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May 8, 2024 34 mins

Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental health podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. While you are listening to this podcast, I am in Italy getting married to the love of my life Rosie Tenison. Waiting 54 years for my soulmate is proof that it’s never too late to true find love. Enjoy a very special encore presentation of Part 1 with Rosie!!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast.
Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer today with a very special show and
encore show if you will. But before that, if you're
like many people, you may be surprised to learn that
one in five adults in this country experienced mental illness
last year. Yet far too many fella will receive the
support they need. Carolyn baverel Elk is doing something about it.
They understand that behavioral health is a key part of

(00:36):
poll l delivering compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional,
and social needs in tandem. Carolyn Beaviriel Health raising the
quality of life through empathy and action. Welcome into Unbreakable,
a mental wealth podcast with Jay Glazer. And this week
I'm actually getting married while you're listening to this.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I am in Italy.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I am fifty four years old, fondly found my true love,
showing everybody it's never too late to find love.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Earlier in the year, I did.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
A podcast with my beautiful Now I think by this
time wife Rosie Tennyson, you may know her from the
Tennyson Twins. She and her sister have done a lot
in the early days of modeling. Broke color barriers. Sister
Brooke color Barrier Playboy become the first ever black Playmate
of the Year. Rosie was the first black cover model
for Roderick J' Hollywood. But Rosie and I found love

(01:26):
in a much later time in life, and we've got
to do a lot of work on ourselves to get
to this moment. So with that, I want an on
core performance here. It's part one of my podcast with
my now wife. Can't believe I'm saying that Rosie Tennyson
and I hope you all could take a lot of
the lessons that we've learned to be able to get

(01:48):
to this point and we could all walk this walk together.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
This is the most special guest I've ever had on
in my entire life. The way this came about is wonderful.
People over at Fox Sports Radio and a lot of
people out there have said, man, we have never seen
you better, We've never seen a better version of Jay Glazer.
And I said, well, Rosie's really the reason why my

(02:11):
beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson, She's why and you know, I finally,
after all these years, found a partner who could really
lift me up and I feel comfortable and safe for
the first time in my life.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
And they said, great, let's get Rosie and.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
I said, no, now, now, I'm not getting Rosie on,
Absolutely not. And they said, do you know how many
people you can help and give hope to if the
two of you came on and just talked about not
only Rosie's life, which is unbelievable, like she's the reality
show of all reality shows and the success story of
success stories for all little girls out there trying to
make it, but also just the hope that we can

(02:46):
give people that it's never too late to find love,
and also to give people insight into what she does
to help me when my crazy gets out of control,
when my gray gets really dark and deep, what she
does help lift me up and to be.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
There for me. So I am this better version. So
this is for.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Don and Scott and Horiy and Justin and everybody else
out there who has said this is the best version
of Jay Glaziers that they've seen. Everybody, Welcome my beautiful
fiance Rosie Tennyson.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Introduction.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
It is quite the introduction and move up to Rosie
now here.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
What we're going to do here, right, we are going
to go into rosie story, then we're going to go
into our story, and then we're going to go into
a lot of the things that Rosie's done.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
To help me.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Before we do that, we'll leave them with one good
I think lesson here because it's the holiday times, and
holiday times can get really difficult for a lot of people.
So for everyone out there, for your spouse, your boyfriend,
or your girlfriend, or your child or whatever it is,
I think a good lesson we could start off with
is you know I posted something a few weeks ago

(03:56):
that I was really struggling and I was really in
a dark place.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And what I tend to do folks my whole life,
and I.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Did this with Rosie is I because I never felt
worthy of this kind of love that Rosie has with me.
I have always tended to sabotage, to push everyone away
because the pain of knowing it's going to go away
an end is worse than it actually ending.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
The fear of ending is more painful for me than
an ending, So I speed up that end sabotage. I
like to sabotage.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I like to do things to make sure it goes away,
and I've done that with Rosie and I sometimes continually
do it with Rosie.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
And the last time I did that to you, your
answer to me was what.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
I just told you, Hey, look, I'm not going anywhere,
no matter what happens here, how you're feeling, I'm going
to be here for you, because I knew you were
like just thinking the worst thoughts, but I was assuring
you that, you know what, it's just I'm not going anywhere,
because in that immediately put you at ease.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
But you also convinced me of it.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, yeah, other people may say it, so like convince
your partner like as bad as you make feel right now,
I'm not going anywhere, I promise you.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
That was the other thing. You made a promise. I
promise I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
And I said I had your back and I wasn't
going anywhere, and you immediately like was like oh okay,
and it like calmed you down and then we were
able to go from there. But I think when someone's
like feeling that way, and you're feeling like like you
know someone's gonna bowld, you're like in one of those nudes.
The worst thing you could do was like pull away,
because then it's only going to make the person feel

(05:36):
more like yeah, validate my validate your feelings, and then
more worried, and then it just keeps spiraling. But the
best thing you could do is just reassure them and
have their back, which that's what I always try and
do when when that happens.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
And the other great thing you did was when we
do this a lot of times we'd feel so ashamed
that we do this, and Rosie then assured me in
like ten minutes like, oh, I'm over it, I'm done,
Like we're fine, We're good, right.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
You were beating yourself up, like he beats himself up
over this stuff, and I'm like literally like, I'm like, don't, don't,
like I give him forgiveness and I get over quick.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
I'm not holding a grudge. I'm not bringing it up.
I'm not. I'm like, hey, like you realize it's my
own pain.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I don't mean it.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yeah, no, I know. And also too, I don't want
you beat yourself up way more than I do, even
if it's something that in you know, so like I
think sometimes you get in that what But I'm like, hey, man,
let's forget about let's go on a walk, let's go
let's go to the beach, or let's go do just
break up the I try and break up the cycle
the cycle, which is really a great thing to do
because then all of a sudden, instead of like one

(06:39):
day it was happening and you I was like, hey,
let's go to cross Creek and kick the dogs or whatever.
And then immediately, like within like twenty minutes, like we
were fine and everything was good. But what you can
you can either go further into it or you can
do something that breaks up the pattern. And then it
just made a great day.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
So instead of just telling me, hey, I got your back,
I'm not going anywhere, she didn't just walk away. She
then said let's go do something. Let's go like she
she proved to me she wasn't going anywhere. Yeah, and
that that's a lifesaver.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
So you were throwing a pity party. You were like
get a little pity party of.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Major pity party, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
And I was like, hey, a maoun this pity party
is you know, you could stay in it, but I'm not.
I was like I'm actually going to go to the
Cross Creek.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
And let's like, you're coming with me.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
You're coming with me, and let's break this pity party
up and let's go do something like like to get
your mind off, I said, And if you want to
talk about the problem when we get back, we can
talk about it later. But you didn't even care, like
like the big that had happened. I remember what it was,
but by then we just had like moved on. And
she was really good. A good thing to do when
someone's like feeling that way.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
But the other thing she did that night because the
shame doesn't go away, and she realized that about me,
so she gave me extra hugs that night.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
She gave me extra love that night.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
She really went above and beyond to show me she's
not harboring any of these ill feelings because you start
thinking yourself, oh.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
They're just acting like everything's good.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
But then they're going to leave and she's going to
use this against me.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
She's going to use this against me, right, And you
made sure that I knew that it was real. And
I haven't had one of those sins, No, right, I
haven't had one.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
But every time I've had one that was a bad one,
and that wasn't too long ago, but well, no, I
know I have one Thanksgiving a week I got triggered,
right And then that night you said to me, what
else do you need for me?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
And I said, I just need some campassion.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I just need you, I actually said her, I just
need you to feel bad for me right now, said okay,
I got you, and.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Just didn't try and coach me up. And because Rosie
does coach me up a lot, which is amazing.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
And sometimes you're in the mood for it, and sometimes
you're not. Sometimes you're just like, hey, I just want
to sit in this and have my you know, I
want to just be in it because you're always, like
a lot of time during your fixer, you're trying to
give them positive things and this and that, and sometimes
people just they just want to talk. They don't want
to they don't want a solution, they just want to
get it off their chest. And that's okay too. Yeahs
I's going to turn your pity party.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
So all right, with that said, for everybody out there
going into holidays, know that about your partner, especially if
they're gonna go see family that triggers them again.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
The holiday times are hard.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
So a lot of times your significant other may be
triggered by family, or triggered by certain things or past
lowliness or lowliness and the holidays, or you know, we
tend to feel miss maybe misloved once. But just understand
that something else is triggering them, and make sure you
don't run away, shame them. Do what Rosie's done, Lean

(09:33):
into them more, be that teammate that they need. Really
show them I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
What do you need from me right now? And make
sure they do that for you when you need it
as well. Right now. That was just a little, a little,
a little appetizer here for what we're gonna do here now.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Rosie's story is incredible.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
It is incredible, and I guess I mean you could
I jump in. I tell her story as much as
she does. But Rosier grew up in Idaho, Okay with
an identical twin sister, So Rosier, let me just give
it a little background. Rosie and her sister Renee were the
Doublemint Twins and the double Bit commercial. Rosie was on

(10:16):
Prices right as a showcase Shu girl. She was fourteen
years near the face of Frederick Frenches of Hollywood. She
was on the very first ESPN two show. I don't
if you guys remember the show called flex Appeal. The
girl limbed Piana and they would have these workouts in
the beach in like his clumsiest little clothes and all
those dudes you see out in the morning and watch
his show on ESPN two. Rosie was on Flexippel for years,

(10:39):
and she and her sister also did Playboy together. Her
sister was the first ever black play Maybe of the Year.
So she was a pioneer.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
And that's the whole crazy short we'll get into here,
but all this she grew.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Up where I grew up in a really small town
called Melbo, Idaho. And it's like a super super super
small town. It's got like three hundred people in the
whole town. We grew up on a farm out like
little out in the middle of nowhere and three hundred.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
People, like only two black people.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, there's no like Idaho. There was like no
like like it was just very like the whole state
like was just just a handful of Africa because they
all knew each other. And by sister, I grew up
on a farm. It's on top of that. The Snakeover
Canyon's actually beautiful, really really pretty. But like literally there's
in the middle of the middle of nowhere in this
little trailer house.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
A little trailer house with seven of you in it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
We had a three older brothers, yeah, then my half brother. Yeah,
so it was like it was a pretty full house.
But we were always like getting into trouble and stuff
like that on a farm because it was just there's
nothing to do, so you just go out and get
mischievous and it's a fun place to go.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I went to their town and there was was there
stop light.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I don't know if there's a stop like right stop.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Not a stoplight, Okay, so stop side, not a stoplight.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
I don't remember stoplight. I remember two bars and that's
about it. And gas station in your high school. But
talk about growing up as hard.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
Of them, Yeah, it was our parents. Like my dad
was African American, my mom's was Caucasian, and so like
when they got married in the fifties, it wasn't legal
for a black man to marry a white woman, so
they had to go to uh Nevada and come back
and like get married, and I remember growing up like
my mom like she's got.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, by the way, let's just stop throw the way.
It was illegal. This wasn't too long ago.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
No, it's like that.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It was illegal.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, it was illegal.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
In state, so they had to go to another state,
which is just buggle.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, it was. It was definitely crazy. But my dad
was a farmer and we grew up on a farm
and they were you know married, which was very unusual
for that to happen in that time. But I remember
my sister and I would go out like with my
mom and like people would be like, oh my gosh,
you know, these little daughters are cute. You you babysitting
and she'd say, no, they're mine. These people were just

(12:57):
like look at her, like, oh my god, you's up
with the black bron It was like crazy, and so
like they would immediately like, you know, look at her
and go the other way. But so it was like
something that was interesting that happened a lot there. But
it was just a like that my parents probably experienced
it more than my sister and I did, but so
you experienced.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
It, but you two were just so forgiving of everyone,
and like in school, you got in trouble and what
they do.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Well, we would we were always doing like little like
getting in doing a little bit. They would like make
you put your nose on like a little piece of
tape and then they would march the school around like
to show like the kids that were being bad, like.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
What No, But they didn't do it to the white things.
They did it to YouTube.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Like there might have been some in there we were
because forgiving.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, they didn't do it to the white kids. They
did it to the two black girls. And you were
always like, it's trouble.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I'm sure a lot of people probably trouble, but they
didn't stick your nose on the flagpole and march around
that and taught them so. But also you know, listen
when I look up to roads about so much is
you guys know how hard I work? You want to
talk about work ethic, talk about what your schedule was
growing up?

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, so my sister and I like we like were
on a farm, so there you would do like talking
cornhoween beats all this stuff. But we were also in track,
so we like no hard work because we would get
up before we went to work and we would before
we went to school and we would go like like
home beats and then go to work and top.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Farm it is such hard in the morning. Yeah, and
then and then we would go. We might even come
like jogging up with our hose because we were like
going to kill two birds with one stone. So we
were just like like we were kind of crazy, but
we we would do that because that's what you know,
growing up on a farm. We do a lot of
hard work. And so like I saw, so it's like
four thirty in the morning to seven thirty in the morning. Yeah,

(14:55):
and then we were not we'll be able to get
up because you have to get up kind of really
to get there. I think we'd work a few hours.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
In the go to school and then that's insane. It's
like growing up as how much do you get paid?

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Not a lot.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
It was more a dollar or something that I think
my dad kept it, so we didn't.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
So I took your money and didn't get to have it.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
But but my sister and I stood up for ourselves
after a while, we're like, wait a second, we want
our money. So it was a lot.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
But and then you also you run. You were we
were stay in track.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah, we were, we were we were track. We did
like hurdles. I did hurdles long job I which stayed. Yeah,
so it was fun. We really track stars.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, so you got it from the more when you
worked these fields to top Corn and who Beach for
three hours, your dad took your money and then you
went to work, then you went to track track and
then you came home late at night.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, that's that's again, that's just a different level.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
But I would come about YouTube and again her sister Renee,
if you looked them up, the tennis and twins, when
I said they were difficult, they are I ditical. Rosie
parked her hair on the side. Renee parked her hair
in the middle, so you could tell the difference. And
that's it. And that's sometimes we're all hanging out and
I'll grab the wrong hand and when they will just

(16:06):
go wrong.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
One Kappa wrote the wrong butts or the wrong one.
They look exactly the same, and they were.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
The same, the same high, same weight.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Remember they they talked the same They say the same
similar paragraphs at the same time. They're kind of always
fighting for ever time, so they're saying same paragraphs at
the same time. But it's beautiful that you guys have
always had each other lean on all these years where
again you grew up in poverty, you grew up where
you had to work harder than newbody I've ever known
at that age. But you have each other and it

(16:39):
kind of I love the story of you guys kind
of be able to put your arm around.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Each other and having early goals about what's going to be. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
I remember we lived on the top of the saber Caunyon,
which is really beautiful, and we would sit there and
we'd see these cars like driving at night and my
sister and I we didn't know how and we didn't
know what was going to happen, but we would always say,
we're going to get off this farm and we're going
to go to Barnia be models. And we just were
like always streaming, always thinking about that. We just were
just like we're gonna somehow, some way, we're gonna because

(17:07):
we knew we were like to you know, we're like
we're too big for this farm. We don't want to
be on this farm, Like this is like this isn't us.
So we were just like dreaming when we were little girls.
We'd always like think about that and then if that's
eventually what happened. We put it out to the universe,
and years later that was we did end up moving
to la and becoming models.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
So well, now before that, let's talk about how so, Rosie,
you went to Boise State, which is that itself? Yeah,
I did good getting yourself in the state, saying for yourself.
So having this hard work and you're working at album, I.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Observe not even it wasn't as glamorous as the grocery
store Obersons. I was actually in the warehouse for Albertson's,
and I was like packing these boxes and stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Really work of the conveyor belt and the.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Conveyor belt and gentlemen, not a grocery store and glamorous.
I was filling these boxes and all that. It was
like night at night till six in the morning. So
it was night shifts too, like forty or fifty hours
a week.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
And at this time, your sister she.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Was dating this guy who was like, he was really
into Playboy and he was they were looking they had
this contest and they were looking for this thirty fifth
anniversary playmate. So he's like, you're really you know, you
could be a playmate. You should send your pictures in
so she sends your pictures into this contest and like
they get like thousands, probably fourteen thousand entries, and out

(18:25):
of those fourteen thousand entries, they picked twelve to become
to test to be playmates, and helf when hers came through,
writes PMOY, which means Playmate of the Year, And they
had never picked an African American or girl or black
girl to be Playmate of the Year ever, So it's
kind of a big deal when when you know, this
came through and it was like around the time, like
Venessa Williams and all this stuff. So she ends up

(18:47):
like flying to lam Yeah, Naomi Campbell time, like you know,
it was around that time. Yeah, not Tyra yet but
kind of similar, but Naomi and Benefa and all those guys.
So she ends up you know, shooting for that and
then hef does end up picking her, which was a
huge deal because he had never like he just broke
the collar barrier. It was like she was on Oprah

(19:09):
and CNN and everyone was just like you can Everyone's
like a lot of people are saying you can't pick her,
this isn't fair because she's black, and he's like, it's
what's not fair is that it took us this long
to actually pick one. That's what's not fair, so that
it was just really cool because there are certain people
in your lives that change your destiny, and that was
like one for us that because of that choice, that

(19:29):
changed my life. My sister's like my family's life. But
you are and you show yeah, actually, I yeah, this
is the part of the story where Tef wanted. Actually
my sister and I both depose because he's like, oh
my god, there's twins. Of course this is great. So me,
being shy at the time, I was like, oh no, no,
you know, I'm like kind of shy, but you go
do this and we'll see how it goes, you know.

(19:51):
So then she ends up when you play maybe the Earth,
he gets like one hundred thousand dollars, she gets all
the spade, she gets a car, she gets all this stuff.
And then I meanwhile, I know it. Everybody knows what
I look like naked from your sister, my twin sister.
I did nothing. You know, I'm still over there at
the Albert SAIDs warehouse.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Also, you're at the Alberson's warehouse and you're you see, yeah,
you pack. Yeah, her Playboys into the covert Belt, into
boxing and stuff like.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
But I was just like, I was the wrong choice here.
I should have like, you know, I should have done it.
But yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Ends up moving out to La into the Playboy mansion
because she becomes friends with Hugh Heffer's wife.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Kimber Kimberly.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yes, so Kimberly kind of around the show. Wasn't the
Hugh Heffler that we all have.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Seen these was running a tight ship Kimberly run a
tight ship. Yeah, But Hugh Heffner calls Rosie and says, Rosie.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
This was actually this was later in life because this
was like later down the line, because he always was like,
you know, wanting us to pose together, but I never
did so. But then he he's. My sister sees him
at a party one time and he comes after her
and he hands with this piece of and it says
Tennis and twins, and he says, I want you two
to pose in the magazine together. I've always wanted you
to to pose. I'll fly you anywhere in the world

(21:07):
if you two will do this pictorial together.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
So my sister like, say, a, Rosie, everybody knows you
take it ready, you might as well get face for it, right,
he's your sister.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
And I had been modeling and stuff by then, for like,
you know, I wasn't shy anymore, so I was like,
you know what, let's do it. So it was like
really full because we went to Cuba.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well wait, wait, let's not throw that away. Let's not
throw it away.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Rosie still kind of you know, not all in, says sure, Cuba,
I'll do it. If you did send me to Cuba
under for Deel Castro, knowing that it's not going to happen, right.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
And QF there is like done?

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Has these two on a plane to Cuba under for
deel Castro, which is supposed to be a ten day shoot, right, yeah,
and talk about what happened there.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Well, it's beautiful. It was a really cool place to
shoot because at that time it wasn't you know, it hadn't.
There was not a lot of you know, photo shoots
or anything there. But it's full. It's just a really great,
amazing place to shoot. But it's like a time warp.
It's like in the fifties, like they got old cars
and like these billboards and stuff like that, so you
literally feel like you're in the fifties, Sam and like

(22:15):
you know, like them, and it's just a really weird,
like it's like you've just in a time warp and.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
You said, the thing that stuck out most of you
weren't a lot of eat.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, because they have beautiful beaches, they're
like amazing, but you don't see anybody like fishing and
the beaches or so, which is weird. So like why
isn't anybody fishing And they're like, well, it's because you know,
the fish belonged to Castro's Like it was like that,
Like so it was like kind kind of crazy. Yeah, so,
but the people are amazing and beautiful and it was

(22:46):
really cool until like until he wasn't And then like
all of a sudden that like maybe like a couple
of days before we're supposed to leave, the guys, the
scouts and stuff that we're with, they're kind of like
starting to get a little and see in a little
because like Fidel's like all of a sudden not down
with Playboy being in his country and shooting these.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Cash suddenly does not want the tennis.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Oh my god. They're like, we need to get you
guys out of here because this is like not good.
So my sister and I like we cut our trip
short by two days and I couldn't even sleep.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Get you out.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
I can't remember where we flew out it, but we
cut the trip short. And then maybe so longer I
don't remember. I believe those police, but yeah, and then
we just like cut it short with the pictures like it.
Actually Playboy held it for a while because they were
they didn't because yeah, so they ended up running it
like years later, and uh, we're find a huge fine.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
For we just don't know that.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
So he holds onto these photos of the tennis and
twins for a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Finally post them and whoever the president was at.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
The time, finds million dollars.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
For sending the tennis and twins to Tuba for yeah,
and their Star Wars.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
They're a huge But at the time too, Rosie was
to Renee's living at the mansion, right, and then they
invite you to come out there and live.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yeah, this is my very this is backpack. And when
I first moved to la and I came to visit
Renee and I was over there at Sundry's at Alberson's
working these like really long shifts. So I get there
and I'm like, wait a second, I'm her twin. I
looked just like her. I could I could actually do this.
I could do this modey thing. So I go back.
I quit my job. I'm like, hey, you guys, I'm
out of here. I'm going to move to LA to

(24:35):
be a model, which is what I did. I you know,
I moved there and I went to UH to an agency,
and I was able to get I just took my
sister's photos to go get an agency, you know, because
we look alike. So we're twins.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
So she takes Rene's modelook as her own and gets.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
It, gets an agent. It starts my that's you.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Know, it gets prices right, and I got hot.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
After that.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
You were married with children of flexor Bill and did
all these things, and you guys became iconic black models.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
That gay it was fun. Yeah, we were like, yeah,
we were like we went in the first like right
around the time in Tyrone and yeah there's a lot
like Naomi and Tyra and you know it was fine.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
So so okay, so a couple of things here.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
First of all, when you're living at the mansion, Okay,
what's it like to live at the Playboy Mansion, like
all of us probably thinking, oh my gosh, there's like
orgies every day. This is that, Like, what's it like
to actually live there? How many girls were living.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
There at the time when they when you're testing for
your pictorial that they fly the playmates and were shooting
the pictorial, So there could have been like two or
three girls that were actually shooting testing for the magazine and.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
But then live there.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
No, No, there's no, there's.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
No how many girls live there? Just you and Renee
at that time.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah, there was no other So were the.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Only ones living at the mansion with you? After and
his wife.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Well, we were in the game room, we were in
the other Yeah, we were at state.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Well, well I think all of us they did. There's
like twenty women that are living there and it's happened.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
It wasn't like that. It was like that.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
No, not because he was married at the time with
Kim and Kim was like, you know, it wasn't. I
mean before Kim came along, and maybe after Kim came along,
I I couldn't wasn't like it was with Kim. She
was very you know, protective, and so you couldn't really
you know, get close to it, and we were we
were friends with her, so it was like a different,
different like kind of experience.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
A right, So how crazy were the parties at the mansion?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Parties were kind of crazy, but but I would always
like duck out or jip out, you know before like
the crazy stuff happened, But they were It was fun
because it was like, you know, when you would go
to the mansion, you would actually go out like in lingerie,
like you'd head at your house like where like how
many parties are you going to go? Like to where
you're wearing like lingerie? Some people like some girls didn't
even have anything on. They were just like it was.

(26:46):
It was funny, but it was just a crazy fun.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
How many celeric did you walk in on having sex
with the mansion?

Speaker 5 (26:53):
I mean sister walked in on.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
I think it was Tony Curtis. You was getting it on,
like yeah, he was pretty like pretty old, but he
was like he was getting sound. Then for sure.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
You also do it there was I asked you about
the grotto and you said, there's only one time that
you guys went to the grotto because someone told you
how to see what was going on and you get
right away.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was kind of crazy. That
was I don't know if I want to say.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Said she told me that she's done in the grotto
and Mini me started an orgy there.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
There was like there was like some stuff going on
and you like there were some players in it, but
there's something you want to expect. That was like I laughed.
I was just like wow, But no, I did not
stand not sticking around for that.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
But it wasn't like so the mansion though, it wasn't
a place. But I'm thinking it's just sex, drugs, rack
and roll.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
But when you were living there was a life out
or was it the you know?

Speaker 5 (27:54):
I think it was for people who wanted that if
you were like into that that give you like late
in the nine and stuff like that. What I mean
for YouTube, No, not for us. No, it wasn't like
she had rules for you. Yeah, no, we had rules
you tried to be in a certain time. They were
like uh, boys, boys, they want you drinking or drugs
drinking either.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
No.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Yeah, they were like very I mean they were like
very strict, very strict. So it wasn't like our experience
wasn't like that. And but I do believe it's a
different kind of time at that time because it was Kimberly,
they had kids. So but I do you know that
was I can only speak from my experience, but you know, yeah,
I think it was kind of a crazy place. For sure.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I thought wow too, because I figured, you know, hey, okay,
she was there in the early days. And Rosie and
Now when we first started dating, said okay, look at this,
I've been with certain people.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
You probably know you'd probably been with people.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
I know.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Let's kind of lay our cards on the table. And
Rosie was like, no.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
What did your brother tell you that you never really
went with yeah, musicians or anything.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah. My older brother was like always like you know,
he was he'd always give my sister and I really
good advice. So he's like, hey, you know, you don't
want to be one of those girls who just sleeps
with everybody and you know, and and yeah, so he
was like be you know, don't don't be those don't
be those girls. So it was just good advice. So
my sister he's like, you know, work and do you know,
get your jobs and be respected, and you don't you
don't want to be those girls. So my sister, and

(29:16):
I always knew that. Plus we always had each other,
so we always were always like respected and you know, yeah, well.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
And then also like I got like I do not
like everybody was after Rosy. Everybody Renee was with somebody,
Rosie was single, but like Prince.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Was after you in a big way.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Prince. You gotta tell the friends story.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah he was. And I love Prince, Prince fan, Prince fanatic.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
They were all after like every every actor in Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah, they're probably have a lot of yeah, yeah, but yeah.
So so we go to uh bar one, this play
called bar One, and Prince is there and he's got
there's like foody guards and he's like got this little
orange tipsipop and orange is the only flavor had to
be orange. So he he went to go out.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
So at the time, I you know, I was kind
of fresh from Idaho, so I was very lary of Prince,
you know and figure out and I suit, you know
how he was with you know, Purple Rain. So he
asked me out, and I'm kind of like, I don't know,
I don't know. So I kept saying no, kept saying no,
and he keeps calling, keeps calling. So finally he's like,
you know, okay, so what if I I just take

(30:21):
you and we just drive around the block and you
just go and and like.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
And listen to music, listen to some new music. Would
he wants to try out new music that had.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
You just listen to some new music. So I'm like, okay,
I'll do that. So, so, so he comes over and
this is a limo and what you were I don't
remember what he had on, probably like a little suit
or something, so maybe like the jumpsuits. So he always
had that little outfit that he So, so he takes
you around the block and he says, there's this new album.

(30:51):
It's gonna it's called Diamonds and Pearls. So so like listening.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
To this thing, like so you got to hear a
Diamonds and everybody else.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Think it's gonna be a hit. I think you gotta hit
on your hands here. So so then you know, so
then you know, like.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm that doesn't steal the deal for Prince.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
No, no, no no, because I still wasn't trusting him.
I was, you know, like so so I Prince, I know,
I know, okay, So so I leave and I so
I tried to try to leave, but he's like he says, hey,
He's like, do you want to come back to my
house and I'll make some pancakes. So I'm like, not good,
you know. So that's like a weird thing to say,

(31:29):
you know. So I'm just like whatever, it's a strange
thing to say. So I'm like, no, I'm good. So
I take off. So so then you know, he keeps calling,
keeps calling, and and I.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Let's back out it. So the line was can I
take it back to my house and make you some pancakes? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:43):
So I'm like, no, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
What was your actually he said that though.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
It was you know what I mean, it was it's
strange thing. Strange's like, so I was just like, no,
I'm good. I'm cool. So see, it's like, you know,
and then you know, he keeps calling and and now
I'm just like, you know what, I'm just gonna, you know,
bypass this prince thing altogether. So I panty like maybe
like a month later. This friend of mine is like
a fan.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
By the way, who ever thought a woman would choose glazers?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
It's a hashtag something nobody would ever say.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
No, because I never dated him, and he just kind
of like messed with their heads and all that stuff.
So I was like, nah, I'm not going to go there.
So anyway, so I go to these clubs and I'm like,
I see prints out and I'm with the skirl when
he's a Prince fanatic, and I'm like, oh, wait, God,
I wonder if he's mad, because I you know, I haven't.
It just kind of blew him out of the water.
So when I see him, he like looks over and
he sees me and then he does like this.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Which for people who can't see, he does three snacks.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Three snaps and then he just him at his whole
entourage just leave the club. I mean he's like mad,
Oh my god. BRIT's just like we're good. Like it
was that for me. So then I'm like, oh, maybe
it was a mistake or whatever.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
So we go.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
I see him again at another club. This is like
maybe like two weeks later, and he does the exact
same thing. So he was just like from the Prince. Yeah,
he was just mad, Like no, no, he was just
so so anyway, but yeah, so he was like fuddy
because the years later, I watched the Stage Chappelle show
and then they talk about like we're Prince says he's
going to make these pancakes, and I just bust up

(33:14):
laughing because it was like the thing that I remember
that show.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah really, Oh I told her I don't remember
remember and I remember, so he Wow, that was all show.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Just rough because I was like, that's exactly what he said,
you know. So it was fun.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Oh my god, God, so your life then again you
go on, uh, you're on Price is Right? That was it.
Being a showcase sugar was fun.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
That was because I'd always watched Price is Right as
a little girl. So to be on there and I
was on there with the Nicky what do my great friends?
I was bridesmaids and her wedding, Nicky's eerring, and so
it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
So how was Bob Barker.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
He was great, Actually he was great. Yeah, he was
really cool. He was actually really nice. And then although
everything every that was just such a fun experience. It's
like a dream come true.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I folks, at the end of part one of my
podcast with my now wife Rosie Tennis, and I hope
you'll have enjoyed this so far.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Next week we're gonna have part two. I will be
on my honeymoon. I can't believe I've gotten to this
point where I'm.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Going to be on my honeymoon with the woman of
my dream. So I hope there's a lot of things
that you've already learned from Rosie's story, but also a
lot of things that are that she's been able to
help me with on my mental health journey to get
me here where I feel worthy. I feel that I
am deserving of this now. In the past, I never
felt worthy of it. So I've wrote every relationship that
I've ever had that's not gonna happen with Rosie. So

(34:39):
I really hope you can enjoy it next week as well.
But thanks for tuning in to Part one by my
Journey with Rosey

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