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May 12, 2024 80 mins

Steve Hartman and Monse Bolanos discuss Tom Brady's recent roast and recap everything that went down on the special. Steve and Monse also talk shop on Braves Pitcher Max Fried being pulled in the 8th inning during his no-hit bid. Plus, Steve and Monse discuss more on the NBA coaching carousel, NBA Playoff recaps, and more!!

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Speaker 3 (00:43):
I want to thank carry for hanging with you. How
did that go?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I heard you, guy, I heard you. Guys did not
two eyes? He decided to double up.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
We did. We ended up doing four hours together.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
And you know, I'm not like you that can just
put a show together on the fly.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
So I actually prepped a show. No, yeah, no, I
I can't do you, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Steve Barvis does everything on the fly in the most
magical way. You know, you would not imagine that he
just walks in here just knowing already what he wants
to do, nothing written down, and I'm just along for
the ride.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well I can't do that, see, but that always puts
all my partners in a very challenging situations. So most
people that I work with, once they get it, they
just figured it out. Now, you were natural because obviously
you've been part of the Sunday so you know now
this operates. But yeah, I mean I put my partners
to a challenge. Guess we're not going to take phone calls,
you know, we will have some guests on none of that.

(01:33):
We're just going to be talking about sports. We got
a lot of things going on right now in the
sports where we'll keep our eye on this matchup right now.
Series tied at one apiece Dallas and Oklahoma City. Oklahoma
City came into the series on a roll, won the
first game easily, but then Dallas pulls the upset on
the road and now Dallas has a five point lead.

(01:53):
We're under thirty seconds to go right now and the
clock is running down. I don't know what OKAC is thinking.
They're down five twenty seconds to go.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, this game was sloppy to start, Like the first half.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I was like, what is going on here. It was sloppy.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
But luckily for both teams, they were both sloppy. So
that's why it's still a close game because they both
made just small little mental mistakes. They weren't taking care
of the ball.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
They everybody, well, Dodg, you just lost the ball right there. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okayc with a chance homegun gets fouled going to the
hoop right there, So okase not out of this. I
like what Jason Kidd said after getting blown out of
that first game, like we got to go back to
the drawing board. That was the sign of a not
only one of the great players of all time Hall
of Famer, but an experienced coach. And then Dallas came
back with the road victory in Game two, and now

(02:49):
with ten seconds to go, Dallas with the five point lead,
pretty much in the driver's seat.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Have you been excited about.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Any of these series that we have now we're now
down to the conference semi finals.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I mean, let's be real.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
The Western Conference has been more exciting, yes, than the
Eastern Conference for sure. And even though there have been blowouts.
You know, we saw Minnesota just kind of handle Denver,
but Denver has bounced back. They're back in it. So
despite the blowouts, the Western Conference to me has been
really really fun to watch, and even the Eastern Conference,

(03:24):
like watching the Magic just flourish, you know against the Calves. Now,
who I don't see flourishing are the Celtics.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Like the Celtics, I watched them.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Don't worry about the Celtics.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean, I know the Celtics looked ugly in that
second game, but they did the same thing against Miami
and then they blew them out three straight games.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Right, but Miami, they should have never lost to Miami
without Jimmy Butler. Jimmy was not even playing. That they
should have been embarrassed about. But they do this. They
let teams that they should not let in. They let
them get in and they get crushed at home.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
This isn't new.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
And they're playing without christophs porzingis I instead of trying
to fine tune things and not let these big.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Blowouts happening at home. It's just like y'all do this
every year every year.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
All right.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
So Homger made a couple of free throws, so Dallas's
lead is now three with seven point two seconds to go. Immediately,
they fell Doncic on the inbound pass, So as long
as he knocks down free throws.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, he's all banged up, his knee, his ankle, and
not that you know, everybody is banged up, but he's
banged up.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, that's the price you pay when you're handling the
ball ninety nine percent of.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
The time for your team.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
He made the first free throw. That was a big
one right there. So we'll keep our eye on this
Mavericks Thunder game. And then again the series that is
surprisingly tied at one game a piece Celtics and the Cavs.
That game's going to be tipping off here in a
little bit. So we'll keep you update on what's going
on with these NBA playoffs. But I mean, you know,
I wanted to these these series, and I'm looking at

(05:00):
OKAC and I'm looking at Minnesota and the question is
how real are they? By the way, doncas just missed
the second free throw. Unfortunately for OKC the clock's running
out and that is game. Yes, it is over. Dallas
has now taken a two to one series lead, holding
home court, beating Oklahoma City one oh five to one
oh one. So then you watch Minnesota go on the road,

(05:23):
not just beat Denver twice on the road, blow.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Them out, them out, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
And you're just suddenly looking at Denver like, wow, we
said that Denver did not look all that great despite
the fact that they won that series against the Lakers.
Remember they trailed all five of those games at halftime,
and then you get blown out twice at home.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
They're dead.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, for a second you thought they were.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
They're dead.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, and then they go into Minnesota and just annihilate
and make a fool out of us, Timberwolves. You know
who I give a lot of credit to is Malone
because I think as a coach and you you can
tell when a coach has been with a team and
a group of players for an extended period of time,
he knows how to connect with that team.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
It wasn't gonna be a panic mode, all right.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
We not only lost, we lost ugly, and we know
we can play better. And basically, I'm sure he said
going into Game three, I've been on you guys all
season long, this idea of just showing up when we
sort of want to show up because we're champions. It's
great to walk onto a court with a little bit
of arrogance a little swagger, but you got to play

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and we don't match up well.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Their strength matches with our strength.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Our side advantage which we were able to take advantage
of against the Lakers does not play out when they
got Karl Anthony Townsend go Bear in the middle, so
we don't have that same advantage. But for them to
come out on the road in Game three and just
annihilate the Timberwolves and obviously get themselves back into the series,
to me, gets down to the impact that a coach

(06:57):
has when you hold a team together, when they've been
through the wars together. There wasn't any panic. We can
get this thing done. Let's just get back to playing
our game. Let's not worry about what they're doing. Let's
worry about what we're doing. So it'll be interesting, obviously
as they get ready for Game four in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
All season, I think Denver looked like great. They were
just going through the motions all season. Yet they were
always like fighting for first play second place. They were
always at the top. But you felt like they were
going through the motions. You felt like they could do
a little bit more, and they managed to take down
the Lakers those first two games, especially the second one
without Rudy Gobert, you were just like, oh my goodness,

(07:35):
what maybe this is not the team that we thought
all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
You're right.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Give it to the coaching staff for making adjustments, for
saying whatever it is that they said, because they completely
turned it around. Now let's are we gonna talk about
the fact that Jamal Murray should not have been playing
that game because he should not have been playing that game,
and why he should have been suspended.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Oh, come on, you're gonna suspend people in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I just need I need you to be consistent, that's all.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay, let's say sick like Draymond Green. Remember when he
got suspended for kicking Lebron and that you know what, yes, yeah, yeah,
and he got suspended. Yeah, but he was a multi
time offender.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Agreed, And so is Patrick Beverley. And now that suspension
was also a joke.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Jamal.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
The thing is like, Jamal Murray threw something towards a
referee through something where someone could have slipped. And if
we're just gonna pretend like that's not a big deal.
What I'm afraid of is that other players are gonna
be like, Okay, so I can throw something and it's
gonna be Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's what I'm afraid of that this is just gonna.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Push the boundaries for other players watching paying attention. You
get Patrick Beverley four okay, cool, cool, repeat defender Jamal
Murray not an All Star, technically not an All Star,
but he is.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
We know he is for the Denver Nuggets and gets nothing.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
If I'm a player, I'm just paying attention to that,
and maybe I'm gonna push the boundary.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
All right, So let's let's assume for a second here
that the league did not do anything for Murray because
they want to say with Denver, and I'm thinking to myself,
why right. I mean Denver a year ago in their
matchup against the Heat, that series did not pull numbers. Yeah,
that series was down significantly from the previous year.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
When he had the Celtics and the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
So Denver, I've said this before the playoffs and even
began the Denver in a lot of ways is like
San Antonio was back in the hey day with Tim
Duncan and Tony Parker and Mona Genobili.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
They didn't pull numbers. No, you know, in a.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Lot of ways, Jokic is like Tim Duncan, the big fundamental.
He's not an exciting player. He's admired because he knows
how to play the game. His basketball IQ's off the charts,
but it's not like he's.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
A must watch.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, they pull the numbers at home.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Okay, So again I don't look at Denver as a
team that the league would be saying, oh, we have
got to get Denver into the NBA Finals again. If honestly,
if I were the league right now, I would be
far more favor of seeing the Timberwolves. Yeah, match up
against like the Boston Celtics, and I would see Denver back.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Again, I don't disagree, And it is funny that people
you know may have pushed that idea that, oh, it's
because they're protecting the Nuggets, but it does in reality,
it doesn't help that theory that there is a lot
of scriptedness happening when it comes to sports. It does
not help those people pushing that agenda. When you don't

(10:28):
suspend Jamal Murray just because I get it, it's Game three,
they're the defending champions, but it does not help that agenda.
I just think he should have because it was it
was as clear as day that you threw something in.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
The direction of the referee on the court.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Maybe he just had bad a maybe, but not in
the playoffs. That's that's the argument, Murray. All he always
seems to be on target in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, and especially if Anthony Davis is guarding him exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
All right.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So again, the MAVs have taken a two one seriously
with their win OVERKC, and now we get ready for
the Celtics and Cavaliers, two games every day in the
NBA in these playoffs.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
All right.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Coming up on the other side, one of.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
The most talked about non sports sports related events in
recent memory, and that was the roast of Tom Brady
and why this event did not play out as a
lot of people thought it would. We'll tell you all
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Speaker 2 (12:06):
Steve Harman and Monci Bilanos. Here Fox Sports Saturday. We
are live from the tai Iraq dot com studios. And
apparently Montsey, a very unforgivable thing has just happened in
Major League Baseball.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I know, I'm upset about it, and I was afraid
I was gonna jinx it, but I'm not jinxing anything
if this is correct.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Max Freed.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Max Freed of the Atlanta Braves had a no hitter
through seven innings on the road against the Mets. Brace
lead this game three to nothing, and they took Fred
out of the game. So he had one hundred and
nine pitches, which in this day and ages, a lot
of pitches.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I don't care you leave them in there.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
And they pulled Freed from the game, and then is
in right now, and relieve he just walked the first batter.
The no hitters intact see, I don't even count combined
no hitters.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I agree, I don't count them.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Then.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
You know, years ago, it used to be if you
had a no hitter through nine innings and then lost
the no hitter in extra innings, they still gave you
credit for a no hitter with that because you went
nine inns.

Speaker 8 (13:11):
I'm with that.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Then, I don't know. This was maybe fifteen twenty years ago.
They took all of those off the books. It has
to be at least nine innings, and it has to
be a complete a no hitter. At that time, there
had only been one combined no hitter that I had
ever seen before, and it was like eight and two
thirds and then somebody came in for the last out
in a one run game. Now you look at these,

(13:35):
there's been as many as six pitchers combined on a
no hitter.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
That is not a no hitter. A no hitter is
one one pitcher that throws a complete game nine innings
are beyond, and that's a no hitter.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
It's so funny when you'd get six pitchers to do
a combine no hitter.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
What about when the doctors seven any perfect?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Kay, don't give me sorry, now, one I thought you
were talking about the dots. There's recent combine no iteder
that they did. How about when they pulled kersh up
a perfect game?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
No, why why?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
But I've been against you know, all of this, the
keeping pitch count, the science behind it.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Stop. Just let them play now.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
If Max Freed said, hey, I'm not feeling it like okay,
then maybe then maybe. But I feel like, if you
have thrown seven innings of no hits, you want.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
To stay out there. I would want to stay out there.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
The idea of these pitchers arms will fall off. I've
said this before. Nolan Ryan, back in his heyday, who
threw harder than anyone in the history of baseball. He
had a game in which he threw over two hundred pitches,
two hundred pitches in a single game, and you know what,
twenty years later he was still pitching in the major
leagues and still throwing ninety five plus.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah. It's like Sandy Kofax, you know also, Yeah, would
throw until basically his arm was falling off.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
And this is the question.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
It's like, would you want to have a successful maybe
eight to ten year career or do you want to
preserve your arm? And then you pitch for fifteen years,
I would want eight years of just dominance.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
This really annoys me, all right, So anyway, and then
it's gets the first out in the eighth inning against Mets.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I guess we're five outs away from a combined no hit.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know, a man is only going to pitch the
eighth if he gets through it with no hits, and
then they'll bring in a ninth dinner.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
All right, So that's going on right now between the
Braves and Mets.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
All right, I want to bring up this roast with
Tom Brady that's getting all this notoriety behind the scenes,
Belichick and Bob krap not getting along and everything else.
But I want to zero in on Tom Brady for
a second year. In fact, I want to talk about
roast in general. Now I'm on one of these old
timers that remembers like the Dean Martin roast. They now

(15:51):
run commercials. You can get these sets, and these were
season comedians and they used to do this on a
regular basis and they just rotate you know who they're roasting.
It was basically the same twenty or so comedians back
in the day. But nowadays they want to do these roasts.
Once you know Jeff Ross is there, it's sort of
got that stamp of okay.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
This is a legitimate roast.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
So I'm watching Tom Brady through this thing, and I'm
thinking to myself because there were times when he looked
uncomfortable a little bit, and here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
About a roast, and this is okay, so we want
to roast you.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
First of all, if you are highly successful or famous
at whatever it is you do, a part of getting
to that level is ego. Nobody is that successful and
whatever they do unless you've got a raging ego, because

(16:52):
otherwise you don't have the desire to get to that
level unless you need to feed the ego. On the
other side of it is why do you have such
a big ego because you have such incredible insecurities. Overwhelming
insecurities often lead to overwhelming egos. So your insecurities drive

(17:17):
your ego to constantly feed that ego because you still
have insecurities. Tom Brady is a prime example of this.
Never got over the fact that he was a six
round draft pick. It was that insecurity that continue to
drive him to achieve what he did in his amazing
football career. So when you go to these roasts and

(17:39):
we see it time and again. You're like, well, he's
so big, he'll be fine. And you sit there and
they start taking shots at you and your loved ones
and your friends, and all of a sudden you think, well,
he doesn't have to worry.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
He's the goat, he's Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
But those insecurey you know how it is when somebody
is critical of you. Sometimes you can just dismiss it
because it just miss missfires. But it's every once in
a while somebody says something critical of you.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
And it hits.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
It hits a nerve.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
It hits a nerve where that insecurity or something about
something in you it triggered, is triggered. I mean they
were merciless against Gazelle. I mean it was funny what
but he you know, he was He was like a
mannequin sitting there. Yes, with all the shots they were

(18:37):
taking as Gazelle. But the one that got.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Him upset with the Bob Kraft one with Jeff Ross
brought up the massage situation, and I mean, what's Tom
Brady doing? I thought he was gonna slap it? What
is he will? Smith's he gonna don't ever mentions again,
I mean, what what was that about? I mean drops
an s bom on Jeff Ross. Ross was looking at
him like, dude, you know where you are?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, No, that was a bit of a weird moment.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Clearly that was something Maybe it seemed as though that
was something that was agreed upon before the roast, right,
and that it really wasn't supposed.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
To go down. That's how I took that.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
I was like, oh, this was maybe discussed that we
weren't gonna touch this subject.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
But with the roast, there's no rules, like well not.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
With Jeff Ross.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Know that's the rules of the roast. There are no rules.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
If you decide to have a roast, anything is on
the table, and you cannot assume that they're not gonna
dig deep and try and hurt you. Well, not pars
out the word, but trigger you, make you flinch, make
you feel because people want to be tough with roast.
So when you hear, oh I get to roast someone,
your goal is to make them squirm, you know, that

(19:43):
is the goal, not to make you laugh, well, maybe
laughing the scorm at the same time, but there is
an ultimate goal here.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
But everything is on the table.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Everything well obviously, I mean, they went on and on
about his obvious plastic surgery died, which was so apparent.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
I don't know if you saw it, Hynesty, this this
whole Uh, I.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Have not seen it, No, but you know, they're doing
shots of Tom Brady from you know, during his time
with the Patriots, like in two thoughts, He's not even recognized,
and then they would cut to a live interview with
his you know, big boofy hair when he was obviously
he was losing his hair when he was younger, and
his whole facial structure, it doesn't even look like the
same person, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
And then there were moments in the Rose where I thought,
I was like, it doesn't even look like his face
is moving, like.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean, I mean's and they were taking shots
at him about his plastic surgery and everything else, and
there was so the whole thing between Craft and Belichick,
and this I thought was pretty interesting, you know, when
you know.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
A couple of people that were there were talking. Edelman
and I guess Bledsoe were on and they were talking
on a podcast about.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well, I know what you saw on during the roast.
And by the way, some of the editing on this roast?
Why are you editing the rose? You edited out the
booing right of Kim Kardashian. Why would you do that
unless she her foot down and said take that out?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
So what were you doing there in the first place?
And when you're there and you're getting booed, that's fun.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Again, It was just weird things about the editing, that
reaction to the Bob Kraft comment, like all of that.
It was just like a ro should not be scripted,
and it almost was scripted, right, And that's that's where
you were like, Oh, so this it's not as good
as I thought initially.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh I would love to have seen the behind the
scenes between Belichick and Kraft. Did you see Apparently the
story goes is that Belichick was already there reuniting with
some of his former players, sort of holding cord, telling
some stories, and then Kraft walks into the room, and
all of a sudden, while Belichick is talking, guys are

(21:46):
walking away to greet Bob Kraft. Wow, Wow, which just
seems wow, what is that about? Much when we're talking
about former players, wouldn't talk about any current guys that
need to you know, kiss his ass?

Speaker 4 (22:03):
You know, Yeah, and you know that there is a
little bit of drama because it isn't the story that
Robert Kraft told Arthur Smith to.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Not well, that was the report right, right man. He said,
beware of Bill.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Be Bill Belt exactly. So you know there is like
a beef bruin there. There's beef everywhere. Shannon Sharp, Shack,
Drake Kendrick.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Well, my attitude, bomb Craft didn't have to have any
excuses for firing Belichick.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
He was awful.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, no, no, at the end, but he had lost
that locker room.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
He lost it.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I mean, I don't disagree with you, but I am thirteen.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Is a disaster. Way he handled the quarterback. You destroyed
a young quarterback that showed promises rookie season. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I think the problem was more at the end, still
letting him have so much power, right, That was always
with Bill.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, and Bill was not going to relinquish it was
he wasn't gonna give it.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
As we had said many times.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'd ask, you know, former Patriot, our buddy Rich Ornberger,
I said, if Kraft came to and said, look, Bill,
I still obviously have a lot of respect for you
as a coach, but your personnel moves are killing us.
We need to bring in somebody else. Do you think
that Belichick would agree with that?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
He said, no way. When you've had total control for
over twenty years, you're not going to relinkish that control.
So I'm sure that was part of the discussion.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
And if Belichick had said to him, I don't feel
comfortable with that, then Bob Kraft says, well, Bill, I
have no choice.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Then I'm going to let you go. Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
It was over, and I'm sure Belichick thought, fine, I'm
ready to move on to somewhere else. But the idea
that do we understand?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Are we one hundred percent sure about that whole thing
that he bad mouthed Belichick Arthur Blank when he was,
you know, considering hiring him as the coach of the falcon.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I not what do you mean by sure? I'm not
sure sure, but that's the report.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I can tell you this from personal experience. I have
had situations where former and lawyers didn't always have the
best things to say about me. But fortunately the people
that hired me kept tiring me. Said okay, but I'm
going to take him anyway.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, And maybe that's it would not surprise me if
it's true. I guess is the point right, because Bill
Belichick is still considered because of his history. I'm sure
everybody is willing to take a chance on him regardless.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I would say so, yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Even though nobody took a chance on him yet this season.
So it wouldn't surprise me if it is that Robert
Craft wanted to kind of stop that because he's like,
I don't want you to take your geniusness to another team.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Even though it fell flat with us the last couple
of years.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I didn't think the Atlanta job was all that great
for Belichick. I know it's sort of a weak division.
Well it's the weakest weekend.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
And I think that's the selling point. You actually have
a chance to win the division.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
But the fact that that was the only team that
really seriously considered Belichick.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, yeah, I know it is weird.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
It is weird because again, I would take a chance
on Bill Belichick. Right.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
All right, let's find out what's trending right now. A
guy that's been well, he hangs out.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Here all the time. Artin Weis is in the house. Smart.
What's going on? Man?

Speaker 9 (25:04):
You know, Steve, I don't just come here for fun.
I do get paid to come here and do this,
do you really? Yeah, I don't just volunteer my time
at the local national radio station.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
You know. Really there's a compensation involved in this.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
Well I'm not saying I'm retiring anytime soon, but yeah,
I do get paid, right, You guys get paid?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Is that from where of the Millers? You know what
talk you about yet?

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (25:31):
Is that that movie with Jennifer Aniston and Jason Tudakas
and they go on to the road trip.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, they pretend to be a family with these two kids.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
One it's like a runaway and the other.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, and then the kid finds out they're all making money,
and he's like, you guys are got any money?

Speaker 9 (25:47):
Well, the NBA, those players got paid today as well,
game checks, much more than I make doing this right here.
But the Mavericks took a two to one lead in
the Western Conference semifinals today, beating the Thunder one oh
five to one on one PJ.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Washington.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
It led to Mavericks with twenty seven points. Kyrie and
Luca both had twenty two. Shay Gilders Alexander had thirty
one to ten rebounds and six assists in the loss.
We'll see the Boston Selvions in the Cleveland Cavaliers in
just a little while now, eight thirty Eastern. The tip
for that, Christaph porzingis, as Monci alluded to just a
moment ago, he's still out. Jared Allen a game time
decision with his rib injury. Two playoff hockey games today,

(26:22):
Game four for the Rangers on the Hurricanes. Puck dropped
seven pm Eastern, so just around the coroner there. New
York leads with a three on. New York has a
three to nothing lead in the series. Game three Stars
and the Avalanche ten pm Eastern Net. Series tied one
game a piece. Commander's rookie Jerzon Johnny Newton had surgery
to repair a partial Jones fractor in his foot earlier

(26:43):
this year. Reports are now saying he needs surgery to
repair the same injury in his other foot. Barn's first
round pick Roma Denze missed the day. Two have practiced
earlier today with the straam hamstring team says his absence
is precautionary. Zed Williams, professional lacrosse player, was invited to
the Buffalo Bill's rookie Mini caamp. He was an All
Pro and MVP in twenty twenty in the Pro Lacrosse League.

(27:05):
Jarvis Landry, former pro bowler, is a Jaguars rookie mini camp.
He had a down year twenty twenty two, didn't play
in twenty twenty three, so we're started all over trying
to make a team and trying to make that Jacksonville
Jaguars final roster. The Patriots have officially announced Elliott Wolfe
as executive vice president of Player of Personnel. He'll have
control over the fifty three man roster and the salary cap.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Steve and Moncey. Back to you, guys, Hi Martin, Thank
you very much.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Check in with you a little bit later on Once again,
this is Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Hartman, Moncey Belanos. We
are live from the tirerack dot Com studios. All right,
we'll get off that again. The thing about these roast is,
I mean, did you I mean, I know you watched it.
Were you laughing a lot?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
I didn't watch the live stream of it, so I
watched it after the fact.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Did you think Kevin Hart was funny? I think he
dropped a lot of F bombs.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah, I mean I like Kevin Hart. He wasn't like
the funniest to me. But I do like him, so
you know when you already are into someone's bit because
it's his bit, it's his style. I didn't mind it,
but I thought some were really funny. I just again,
the goal is to make you squirm, so there were
some that I squormed. I was like, that's funny. But

(28:19):
roasts are not for everybody.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, And the thing that just got me it just
seemed like Gizelle was being roasted way more than Tom.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, that it was a lot.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
It was, but again, anything's on the table, and it's
still such a big story.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
You still hear a lot of Gizelle.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Tom Brady, it's just Gizel Gizell.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
You think she inspired him to get all this plastic
surgery done.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
I mean, oh man, I would assume that she definitely
aware of it.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yes, I don't know if she encouraged it or not.
I wanted to talk about Wemba Yama for a second year.
So Wemmy was the unanimous Joys for NBA Rookie of
the Year. And honestly, although Rudy Gobert won his fourth
Defensive Player of the Year award, you could make an
argument that Wemby should have been defensive Player of the

(29:08):
Year as well.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I mean when you look at his numbers per minutes memory,
he averaged less than thirty minutes a game. His numbers
were staggering.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Led the league. Obviously in block shots. No rookie had
done that since my new Bowl.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
But here's the thing that sort of gets to me,
because he's all excited about the future, and I'm like,
all right, let's remember this little stat.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
You want to hear a stat you.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And your stats throat at.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Last year, the San Antonio Spurs were twenty two and sixty,
which put him in line too, and we just knew
they were going to be the ones right to get Wemby.
This year with Wimby, they were twenty two and sixty.
They have the exact same record. In fact, the only
reason they got to that they won seven of the
last eleven games to get to the exact same number

(29:56):
of wins they had the year before. So you had
a complete name team two years ago. You go twenty
two and sixty, conveniently, get the number one pick and
a generational talent like Wemby, and you add him and
he plays up to maybe exceeds expectations as a rookie,
certainly did in my eye, and you still won twenty
two games.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So I mean Wemby says he's excited about the future.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I wouldn't be all that excited until I start adding
teammates that can actually change things. And the reason I
bring this up is is that in the case of
the two other big men Spurs that won Rookie of
the Year, David Robinson and Tim Duncan, there was a
dramatic turnaround in the fortunes of the Spurs in their

(30:42):
rookie season. And the fact is, no matter how good
Wemby was, they didn't win a single additional game from
how how many they won the year before.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
So you're not wrong that he definitely needs some other
weapons around him, There's no question about that. I'm wondering
if maybe they try and get like Trey Young or
somebody like that to go pare him, you know, with Wemby.
But I think the difference here is that now there
is a clear path as to what the Spurs want
to do.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
So that's why I don't mind that he said that.
I get what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
It was the exact same record nothing changed you. You didn't.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
You didn't move the needle that much for the first show.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Why was it that his game?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Because again, when David Robinson went to the Spurs, they
went from like twenty nine to sixty wins. Tim Duncan,
there was a big leap in wins when he was
a rookie with the Spurs. Why Why didn't Wemby's numbers
translate into w's for the Spurs.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
No, it's got to be just this switch from European
basketball to this and figuring out how to make him
thrive in the NBA. I'm sure it was just a
lot of figuring things out as they went along, maybe
testing a lot of experiments. With David Robinson, it was like,
go be you just do you. Maybe with Victor win Boniam,
I was like, let's figure out how to make sure

(31:57):
that your style of play is successful translating to the NBA.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
And maybe it's just taking taking more than the one year.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
I just seemed a little weird to me.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Sorry, let's cut you off.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
I also just think like during David Robinson's time, the
skill level was different than the skill everyone's good.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Now, Like I feel like everybody.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Day they were, but like every now it's like megastars superstars.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I don't love star.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
You know, it's not megastars the rest of that Spurs roster.
I know.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
There's too many teams in the NBA had thirty teams,
way too many teams. You got water down talent across
the board, and so you have a lot of really
bad teams. Yeah, when you could talk about the superstar level,
I agree with you there.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I mean, look at I am.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Some of the guys said, like Kyrie Irving, who has
to sit in the shadow of Luka Doncic. You when
you watch Kyrie Irving's skill set, he's one of the
players in this league that blows me away. Like he
he can do things his ball handling skills, getting to
the hoop, you know, knocking down shots and everything else.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
There's something about Kyrie Irving's game that I just electrifies me,
you know. And it's weird because he's on a team
where a guy like Donca just monopolizes the basketball. But no,
I on the upper ashelant, there probably more players with
outstanding skill sets at the top. But because you have

(33:25):
a water down league with thirty teams, these rosters are
low to a players that are just forgettable.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
There's a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I hate to tell you this, Steve. I don't think
we're getting rid of any teams.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
No, if anything, they're going to expand it. Yea even
further water down the product out there all right. On
the other side, a lot of talk about coaching vacancies
in the NBA and one coach current coach's decision about
his future can change the whole dynamic of the NBA.
We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2 (34:11):
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Speaker 3 (34:19):
Paul Skeens.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Paul Skeens, who was the first pick in the draft
this year, right.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Well, the last year, because this June the most recent draft.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yes, and made his major league debut today for the
Paris Yes, and it went pretty well. Yeah, he did
give up three runs, but he struck out seven and
four innings. And yeah, he's he's a big guy now.
He's dating what's her name, Olivia, don't he done?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, the gymnasts from LSU.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Who apparently made more NIL money than any other collegiate athlete.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
You know, it's actually quite interesting because I was watching
the game and.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
The the gal was interviewing Livy Dunn in the seats about,
you know, this moment because they lived together or they
were traveling together, they got the call and then all
of a sudden they packed up and they were on
their way that he was making his debut, right, and
so they were talking to her and the gal was like, so,
in all of everything that you've experienced with him, what
is the biggest moment you're gonna remember from his career?

Speaker 4 (35:20):
And Mike the question was like, huh, she's an athlete,
she's her own gymnast, and you're asking the girlfriend what
the biggest moment for him is.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
It was such a weird question because they're not married.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
I thought Livy Dunn was kind of like, yeah, like,
you know, he won an LSU I've been there, this
is is.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Definitely up there.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
But it was to me it was like such a
weird question to ask a fellow athlete who is also
one of the greatest gymnasts and a huge name.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
For herself, probably more famous than him.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
She's not very tall because she is a gymnast.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
She is a.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Gymnast and he's six six. Yes, yes, does that seem
where to you when you see the dynamic because you're
not tall, I'm not when you see let's say, someone
a woman that's five feet tall with a guy that's
sixty six or seven feet, I.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Mean, listen, sixty six. That's a lot. Because I'm five feet.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Sean is five to eleven, and I when I see
pictures of us, I'm like, I'm not short.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
That's what I look like next to you.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yes, Oh my goodness, whoa that's in my head. I
don't look like that, but I guess that's how people
see us.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I can't imagine a six to six.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
That guy would have to like come all the way
down to give me a kiss. That guy's back would hurt.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Well, you just have to walk around on his knees
all day. Yeah, that's basically what it is. We still
have that no hitter going. We are two outs away
from a no hitter.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Comebine, no hitter, Come comebine.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
No hitter.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Max Freed went seven no hit innings. Men Is then
came in and got through the eighth.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Inning, and now we are one out of way.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Iglesias is in for the Braves right now to close
out this no hitter. By the way, if you add
up the pitches of the three pitchers for the Braves,
one hundred and fifty two pitches. Now, I'm sure they
were thinking freeds already at one hundred and nine. How
many more pitches would he have to throw to get

(37:15):
through two more full innings? Well, based on the two
relief guys, it's a lot, a lot lot, Yeah, And
here could be the last out or is it going
to be a home run? And it is a home run?
Wo one out away from a no hitter, Iglesias gives
up a home run to JD Martinez.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Of course it's Jady Martinz prought.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Up us away.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
He pounded that pitch and that goes not only no hitter,
but the shutout as well.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
So the Mets do not get no hit.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Jadie Martinez delivers with a two out bottom of the
ninth inning home run to avoid the no hitter.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I don't hate this uniform that the Mets are wearing.
By the way, this some gray and black, a little
bit of like purple.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Well, first of all, I like the NYC Yes, I
do too. I like that. I like that on the
front of the uniform too.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
No, I like this uniform.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
All right, I want to start this conversation because we're
going to do much more of this on the next hour.
I got a question for you, Clipper fan extraorded in there. So,
even though the Clippers got eliminated, which again was predictable
with think Kawhi Leonard watching from the sidelines again at
the end of a postseason, tyleru is, in my opinion,

(38:33):
one of the premier coaches in this league.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
I've always been a fan of Tyler.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
And all the buzz is is that they want to
extend his contract. He has one year remaining on his contract,
so he is under contract currently with the Clippers through
next season. But there's this buzz that they want to
extend his contract. Well, the Clipper season ended, how many years?

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Like a week and to have ago right and the Lakers.
You know, the buzz is the Lakers would understandably be
interested in hiring a coach with Tyler's resume, but they can't.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
They have of my coach.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Well, they can't touch him because he's under contract to
the Clippers. So what is the hold up right now
in that contract extension? Because again, you have an owner
who's one of the ten wealthiest people on the planet
that can outpay any other owner in.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
This league in terms of how much money he gives
to a coach. What's what's the hold up?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
I'm guessing the hold up has to do a little
bit with Paul George and what he decides to do
a little bit of that.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, you also have to decide on James Harden. James,
are you going to keep James Harden?

Speaker 4 (39:45):
I think they want to run it all back exactly
the same way. I think that is the goal. I'm
not saying that's the right answer. I'm just telling you
what I think is going to happen. I think they're
trying to run it on.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
You think tyger Lou wants everybody back. See, this is
what it comes down to for Tylu because he does
have options.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Now, again, they're not going to fire him.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
So you know, again, ty I don't understand unless Tylu quits,
he's not available, right, He's under contract. So unless he
says I quit, right, he's going to be the Clippers
coach next season.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
But like you said, is he all that?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Is he all that gung ho of a reunitingum of Kawhi,
Paul George and James Harden for another run.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
He might not be gung ho, but I think that's
what's gonna happen. And I think that's what they're waiting
on because I agree. I don't think it's money. Balmer
can give him whatever he wants. I don't think it's
about money. I think he's just kind of waiting to
see what Paul George decides to do.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Well, see that that has a big bearing on another
team in the league. We'll get to all that and
much more coming up. This is Fox Sports Saturday, rolling
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here with Montsey this week after attending my daughter's college
graduation last week.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
That's right, you weren't gallivantine, you know, a good father.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, spending money, spending.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I feel like everything I spent on her graduation was
more than I spent on putting.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Her through college. I mean it's it was just so much.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Somebody layers to the graduation. And of course, my beautiful
daughter paris honor student everything else. Yeah, she's one of
those check every box girls.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
And so I'm very sweet.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
I just you know, well, you say no, I'm dad.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, but you can't. You can't your daddy.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
By the way, Mother's Day tomorrow, Yes, how do you
feel about Mother's Day?

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Well, you know, I'm not a mother aside from my pet. Yeah,
and that's as far as I heard your.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Pet intend to get doing something nice for me.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
She probably thinks he's getting something for a brother's Day,
some sort of extra treat or something. But I my
mom is wonderful, and I really admire all moms. I
have a lot of friends who are moms, and I
see what they do and how much they sacrifice, and
I don't think moms get enough credit, which is one
of the reasons I don't want to be a mom,
because it's a lot of work, and I see everybody
go through it and yeah, no, it's not a lot

(42:28):
of work.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Well. Here, here's the thing about being divorced.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Okay, as I have been for a number of years now,
and obviously I have a great admiration for my ex
Denise because she's been an amazing mom. Yeah, I mean
you met my kids. You said, you said the parents
are crazy, the.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Parents are crazy, and the kids are just absolutely lovely.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Lovely and normal. And she loved that because she agrees.
But here's the thing. When when you're married with children, guys,
know this, you're on the hook for five halidays. You're
on the hook for Valentine's Day, which I don't get
after you're married, her birthday correct, Mother's Day, yes, Anniversary yes,

(43:13):
and then you know Christmas or whatever that is. That's
five holidays.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Now. The great thing about being divorced that's gone.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Christmas is gone, Anniversary gone, that one's gone gone.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Valentine's Day obviously is our birthday now. So I just
I just have the one, the one.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
You better make it good.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Well, I get a nice card, that's it, a card, card.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Card card. Do you put something in the card?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, some of the nice words about what a great
job she's done is and it's sincere because I do
think she's done an amazing job for our children.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yes, so that's good.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
I'm glad you're giving Denise at least a card, maybe
throw a.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Flower in there.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Part of my job as well is to make sure
my boys I'm not worried about my daughter.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
My boys remember.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
That is important.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
You're right, yes, you know.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah, me and my brothers have a group message and
will be like, hey, reminder it's mom's birthday.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Hey, reminder it's dad's birthday. Or if something's going on, reminder.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I mean that's my job.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, good, good, Good for you.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
And as I say, make your life easy. I try
to convey this to my boys constantly. Why complicate your life?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Do not irritate your mother? Just don't.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Okay, all right, So here's something that's sort of caught
my eye here. You may have heard this alleged bet. Well,
it wasn't alleged because they made it publish.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, it was a thing.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Former teammates at LSU, Jayden Daniels, some Lake neighbors had
made a bet ten thousand dollars to whoever's named the
offensive rookie of the Year because they didn't explain if
neither one of them is offensive, Rookie of the Year, if.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Caleb Williams wins that you paint him.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Ten not a bet. I didn't you know, So they
were they basically told, you can't do that. You can't
do that, You can't you can't make a public bet, right,
that's the word in public, that's the word.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yes, Here's the one thing I know my late great partner,
and if you've listened to me for a thousand years,
you remember the great Chet forty. Jet forty was the
longtime producer director Monday Night Football whose career unraveled because
of a gambling addition. It was well documented and he
was in gambling rehab over the last five years of

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his life that I worked with him before he passed away.
Here's the one thing he told me, because I used
to ask how he goes how much and this is
back in the nineties, how much gambling is going on
in professional sports?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
And he goes a lot more than you know.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I'm not surprised because.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
If you're a gambler. Because we were talking about Jordan.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
This is when Jordan suddenly retired after it was uncovered,
the checks were found where he you know, money had passed.
It wasn't like he retired because I just have this
itch to play minor league baseball, Okay, and then he
returned because the NBA needed Michael Jordan.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
But here's the thing Chit told me, he said about
athletes gambling. If you have a gambling mentality, the idea
of betting on something where you actually have control of
the outcome of a game is very enticing. That thrilling,
really enticing, where I can control the game. Basketball has

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been hit with more gambling scandals than any other sport
because a single player can have a much bigger effect
than a single player in baseball or football, much more so.
And this is why it's so prevalent and so but
here's the thing. For years, these major sports leagues shied

(46:59):
away from any involvement, any hint of any association with gambling.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Those days are over, they're over.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
You are bringing in billions of dollars of revenue through
these gambling establishments, and you're been out of shape because
a couple of college teammates entering the NFL want to
make a little bet, saying, well, if you win or
I win. The other's got to pay ten thousand dollars
for being offensive Rookie of the Year. If I were
the NFL, honestly I would, I would find a way

(47:31):
to sort of play.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
With this right. To me, there's gotta be away.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
To play with something like that, instead of just shutting
it down because I'm sure this bet is still on,
it's just that it's no longer a public right.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
In their comments after oh, we just were unaware of
the gambling rules.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
We didn't know the details.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
And to a point, I actually think that's true because
it's so great in the fell in the sports betting
is great, like in the NFL. It's like, oh, you
can bet, but you can't bet from the facilities, right like, okay,
but if I crossed.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
The street, I can bet.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Like it's it's a little bit great for me, and
I think it should be more black and white than
it is. But that's why I think they can't even
slightly open that door.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Because I agree what's wrong with this bet?

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Their buddies, they're trying to show each other up.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
What is wrong with this bet?

Speaker 4 (48:24):
I totally agree with you, But the NFL cannot even
pretend that that's Okay, they can't even kind of peek
through that door.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
They can't. They can't allow that. It's already a bit
of a problem.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I just wonder how many people out there really care
that these well, I'm just I'm just talking about gambling
in general. You know, when we talk about Pete Rose,
and we talk about back in the sixties when Paul
Horning and Alex karras two Hall of Fame players were suspended.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
For an entire year.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Sure, in every one of these cases, they bet on
their own team. They never bet against their team. There's
no evidence they ever threw a game or did anything else.
They were members of the best teams in the league,
and they wanted to cash in on it. By the way,
you know, a guy like Floyd Mayweather Junior, he was
betting on himself constantly to win fights. Yeah, put put

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down those X amount of dollars millions that I'm gonna
win this fight.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
M h.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I love that incentive, me too, me.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I No, I have no problem with you betting on
your team. I really don't. It's when you try and
manipulate the situation.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
But if you are found in any way throwing a game,
hinting at anyone. You're gone, You're you'relimited, no questions asked,
You are out the door.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Goodbye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
But sometimes, in this day and age, where all these
athletes are making so much money, where's the real incentive?
We know there are athletes like the Tom Brady's of
the world who willingly to took less money to ensure
that his organization could get the best possible players to
reach his ultimate goal, which was winning championships. But not

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everyone's wired like that. No, a lot of them are
just you know, they make a lot of money, and
some of that incentive goes out the window. And as
a fan, I want to believe that my team. You've
got big money guys on your team. With the Clippers,
right nik in thirty forty to fifty making sixty million

(50:33):
dollars a year, so much money, how wouldn't you want
to know that there's something on the line that may
be further incentivized. I mean they did this mid season
tournament was actually it was an early season tournament where
you know, the players got bonuses and everything else to
I don't know, make them want to win this in
season tournament.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Yeah, There's definitely been a lot of incidences in sports
right where we see that money does drive people. That
does We just saw it in the NBA with the
n Season tournament.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
But you can't. You can't open that door. You can't.
But I agree with you. I feel like there's a
way to make this work.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
I just don't know how, because imagine this bet that
these two players did for offensive for k of the year.
If it was like a public thing, and you can
join in on the bet, like add to each of
their you know, banks, and then you split the money
like everybody that participates. It's like, if you believe him,
give money to him. If you believe in him, give
money to him, and then at the end you get

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money or your money goes to a stranger.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Gambling is such a big part of this situation. The
NFL is going to have to figure this out. So
they squashed this now, but at some point right now,
I mean, eventually, these NFL stadiums will have mechanisms for
you to gamble.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
At your very seat. I promise you that's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I read that Davenbusters, you know that, like Kaid, that
you can now bet against your friends at these games
at Davidbusters.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
That's what I read.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
I was like, oh my, we're already doing that. We're
already doing it.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Who we are?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
So for years the NFL, I I just remember so
many conversations with co hosts of mine that insisted that said, well,
you know, the NFL is not about gambling. Really, what
do you think took this sport to the top of
the charts. There's all that gambling all right?

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Coming up? Coming up.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
On the other side, it's decision time for one of
the premire franchises in all of professional sports.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Which team? Which decision? We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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You'll see this show posted right after we get off
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have the Cavaliers who stunned the Celtics Game two of
that series in Boston. That series heading back to Cleveland
earlier today, Dallas did defeat ok See to take a
two to one series lead.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
In that matchup.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
One team that's been long gone from the playoffs are
the Lakers, and you know when you're sort of justifying
their early exit by saying, yeah, well you lost to
the you know, the best team in the league, the Nuggets,
and then the Nuggets get pounded in back to back
games against Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Obviously they did rebound in Game three, but.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
That to me would be a sign that you're further
away from a championship than you originally thought.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Me thought if your.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Gauge was well, we were leading the Denver Nuggets all
five games at halftime, so we're not that far away.
And then that same Nuggets team gets annihilated at home
in back to back games by Minnesota. The fact is
you're not getting any younger.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
You're not getting any younger, and that goes with the
Clippers and a lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
You got one hundred and forty seven games in the
regular season out of a potential one sixty four of
your two superstars.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Are you going to get that again?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
That's the most games Obviously Anthony Davis has ever played
in the season for the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
What are the odds that he's going to do it again?

Speaker 4 (54:24):
And with Lebron Remember like the story at the start
of the season in like low minutes, that.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Didn't happen at all.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
No, he played way more than I minutes per game. Yeah, yeah,
and good for him, Good for Anthony Davis. But how
is that going to keep going? How are you going
to get better at knowing that all these other teams
that are thriving are the young teams.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
So Darvin Ham was the sacrificial lamb and it wasn't
a surprise. And I say this about Darvin Ham. Look,
Darvin Ham is one of those guys that I think
is essential to have on your assistant coaching staff because
he is a locker room guy. He's a guy that
when things can get a little rouffled, brings a certain
level of credibility. He has the right demeanor to settle

(55:06):
things down. That's the role he played all those years
in Milwaukee. What he's not is really an effective head coach. Yeah,
he made too many mistakes, lineup mistakes in game decisions,
constantly standing there with his hands in his pockets.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
It just he's not a head coach.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
No, and that's not a bad thing.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
You have to realize that, you know, once you go
through the experience, that just because you're a good assistant
coach does not mean you can jump to being a
head coach.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Right.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Yeah, it's with everybody across all sports, not just in basketball.
But there were times where when Anthony Davis said, we
just don't know what we're doing out there. Sometimes I
believed that because you saw sometimes in a timeout where
it was like, are you running a play? It doesn't
seem like you're drawing up a play. It seemed like
he did not know what to do in the moment
to make adjustments.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Well, whoever is highed as the lakers next coach is
going to be Lebron's fourth coach.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah, since he joined the Lake. Yeah, he had Luke Walton.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, he was Jettison, he had Frank Vogel, he was fired,
Darvin Ham he was fired.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
You see a pattern going here?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, yeah, No, it's definitely a patter.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
In fact, since Phil Jackson resigned after the twenty eleven season,
the Lakers have had six head coaches in twelve years.
None of them lasted more than three years. Yeah, so
now you have to decide again, who's the right fit
for this Lakers team. Lebron's not going anywhere as long

(56:30):
as you pick the guy he wants. AD's under contract, obviously,
Reeves's under contract, Hot Chamurs under contract. It's a player
option coming up a d LO. So you have to say,
all right, do we want a tylu type coach, You
wish a guy that you know is a veteran coach,
has a proven track card. You want that kind of guy,

(56:53):
or do you want just some lap dog for Lebron
to allow Lebron to essential run the team.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
That's what they have to decide.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
There is no good answer for the Lakers because those
are the two options. You want somebody that's tied down
right now, or are you going to bring in his
friend JJ Reddick might be a good coach, maybe, but
he has no assistant coaching experience right that I know of, nothing, nothing,
nothing except played fifteen years in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Played fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
By the way, this is not this is not new
in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
No, it's not, no, no, no, I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Jason Kidd went from playing to being a head coach.
I think he's one of the more effective head coaches.
He has shown that he's Larry Bird when he became
the head coach, was a Coach of the Year. So
it's it's not unprecedented that you have a player. But
look at the Steve Nash situation in Brooklyn. How did
that work.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Went as quickly as it came Exactly?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
It didn't work, it did it?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
So, I mean, the fact that Reddick can break down
a game is an analyst well Soka Mark Jackson was
a head coach. Yeah, you know, it's it's a crap shoot.
But what's the message sent to the rest of the team,
if you pick the podcast partner of Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Just that this was the plan all along. There's no
way to not see.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
It that way, right, that this was the plan all along. Hey,
we're gonna do this podcast together. So all of a sudden,
your name and my name are together constantly, people talking
about it, you and I, and then all of a
sudden it's like, oh, maybe JJ Reddick could be the coach.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Well, and then they're talking about, you know, bringing in
veteran coaches around him, right, that's then why are you
hiring Reddick. If you're bringing in people around him that
have been head coaches in the league, veteran coaches, what
purpose does he serve?

Speaker 4 (58:35):
If this was not the Lakers organization that is so
used to winning, and the expectation of winning isn't there,
then people would be more like, Yeah, give JJ Reddick
the opportunity. Do you want to go be the Charlotte
Hornets head coach? People would be more open to that.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
But it's because it's.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
The Lakers organization and the last couple of years, I
think Laker fans have been upset and annoyed with the
way things have been handled. And I don't blame them.
Four coaches in five years, four years. That's not what
the Lakers are known for. That's not what they have
been building, you know, since a doctor Buss was around.
That's not what it was. That's not what it's supposed

(59:12):
to be. And it's unfortunate that that's where they are.
But it does seem that JJ Reddick is being pushed
into the direction of being the Lakers head coach.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
It's just amazing when you think about dominance of a team.
When the Lakers beat the Celtics, who win the twenty
ten championship, Kobe's last championship. They had been in the
league sixty two years, going back to their Minneapolis days.
They had been to the NBA Finals thirty one times,
exactly half of those years, not the playoffs NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah, no, that's a lot, thirty one out.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Of sixty two years, with sixteen championships at that point.
Since then, of course, they've been to one NBA Final,
one championship in the bubble in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
So if you, I mean, I don't know what the
mindset is of Laker fans these days. I know as
a as a someone that has followed the Lakers religiously.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Since I was a child, I know what my expectations are.
They have not changed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah, I mean, I can still live by the words
of Kobe Bryant and conversations we had. How do you
judge a season? He goes, they're two grades A and F.
Either you win a championship or you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I go, does it matter if you get to the
NBA finals F if we don't win a championship F.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
And I think with Laker fans, I feel like there's
the Laker fans that have been around for years, and
then they're the lebron fans who are now Laker fans, right,
and they don't see eye to eye.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Oh yeah, they got excited about getting in the Western
Conference finals and I'm like, really, and getting swept by Denver?
You're excited about that? Get out of here, turn in
your car. You're no Laker fan. All right, let's find
out what's trenning. Mark Medina is going to be joining
us our NBA inside round the side, But first Martin
is back. I don't know, Martin. When you look at
your beloved Michigan Wolverines, uh huh National champions Right, the

(01:01:10):
bar has been set well.

Speaker 9 (01:01:12):
I think a big part of the setting the bar
is now living in an RV off in Coasta, Mesa
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
So what do the expectations for next year? Why would
you want anything less? I mean, don't get me wrong,
I want Michigan win national championship every year. That'd be amazing.

Speaker 9 (01:01:26):
But when you have such lack of coninuity at the top,
it is kind of concerning.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yeah, there's a little concerning.

Speaker 9 (01:01:33):
But I'll say this, if they finish, if they finish
with double digit wins and beat Ohio State, then I'll
be good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
So Ohio State is yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I understand that the rivalry game is the big one
as you're winning that well, especially because let's say this
is hypothetically speaking, Michigan finishes like, I don't know, six
and seven on the year, but beats Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Do you understand the.

Speaker 9 (01:01:55):
The eruptions that will happen in Columbus in Columbus that year,
that will be amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I know, as a UCLA fan, we weren't great, you know,
but the last five years that Terry Donnie was a coach,
they beat sc every year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
So there you go, there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:02:08):
I mean, you know, sometimes those rivaliy games, though, they
matter way too much. Uh. Speaking of the NHL Game
four Rangers at the Hurricanes just got started New York
with a three nothing, leading the series but trailing so far.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Eight thirty left in the first period, Carolina two.

Speaker 9 (01:02:22):
Rangers won Hurricanes with seven shots on goal to the
Rangers six. This one wraps up Game three tonight between
the Stars and the Avalanche. That series tied one game apiece.
That's ten pm Eastern for the puck drop. Earlier today,
the Mavericks beat the thunder to take a two to
one lead in the Western Conference Semis one oh five
to one on one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
PJ.

Speaker 9 (01:02:41):
Washington led the Mavericks with twenty seven points. Luca and
Kyrie both had twenty two. Say Gilders Alexander thirty one,
ten and six in the loss. Red rusher Budd Dupree
officially signing with again the aforementioned Jim Harbaugh and Los
Angeles Chargers. The Patriots efficiently announced, Elliott Wolf.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
You like that, you like Budd Dupree. Listen, It's something, something, It's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Something, it's something. I gotta get excited.

Speaker 9 (01:03:04):
Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack something with Bud Dupree.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
There you go.

Speaker 9 (01:03:08):
The patriotsvisional announced Elliot Wolf, executive vice president of Player Personnel,
Commander's rookie defensive tackle jers On. Johnny Newton had surgery
to a pair a partial Jones fracture in his foot
earlier this year. Well, he's not gonna need surgery to
repair the same injury in his other foot. And Bear's
first round picking Room and Dunze miss practice earlier today
with the strained ham saying ham string, the team said

(01:03:30):
his absence is precautionary.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Steve Moncy.

Speaker 9 (01:03:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, thank you, Martin.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
As always, once again, we are live from the tire
rack dot Com Studios. Join us right now as he
so graciously does every single Saturday here on our show,
our NBA Insider here at Fox Sports, Rader Mark Medinaz
is joining us again and Mark when we talk, we
were talking Moncie and I about this coaching situation.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I'm I want to start with Tylu right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Because ever since the Clippers season ended, now he's under
contract next year with the Clippers, they've been talking contract extension,
and since that conversation over the last ten days Crickets,
we're not hearing anything about him rushing to sign an
extension just yet as the Clippers head coach. Why is
that what's going on with the Clippers and tying down

(01:04:24):
ty Lou long term as their coach.

Speaker 7 (01:04:27):
Yeah, I think it's more cheese and eyes than any
sign that these talks could break down. I think that
knowing Steve Omer's wallet, which is pretty thick, that they
will find a number to keep him. I think the
other thing that we hate to have to keep in
mind that the timing of it doesn't necessarily mean that
all of a sudden Tyler could become available. He still

(01:04:49):
has one year left on his contract, so thankfully for
the Clippers and for Montse's stress level, there's no scenario
that all of a sudden the Lakers could swoop in.
It would have to be about you know, trading him
or you know, breaking up the contract, which I don't
think would happen.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Yeah, can you just tell the Lakers to get their
fingers off of Tylure. The best thing I read, I
think it was today the headline Lakers really intrigued by
JJ Reddick? How much truth is behind JJ Reddick possibly
becoming the head coach of the Lakers.

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
I think there's a lot of trist to it. I
think that you know, they view him as someone that
has a really bread maastful mind. He can relate to
not only obviously the current NBA players because they're the contemporaries,
but his podcast friends threatened Lebron James. But for what
it's worth that, you know, you always have to step
through information. But the peomint that I got is that

(01:05:48):
that they were trying to lean towards someone who had experience,
because usually what happens when you fire a coach, is
you instinctively look for the qualities that that head coach
didn't happen have sort coming I thought he had was
his lack of experience, not able to make adjustments. And
so while I do think that JJ Reddick has a

(01:06:09):
throng basketball acumen, I think it's just inevitable that there's
concerns that he's never been in the head coaching team before.
That's have to say that they won't hire him. But
I think there's a lot of boxes they have to
check moving forward about you know, would JJ Reddicks be
actually able to hold Lebron accountable? Would he have veteran

(01:06:31):
coaches around him to you know, help him through his
learning curves. I think with that the Lakers are keeping
open mind, and I think it is also trouble in that,
as far as I know, there haven't been any deep conversations.
Like before Frank Bogel's firing from Phoenix, the feeling was
that Mike Budenholzer could be a preferred candidate, and all

(01:06:52):
of a sudden, the Sun swoop in and hire him
right away. So yeah, I would think that the NBA
drives combine this weekend, bringing some more talks, but so
far it's mostly quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
My guess on Budenholtzer is Lebron said no, And I mean,
what's the story on Budenholzer. Obviously he was with Atlanta,
had some modest success. He obviously had a lot more success,
winning an NBA championship of the Bucks, and then all
of a sudden he was out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
He's not been coaching since.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Now he's going to get another opportunity with the Sons,
a team that's going through it's third coach in three years.
I mean, you hire Frank Vogel, you fire him after
one year, that's pretty nuts right there. But what is
the buzz on Budenholzer and why certain teams are just
not quite interested in a guy that has a pretty

(01:07:46):
successful resume.

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
Yeah, I think the boss a Bullenholzer. He's been a
respected NBA coach. I mean, he's from Greig Papovach's coaching three.
As you mentioned, He's had plenty of experience in Atlanta
and Milwaukee. I think that when you're looking at the
reason behind his firing in Milwaukee is that they felt
like same thing with darkod Ham, that he wasn't quite
up to stuff when it came to making in game adjustments,

(01:08:11):
and I think with that that would probably be one
of the main reasons why the Lakers had some apprehension
with him, because he's come from a similar cloth with
Dartin he's part of the coaching staff. But want to
be too dramatic of the difference, but I think that
he's a good head coach. And to your point about
Frank Bogel being let go with Phoenix, while he certainly

(01:08:34):
isn't blameless to get swept in the first round, with
that kind of talent, there's a lot of blame to
go around. But in fairness to Frank, that was the
defensive challenge. Rosters very top heavy and Frank's specialtyals is
on the defensive side of the floor. In Mike Budenholzer's case,
he's more seen as an offensive specialist. So maybe they
can tap in but more on that end of the floor.

(01:08:57):
But unless they make dramatic changes to their I don't
think that fundamentally they're going to change things. The problem
with Phoenix is that they really don't have an avenue
to make fundamental changes unless they decide, you know what,
let's trade Kevin Durant and or Devin Booker, and that
would be a sign that they're ready to go and
rebuild mode. And I don't think that's what Miss Mattishie

(01:09:18):
is thinking right now as the owner.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Yeah, Mark, So the semifinals a lot of fun games.
I feel that the Mavericks are slowly becoming the favorite
in the West. We saw the Nuggets. They bounced back
Game three, they totally bounced back, but we saw them
completely get crushed by the Timberwolves.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Now the Mavericks have stolen one from OKC.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
They win today, they seem to be jelling despite the
fact that Luka Doncic is injured and crippled and all
the good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Are they becoming the favorite?

Speaker 7 (01:09:52):
I think it's hard to say they're the favorite only
because I think you could make a really compelling case
for Dallas, Oklahoma City, Denver, Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
But I think to.

Speaker 7 (01:10:02):
Your larger point on say that Dallas is showing that
they could seriously beat Oklahoma City. They had the right stuff.
They have Luka Dodja, who obviously is a star. He
could have won MVP this year even with his injuries.
He has a way of playing through the pain and
still producing. Unlike last seasons, you have Kyrie Irving, who

(01:10:24):
has shown a lot of great chemistry with Lucas. They
know how to play off each other, and they also
have a great supporting cast PJ. Washington Derek Wiley the
second most notably, and I think that that is a
shark contrast the last season and prior seasons with Luca,
where it was just about him carrying the season, and
right now it's the complete team. Does that mean that

(01:10:46):
they're definitely going to beat Oklahoma City? Not necessarily shake
elj justs Aalen Sanders the MVP Canada. They have blue
door one infest defenders, one of the reasons why Luka
Doctas had a bore Game one. But Dallas has all
the righting ordiens to seriously challenge them and not predict
a seven game series that could really go either way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
So Mark, before the playoffs, we've talked to you and
you know, based on the regular season, we all seem
to agree the Celtics are the team to beat. They
have experience in the postseason. They'd been to the Eastern
Conference Finals for the last five years, they.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Just haven't broken through to win a championship.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Then they blow out the Calves in Game one at
Boston and they're like, Okay, T D.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Gardens should be a nice season. Then they lose by
twenty four at home.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
I mean how, I mean, how do you explain what
happened to the Celtics Game two against Miami now Game
two against the Cavaliers. Was there just a general disinterest
in showing up for every game? And if that is
the case, I mean, maybe they'll blitz creak the Calves
just like they did Miami after losing that home game
in game number two. But how do you explain a

(01:11:51):
team like the Celtics just not showing up in a
playoff game like they did Game two against the Calves.

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
Well state, only for the Celtics, this is who they are.
They played down in their competition. Ironically, in the playoffs.
Their home record has been worse in the past seasons
compared to the road, so they only plan at their
best when they feel challenged. Now, maybe you could argue
that the good side because they're so talented and when

(01:12:20):
they go deeper, that's when they play at their best.
But I think that they're running the risk of lean
into that formula for two reasons. We still don't know
when if Chris Haswerzingis is even going to return, and
number two, I don't think having that attitude is good
enough for whichever team they face in the West. I
still think they get to the NBA Finals. I think

(01:12:40):
that ironically, they don't have a pounceback game Bree. I
would be surprised if they even blowed Cleveland out on
their home four, because that's just what Boston does. But
I don't think from what I've seen that they're good
enough to beat any of those four contended West teams
that I talked about earlier. Oklahoma City, Dallas, dead in Minnesota,

(01:13:01):
and it's unfortunate for Monston because they've had the championship
window for a while. Jason Tata has been more efficient,
Jalen Browse been more efficient versus Porsingas has been a
game changer. Drew Holliday has been a great defender with
mitigating Marcus Smart's departure. But it got a play up
to your competition, it can't be completed, and I think
that inevitably in the NBA Finals, that concern, as well

(01:13:23):
as off Porzinga's lack of availability, is ultimately going to
catch up to them. Not so much that they might
lose a game like they have so far in the
verst the second round, but that they'd actually lose a
series in the NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Does the winner come out of the West? Mark?

Speaker 7 (01:13:40):
Oh, yeah, the winner's definitely coming out of the West.
And I thought, as you vote, may recall that it
was going to be Denver to lose, assuming good health.
But I've spent splipped that if I had a pick
out of those four games, I think it's Minnesota. I mean,
Anta Edwards has shown he is a real deal. While
I think that has been a stretch to start doing

(01:14:02):
the Michael Jordan comparisons, because Michael Jordan has a full
resume and and the Edwards just say it started to
see why that conversation has started. He has the qualities
gave the game that remind you of them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
That's not to say that he's empty right now, but
he has the qualities that you remind you of. The
Other thing is that they have a complete team part
of the town. I think it's the best uh A
big band that can also shoot in the NBA. And
I was talking to his trainer earlier this week. He
was saying that when he got injured last season. He
don't have the blessing in this guy is because it

(01:14:37):
allowed and the Edwards to grow into a bigger role.
And I think what that it was straight to everyone
plays as a team. There's no egos or so personality clashes.
And that also extends to Rudy goal Bear in their chemistry.
So any of those fourteenths have the case. But my
money is now in the Minnesota every Wolves.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Well, we got series that at least look competitive, at
least at this point. We'll see how they play out
as a countdown to the conference finals.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Mark great stuff is always. We'll talk to you next Saturday.

Speaker 7 (01:15:05):
Always are you there?

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
You go, Mark Medina, join us there. He is our
Fox Sports Radio NBA insider. All right, coming up on
the other side, I'm gonna tell you of the remaining teams,
which team definitely will not win the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
NBA Championship this year. Yeah, I'll tell you which one,
and I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvy, Montzi Belogios.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Here Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
We are live from the ti Iraq dot Com studios.
I want to thank everybody today. Martin of course came
in and just do it a great job before everybody
for his own show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Yeah, he's a hustler, baby.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Luca's on the board today. Ryan came in today.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Ryan, I know, but Ryan's too cool for school.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
I was dragged in by the way when I saw you,
and I was like, how did this happen? I was threatened?
Is that what happened here? No? No, I'm very happy
to be here on my day off. Well, Ryan, we
appreciate it. Some good tunes spun for sure. And then Patrick,
of course our steam producer. Patrick, just how much has

(01:16:11):
your star power grown with your association with this show?
It triples by the week, I would imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Love that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Yeah, so, great job by everybody on the show today.
All right, so I'm going to tell you right now
it's one team that is guaranteed not to win the
NBA Championship this year, and that team is the Clippers,
the Denver Nuggets. Why they're done?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Why? Okay, did you watch Game three?

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
They're done?

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Do you know some guy named Nicola Jokic.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Well, he's the reason why they will not win the championship.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Okay, Nicola Jokic was just named the NBA's most Valuable Player.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Shock didn't like that uh huh, that's bad news.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Why because the last eight NBA MVPs have not won
the championship.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Joki, remember has been the MVP three of the last
four years. The one year he wasn't was last year
and they won the championship. The last guy to win
the regular season MVP and then win the NBA Championship
with Steph Curry back in twenty fifteen. But let me
take it a step further. In the last twenty years

(01:17:25):
before this year, the regular season MVP only won the
championship three times. That was back to back years with
Lebron when he was in Miami in twenty twelve and
twenty thirteen and Stephan twenty fifteen with the Warriors. The
other seventeen NBA this is Kevin Garnett, Steve Nash twice,

(01:17:46):
Dirk Novitzky, Kobe Bryant, Lebron twice, Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant,
Steph Curry the second time, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Giannis twice,
Nicola Jokic twice. Mb last year not winners in terms
of a championship the Denver Nuggets, with Jokich winning the
MVP of the regular season out, they will not win

(01:18:08):
the NBA chick Oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Is this a curse winning the regular season MVP?

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Yeah, I should preface this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Is that why he didn't want to win it? He
was like, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
So we had the NCAA Basketball Tournament, right, And I
had that stat that in the forty previous tournament, only
five of the previous forty years had the team ranked
number one in the final eight people going into the
tournament gone on to win the championship.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
So I'm like, you cod has been eliminated.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Gone.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
And then I filled out my bracket and I put
in you Cod. And because of that, we had like
what thirty two brackets filled.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Out here I finished. I think it was fourth, yeah,
third or fourth yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Because they did you spread misinformation, Steve, people someday doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
You sneakily went and picked you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I just I'm just giving you a stat. You can
do with whatever you want to do with a stat.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
But in the last twenty years, twenty years, the regular
season MVP has only gone on to win the championship
three times again Lebron back to back years with the
Heat and then Steph's first MVP award with the Warriors.
The last eight.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Go home empty handed, So you can use it any
way you want. My job is to supply the information.
So I'm the stat guy and I'm giving you the
stat and you could double down on Denver to win, saying, well,
it seems like anytime you try to prognosticate Harman you
come up a loser.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
A'm not gonna deny.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
That, yest.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
You make an excellent point with these stats, and it
doesn't help that the West is right now so competive.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Okay, I'm asking you right now, who's coming out of
the West want the maps on?

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
You're going with the map, going with the maps.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
The maps were already so close without Kyrie Irving, with
just Luka Doncic Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
I we have to give him credit for what he
has done, taking.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
A backseat quote unquote to Luca Derek Lively also playing
really well.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
It's not just both of them, they are playing well,
all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Okay, So now you're because you just said, are you
with Mark Mendina on this as far as the west.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Will, the winds will?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Yes? And I'm taking the maps.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Okay, here we are here, we are on this May eleventh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Sure, yeah, taking the maps. Where are you taking? Don't
just tell me what are you taking?

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
All right, let me think about this for a second. Here,
fair two, all right. My pick to win the NBA Championship.

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