May 6, 2024 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
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bang bang bang that stuff. Man, I could guarantee you
they're talking about what happened, what I drove through earlier
on on eyewitness.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
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find it out. Let's see. Oh no, that's right here.
It is four.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
That's right here, not far from here. It is two pros.
That's the one here on Fox Sports was trying to avoid. Yeah,
so there's more than one, or maybe that's the one.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
For those of you listening across the country, we were
trying to figure out, uh, LeVar passed by a pretty
bad wreck.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So we're trying to show up here.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
It was so bad, I thought I'll just say this, like,
if you're still out there driving drunk, get a clue. Man,
not smart, Not a good move, and you just put
a lot of people in jeopardy, like get an uber,
get a cab, like what, there's options? Now, use your
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chevro legs, whatever whatever it takes. Get to where you
need to go. But stay off the roads because I
saw some people driving in that they look like.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I didn't even think about I didn't even put that together,
like now that you're saying it, like, man was getting
ripped just dumb. Yeah, man, that was a bad one.
I'm telling you that one was bad. That was a bad, bad,
bad one. That was a bad one. That's that's the
worst I've ever seen with my own two eyes. Yeah,
I've seen some pretty bad ones.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That's rough. Well listen, uh, here's what else is rough?
What else?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
We kind of thought about this because as we were,
you know, we finished last hour talking about the Tom
Brady roast, and we were wondering, all right, so when
he did when he does this roast, what is what
is it going to look like? And who's going to
be in attendance? And you had former Patriots players. You
had some guys from the Bucks that were there. But
you had Edelman, Gronk, you know, Tom Brady's good buddies,
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his crew there. You had Kim Kardashian was there for
some reason.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I mean, everybody need to get in on the exposure
of it, right, Yeah, of course that's that's a ton
of exposure you could get doing it.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You had Belichick who was there, you know, he he
took a shot at Rob Gronkowski.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, like that after party, Oh god, I.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Mean they were partying on stage and and having a
good time. Belichick was up there with Robert Kraft and
and we played the sound you know of the you know,
Robert Craft toasting to Belichick or whatever, and Belichick made
a joke about how, you know, this is Tom Brady's roast,
not to be confused with the roast that Apple TV
did on Our on Our Dynasty.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So yeah, yeah, And because that's what it turned into,
and that's why so many people were upset. And Robert Kraft,
who is you know Craft LLC on the credits like
that was that was his thing.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And so him having to.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Come out afterwards and then having to do a shot
on stage with Belichick like he's really trying to repair
his Yeah, because it just it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And good good for tom Brady helping him, like he
gave him a platform for him to be able to
try to help him. Yeah, right, I mean, if you
think about he gave Belichick an opportunity to to have
his have his moment.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And and for Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
And we kind of made this point last week, it
is interesting to see how the tide has turned on
Belichick to where now you're like, well, it's gone from
Belichick's the guy who's the problem, Who's the guy who's
the issue in New England, to well, if he doesn't
work and or if he goes somewhere and has success
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and Tom Brady goes somewhere and has success, the guy
left their hold in the bag is going to be
Robert Kraft because they're going to look at Robert Craft
and say, okay, well maybe it's you who couldn't do
it without those guys, and if they go and have
success elsewhere, and that was sort of what Belichick had
speculated with. So just from my eyes, I looked at
it and it didn't seem like Belichick was really in
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on the whole.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Let's be buddy buddy with Robert Craft again.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Albert Breers kind of laid that all out, you know,
and has talked about how those two guys were at
odds and they started to their relationships started to deteriorate
later on in the years, and they're run in New
England and they didn't really interact all that much. And
so you wondered would Robert Craft show up? And he did,
And then you wondered, was anybody gonna go there with
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Robber Kraft? Was anybody gonna make the joke? And somebody
made the joke, and it was Jeffrey Ross, who is
the roastmaster of roast Masters. So let's take a listen
to Jeffrey Ross, a little little shout out and a
tribute to our old gutty, our old good buddy Bobby
Orchids who was there on stage. Tom Brady roast on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
He said, on the best decision your organization has ever made?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Would you like a massage?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
No, I love Robert Kraft.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I love.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Tom Brady came up to him after Jeffrey Ross said,
you know, he told Tom Brady, you're the best decision
I've ever made, Would you like a massage? And Tom
Brady came up to Jeffrey Robinson and said, don't say
that s again. So of all the jokes, you could
make it a roast where everybody got it, the massage
joke was the one that triggered Brady the most.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
There must be one. There must be a reason.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean, I don't know, but there must be a reason.
Think of all the jokes, I mean, must be a reason.
Bro Like you gotta think when you do things like that,
when you do shows like this, there is one hundred
percent an agenda for doing the show, for Tom Brady,
for whoever's involved, there is a one hundred percent consensus
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agenda for doing the show. So regardless of of anything else,
you have to stay within the parameters of what this
agenda is. If you take it out of the parameters,
I don't care how funny it is, I don't care what.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You do think it is, you can't do it. You
gotta roll.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Would you say arrow ok orchids little? You don't need
no boat or no arrow lee And the way you
was holding it, you you one are shooting the wrong person,
if if at all, with the arrow by the way
like and the fact that you can mess it up
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with an air arrow tells me everything I need to know.
You gotta stay within the parameters of what the agenda is.
And clearly that's not that was not a part of
what they wanted the agenda to be, you know, connected.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
To see I was kind of thinking this. Jeffrey Ross
is a comedian. He does these and if anybody's ever
seen like the celebrity roast, there's some like it is
some of the most offensives.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, and it's so it's meant to be as offensive
as you can possibly be.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Look, if anybody wants to know what a roast is, like,
just YouTube Greg Giraldo and some of the jokes he
made to Warren Sap, to Pamela Anderson to like all
those jokes that are out there. And yeah, Greg Giraldo passed.
I don't know why least so thrilled with it, but
he did. He did pass away. But he was one
of the great roasters. And if you turn on like
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David Hasselhoff's roast, like people are getting annihilated, like not
not drunk, annihilated, and you're going as personal as you
can get. And I wonder if Jeffrey Ross, who comes
from that culture, probably knew what the parameters were. But
I wonder if all he's doing this and putting it together,
he's like, so, wait a second, I'm a comedian and
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I've got these guys trying to tell me and dictate
the one joke in one place I can't go as
a comedian at a roast, and probably thought, yeah, I'll
try and squeeze this one in. You know, I'll get
this one in subtle jab nice little uh. You know,
you are the best decision I ever made.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Pause. Would you like a massage? That's really good? And Brady?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
You can see Brady look over at Robert Kraft, who
was sitting over to the other side of the stage,
and you could I just wonder what Robert Craft's expression
was or what his reaction was, because Belichick thought it
was hilarious. Everybody else thought it was hilarious except for
Tom Brady not happy.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You got to assume that part of Bill Belichick and
Robert Kraft being there, there was just certain things that
they and that probably was one of the on the
list of don't dos, and he did it anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Would she like.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
The best decision he made. Huh was that Orchards of Asia? Hey,
it's cold blooded. So there was a better player in
there than Tom Brady. Huh, it's a rotter, a better
facilitator than a better facilitator and a better play caller
than than Bill Belichick, you know, like a better receiver.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I must just.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Say it's say, uh, you know it's a roast, man like,
you know, this is this is what happens. You know,
you you you know you sign up for these things
and uh and if you are sensitive or there's something
in your past you don't want brought up, I could
assure you this. Let's clear this up. Deshaun Watson will
never have a roast, Okay, Like, can we just go
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ahead and make that clear? Like that'd be the greatest
roast in time. Everybody would sign up for it. I
would be the easiest one, easiest material on the please material.
So that is the That is what went down on
Netflix Tom Brady's roast. And hey, you know, probably some
hurt feelings, but a lot of cocktails afterwards and a
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lot of fun to be had. And if you were
wondering whether or not it was going to go soft
or PG definitely was not. We've tried to play as
much of it that we possibly can without getting fired.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
But you know, fun stuff. I'm not in it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But if y'all, if y'all mess up and played the
wrong SoundBite, I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
If y'all all hope out of here, I'm gonna still
come back. I'm gonna make it through this.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The radio one, by the way, Oh my gosh, you
got dump that a nuclear? Hello, you go ahead, just
hit it. Listen, my word, my words are my words. Okay,
that was not a bad one. But I mean, but
you know what's say for this sum Yeah, I gotch.
I don't really thinking about good. I didn't put nuclear
or comedic. Yeah, okay, it's a roast man. Yeah's and
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I just roasted and I might have got roasted just now, Okay, all.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That stuff happens at roasts. You know, it's not say
ten people here us now? Yeah? Are we back on? Yeah?
We're good? All right, Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
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Speaker 3 (12:38):
It's just so good. Man oh man, Uh, Jeff Ross
just goes rogue just for a second. Oh you had
to pull him back, had to pull him back in.
He's like I got a color outside the line. Just
once he went out, he went outside the line. That's
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just that's just weird.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
That of all the things that Tom Brady's roast, the
one mention of Robert Kraft's massage parlor adventure.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Is the thing that got Tom Brady the most hot.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I'm just saying, like, that's the one. There's a no
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Speaker 1 (13:35):
So he did, I mean, he did tell Kim Kardashian
that she was worried about her.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Kids being with their dad. Eilerated, do we have that one?
I mean, which one is worse massage?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Maybe Kim Kardashian should have came up to Tom Brady
and whispered in his ear, don't say that again, like,
stay away from that.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
So so we you have So this was Tom Brady,
uh and uh, you know, shots fired at Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Kim Kardashian, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I know Kim was terrified to be here.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Tonight, not because of this, but because her kids are
home with their dad.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I mean, Kim Kim would have been well within her
rights to get up, walk up in his air in
front of a microphone and whisper into his air and
the microphone.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Hey, Tom, don't say that. Don't say that again.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So I'm just saying, all right, everything should be good
for the gander.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Oh man, what they say? So that was that was fun.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
We'll have more from the Tom Brady roast coming up
later on in the show here on Fox Sports Radio,
because I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Here, it beats breaking down the Lakers or Clippers.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
So if you are, if you are a fan joining
us here on the West Coast, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
LA basketball.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Just not not existed at this point in time. So
we will have more good times. Well, there's TVs that, Yeah,
there's that. Yeah, you can watch that. You want to
see good basketball.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You want to see some good basketball. There's TVs. You
can't see him personikes.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
So speaking of the opposite of a roast, you know,
it's like a feel good reception and whatnot. And I
know you've talked about this before, Like what Caleb Williams
is walking into in Chicago and how it you know
it isn't you know? People look at it and they
go the history all of that stuff. He showed up
at Wrigley Field this weekend for a Cubs game. They
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showed him a ton of like they and they didn't
even like pan on him for that long. That place
went nuts and it was the biggest crowd I think
they've had all year at Wrigley thus far. Is the
first time they were playing a division opponent, so you had, like,
you know, the people from Milwaukee, you drove in like
it was a great atmosphere all weekend there. They showed
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him for a few seconds and it was like the
entire place turned around and it was like seeing a
full blown celebrity for the first time encounter caught on camera.
Like people were going nuts for this guy. He hasn't
played a snap. I don't even think he signed his
contract yet, if I'm not missing.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I think it's great for the sport. I think it's
great for the town, for the city. I think it's
a great. It has the potential to be a great
story and a great aspect. But with great storylines, they
don't always they don't always go the way that there's
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like like, for instance, all right, let me give you
a great example, snow White. No, no, let's not go
snow White. Let's let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You don't want to lose leave, so let's go. What
let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Uh, Cinderella, Cinderelli is the better She's a better one,
all right, Like you gotta go through some adversity before
you can get like, you know, the mom she didn't
want snow uh, what's her name, Cinderella to outshine her daughters,
so she put her up in the attic, and she,
you know, was playing Punzel.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
No, that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I'm talking about Cinderella Rapunzel's that's that's that's Nah, we
can't use your Punzel.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I know these movies. Can you help out here? At
least was being heading away by he's up in the tower.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
He's thinking Towerpuzzel was up in the tower.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
No, No, Cinderella was up in the attic too. She
was put.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Upstairs in the attic. I know my stories, right, So anyway,
I got daughters, I'm a daughter dad. So anyway, the
point is that they're like, where's he going with this?
The point I'm trying to make is Cinderella had to
overcome some adversity right for for her to be seen
the way that she needed to be seen. The storyline
takes you away from her and what she's going to
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end up being once the clock hit midnight. Right, she
had heard her gold slippers, she had the carriage, she
looked like she was a person of means and came
from status, and everything was supposed to work out until
it struck midnight. I don't know that the Chicago Bears
team or organization is in the right place for the
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story to start off fast. It's already the storyline is
in play. Caleb Williams comes to town. They have a
great drift, they have a strong offseason. This means that
there should be a renewal of excitement. There should be
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a an entrance of success that takes place with Caleb
williams arrival in Chicago. That is the set, that is
the storyline, that's that's what's set up. But what will
be the complied, what will be the conflict, and what
will end up being the rise to the climax of
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what what the movie? What the storyline presents, because then
that's where you're going to know. Will he They asked
him the question could he handle adversity? He said he's
handled adversity several times throughout his career and even named
his samples. But the biggest thing about when you have
the whole saying of much is required much or much
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much as much is given, much is required. Caleb Williams
has been He's earned it. But he's been given the
key to Chicago the city already. And now with him
being given that key, what will he do with it?
And if there is adversity, and there will be adversity,
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how is he going to handle that? Because just as
quickly as a mob and a fan base will.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Chair you on and and and you hear the.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Roars of how excited they are, they also can be
the booze and they could also be the what the
hell is this? They can also be very very critical
and very very unforgiving, especially in a city like Chicago.
That's one of those markets, like when I talked about
Russell Wilson going to Pittsburgh, that's one of those markets.
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They'll show you love like we love you today, we
love you, but let you mess up my Sunday. Too
many times you mess up my Sundays too many times,
and I'm gonna show you how I feel and to me,
how will he handle that?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
How will this team handle that? If that's what takes.
And look to your point, we've seen that. I mean
look in Philly, like Nick Sirianni has been fantastic as.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
It has, and he has one bad moment, Like.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
He had to like sell himself to ownership in the
off season just to keep his job. They were just
in a Super Bowl, nearly won a Super Bowl. They've
been to the playoffs every single year. He like he's
winning percentage since he's been in Philly is amongst the
tip up in the NFL, amongst every single coach, and
Nick Sirianni in Philly had to almost sell himself again
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to ownership to make sure he kept his job this offseason.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And they had to sell themselves to the family. Yeah,
it's wild.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I also look at it like this with the Caleb
Williams stuff in Chicago, when I see the reaction and
reception he got at Wrigley Field, sitting there in a
press box when they pan over to him and the
place is going nuts, Like if you know a two
year old catches a foul ball line drive with his
bare hands, Like I mean, the place was going nuts.
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And I see that reaction, I go all of the
stuff that we were hearing before the draft about well,
he may not want to go there, and he might
just go back to college and he might force them
to do this, and he what a bunch of crap.
I think he looks at it and goes, yeah, I know.
It hasn't been done here. From a quarterback standpoint, they're
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the only team in the NFL that's never had a
four thousand yard passer in a season, which is wild
to think about in a passing league. They haven't won
a Super Bowl in what are we talking about forty
years coming up on forty years, they haven't won.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
A Super Bowl. They've made an apparent though in six
and seven.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But I look at it and I go, I think
Caleb Williams recognizes, Yeah, but if I win one here,
that's almost.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Like when in two or three elsewhere, because.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
It has an amazing long asset, it's an amazing market,
and when you look at the history, they have never
had a true, bona fide franchise quarterback.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
If you get it done in Chicago at quarterback for
the Bears, and you're that guy that everybody says he
is and everybody is anticipating him being he goes to
another level, like he's in the rarefied air of Chicago
sports athletes.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He's in the rarefied era of athletes period. He does
it in Chicago, And.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I wonder with his sort of understanding and his self
awareness to impact and you know, how like what he
can do in certain spots and how he can influence
a game and all that stuff like, and I've read
some stuff about him and just sort of how he
is as a teammate. And when he went to the
Heisman Award ceremony, he took all his offensive linemen, made
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sure they all came with him, had everything, you know,
they all, you know, got everything taken care of, they
all flew out there. I think he looks at this
and the more he's there, the more he's going to realize, Man,
what an opportunity to be the one to get it
done there.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Because look, what athlete doesn't realize that when they get drafted.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
But I think there's certain places where it's different, like
when the Red Sox finally won a World Series. Man,
the guys who are part of that World Series team.
But listen to what I'm saying. Listen what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
What athlete that gets drafted doesn't think that about their
team for themselves?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah, but you don't think that there's a different level
of celebration in places where it's not happened.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Or the player, not for the player.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
The player looks at it from the standpoint of if
they're drafted in the type of situation where they're a
first round draft pick, a number one for that team
as a draft pick, the fanfare that comes along with
you getting drafted, that's exactly what you're thinking. That's exactly
what you're supposed to be thinking, is that, look at
this golden opportunity for me to come in as a
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top draft pick, which means our success is going to
be directly attributed to my my acquisition, and that means
something amazing if we win. That's that's that's universal. But
the stakes is what I think you're you're hitting on.
The stakes are so high for Caleb Williams, high stakes
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like Andrew Luck, stakes like John Elway, stakes like. The
stakes are tremendously high for Caleb Willilliams. And that's where
what you're saying actually comes into play because the amount
of attention that is going to be paid to Caleb
Williams and what he does is going to be at
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a feverish pitch before we even get to the first game.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
You know, it's funny because you bring up the the
Andrew Luck because that's one of the comps because they
talk about generational talents and they point to Andrew Luck,
John Elway, trentor Lawrence. Caleb Williams is the next in
line when it comes to that, like Andrew Luck, Like
there was expectations and it was because Peyton Manning had
just been there, Like they had a great way, they
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won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
They got rid of it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's like almost like we got rid of Peyton Manning
bringing Andrew And you know what's.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Wild about it too, because everybody understood it because Peyton
Manning's neck issues and all that, and they were going
to go in a different direction. Peyton Manning had a
better run post Indianapolis than Andrew Luck had in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Got a Super Bowl like and went to another one
and went to another one.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, And I've always thought that was interesting because whenever
you hear about you know, Peyton Manning and him, you know,
representing a team or having some sort of a relationship.
It's always with Denver. It's almost like we don't even
think about his time in Indianapolis, and he was there
way longer than he was and so like Andrew luck
took that over and it was like, well, you know,
they just had success and it never won a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I've never played in a Super Bowl, never made it.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, but it felt different because they still had that
success kind of lingering. Whereas you know, if you're Calen
Williams and you get to someplace like John Elway, you're
at their comparison.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Here's the they never they never.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Got a super Bowl before John lay that's fair, and
then finally got one year.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Here's the point with with the whole idea of how
big the stakes are. The Colts did win a Super Bowl,
and the Colts did have success, and the Coats is
it's a good market, but they know what it is
to have a franchise quarterback. Even before Peyton Manning. You
think about Lawrence, and that's a good comp you bring
up Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence largely in part for what
(27:04):
the fanfare said, has been a disappointment, like there have
been there have been highs for him, Yeah, but there
certainly hasn't been that that differentiator of what represents a
generational talent at the position. He has not transitioned into
being that player. Agreed, But the market allows for him
(27:25):
to not be that guy.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
He doesn't have to be.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
He's not even right now the best quarterback to ever
play in the history of that franchise. It's Mark Burnell
ends down, damn it is and and and he hasn't
even transitioned into being the top tier of of of
franchise quarterback in the league.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
We're just gonna dismiss Blake Bortles, like.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yes, we're going We're going to dismiss you for it.
For we're gonna stay. We're gonna stay with my man,
Mark Burnell. By the way, you already, Blake Bortles said.
One time, he said that he got a Tesla so
that he would avoid having to get gas, because he
would always go into a gas station and get chew.
(28:08):
So so in order to stop his dipping habit, he
got a Tesla so he didn't have to And he said,
now he finds himself just driving straight to a gas
station and walking in with that filling up.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Like you're so.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Hooked on Copenhagen. You're like, man, I gotta get a Tesla.
There's there's a work around here. It's got to be
an electronic car. At least he had a consistent habit.
There is there is that because he didn't win. It
wasn't winning.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
But your point on a smaller market, it's a market
that that is forgiving because it's not that type of brand,
it's not that type of personality connected to that.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That franchise.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But you go to a place like Pittsburgh and play
for the Stellers, you go to a place like Philly
and play for the Eagles, or to the Giants, or
the Jets, or to dumb Bears. You gotta deal with
a fan base that will fight you in the streets
if you're if you're the reason why their team isn't winning,
(29:08):
they'll fight you. I remember, I remember the first time
I was in New York and I'm leaving the game,
I de signed one hundred autograms and one hundred and
one f You go back to Washington, like bro I
just right like they they'll they'll, they'll, they'll sell you
out quick hardcore market fan bases. You can you want
(29:33):
to know what it is. You can never do enough.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I heard joke of Noahs on Dan Lebotard's podcast, and
I heard him say, he's like, yeah, man, he's all
signing with the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Signing in New York. That was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
But it's not so much fun when you're six eleven
and your team stinks and you're not playing. They will
eat you up because you're just walking around and people
are not happy.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Then you go look, then you go out. You go
out onto town and all going to the same areas.
So you'll see the teams of relevance versus the teams
that aren't relevant, and it is day and night. The
way you're treating you'll see okay, sir, come in, mister Strahan,
come over, no this that other. When we when I
(30:16):
first got there, we was walking around. I'm looking at Jets.
They're standing in the line. Were walking right in like
they're like, oh, you're table's over.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Here, sir. We're looking at the Knicks. It's like, man, like,
what's up? Brother? Like that looking at you like can
you get me in? Man?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And we play in the same stadium. Can you get
me in Hey Bru. They are unforgiving when you lose,
so he and the hardest part of all of this
is we're talking about it in singular player terms, right,
everybody were bringing up but it's actually such a team
(30:53):
driven sport.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's such a culture driven sport.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So if there is something wrong with the culture in Chica,
which it seems like there might be, if there's something
wrong with the team and how they're doing things, which
it could be, then Caleb Williams is only going to
be as good as the environment will allow for him
(31:17):
to be. He's only going to get as big as
that tank is going to allow for him to be
able to get. It's really based off of so many
other determining factors, and that's what's crazy, is that we
place these athletes in these impossible scenarios that they have
to navigate that they have absolutely no control over, and
(31:40):
you'll look at him and you'll say, oh, he's underperforming.
Oh he's not as good as we thought he was
going to be. Oh he's a bust. And it's everything
to do with how that organization is ran, what they're doing,
what the coach is doing, what the owner is doing
what the GM is Doing's so many different reasons why
things could go wrong for a player like Caleb Williams,
(32:03):
and it's going to be interesting to see if he
can handle the adversity to trying to actually get to
a place of where this team is competitive enough to
be a Super Bowl competing team.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Man. But if he does it, oh, if he does it,
it's a rat. It's a rat. He ain't going nowhere. Oh,
it's a rat.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
And not to mention the amount of money he's going
to make, Oh, it's a rash. And I'm talking before
he gets to his contract. If he has a great
rookie season, a great sophomore season, the amount of advertisement
dollars that are going to come his way is going
to be unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
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Speaker 3 (32:44):
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Speaker 4 (32:46):
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Speaker 3 (32:51):
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Speaker 4 (33:26):
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We'll explain why that is coming up here a little
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Speaker 3 (34:10):
After your sports weekend happens.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
So it's time to get the FSR IR report.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
All right, I.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Mean Lee's on ior right now, Lee, come on, Lee
spilled the beans?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
All right?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
What what was this weekend entail?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Because you just you sent over a video.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
I sent over a lot of videos, only something we
could talk about.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So you saw the band Sugar Ray this week I.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Did see Sugar Ray this weekend at the I can
say it Sat Francis de Sales Fair.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's the best little fair in the valley. I go
there every year. Is it? It looks like a nice stage.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I mean it doesn't look like it's cheaply done or anything. School.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
It is a school. It's a middle school as goes
all the way to eighth grade. But I have a
lot of friends who went to so Fts. They all
played have.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Good bands that played there. Hold on a second, Yes,
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
You went to a middle school fair, yes, and so
did Sugar Ray.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
There's there's like a whole lot of wrong. There's a
whole lot of wrong. What I go, what's a whole
bunch of eighth grader, seventh grader, sixth graders there?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they stay on the other side.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, yeah, what they're in class?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Yeah, I don't know, man. You know, I don't have
little I don't have siblings. It's weird. I don't like kids.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
They serve booze. You have a cop, do they serve booze?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
They like give they trophy?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
The same strange, man, this same is very strange, very odd.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
The last year I walked home. Yeah, did you see
the al Paco?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
How you were on your way, Eddie?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Which part of that story do you find the most alarm?
Man is telling the whole entire store, because I'm on
the same page. Is that Sugar Ray was playing in
a middle school fair that honestly, I'm going Sugar Ray,
it's surprising, right, be right? What do you think they
make for that gig? Like? How many people were there?
You probably donate the performance.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
We actually they actually set a number. It's over a
thousand people. A thousand people.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
How much you're paying to get in? Nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, he probably just did it to kind of prepare
for a tour or something.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
I don't know if his kids go there or he
went there or whatever, but they think he's a regular there.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
He's a regular and a middle school Fair. Yeah, it's
the whole band, or is it just Mark McGrath.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
This band has been together for ten years, so it's
not the original Sugar Ray.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
But I mean, they they kill it, they rocket, they
have a good time. I mean, I'm showing.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
They sold over ten million records, four top ten songs,
that's a long time ago. Hundreds and millions of streams,
tickets sold. I mean, they were one of the bigger
bands in like on the planet.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I forgot how many bangers they had.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
They they have some bangers. Man, Let's not get carried
away here. I mean, come on, you know they definitely
have spring break anthems.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
You put it on, you're singing to it. I mean
I'm not personally but you but you know it. Yeah,
I mean, but that's what I'm saying. Like and apparently
now middle school kids know it too. That was actually what.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
We're talking about was like probably mostly most of these kids.
Most of these kids probably don't even know.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Spread now what is on the menu though, are they?
Is it just beer and wine?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
No, that then everything? Of course.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
I went with my chili dog and chili fries. I
had pizza, pizza slice.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I mean, I'm not an chicken chicken bowl from the ear.
Bowls are going crazy.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
They call it the Asian, the Asian, the Asian bowl stand.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
That's literally what it's called. It's not me the machine
in your belly right now?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You know how you you ever hear an empty ice machine,
you ever get scared?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Belly.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
We're just like at home alone and you're like, what
what was that?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
It was the ice machine?
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Yeah, belly, Oh that means that That must mean I
had a lot of ice here today.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
No, that means you're out of ice, but you're full of.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I mean, so what what what drinks were at the
middle scho Did you drink everything?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Like everything?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I p a easy breezy, uh anything hard?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
No, they didn't have hard. I had to have my
flask on me for that tequila. Dude, Come on, what
what was it? Was it brown? Was it blanco? What
was it? Repissans? All right, you brought a flask to
a middle school with sugar ray place with eight graders
walking around. Okay,
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
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bang bang bang that stuff. Man, I could guarantee you
they're talking about what happened, what I drove through earlier
on on eyewitness.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
On the old on the old two ten. Watch. Let's
find it out. Let's see. Oh no, that's right here.
It is four.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
That's right here, not far from here. It is two pros.
That's the one here on Fox Sports was trying to avoid. Yeah,
so there's more than one, or maybe that's the one.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
For those of you listening across the country, we were
trying to figure out, uh, LeVar passed by a pretty
bad wreck.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So we're trying to show up here.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
It was so bad, I thought I'll just say this, like,
if you're still out there driving drunk, get a clue. Man,
not smart, Not a good move, and you just put
a lot of people in jeopardy, like get an uber,
get a cab, like what, there's options? Now, use your
(01:49):
chevro legs, whatever whatever it takes. Get to where you
need to go. But stay off the roads because I
saw some people driving in that they look like.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I didn't even think about I didn't even put that together,
like now that you're saying it, like, man was getting
ripped just dumb. Yeah, man, that was a bad one.
I'm telling you that one was bad. That was a bad, bad,
bad one. That was a bad one. That's that's the
worst I've ever seen with my own two eyes. Yeah,
I've seen some pretty bad ones.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That's rough. Well listen, uh, here's what else is rough?
What else?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
We kind of thought about this because as we were,
you know, we finished last hour talking about the Tom
Brady roast, and we were wondering, all right, so when
he did when he does this roast, what is what
is it going to look like? And who's going to
be in attendance? And you had former Patriots players. You
had some guys from the Bucks that were there. But
you had Edelman, Gronk, you know, Tom Brady's good buddies,
(02:47):
his crew there. You had Kim Kardashian was there for
some reason.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I mean, everybody need to get in on the exposure
of it, right, Yeah, of course that's that's a ton
of exposure you could get doing it.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You had Belichick who was there, you know, he he
took a shot at Rob Gronkowski.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, like that after party, Oh god, I.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Mean they were partying on stage and and having a
good time. Belichick was up there with Robert Kraft and
and we played the sound you know of the you know,
Robert Craft toasting to Belichick or whatever, and Belichick made
a joke about how, you know, this is Tom Brady's roast,
not to be confused with the roast that Apple TV
did on Our on Our Dynasty.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So yeah, yeah, And because that's what it turned into,
and that's why so many people were upset. And Robert Kraft,
who is you know Craft LLC on the credits like
that was that was his thing.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And so him having to.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Come out afterwards and then having to do a shot
on stage with Belichick like he's really trying to repair
his Yeah, because it just it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And good good for tom Brady helping him, like he
gave him a platform for him to be able to
try to help him. Yeah, right, I mean, if you
think about he gave Belichick an opportunity to to have
his have his moment.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And and for Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
And we kind of made this point last week, it
is interesting to see how the tide has turned on
Belichick to where now you're like, well, it's gone from
Belichick's the guy who's the problem, Who's the guy who's
the issue in New England, to well, if he doesn't
work and or if he goes somewhere and has success
(04:21):
and Tom Brady goes somewhere and has success, the guy
left their hold in the bag is going to be
Robert Kraft because they're going to look at Robert Craft
and say, okay, well maybe it's you who couldn't do
it without those guys, and if they go and have
success elsewhere, and that was sort of what Belichick had
speculated with. So just from my eyes, I looked at
it and it didn't seem like Belichick was really in
(04:43):
on the whole.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Let's be buddy buddy with Robert Craft again.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Albert Breers kind of laid that all out, you know,
and has talked about how those two guys were at
odds and they started to their relationships started to deteriorate
later on in the years, and they're run in New
England and they didn't really interact all that much. And
so you wondered would Robert Craft show up? And he did,
And then you wondered, was anybody gonna go there with
(05:06):
Robber Kraft? Was anybody gonna make the joke? And somebody
made the joke, and it was Jeffrey Ross, who is
the roastmaster of roast Masters. So let's take a listen
to Jeffrey Ross, a little little shout out and a
tribute to our old gutty, our old good buddy Bobby
Orchids who was there on stage. Tom Brady roast on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
He said, on the best decision your organization has ever made?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Would you like a massage?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
No, I love Robert Kraft.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I love.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Tom Brady came up to him after Jeffrey Ross said,
you know, he told Tom Brady, you're the best decision
I've ever made, Would you like a massage? And Tom
Brady came up to Jeffrey Robinson and said, don't say
that s again. So of all the jokes, you could
make it a roast where everybody got it, the massage
joke was the one that triggered Brady the most.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
There must be one. There must be a reason.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean, I don't know, but there must be a reason.
Think of all the jokes, I mean, must be a reason.
Bro Like you gotta think when you do things like that,
when you do shows like this, there is one hundred
percent an agenda for doing the show, for Tom Brady,
for whoever's involved, there is a one hundred percent consensus
(06:45):
agenda for doing the show. So regardless of of anything else,
you have to stay within the parameters of what this
agenda is. If you take it out of the parameters,
I don't care how funny it is, I don't care what.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You do think it is, you can't do it. You
gotta roll.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Would you say arrow ok orchids little? You don't need
no boat or no arrow lee And the way you
was holding it, you you one are shooting the wrong person,
if if at all, with the arrow by the way
like and the fact that you can mess it up
(07:26):
with an air arrow tells me everything I need to know.
You gotta stay within the parameters of what the agenda is.
And clearly that's not that was not a part of
what they wanted the agenda to be, you know, connected.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
To see I was kind of thinking this. Jeffrey Ross
is a comedian. He does these and if anybody's ever
seen like the celebrity roast, there's some like it is
some of the most offensives.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, and it's so it's meant to be as offensive
as you can possibly be.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Look, if anybody wants to know what a roast is, like,
just YouTube Greg Giraldo and some of the jokes he
made to Warren Sap, to Pamela Anderson to like all
those jokes that are out there. And yeah, Greg Giraldo passed.
I don't know why least so thrilled with it, but
he did. He did pass away. But he was one
of the great roasters. And if you turn on like
(08:19):
David Hasselhoff's roast, like people are getting annihilated, like not
not drunk, annihilated, and you're going as personal as you
can get. And I wonder if Jeffrey Ross, who comes
from that culture, probably knew what the parameters were. But
I wonder if all he's doing this and putting it together,
he's like, so, wait a second, I'm a comedian and
(08:41):
I've got these guys trying to tell me and dictate
the one joke in one place I can't go as
a comedian at a roast, and probably thought, yeah, I'll
try and squeeze this one in. You know, I'll get
this one in subtle jab nice little uh. You know,
you are the best decision I ever made.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Pause. Would you like a massage? That's really good? And Brady?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
You can see Brady look over at Robert Kraft, who
was sitting over to the other side of the stage,
and you could I just wonder what Robert Craft's expression
was or what his reaction was, because Belichick thought it
was hilarious. Everybody else thought it was hilarious except for
Tom Brady not happy.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You got to assume that part of Bill Belichick and
Robert Kraft being there, there was just certain things that
they and that probably was one of the on the
list of don't dos, and he did it anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Would she like.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
The best decision he made. Huh was that Orchards of Asia? Hey,
it's cold blooded. So there was a better player in
there than Tom Brady. Huh, it's a rotter, a better
facilitator than a better facilitator and a better play caller
than than Bill Belichick, you know, like a better receiver.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I must just.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Say it's say, uh, you know it's a roast, man like,
you know, this is this is what happens. You know,
you you you know you sign up for these things
and uh and if you are sensitive or there's something
in your past you don't want brought up, I could
assure you this. Let's clear this up. Deshaun Watson will
never have a roast, Okay, Like, can we just go
(10:19):
ahead and make that clear? Like that'd be the greatest
roast in time. Everybody would sign up for it. I
would be the easiest one, easiest material on the please material.
So that is the That is what went down on
Netflix Tom Brady's roast. And hey, you know, probably some
hurt feelings, but a lot of cocktails afterwards and a
(10:39):
lot of fun to be had. And if you were
wondering whether or not it was going to go soft
or PG definitely was not. We've tried to play as
much of it that we possibly can without getting fired.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
But you know, fun stuff. I'm not in it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But if y'all, if y'all mess up and played the
wrong SoundBite, I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
If y'all all hope out of here, I'm gonna still
come back. I'm gonna make it through this.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The radio one, by the way, Oh my gosh, you
got dump that a nuclear? Hello, you go ahead, just
hit it. Listen, my word, my words are my words. Okay,
that was not a bad one. But I mean, but
you know what's say for this sum Yeah, I gotch.
I don't really thinking about good. I didn't put nuclear
or comedic. Yeah, okay, it's a roast man. Yeah's and
(11:26):
I just roasted and I might have got roasted just now, Okay, all.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That stuff happens at roasts. You know, it's not say
ten people here us now? Yeah? Are we back on? Yeah?
We're good? All right, Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Two pros and ap Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming up next here though,
from the tire Rack dot Com studio, speaking of roast,
if you want the opposite of one, it happened over
the weekend in the NFL. We will explain right here
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Speaker 3 (12:38):
It's just so good. Man oh man, Uh, Jeff Ross
just goes rogue just for a second. Oh you had
to pull him back, had to pull him back in.
He's like I got a color outside the line. Just
once he went out, he went outside the line. That's
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just that's just weird.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
That of all the things that Tom Brady's roast, the
one mention of Robert Kraft's massage parlor adventure.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Is the thing that got Tom Brady the most hot.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I'm just saying, like, that's the one. There's a no
fla zone that's generally.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
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Speaker 1 (13:35):
So he did, I mean, he did tell Kim Kardashian
that she was worried about her.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Kids being with their dad. Eilerated, do we have that one?
I mean, which one is worse massage?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Maybe Kim Kardashian should have came up to Tom Brady
and whispered in his ear, don't say that again, like,
stay away from that.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
So so we you have So this was Tom Brady,
uh and uh, you know, shots fired at Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Kim Kardashian, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I know Kim was terrified to be here.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Tonight, not because of this, but because her kids are
home with their dad.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I mean, Kim Kim would have been well within her
rights to get up, walk up in his air in
front of a microphone and whisper into his air and
the microphone.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Hey, Tom, don't say that. Don't say that again.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So I'm just saying, all right, everything should be good
for the gander.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Oh man, what they say? So that was that was fun.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
We'll have more from the Tom Brady roast coming up
later on in the show here on Fox Sports Radio,
because I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Here, it beats breaking down the Lakers or Clippers.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
So if you are, if you are a fan joining
us here on the West Coast, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
LA basketball.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Just not not existed at this point in time. So
we will have more good times. Well, there's TVs that, Yeah,
there's that. Yeah, you can watch that. You want to
see good basketball.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You want to see some good basketball. There's TVs. You
can't see him personikes.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
So speaking of the opposite of a roast, you know,
it's like a feel good reception and whatnot. And I
know you've talked about this before, Like what Caleb Williams
is walking into in Chicago and how it you know
it isn't you know? People look at it and they
go the history all of that stuff. He showed up
at Wrigley Field this weekend for a Cubs game. They
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showed him a ton of like they and they didn't
even like pan on him for that long. That place
went nuts and it was the biggest crowd I think
they've had all year at Wrigley thus far. Is the
first time they were playing a division opponent, so you had, like,
you know, the people from Milwaukee, you drove in like
it was a great atmosphere all weekend there. They showed
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him for a few seconds and it was like the
entire place turned around and it was like seeing a
full blown celebrity for the first time encounter caught on camera.
Like people were going nuts for this guy. He hasn't
played a snap. I don't even think he signed his
contract yet, if I'm not missing.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I think it's great for the sport. I think it's
great for the town, for the city. I think it's
a great. It has the potential to be a great
story and a great aspect. But with great storylines, they
don't always they don't always go the way that there's
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like like, for instance, all right, let me give you
a great example, snow White. No, no, let's not go
snow White. Let's let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You don't want to lose leave, so let's go. What
let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Uh, Cinderella, Cinderelli is the better She's a better one,
all right, Like you gotta go through some adversity before
you can get like, you know, the mom she didn't
want snow uh, what's her name, Cinderella to outshine her daughters,
so she put her up in the attic, and she,
you know, was playing Punzel.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
No, that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I'm talking about Cinderella Rapunzel's that's that's that's Nah, we
can't use your Punzel.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I know these movies. Can you help out here? At
least was being heading away by he's up in the tower.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
He's thinking Towerpuzzel was up in the tower.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
No, No, Cinderella was up in the attic too. She
was put.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Upstairs in the attic. I know my stories, right, So anyway,
I got daughters, I'm a daughter dad. So anyway, the
point is that they're like, where's he going with this?
The point I'm trying to make is Cinderella had to
overcome some adversity right for for her to be seen
the way that she needed to be seen. The storyline
takes you away from her and what she's going to
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end up being once the clock hit midnight. Right, she
had heard her gold slippers, she had the carriage, she
looked like she was a person of means and came
from status, and everything was supposed to work out until
it struck midnight. I don't know that the Chicago Bears
team or organization is in the right place for the
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story to start off fast. It's already the storyline is
in play. Caleb Williams comes to town. They have a
great drift, they have a strong offseason. This means that
there should be a renewal of excitement. There should be
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a an entrance of success that takes place with Caleb
williams arrival in Chicago. That is the set, that is
the storyline, that's that's what's set up. But what will
be the complied, what will be the conflict, and what
will end up being the rise to the climax of
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what what the movie? What the storyline presents, because then
that's where you're going to know. Will he They asked
him the question could he handle adversity? He said he's
handled adversity several times throughout his career and even named
his samples. But the biggest thing about when you have
the whole saying of much is required much or much
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much as much is given, much is required. Caleb Williams
has been He's earned it. But he's been given the
key to Chicago the city already. And now with him
being given that key, what will he do with it?
And if there is adversity, and there will be adversity,
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how is he going to handle that? Because just as
quickly as a mob and a fan base will.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Chair you on and and and you hear the.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Roars of how excited they are, they also can be
the booze and they could also be the what the
hell is this? They can also be very very critical
and very very unforgiving, especially in a city like Chicago.
That's one of those markets, like when I talked about
Russell Wilson going to Pittsburgh, that's one of those markets.
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They'll show you love like we love you today, we
love you, but let you mess up my Sunday. Too
many times you mess up my Sundays too many times,
and I'm gonna show you how I feel and to me,
how will he handle that?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
How will this team handle that? If that's what takes.
And look to your point, we've seen that. I mean
look in Philly, like Nick Sirianni has been fantastic as.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
It has, and he has one bad moment, Like.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
He had to like sell himself to ownership in the
off season just to keep his job. They were just
in a Super Bowl, nearly won a Super Bowl. They've
been to the playoffs every single year. He like he's
winning percentage since he's been in Philly is amongst the
tip up in the NFL, amongst every single coach, and
Nick Sirianni in Philly had to almost sell himself again
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to ownership to make sure he kept his job this offseason.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And they had to sell themselves to the family. Yeah,
it's wild.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I also look at it like this with the Caleb
Williams stuff in Chicago, when I see the reaction and
reception he got at Wrigley Field, sitting there in a
press box when they pan over to him and the
place is going nuts, Like if you know a two
year old catches a foul ball line drive with his
bare hands, Like I mean, the place was going nuts.
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And I see that reaction, I go all of the
stuff that we were hearing before the draft about well,
he may not want to go there, and he might
just go back to college and he might force them
to do this, and he what a bunch of crap.
I think he looks at it and goes, yeah, I know.
It hasn't been done here. From a quarterback standpoint, they're
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the only team in the NFL that's never had a
four thousand yard passer in a season, which is wild
to think about in a passing league. They haven't won
a Super Bowl in what are we talking about forty
years coming up on forty years, they haven't won.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
A Super Bowl. They've made an apparent though in six
and seven.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But I look at it and I go, I think
Caleb Williams recognizes, Yeah, but if I win one here,
that's almost.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Like when in two or three elsewhere, because.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
It has an amazing long asset, it's an amazing market,
and when you look at the history, they have never
had a true, bona fide franchise quarterback.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
If you get it done in Chicago at quarterback for
the Bears, and you're that guy that everybody says he
is and everybody is anticipating him being he goes to
another level, like he's in the rarefied air of Chicago
sports athletes.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He's in the rarefied era of athletes period. He does
it in Chicago, And.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I wonder with his sort of understanding and his self
awareness to impact and you know, how like what he
can do in certain spots and how he can influence
a game and all that stuff like, and I've read
some stuff about him and just sort of how he
is as a teammate. And when he went to the
Heisman Award ceremony, he took all his offensive linemen, made
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sure they all came with him, had everything, you know,
they all, you know, got everything taken care of, they
all flew out there. I think he looks at this
and the more he's there, the more he's going to realize, Man,
what an opportunity to be the one to get it
done there.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Because look, what athlete doesn't realize that when they get drafted.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
But I think there's certain places where it's different, like
when the Red Sox finally won a World Series. Man,
the guys who are part of that World Series team.
But listen to what I'm saying. Listen what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
What athlete that gets drafted doesn't think that about their
team for themselves?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah, but you don't think that there's a different level
of celebration in places where it's not happened.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Or the player, not for the player.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
The player looks at it from the standpoint of if
they're drafted in the type of situation where they're a
first round draft pick, a number one for that team
as a draft pick, the fanfare that comes along with
you getting drafted, that's exactly what you're thinking. That's exactly
what you're supposed to be thinking, is that, look at
this golden opportunity for me to come in as a
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top draft pick, which means our success is going to
be directly attributed to my my acquisition, and that means
something amazing if we win. That's that's that's universal. But
the stakes is what I think you're you're hitting on.
The stakes are so high for Caleb Williams, high stakes
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like Andrew Luck, stakes like John Elway, stakes like. The
stakes are tremendously high for Caleb Willilliams. And that's where
what you're saying actually comes into play because the amount
of attention that is going to be paid to Caleb
Williams and what he does is going to be at
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a feverish pitch before we even get to the first game.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
You know, it's funny because you bring up the the
Andrew Luck because that's one of the comps because they
talk about generational talents and they point to Andrew Luck,
John Elway, trentor Lawrence. Caleb Williams is the next in
line when it comes to that, like Andrew Luck, Like
there was expectations and it was because Peyton Manning had
just been there, Like they had a great way, they
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won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
They got rid of it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's like almost like we got rid of Peyton Manning
bringing Andrew And you know what's.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Wild about it too, because everybody understood it because Peyton
Manning's neck issues and all that, and they were going
to go in a different direction. Peyton Manning had a
better run post Indianapolis than Andrew Luck had in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Got a Super Bowl like and went to another one
and went to another one.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, And I've always thought that was interesting because whenever
you hear about you know, Peyton Manning and him, you know,
representing a team or having some sort of a relationship.
It's always with Denver. It's almost like we don't even
think about his time in Indianapolis, and he was there
way longer than he was and so like Andrew luck
took that over and it was like, well, you know,
they just had success and it never won a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I've never played in a Super Bowl, never made it.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, but it felt different because they still had that
success kind of lingering. Whereas you know, if you're Calen
Williams and you get to someplace like John Elway, you're
at their comparison.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Here's the they never they never.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Got a super Bowl before John lay that's fair, and
then finally got one year.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Here's the point with with the whole idea of how
big the stakes are. The Colts did win a Super Bowl,
and the Colts did have success, and the Coats is
it's a good market, but they know what it is
to have a franchise quarterback. Even before Peyton Manning. You
think about Lawrence, and that's a good comp you bring
up Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence largely in part for what
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the fanfare said, has been a disappointment, like there have
been there have been highs for him, Yeah, but there
certainly hasn't been that that differentiator of what represents a
generational talent at the position. He has not transitioned into
being that player. Agreed, But the market allows for him
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to not be that guy.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
He doesn't have to be.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
He's not even right now the best quarterback to ever
play in the history of that franchise. It's Mark Burnell
ends down, damn it is and and and he hasn't
even transitioned into being the top tier of of of
franchise quarterback in the league.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
We're just gonna dismiss Blake Bortles, like.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yes, we're going We're going to dismiss you for it.
For we're gonna stay. We're gonna stay with my man,
Mark Burnell. By the way, you already, Blake Bortles said.
One time, he said that he got a Tesla so
that he would avoid having to get gas, because he
would always go into a gas station and get chew.
(28:08):
So so in order to stop his dipping habit, he
got a Tesla so he didn't have to And he said,
now he finds himself just driving straight to a gas
station and walking in with that filling up.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Like you're so.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Hooked on Copenhagen. You're like, man, I gotta get a Tesla.
There's there's a work around here. It's got to be
an electronic car. At least he had a consistent habit.
There is there is that because he didn't win. It
wasn't winning.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
But your point on a smaller market, it's a market
that that is forgiving because it's not that type of brand,
it's not that type of personality connected to that.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That franchise.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But you go to a place like Pittsburgh and play
for the Stellers, you go to a place like Philly
and play for the Eagles, or to the Giants, or
the Jets, or to dumb Bears. You gotta deal with
a fan base that will fight you in the streets
if you're if you're the reason why their team isn't winning,
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they'll fight you. I remember, I remember the first time
I was in New York and I'm leaving the game,
I de signed one hundred autograms and one hundred and
one f You go back to Washington, like bro I
just right like they they'll they'll, they'll, they'll sell you
out quick hardcore market fan bases. You can you want
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to know what it is. You can never do enough.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I heard joke of Noahs on Dan Lebotard's podcast, and
I heard him say, he's like, yeah, man, he's all
signing with the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Signing in New York. That was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
But it's not so much fun when you're six eleven
and your team stinks and you're not playing. They will
eat you up because you're just walking around and people
are not happy.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Then you go look, then you go out. You go
out onto town and all going to the same areas.
So you'll see the teams of relevance versus the teams
that aren't relevant, and it is day and night. The
way you're treating you'll see okay, sir, come in, mister Strahan,
come over, no this that other. When we when I
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first got there, we was walking around. I'm looking at Jets.
They're standing in the line. Were walking right in like
they're like, oh, you're table's over.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Here, sir. We're looking at the Knicks. It's like, man, like,
what's up? Brother? Like that looking at you like can
you get me in? Man?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And we play in the same stadium. Can you get
me in Hey Bru. They are unforgiving when you lose,
so he and the hardest part of all of this
is we're talking about it in singular player terms, right,
everybody were bringing up but it's actually such a team
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driven sport.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's such a culture driven sport.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So if there is something wrong with the culture in Chica,
which it seems like there might be, if there's something
wrong with the team and how they're doing things, which
it could be, then Caleb Williams is only going to
be as good as the environment will allow for him
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to be. He's only going to get as big as
that tank is going to allow for him to be
able to get. It's really based off of so many
other determining factors, and that's what's crazy, is that we
place these athletes in these impossible scenarios that they have
to navigate that they have absolutely no control over, and
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you'll look at him and you'll say, oh, he's underperforming.
Oh he's not as good as we thought he was
going to be. Oh he's a bust. And it's everything
to do with how that organization is ran, what they're doing,
what the coach is doing, what the owner is doing
what the GM is Doing's so many different reasons why
things could go wrong for a player like Caleb Williams,
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and it's going to be interesting to see if he
can handle the adversity to trying to actually get to
a place of where this team is competitive enough to
be a Super Bowl competing team.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Man. But if he does it, oh, if he does it,
it's a rat. It's a rat. He ain't going nowhere. Oh,
it's a rat.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
And not to mention the amount of money he's going
to make, Oh, it's a rash. And I'm talking before
he gets to his contract. If he has a great
rookie season, a great sophomore season, the amount of advertisement
dollars that are going to come his way is going
to be unbelievable.
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Speaker 3 (34:10):
After your sports weekend happens.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
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Speaker 3 (34:19):
All right, I.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Mean Lee's on ior right now, Lee, come on, Lee
spilled the beans?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
All right?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
What what was this weekend entail?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Because you just you sent over a video.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
I sent over a lot of videos, only something we
could talk about.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So you saw the band Sugar Ray this week I.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Did see Sugar Ray this weekend at the I can
say it Sat Francis de Sales Fair.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's the best little fair in the valley. I go
there every year. Is it? It looks like a nice stage.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I mean it doesn't look like it's cheaply done or anything. School.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
It is a school. It's a middle school as goes
all the way to eighth grade. But I have a
lot of friends who went to so Fts. They all
played have.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Good bands that played there. Hold on a second, Yes,
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
You went to a middle school fair, yes, and so
did Sugar Ray.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
There's there's like a whole lot of wrong. There's a
whole lot of wrong. What I go, what's a whole
bunch of eighth grader, seventh grader, sixth graders there?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they stay on the other side.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, yeah, what they're in class?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Yeah, I don't know, man. You know, I don't have
little I don't have siblings. It's weird. I don't like kids.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
They serve booze. You have a cop, do they serve booze?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
They like give they trophy?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
The same strange, man, this same is very strange, very odd.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
The last year I walked home. Yeah, did you see
the al Paco?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
How you were on your way, Eddie?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Which part of that story do you find the most alarm?
Man is telling the whole entire store, because I'm on
the same page. Is that Sugar Ray was playing in
a middle school fair that honestly, I'm going Sugar Ray,
it's surprising, right, be right? What do you think they
make for that gig? Like? How many people were there?
You probably donate the performance.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
We actually they actually set a number. It's over a
thousand people. A thousand people.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
How much you're paying to get in? Nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, he probably just did it to kind of prepare
for a tour or something.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
I don't know if his kids go there or he
went there or whatever, but they think he's a regular there.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
He's a regular and a middle school Fair. Yeah, it's
the whole band, or is it just Mark McGrath.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
This band has been together for ten years, so it's
not the original Sugar Ray.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
But I mean, they they kill it, they rocket, they
have a good time. I mean, I'm showing.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
They sold over ten million records, four top ten songs,
that's a long time ago. Hundreds and millions of streams,
tickets sold. I mean, they were one of the bigger
bands in like on the planet.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I forgot how many bangers they had.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
They they have some bangers. Man, Let's not get carried
away here. I mean, come on, you know they definitely
have spring break anthems.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
You put it on, you're singing to it. I mean
I'm not personally but you but you know it. Yeah,
I mean, but that's what I'm saying. Like and apparently
now middle school kids know it too. That was actually what.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
We're talking about was like probably mostly most of these kids.
Most of these kids probably don't even know.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Spread now what is on the menu though, are they?
Is it just beer and wine?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
No, that then everything? Of course.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
I went with my chili dog and chili fries. I
had pizza, pizza slice.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I mean, I'm not an chicken chicken bowl from the ear.
Bowls are going crazy.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
They call it the Asian, the Asian, the Asian bowl stand.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
That's literally what it's called. It's not me the machine
in your belly right now?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You know how you you ever hear an empty ice machine,
you ever get scared?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Belly.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
We're just like at home alone and you're like, what
what was that?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
It was the ice machine?
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Yeah, belly, Oh that means that That must mean I
had a lot of ice here today.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
No, that means you're out of ice, but you're full of.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I mean, so what what what drinks were at the
middle scho Did you drink everything?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Like everything?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I p a easy breezy, uh anything hard?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
No, they didn't have hard. I had to have my
flask on me for that tequila. Dude, Come on, what
what was it? Was it brown? Was it blanco? What
was it? Repissans? All right, you brought a flask to
a middle school with sugar ray place with eight graders
walking around. Okay,
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