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On a new episode of the Bernie Fratto Show, Bernie opens the show recapping another wild night NBA playoff basketball! Denver sports radio host Darren "D-Mac" McKee joins the show to hit on the Nuggets big win over Minnesota in Game 3, the Broncos QB room and more! Bernie and the crew also talk about Austin Rivers' recent comments on NBA players being able to play in the NFL, and then entertain all sorts of hypotheticals for who the next Netflix roast following Tom Brady's could be! Plus, YOUR thoughts on the Midnight Hour!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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(00:30):
We're going to get to all of it. A couple
of very very interesting NBA playoff games tonight, and I
kind of want to focus on the later one first
because it turns out you still got to knock out
the champs. And if you heard me last night hosting

(00:50):
Ben Maller, I talked I was singing the praises of
the Minnesota Timberwolves as well, we should for what they've done. However,
they've got a long way to go. And later in
the show, I will share with you why I'm secretly
hoping that the Minnesota Faithful breakthrough after thirty three years
of heartbreak. I know you're not really supposed to have

(01:11):
rooting interests, but hell, I even met the late great
Johnny most once. You remember him, the gravelly voiced play
by a play guy for the Boston Celtics. And I
asked him, I said, Johnny, how do you feel about
when people accuse you of being a homer? He goes,
I can't bear in the business this long and not
develop affections. It's true, you develop rooting interests. I've traveled

(01:35):
to Minnesota a lot. It's a great place. By catchphrase
when I first signed down seven years ago at Fox
was it's going to be as they say, and Bill
Musselman Minnesota, it's going to be lit. So the fact
of the matter is, yeah, it canna be cool, right,
but you still got to knock out the champ. Well,
it all comes down to perspective. There's a story of

(01:57):
two brothers. One is worth a million dollars, the other's
worth fifty grand. That's their net worth. The million dollar
brother has a terrible day in the stock market, loses
one hundred grand, his networth still nine hundred. The younger brother,
whose networth is fifty grand, has a great day in
the stock market, makes ten grand. His networth is sixty.
The networth guy with nine hundred grand goes to bed miserable,

(02:19):
he's upset. The net Worth guy with sixty grand goes
to Bede static, he's happy, sixty grand, ecstatic, ninety grand miserable.
It still comes down the perspective. The Minnesota Timberwolves still
have a two to one lead in the series, and
they are two and a half point favorites Sunday night.

(02:40):
But and here comes the big butt pee weee. Denver
hasn't forgotten how to take care of business now. Legendary
Paul Allen went on some radio stations today, Remember him,
why do you pounder? Passing? Guy's a legend. Maybe not
so sharp when it comes to Betty though. Believe there
was really no way that Denver could win tonight. What's

(03:01):
going to change? Well, I'll tell you what changed. Denver
drew them into a half court game. And when you
watch the Nuggets, this was sort of I've kind of
been waiting for the Nuggets to play this game, to
play the game they played tonight. Coming up in about
fifteen minutes, we'll be joined by Darren McKee from a

(03:23):
ninety two to five in Denver Altitude Sports Radio, one
of our Fox affiliates. Really looking forward to talking to
Darren he'll set the reques strate on the perspective. But
when you look at how Denver got their championship, that
showed up Friday night, and by the way, it was
a very ugly nut of shooting for the Timberwolves. They

(03:44):
were just thirty one to seventy one for the floor.
But you know, give Denver credit because they helped create that.
And now here's how. And by the way, for those
who were writing the epitaph of Jamal Murray, not so fast.
I know he threw that heat pack. Maybe he could
have used it to massage his calf. Turned out he
didn't need it. I realized he was nine to thirty two,

(04:05):
just one of fifteen and both first has in Game
one and two. Not feasible for a Nuggets team when
you're trying to loosen up that Minnesota defense, that perimeter
defense that Minnesota has is very unrelenting. But Murray gets
off the bus and he was that Jamal Murray, and
he led to all kinds of leverage possessions that Denver

(04:25):
has shown his to be in the trademark. The last
couple of years, Minnesota scrambled around. They never really got
settled in Jamal Murray twenty four points, and they were key.
He was a step He was a step quicker tonight.
He was very decisive Minnesota's perimeter defenders. I know they're
kind of like they travel in packs, right, but the

(04:48):
twoth of the matter is if you hesitate, they pounce.
Murray didn't hesitate. Murray was a step ahead all night.
And I will tell you, NIKOLEA. Jokic is the but
in many ways, when Denver looks, when Denver wins, looked
to Jamal Murray, because that, for me is many times

(05:11):
the most indicative factor. When Murray didn't shoot well against
the Lakers, that's why they were trailing so much. But
that somewhat got overshadowed because he had two game winners.
Murray was frankly not very good, you could even say
terrible the first two games of this series. But Game
three was the playoff Jamal Murray that we know. Now,

(05:37):
trailing two to one, Denver has a chance to eaven
this thing up. Heading back to Denver, it's gonna get real. Secondly, Joker, well,
he decided he would be in charge at least when
it mattered. Yes, he just had sixteen points on thirteen
shots in Game two and you would think, well, maybe

(05:57):
he'll come out over aggressive to try to make up
and validate his third MVP in four seasons. You know,
if you've watched enough of Jokic, though he's measured, he's
a sharp guy. He's a smart player. In addition to
being virtually unstoppable, he can control a game, and only
a way he can because in addition to be an
incredible scorer, a prolific scorer that can create his own

(06:19):
shot anywhere anytime, he can also quarterback and run the
offense from the high post. He found cutters, he found shooters,
and when he needed to, he scored it. For the
most part, Minnesota scrambled. They weren't that swarming defense because
Jokic is such a prolific passer. He had Minnesota in

(06:40):
a Chinese fire drill and they knew it. And that's
why they won by the margin they won. And when
Denver gets that offense going in the half court, it's poetic.
And I gotta tell you watching Nikola Jokic tonight, it
was a masterclass and just watching how he spaces an
offense and how it's almost like poetry in motion and
the parts are moving and everybody's in sync. It's that

(07:03):
connectivity that we saw Denver have winning the championship last
year that we haven't seen this year, frankly, not in
any stretch. They played with their food against the Lakers,
and you saw what they did the first two games
against the Timberwolves. Now, no, what did Jokich to tonight?
Oh nothing? Twenty four points, fourteen rebounds, dinassists, three blocks.

(07:25):
No one else in history gets these stat lines consistently
like Nikola Jokic did. The third part of the equation.
You know, to beat Minnesota, you have to at least well,
maybe you can't stop Anthony Edwards, but you can contain him.
The first two games of the series, Anthony Edwards went

(07:46):
for seventy points Friday Night Denver, Hello the nineteen In fact,
Anthony Edwards only got fifteen shots off. Now, Minnesota is
a phenomenal defensive team, nobody can argue with that, but
they're not a prolific offensive team. As a matter of fact.
In general, they can struggle to score in periods. So
when Anthony Edwards isn't cooking, they're really grinding, because Minnesota

(08:11):
sort has to grind to get their points anyway. That's
overshadowed by the prolific offensive talent that Anthony Edwards is. However,
you may go into a game plan saying, well, we'll
hold Anthony Edwards down. It's one thing to say it,
it's another thing you do it. Because it's not just
about how you defend him. It starts when you're on offense.
Because you want to value every possession, so you limit

(08:34):
Minnesota's possessions. That means getting off quality shots. That means
protecting the ball, not turning it over. That keeps Anthony
Edwards out of the open floor. That forces him in
the Wolves to get up create their offense in the
half court. That's not their strength. If this becomes a
half court series, the Timberwolves will not out execute Denver

(08:57):
in a half court affair period. Denver committed just eleven
turnovers on Friday. They were focused, They played clean basketball.
This was a really competitive game, even though Denver blew
them out. It was more competitive than you realize. Denver
was deliberate, they were systematic, and when Jokich has the
ball in his hands, oh my goodness, what a clinic.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I had many conversations with Isaiah Thomas. He once told
me that he believed that point guard was the most
important position in all the sports because one man with
the ball in his hands can dictate the movements of
nine other players. Now give it up to Anthony Edwards.
He's been incredible in this playoff run. But did you
really think he was just going to go through Phoenix
and Kevin Durant and Devin Booker and just keep going

(09:40):
right through Nikola Jokic and the defending champs like a
knife through butter without any resistance. That really wasn't realistic.
So now Denver's drawn blood. It's Minnesota's first loss in
the playoffs. And for those who question, how would Denver
handle prosperity as the defending champs? And that was a
question tonight. Well, I'm really looking forward to Sunday. It's

(10:03):
going to be a massive Game four as these NBA
playoffs are really starting to take shape. Coming up, we're
going to bring in a gentleman who is in the
belly of the beast. Darren McKee is a very popular
sports show in Denver, ninety two to five Altitude Sports,
one of our Fox affiliates. Looking forward to talking to

(10:24):
him about what the mood is around Denver, Nation, as
it were. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to your line from
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Speaker 2 (11:22):
All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports
Radio come to you live from the tyrac dot com
studios Here in a Las Vegas take up to two
am Pacific, five am Eastern. Just getting Started's welcome in
a gentlemen. You hear him on Altitude Sports Radio ninety
two to five and Denver every day. I've really been
looking forward to having this gentleman say hello to Darren McKee. Darren,

(11:44):
thanks for chiving in tonight, Bernie.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
I'm on the corner of Lincoln and sixth Avenue in
downtown Denver. Was the celevatory moon is rowing on because
we get to look at bo Nix and rookie minnichipswow.

Speaker 9 (11:58):
No no, no, no no Ah.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well played, well, well played. Yeah, we'll get to that
quarterback room in a minute, but masterful performance by the
Denver Nuggets tonight. But even before I get to that,
I want to get rid of one bit of business
because you're there in the Belly of the Beast, Nicola
jokicch When's is third MVP in four seasons, well deserving,

(12:20):
and the interview with Shaquille O'Neil was as clunky as
it can get, and I would really like to get
your take because you are there, as I said, in
the Belly of the Beast. Well, I was.

Speaker 8 (12:29):
Literally in the building because the press conference with the
Colo was shortly after that interview, so we're all waiting that,
so we're all sitting there like all the local media
that was ready to really get into an introspective mood
with the Cola, because that's what it's all about. It's

(12:51):
not about the next game. It's about your life, your career.
It's a rare opportunity to talk to the best player
in the world at a particular about a wider perspective,
and Shaquille O'Neill hammered him with, I don't think you
should have won. How about the Wolves?

Speaker 10 (13:08):
I mean it was one of the most fun.

Speaker 11 (13:11):
There you go, my brother, No, no, that's good.

Speaker 8 (13:14):
He's cursing on the sideline. I told you I was outside,
Bernie right, well, it was.

Speaker 10 (13:19):
It was.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
It was ridiculous.

Speaker 12 (13:21):
It was now.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
I like, Shaquille, have an opinion, cool, have a sense
of the moment, be a good teammates Ernie Kenny and Charles.
I mean, what are you doing, Shack, Why are you
railing the train on an otherwise fantastic show. I don't
get it. It was terrible, and I know for a fact,

(13:44):
I don't think it Bernie. I know for a fact
it was a big thread of conversation behind the scenes
with the organization, the players and the coaches and everybody
inside the Nuggets know it for a fact.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
So listen, I've been doing this a long time, Darren.
When I saw that, you know, even though Shaq tried
to be deferential and tried to be respectful, the whole
damn thing went over like a fart in church and
a ruined the moment. So let's just leave that there
and celebrate. So let's get to what happened Friday. And
I want to start with Nikola Jokich. And if you
watched him tonight, truly isoed on him. This is a

(14:21):
guy that can control a game in a way only
he can. He can quarterback from the high post. He
found the cutters, he found the shooters, he created his
own shot, and he caused a Minnesota defense to frankly scramble.
Talk about Nikola Jokich and what it's like to see
this guy in a nightly.

Speaker 8 (14:37):
Basis, it's it's I don't know if people can understand
that Nicola doesn't feel pressure like the normal athlete does.
So at the press conference that made much more sense
than the ridiculous of Shaquille O'Neal. He was asked about
how long you envision yourself playing Well, it's not going
to be like the big appendage, like Shaq was with
the Celtics and the Cavaliers. He said, I'm only going

(15:00):
to play where I can play at the top level.
I'm not going to take a place away from a
young upcoming player. That means Bernie that his expectation for
himself is at the highest level. And for this, it's
such a joke to anybody who really knows the colon
has been around him, to think he doesn't thrive in
competition and doesn't love basketball, it's false. I reject it completely.

(15:24):
You don't know what you're talking about. And just because
he doesn't show some sort of bizarre over the moon
emotions about it does not mean he's as determined as
anybody else. In fact, I would make the argument he's
a better and more competitive athlete than anybody else because
he has a sense of balance of what matters and

(15:45):
what doesn't, so he doesn't get too high, he doesn't
get too low. And some people think that as weakness,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
It is a.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
Killer mentality Bernie, and it's a level that most human
beings cannot comprehend. We know it here because we know him.
Others believes the Falter Crew. I don't know if they
even understand what really makes this guys pick and they should,
it's embarrassing that they don't.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Darren, I agree with all that the man is an assassin.
It's just that he's not into self indulgence, so I
think that's held against him. Also tonight, it appears obviously
that the rumors of Jamal Murray's demise were greatly exaggerated.
And love the way he took the game to the Timberwolves.
Talk about him on a goal forward basis, now's his calf.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
He's another killer, he's an I mean, you know, he's
never been an All Star. And all right, think about
this for a second, Bernie, Shaquille O'Neill played with Tracy
McGrady going the Hall of Fame, Dwayne Wade Hall of Famer,
and of course Kobe Bryant, right, I mean three of
the great Guards Championships. Bernie, do you realize that Cool
Jokis has never played with an All Star?

Speaker 11 (16:55):
Again?

Speaker 8 (16:56):
Should I say that again? KOs has never in his
years as a Nugget, played with an All Star. Jamal
Murray's never been an All Star. He should be, he
should be, but he hasn't been. And he's another guy,
whose confidence level is sky high, who doesn't give up
on himself, doesn't think less of himself under any circumstance whatsoever.

(17:19):
He is injured, though, Bernie, his cat is injured. Okay,
just know that. And he's just got to figure out
a different way to play. But he's not going to play.
He's going to play, but he has to figure out
a different way. And that's what you saw tonight.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I thought the Nuggets were able to draw Minnesota into
a half court game because of the way they protected
the ball on offense, got quality shots, didn't turn the
ball over. If they can do that, I feel like
the Timberwolves can be in trouble. But here's the question
I wanted to ask you before they tipped off tonight.
They're the defending champs. I really had them penciling to
go back to the finals. But when I saw them

(17:55):
play with their food against the Lakers, I started to wonder,
how are they handling prosperity in Denver? Can you answer that?
How are they handling prosperity in the Nuggets sell world?

Speaker 13 (18:05):
There?

Speaker 8 (18:06):
They sit the Lakers lightly. I don't know how else
to put it. It shouldn't have It was a slip.
It drives Michael Malone crazy. And they still one. They
trailed for sixty nine percent of the games and still one.
They trailed at halftime of every game. They still one.
They really just didn't take the Lakers all that seriously
because the Lakers really aren't a good team, so they

(18:28):
got away with it. Minnesota is a good team, a
really good team, really really really good team. It bit them,
It did bit them, fight them until tonight when the
whole world decided the Nuggets were done. And Michael Malone
after the game said he debated whether or not to
show his team a two minute reel of all the

(18:49):
national pundits banging on the Nuggets. However, he showed that
reel those highlights, low lights whatever to DeAndre Jordan, who
was a de facto player on this team, and DeAndre
Jordans said, hell yeah, play that for the team. So
they don't normally use the outside noise, Bernie, on this one,

(19:10):
they did. They did because it was so ridiculous and overwhelming.
And I'm telling you, these guys are like Heisenberg and
breaking bad.

Speaker 14 (19:19):
They are the danger.

Speaker 8 (19:21):
They are the one that knocks.

Speaker 12 (19:23):
Don't doubt them.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
So last question, Regarding the Nuggets, it feels, even though
they're down two to one of the series, that they've
got the possession ere of. Give me a reason, though,
give me a vulnerability if there is one that you
believe the Timberwolves could exploit and thus advance.

Speaker 8 (19:45):
The Nuggets bus shows up late or like the Lakers
in Game four, no joke, the Nuggets had their shoes
taken off the first bus and had to warm up
and flip flops and flies. I'm not joking about that, Bernie.
Look up that story.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I no, I know the whole story. No, in my
coach Malone didn't use it as an excuse, but you
are right, it happened.

Speaker 8 (20:03):
Right like something like that if the Nuggets truly played
Douggets basketball, and what Nuggets basketball is, Bernie, is an
adaptability to the circumstance. They can win in a wild
variety of ways, and there they are the most physical
team in the Western Conference. They just didn't play like
that in Game two. Game one, Bernie wasn't was.

Speaker 9 (20:27):
A close game.

Speaker 8 (20:29):
Game one could have done literally even wait, the Lakers
would have claimed that as a win, because that's what
the Lakers do, lose close and then claim it as
a win.

Speaker 14 (20:37):
So that's.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
So, But Nuggets are actually used to like winning games.
The Lakers lose a close game and say, hey, look
what we did. That's not that's not the Nuggets.

Speaker 14 (20:52):
Okay, so.

Speaker 8 (20:54):
Good luck, Hey, good luck. Well you woke up a
sleeping a Serbian giant and his pals, so best of luck,
best the luck wills. Because we saw what it feels
like to have the spotlight. You got Anthony Edwards, who
I do respect. I do respect Anthony Edwards, I do,
But the dude is twenty two and he's been being

(21:15):
asked by Malika Andrews on ESPN about being Michael Shortan. Okay,
all right, slow your role everybody, and get a grip
about what the reality is. And if you think the
numbers are just some sort of weird one off champion,
we'll see you on Sunday and see what's up. And
I know I sound like the ultimate homer here, but

(21:35):
I'm not gonna lie. I take offence for people not
digging deeper into who this team is. Who has a
three time MVP, isn't and is a champion Bernie. It's offensive, frankly,
it should be offensive to anybody who truly cares about basketball.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, and I gotta sell you, Darren if you want,
I don't care if you're Homer. You may have heard
my open. I met the late great Johnny Most once
in Boston, and I said, how do you feel about
being called a Homer? He goes, you can't do this
this long and not develop affections. So look, man, you're
into your team real quickly. Uh, we got to do
this again, by the way, before too long. Let's flip

(22:13):
quickly to the Denver Broncos and there before you get.

Speaker 8 (22:16):
There, can I just say one thing, one thing.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Really, please, please Andrew to go to Chew.

Speaker 11 (22:22):
He should be putting prison. Bobby, Wow, oh my god,
loud just descry.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, how was it Detroit and Burns Burn?

Speaker 8 (22:42):
Dude, I grew up. I grew up in Boston, North
Shore up and in Switch and listen as I listened
to Johnny Most for every Celtic's game growing up, and
I seriously thought the Philadelphia seventies sisters should you should.

Speaker 13 (22:54):
All be in the patty wagon after games?

Speaker 9 (22:56):
At least says according to Johnny.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
So I love that, I love love it it. We'll
have to revisit that last thing. For me this story
in Denver Visa VI. The football team, the quarterback room
was one thing Sean Payton got a mulligan last year.
Wasn't a good look. How patient will the Denver faithful
be after what's been eight years now, after not getting
to the playoffs. What's the mood going to be like

(23:19):
if they come out of the gate one and four?

Speaker 8 (23:22):
Very patient because ownership is finally a stability here and
it hasn't been for the past decades. You had a
situation where sadly, Pat Bullen was slipping away unfortunately, very sadly,
and there was a large disagreement between Joe Ellis, who
was running the team, and specifically Beth Bullen, one of
seven actually eight because it was a love child Bolan children,

(23:45):
but it was the seven children that were in battles
with Joe Ellis about control of the team and Bernie
that had a boy I can tell you about the
love child too, is fun. But they that led to
an unbelievable amount of miscommunication, with John Elway proving that
he really wasn't as great of a quarterback as he was,

(24:06):
as much of a legend in Colorado that he was.
He really wasn't that great of a GM, especially after.

Speaker 15 (24:12):
Payton then left.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
And the fact of the matter is instability and ownership.
Bernie led to all the other problems with the Bronxos,
every single one of them. With Greg Penners. You realize
the Denver Broncos have the wealthiest of all the owners
by a mile, and he didn't know that. Look it up.
The wealth of the Walton Penner groups is somewhere north

(24:35):
of oh yeah, forty five billion dollars. So the stability
of ownership and Greg Penner is hands on. He ran
Walmart for years and years and years, and him and
his wife Kerry are hands on. They were in the
draft room for every single pick found one through seven.
They are in it, in it and because of stabilitied ownership,

(24:58):
you know where the buck stops. Payton is more or
less Sean Payton's assistant, Okay, but there is stability and
decision making and their love of bone Nicks is not contrived.
They had a private workout with him the day after
his pro day private workout, and at that moment they
knew it was him the reason why they got Zach

(25:20):
Wilson when they did. If they weren't sure if they
were going to get bone Nick and the trade for
Zach Wilson actually took forever. He should have been traded
to the Broncos, like a month ahead of time. It
just looked weird because it took a long time for
it to come through. The plans aren't with Zach Wilson.
He was a break glass in case emergency.

Speaker 12 (25:37):
If they didn't get bone Nicks.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
They got the guy they wanted. And I think Broncos
fans with a reasonable frame of mind understand this is
the four or five six win season because they have
one hundred million in salary caps face next year. In
twenty twenty five, they have a five win season, they'll
have a top six picks and a second round pick
for the first time in three years. So if you're
a smart bron fan, you will understand what's going on.

(26:03):
And finally, finally, finally, finally, you have a quality quarterback
to build around and a coach who knows what he's
doing with supportive of very stable and wealthy ownership group.
It's not gonna be great in twenty twenty four, Bernie,
but look out down.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
The road, my man. You need to frame that narrative
hanging on the wall next to the louver, right in
the bone release way.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
Everybody who gives the Broncos a trap draft grade are
just people who are wrong about Bonnicks in the first
place and just say oh d for a grade because
I didn't like bo Nick, Well, pilot, sand, I mean,
who cares what you thought. The most important thing, Bernie
is ownership, coach, quarterback. That's it. Are we all on
the same page, And if the GM can bring us

(26:47):
a cup of coffee, so be it. And the Broncos
are in that spot. But the thing about instant satisfaction
right away ain't gonna happen. But I'd rather be in
the Bronco spot than ninety percent of other NFL teams
that don't know what they're doing and are gonna make
a change at a moment's notice. That's not gonna be
the Broncos. And the reason why, And I don't know

(27:07):
if you know this, but Greg Penner, the owner of
the Broncos, is related to Stan Kunky, the owner of
the Avalanche and the Nuggets. And we know what stability
and ownership looks like because we have parades in late
June here, Bernie, we have parades in Denver, Colorado.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, look it all starts at the top. I'm very
familiar with Greg Penner. He was a badass at Goldman,
Sachs and many other modalities before you even got to
Walmart and the Denver Broncos. This has been outstanding. We're
gonna have you on again. Enjoy your evening. Stay safe
out there, my man. Then take no prisoners.

Speaker 12 (27:40):
Brother, what choice do we have?

Speaker 8 (27:43):
Bonnicks rookie Bonnicks, rookie rookie Minicheff tomorrow, brother, I cannoy.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Ladies and gentlemen. That is, those are the comedic stylings
induced tones of Darren McKee ninety two point five FM,
Denver's Sports Altitude or check that Altitude Sports Radio, one
of our Fox affiliates. We're gonna believe me, We're gonna
have him on again. That was simply outstanding. Coming up,
I want to talk about Nicola Jokic's unsettled legacy, even

(28:12):
though he's won three MVPs, and I promised later in
the show, I can't lie. I think Minnesota fans deserve
a break from the sports guys after thirty three years.
I'll lay out the litany, but first let's go to
our guy, and I think congratulations are in order, my man,
Kevin figures.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Oh, thank you, Bernie.

Speaker 16 (28:29):
Much appreciated, miss you guys the last couple of weeks,
but glad to be back. And yes, all is well
at the homestead with the new baby. So I appreciate
the well wishes and love from you.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Outstanding, Thank you, thank you. You were talking about Nikola Jokic s.

Speaker 16 (28:40):
There's a one of two playoff games in the NBA
on Friday night. One did feature Dinver beating Minnesota one
seventeen to ninety. Nicola joki is just missing a triple
double with twenty four points, fourteen rebounds and nine assists.
Nuggets healthy t Wolves to just forty three percent shooting
on the night, and now the series lead from Minnesota
is two games to one. Andrew Nimhart had a deep
three pointer with sixteen seconds remaining to help give Indiana

(29:02):
a one eleven to one oh six victory over the
shorthanded Knicks, who are without og Ananobi. In the NHL,
Edmonton defeated Vancouver in overtime, four to three, tying their
second round series at a game apiece. The Panthers dominated
the Bruins six to two, taking a two to one
series lead. There on the Diamond, the Padres got a
walk off RBI single from Luis a Rise to defeat
the Dodgers two to one. Dylan Moore had three hits

(29:25):
in five RBI for Seattle. They hammered Oakland eight to one.
Ranger Swarez improved to a major league best seven to
oh as a Phillies defeat at Miami eight to two.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
All right, back to Bernie Freddo.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
All right, buddy, very good, get any sleep.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
Very little, but it's quite right. I want to hear
still running on adrenaline at this point. It's all good,
all right, man.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
We would fix you up some tourtal or something. I'll
take it, all right, Kevin, Welcome back. Nikoley Okic. Obviously,
his greatness is it's undeniable in my view. But yet
his legacy, it's just it seems to be unsettled for
some people. And you know, even though he's not won

(30:05):
three MVPs in four years, and part of that maybe
is the NBA always announced it it's MVP award. It's
such a strange time, not right after the regular season,
but you know, that's when the playoffs are still theoretical
and no one's been heartbroken yet. You don't wait till
after the championship because the playoffs are simply too long
for that to happen. That's gonna take us into mid June.

(30:28):
So that means the award usually goes to a recipient
who's still trying to win a ring. Okay, and it's
an uncomfortable scenario sometimes, and then you have the situation
with Shaquille O'Neal and then they go out and lose
their first two games to Denver Nuggets, so it felt awkward.

(30:48):
But the facts as facts. And by the way, there
is an NBA MVP cursor. Remember Denver won it last year,
but Nikola Jokic did not win the MVP last year.
That was Jolden Beiid. His team lost to the second
round both years prior to twenty one to twenty two.
When Jokic won the MVP, they lost to the second round.
And then Giannis won it four years ago and his

(31:09):
team lost in the Eastern Conference finals. But I digress. Look,
this is Jokich's third MVP in four seasons. That's incredible
for a guy who's sort of unassuming and even key
Like you heard Darren mcke say he likes to ride horses.
Seems like he likes that as much as basketball. But
he's only the ninth player in MVP history to win

(31:32):
three MVPs, and he's only twenty nine years old. If
he retired right now, according to John Hollider, he'd be
one of the top thirty players of all time. Who
could really argue with that? And yet after one season,
Jokic and the Nuggets and they look unstoppable. Then the
Timberwolves eviscerat him in game one. In game two and
here come the ankle biters. Right, The Jokers shot poorly,

(31:53):
he turned the ball over too much, he faded when
his team needed him most. He only took thirteen shots
in game two. This is what we do in is
we elevate people to their highest plateau, only to tear
them down when they get to the mountain, top of
the mountain. So now, if Denver doesn't repeat, there are
going to be people that say this award is going

(32:14):
to lose luster. Not fair, it shouldn't happen, but fans
will do it anyway. Remember Dirk Novitsky won the MVP
back in two thousand and seven, just like Nikola Jokic
very well deserved. But then the Mavericks went out and
laid an egg and they lost to the Golden State Warriors.

(32:36):
They had no business beating them in the first round
of the playoffs, and I think it really stained Dirknovichki unfairly. Anyway,
the good news is, I don't really think Nikola Jokic
cares about the perception that some of these people you know,
impose upon him. They do their talking on the floor,

(32:57):
and I got to tell you after Saturday, after Friday night, Wow, Wow,
Denver did a lot of talking. I cannot wait for
Game four coming up in twenty minutes from where I sit.
It will be midnight, the midnight hour here in Las Vegas.
Really looking forward to the folks to win in because
a couple of topics have just had serious legs all

(33:18):
week and I want to hear what people have to say,
so we'll dive into that coming up. I'll set the
whole thing coming up. Here's a little tease, might have
something to do with what would happen if you just
dropped an NBA player into an NFL game, or hell,
you could just you pie thirty up you could do it. Yeah, sure,
I did not like hearing that, and you're going to

(33:38):
hear a pretty vehement response from me. And oh, by
the way, the Tom Brady roast was very successful, I
think because it's being talked about. Some people loved it,
some people hated it. There have been very skating pieces
in the I believe the New York Post and the
Washington Post calling it misogynistic and a bunch of names,

(34:00):
and well, you know, look, but you had to care
enough to write it. The opposite of love is not
hated it some indifference. I'm ready for another roast, man,
I'll tell you right now. I want part two of
Then we'll get into this in a minute, Part two
of the Midnight Hour. Again from where I sit, it's
gonna be midnight here in Vegas in eighteen minutes, hence
the Midnight Hour. We'll take your calls eight seven seven

(34:22):
nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine. Let me just
say this about that, I'm writing for another roast. But
what I'd like to know from you folks. You can
tell me if you liked it or not. Who would
you like to see roasted next? Who would you pay
to see roasted? Next, and I'll give you my answer,
and I guarantee you not one person's mentioned his name.
But the minute I go, you go, oh yeah, oh yeah,

(34:45):
that might be pretty delicious, that might be pretty cool. Tonight,
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Speaker 2 (35:27):
All right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio,
coming to you live from the Tiret dot com studios
here and Las Vegas. Just getting started to take you
up to two am Pacific, five am Eastern, an eleven
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but work with me. The midnight hour is what it

(35:51):
will be because it'll be twelve minute here in Las
Vegas and every Friday night in the Bernie Fraddle Show,
we'll take your calls eight seven, seven, nine, and nine
on Fox seven nine, nine sixty six three six ' nine,
so you can weigh in on the subject matter tonight
we have two of them. It all started the other
day when JJ Watt and Austin Rivers started to spar

(36:12):
whether NBA players could play in the NFL, because Austin
Rivers said, quote, I could take thirty players right now
in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. Okay
that got me that that set me off. Sorry, and
I said this on Twitter. That is asinine. NBA is
a contact sport. The NFL is a high speed collision sport. Now,

(36:35):
I get they're running jump athleticism. I get the hand
eye coordination, but just drop an NBA player into one
full contact scrimmage. Try it. You tell me if they
show up the next day. The NFL game is a
game of attrition for six full months. So look, I
ever played football bas high scoll. I'm going to tell

(36:56):
you right now, football is pain. It is collisions. You
better be hitting somebody, every player. When you show up
the film on Monday, you better duck because you'll be
called out. It's not a spectator sport. It's not a
I'm not saying no one can do it, but just
sort of that blanket statement completely set me off because

(37:17):
it's not about whether or not you have the athleticism
or the ability, or the skill set or even the
body type. You know, Mike Tyson said it best. Everybody's
got a plan that they get hit. You don't know
what it's like to get even in the hitting and
high school games is pretty good. Then up that speed
double in college and up that speed four times from

(37:38):
there where you got a bunch of trained assassins coming
at you with bad intentions. That's Cuba Gooding Junior. When
he filmed the movie. Jerry Maguire, he was a good
athlete in high school. He scrimmaged with the Arizona Cardinals
and they went, you know, not even the ten percent speed,
and he goes, I can't even imagine what it'd have
been like if I'd have gone over the middle and
gotten hit for real. Know some people say, well, nobody

(38:01):
likes to go over getting hit the middle for real.
It's not whether you like it or not. It's whether
you can get up after you've been hit and again
and again and again. Who's about one hundred and twenty
traffic accidents in every NFL game? Multiply that time seventeen
games and then the playoffs. And you tell me football
is a game of attrition. Ain't no way, no how
otherwise you have played football, and maybe some of them

(38:23):
are really good high school football players and they want
to I don't know, but just to make an asidine
statement like that, and then you know something about But
thirty NBA players could play in the NFL, but thirty
NFL players couldn't play in the NBA. Who cares? That
has nothing to do with anything. And he got pushed back.
Austin Rivers got pushed back for Pat McAfee. Then he
got pushed back from JG. Watt and they kind of

(38:45):
straightened it out, and Kyle Long and a bunch of
guys chimed him rightfully. So it's stupid now, you may
be listen, I've said it a thousand times. The most
boring conversations where everybody agrees. I want to hear what
you've got to say. React to the statement as it stands.
Not if they had two years to train, not if
they you know you, not a bunch of ifs and butts.

(39:06):
If they were candy, and that's what we all have a
merry Christmas. The truth of the matter is, every time
I've heard somebody try to prosecute this argument on the radio,
they leave out the three most keywords. High speed collisions.
That's the essence of football. Just the pads alone. You hurt.
It's pain that helmet. You get like a bruise on
your forehead, then go away for four months. You know,

(39:27):
you got the straps underneath your shoulder pads that rub
against it, under your armpits and it kind of goes wrong.
It never really goes away. And the knee pads never
seem to fit right. Of course, they don't even wear
those anymore. We used to wear this damn thing called
a girdle. Never fit right. Brutal, just brutal, all right,
you know where I'm going with that. The Tom Brady roast.
Some people loved it, some people hate it. I'm telling you,

(39:48):
it was all over the place. Forget it. You can
tell me whether you liked it or not. That's fine.
I'm ready for another one. I'm ready for another one.
And who would you like to see roasted? Who would
you pay? So say you put it on pay per view.
It's gonna cost you twenty bucks. You know who I
want to see? Not Tiger Woods, I'll take it. Michael Jordan. Fine,
all the usual suspects want to hear it? Bill Belichick,

(40:10):
He's right there, right in front of you. Tell me
you would love to see Bill Belichick roasted after thirty years,
after fifty years in the NFL, would that be a
beauty or not? So? NBA players playing in the NFL?
Who would you like to see roasted? Who would you
pay to sea roasted? We want to hear from you?
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way tire buying should be yep? Can NBA players play
in the NFL? I say you already heard me explain? Why?
Who do I want to see roasted? Next? Bill Belichick?

(41:12):
I'd pay to see. By the way, I got a
good tweet from a gentleman. He said I'd like to
see Phil Mickelson. His name is Tim Clancy. That's a
damn good one. You know why? From where I sit
in Vegas, it's midnight. That means one thing. It's the
midnight hour. That's right, baby, we waste no time eight
seven seven nine nine six six three six nine eight

(41:34):
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Let's get to it.
Gilberto and San Diego my man lead us off tonight
on the Cerulean Blue Sky Saturday morning. If you had
my friend, you too, You're.

Speaker 17 (41:47):
Toy excellenta Ernie, you're having a great show us always.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Thank you. What do you got for us tonight? Lberto?

Speaker 17 (41:54):
Well, I think Ustin Rivers is right. There's a there's
at least thirty NBA players that can in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Okay, would they be able to take the physical punishment
game in game out? Go ahead, you got the floor,
my man.

Speaker 17 (42:09):
No, they can be a punter or a kicker.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
This come give it up to my man, yo. Berto,
come up with something there. Yeah, I was thinking. I
was thinking when he could play, he could be a
kicker and can do everything else.

Speaker 17 (42:23):
Go ahead, there you go, and another one for the roast.

Speaker 14 (42:29):
You know.

Speaker 17 (42:29):
I like the Patriots and benishit would be great. Although
he wasn't the Son Brady one, but the person that
I would like to see the most get roasted is
Jerry Jones.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
So that would be a be all one guy, says
Phil Micholson. I say, Jerry, I say Bill, Bill Check,
you said Jerry Jones. I love it, Gilbert. What anything
else we got tonight?

Speaker 17 (42:50):
So I just want to wish you a great show, okay,
and keep going, strangling, keep going because I really love
it every weekend.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
All right. We appreciate you having Gilbert to enjoy your weekend.
Bill in Dallas. You are up next, my friend. What
are your thoughts in the matter.

Speaker 18 (43:07):
Bernie, You're the man, you know. I drive home work
nights and drive home and hear you late on the weekends,
and thank you so much for all you do.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
You're the one. Well, thanks Bill for checking in very
kind words. And I don't take him lately. What do
you got for us? Listen?

Speaker 18 (43:24):
I like the the Bilichick, I like you know, the
young man just talked about Jerry Jones. I want to
see me on Don Sanders. Oh, beauty freaking knee please

(43:44):
just And I love Dion, yeah, miss, but I want
to see him brought to his knees just for ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Oh man, these are so good. I love Dion as well.
And you never know how someone's going to react, right,
and that is such a good one. Anything else for
us tonight, Bill, No.

Speaker 18 (44:02):
All I know is that then we need the Dallas
Stars to get to the finals, and the Mavericks I
don't know about Bro. I don't know about well.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
If they can stay healthy, Luca had got it out
pretty good. It's okay see teams for real. But that's
that's gonna be a tough series. Bill, don't be a stranger.
You hold it down there, my man in Dallas, Okay,
in a big d all.

Speaker 18 (44:26):
Right, you're a man, Bernie.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Thank you, Thank you, Bill, appreciate you. DJ in Kansas,
Welcome into the Bernie Frawder Show. How are you?

Speaker 12 (44:35):
Thank you, sir, Thank you for a cough to tell
you that. I just want to say, thank you, sir
for expressed press on service. I just got a full
time job to express.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
But anyway, congratulations.

Speaker 12 (44:47):
I just wanted to say, who I okay? Football players
basketball players? Let them basketball players don't get hit once
and hard time in the Rids. Let's see how well
they're going to take that. I would like to see
Lebron James get roasted of telling.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Them, Oh my god, will that be something?

Speaker 12 (45:08):
If you want to be a coach, you want to
pick your team. Let the owner of the Lakers has
him the coach for the for the for the preseason,
and for a couple of games after and.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
See how he take it.

Speaker 12 (45:22):
Thank you for the call, Thank you for takeing my call.
Thanks Berne. I loved your show. Bro. Keep doing the
damn thing.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Well, thank you, DJ. Don't be a stranger. And you
know it's interesting people have mentioned Lebron. I'm gonna get
to it later in the show. Thanks to the new
CBA and the salary cap, there can no there cannot
be such a thing as a player coach anywhere. But
your premise, dude, this is so good so far. We
got Dion, Jerry Jones, Phil Mickelson, Lebron out standing, keep

(45:49):
it rolling, Jim in Massachusetts. How are you to that? Jim?

Speaker 10 (45:53):
Hey, how's it going, Bernie? You're great as always. Hey, listen,
the only guy you're gonna have in there is Larry Bird,
all right? Oh wow, with all that he used to do,
it would be a sellout and the public wouldn't be
able to get it because it be all the X
players that he played with and against that would be
lined up around the building to get in there to

(46:14):
tell you stories.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Oh my god, that would be a three day roast.
And you know what a phenomenal trash talker Larry Bird was.

Speaker 14 (46:21):
And he'd come back.

Speaker 10 (46:22):
I mean he had a really dry uh he's really funny. Yeah,
Philly guy. I mean just watched if you go on YouTube,
watch David let Himan with him in Magic Baron. He's
a riot and he'd come right back at whatever anybody
said and any thing, you know, like when he was
in the three point contest and the guy that was
shooting against him, I forgot the guy for the bull.

(46:43):
He goes, what do you think about this guy coming
to go? Yeah, I know where I'll find him on
the end of the Chicago bench.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
You know, remember the very first ever three point contest. Jim.
He walked by everybody and says, which you guys are
playing for second? And he went out and packed it up.
He was amazing, He truly was.

Speaker 10 (47:00):
That would be the best. That would be the best one.
That would be Even with the fellow veterans that he
played with, if any of them called and thought about
this question that you put out today, they'd go, Yeah,
that's the guy I would want to, you know, talk
to for a few hours.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
You know, Jim, great, great call as always. Man, We
really jammed up tonight. I want to get to everybody.
Don't be a stranger, as always. Enjoy your weekend there,
my man, Trevors spock Sweed. I gotta I gotta ask
you congratulations on your fifty five yard chip. Were you
using your wedge? What were you using? Which club?

Speaker 9 (47:31):
I was using the a wedge, which I'm not sure
if that's an anyway, it's it's a callaway exall way.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
You ain't playing, okay.

Speaker 9 (47:42):
Yeah, so that was. That was just awesome and it
saved my game. The rest of the game was crap
because I haven't listened the club since October of last year.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
But well, you know what Jodi Barra says, you always
play better when you don't play anyway. All right, what
do you got for us today? Looking forward to here?

Speaker 10 (47:59):
And it all right?

Speaker 9 (48:01):
Well, I already agree with you about the football, so
we don't.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Need to talk about that, okay.

Speaker 9 (48:06):
And I'm gonna get slightly philosophical, and I think the
roasts that went through Tom with Tom Brady, it could
be a seminal moment in society. And I'm I don't
want to get too much, but you know, I we
have so as a society are so ready to be offended,

(48:28):
and these roasts are starting to you know, may if
we get more of them, get our resilience back, if
you know what I mean. The guy that I want
to see roasted is MJ. He's got a lot of
stuff and I know he's already been then in all
these callers, I mean like they've stolen all my thunder.
There's another guy that I would like to see roasted,

(48:49):
which is Dan Campbell.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, maybe a few years down the road. He's you know,
he's he is the real deal. I covered the Lions
from ninety eight to what he was a tight end
in the Neil seventeen. He's exactly like he is, not
like he was in But anyway, yeah, listen, you bring
up a really good point. I talked about this in
the Ben Malacher last night. It's became a polarizing roles.
But anyway, final thoughts in terms of that.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
Okay, So I know that we're both, you know, in
men of a certain age as it were. And I
remember in the seventies the racial stuff and the offensive
stuff was not anywhere near what it is now. We
had a guy named Larry Wilde which would publish joke books,
the Official Polish Italian Joke Book, the Official White Folks

(49:35):
Black Folks Joke Book, the Official Republican Democrat Joke Book,
the Official Lawyers Joke Book. So I have a great
lawyer joke which is not super scared love to tell.
And we were a more resilient society back back then.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Not everybody's offended.

Speaker 9 (49:51):
Everybody kind of got along a lot better at the time.
You know, you had the Carol O'Connor and all the family,
and you had Jefferson's and you had all this kind
of stuff. We were more resilient society, you know, some
years ago. Now I'll ask you, will you allow me
to tell my lawyer joke?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I will allow, But can we push it to next
week because I got so many callers tonight? My man,
it's really quick. Go ahead, do it?

Speaker 9 (50:22):
Okay, really quick? What's it for? Difference between a hundred
million lawyers and one hundred million sperm?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Oh boy, here we go, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (50:31):
At least at least one of the sperm has a
chance to become human.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Oh look at that Mark. Where's your rim shot? Mark?
Give him some rim shot? All right, my man, enjoy
your livations tonight, and we'll talk to you. We'll talk
to you soon. And by the way, as far as age, look,
there's chronological age, there's biological age, and there's psychological age.
Chronologically I might be one thing. I might be chronologically accomplished,

(50:58):
but psychologically I'm I'm somewhere around animal house, and biologically
I'm in my early thirties. Trust me, trust me on
that one. All right. I always look forward to Jerome
and Charleston's calls because the man has no shyness, Jerome,
you have got the floor.

Speaker 14 (51:18):
You know who I'd like to get roasted, Donald John Trump.
That's who I like to get it roasted. I would
sit there for three hours if I had to, and
enjoy every land.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
He's pretty much roasted every day, Jerome, what more than
you want?

Speaker 12 (51:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (51:34):
Right now, right, every minute of it.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Sure, Yeah, let's go ahead.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Austin Rivers.

Speaker 14 (51:40):
You know what I love about this generation. They're fast,
they flooded themselves, and there's a lot of ten Oh,
I got thirty guys. I can put him in his Yeah, right,
luck chuckling rock tackling poor Jackson or an underrated guy
like William Andrews or getting hit by practice old Rayden
Mitchki or Jack tying them all at Kasi or Ronnie

(52:04):
Lott or some of them guys jack O Lamber. Yeah
there's a guy you're scared of the hell.

Speaker 12 (52:10):
Out of you.

Speaker 14 (52:10):
Yeah, good luck, and talk about old guys. Let them
all the modern generation ones? Okay, has he ever done
anything about his last name?

Speaker 9 (52:20):
Loving him?

Speaker 14 (52:21):
I made your producer law features absolutely enough and I
totally agree.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
With it than your own quick question, quick question, and
I I always enjoy your calls. You were one of
the original callers when we started this four months ago,
and I appreciate that.

Speaker 14 (52:34):
I get my spockulers from my mom.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Okay, did you did you play football at East in
high school or thereabouts? Have you Warren Pads?

Speaker 12 (52:43):
Could you repeat that?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Did you play football in high school? Or have you
ever had pads on?

Speaker 14 (52:49):
I tried to, but I didn't like getting hit.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
See here, so you see, you're making my point. Football
is pain. I don't care how fast you're on, how
high job you got hands, if you're graceful, if you
can fly like a bird, dude, if you don't like
getting hit and being hit. Hell, I played football in
high school so I could date. I still didn't date.

Speaker 14 (53:10):
I had to in the summers. My god, man, come on.

Speaker 18 (53:18):
Water.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
That's true back in the day. All right, Jerome, listen,
I gotta get to these others. We'll talk to you
next week. Always appreciate your calls. We got to get
to everybody. Poppy Jack, Arthur, Anthony Stephen. Nobody is getting
shut out. Everybody is getting in. This has been sensational
so far. We're going to have a roast with Larry Bird,

(53:40):
Michael Jordan, Dion Sanders, Jerry Jones, Phil Mickelson, Lebron James,
I want Bill Belichick. Hell, even Donald J. Trump will
have a Jerome arrange that one eight seven seven nine
in on Fox. The Midnight Hour will continue from where
I sit in Las Vegas. It is the Maynight Hour
and I'm glad you're all joining in it. Buddy is

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all over tonight. I'm Bernie Frattle, wher comey lyve from
the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tarret dot com studios.
Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie
Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on
the Bernie Fradtle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to live
from the tarat dot com studios here in Las Vegas.
As we continue with the Midnight Hour from where I
sit here in Las Vegas. It is the midnight Hour

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back after the phones were joined by Poppy Congratulations in order.
Last night of the Ben Mallor Show, you told our
audience take the Denver Nuggets. They're gonna open up a
can of whoop ass and look what happened.

Speaker 12 (54:34):
Yeah, thank you, Bernie.

Speaker 15 (54:35):
I want to say thank you for the consecut derby.
I'm miss missed at the horse you helped me made
that bling bling and I love the midnight when you
were talking about that, and I just wanted to say that,
you know, everyone, happy Mother's Day weekend and be safe
out there.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Good call.

Speaker 15 (54:52):
And Doc Rivers is just talking about the cloud about
like all he's trying to do relevant NFL players. But
the one player I would love Bernie Plann. I played
high school football and his physical I got beat up
in training camp and got a whooping and when I
went in the game, I knocked this guy out because
it's fight off for survival with either him or me.
But I would have beat the one by Emma as

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a corner back.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Like on, all right, who do you want to see roasted?
Who would you pay to see roasted? We've had some
phenomenal names. And by the way, if you already agree
with one of the names, you can say it, just
tell me why you'd like to see that person roasted?

Speaker 15 (55:31):
Well, you know, on the person I really decides on.

Speaker 12 (55:33):
Like a lot, I agree with.

Speaker 15 (55:34):
Someone as Lebronz Games. I used to like him when
he was in the NBA with eighteen years old, but
I don't like him right now because his ego got
too much to him. I saw Stage Jam too with
my kids and I fell asleep of that movie, Bernie,
and then he actually blocked me on Instagram.

Speaker 9 (55:49):
And I know he's very start.

Speaker 15 (55:50):
He's not thought mentally on the social media. So I
would love to see Lebron James k Roseter because he's
just thought.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Fair enough for that's come up, and I think people
would like to see that. I don't think it'll ever happen.
All Right, Poppy, enjoy the rest of your week in
pal Good call on the net. Jack here in Las Vegas.
Welcome to the Bernie Frownis Show. How are you?

Speaker 9 (56:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Hi, Jim, Oh, I'm sorry, Go ahead.

Speaker 19 (56:14):
I uh.

Speaker 20 (56:15):
One of the callers took my lawyer joke. So I
just have one comment and one question. You got six
eight two fifty at twenty.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Two years old.

Speaker 20 (56:24):
I think Lebron James could have done something.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Well, don't we don't know. I think he played high
school football. But yeah, and I'll mean to cut you off,
but it's one thing to theoretically think you can do
it because your body type. But I'll tell you what
the NFL is and Manasley, go ahead, Jack, No, I know.

Speaker 20 (56:40):
And then now that he doesn't Mantle Genobili flopped. I mean,
he's not doing it now.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
And he denies it.

Speaker 20 (56:46):
Go ahead, I just started listening to you. I listened
to Ben Maller for a little while now, and I
just heard that you're a golfer and I'm in Vegas,
and I was just wondering if you have any good
golf courses that are on the cheaper end, you know what.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Follow me on Twitter and get my DM and I'll
send you some I'll send you some recommendations. Okay, Jack,
all right, thank you, all right, buddy, you take care
all right. Uh, let's go out to Philadelphia. Love it
Arthur in Philadelphia. Good evening or good morning, depending on
your perspective. Welcome to the Bernie Fradleshew.

Speaker 21 (57:22):
Good morning, sir.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
How are you doing doing well?

Speaker 21 (57:24):
You I'm doing quite well.

Speaker 12 (57:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Tonight.

Speaker 21 (57:29):
The person I'd like to see roasted is Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Oh that's a beauty. That's so good. Go ahead.

Speaker 21 (57:38):
He's so controversial. I mean, I would like to see
him have to face our Google people.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
There's a lot of meat on the bone there too.
Oh yes, your playing career, but in his off the
field career. I mean even Dayton, Shaley and Woodley. I
mean he says one thing does another. His life's a
beautiful mystery. Well the hell, let's find out any thoughts
on the NFL stuff, Arthur.

Speaker 21 (58:04):
Yes, I'd like to see a guy like Draymond Green
playing in the NFL, especially with his Sonatigans, which is
all boats and all.

Speaker 13 (58:13):
See how he feels.

Speaker 21 (58:14):
When somebody's sitting back at him.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I'll tell you, being from Philadelphia, Arthur, I know you
know the name Vince Papali right. Oh you know what,
we probably made it in the NFL. The dude's tougher
than a two dollars steak man. He'll knock your ass off.
That's why he played the NFL.

Speaker 21 (58:33):
Yes, they don't realize in the NFL it's contact constantly.
If you're not waiting for it, you're not going to make.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
It million percent. Arthur. Appreciate you checking in, and I
don't be a stranger. Anthony in Bakersfield, always irregular. Looking
forward to your thoughts tonight on the subject.

Speaker 22 (58:51):
What do you got, Well, I'm just going to project
this out there of Peyton Manning.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
I think he'd be willing to do it. I thought
of that as well. I thought, because you got Brady
and you got Manny, that would be a good one.

Speaker 22 (59:02):
Go ahead, yes, sir, because he participates in the growth.

Speaker 23 (59:07):
He's done that.

Speaker 22 (59:08):
I know he has an accountant for one time, but
you know, he's a walking billboard for jokes. He's so kind,
he's so nice. But then again, if you see clips
of him yell and got Jeff Saturday on the sidelines,
he could be a little little meaning at times and stuff.
So I bet there's stories in the walker room and
other points, like on the on the private side, that

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some of these guys go at him on a personal level,
like Julian Edelman did with Brady. So I think that's
gonna be a good concept. And while I was holding
I was thinking about Mark Davis too.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Oh my god, he'd probably go for He's a pretty
nice guy. And Peyton Manning's got a great sense of humor.
I mean he's he's been on Saturday Night Live, he's
been around, so.

Speaker 22 (59:50):
Yeah, oh he really does. He really does have a
good sense of humor, and I think he'd be all
for it. I'm gonna throw this out there, just like
everybody's throwing predictions out there, and they're guessing this and
that for the playoffs, the NBA playoffs and whatever. The
next superstar that's the sports superstar that's gonna get roasted
is Saint Manning.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
All right, good one. I can certainly see that happening,
and I think he'd probably be gained four a lot
of these other guys. I think Lebron would be a stiff,
but you never know. They won't do without their consent.
All right, Thanks a lot, Anthony steven in Kansas City,
welcome back in. How are you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Hey, Bernie.

Speaker 23 (01:00:25):
Great to hear you, A great, great question tonight as usual.
I mean, the thing about the way they're doing these
roasts now is you have to have someone who's sort
of humble and in on the joke. And that's why
a lot of these guys wouldn't work, because they're they're
so full of themselves and they kind of got a
little bit of that with Brady. It was good, but
you could tell Brady was very uncomfortable with a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Lot of it.

Speaker 23 (01:00:48):
I mean, one of the best I ever saw with,
believe it or not, was Bruce Willis because he loved it.
I think he was a cab driver of Bartender.

Speaker 12 (01:00:55):
Back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
He loved it.

Speaker 18 (01:00:57):
So I'm I'm gonna go off the board.

Speaker 23 (01:00:59):
I'm gonna go with Brucey and Caitlyn Jenner.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I think, oh my goodness, I think gold medalist of
the nineteen seventy six Olympics.

Speaker 23 (01:01:12):
And I think he would I think he would be terrific.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I mean you would probably would. Yes, you can.

Speaker 23 (01:01:18):
You can bring in every card ash. I mean they
would just and he would roll with the here. Caitlyn
would roll as a jokes. That's that's the thing. And
my and my nominee for basketball player would be Dennis Rodman.
Of course, I'd want to see Dennis in the in
the NFL. I think that would have been That would
have been great. He would have been a good special
teams or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Turn maybe maybe just kick a cameraman in the nuts
and get suspended for twelve games. All right, Well, well
said Steven. I mean he's he's right that we have
a lot of great names on our wish list here,
but somebody are stiffs and take themselves so seriously. I
don't think they'd ever go for it, but you never know.
Tony san Berry and Current you are up next to

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you hang right there, everybody's getting in the night in
the midnight hour, no one gets turned away. But first
let's go back to our guy, the proud new Father,
Kevin Figures with the latest.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
All Right, Bernie Friday Night.

Speaker 16 (01:02:11):
In the NBA, the Nuggets picked up their first victory
in their second round series against Minnesota, the final score
one seventeen to ninety. Nikola Jokic one assist, shy of
a triple double. Jamal Murray scored twenty four points there
as well. In the Eastern Conference, Tyres Halliburton scored thirty
five points.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Andrew Nimhard hit the go ahead three pointer in the.

Speaker 16 (01:02:30):
Final sixteen seconds to give Indiana a one to eleven
to one oh six win over the Knicks, cutting New
York series lead to two games to one. On the ice,
Evan Bouchard score at the game winning golden overtime, leading
the Oilers over the Connects four to three, tying that
series at a game apiece. Florida all over Boston six
to two to take a two to one series lead
as well. And baseball, the Padres snapped the Dodgers seven

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game win streak with a two to one victory thanks
to a walk off RBI single from Luisa Rise. The
Royals beat the Angeles two.

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
To one for their third straight win.

Speaker 16 (01:02:59):
Ron the Kuna Junior and met Olsen with home runs
for Atlanta as they defeated the Mets four to two.
And golf Xander Schoffley a four stroke lead over Jason
Day and Roy McElroy through two rounds at.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
The Wells Fargo Championship. Back to Bernie freddo there it is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Who's your daddy? Kevin figures he's your daddy, all right,
my man. By the way, I got a tweet from
a gentleman named Lawrence his handles GC Rideshare guys said
I'd like to see Roger Goodell roasted another good one
to Miami, Tony. Welcome back, Antony. How are you doing tonight, buddy?

Speaker 24 (01:03:30):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
But what's going on?

Speaker 25 (01:03:31):
I want to correct Jerome about ten years ago over
But twenty twelve Trump did get roasted.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah. My producer Mark Ramsey said that in my ear. Yeah,
go you you are exactly correct.

Speaker 10 (01:03:42):
Go ahead.

Speaker 25 (01:03:44):
There's one thing about well, I'll tell you who I
wish I could see that will never happen, and then
I'll just throw two other ones. But Lebron's it's not
there's no humility in him at all, which is why
he's not the King of burgers. So I would I
would say he's been to four Super Bowls and got

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booed at two or three. I remember, there's no way
anyone would ever jam in any coliseum or anywhere to
acknowledge that this guy is great outside of like him
having to go and pay everyone. There was a thing
with the roast on Sunday that I specifically saw that
without any braggart and and and I don't know what

(01:04:29):
term you want to say, Yeah, everyone was in unison.

Speaker 18 (01:04:33):
With Brady, and it was it was a powerful.

Speaker 25 (01:04:36):
Moment for society in my opinion, because you had you
had people of all walked to life. It was based
in the NFL, which was great to me because the
NFL goes back decades and decades and decades, and it
really is the backbone of It's like I went time
traveling watching that, and it was just a fun time

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that a lot of people in my life that I
that saw I told to see it. They said, I haven't.

Speaker 18 (01:05:01):
Laughed at much in over ten years.

Speaker 25 (01:05:04):
Really powerful moment, and it just was the moving point
of it to me was was which is the coach
Belichick getting up there. He's on the short list of
whatever you want to argue, the five greatest coaches of

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all the sports of all time.

Speaker 24 (01:05:25):
And he got up there and he.

Speaker 25 (01:05:28):
Saw humility in him and it was beautiful, and I
really thought it was. The whole thing was touching. And
I know you got to get to the callege. I
just would throw out two other ones. I would say
Tiger Woods and Lance ar'mstrong. I think Tiger would do it,
and I'm not sure about Lance, but I'd love to
see both those guys up there, you know, having fun

(01:05:49):
with them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
All really good suggestions. All right, thanks Tony, appreciate it.
My man Very in Maryland, welcome in tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
How are you, Bernie HoTT of your show?

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
All we can thank you, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
One is michar A. Tyson from Butter Douglas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Tyson. You know what I think he would do it,
I've done you. You would not believe what an intelligent
man he is and how quick and live continue on.

Speaker 8 (01:06:17):
And also Carmelone in the NFL he might be able to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Now that's a guy who might Again, you just don't know.
You just don't know. Uh, you know. I had a
high school football coach said a guy might have a
Cadillac body, but if he's got a volkswaggon heart, he
ain't gonna make it on the football field.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir, all right, good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Stuff, Barry, don't be a stranger man. We do this
every Friday night, midnight. See it's here midnight in Las Vegas.
We called the midnight hour for more I stay, but
it's kind of a universal thing. Kurt and California. Thanks, Barry, appreciated.
Kurt and California. You're up next. Good evening, Kurt. How
you been.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Hey, it's been a while. Yeah, i'd like to hear
I'm sorry, let me start it him. The three commissioners
of baseball, football and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
So you have Rob Manfred, Gary Bettman, and well how
about Adam Silver whatever he's starting to bug me, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
And I would I would like to know the date
that they're going to get with the commissioner of hockey
to convince him to remove the blue lines.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Well they pretty yeah, fair enough. We'll have to discuss
that another time. But uh, if you had to pay
to see one guy roasted, who would it be?

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
The Commissioner of football.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yeah, that's come up. Somebody tweeted that at me. Any
thoughts about whether you could just dump NBA players into
the NFL just because they're big and tall.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
No, I don't think that that would work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I don't either. It might, but you got to prove
it to me. Don't tell me, show me, Kurt, anything
else before we let you run.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
The Commissioner of Baseball I think would be second.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yeah, Rob Manfred though, that'd be cool. He'd have a
lot to answer for it. But you know, not a
lot of they're there, but not all good suggestions. Kurt,
don't be a stranger man to Ida whole, the beautiful
state of Idaho. Riley, what part of Idaho you in?

Speaker 26 (01:08:17):
Man, I'm currently in the Boys area.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Very nice.

Speaker 26 (01:08:21):
I'm from Seattle. But I gotta say I would just
love to see Russell Wilson get roasted.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
That would be nothing. That would be something I don't
think anybody wants to though. I don't know what the
deal is with him, man, No one wants to be
around him. But anyway, continue on. It's a good choice.
Is there something? Is there a specific reason?

Speaker 21 (01:08:43):
No?

Speaker 26 (01:08:43):
I mean, I think if anything, it would be the
publicity to get one backed by the public. He's so
you know, people have kind of really lost it with
him and him sitting up there just getting told by
the Richard Tairman's camp Chancellers and I don't know, maybe
you get Earl Thomas and even Pete Carroll there just
kind of go off on him. They don't let all
the steam out, put it out there for everybody to see,

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and you know, having it be a thing that we
all laugh over, you know, I feel like it kind
of eases the punch it away. But yeah, it's definitely
something I could never see Russell doing. But you know,
it was just it's the first guy that I thought of,
all right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Think that's more than fair. Russell Wilson has taken it
up that took us for so long. It might be mood.
I think. I think it's a good one, you know.
But when we think about Aaron Rodgers, a lot of
people want to see these people really get to come
up and so maybe someone want to see him as well.
Good stuff for Riley. Appreciate you checking in. David from
okanag with Japan. You've called him before. Welcome in. I'm

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sorry we lost David. Never mind, Okay, Jason in Denver.
How are you tonight, Jason? Celebrating those nuggets?

Speaker 8 (01:09:51):
I imagine, huh a Portland Trailblazer fan.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Oh, fair enough, it's what I get for, assuming, you know,
for the local team too.

Speaker 12 (01:09:59):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Well, you know, you know what they say when you
assume makes an ass out of you and me, I'm
in an asset of me. But now you go ahead,
you're up.

Speaker 8 (01:10:07):
I just wanted to point out that I think these
roads worked best when the guy who's being roasted has
a real sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:10:14):
I don't think Michael Jordan would work. I don't think
Lebron would work.

Speaker 13 (01:10:17):
But also the Lebron would be a problem because he's
pretty squeaky clean and he's roast. Worked better when these
guys have a little dirt, you know. And as much
as he might not like a lot of people don't
like Lebron for his flopping and the whining and all that.
Other than that, there's really nothing to roast them for.

Speaker 9 (01:10:33):
At least Brady.

Speaker 13 (01:10:34):
You know, there was the divorce and the plastic surgery
and stuff like that that they get him on, but
it'd just be hard to get But I think they've
already done a roast to Peyton Manning.

Speaker 14 (01:10:45):
He would be.

Speaker 13 (01:10:46):
Great, but I'm pretty sure they've already done that.

Speaker 10 (01:10:47):
They already didn't want.

Speaker 27 (01:10:48):
A Donald Trump as well.

Speaker 13 (01:10:49):
But I do like the previous caller who said Tiger Woods.
I think he has the type of sense of humor
and humility that it could be good. And he's such
a well known figure that I think the community to
have a good time with it.

Speaker 10 (01:11:01):
And he has enough stirt that it would make it
funny for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Got any of those Denver Nuggets you think could just
drop into an NFL game and you don't have no problem.
I mean, I really took verage to what Austin.

Speaker 13 (01:11:16):
You know, Austin, I think I think Aaron Gorton could
be a uh you know, if you started earlier in
the football, he might be like a good linebacker.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Next sixteen.

Speaker 13 (01:11:29):
Six nine, Yeah, or maybe a tight end.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Sure, well, that two tall Jones did it. But again,
it's all it's all about whether or not you can
take a shot and keep getting up. And we're not
talking once twice. We're talking fifty times a game, seventeen
weeks over the course of year. All right, Jason, we
do this every Friday night at midnight. Let's bring in
the crew. Kevin figures you've been listening to all this.
Do you have somebody you'd like to see roasted?

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:11:53):
The first name I thought of was Floyd Mayweather. Wow,
a name thirty some years he and he's definitely had
There's a lot of ammunition that can be used against him.

Speaker 7 (01:12:04):
I'd love to see him get roasted.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Well, there's some real ammunition and some of it might
get a little uh oh yeah, crossing the line.

Speaker 17 (01:12:11):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
All right, let's talk about the concept. I don't know
your background, Kevin. You do a great job. And if
you played football, great if you did, no big deal.
If you did, you know what it's like to put
on pads and how they stink and they hurt and
he never really did. Just not comfortable, Okay, right that alone.
It's football is pain. That's my deal. It's pain. People
don't realize it. I just thought it was acidine to

(01:12:35):
imply you just drop thirty guys in the NBA right
in the NFL.

Speaker 16 (01:12:38):
Your thoughts, Yeah, that's completely ridiculous, Like, look, I'm not
There are certainly guys who are great athletes in the
NBA who if you give them a year or two
if they're in the prime of their careers, maybe they
can train it and carve out a training camp role or.

Speaker 7 (01:12:50):
Something like that.

Speaker 16 (01:12:50):
But most of the guys who make it in the
NFL have been playing football their entire lives. You're Antonio
Gates is and guys who just came out of the
basketball court and started playing our diamond does. And that
doesn't excuse me, our you and far between, I should say,
that just doesn't happen. So the idea that you can
just take a guy and put him out there at
receiver and say, go ahead and run some routes is like, yeah,
when a guy's running wide open, you know, twenty yards
down field, great, that doesn't happen that often. More often

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than not, you're catching the ball over the middle and
the safety's head hunting you. Even in today's NFL, where
I know the rules are more slanted towards the offense,
you're still out there getting hit and blasted every single
every single play. The idea that you could just drop
somebody out of one sport onto another, especially one that's
that physically demanding, is completely ridiculous and quite honestly disrespectful.

Speaker 7 (01:13:31):
To players who do play in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
You know, that's a real angle to this. And that's
why I think you saw Chris Long and Pat McAfee
and some of these guys just say, what come on,
what are we really doing here? Good good stuff, Kevin
Ian your thoughts. So, who would you like to see roasted?

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
It's for me.

Speaker 28 (01:13:53):
It's one that I just know would never actually happen,
and it's because he would never agree to it. But
Kevin Durant to me, would be really.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Oh wow, yeah he's I like Kevin, but he would
go ahead.

Speaker 28 (01:14:05):
Yeah, no, I like him too. But the reason I
just think it would be funny is is just because
just knowing him and in the few public settings that
we've seen him actually get roasted, Like I know what
the SP's before the like in the opening monologue might
have been Peyton Manning, I think had had some roast,
and then like the point is, when we've seen it,
he's just been absolutely straight faced, won't even like pretend

(01:14:28):
to laugh, just straight face for the cameras whatever. And
I think that would be so funny to just have
an entire panel of people just going at him, calling
him a snake for going to the way. You know,
I'm a Warriors fan and stuff, and I still think
this would be hilarious, you know, calling him a snake
and stuff, and he would he would hate it, And
I think that is what would make it so funny
to me. But really it is kind of just to
eat your own Like, what what do you find the

(01:14:49):
most funny out of these? Out of these roasts, Like,
I really do think that the fact that Tom Brady
had all that dirt on him and stuff like the
cheating scandals and the divorce, that really did make for
good content. You know that that is kind of an
aspect of it too, that that would make Tiger Wood's
a good one for for the callers who said that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
So let's get to the NFL part. Your thoughts on.

Speaker 28 (01:15:10):
That, Yeah, yeah, pretty much what Kevin said, it's it's
it's ridiculous, right, And I mean, I'm not sure if
what Austin Rivers meant was was that maybe he meant
that that the top thirty caliber athletes in the NBA
could like that they're capable of being the caliber athletes
of playing in the NFL, because that's you know, that's indisputable.

Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
Of course they are. But it's the fact that they.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
May be capable theoretically right in theoryoretically.

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
But there's so much more that goes into it.

Speaker 28 (01:15:40):
There's the physicality of the game, the mental side of it,
and not to say that they wouldn't be able to
handle that definitively, but you can't just say, oh, yeah,
they're you know, the top thirty NBA players, you'd be
able to drop them into an NFL team and they'd
be fine.

Speaker 7 (01:15:50):
That's not true.

Speaker 28 (01:15:51):
And and also every single year there's prospects who were
coming into the NFL who were absolute freak athletes, like
absolute freaks who never amounts to anything in the NFL
because they can't handle the other aspects of the game.
And I think that's the part that Austin Rivers isn't
really considering.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
All Right, good stuff, we're gonna get to Marc, but
we've still got time for you folks to get in.
It's still the midnight hour eight seven, seven, nine to
nine on Fox eight seven seven, nine ninety six six
three sixty nine. Who would you pay to see roasted?
And do you honestly think you could just drop NBA
players into the NFL and they could just show right
up and show out. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're company line

(01:16:29):
from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tireck dot Com studios.
Don't go away. It's the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox
Sports Radio. All right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show,
Fox Sports Radio. We continue on. We've got more callers.
You're all getting in, So Hank tight. If it spills
into the one am hour, so be it. It's happened before.

(01:16:50):
David in North Dakota. You've heard the discourse all night.
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 19 (01:16:55):
Well, you ever remember a guy named Otto Graham? Or
you got old enough?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Well, I'm old enough to read a book, and I
know all about Autobram.

Speaker 12 (01:17:04):
Go ahead, Otto.

Speaker 19 (01:17:06):
Otto has a ring, had a ring as a player
from the Rochester Royals before he joined the Cleveland Browns' quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Transition.

Speaker 19 (01:17:22):
Yes, and then Hank Stram when he was a coach
for the Kansas City Chiefs. For the owner, he worked
out Will Chamberlain and he had Will run. Lindy Dawson
would throw it over the crossbar. Will was able to
jump up and catch it, but Will decided he really
didn't want to play football.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
And why was that? Why was that David.

Speaker 19 (01:17:45):
I don't think he wanted to get hit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Plus yeah yeah. And by the way, I know the
autogram story and hang on the line. They're my friend.

Speaker 19 (01:17:52):
See he played in a championship game every year in
both sports. And then as far as the roast goes personally,
I'd like to see Mario Andretti formerly One World.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Oh wow, there's a there's a black Okay, well, well
fair enough. I would just say this good stuff there,
my man in North Dakota. Don't be a stranger. Look,
I took the statement that Austin Rivers made at his
face value. Okay, you could just drop thirty guys. We
can always find the outlier. We can always find the

(01:18:24):
one hundred and six year old lady that smokes two
packs of camel non filters a day. You can always
do that to make your argument. But what we're trying
to do is just simply what I would say, deal
with the here and now and the statement as it sat,
and the way you answered the wil Chamberlain question was
everything we needed to know. Regardless of your size, regardless

(01:18:47):
of your height and weight, regardless of your athleticism. It's
one thing to think he can do it. It's one
thing to theoretically.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
You know, be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
You know, a scoulet as a guy who would have
have these requisite skills in speed and athleticism, but it's
one thing to to actually do it. Got a couple
of great tweets here from SPT Legend. I would like
to see Stephen A. Smith and Charles Barkley roasted a
couple of damn good ones. You don't think a guy
like Shack I played nose tackle. Yeah, I guess in

(01:19:18):
theory he could, But you don't know. You don't know
until you actually get on the field and you've been
you know, knocked in ahead a few times and min
dizzy are got up and don't know where you're at,
or you're so hot and tired and parched you can't
see straight. Another great tweet from Raging Romanticists. I'd love

(01:19:39):
to see Aaron Rodgers roasted, but it would never happen
because he's criminally self absorbed. He only goes on shows
where he isn't challenged. He wouldn't be able to not
handle getting his ass kissed. Pretty hard to argue with that, all, right,
hand tight, Howard and Lynn, you are up next. We're
getting to all yeah, I want to hear what you
gotta say. We are wrapping up the midnight hour on

(01:20:02):
the Bernie Frattle Show. Good these knuckleheads in the NBA
play in the NFL, and who would you pay to see?
Roast to this list tonight is amazing. So Howard Lynnhank
Tight right after the top of the Hour're gonna go
right to you. Keep it locked. You are listening to
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(01:20:47):
it up on the midnight hours. As often happens, we
spill past midnight. I uh, from where I sit here
in Las Vegas, we are just outside the midnight hour,
but it continues colloquially. Howard in Boulder, Colorado. Thanks for
your patients, welcome in. What do you got for us?

Speaker 27 (01:21:05):
I have two and they're both from a totally opposite perspective.
The first would be Charles Barkley because I think he
would be great. Obviously, he can take a joke. You
see how him and Jack banter against each other, and
I think he would just come back with both both
barrels blazing at the end to get back at everyone

(01:21:28):
at the end. And the other one, from just a
train wreck perspective, would be Antonio Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that. I just said
a gentleman on Twitter tweet at me just a minute ago,
by the name of Pat Wrist. It said Antonio Brown.
So good minds think alike. Outstanding. I think we would
like to see both of those, right, any of those?
The question is will it happen? Not sure? Do you
have anything quickly, Howard on whether or not NBA players

(01:21:56):
can just jump right into the NFL?

Speaker 14 (01:22:03):
Not many?

Speaker 27 (01:22:05):
A lot of them played high school football.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Not one comes to mind.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Yeah, fair enough, All right, thanks for your patience. We
do this every Friday night, midnight Pacific time here in
Las Vegas. All right, we wrap it up with Lynn
in oceanside, Lynn, where you been my man?

Speaker 19 (01:22:24):
Hey, Ernie?

Speaker 14 (01:22:25):
I was on vag case man me and oh cool?

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Where'd you go? Hey? Where'd you go? Lynn?

Speaker 24 (01:22:30):
We celebrated our forty first anniversary together and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 24 (01:22:36):
They saw us a big gayle at the house, my children.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
That's outstanding what God has joined together. Let no man
put asunder.

Speaker 12 (01:22:44):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 24 (01:22:45):
It's been a long ride, but it's been great.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
So yeah, you've heard the discourse all night, Lynn, looking
for what you've got to say about the matter.

Speaker 24 (01:22:55):
I was gonna say Antonio Brown, but you got two
people already kicking him, only because.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
But you could pick them. You might have a different
reason for one to see that go go ahead, I mean.

Speaker 24 (01:23:06):
Okay, So, like says, I'm the one spending the money,
I gotta get laughter. So first of all, Antonio Brown's
gonna show up in boxer shorts and a nick full
of gold chains, and I'm gonna be just laughing my
butt off. And if he allows you to roast him,
he's probably gonna throw some antics in there too to
make it well worthwhile.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
You might take off a shirt and leave in the
middle of the damn ceremony. Just run out of there.

Speaker 24 (01:23:33):
He would be unpredictable, which would make it even more great.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Wouldn't that be something? Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:23:39):
Yeaes sir. Now, on the the NBA.

Speaker 24 (01:23:43):
Players to the NFL, you have to go on.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Body types, and Lebron might be the.

Speaker 24 (01:23:47):
Only one that could take the punishment. Even though he
cries a lot, he's he has a hell of a
body and he can take a lot of punishment. And also,
if you ever get a chance, check out Desmond Bane.
I think for oh yeah, oh, he got a hell
of a body.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 24 (01:24:03):
But here's the thing with in fact be in Bernie,
there could be an injury factor because I played who's
our body's tend to run lean, So as soon as
we get whacked way out of there most of the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Time, and you know, you learn technique and leverage two
and it's all a matter of your heart and you're
and what you got inside you. I'm gonna go way
back in the cookie jar. There was a little guy
that played free safety for the old Saint Louis Cardinals,
Larry Wilson Hall of Fame or google him. He was crazy.
He couldn't have been more than one hundred and sixty pounds, Skinny. Wow.

(01:24:38):
I mean I covered the Lions. I gotta tell you
one real quick thing, Lynn, I covered the Lions for
ten years. I've been in out of NFL locker rooms
a thousand times. A lot of those guys aren't that big.
They're just badasses. Man. You'd be surprised how many thin guys,
short guys all. They come in, all shapes and sizes.

Speaker 24 (01:24:58):
Barry Sanders proved that, didn't He.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Five foot eight by the way, nicest guy in the world.
But I gotta tell you, yeah, he proved it. He's
one of many that proved it.

Speaker 24 (01:25:07):
So yeah, all right, Lynn, Uh first man, you know
your stuff, and whenever you on, I'm on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Glad to hear it. Lynn, You're always welcome. We'll talk again.
Thanks Lynn for checking in. So this has been as
most of them have, callers just carrying the freight. I mean,
we've got everything from Caitlin Jenner to Larry Bird, to
Michael Jordan to Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Dion Sanders, Jerry Jones,
Phil Michelson, Lebron, James Tiger Woods, Oh my god, so good,

(01:25:39):
Russell Wilson, Floyd Mayweather, Antonio Brown, Phil Micholson. Who that
Lance Armstrong. I know I've probably left somebody out of
Mark Ramsey. Let's get to you. Uh, you haven't had
a chance to weigh in. Who would you like to
see roasted? He paid as he roasted, So.

Speaker 29 (01:25:57):
I was thinking for roast for that, I would maybe
do Michael Vick. Then maybe Joe Montana.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Oh, Joe Montana would be a good one.

Speaker 29 (01:26:07):
And then Dan Marino because they could just talk about
him because he didn't make that level, so they would
talk about him about that stuff and about his gloves
and losing weight, gaining weight, doing the commercials about losing
weight gain anyway, so stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Now, when it comes to go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 29 (01:26:22):
When it comes to can basketball players play football back
and forth like that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
I would.

Speaker 29 (01:26:29):
The first idea is no, there's two different disciplines. And
like someone said early in the week, football players have this,
you know, car crash every seven or ten seconds. Basketball
players have a different I think of more of a
casual bumping into each other. It could get harder, but
they don't really have to hit each other the same way.

(01:26:51):
But when it comes to who possibly could I was
thinking of the guy they call grandmama, Larry Johnson he
could have oh yeah, and then Rick Mahorn he was
big enough to play football.

Speaker 9 (01:27:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Well again, though I'm not questioning their body type, I'm
not questioning their physicality or their size. But I have
always believed all my life as an athlete and someone
who covered sports, size is the least important aspect when
it comes to judging an athlete. And it's all theoretical, see,

(01:27:22):
because size goes out the window if you don't have
the skill or the ability or the toughness uh you,
or the mental capacity to make size work for you.
It's it's it's just one component, right. I could line
up a ton of guys that are big that suck,
would suck, and a ton of little guys that would

(01:27:43):
shock you, and one more.

Speaker 29 (01:27:45):
Guy and one more guy for the for the roast.

Speaker 7 (01:27:48):
Warren sap Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
That would be something.

Speaker 12 (01:27:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yeah, yeah, he's crazy. He might he might start filling
the room with uppercuts.

Speaker 18 (01:27:57):
Warren.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Warren's got a switch man.

Speaker 7 (01:27:59):
Nobody would to make fun of Michael Jordan. He may
start a fight. He's you know, he's he doesn't play
around with anything.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Yeah, I'm guessing Jordan wouldn't take too kindly. You know,
one of the other tweeters, our callers butt up a
good point. You know, so many this list is phenomenal,
and we have put these names out there for a
reason because we genuinely would like to see how they
would react. You want to kind of see him get there,
go to Aaron. Aaron Rodgers' name has come up a
few times. But the but the issue here though, is

(01:28:28):
not so much the content, not so much the event itself.
But how are these guys going to react or they're
going to be amenable to it? Maybe if you've offered
him enough money, they do it. But I gotta tell
you it's whimsical and it's fanciful. Let me just close
by the way I started. Since the Tom Brady roast

(01:28:48):
struck a chord with so many people, we're ready for
another one. We're ready for another one. Don't wait so long.
My choice was Bill Belichick, Okay, but so many of
the people do a great job that as he's on
the midnight hour on the Bernie Frederickser. Just a great,
phenomenal list of names. People have paid attention. And you know,
look athletes, well, in some cases people see them as

(01:29:11):
you know, ten foot tall, large heroes, bigger than life,
that play fields of dreams. But they're human and these
roasts have a tendency to bring that out. One group
of people I don't want to see roasted. I don't
want to see the Minnesota fans get roasted. They've suffered
through thirty three years a heartbreak. So if they get
their heart ripped out again by the Denver Nuggets or
the Advance and it happens later, it ain't gonna be good.

(01:29:35):
I think the basketball gods. Oh the city of Minnesota,
that's not a city, that's a state, the state of Minnesota.
One I will share with you. I will share with
you a little bit of a chronology on how what's
taken place since the Minnesota Twins won the nineteen ninety
one World Series in Glorio's fashion, and how many times
they've had their heart ripped out since it's a rough one.

(01:29:58):
Have a heart, folks. Here are the I'm Bernie Fratto.
We're coming to you live from the Las Vegas Fox
Sports Radio, TIREC dot Com studios. Keep it locked right here.
You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.
All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,
come to your live fro the tarrerack dot Com studios
here in Las Vegas. Thanks to all the callers. Another
rousing midnight hour, just outstanding. What a list. I'm saving

(01:30:21):
this list and I'm ready for the next roast. I
just don't want the Minnesota fans roasted again. Let's go
back to nineteen ninety one. Just travel back in time
with me. The Minnesota Twins win the nineteen ninety one
World Series in glorious fashion. And by the way, why
am I doing this? Well, the Tea Wolves man, they've
come out of nowhere, and well, then that's not true,

(01:30:42):
and come out of nowhere. But they pummeled Denver in
the first two games. And last night I mentioned on
the Ben Mallor Show, are we waiting for the other
shoot to drop? I hope not? And sure enough Denver
showed up, showed out. Gay four is going to be huge.
So this carrot is consistently dang in front of the
Minnesota faithful. Okay, So nineteen ninety one Twins win the

(01:31:05):
World Series. The future is incredibly bright. So much to
anticipate in the world of Minnesota sports. The Twins they
had won in eighty seven, They'd won a ninety one,
could just be a dynasty. They even had a hockey
team then, Not the Minnesota Wild. They were the Minnesota
north Stars. They had just been in the Stanley Cup
finals the year before, didn't win it, but they were

(01:31:25):
in the finals the NBA after a thirty year absence,
remember the Minneapolis Lakers left for Los Angeles, all of
a sudden, they're back. The Minnesota Timberwolves, the expansion Timberwolves.
Super Bowl thirty six was going to be played in
the Metrodome, and checked that Super Bowl twenty six played
in the Metrodome in January nineteen ninety two when it

(01:31:45):
was Buffalo and the Redskins, I believe, followed the Men's
Final Four that spring, and golf even had the US
Open in Minnesota. This sports scene was blown up and
then reaction he set in. Since that moment, none of
Minnesota's four major pro sports teams, the Twins, the Timberwolves,

(01:32:08):
the NHL north Stars who since moved to Dallas now
they've become the Wild, and of course the NFL Vikings.
None of them have even have advanced to a championship
series or a Super Bowl much less won the damn thing.
So we're going on thirty three years now, thirty three
years with no title, and not just that they don't win,

(01:32:31):
they get embroiled through no fault of their own in
these comically unlikely scenarios. And not only is it the
longest active streak among the thirteen markets with four major
league sports teams, it's ten years longer than the one
behind it, and that's in Arizona. As a result, you've
got the Timberwolves and their unexpected success, and it's made
fans excited that it's also making them traumatized. They're on edge.

(01:32:55):
Not again, Please don't pull the rug out from under us.
The t Wolves not not exactly lit it up since
they joined the league, cumulatively the worst winning percentage since
they end of the NBA back in nineteen eighty nine. However,
this year they pretty much spent the season on top
of the Western Conference, looking down on everybody else. Well deserved,

(01:33:20):
lot of talent, great defense, well coached, and that's the problem.
Fans are still waiting for the other shoot to drop.
You don't believe me, all right, we got an intelligent audience.
You have to remember the nineteen ninety eight NFC Championship game.
The Vikings kicker Gary Anderson always got to do is
make a thirty eight yard field goal. Boom, and the

(01:33:41):
Vikings are in the Super Bowl against Denver. Nope, he
misses the field goal that opens the window for the
Atlanta Falcons to force overtime. The Vikings, who had been
fifteen and one that year, go home. The Falcons go
to the Super Bowl. The dirty Birds. This was not
just a good Vikings team, was an exceptionally great Vikings team.

(01:34:03):
They had scored five hundred and fifty six points during
the regular season, which was an NFL record at the time.
You had Randy Moss, who set the world on fire.
Minnesota wasn't just beating people as they were going fifteen
to one. They were winning by an average of almost
three touchdowns per game, and the only regular season loss
that Minnesota had in that fifteen in one season was

(01:34:25):
by three points. Now, this is a franchise who has
had success. They've been to four Super Bowls between nineteen
seventy and nineteen seventy seven. Finally, twenty one years later,
they seemed destined to finally break through and win one. Instead,
the Vikings they lose in the NFC Championship Game. And

(01:34:48):
the cruelest cut, the unkindest cut of all that was
the first field goal that Gary Anderson missed the entire season.
Make a thirty eight yard field goal, you go to
the Super Bowl. That's cruel man, that hurts. Okay, that's Buffalo.
Even Scott Norwoods miss was in the Super Bowl. And

(01:35:09):
by the way, as I said, Minnesota has been to
four Super Bowls, not like Detroit or Cleveland or some
of the other they've actually been there. As a matter
of fact, after the nineteen seventy seven Super Bowl, which
was the last Super Bowl that the Vikings were in,
they lost to the Raiders at the at the Rose
Bowl thirty two to fourteen. It was quite a Raiders team,

(01:35:30):
but the Vikings had a hell of a team too,
with Chuck Foreman and Fran Tarkenton. They're legendary quarterback. The
following week, Fran Tarkenton Dick Dick shap and I used
to talk about this story. He hosted Saturday Night Live
and in the opening monologue he said, Hi, I'm Fran Tarkenton,
quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings. We've been to four Super
Bowls this past decade and we've lost all four. And

(01:35:54):
you know what, we're going back to the Super Bowl
next year and we're gonna lose that one too. I
was hope for some there, Mark that's okay, all right.
Bottom line is this, They've never been back. They came close,
never been back now. Unlike the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Minnesota
Vikings actually have the NFL's tenth best regular season winning

(01:36:16):
percentage in the last thirty years, but they got the
fourth worst winning percentage in the playoffs. Meanwhile, the Twins,
they've come close. They've actually won nine division titles between
twenty oh two and last season, but at one point

(01:36:39):
during that period, they actually lost eighteen consecutive playoff games,
most of them to the Yankees. As our Steam leader
Scott Shapiro has pointed out on Twitter many times, tough deal.
And by the way, the North Stars, I told you
they left Minnesota. Six years after they left Minnesota and

(01:37:00):
became the Dallas Stars where they relocated, they actually won
the Stanley Cup in nineteen ninety nine. Now, the list
of devastating moments, by the way, just I'm talking about
the one since nineteen ninety one. It goes back to
the seventies. Have you ever heard the term hail mary?

(01:37:22):
Of course you have. Well, the first ever hail Mary
on record was a fifty yard touchdown pass to Drew
Pearson as the Cowboys knocked the Vikings out in the
nineteen seventy five playoffs in the last second play. Tell
me that doesn't hurt. How about nineteen eighty nine, that

(01:37:47):
infamous trade where the Vikings acquired running back herschel Walker,
perhaps the most lopsided trade in NFL history. You know
what happened there? Two thousand and three, I'll ever forget
Keith Millard. I think Keith mllard was still on the team.
Someone might correct me. I just remember somebody being pissed
off in a postgame interview. The two thousand and three
Vikings team was all set to get to the playoffs.

(01:38:09):
They led the NFC North and then the final play
of the season and nothing play against the Arizona Cardinals,
a last second touchdown pass by a guy not exactly
a household name named Nate Poole completely kicked the Vikings
and squadded their playoff spot. By the way, it didn't
help that there was a penalty for twelve men in
a huddle and not all that? How about Brett Favre,

(01:38:34):
the great Paul Allen, why do you ponder passing? In
the two thousand and nine NFC Championship game, it seemed
like the Vikings were destined to make some noise there
as well. And then the Blair Walls project in twenty
fifteen missed a twenty seven yard field goal they had
at least got the Vikings to the divisional round of

(01:38:55):
the playoffs. By the way, I'm not done. You've probably
forgotten this. Minnesota is such a good baseball town. But
in two thousand and two, Major League Baseball attempted to
contract the league and they wanted to dissolve the Minnesota
Twins franchise. Thanks to good people like Burt Blylevan, who
I got to know when he lived in Villa Park, California,

(01:39:16):
they got up thwarted and baseball in Minnesota was saved,
though only because the state judge prohibited the team from
breaking its metrodome lease. So when you watch the Timberwolves
get past the first round of the playoffs, as they
did back in two thousand and three two thousand and four,
you know you wait for the other shoe to drop back.

(01:39:38):
Then Sam Cassell, one of their star players. Well, he
got an injury after the playoffs. Ward has that he
was celebrating a little too much. So these are cruel
shoes for the Vikings fans to wear. Suffice it to say,
I think the good people in Minnesota are due. You
want it so bad though, you want it so badly

(01:39:59):
to believe it's not a curse. You can do this,
we can do it. But you look at the different
stories over the different years. I don't care who the
players are, who the coaches are, who the teams are.
It just keeps freaking happening. By the way, it got
a good tweet here from Steve Rodriguez speaking of Minnesota.
The day after Kirby Puckett passed away, Mike Greenberg on

(01:40:20):
ESPN eulogized his pocket for an entire three hours. I
won't read what Steve putt next, you can read it yourself,
but look, sports gods, get the memo. Cut these dudes
of break the people in Minnesota, good people coming out

(01:40:42):
christopherets world of soccer. But first let's go back to
a guy who's your daddy. Kevin figures all.

Speaker 16 (01:40:46):
Right, Well, the home team is still a searching for
a victory. In the Timberwolves Nuggets playoff series, Denver picking
up the one seventeen to ninety one on Friday night,
cutting Minnesota series lead to two games to one. Jamal
Murray and Nikola Jokic each scoring twenty four points for day.

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
For Jokic was one assists. Shy of a triple double.

Speaker 16 (01:41:03):
Anthony Eellward to court nineteen points, but did commit five
turnovers for the t Wolves, Indiana overcame a nine point
fourth quarter deficit they defeated the Knicks one eleven to
one oh six. Tare's Halliburton a game high thirty five
points and Andrew Nimhar hitting the go ahead three points
are late. New York's lead in that series is two
to one, and the NHL Edmonton defeated Vancouver in overtime

(01:41:23):
four to three, tying the series at a game apiece.
Florida a two to one series edge over Boston after
they picked up a six to two win in Being
Town and baseball padre started. Michael King didn't factor into
the decision, but at a great outing when seven innings
allow one run and struck out eleven in a two
to one victory over the Dodgers. New addition, Luis a
rise at walkoff single for San Diego. There three hits

(01:41:44):
for Willia Damas as the Brewers hammered the Cardinals eleven
to two. Colorado defeated the Rangers four to two. It's
the first time this season the Rockies have one consecutive
games victories for the Phillies, Yankees, and the Braves.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
Back to Bernie Fraddo.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
All right, Kevin, appreciate you, Bud, all right, this time
every week on the Bernie Fratter Show. Well, you know,
on the field, off the field, on the pitch, off
the pitch, pitch in season, on a season, doesn't matter.
There's always plenty of news in Christ Prophet's world of soccer.

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama. It's
all here in this report from the world of soccer.

Speaker 7 (01:42:34):
So Bernie.

Speaker 30 (01:42:35):
As we all know, the Phoenix Suns have fired their
head coach, Frank Vogel.

Speaker 7 (01:42:39):
Yes, this is a world of soccer.

Speaker 30 (01:42:41):
But let me recount a story for you, because I
was asked by someone in the Fox Sports Radio studios
building about the idea that of how fast Frank Vogel
got fired. How fast managers are now getting fired in
the NBA. The question was posed to me knowing that
I knew a lot about European soccer, and there was
kind of this idea that a lot of Europeans soccer

(01:43:01):
clubs do tend to run through their managers and coaches
rather quickly. It is the symptom of a sport much
like soccer, where organizations make a lot of personnel decisions
that carry a lot of heavy monetary value, and when
those fail to perform, the easiest person to fire at
the end of the day is the coach.

Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
Is the manager. It's usually the easiest fall guy.

Speaker 30 (01:43:27):
And even in Europe, the bar for getting fired can
only be a rank few number of games where you're
just off your game, the team looks listless, and before
you know it, you're halfway into the season and the
manager is getting sacked. Even the great ones like Jose
Mourinho and Carlos and Silotti, recognize as some of the

(01:43:49):
best managers in the game right now, have close to
ten different I think it's like nine for Jose Mourinho
jobs on their resume, because they just keep getting fired.
Even the successful ones they're lucky if they last three
or four years.

Speaker 7 (01:44:04):
And if you want to see the idea of.

Speaker 30 (01:44:06):
Just getting fired within a single calendar year, look at
the club Chelsea in England and how many managers they
went through, especially under their former owner Roman Abramovich, who
is very famous, to just fire managers at the drop
of the hat. It's easy to do, it's an easy scapegoat,
and the bar for the next guy in isn't very high.

(01:44:29):
All you got to do is belt out like a
three game, three match win streaker, so people will suddenly
start to love you until that next offseason rolls around,
and until that next season hits, and suddenly the bar
is reset and you could be out the door very
quick yourself. To be honest, I don't know how healthy
it is if a manager or a coach can never

(01:44:51):
settle in in a given spot. How healthy it is
that any given playoff series or European tournament or five
games match stretch suddenly can determine the fate of your organization.
There is something to be said about stability, and if
that stability is being deprived, then I don't know what
we really do. And I worry for the NBA as

(01:45:11):
much as I worry for soccer sometimes. In that regard,
we do have a set final for the UEFA Champions
League and some big news from a player. First off, though,
congratulations to Bayer Leaferkusen. They've already sewn up the Bundesliga title.
They now have a forty nine match unbeaten streak, drawing
two to two with Roma and securing their place four

(01:45:34):
to two on aggregate, could go to the Europa League
finals in UEFA, which is the second tier, so I
want to shout out them. Leverkusen is having a season
for the ages in Germany. But yes, this past week
we had the finals punched, and let's start with football royalty.
Let's start with Real Madrid. Real Madrid and Bayern Munich

(01:45:56):
both came into this game drawn even on aggregate. This
was the winner all game and with an e with
a goal shortly after halftime by Alfonso Davies I believe
in the sixty eighth minuts. So it looked like Munich
was going to be coasting even steven On here a
chance to play for Champions League crown even if their

(01:46:16):
Bundesliga crown is denied. But instead, somehow an explosion from
Real Madrid as joselu came out and scored two goals
late in this game, first in the eighty eighth minute
to draw even, and then in stoppage time in about
the ninety first minute another strike, sending the Germans home
and propelling Real Madrid to yet another Champions League final.

(01:46:40):
These are the only things you kind of expect with
Real Madrid, and to be honest, it is a choke
job for the ages for Bayern Munich and their newly
acquired Harry Kane, who just some really ticki tak defense
really being played there to chance to have the bus part.

Speaker 7 (01:46:57):
Home and they just let it go, it go. You
hate to see it.

Speaker 30 (01:47:02):
But while Bayern Munich disappointed for Germany, Borussia Dortmund joined
their fellows at Leverkusen in bringing home some German glory.
Now Borussia had a one goal aggregate head on Paris
Saint Germain, but this game was going to be played
in Paris. This seemed like a last gasp for a
club that has been trying for so long to go

(01:47:23):
for European glory, and it just was not to be.
Paris Saint Germain looked listless out there. They didn't look
like they knew what they were doing. A single goal
by Matts Hummels for the Germans made sure on aggregate
two nil, Barussia Dortmund advancing to play Real Madrid here.
And if you think you had a long wait between

(01:47:44):
the week off between the Championship weekend and the Super Bowl,
we have to now wait until June first at Wembley Stadium,
where Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund will square off. However,
it is a is a feast for the eye. We'll
be talking about this in the months to come. Borussia
is a fascinating, fascinating squad. But the big news this

(01:48:06):
week came out of Paris Saint Germain, out of the
losing locker room. As Killian and Bope put to rest
what we finally knew was going to happen. He send
out a video addressing the Parisian faithful. He said that
this would be his last year at Paris Saint Germain.
He said quote, I will not extend and the adventure
will come to an end in a few weeks. I
will play my last game at Park de Prince's on Sunday.

(01:48:31):
This coming Sunday, your last chance to watch Killingimbappe wearing
the Blue of Powers Saint Germain, saying that he had
a great honor to be part of the biggest French club.
France is his country, of course, and a move. However,
expected killing Embape to be a free transfer over to
Real Madrid, a club he has been wanting to play

(01:48:51):
for his entire life. However, it's clear that this club
and the city of Paris remains deep in his heart.

Speaker 7 (01:48:58):
So that's it.

Speaker 30 (01:48:59):
You'll get one more game out of killing Himbape playing
for PSG here on Sunday, and then what comes next
the adventure of a lifetime, and it'll be something fun
to keep us busy here on the world of soccer
as we speculate where the big Man, the next great
could truly end up.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Imagine that in Boppe ending up somewhere else. I don't
think I've ever seen a more talented human being on
the pitch than Inmbappe. And there's a name again, Jose Mourinho.
Google him. He is the soccer version of Bill Belichick.
Trust me, you'll want to know Chris Purfetts World of Soccer.
Coming up, we wrap up the Bernie Fradle Show and
we welcome in a special guest You're gonna love It

(01:49:41):
rhymes with Arnie Spaniard and body. We get a lot
to talk about with him. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're coming
to life from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tirat dot
com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie
Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're wrapping
it up on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio,
coming to live from the tyrat dot com studios here
in Las Vegas. For I go any further, I want

(01:50:03):
to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles. He
and Roddy, great job on the phones tonight, a crazy
midnight hour. Incredible. Mark Ramsey are technical producer, turning all
the dolls, keeping us food together of course. Kevin Figgers,
who's your daddy? The new father? Great job on the
updates as always. All right, when you need a big
hitting the bottom of the ninth, there's one man you
go to. The legend. It rhymes with Arnie span Your Arnie.

(01:50:27):
How are you doing tonight, Buddy?

Speaker 5 (01:50:28):
Good tonight? Good morning. I don't even know what it is, bro,
What do you say on this shift? Is it good morning?
Because we're East Coast Morning driver?

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
What I think I do the Jim Carrey thing, good morning,
good evening, good night, and remember that movie The Truman Show. Something. Yeah,
absolutely so, Arnie, you couldn't have picked a better night.
And by the way, you'll be sitting in for the
great Anthony Gargano coming up real treat for the folks.

Speaker 6 (01:50:50):
And Jason Fitz don't forget about him.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
Come on, Irony. The irony here is interesting because you're
following me, and then later on tonight, on Saturday Night,
I'll be following you and Jason Martin. What are the
odds it's.

Speaker 5 (01:51:03):
Just gonna be twenty four hours of Bernie and Arnie
round the clock on the weekend something like that.

Speaker 7 (01:51:08):
How about that?

Speaker 6 (01:51:08):
Anything to talk about tonight, Bernie or what?

Speaker 19 (01:51:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
You know, we were able to come up with a
thing or two. But first, your next state are your Knicks.
You're so close your thoughts, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:51:20):
Being a Knicks fan.

Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
You start off the game before it even starts, you're like, okay,
we'll just give this one.

Speaker 6 (01:51:25):
We know we're not gonna win. It's not gonna be close.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
And you know, as the game starts, you see Brunson
is lumping around. You're like Okay, enough, we're not gonna
win this game. Might as well put him on the bench.
Let's rest up for the next game, which is like
I think they play like double headers now. They don't
even give you like two three days rest now, and
then the next day in the game, all of a sudden,
you're only down by like five at halftime, you make

(01:51:50):
a move in the third, you're like, okay, let's steal
this one. And then you get to the fourth and
I'm not gonna cry about the officiating, but it went
in their favor this time, and that's the way I to.
The Knicks got the calls in the first two games,
Pacers got the call in Game three, so they win
it two to one.

Speaker 6 (01:52:07):
It's gonna be a good series.

Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
I'm really bummed out that Og is not gonna probably
be able to play in Game four, so and Brunson
is just limping around out there. It's gonna be tough.
I love to end this. This is a perfect situation too,
because the Celtics ended up losing the Cleveland everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:52:25):
Felt that was gonna be a four game sweep.

Speaker 5 (01:52:27):
If they could drag that on too least six games,
that helps the Knicks get some rest, so I'm hoping
they can pull it out tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Celtic culture. Man, they're fifteen and fifteen at home in
the last four years during the playoffs five and eight.
Jason Tatum, pull yourself a big old glasses. Shut up, juice.
We no one expects you to beat people by twenty
every night. But when you have that kind of performance
and you're completely outplayed by the under man Cleveland Cavaliers,
we can call out your performance.

Speaker 5 (01:52:54):
Yeah, you know, I like Jason Tatum. He made a
couple of good points. They're not a super team. There's
just two of them. It's Tatum and Brown and that's
that's who really all it is. And that's not a
super team out there. But what I love about Jason
Tatum at least to answer the questions, he doesn't give
you attitude like Lebron, like a d like Jamal Murray,

(01:53:15):
give an attitude after doing something wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:53:18):
All the attitude out there.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Well, I gotta tell you, though, there's something about that
Celtic team that rubs me the wrong way. They kind
of strut around like they've won two or three titles
and they haven't won Buckus. But Arnie, I want to
get to the real topics tonight because we had a
Rockets midnight hour. We talked about a couple of things.
Do you think you could drop thirty NBA players into
an NFL game and no problem? Just show up, show out?

(01:53:42):
I took great homage to that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
No, I think he can. I really do. Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
The collision sport.

Speaker 5 (01:53:50):
No disrespect to rich Ornberger and Schwartz and those guys,
but I mean to be alignman, you just gotta be big.
Come on now, I mean, heck, if I was the
three hundred and fifty pounds, I'd be in the NFL. Yeah,
you could take these guys. They're very athletic. You could
put him in the NFL. But you can't put the
NFL guys in the NBA so much. You know, though,

(01:54:12):
I did have. I remember interviewing t O once Terrell Owens,
and I straight out asked him. I said, if you
didn't get into the NFL, would you have been able
to play in the NBA. He said, I would have
started in the NBA probably averaged about ten to twelve.

Speaker 6 (01:54:25):
Points a game.

Speaker 5 (01:54:25):
And he was being serious because I and I know
we had good game. I know he played in college too,
so he really thought he could play, And maybe he could.

Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
Who knows, but I heard he had a lot of talent.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
I interviewed him once. He said, my quarterback, that's my quarterback. Well,
I think it's sassinine. The NBA is a contact board.
The NFL is a high speed collision sport. I get
the run and jump athleticism. They hand that coordination. But
you drop an NBA player into one full contact scrimmage one,
you tell me if they show up the next day.

Speaker 5 (01:54:55):
I got They said Lebron was a heck of a
football player in high school that way, what did he
play outs?

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
I'd flop Jesus all right, Arnie. I want to get
to the other thing too, because the Brady roast has
come and gone. I think it was a huge success,
although if you read Sally Jenkins in the Washington Post
in a New York people have varying opinions. But you've
always heard me say the opposite of hate is not love,
it's indifferent. So people cared enough. I'm ready for another roast.

(01:55:23):
The question is who's next? Who would you pay to
see roasted? We compiled a hell of a list. We
must have had twenty callers my choice, I would pay
to see Bill Belichick roasted. Who would you pay to
see roasted? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:55:36):
Bill Belichick is when that comes to the top of
the list. Charles Barkley, I think on the list, yep,
that would be a good one too. Shock is very
thin skinned, so I think I would like to go
ahead and see Shack roast. Are we just talking strictly
athletes now or what?

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
Yeah? Pretty much because we're in the sports world. Although
one person wanted Donald Trump roasted, and my producer pointed
out he was roasted back in twenty twelve.

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
Well, kick Kardashian would be fantastic. I mean, I think
of all the jokes and how long that would go
on for.

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
I don't think she could handle it. Yeah, I don't
think she could.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Guy wanted Antonio o'bron and said, hell, he'll take off
his shirt in the middle of it. Run out of
the run out of the arena. Let me run some
of these names by These are just classic. Aaron Rodgers'
name came up multiple times. That'd be a beauty.

Speaker 5 (01:56:21):
Come on, I'd love to see that, I really would.
I think that'd be hysterical. You know you're you're talking
about some of the big names out there. I just
one one off to like this, completely outside the box.
I don't know why I'm thinking about this, but the
but the umpire Angel Angel Hernandez.

Speaker 6 (01:56:38):
Oh my god, I'm just thinking.

Speaker 5 (01:56:40):
Could you imagine if the baseball players got the roast
him for a couple of hours.

Speaker 6 (01:56:44):
How funny would that be?

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
Huh? It'd be funny for us, not for you. How
about Jerry Jones his name came up.

Speaker 6 (01:56:51):
Yeah, that'd be fantastic.

Speaker 19 (01:56:52):
Guy.

Speaker 6 (01:56:53):
Jerry could take it too. He's he's very thick skin.
I think he'd be able to. I think he'd love
it too.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
Here's a good one on Sanders.

Speaker 6 (01:57:01):
Yeah, Dion, I mean, don't we roast them anyway?

Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
Well yeah, yeah, true, it's like it's been going on
for years now now.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
One that I think is very realistic and he'd probably
do it. Peyton Manning your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (01:57:15):
Yeah, you know, but Peyton is always self deprecating anyway,
so I think it would be very funny. There'd be
some good jokes in there, and you know, going after
him and the family. So yeah, that's a natural one.
I think a lot of people would love to see
that too.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
Here's one that came up early on Phil Mickelson.

Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
Phil Michaelson. Yeah, he'd be funny.

Speaker 5 (01:57:36):
Off, there is tons, especially with the gambling stuff and.

Speaker 6 (01:57:41):
And all kinds.

Speaker 5 (01:57:42):
I mean, yeah, he'd be a lot, especially for a golfer.
He'd be a lot of fun. I guess you could
throw Tiger Woods in there too.

Speaker 7 (01:57:47):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Tiger made the list, so did Lance Armstrong. How about
that one, Floyd?

Speaker 5 (01:57:52):
Yeah, you know, Lance Trumpstruck's kind of out of the news.
I don't know how funny that would be. People like,
who is this guy again?

Speaker 7 (01:57:58):
I forgot?

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
You know what I mean? Well, I think the recurring
theme is people wanted to see these luminary squirm and
reduce to human size and right maybe perhaps own up
to some of their foibles. I mean there was some
there were some really really incredible names that they made
to listen. Finally, of course, lebron never happened in a
million years.

Speaker 6 (01:58:17):
No, no, never, never, But I would love to see
it though.

Speaker 5 (01:58:20):
Could you imagine all the flak he'd be taken out there?
Oh it'd be I mean, we give him flack anyway.
I mean we're gonna be talking about him and BRONI
with the Lakers next year. Gee, I want how that
could you? I wish I was Lebron's kid. My goodness,
I'd be playing for the Lakers. Unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (01:58:36):
How that's worth.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
I still play for the Lakers anyway, probably still use it.
The need them outside shooters. Arnie, you're coming up here
in about seven minutes. What do you got for the
audience today?

Speaker 6 (01:58:44):
Everything?

Speaker 5 (01:58:45):
I mean, four hours of my New York Knicks I
gotta feel and I'm really I'm bummed out about that.
And we'll go through that and Carllyle and the other series,
the Boston series. We'll talk about Brunson. I still got
to get the Pat Beverly, Jamal Murray. We got everything going.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
On today, Ernie, Pat Beverley, Yeah, four whole games. Hope
we can hold up. Arnie, have a great sugar night
you too, all right. That is the legend known as
Arnie Spaniel. You'll catch him up here at about six minutes.
So that's gonna do it for the Bernie Frattle Show.
I will be back on these airwaves tonight at eleven
pm Pacific as usually. We're gonna have a full dock
at the NBA playoffs are raging. Who's gonna be the

(01:59:21):
Lakers next coach. It ain't gonna be Lebron. Stop with that.
You can't do it with the CBA. Plenty of stuff.
More betting on Caitlin Clark keep it locked up. Next
the great Arnie Spanier, Fox Sports Radio,

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