
you know, he does these weekly hits with you know,
with Pat McAfee and a J Hawk. You know, he's
always in the news. He's doing interviews with either Tuck Tucker.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Cross, still doing this weekly hits the season.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Yeah, but it's during the season. But there was a
lot of people are like, why are we talking about
the Jets. They're an awful football team. It's like, well,
you know, they're one of the main talking points that
they're not on hard knocks this year, and we can
get into that later on. But I just look at
it and I go. The NFL is trying to take
advantage of this as many times as they can.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Clock is winding down on his air season and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
He's got a year or two left, you know, like
the Nathaniel Hacket stuff like, I think it's going to
be a fun storyline to watch. And for the record,
still a slight favorite to make the playoffs at minus
one twenty.
Speaker 10 (26:19):
Well if they I mean, look again, LeVar has not
been high on them. If they don't make the playoffs,
I mean, would you say, LeVar, They're going to blow
the whole thing up.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I said, that's what I think out of there.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
I mean, I would say this. You said, even if
they do make the playoffs, do you feel like that's
not enough?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I don't think making it is enough. I don't. I
think that.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Making the playoffs and making a run in the playoffs
are two different things. I think making it as a
wild card and going home after one game. I don't
know for the amount of time that Salah has been
the coach there, I don't know, And I don't know
that not only the way they view it. They're viewing,
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you know, Robert Salad. I don't know how they're viewing
Aaron Rodgers. It depends, I would maybe say, depending on
how they make it to the playoffs, if it's an
impressive making of the playoffs, like if they have a
pretty impressive season. And it's like one of those heartbreak
losses like I could see there'll possibly.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Be and then running it back. But I just think.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Just regularly, just just a normal This is the season
they made the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
They went home in the first round. I don't I
don't see.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Been to the playoffs in fourteen years. If they go
to the playoffs, I don't care if they lose by
nine hundred in the first round.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Yeah, and I know they come back.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Everybody should get a statue, so they should get Come on,
they're terrible. They've had one winning season since that time.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Awful. I don't think. I don't think it's good enough.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
All right, Well, I pretty disagree.
Speaker 10 (27:56):
But the one thing you pointed out that it's true
is it's not like the most difficult schedule of opponents.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
We could be wrong on these games.
Speaker 10 (28:03):
He started playing, but seven standalone games, six in primetime. Meanwhile,
Carolina has got none in primetime. Which it is that
opportunity to acknowledge a couple things as a former player
when you are when you see your schedule come out,
you get a pretty good idea of what the NFL
thinks about you based on how many primetime games you have.
If you don't have many primetime games or none at
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all in this case, they think you are going to stink.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
And then the last thing is the bye week.
Speaker 10 (28:31):
You're always looking for where the buye sits in to see,
especially for some of the guys who like to go
on a.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Vacation during that week.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Where it sits, you know, and in this case Week
twelve a little late in the season, but sits in
a decent spot for some of these teams to make
it run.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
For the record. DraftKings does have the odds for a
team to go oh to seventeen and the Carolina Panthers
twenty two to one. So if you are down on
the Carolina pants patch and the fighting David Tepper's twenty
two to one is.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
The payout for for Carolina to go, uh to go.
They're not going to go and seventeen.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
I just love that that they might not be too
far off from it, but they're not going to go
and seventeen. They actually got a decent squad. The question
is is, you know, can they pull it together? Can
they put it together? Well, they've been built on defense.
They got some players on offense, I mean Ken Bryce
young be you know, can he be better this year?
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Also?
Speaker 7 (29:32):
I mean, if the owner could stop throwing cups of
strych nine at fans, you know, while they're sitting at it.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Why would he be drinking strictin.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
I don't know, it's pretty disrespectful that.
Speaker 9 (29:40):
Would have something else last time?
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Yeah, I mean, like I've heard, I thought it was
potty gasoline.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
You know.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
You know that one boxer he you know, he put
it in a cup. Who was that the one that
knocked out Pacquiao one? Yeah, he used to you know,
he used to pack of thermis.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
By the way, a lot a lot of speculation about
that fight. When he knocked out Pakia at home, he
was some Garcia type agast. I mean, the way he
hit that man could gick agast. He knocked the life
out of that man. I mean, and he looked natural
the way that man hit the ground. I tell you
that lightning. By the way, the way people talk about
(30:26):
the Marquez Pacio rivalry really pisses me off. Why well,
I mean, you know, there was a draw and Pakia
won too close to First of all, Marques should be
thankful that he got to fight Pacio as many times
as he did the first fight, one of the judges
miscalculated his scorecard and they ruled it a draw. Otherwise
Pakia would have won that fight as well too. So
he's one in three technically against Pacquiao and yet would
(30:49):
never fight him again after he knocked him out.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I mean no, no, never again. He knocked the life
out of him. Man.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
That was like some Apollo. That was like some Apollo
Cree type stuff. The way he knocked him out, Man
packed like he was dead. He was piecing him up
to in that fight.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
He looked like he was dead.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, like dang, it's depressing, like sid a prayer. It
looks so bad. Out of there, Bruh looked like he
was gone.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
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Speaker 5 (31:26):
Right now.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
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Speaker 4 (31:34):
What's happening? How are we feeling?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
What's happening?
Speaker 12 (31:37):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Biggest takeaway for you from the schedule release is.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
One question, good question.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
They kind of screwed the Chiefs and Ravens, didn't they.
I Mean, for both those teams, they had to play
on Christmas Day a second year in a row. You know,
the Ravens are on the road for the second year
in a row, and then a different part of the
country for the second year in a row. You know.
I just I think that's like a little bit of
a tough draw, especially when you consider and all four
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of those teams, the Texans and the Steelers included, you know,
have designs on contending this year, and so you're taking
four you know, good teams and kind of putting them
in the spot where in week fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen
they got to play Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday, and then like
say one of those teams gets home field or locks
(32:27):
it up over that stretch, Well, then they're gonna have
to make the tough decision of like do we you know,
do we sit our guys in Week eighteen and go
on a twenty five day layoff. I think it would
be between that in the first playoff game. It's it's
a lot to contend with for those teams, you know,
And then I think the other thing is like the
Jets to see that they led the league and standalone games,
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led the league in primetime games. I think it was
an interesting debt by the league, you know that Aaron
Rodgers is going to stay healthy and that they're going
to be a really good team because obviously that sort
of blew up in the league's space last year. And
I don't know, guys, don't you think it's like a
little bit of a cruel twist after what happened the
week one last year to put them back on Monday
night football though this season, you know, yeah, like it
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just seems like that's very I don't know, like the
Thatt's like, it's already going to be a big storyline.
Aaron coming back off the off the Achilles. It's almost
like you're putting him back, and I know it's not
in the same place, but it's almost like you're putting
him back on the scene of the crime, you know,
in a certain way.
Speaker 10 (33:27):
Yeah, I mean he's taken on the player who was
involved in it, Leonard Floyd now plays for the San
Francisco forty nine ers, So that's part of it. I
do want to follow up on that with the Jets.
Do you think that someone in the NFL just has
like the red ass for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
I mean, it seems like the schedule too. They gave
them two separate times. They've got to play three games
in ten days or maybe ten one to eleven the other.
(33:51):
That seems a little bit brutal as well. We went
through their schedule. It's not the toughest group of teams
they've got to play in that stretch, but it just
seems like a lot in regards to travel and then
the amount of games at a short amount of time.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think, you know, Brady, the hard
truth is they've stopped caring about this. I mean, like
they used to be that they didn't have teams playing
multiple short weeks. It's not even counting when that game
multiple short weeks. Now you have fourteen teams doing it
this year, you know, So it's just you know, I
(34:24):
I think you know what the reality is that I
think like people who are really into it can see
the quality of play suffer. You know, we can see
when the quality of play is bad on a Thursday night, right,
But you know, at three forty five park. All they
see is the rate, and like that.
Speaker 12 (34:42):
Even if you're playing a substandard NFL game, is still
football on TV, And football on TV is going to
rate either way, and they can make money off of
that because it rates, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
And so I asked, you know, someone from the league
office last night, you know, like, when does enough become enough?
Like when have you pushed it to the limit where
you're really affecting the quality of play and you know,
maybe you're putting players in a tough spot from an
injury standpoint and all that. And the response I got was,
you know, simply that coaches and teams are doing a
(35:15):
better job of learning how to manage this, which is
probably true. But they're only doing They're only there because
they're being forced into that position.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
Have you given any thought to what coach going into
this season is in the best situation to have success?
Speaker 12 (35:34):
Which coach?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, have you given that any thought yet?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Well? I mean Andy Reid because Patrick Mahomes is on
his roster maybe all.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Right outside of the obvious, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, no, I mean as far as like who could be,
you know, like I who could be this year's version of.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
The Yes go correct correct.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Version of Demico. You know, I think Jim Harbaugh is
in a pretty good spot with the Chargers, and you know,
I think part of it. I heard Joel Klatt. He's
there's a really good line. He said something of something
along the lines of like instead of you know, forcing
Justin Herbert to be better and second and eleven, let's
get him in second and four more often. I thought
(36:19):
that was a really good way to describe what I
think Jim Harbaugh is going to do for the for
the Chargers. And I think he made a real statement
with his first pick, you know, and going and taking
Joe Ault even though you've already got Rashawn Slater at
left tackle, and and and and basically saying like we're
really going to lean into this. You know, I think
some teams, the way they operate, would say, well, you know,
(36:41):
we've got Rashawn Slater at tackle and we just offloaded
you know, Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. So you know,
now we got to go get ourselves a receiver. Let's
draft you know, Moligue Neighbors there at five, or let's
draft we're Omadunday there at five, and you know, instead
Jim Harbaugh did what. You know, I think he's always done,
you know, whether it's a Stanford Samford as go of Michigan,
he's leaned into the line of scrimmage and he's leaned
(37:03):
into the offensive line, and so you know, I think
that you know, you see some of the ads they
have in the backfield, you know, bringing in you know JK.
Dobbins and Gus Edwards, you know, from his brother's team.
I just think that the Chargers are in a spot
where Jim Harbaugh has always been able to come in
and effect real change right away. And if you look
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like they've got some of the same strengths that that
some of his teams in the past have had, especially
after the draft, and so I think they're in a
position to get the most out of Justin Herbert. You know,
I'd be surprised if the Chargers aren't contending well into
the December.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
In January, Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the mm QB.
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Jared Goff gets
his deal done, who's next?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
So I don't think it'll be Dak I what do
you say. I don't think, because the cowboys always wait,
and they always wait, you know what I mean, Like,
and I just think and they they had they've had
to pay the price for this so many different times,
you know, like Zach Martin, DeMarcus Lawrence, like the different
guys they've waited on paying guys in the past, and
(38:17):
it's almost like, you know, the guys stepping on the
you know, stepping on the two by four and it's
slamming him in the face over and over again, Like
they just keep making this mistake where they wait. I mean,
they've waited with Ceedee Lamb too, and the price has
gone up there because I'm mon Roth Saint Brown and
AJ Brown got deals and god knows what Justin Jefferson
is going to get in Minnesota. You know. So they've
(38:37):
they've kept waiting in these situations and so you know,
the remo has been to wait. And you know, so
I don't think that will be the next one. I
would say, I think it'll either be Jordan Love or
or or or to a tongue of below. And if
I had to guess, like gun to my head right now,
I'd say maybe Jordan Love is done first, you know.
(38:58):
I just think that the packers had been smart about
these things in the past. They got ahead of things
a little bit by extending him for a year last year,
and I think that there's the realization now this sort
of crystallizes things that you're not going to get a
You're not going to get a discount, you know what
I mean, Like you're not going to get him in
at like thirty five or forty you know, based on
Kirk getting forty five and and and GoF getting fifty three.
(39:21):
You're gonna have to pay him somewhere in that range.
So the packers have usually they have generally been pretty
realistic about these things. I think they get him done.
My guess is Tua gets done too, because the Dolphins
have done so many things that have sort of cleared
the decks for this, you know, getting rid of guys
like Gerald Baker and Xavian Howard this offseason, letting Christian
(39:43):
Wilkins go. You know, I think the Dolphins, you know,
also get Tua done at some point this summer. So
I'd say it'd be one of those who gets done
first by the guests. Right now today, Jordan Love.
Speaker 10 (39:53):
Talk to me a little bit about Netflix getting involved
with Christmas Day seventy five million per game. We talked
about it to start off the show. It just seems astronomical.
I don't know how these these networks, these streaming platforms
are going to be able to make any money off
of it.
Speaker 9 (40:08):
Is it just they want to.
Speaker 10 (40:09):
Be involved in the NFL and this is their first
kind of window in and there'll be a more fruitful
relationship on the backside.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, I mean I think you see some of this
stuff with hard knocks, you know, in the Quarterback series,
and I think I think that's part of it. Like,
I think this is just sort of part of it.
All in the thing and you know, one thing, like
you're a shirt if you put games on Brady is
you're gonna you're gonna have NFL fans and you're you know,
in when you do that, and so like, you know,
it's it's competing with other streaming services, and you know,
(40:39):
I think it's part of it too, is kind of
getting to an era where like it's like almost like
the cable bundle has been completely unwound now and so
you've got all these different things that you've got to
buy all the cart right like, and so whether it's
you know, Netflix, Amazon, Paramount Plus, Hulu where you're whatever
you're talking about, not everybody's going to get every one
of those services. And so, you know, I think a
(41:02):
big piece of this for those streaming services is we
don't want to be the one that doesn't have NFL
football because for a lot of Americans, you know, deciding
between one streaming service and another if you can't afford
to have all of them, might be which one has
NFL games on it, you know, So there's that piece
of it. And then if you have NFL fans in now,
you can sort of build programming around that and you
(41:24):
can do things like the Quarterbacks series, like the spin
offs of Hard Knocks, like I think that that's what
it is, is that the realization for the streaming services
that not every American is going to be able to
buy six or eight or ten of these, and so
you know, if there's a smaller group, a smaller subset
that has NFL games, you want to be in that subset.
Speaker 7 (41:45):
Abe last thing for you looking around the NFL and
just kind of seeing the way this is. And we're
not trying to end on a negative note, here, but
seeing the schedules out and whatnot, how bad are things
going to get in Carolina and New England this year?
Because if you go on DraftKings right now and you're
betting on teams to have the fewest wins, it looks
like those are the two at the top of the list.
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So how bad it could this get for those franchises.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I mean, if there's any lesson from those two franchises.
Speaker 12 (42:15):
It's be grateful for what you have.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
You know, obviously the end was messy with Brady and
Belichick in New England and maybe and maybe they could
have squeezed a couple more a year another year or
two out of those two and obviously that went the
wrong way. And then you look at the Panthers, I mean,
you know, like it's just like the whole idea of
you know, analytics in the NFL and everything else, and
(42:38):
you know, bringing these guys who are master asset managers
into the league and it's just I mean, at some
point you have to put good players in the field.
And you look at the number of guys and the
Panthers have offloaded like Christian McCaffrey, DJ Moore, Brian Burns,
It's like, dude, at some point, you have to have
good players on your team. It can't just be about
like having this like massive amount a cap space and
(43:00):
draft capital. So so yeah, I mean, if you're if
you if you're a fan of showing up for games
and rooting for you know, your first round pick, that's
you know, currently a sophomore in college, and I guess
the Panthers are your team, right, That's where it is, right,
you know what I mean? Like, it's just I think
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there are some lessons to be learned from two franchises
that won a lot over the last ten to fifty years.
Speaker 9 (43:25):
Well, what about Tennessee. I'm looking through their schedule.
Speaker 10 (43:27):
Now, that's another team that I look at their schedule
and kind of where they stack up even a much
their own division.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
I'm like, I don't know, man, it feels like that's
gonna be tough here too.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
This isn't sort of a retooling year for them anyway,
you know, Like with with Brian Callahan coming in, they've
restructured their front office for the second straight year. You know,
they're trying to modernize a lot of things there, and
they're trying to get an answer on Will Levis, you know,
and very clearly, you know, by not drafting a quarterback high,
and then by going in and putting pieces around him,
(43:59):
getting kaching Berry to play center, coming over from Denver,
bringing in Calvin Ridley, signing Tony pat Pollard from Dallas,
you know, and then drafting J. C. Latham. You know,
Really the focus here is like, we need an answer
on whether or not Will Levis is our quarterback of
the future. And so I think as they as they retool,
they try to create an environment for the quarterback where
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at the very least they can kind of get a
clear view of who he can be as an NFL player,
because there's a chance they'll be drafting high again in
twenty twenty five, and you know, at that point they
probably have to make a decision on whether or not
they're going to you know, turn the page again at
quarterback or not.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
Get them on Twitter at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the mmqb AB. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
We'll do it again next week, all right, guys,
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Speaker 6 (01:08):
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the Jonas spirit. It's gotta be the funniest s ever
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Speaker 5 (01:22):
We did dancing well.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
I thought he missed it because the song was almost over,
and then oh we're on.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
Least started moonwalking and robot walking across across the floor.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Did a moon bro bot.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Eddie came to life. He started going back and forth with.
Speaker 9 (01:45):
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Speaker 4 (01:48):
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Speaker 7 (01:49):
Lorraine is over it, though I can tell she was
in its course she was, by the way.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
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Speaker 7 (02:17):
So we were where we were first located in the
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view of the street so where you could see any
like if there was like the hobos, oh yeah, bums
pulling knives on each other or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
And people you try to figure out why are they
working out at this hour? Like what are you what
are you running for at this hour?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Drug addicts, hookers, strippers like you name it.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
They were on the dark side of things.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
I was just thinking, like somebody's like a CEO or
something like that, and they're getting their jogg in like
right now, literally like in their minds they're jogging.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I don't I don't understand it.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Uh, there's a U haul that has been pulled over
by police.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
And it'd be right in front of our it'd be
right in front of the window.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
But we're not in that studio anymore, but we could
still walk over there and look at it. And there's
like four or five cop cars. They're searching through the
U haul trying to find out what's inside of it,
and so we were just speculating what could possibly be inside.
You say, I hope it comes back a body, like
if they pull out just saying, if they pull out
a trash bag with a human being inside of it.
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We're gonna get on the news because the local news
will be here, and I think Lee needs to go
by and hold a sign up promoting our show on
the local news.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't know, man, let's head to the radio station. Dude,
you know, I saw big. I don't know if if.
Speaker 10 (03:40):
Lee did do it, could he be one of those
guys like spinning the sign and dancing, Yeah, like spinning
it and dancing it with like the old school headphones
on pulling here?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
I'm out, Lee, were you able to figure out at all,
like what sort of what's happening?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Out there. Did you get any information?
Speaker 7 (04:01):
I was peeking inside the back of the ULU before
they closed it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Before they closed it, What did you see inside?
Speaker 7 (04:08):
I saw a bicycle and some boxes.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
We'll bring them in.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I didn't want to get all up in their business,
yea inside.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
So yeah, we will keep you posted. Uh bye, sick.
Nowadays you never tell all right. So with that we
bleed over to this. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas NOx
with you here. The NFL schedule is out. There's been
some leaks and rumblings. We're gonna have all different aspects
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to the NFL schedule throughout the course of the show.
We're going to sprinkle them in here over the next
three hours. But how about the fact that Netflix just sides,
you know what, seventy five million dollars a game on Christmas?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
That'll work.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
And so Netflix, for one hundred and fifty million dollars
on Christmas is going to get the Chiefs at the
Steelers and the Ravens at the Texans, which is code
for nice knowing you, NBA and parts of your family,
because those are prime matchups we're going to get at.
Barring health, everybody's healthy and ready to go and playing
for all those teams. They've got some prime matchups for
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the low low price of seventy five million dollars a game.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's awesome.
Speaker 9 (05:35):
I mean, how do you make money on this stuff?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
What do you pay?
Speaker 9 (05:39):
Seriously?
Speaker 10 (05:41):
I mean, look, I think I think we can simplify
this enough to say this. You pay seventy five million
for one game. All right, you've got well, we say
three hours, three and a half hours. How are you
going to do it? How about this, Let's give the
entire week leading up to the game, okay, to advertise
for it, to you know, try to figure out ways
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of generating revenue around it.
Speaker 9 (06:04):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 10 (06:05):
I don't know how you make money off of that,
paying seventy five minus.
Speaker 9 (06:10):
There was a time when and I think Pro Football Talk.
Speaker 10 (06:13):
And Mike Floyer used to write about this, when the
ESPN would buy the wildcard games sure for like twenty
five million, and people would question how you make any
money off that?
Speaker 9 (06:25):
I don't mean, it's crazy. You look, obviously they're paying
for it.
Speaker 10 (06:29):
Folks at Netflix are smarter than I am, so they
must be figuring some way of making this work. But
it is crazy to me that there are, whether it's
a streaming platform or networks out there that are willing
to spend this kind of money, and I don't know
if it always means they end up.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
Becoming profitable from it.
Speaker 10 (06:49):
I'm not sure where this leads down the road, but
it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (06:53):
It's crazy to see.
Speaker 10 (06:54):
How much the NFL is able to make for a
singular game on Christmas.
Speaker 9 (07:00):
Par of that to the NBA.
Speaker 10 (07:01):
What do you think an NBA Christmas Day actually can
generate as far as revenue or profit or even let's
say you're auctioning that game off like best two teams,
what is that going to go.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
For fifty bucks? You know, like later, yeah, here's you know,
well skittles. We're asking for fifty but if you only
got two twenties on you, that'll work.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
I just rawberry shortcake, I don't know, creamsickle pop.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
And I know that discussion becomes, you know, with all
these streaming apps and places that you have to go
to watch it, you know, it's it's pricey to be
able to be an NFL fan. And some people have
discussed that and kind of broken down and we tried
to break down the numbers last week, and I think
we all got more confused by the numbers of different
streaming apps and places like that. I just I think
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the NFL knows they've got everybody by the balls at
this point, and I just don't see a way that
people are going to just push back and say, no,
I'm sorry, I'm just not interested in watching this anymore
unless the product just gets worse and worse and worse
and lacks such star power, which I just don't see
happening anytime soon.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Are there going to be in game commercials like a
regular network television game and do they control that?
Speaker 10 (08:15):
Yes, they control it one and two. Yes, I believe
there's going to be.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
So, I mean, they may feel like they already have
enough advertisers to offset, you know, based off of what
they were willing to pay. They got to know what
they're willing to pay, right with the threashold or what
they're willing to pay.
Speaker 10 (08:34):
So I'll simply try to kind of break it down, Right,
if you have a broadcast partner, you're basing a lot
of your revenue off of advertising.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
A lot of people think that, well, yeah, you pay a.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
Subscription fee for your cable, but with broadcast linear television,
you can tune in and get a signal, right, So
you can't necessarily bank on that. So let's just say,
you know, if it's a Fox, A CBS and ABC,
any of those, NBC, there's a broadcast thing you can
tune into, put the rabbitt ears up, you can get
that channel.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Right.
Speaker 10 (09:04):
So traditionally you used to say, like we can get
X amount of dollars having so many windows for commercials
that we've sold in order to make money on whatever
this cost to pay for it.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Right.
Speaker 10 (09:17):
So with Netflix, it's different because they have subscribers. It's
just kind of similarly more to a cable model. The
only difference is like they're not being bundled in there,
like it's a direct to consumer. They know exactly what
every single person is doing that's subscribing to their streaming app.
They know all those things about you, right, So they're
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paying whatever monthly fee it is, and maybe it's with advertising,
maybe it's not.
Speaker 9 (09:41):
Now that's what's going to be interesting is I think
if you're going.
Speaker 10 (09:44):
To be a part of the live entertainment games, even
for people who have a subscription, that's a higher end
a subscription where they don't watch commercials, they're probably going
to have to in this case, just because that's part
of the business model.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
So it's just it's a little different.
Speaker 10 (10:02):
But again, I think what a lot of a lot
of streaming apps and people are doing is they're just like,
we want in on this.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
We may not make money at.
Speaker 10 (10:12):
First, but once we get more like, we'll find a
way to make money off this when it's all said
and done, when we force people to come here and
subscribe and watch, you know, the different commercials and whatnot
that come along with these live events.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Yeah, I would just assume that there's so much data
connected to what you're able to collect as a streaming
service that strategic ad insertions is such a big thing.
At this point, you can almost predict out what it
would cost, like what each person or what each advertiser
would need to pay per I don't know, whatever it
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may be, you know, per mention, whatever whatever the deliverables
would be. You'd have to assume they package this thing
up and they say here's what we can sell, here's
what we can make, and based off of whatever it
is they would look at being their profit margin, you'd
have to assume that was why they were willing to
pay what they were willing to pay.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
No, I just think they're trying to get it on it, Like,
I really don't think they're gonna make money off of it.
Speaker 8 (11:12):
There's just there's no It's not necessarily that they make
money off of it per se, but they're definitely going
to try to offset the hard expenses connection to whatever
it is that they're doing well.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
I think what happens too is if you think about
when you have a live event like that, you can
base hey, we've got you know, maybe a Jerry Jones
ten part docuseries, and we're gonna ge people who want.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
To want to watch that.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
What you're trying to do, if you're a streaming app,
you're just trying to get people to stay there longer.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
It's like any app. It's like Instagram.
Speaker 10 (11:42):
You know, when you have someone who logs on Instagram,
their entire job at Instagram is to get you or
met it in this case, is to get you to
stay there because the log you stay there, the more
ads you see, the more they can track what you're
doing and what your habits are. And that's the same
thing with Netflix, even though it's not the traditional applete
were talking about on your phone. In a sense, even
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though someone it's gonna be watching their phone, that's what
they're trying to get from you.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
So it's not so much about just hey, this game.
Speaker 10 (12:09):
Do we make money off this one singular game or
these two games on Christmas?
Speaker 9 (12:13):
It's probably about everything else involved.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
But it's also showing the NFL this is what we
can do, this is the product that we can sell,
and once they get their foot in the door, it
opens it up, I think, to allowing them to have
more games, more access to being a bigger player in
the future.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You know.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
In a weird way, COVID ended up being a good thing.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
For the NFL, great thing for Netflix.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
I mean, because I just think that, and they've talked
about how like the UFC, the viewership for the UFC
grew during COVID because it was one of the only
events that was going on, and the NFL was able
to hold an entire season. There was no they didn't
miss any time, they had a Super Bowl, they had
all that stuff, And I wonder if you just look
back all these years later and go there were certain
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businesses that thrive during all that or benefited from it.
That were shut down, and it's terrible, but there were
certain that have thrived because of it. And I wonder
how much long term success that gave the NFL, or
revenue that gave the NFL. The fact that they were
still able to put on in empty stadiums an entire season,
and it's led to everything they've done here.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
So I have to think about that, they went through
an entire season.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Where nobody there, like make believe crowds in stands, and
yet here we are. And if you would have said
during COVID Netflix is going to be paying seventy five
million dollars a game for Christmas games, it'd be like,
hold on, can we just make sure nobody nobody like
dies of COVID here, We make sure nothing happens here
on the field, and just a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
We shall pivot.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
I'll tell you that crazy to think that a streaming
company that's going to take, you know, the rights to
stream old movies and documentary aries and stuff like that.
Now they go live and now you're starting to see
them again replaced. I was I was trying to figure
out why pay per view has been you know, like
for boxing like why did Showtime go away? You know,
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why did pay per view and different things like that
go away? Because these streaming platforms is they're they're monopolizing.
I mean, who whatever thought you're going to go from
that streaming Like if you think about it, Kaleid Escape
was the first. Like that was like the first you
know streaming deal where you uploaded your your DVD and
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you could go on to the platform, the Kalide Escape
and it was on demand for all of the DVDs
that you you know, uploaded to your system.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh yeah, I don't even remember that. Yeah, it was
the coolest thing.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
You go down, you download your your DVD, you can
get rid of your DVD or you know whatever store
whatever happens, you know, they get scratched, they skip whatever.
That was the first streaming Like you're streaming, but you're
streaming with the system in your home. Now it turns
into you have streaming like you know YouTube. Whoever thought
YouTube would turn into a place where you could see live,
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live action on things or see you know, something other
than just short form content being posted. It turns into
like almost they're their own TV stations now, like literally
the not even a station they're they're their own TV,
like their network. It's pretty crazy, man, It's pretty crazy
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because you can continue to pivot as long as you
have the capabilities of being able to support what it
is that you're doing technology wise, you can continue to
evolve into things that you know, your mind can't even
fathom where it's all going, you know, what that fan
experience could possibly be going through these these platforms. I
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think it's interesting because it's cutting edge, it's it's innovative,
and it's bringing it's furthering, you know, kind of this
whole where is where is technology haking entertainment? And how
does how does sports like a sport like football, how
does it how does it play a major part in
and that pushing forward? So something intriguing the watch, I'll
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tell you that because one of the biggest things we
were worrying about or thinking about with Prime was how
how is that going to work? You know, how's how's
the streaming, the lagging all those things? How is it
going working? I mean, they got through it. There were
a couple of hiccups that seemed like, but they got
through it.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
Well, and they're still not reaching as big of an audience.
I mean, that's that's been proven and the other issue is,
I think for for Netflix, what's what's different is excuse
me on Christmas Day, Like you know, it's gonna be
a big game, Like, you know, it's meaningful to the NFL,
it's meaningful obviousitly to Netflix and everyone else who's watching.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
So the difference is.
Speaker 10 (16:49):
When you, you know, sign up for a Thursday football packages,
you're gonna have some crap bad games, like let's be real,
and no one's gonna tell you that more than Al Michaels.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
So it's just part of the deal.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
When you sign up for the entire season, one game
a week, not every single one is.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Gonna be a banger.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You know.
Speaker 10 (17:05):
It's like the old albums back in the day. You know,
we used to buy albums because pretty much every song
used to be legit. Well, as more things have spread
to more primetime, more of a demand by broadcast partners
and streaming you know, platforms and networks, you know, now
it's like, all right, a little bit different. You know,
you're not gonna have quite as many quality matchups. This
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is a cornerstone to the NFL moving forward to squash
out the NBA to highlight their product on a holiday
that the NBA used to try to cove it.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
Now it's all changed.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
So it's smart in the sense of like, yes, they're
overpaying for one singular game or two games, but they
know they're gonna get marquee matchups and an audience that
could be one of the biggest of the entire season
outside of you know, maybe as we get to the playoffs,
super Bowl, you know, that sort of thing. But at
least during the regular season, it should be a massive audience.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
That used to be the worst when a band would
come out or a group would come out with just
a banger of a hit and you're like, man, I
gotta go get that album, and then you realize the
other eleven songs sucked.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Ass football, damn, Like, when's the single come out?
Speaker 7 (18:18):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah? Yeah, that's too bad.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
Well, at least you have a stake at halftime, there
is that.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
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Speaker 7 (19:09):
LeVar Arrington, Oh is probably feeling a little bit more
confident about a bold proclamation he made on the show
earlier this week. You see guys like Brady and I.
We have thrown our support into the New York Jets
and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah we have.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
We have one of the all time greats go out
and stops hell. Yeah Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, And we've
done our part to try and defend Aaron Rodgers, and
defend Robert Sala and defend the New York Jets organization.
And apparently the NFL is on the side of LeVar
Arrington because the schedule has come out and the New York.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Jets got absolutely host.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
You talk about a shop job from the National Football League.
You open up on Monday night, you're at the Niners.
Then you're on the road in weeked at the Titans.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
That's not bad.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Then you get a home game, but it's on a
short week against the Patriots. You get the Broncos after
that at home.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
That's not bad.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Yeah, and then you're going to London. You've also got
two Sunday to Thursday turnarounds. And everyone's like, well, you're
being featured in prime time, as they should be, but
they're being featured in primetime and they're also getting dealt
a bag of crap by the NFL. And I'm sick
of it. I'm tired of the district. So bad about
what you just said. That's all manageable. What are you
talking about?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
What you mean.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
That's a tough schedule, man?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
What do you mean? What do you mean tough as
in like turnaround time and stuff like that.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
I get that they play three games in ten days,
by the way, which I don't even know if that's.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
They play three games in ten days.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
Once they play three games in eleven days another separate
time before they're buying Week twelve, start off back to
back weeks on the road. Before they come back for
a short week for divisional opponent, they go off.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
To London, which you know is where it is. But
think about that.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
That's a lot of travel, that's a it's a lot
of games in a short amount of time in the
first part of the season.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well, you know that's what they do with your schedule
when you stink.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
That, Or maybe it's it's twofold.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
I think it's the fact that they want to get
in on Aaron Rodgers potentially before he gets hurt. No,
it took four plays last year, so like, hey, we
got to front load this baby. There's that element of it.
And I also do wonder, because Aaron Rodgers has not
been afraid to voice his opinion publicly in a bunch
of different ways, I do wonder if the NFL office
has a little bit of a red ass. I mean,
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I'll say this, LeVar, any team you went to, every
single team trying to get you to toe the company line,
if you stepped out of line, if you spoke out
of line, I should say that was a problem.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
That was a problem for the team.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
You know, whatever you said that didn't fall in line
with whatever the team wont you say that's a problem.
Speaker 9 (22:01):
Rogers has gotten kind of above and beyond that.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
He's he's just such a big figure for the Jets
in the sense of the decisions they make, the decisions
they don't make.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
He factors into all of that.
Speaker 10 (22:13):
So I do wonder if the NFL office feels like
they need to take a more active approach and saying,
all right, let's just go ahead and load up all
these Monday night, Thursday night, Monday night football, Sunday night football,
another Thursday night, Sunday night, all in eleven weeks, to
load it up and make it a little bit of
a more difficult road if if he wants to not
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tow the company line.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
If you will, do you think about that far? I mean,
it's an interesting conspiracy theory. Yeah, can get.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
I games? Good?
Speaker 8 (22:49):
You guys, go ahead, I got the conspiracy theory on.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
You don't think it's a little odd that that team
would open up with three games and ten days. Three
in ten days, you're going at the Niners. You're traveling
all the way back. I got like that whole lineup,
that whole schedule. It's kind of a pain in the ass.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Yeah, I mean, I don't listen. I think what you
guys are saying is logical. But I think there's only
one team in there that you don't if you had
to do it, if that's what your schedule is going
to be, I mean, I would want it against those
teams outside of the Niners. The rest of them are manageable.
Name one of those games that isn't manageable.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I think got Pittsburgh's not easy. But you're not high
on them this year.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I'm not not yet.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
You still on a short week is going to be tough.
They're really good.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
That's not bad. That's that's I mean, I get it.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Yeah, to your point, it's a valid point.
Speaker 10 (23:44):
Like it's not the most difficult schedule outside of San Francisco.
It's more about the travel. It's more about the exposure
everything else.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
If that's what you're going to have, you don't have
what choice over what you're going to have. So if
that's what you're gonna have, I'd rather have manageable teams.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
What's interesting is they have the twelfth hardest scale according
to last year's win percentage of the opponents they're facing,
which they had the tenth worst record this past.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Year, So I guess that's somewhat close to being fair.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
It's messed up, man's disrespect. God forbid, the guy has
some opinions that different from somebody else, and the NFL
has got to throw them.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You know, just what's wrong with you?
Speaker 7 (24:25):
What do you mean, man, God forbid, the guy's got
some opinions that are different from somebody else, and the
NFL has got to throw them. You know, just just
a bag of a bag of difficulty here to start
off the year. Yeah, that's what I am. Okay, Yeah,
all right. I mean, also, do you have an issue
with the fact that they're being featured in primetime as
many times as they are? No, because I've seen that
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there's been you know, and I don't know if fatigue
is the right word, but you know, the Jets have
been a topic of conversation a lot since Rogers has
gotten there last year. All of that me if you're
the NFL and you realize he's on his way out
in the next year or two, you know, he's got
a limited amount of time left. Don't you want to
put him out there as many times as possible, even
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if they're not a good team, or if they're projected
to not be a good team, Like, why not throw
them out there in primetime as many.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Times music is gone. Just let it roll, just let
it rock.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Yeah, right, But I just look at it and I
go take advantage of it while you can. He's one
of the all time great players the league has ever seen.
I know, people may get tired of the fact that,
you know, he does these weekly hits with you know,
with Pat McAfee and a J Hawk. You know, he's
always in the news. He's doing interviews with either Tuck Tucker.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Cross, still doing this weekly hits the season.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Yeah, but it's during the season. But there was a
lot of people are like, why are we talking about
the Jets. They're an awful football team. It's like, well,
you know, they're one of the main talking points that
they're not on hard knocks this year, and we can
get into that later on. But I just look at
it and I go. The NFL is trying to take
advantage of this as many times as they can.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Clock is winding down on his air season and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
He's got a year or two left, you know, like
the Nathaniel Hacket stuff like, I think it's going to
be a fun storyline to watch. And for the record,
still a slight favorite to make the playoffs at minus
one twenty.
Speaker 10 (26:19):
Well if they I mean, look again, LeVar has not
been high on them. If they don't make the playoffs,
I mean, would you say, LeVar, They're going to blow
the whole thing up.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I said, that's what I think out of there.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
I mean, I would say this. You said, even if
they do make the playoffs, do you feel like that's
not enough?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I don't think making it is enough. I don't. I
think that.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Making the playoffs and making a run in the playoffs
are two different things. I think making it as a
wild card and going home after one game. I don't
know for the amount of time that Salah has been
the coach there, I don't know, And I don't know
that not only the way they view it. They're viewing,
(27:02):
you know, Robert Salad. I don't know how they're viewing
Aaron Rodgers. It depends, I would maybe say, depending on
how they make it to the playoffs, if it's an
impressive making of the playoffs, like if they have a
pretty impressive season. And it's like one of those heartbreak
losses like I could see there'll possibly.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Be and then running it back. But I just think.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Just regularly, just just a normal This is the season
they made the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
They went home in the first round. I don't I
don't see.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Been to the playoffs in fourteen years. If they go
to the playoffs, I don't care if they lose by
nine hundred in the first round.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Yeah, and I know they come back.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Everybody should get a statue, so they should get Come on,
they're terrible. They've had one winning season since that time.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Awful. I don't think. I don't think it's good enough.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
All right, Well, I pretty disagree.
Speaker 10 (27:56):
But the one thing you pointed out that it's true
is it's not like the most difficult schedule of opponents.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
We could be wrong on these games.
Speaker 10 (28:03):
He started playing, but seven standalone games, six in primetime. Meanwhile,
Carolina has got none in primetime. Which it is that
opportunity to acknowledge a couple things as a former player
when you are when you see your schedule come out,
you get a pretty good idea of what the NFL
thinks about you based on how many primetime games you have.
If you don't have many primetime games or none at
(28:25):
all in this case, they think you are going to stink.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
And then the last thing is the bye week.
Speaker 10 (28:31):
You're always looking for where the buye sits in to see,
especially for some of the guys who like to go
on a.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Vacation during that week.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Where it sits, you know, and in this case Week
twelve a little late in the season, but sits in
a decent spot for some of these teams to make
it run.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
For the record. DraftKings does have the odds for a
team to go oh to seventeen and the Carolina Panthers
twenty two to one. So if you are down on
the Carolina pants patch and the fighting David Tepper's twenty
two to one is.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
The payout for for Carolina to go, uh to go.
They're not going to go and seventeen.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
I just love that that they might not be too
far off from it, but they're not going to go
and seventeen. They actually got a decent squad. The question
is is, you know, can they pull it together? Can
they put it together? Well, they've been built on defense.
They got some players on offense, I mean Ken Bryce
young be you know, can he be better this year?
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Also?
Speaker 7 (29:32):
I mean, if the owner could stop throwing cups of
strych nine at fans, you know, while they're sitting at it.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Why would he be drinking strictin.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
I don't know, it's pretty disrespectful that.
Speaker 9 (29:40):
Would have something else last time?
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Yeah, I mean, like I've heard, I thought it was
potty gasoline.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
You know.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
You know that one boxer he you know, he put
it in a cup. Who was that the one that
knocked out Pacquiao one? Yeah, he used to you know,
he used to pack of thermis.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
By the way, a lot a lot of speculation about
that fight. When he knocked out Pakia at home, he
was some Garcia type agast. I mean, the way he
hit that man could gick agast. He knocked the life
out of that man. I mean, and he looked natural
the way that man hit the ground. I tell you
that lightning. By the way, the way people talk about
(30:26):
the Marquez Pacio rivalry really pisses me off. Why well,
I mean, you know, there was a draw and Pakia
won too close to First of all, Marques should be
thankful that he got to fight Pacio as many times
as he did the first fight, one of the judges
miscalculated his scorecard and they ruled it a draw. Otherwise
Pakia would have won that fight as well too. So
he's one in three technically against Pacquiao and yet would
(30:49):
never fight him again after he knocked him out.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I mean no, no, never again. He knocked the life
out of him. Man.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
That was like some Apollo. That was like some Apollo
Cree type stuff. The way he knocked him out, Man
packed like he was dead. He was piecing him up
to in that fight.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
He looked like he was dead.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, like dang, it's depressing, like sid a prayer. It
looks so bad. Out of there, Bruh looked like he
was gone.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
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Speaker 5 (31:26):
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Speaker 7 (31:27):
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Speaker 4 (31:34):
What's happening? How are we feeling?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
What's happening?
Speaker 12 (31:37):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Biggest takeaway for you from the schedule release is.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
One question, good question.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
They kind of screwed the Chiefs and Ravens, didn't they.
I Mean, for both those teams, they had to play
on Christmas Day a second year in a row. You know,
the Ravens are on the road for the second year
in a row, and then a different part of the
country for the second year in a row. You know.
I just I think that's like a little bit of
a tough draw, especially when you consider and all four
(32:06):
of those teams, the Texans and the Steelers included, you know,
have designs on contending this year, and so you're taking
four you know, good teams and kind of putting them
in the spot where in week fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen
they got to play Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday, and then like
say one of those teams gets home field or locks
(32:27):
it up over that stretch, Well, then they're gonna have
to make the tough decision of like do we you know,
do we sit our guys in Week eighteen and go
on a twenty five day layoff. I think it would
be between that in the first playoff game. It's it's
a lot to contend with for those teams, you know,
And then I think the other thing is like the
Jets to see that they led the league and standalone games,
(32:50):
led the league in primetime games. I think it was
an interesting debt by the league, you know that Aaron
Rodgers is going to stay healthy and that they're going
to be a really good team because obviously that sort
of blew up in the league's space last year. And
I don't know, guys, don't you think it's like a
little bit of a cruel twist after what happened the
week one last year to put them back on Monday
night football though this season, you know, yeah, like it
(33:11):
just seems like that's very I don't know, like the
Thatt's like, it's already going to be a big storyline.
Aaron coming back off the off the Achilles. It's almost
like you're putting him back, and I know it's not
in the same place, but it's almost like you're putting
him back on the scene of the crime, you know,
in a certain way.
Speaker 10 (33:27):
Yeah, I mean he's taken on the player who was
involved in it, Leonard Floyd now plays for the San
Francisco forty nine ers, So that's part of it. I
do want to follow up on that with the Jets.
Do you think that someone in the NFL just has
like the red ass for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
I mean, it seems like the schedule too. They gave
them two separate times. They've got to play three games
in ten days or maybe ten one to eleven the other.
(33:51):
That seems a little bit brutal as well. We went
through their schedule. It's not the toughest group of teams
they've got to play in that stretch, but it just
seems like a lot in regards to travel and then
the amount of games at a short amount of time.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think, you know, Brady, the hard
truth is they've stopped caring about this. I mean, like
they used to be that they didn't have teams playing
multiple short weeks. It's not even counting when that game
multiple short weeks. Now you have fourteen teams doing it
this year, you know, So it's just you know, I
(34:24):
I think you know what the reality is that I
think like people who are really into it can see
the quality of play suffer. You know, we can see
when the quality of play is bad on a Thursday night, right,
But you know, at three forty five park. All they
see is the rate, and like that.
Speaker 12 (34:42):
Even if you're playing a substandard NFL game, is still
football on TV, And football on TV is going to
rate either way, and they can make money off of
that because it rates, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
And so I asked, you know, someone from the league
office last night, you know, like, when does enough become enough?
Like when have you pushed it to the limit where
you're really affecting the quality of play and you know,
maybe you're putting players in a tough spot from an
injury standpoint and all that. And the response I got was,
you know, simply that coaches and teams are doing a
(35:15):
better job of learning how to manage this, which is
probably true. But they're only doing They're only there because
they're being forced into that position.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
Have you given any thought to what coach going into
this season is in the best situation to have success?
Speaker 12 (35:34):
Which coach?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, have you given that any thought yet?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Well? I mean Andy Reid because Patrick Mahomes is on
his roster maybe all.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Right outside of the obvious, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, no, I mean as far as like who could be,
you know, like I who could be this year's version of.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
The Yes go correct correct.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Version of Demico. You know, I think Jim Harbaugh is
in a pretty good spot with the Chargers, and you know,
I think part of it. I heard Joel Klatt. He's
there's a really good line. He said something of something
along the lines of like instead of you know, forcing
Justin Herbert to be better and second and eleven, let's
get him in second and four more often. I thought
(36:19):
that was a really good way to describe what I
think Jim Harbaugh is going to do for the for
the Chargers. And I think he made a real statement
with his first pick, you know, and going and taking
Joe Ault even though you've already got Rashawn Slater at
left tackle, and and and and basically saying like we're
really going to lean into this. You know, I think
some teams, the way they operate, would say, well, you know,
(36:41):
we've got Rashawn Slater at tackle and we just offloaded
you know, Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. So you know,
now we got to go get ourselves a receiver. Let's
draft you know, Moligue Neighbors there at five, or let's
draft we're Omadunday there at five, and you know, instead
Jim Harbaugh did what. You know, I think he's always done,
you know, whether it's a Stanford Samford as go of Michigan,
he's leaned into the line of scrimmage and he's leaned
(37:03):
into the offensive line, and so you know, I think
that you know, you see some of the ads they
have in the backfield, you know, bringing in you know JK.
Dobbins and Gus Edwards, you know, from his brother's team.
I just think that the Chargers are in a spot
where Jim Harbaugh has always been able to come in
and effect real change right away. And if you look
(37:25):
like they've got some of the same strengths that that
some of his teams in the past have had, especially
after the draft, and so I think they're in a
position to get the most out of Justin Herbert. You know,
I'd be surprised if the Chargers aren't contending well into
the December.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
In January, Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the mm QB.
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Jared Goff gets
his deal done, who's next?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
So I don't think it'll be Dak I what do
you say. I don't think, because the cowboys always wait,
and they always wait, you know what I mean, Like,
and I just think and they they had they've had
to pay the price for this so many different times,
you know, like Zach Martin, DeMarcus Lawrence, like the different
guys they've waited on paying guys in the past, and
(38:17):
it's almost like, you know, the guys stepping on the
you know, stepping on the two by four and it's
slamming him in the face over and over again, Like
they just keep making this mistake where they wait. I mean,
they've waited with Ceedee Lamb too, and the price has
gone up there because I'm mon Roth Saint Brown and
AJ Brown got deals and god knows what Justin Jefferson
is going to get in Minnesota. You know. So they've
(38:37):
they've kept waiting in these situations and so you know,
the remo has been to wait. And you know, so
I don't think that will be the next one. I
would say, I think it'll either be Jordan Love or
or or or to a tongue of below. And if
I had to guess, like gun to my head right now,
I'd say maybe Jordan Love is done first, you know.
(38:58):
I just think that the packers had been smart about
these things in the past. They got ahead of things
a little bit by extending him for a year last year,
and I think that there's the realization now this sort
of crystallizes things that you're not going to get a
You're not going to get a discount, you know what
I mean, Like you're not going to get him in
at like thirty five or forty you know, based on
Kirk getting forty five and and and GoF getting fifty three.
(39:21):
You're gonna have to pay him somewhere in that range.
So the packers have usually they have generally been pretty
realistic about these things. I think they get him done.
My guess is Tua gets done too, because the Dolphins
have done so many things that have sort of cleared
the decks for this, you know, getting rid of guys
like Gerald Baker and Xavian Howard this offseason, letting Christian
(39:43):
Wilkins go. You know, I think the Dolphins, you know,
also get Tua done at some point this summer. So
I'd say it'd be one of those who gets done
first by the guests. Right now today, Jordan Love.
Speaker 10 (39:53):
Talk to me a little bit about Netflix getting involved
with Christmas Day seventy five million per game. We talked
about it to start off the show. It just seems astronomical.
I don't know how these these networks, these streaming platforms
are going to be able to make any money off
of it.
Speaker 9 (40:08):
Is it just they want to.
Speaker 10 (40:09):
Be involved in the NFL and this is their first
kind of window in and there'll be a more fruitful
relationship on the backside.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, I mean I think you see some of this
stuff with hard knocks, you know, in the Quarterback series,
and I think I think that's part of it. Like,
I think this is just sort of part of it.
All in the thing and you know, one thing, like
you're a shirt if you put games on Brady is
you're gonna you're gonna have NFL fans and you're you know,
in when you do that, and so like, you know,
it's it's competing with other streaming services, and you know,
(40:39):
I think it's part of it too, is kind of
getting to an era where like it's like almost like
the cable bundle has been completely unwound now and so
you've got all these different things that you've got to
buy all the cart right like, and so whether it's
you know, Netflix, Amazon, Paramount Plus, Hulu where you're whatever
you're talking about, not everybody's going to get every one
of those services. And so, you know, I think a
(41:02):
big piece of this for those streaming services is we
don't want to be the one that doesn't have NFL
football because for a lot of Americans, you know, deciding
between one streaming service and another if you can't afford
to have all of them, might be which one has
NFL games on it, you know, So there's that piece
of it. And then if you have NFL fans in now,
you can sort of build programming around that and you
(41:24):
can do things like the Quarterbacks series, like the spin
offs of Hard Knocks, like I think that that's what
it is, is that the realization for the streaming services
that not every American is going to be able to
buy six or eight or ten of these, and so
you know, if there's a smaller group, a smaller subset
that has NFL games, you want to be in that subset.
Speaker 7 (41:45):
Abe last thing for you looking around the NFL and
just kind of seeing the way this is. And we're
not trying to end on a negative note, here, but
seeing the schedules out and whatnot, how bad are things
going to get in Carolina and New England this year?
Because if you go on DraftKings right now and you're
betting on teams to have the fewest wins, it looks
like those are the two at the top of the list.
(42:07):
So how bad it could this get for those franchises.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I mean, if there's any lesson from those two franchises.
Speaker 12 (42:15):
It's be grateful for what you have.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
You know, obviously the end was messy with Brady and
Belichick in New England and maybe and maybe they could
have squeezed a couple more a year another year or
two out of those two and obviously that went the
wrong way. And then you look at the Panthers, I mean,
you know, like it's just like the whole idea of
you know, analytics in the NFL and everything else, and
(42:38):
you know, bringing these guys who are master asset managers
into the league and it's just I mean, at some
point you have to put good players in the field.
And you look at the number of guys and the
Panthers have offloaded like Christian McCaffrey, DJ Moore, Brian Burns,
It's like, dude, at some point, you have to have
good players on your team. It can't just be about
like having this like massive amount a cap space and
(43:00):
draft capital. So so yeah, I mean, if you're if
you if you're a fan of showing up for games
and rooting for you know, your first round pick, that's
you know, currently a sophomore in college, and I guess
the Panthers are your team, right, That's where it is, right,
you know what I mean? Like, it's just I think
(43:20):
there are some lessons to be learned from two franchises
that won a lot over the last ten to fifty years.
Speaker 9 (43:25):
Well, what about Tennessee. I'm looking through their schedule.
Speaker 10 (43:27):
Now, that's another team that I look at their schedule
and kind of where they stack up even a much
their own division.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
I'm like, I don't know, man, it feels like that's
gonna be tough here too.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
This isn't sort of a retooling year for them anyway,
you know, Like with with Brian Callahan coming in, they've
restructured their front office for the second straight year. You know,
they're trying to modernize a lot of things there, and
they're trying to get an answer on Will Levis, you know,
and very clearly, you know, by not drafting a quarterback high,
and then by going in and putting pieces around him,
(43:59):
getting kaching Berry to play center, coming over from Denver,
bringing in Calvin Ridley, signing Tony pat Pollard from Dallas,
you know, and then drafting J. C. Latham. You know,
Really the focus here is like, we need an answer
on whether or not Will Levis is our quarterback of
the future. And so I think as they as they retool,
they try to create an environment for the quarterback where
(44:21):
at the very least they can kind of get a
clear view of who he can be as an NFL player,
because there's a chance they'll be drafting high again in
twenty twenty five, and you know, at that point they
probably have to make a decision on whether or not
they're going to you know, turn the page again at
quarterback or not.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
Get them on Twitter at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the mmqb AB. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
We'll do it again next week, all right, guys,
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