May 13, 2024 • 36 mins
Doug and the crew share what they loved and what they hated from the sports weekend. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the Celtics, Knicks and all of the major headlines around the NBA playoffs. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through Monday edition of "The Press".
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Uh oh? Coming up on we talked about Summerfest in Milwaukee.
We're coming up on like concert season, concert season.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Buyer.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You you do like going to big concerts? I mean
I distinctly remember the You two?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Is there a? Is there a?
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I have to see this act this summer again? You
two is because of my wife's fandom. Yes, yes, I
have not my wife. I have not felt that way
about any show. I like concerts. I enjoy them. I
love the guessing of what the first song is going
to be. The Morgan Wallin intro walks all over my TikTok,
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like I get that excitement of it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Have you gone to Morgan mohone? Do you want to
go to Morgamland? No, I'm I'm into Seal Beach. I
think sure next week, this week. Sure, Sure, he's got
He's got a bunch of good songs. It's not a
great show. Yeah, great show. He just goes song song, song, song, song,
song song. He doesn't talk about throwing chairs off of
the top of buildings or any any other live stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
He just he just plays music.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Sure, I but I just I don't have that desire,
like I am not like, oh my god, it's there
on tour.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That has just never been never been my deal.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Oh yeah, No, I love concerts.
Speaker 8 (02:08):
Last concert I went to was one of my favorite
Bounds that I've always said is awful live. But I've
done the stupid thing and paid to see them four times.
And then National, the National at the Greek was my
last concert.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Thoroughly enjoyed. The Greek's an amazing venue.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, we went to we.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Went to Google Dolls. I took my daughter grace to
Goo Goo Dolls. Last last summer of the Greek if
you come to Los Angeles, just so you know, the
two best venues, two best venues the Bowl Hollywood Bowl
and the Greek Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Fantastic, am I okay?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Do you guys agree? Disagree? I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
The will Turn is a.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Tough one, only in that the lower level the wilt
will Turn is like feels like, you know, feels like
the sixties and old theater, but like there's no seats
in the lower level, so you're standing up. That would
be my only I had a fainting incident of my
own at the Wilter watching a little way in last
year or so. That was Sammy big, big concert. You
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want to go to the summer, not this summer.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I had my first will Turn experience in October and
it is an old theater in nineteen thirty one, and
it kind of sounded like that, you know. I was
up on the second tech it where it so it
a little bit muffled, but I enjoyed. I saw this
band called The Darkness. It's been around for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
What is your genre of choice?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Blues or rock? Probably with the Way you go, you know,
anything with the four instruments, the bass, the drums, guitar,
you know, singing. But I have been to the Greek
theater saw this kind of a funk jam band called
Wolfpeck and it was excellent, excellent experience.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, so thank you for sharing.
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the show. Boston You're welcome, Boston, You're welcome, Boston, You're welcome.
Let's get to love it hate.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What did you love? God? I love you? And what
did you hate?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Meet these player hays.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So every Monday here in the Doug Gotlib Show on
Fox Sports Radio, we kind of do our own mental
recap of the weekend, right, and I'd like to keep
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at gottlib show feel Free. What you love from the weekend?
What'd you hate from the weekend? I'm gonna start. I
love the Nuggets this weekend. I just I love that.
I know it's a cliche. Don't never underestimate the art
of a champion. I get it, I got it, I understand,
but we can all be honest and think it did
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not look good. You didn't have to break out a broom,
you didn't have to say they were dead. But they
definitely pulled an undertaker right or before the undertaker. Do
you guys remember when Hulk Hogan, when he'd be like
knocked out and they'd rifted up his arm and dropped out.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He lift up his arm and it dropped out.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
They lift up his arm, and then all of a sudden,
like the fist would be made and all of a sudden,
the whole maniac was back. That was the Nuggets this weekend.
They didn't beat the Wolves once. They beat him twice
in their building after looking like they were done.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I loved it.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
I'm gonnakos on on that because the Nuggets are my
favorite NBA team. They have been for at least thirteen months.
This is what I loved about them. This is what
I loved about the wins because in our careers, the
two loudest voices, the two best compensated voices, and the
(06:14):
two most famous voices in our industry.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Stephen A.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
Smith and Charles Barkley both said that the Nuggets were
going to get swept on their platforms right after Game two.
Both of them said that, and neither of them have
apologized since. Neither of them have said I was wrong.
Barkley said something like, well, just got it, Neil. They
just played better in games reinforced. It was kind of
(06:38):
a weird hedge. That's what I loved about watching my
guy Joker just put it to these these the top
names of the industry. Basically, it's you know, how does
my bleep taste? That's what the Joker was saying to
Barkley and stephen A.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Jason also sent me a text saying that he loves
when people laughed at him for taking the Nuggets. And
I got DIBs on Friday, and I do believe I
was the only one that laughed.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
No, I heard a bunch of listeners laugh into.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But I also laugh at his nuggets.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Fandom actually have exclusive audio of Dan Byer laughing.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You probably do. Actually, if you went back in the
podcast that was it, would you leave in the wigand
Sam loved that laugh. It's great.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I loved first of all, on the heels of that.
I love that we're going to have Nicola Jokic and
Nicola Yovich and now Nicola Tobitch Yes, in the NBA
after the NBA Draft.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That is going to be amazing.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
So that's it's gonna be fun for us, just as
just as all of us anchors and people at the
news desk have got Nicola Kitch down Pat, We're gonna
have another curveball. What I loved was something we touched
on in game time. I love that Rory McElroy won
the Wells Fargo at Quail Hollow Because we've talked about
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the frustrating season that it's been in golf. Golf still separated.
I don't think they're any closer to merging worlds. There
is still a great divide and honestly, not a lot
of great positivity. But now you have a major in
the PGA Championship, with Rory McElroy playing well, Scotti Scheffler
undoubtedly the number one player in the world, and as
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we mentioned, Brooks Keepka coming in as the defending champ winning.
That is all great for golf that needs any positive headlines,
any positive momentum. And if you could get those three
stars on a leaderboard on Sunday, it would do a
lot of good. And would It's been a long time coming.
So just to see Rory McElroy win and do so
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an impressive fashion yesterday and running away from Xander Schoffley
was my love.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I I the second the last part was a really
good point, right, you know, it wasn't a guy you
hadn't heard of that he was running away from. It's
like Xander Schoffe, Like oh oh oh, And like, look,
golf needs Rory, Golf need that group of guys to
ball out at a major. They just do Sammy, what
do you got.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You guys?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Remember the twenty nineteen World Series Nationals Astros. That was
the first time a sports series in North America the
home team never won a game. I kind of love
the fact that the Nuggets and t Wolves that might
actually be headed that way. No one's won a home game.
Yet it's a strange thing. Could be the only second
time in sports history here that that that's happened. I love,
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I love weird kind of statistical anomalies like that. I
don't think that will happen. I do think that a
home team will win the rest of the series, But
right now, no one has the home court. The home
fans have not gotten the satisfaction of a Western Conference
semifinals win. To me, I I just love that stuff.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
It's strange since we're being informative of stats and most
of our listeners are probably asking us this. Only five
teams in the history of the NBA have lost the
first two games at home and ended up winning the series.
Five teams total. Celtics in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think Celtics in twenty eighteen. Do anybody wanted? Does
anybody want to go the other four? Buyer? This seems
like a buyer thing. Sheeez, No, I'm.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's got to be the Suns, right when the Sons
in ninety three against.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
The Yeah, yeah, the Suns are one of them.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, I don't know the others. Do you have the
others teams?
Speaker 6 (10:41):
No, it wasn't two. Do you know the others, Chase
or No, did you just know that it only happened
five times?
Speaker 7 (10:46):
No?
Speaker 8 (10:46):
I read it this morning, but now I'm efforting the
list of teams. But it is pretty amazing that all
the series in the history of the league, that the
Nuggets could become only the sixth team. And if it
sounds like I'm talking solely to buy time while the
screen loads, That's exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
What I'm doing. Let's get to what you hated from
the weekend.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Oh, the sixty nine Lakers over the car.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Warrior, duh, duh.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
None of us were alive.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And that.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I give me something you hated, Dan, I actually hated
that the Nuggets won these two games? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Well yeah, because on Tuesday I called them frauds when
I was sitting in for you with Ryan Howell.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So what I just an honest question. What about them
made them fraudulent?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Frauds? From?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
What?
Speaker 10 (11:40):
Like?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
What were they that? Again? I'm glad you asked?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Okay, go, So I said it last year that their
run to the NBA Championship was the easiest we had
ever seen an NBA history, and seed wise.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
It was okay, So, so you're going by seed wise
and I actually agree with you on some level, right,
I don't point out that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Can we say that?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Remember everybody said that about the Warriors first championship right
where every team they played their point guard was injured
for at least two of the games, right, Yes, Remember
they played Mike Conley with the Grizzlies. He was hurt
for two games. Lillard missed a couple of games, I
think that year. Of course, Kyrie got hurt in Game
one of the NBA Finals. So but you thought easiest,
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that's that's.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Fair when you added up their seed numbers, like there
was two eights, a seven, and a four was their
route last year anyway, So I used to fish in
terms of what we had this time round head line.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
That was a good line, go fish. Nobody got it.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Plus plus a simple fact of I expected Denver to
respond in that Game two. I wasn't as bothered as
much that they lost Game one, but to see how
Game two played out in Minnesota locked them down. I
really thought that Minnesota arrived, and I do think that
Minnesota has the pieces. But man, Rudy Gobert, last night,
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there was a stretch of two minutes some of the
worst basketball that I've seen just clueless of what is
going on. Karl Anthony Towns was absence, absent at like.
It was very frustrating, especially on the heels of my
take on Tuesday and calling the Nuggets frauds to see
what happened on Friday and Sunday. So I actually hated it,
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while you guys loved it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's my hate, Okay, Jase too.
Speaker 8 (13:30):
I hate the the Michael Jordan comparison with Anthony Edwards.
I can't stand it. And it continued through the weekend.
I kept hearing it through the weekend and even this
morning on a show on this network. I just think
in five years, we're gonna look back and be like,
remember when Anthony Edwards had a couple of good games
in the playoffs and everyone thought he was the next Jordan?
Like somehow this like thirst to put a new face
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on the NBA has quickly gone to not only is
he the new face the NBA, but he's the next Jordan.
And I think it's annoying what we do in this business.
And this is what I want all of those people
comparing him to MJ to say if they lose this series,
I want to ask them this question, did Michael Jordan
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ever win the first two games on the road in
a series and allow his team to lose the series.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
No, but Mike.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I mean, like, listen, when Michael Jordan was twenty two,
he had just gotten in the NBA and his team
is trash.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
I just want that one question to ask to be
asked of each of those people.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Go to each of.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Them, every one of them. Yep, okay, Sammy.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
My hate. This weekend, the news coming out of a
new underwear line being modeled by some WNBA players. In
my never ending quest to rid My Life of Anything
Kardashian and Jenner, Kim Kardashian's schem's underwear line has to
descend to the w NBA, just as we're getting excited
for Kaitlyn Clark's season debut. I can't get rid of
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this person. She's always permeating my life, all of our lives. Really,
we can never quite get distance ourselves enough from Kim
Kardashian or the Jenners. So yeah, she's just she shows
up yet again. Like death and taxes, It's one of
the life's three constants.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Can I can I? Actually I actually take the other
side of that.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They look like granny panties. They look like granny panties.
They might be comfortable.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
But before you do that, Doug, I need to share
the I I laughed out loud yesterday and it takes
a lot for me to laugh out. Well, yeah, I
saw a gift yesterday. Somebody posted a picture of Kim
Kardashian when she was like eight years old with her mom,
and the the actual tweets that Chris Jenner takes a
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picture with her paycheck.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's that's that's good. I'll tell you what I hate. Okay,
I just okay. So we all know Luca complains about
officiating calls, right, and it's the part of it is
they all complain. But part of it is he has
that European flair where it's with his hands and facial
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expression very much.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's very much kind of theater, arn't. He's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But the thunder fans complaining about Luca complaining and then
in turn complaining about officiating in their own right is
just annoying, right, And I get it. It's really hard
to find rhyme or reason to some of the officiating.
But that's not why you lost, right, You lost because
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they got more physical and you didn't adjust and then
the thunder just took Jalen Williams not played well recently.
He's supposedly their second best player. He's taken bad shots.
I just but the big thing is just the complaining
about Luca and then the interurn complaining about officiating. Like, so,
what you're saying is if I was a player, I'd
be complaining about the same officiating. But it annoys me
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that Luca complains about the officiating. Making sense there that
sense maybe this is better for our podcast than you're annoying.
But I just I hate it.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I hate and I.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Also don't like that people don't appreciate Luca from this standpoint.
Which game do we have all the rebounds? And was
that game four?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Game four?
Speaker 6 (17:23):
I think he liked and fifteen yeah that was Saturday. No,
it was game three Saturday and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Right, But he didn't shoot the bowl well.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And so again this is this is where when you
really understand sports, you look at things differently.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Okay, PJ.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Washington went off in that game, but a lot of
that was Luca finding him because they were helping on
Luca and helping on the roller and when Luca's not
shooting the ball. Well, he went and got a bunch
of rebounds.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So it's the.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Can you play well when you're not playing well? Can
you affect the game in more ways than just scoring?
I think the guy is awesome. Does he complain about
officiating too much?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yes? But so do you anybody else? Andy? Else?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You want to get it? Hey, listen to this like therapy.
Anybody want to get anything off your chest?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
We're good?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You're pretty good? Yeah, well pretty good? What can we do? Dan? No?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
No, okay, I just I don't want you pretty good.
I want you to bend. If there's anything else?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
A real good weekend, so real good weekend. Good, that's
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Speaker 1 (18:32):
What I would you Dog Gottlib show Fox Sports Radio.
You know, it's a fascinating is some guys evolve in
front of our eyes, you know. And what we've seen
from Aaron Gordon, which is Aaron Gordon was far and
away the best player for the Orlando Magic and they
never did anything and now he's the third best player
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for the Denver Nuggets. And I think that's I think
it's remarkable, right, the the sacrifice of be going granted,
like when you win, that changes bless you. But Dan,
by the way, like Dan's studio, I can see and
he had you go three or four sneezes that looked
like four.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I can go six or seven? Just how I sneeze?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I go three?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Not two?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Not three? Yeah, exactly, not five was a lot. That
was a lot, JAYCEU. How many sneezes do you go
in a sitting?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I mean sneeze?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Do you go in a citty? I go?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I go like, I'm like three standard and if it's four,
I'm like, wow something.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I wish I could just do two, but it's I
don't know anybody could just do two sneezes.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Yeah, I'm a one sneeze guy.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
One sneeze guy, one sneeze.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
But it's a powerful one powerful it hurts.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, you know, premature sneeze, right, premature sneeze. Let's
welcome in Rick Buker and Buke of course, Fox Sports one,
Foxsports dot Com. He joins in the Doug Gotleib Show
on Fox Sports Radio. You guys feel like we're seeing
maybe not an evolution of Kyrie Irving, but like Kyrie
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is settling into like kind of growing up as a player. Yeah,
I kind of kind of growing up as a player.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Is that fair enough?
Speaker 10 (20:15):
No? Absolutely, it's been a joy to watch. I mean,
he's what thirty two. So I had mixed feelings when
I heard this, When he said, you know, I want
to be considered a great player, and I noticed that
great players are making an impact at both ends of
the floor, I thought, well, better late than ever. I mean,
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it took this long, and but more than anything, I
just love that we're getting to see I'm seeing him
do some things, not just you know, defending and defending
at a really high level. He's done a really nice job.
He's probably done the best job on Shay Gilgis Alexander
that anybody with the MAVs has done. Uh and uh.
(21:05):
But his also his his playmaking, Jason Kidd asking him
to say, hey, I needed to get other guys going.
I get other guys involved. And this last game, this
last game we saw what Luca of usage usage was
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under twenty five percent, and Tim Harway junior, Kyrie and PJ.
Washington were all over twenty percent. That's the balance. I
think that that makes them at their best, and Kyrie
had a huge hand in it. I'm I'm just I'm
seeing a complete player and a complete game and none
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of the other extraneous issues or controversies to distract us
from what kind of player he's capable of being. And
I just I love watching it. It's like I always thought,
like it's in there, but we got all this stuff
getting in the way, and we have to talk about
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it because it's getting in the way of him and
his teams and the fact that we're not seeing any
of that, we're just getting to enjoy and appreciate Kyrie
Irving the basketball player has been one of the great
gifts for this postseason.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I completely agree.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And look like we all mature at different times, even
as guys and as athletes, like sometimes you just settle
into you know what, and like Aaron Gordon was the
guy who last year showed so many people like, wow,
you can really sacrifice your ego and play you know,
third pill and win a championship.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
But not everybody is capable of that.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Yeah, and no, that's exactly right, and honestly, like, I'm
not sure that I I really matured until my late twenties,
right the goopball for a long time, so I can.
I try to give some grace. But it was just
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frustrating because you would hear Kyrie questioning why he wasn't
being appreciated or why he wasn't being recognized, and I
was like, dude, you're getting in your own way, and
and now that he's not, it's we're we're getting to see.
We're getting to see a bunch of things that I
think most of us thought, how's this going to work?
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With Lucas? And honestly, you could look at Luca now
and say, Okay, Like Kyrie's made that step, Luca's got
to make that same step in terms of maturing as
well as great as as great as he can be,
there's there's some maturity that would certainly make him more
effective as well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Stug Gottleig Show here on Fox Sports Radio, coming to
you from the TAIRAQ dot com studios. As for Oklahoma City,
you know, it's it's interesting their fans are so defensive
that when you go back, even in Game one of
their first series, I was like, man, that thing gets physical.
They were kind of getting thrown around, and after Game
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one they've kind of gotten pushed around. And I know
lou Dort's trying to become physical, but the rest of
them aren't built for it. Is it just as simple
simple as they're too young and they're not ready for it,
or is there an adjustment that's not being made.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
No, Honestly, I just think this is I think this
is a flaw. If there's a flaw in their roster,
this is it. I mean, Josh Giddy is probably their
next the biggest player after ched Holmgrin and Ched had
gotten knocked around, and I thought toward the end of
the season that he was showing some wear and tear.
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And and then when you have to bump and grind
against the same guys like multiple games in a row,
and they start to get into you and you start
to take these these hits at playoff intensity, I think
it just it wears you down. And I think as
much as anything we're we're seeing that because their reaction
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and their ability to just get back in transition has
has been lacking there more than anything, like, I think
the physical beating has taken away their advantage, which was
their speed and their athleticism. They're not playing with the
same energy. And I wrote about it after the after
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the last game. I mean every hustle category, whether it's
offensive rebounds, or second chance points or fast breakpoints, rebounding
in general, Like Dallas won every one of those, and
we thought it was going to be experienced versus athleticism.
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But as I looked at the last two game, it
was really Dallas just out working their younger opponent. And
that's the one thing that you wouldn't expect to happen.
But I do think that it's because the game has
become physical and and and Oklahoma City has has just
worn down a little bit with with that being a
consistent drum beat.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I agree, And you know, it's it's interesting. It's the
I mean, like a team wide kind of Steph Curry thing.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
We've seen Steph at times early in playoffs, big playoff
series struggle because the physicality, right, And and this is
what's happened kind of team wise to this club. What
what's your reaction to what's happened that Minnesota Denversaries.
Speaker 10 (26:40):
Well, look, I was saying that I had not seen
the Denver Nuggets championship form this this playoff run. Didn't
see it against the Lakers, and I thought it was
against the Lakers. It was boredom because they'd beaten them
twenty times in a row. It's like, we really don't
have to play hard, we don't have to get we
don't need our a game to beat them. We just
(27:02):
need part of our a game in the fourth quarter,
and we can do this. And they won the first
three games that way, and then they lost the fourth game,
and I thought, Okay, now they're going to show us
their a game. They're gonna stop messing around. And when
they didn't in game five, they still won, but they
would They didn't didn't look a whole lot different in
the first four games. I thought, Okay, maybe maybe like
(27:22):
the fatigue or uh, they're just not you know, the
physic whatever it might be, short, whatever it might be.
Maybe they're just not uh, you know, winning back to
back championships is not easy. It's it's it is an
absolute Winning one is an absolute crime. And I thought
maybe they're just not up to it. And and so
(27:43):
then the Minnesota series started and I thought, Okay, well
this is happening because I'm seeing the same performance I
saw against the Lakers, becauset, Minnesota is infinitely better. But
the one thing that I that I thought, is like,
if they just move the ball and and and make
sharper cuts and just play the Denver Nuggets offense that
I've seen, Minnesota is so good. The strength of their
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defense is one on one defense. They have great one
on one defenders, and Bust of the League plays sort
of isolation pick and roll and right into how Minnesota defends.
But I thought they're not a high IQ team. And
if you get them rotating, and you get Karl Anthony
Towns having to move and Anthony Edwards having to chase,
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and even Jaden McDaniels having to make decisions that you're
going to open up gaps and Minnesota's offense can't stay
with Denvers when they are utilizing all of that motion
and their passing. And I think that's what we've seen
the last two games, is that just they finally got
(28:49):
to that. I mean, I just watching them in the
first six games. They weren't making sharp cuts. There was confusion,
there was the timing was all off because Jokic was
kind of being lazy and sloppy. Jamal was being lazy
and sloppy. Guys weren't cutting hard, they were hold they
were holding the ball too long. These last two games,
we've just seen the Denver Nuggets offense that is so lethal.
(29:14):
And I don't know that Minnesota has an answer for that.
If they continue to play that way.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Can the Knicks Knicks get their legs back?
Speaker 10 (29:26):
I don't. I don't really see how, I honestly, just
because I mean, I don't know where I would be.
I'd be surprised if we saw Annonobi again. I haven't
heard what his status is for the next game, but
it's a huge drop off from him. The pressure precious,
thetua and and this is this is honestly, this is
(29:48):
the price you pay, not just for playing guys long
minutes in the playoffs, but having played guys long minutes
during the regular season. And it's not so much that
they're worn down, although as there's some of that, some
of it is also guys like Alec Burks and some
of the other guys that you can be going to
on the bench, the just haven't been in the rotation.
(30:09):
They haven't the lack of familiarity isn't there because it's
been so long since they've been in any kind of rotation,
gotten any significant minutes, and you just try to get
back up to speed and get everybody synced up at
this stage, particularly again against a team that plays as
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fast and as as deep as the Pacers. I just
it's disappointing and I think it could have been prevented
if kids could just like, there's just times where you
look to milk minutes from your bench so that you're
just because your first six can play forty five minutes
(30:55):
a night doesn't mean that you should. And whether it's
the injuries or just the general fatigue, I mean, it
can't come as a shock to anybody, right, I mean
this idea that yeah, well they did it all season long,
and Josh Hark can say that all he want, like
up intensity is a.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Different level level.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
And then you lose, you know, one or two of
those guys that were playing forty forty five minutes, and
you may feel like I still have it watching you,
and you don't you like, even if it's a quarter
steps that you're losing, that's the or the you know,
there's two times now that you don't get to that
loose ball or that rebound that's that can be the
(31:40):
difference in a playoff game, and that's what the Knicks
are experiencing as.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I see it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
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Huge show. Let's get a Dan byer for the press.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Can't wait.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
The press.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
By the way.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
By the way, that was a callback from earlier on
the show. I know listeners come in and out five
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Sam's like, who is Sizza? And that is a song
that says a features on right there, Maroon.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Five, I've seen s z A. I didn't know was
pronounced sizza. I'm sorry, I just phonetically.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Did you think it was Shay z ilgis Alexanders? Wait?
Wait wait wait media laugh?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Guys ready, Oh, that's more insulting to my joke than
it is.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Media laugh. What do you got, Dan?
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Jared Goff's got a new deal. The Lions are paying
him fifty three million dollars a year. It's a four
year extension. Two hundred and twelve million dollars is the
value of the contract, with one hundred and seventy million
dollars guaranteed. Joe Burrow's average annual salary of fifty five
million dollars is the only one that's worth more than
what golf just got from the Detroit Lions. Hmmm, that's Jared.
(33:53):
No one that's Jared can only be Jared. There you go,
listen Jared.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, that's a lot of money, A lot of money.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Do we like Tiar Goff that much?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I think he's a great quarterback, great quarterback. He was
worthy of the number one overall pick for his I
like him a lot I think he's top twelve.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Okay, what so he's a great quarterback. I think he's
top twelve.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, I don't know what sam semantics, sam antics.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's not semantics. Okay, that is scattershot.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Well, but if you're in the top twelve of the NFL,
you're making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So but that's not a great quarterback.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Well in your mind the work in.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Anybody's mind, they're two teams. Okay, a great by definition
should be top five.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Sure, the top six, said top seven? Okay, great?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Would you rather have him than Pat Mahomes?
Speaker 5 (34:51):
No? Pat Mahomes won three out of four Super Bowls?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh, I'm working here. Okay, okay, would you rather have him?
Or Justin Herbert? Would you rather have him? Or like,
let's kind of go through all of these different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You have it?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
You know we're going down a rabbit hole here.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
No, we're not.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
This is actually how it's done when you talk about great.
Here's my thing with Look, the GM who traded for
him in Detroit was the guy who is director of
player personnel and drafted him in LA with the Rams.
So this is a big thing. Okay, is play for
that Rob It's called a rabbi in the room, the
(35:30):
guy who will stand on the table and say, we
got to have this guy. He's forever tied at the
hip with Holmes. What's his first name home, Brad Holmes.
You know, Brad Holmes. That's his guy, and he's all
in on it. It's a massive overpay for him. He's
a good quarterback. He's not a great outdoor quarterback, and
he doesn't like to take shots down the field. He's
Matt Ryan, which is good enough to get to Super Bowl,
(35:50):
not good enough to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Couldn't you make the case though, that in like eighteen months,
it's not going to be an overpay, Like this is
the the market price for this?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You could, but like these guys are aren't going anywhere.
No one will actually negotiate like a reasonable person should negotiate, Like, hey, dude,
you make thirty million dollars, We're gonna guarantee you thirty
million dollars for the next three years, and said like no,
we got to give you fifty million dollars.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Like why, I'll just say this, what's the difference between
Dak and Jared Goff?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Like I don't and I think that's your point. Right,
Dallas is playing hardball with him and Detroit, and I
want to.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
See if Dallas actually does that in the offseason. Right.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I understand you're trying to lessen your tax, but eventually
you're gonna have to pay tax.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
On this thing. And that's the that's the press that
you get out there and pressed.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
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Uh oh? Coming up on we talked about Summerfest in Milwaukee.
We're coming up on like concert season, concert season.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Buyer.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You you do like going to big concerts? I mean
I distinctly remember the You two?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Is there a? Is there a?
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I have to see this act this summer again? You
two is because of my wife's fandom. Yes, yes, I
have not my wife. I have not felt that way
about any show. I like concerts. I enjoy them. I
love the guessing of what the first song is going
to be. The Morgan Wallin intro walks all over my TikTok,
(01:33):
like I get that excitement of it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Have you gone to Morgan mohone? Do you want to
go to Morgamland? No, I'm I'm into Seal Beach. I
think sure next week, this week. Sure, Sure, he's got
He's got a bunch of good songs. It's not a
great show. Yeah, great show. He just goes song song, song, song, song,
song song. He doesn't talk about throwing chairs off of
the top of buildings or any any other live stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
He just he just plays music.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Sure, I but I just I don't have that desire,
like I am not like, oh my god, it's there
on tour.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That has just never been never been my deal.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Oh yeah, No, I love concerts.
Speaker 8 (02:08):
Last concert I went to was one of my favorite
Bounds that I've always said is awful live. But I've
done the stupid thing and paid to see them four times.
And then National, the National at the Greek was my
last concert.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Thoroughly enjoyed. The Greek's an amazing venue.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, we went to we.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Went to Google Dolls. I took my daughter grace to
Goo Goo Dolls. Last last summer of the Greek if
you come to Los Angeles, just so you know, the
two best venues, two best venues the Bowl Hollywood Bowl
and the Greek Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Fantastic, am I okay?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Do you guys agree? Disagree? I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
The will Turn is a.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Tough one, only in that the lower level the wilt
will Turn is like feels like, you know, feels like
the sixties and old theater, but like there's no seats
in the lower level, so you're standing up. That would
be my only I had a fainting incident of my
own at the Wilter watching a little way in last
year or so. That was Sammy big, big concert. You
(03:12):
want to go to the summer, not this summer.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I had my first will Turn experience in October and
it is an old theater in nineteen thirty one, and
it kind of sounded like that, you know. I was
up on the second tech it where it so it
a little bit muffled, but I enjoyed. I saw this
band called The Darkness. It's been around for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
What is your genre of choice?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Blues or rock? Probably with the Way you go, you know,
anything with the four instruments, the bass, the drums, guitar,
you know, singing. But I have been to the Greek
theater saw this kind of a funk jam band called
Wolfpeck and it was excellent, excellent experience.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, so thank you for sharing.
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the show. Boston You're welcome, Boston, You're welcome, Boston, You're welcome.
Let's get to love it hate.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What did you love? God? I love you? And what
did you hate?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Meet these player hays.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So every Monday here in the Doug Gotlib Show on
Fox Sports Radio, we kind of do our own mental
recap of the weekend, right, and I'd like to keep
with sports, but like, look, if you didn't do sports
this weekend and you want to tweet us on x
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(04:59):
at gottlib show feel Free. What you love from the weekend?
What'd you hate from the weekend? I'm gonna start. I
love the Nuggets this weekend. I just I love that.
I know it's a cliche. Don't never underestimate the art
of a champion. I get it, I got it, I understand,
but we can all be honest and think it did
(05:20):
not look good. You didn't have to break out a broom,
you didn't have to say they were dead. But they
definitely pulled an undertaker right or before the undertaker. Do
you guys remember when Hulk Hogan, when he'd be like
knocked out and they'd rifted up his arm and dropped out.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He lift up his arm and it dropped out.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
They lift up his arm, and then all of a sudden,
like the fist would be made and all of a sudden,
the whole maniac was back. That was the Nuggets this weekend.
They didn't beat the Wolves once. They beat him twice
in their building after looking like they were done.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I loved it.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
I'm gonnakos on on that because the Nuggets are my
favorite NBA team. They have been for at least thirteen months.
This is what I loved about them. This is what
I loved about the wins because in our careers, the
two loudest voices, the two best compensated voices, and the
(06:14):
two most famous voices in our industry.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Stephen A.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
Smith and Charles Barkley both said that the Nuggets were
going to get swept on their platforms right after Game two.
Both of them said that, and neither of them have
apologized since. Neither of them have said I was wrong.
Barkley said something like, well, just got it, Neil. They
just played better in games reinforced. It was kind of
(06:38):
a weird hedge. That's what I loved about watching my
guy Joker just put it to these these the top
names of the industry. Basically, it's you know, how does
my bleep taste? That's what the Joker was saying to
Barkley and stephen A.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Jason also sent me a text saying that he loves
when people laughed at him for taking the Nuggets. And
I got DIBs on Friday, and I do believe I
was the only one that laughed.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
No, I heard a bunch of listeners laugh into.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But I also laugh at his nuggets.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Fandom actually have exclusive audio of Dan Byer laughing.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You probably do. Actually, if you went back in the
podcast that was it, would you leave in the wigand
Sam loved that laugh. It's great.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I loved first of all, on the heels of that.
I love that we're going to have Nicola Jokic and
Nicola Yovich and now Nicola Tobitch Yes, in the NBA
after the NBA Draft.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That is going to be amazing.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
So that's it's gonna be fun for us, just as
just as all of us anchors and people at the
news desk have got Nicola Kitch down Pat, We're gonna
have another curveball. What I loved was something we touched
on in game time. I love that Rory McElroy won
the Wells Fargo at Quail Hollow Because we've talked about
(08:13):
the frustrating season that it's been in golf. Golf still separated.
I don't think they're any closer to merging worlds. There
is still a great divide and honestly, not a lot
of great positivity. But now you have a major in
the PGA Championship, with Rory McElroy playing well, Scotti Scheffler
undoubtedly the number one player in the world, and as
(08:35):
we mentioned, Brooks Keepka coming in as the defending champ winning.
That is all great for golf that needs any positive headlines,
any positive momentum. And if you could get those three
stars on a leaderboard on Sunday, it would do a
lot of good. And would It's been a long time coming.
So just to see Rory McElroy win and do so
(08:57):
an impressive fashion yesterday and running away from Xander Schoffley
was my love.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I I the second the last part was a really
good point, right, you know, it wasn't a guy you
hadn't heard of that he was running away from. It's
like Xander Schoffe, Like oh oh oh, And like, look,
golf needs Rory, Golf need that group of guys to
ball out at a major. They just do Sammy, what
do you got.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You guys?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Remember the twenty nineteen World Series Nationals Astros. That was
the first time a sports series in North America the
home team never won a game. I kind of love
the fact that the Nuggets and t Wolves that might
actually be headed that way. No one's won a home game.
Yet it's a strange thing. Could be the only second
time in sports history here that that that's happened. I love,
(09:45):
I love weird kind of statistical anomalies like that. I
don't think that will happen. I do think that a
home team will win the rest of the series, But
right now, no one has the home court. The home
fans have not gotten the satisfaction of a Western Conference
semifinals win. To me, I I just love that stuff.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
It's strange since we're being informative of stats and most
of our listeners are probably asking us this. Only five
teams in the history of the NBA have lost the
first two games at home and ended up winning the series.
Five teams total. Celtics in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think Celtics in twenty eighteen. Do anybody wanted? Does
anybody want to go the other four? Buyer? This seems
like a buyer thing. Sheeez, No, I'm.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's got to be the Suns, right when the Sons
in ninety three against.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
The Yeah, yeah, the Suns are one of them.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, I don't know the others. Do you have the
others teams?
Speaker 6 (10:41):
No, it wasn't two. Do you know the others, Chase
or No, did you just know that it only happened
five times?
Speaker 7 (10:46):
No?
Speaker 8 (10:46):
I read it this morning, but now I'm efforting the
list of teams. But it is pretty amazing that all
the series in the history of the league, that the
Nuggets could become only the sixth team. And if it
sounds like I'm talking solely to buy time while the
screen loads, That's exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
What I'm doing. Let's get to what you hated from
the weekend.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Oh, the sixty nine Lakers over the car.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Warrior, duh, duh.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
None of us were alive.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And that.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I give me something you hated, Dan, I actually hated
that the Nuggets won these two games? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Well yeah, because on Tuesday I called them frauds when
I was sitting in for you with Ryan Howell.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So what I just an honest question. What about them
made them fraudulent?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Frauds? From?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
What?
Speaker 10 (11:40):
Like?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
What were they that? Again? I'm glad you asked?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Okay, go, So I said it last year that their
run to the NBA Championship was the easiest we had
ever seen an NBA history, and seed wise.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
It was okay, So, so you're going by seed wise
and I actually agree with you on some level, right,
I don't point out that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Can we say that?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Remember everybody said that about the Warriors first championship right
where every team they played their point guard was injured
for at least two of the games, right, Yes, Remember
they played Mike Conley with the Grizzlies. He was hurt
for two games. Lillard missed a couple of games, I
think that year. Of course, Kyrie got hurt in Game
one of the NBA Finals. So but you thought easiest,
(12:25):
that's that's.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Fair when you added up their seed numbers, like there
was two eights, a seven, and a four was their
route last year anyway, So I used to fish in
terms of what we had this time round head line.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
That was a good line, go fish. Nobody got it.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Plus plus a simple fact of I expected Denver to
respond in that Game two. I wasn't as bothered as
much that they lost Game one, but to see how
Game two played out in Minnesota locked them down. I
really thought that Minnesota arrived, and I do think that
Minnesota has the pieces. But man, Rudy Gobert, last night,
(13:01):
there was a stretch of two minutes some of the
worst basketball that I've seen just clueless of what is
going on. Karl Anthony Towns was absence, absent at like.
It was very frustrating, especially on the heels of my
take on Tuesday and calling the Nuggets frauds to see
what happened on Friday and Sunday. So I actually hated it,
(13:23):
while you guys loved it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's my hate, Okay, Jase too.
Speaker 8 (13:30):
I hate the the Michael Jordan comparison with Anthony Edwards.
I can't stand it. And it continued through the weekend.
I kept hearing it through the weekend and even this
morning on a show on this network. I just think
in five years, we're gonna look back and be like,
remember when Anthony Edwards had a couple of good games
in the playoffs and everyone thought he was the next Jordan?
Like somehow this like thirst to put a new face
(13:54):
on the NBA has quickly gone to not only is
he the new face the NBA, but he's the next Jordan.
And I think it's annoying what we do in this business.
And this is what I want all of those people
comparing him to MJ to say if they lose this series,
I want to ask them this question, did Michael Jordan
(14:18):
ever win the first two games on the road in
a series and allow his team to lose the series.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
No, but Mike.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I mean, like, listen, when Michael Jordan was twenty two,
he had just gotten in the NBA and his team
is trash.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
I just want that one question to ask to be
asked of each of those people.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Go to each of.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Them, every one of them. Yep, okay, Sammy.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
My hate. This weekend, the news coming out of a
new underwear line being modeled by some WNBA players. In
my never ending quest to rid My Life of Anything
Kardashian and Jenner, Kim Kardashian's schem's underwear line has to
descend to the w NBA, just as we're getting excited
for Kaitlyn Clark's season debut. I can't get rid of
(15:05):
this person. She's always permeating my life, all of our lives. Really,
we can never quite get distance ourselves enough from Kim
Kardashian or the Jenners. So yeah, she's just she shows
up yet again. Like death and taxes, It's one of
the life's three constants.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Can I can I? Actually I actually take the other
side of that.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They look like granny panties. They look like granny panties.
They might be comfortable.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
But before you do that, Doug, I need to share
the I I laughed out loud yesterday and it takes
a lot for me to laugh out. Well, yeah, I
saw a gift yesterday. Somebody posted a picture of Kim
Kardashian when she was like eight years old with her mom,
and the the actual tweets that Chris Jenner takes a
(15:47):
picture with her paycheck.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's that's that's good. I'll tell you what I hate. Okay,
I just okay. So we all know Luca complains about
officiating calls, right, and it's the part of it is
they all complain. But part of it is he has
that European flair where it's with his hands and facial
(16:14):
expression very much.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's very much kind of theater, arn't. He's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But the thunder fans complaining about Luca complaining and then
in turn complaining about officiating in their own right is
just annoying, right, And I get it. It's really hard
to find rhyme or reason to some of the officiating.
But that's not why you lost, right, You lost because
(16:45):
they got more physical and you didn't adjust and then
the thunder just took Jalen Williams not played well recently.
He's supposedly their second best player. He's taken bad shots.
I just but the big thing is just the complaining
about Luca and then the interurn complaining about officiating. Like, so,
what you're saying is if I was a player, I'd
be complaining about the same officiating. But it annoys me
(17:06):
that Luca complains about the officiating. Making sense there that
sense maybe this is better for our podcast than you're annoying.
But I just I hate it.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I hate and I.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Also don't like that people don't appreciate Luca from this standpoint.
Which game do we have all the rebounds? And was
that game four?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Game four?
Speaker 6 (17:23):
I think he liked and fifteen yeah that was Saturday. No,
it was game three Saturday and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Right, But he didn't shoot the bowl well.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And so again this is this is where when you
really understand sports, you look at things differently.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Okay, PJ.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Washington went off in that game, but a lot of
that was Luca finding him because they were helping on
Luca and helping on the roller and when Luca's not
shooting the ball. Well, he went and got a bunch
of rebounds.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So it's the.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Can you play well when you're not playing well? Can
you affect the game in more ways than just scoring?
I think the guy is awesome. Does he complain about
officiating too much?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yes? But so do you anybody else? Andy? Else?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You want to get it? Hey, listen to this like therapy.
Anybody want to get anything off your chest?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
We're good?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You're pretty good? Yeah, well pretty good? What can we do? Dan? No?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
No, okay, I just I don't want you pretty good.
I want you to bend. If there's anything else?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
A real good weekend, so real good weekend. Good, that's
love it hate.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
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Speaker 1 (18:32):
What I would you Dog Gottlib show Fox Sports Radio.
You know, it's a fascinating is some guys evolve in
front of our eyes, you know. And what we've seen
from Aaron Gordon, which is Aaron Gordon was far and
away the best player for the Orlando Magic and they
never did anything and now he's the third best player
(18:55):
for the Denver Nuggets. And I think that's I think
it's remarkable, right, the the sacrifice of be going granted,
like when you win, that changes bless you. But Dan,
by the way, like Dan's studio, I can see and
he had you go three or four sneezes that looked
like four.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I can go six or seven? Just how I sneeze?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I go three?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Not two?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Not three? Yeah, exactly, not five was a lot. That
was a lot, JAYCEU. How many sneezes do you go
in a sitting?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I mean sneeze?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Do you go in a citty? I go?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I go like, I'm like three standard and if it's four,
I'm like, wow something.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I wish I could just do two, but it's I
don't know anybody could just do two sneezes.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Yeah, I'm a one sneeze guy.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
One sneeze guy, one sneeze.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
But it's a powerful one powerful it hurts.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, you know, premature sneeze, right, premature sneeze. Let's
welcome in Rick Buker and Buke of course, Fox Sports one,
Foxsports dot Com. He joins in the Doug Gotleib Show
on Fox Sports Radio. You guys feel like we're seeing
maybe not an evolution of Kyrie Irving, but like Kyrie
(20:07):
is settling into like kind of growing up as a player. Yeah,
I kind of kind of growing up as a player.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Is that fair enough?
Speaker 10 (20:15):
No? Absolutely, it's been a joy to watch. I mean,
he's what thirty two. So I had mixed feelings when
I heard this, When he said, you know, I want
to be considered a great player, and I noticed that
great players are making an impact at both ends of
the floor, I thought, well, better late than ever. I mean,
(20:41):
it took this long, and but more than anything, I
just love that we're getting to see I'm seeing him
do some things, not just you know, defending and defending
at a really high level. He's done a really nice job.
He's probably done the best job on Shay Gilgis Alexander
that anybody with the MAVs has done. Uh and uh.
(21:05):
But his also his his playmaking, Jason Kidd asking him
to say, hey, I needed to get other guys going.
I get other guys involved. And this last game, this
last game we saw what Luca of usage usage was
(21:26):
under twenty five percent, and Tim Harway junior, Kyrie and PJ.
Washington were all over twenty percent. That's the balance. I
think that that makes them at their best, and Kyrie
had a huge hand in it. I'm I'm just I'm
seeing a complete player and a complete game and none
(21:48):
of the other extraneous issues or controversies to distract us
from what kind of player he's capable of being. And
I just I love watching it. It's like I always thought,
like it's in there, but we got all this stuff
getting in the way, and we have to talk about
(22:09):
it because it's getting in the way of him and
his teams and the fact that we're not seeing any
of that, we're just getting to enjoy and appreciate Kyrie
Irving the basketball player has been one of the great
gifts for this postseason.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I completely agree.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And look like we all mature at different times, even
as guys and as athletes, like sometimes you just settle
into you know what, and like Aaron Gordon was the
guy who last year showed so many people like, wow,
you can really sacrifice your ego and play you know,
third pill and win a championship.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
But not everybody is capable of that.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Yeah, and no, that's exactly right, and honestly, like, I'm
not sure that I I really matured until my late twenties,
right the goopball for a long time, so I can.
I try to give some grace. But it was just
(23:12):
frustrating because you would hear Kyrie questioning why he wasn't
being appreciated or why he wasn't being recognized, and I
was like, dude, you're getting in your own way, and
and now that he's not, it's we're we're getting to see.
We're getting to see a bunch of things that I
think most of us thought, how's this going to work?
(23:32):
With Lucas? And honestly, you could look at Luca now
and say, Okay, Like Kyrie's made that step, Luca's got
to make that same step in terms of maturing as
well as great as as great as he can be,
there's there's some maturity that would certainly make him more
effective as well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Stug Gottleig Show here on Fox Sports Radio, coming to
you from the TAIRAQ dot com studios. As for Oklahoma City,
you know, it's it's interesting their fans are so defensive
that when you go back, even in Game one of
their first series, I was like, man, that thing gets physical.
They were kind of getting thrown around, and after Game
(24:13):
one they've kind of gotten pushed around. And I know
lou Dort's trying to become physical, but the rest of
them aren't built for it. Is it just as simple
simple as they're too young and they're not ready for it,
or is there an adjustment that's not being made.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
No, Honestly, I just think this is I think this
is a flaw. If there's a flaw in their roster,
this is it. I mean, Josh Giddy is probably their
next the biggest player after ched Holmgrin and Ched had
gotten knocked around, and I thought toward the end of
the season that he was showing some wear and tear.
(24:52):
And and then when you have to bump and grind
against the same guys like multiple games in a row,
and they start to get into you and you start
to take these these hits at playoff intensity, I think
it just it wears you down. And I think as
much as anything we're we're seeing that because their reaction
(25:13):
and their ability to just get back in transition has
has been lacking there more than anything, like, I think
the physical beating has taken away their advantage, which was
their speed and their athleticism. They're not playing with the
same energy. And I wrote about it after the after
(25:37):
the last game. I mean every hustle category, whether it's
offensive rebounds, or second chance points or fast breakpoints, rebounding
in general, Like Dallas won every one of those, and
we thought it was going to be experienced versus athleticism.
(25:58):
But as I looked at the last two game, it
was really Dallas just out working their younger opponent. And
that's the one thing that you wouldn't expect to happen.
But I do think that it's because the game has
become physical and and and Oklahoma City has has just
worn down a little bit with with that being a
consistent drum beat.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I agree, And you know, it's it's interesting. It's the
I mean, like a team wide kind of Steph Curry thing.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
We've seen Steph at times early in playoffs, big playoff
series struggle because the physicality, right, And and this is
what's happened kind of team wise to this club. What
what's your reaction to what's happened that Minnesota Denversaries.
Speaker 10 (26:40):
Well, look, I was saying that I had not seen
the Denver Nuggets championship form this this playoff run. Didn't
see it against the Lakers, and I thought it was
against the Lakers. It was boredom because they'd beaten them
twenty times in a row. It's like, we really don't
have to play hard, we don't have to get we
don't need our a game to beat them. We just
(27:02):
need part of our a game in the fourth quarter,
and we can do this. And they won the first
three games that way, and then they lost the fourth game,
and I thought, Okay, now they're going to show us
their a game. They're gonna stop messing around. And when
they didn't in game five, they still won, but they
would They didn't didn't look a whole lot different in
the first four games. I thought, Okay, maybe maybe like
(27:22):
the fatigue or uh, they're just not you know, the
physic whatever it might be, short, whatever it might be.
Maybe they're just not uh, you know, winning back to
back championships is not easy. It's it's it is an
absolute Winning one is an absolute crime. And I thought
maybe they're just not up to it. And and so
(27:43):
then the Minnesota series started and I thought, Okay, well
this is happening because I'm seeing the same performance I
saw against the Lakers, becauset, Minnesota is infinitely better. But
the one thing that I that I thought, is like,
if they just move the ball and and and make
sharper cuts and just play the Denver Nuggets offense that
I've seen, Minnesota is so good. The strength of their
(28:07):
defense is one on one defense. They have great one
on one defenders, and Bust of the League plays sort
of isolation pick and roll and right into how Minnesota defends.
But I thought they're not a high IQ team. And
if you get them rotating, and you get Karl Anthony
Towns having to move and Anthony Edwards having to chase,
(28:29):
and even Jaden McDaniels having to make decisions that you're
going to open up gaps and Minnesota's offense can't stay
with Denvers when they are utilizing all of that motion
and their passing. And I think that's what we've seen
the last two games, is that just they finally got
(28:49):
to that. I mean, I just watching them in the
first six games. They weren't making sharp cuts. There was confusion,
there was the timing was all off because Jokic was
kind of being lazy and sloppy. Jamal was being lazy
and sloppy. Guys weren't cutting hard, they were hold they
were holding the ball too long. These last two games,
we've just seen the Denver Nuggets offense that is so lethal.
(29:14):
And I don't know that Minnesota has an answer for that.
If they continue to play that way.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Can the Knicks Knicks get their legs back?
Speaker 10 (29:26):
I don't. I don't really see how, I honestly, just
because I mean, I don't know where I would be.
I'd be surprised if we saw Annonobi again. I haven't
heard what his status is for the next game, but
it's a huge drop off from him. The pressure precious,
thetua and and this is this is honestly, this is
(29:48):
the price you pay, not just for playing guys long
minutes in the playoffs, but having played guys long minutes
during the regular season. And it's not so much that
they're worn down, although as there's some of that, some
of it is also guys like Alec Burks and some
of the other guys that you can be going to
on the bench, the just haven't been in the rotation.
(30:09):
They haven't the lack of familiarity isn't there because it's
been so long since they've been in any kind of rotation,
gotten any significant minutes, and you just try to get
back up to speed and get everybody synced up at
this stage, particularly again against a team that plays as
(30:32):
fast and as as deep as the Pacers. I just
it's disappointing and I think it could have been prevented
if kids could just like, there's just times where you
look to milk minutes from your bench so that you're
just because your first six can play forty five minutes
(30:55):
a night doesn't mean that you should. And whether it's
the injuries or just the general fatigue, I mean, it
can't come as a shock to anybody, right, I mean
this idea that yeah, well they did it all season long,
and Josh Hark can say that all he want, like
up intensity is a.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Different level level.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
And then you lose, you know, one or two of
those guys that were playing forty forty five minutes, and
you may feel like I still have it watching you,
and you don't you like, even if it's a quarter
steps that you're losing, that's the or the you know,
there's two times now that you don't get to that
loose ball or that rebound that's that can be the
(31:40):
difference in a playoff game, and that's what the Knicks
are experiencing as.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I see it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Rick Buker, Fox Sports One, Foxsports dot Com, All Things Hoop,
I buk are the best man. Thanks so much for joining.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Us, Pleazy Doug.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Civic on
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Speaker 1 (32:05):
Doug Ole Them Show Fox Sports Radio. Shortly after the show,
podcast goes up. It's called in the bonus just hyping
Doug Gottlieber. We get podcasts. You can listen to that
every day. It's pretty good. Plus you get this show
as well. Download that podcast. And we got a special
all ball dropping tomorrow as well.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
It was a big day of the show. If you
have never listened to the show, tell all your friends tomorrow.
Huge show. Let's get a Dan byer for the press.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Can't wait.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
The press.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
By the way.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
By the way, that was a callback from earlier on
the show. I know listeners come in and out five
to ten minutes, but earlier in the show we said
Sam's like, who is Sizza? And that is a song
that says a features on right there, Maroon.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Five, I've seen s z A. I didn't know was
pronounced sizza. I'm sorry, I just phonetically.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Did you think it was Shay z ilgis Alexanders? Wait?
Wait wait wait media laugh?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Guys ready, Oh, that's more insulting to my joke than
it is.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Media laugh. What do you got, Dan?
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Jared Goff's got a new deal. The Lions are paying
him fifty three million dollars a year. It's a four
year extension. Two hundred and twelve million dollars is the
value of the contract, with one hundred and seventy million
dollars guaranteed. Joe Burrow's average annual salary of fifty five
million dollars is the only one that's worth more than
what golf just got from the Detroit Lions. Hmmm, that's Jared.
(33:53):
No one that's Jared can only be Jared. There you go,
listen Jared.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, that's a lot of money, A lot of money.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Do we like Tiar Goff that much?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I think he's a great quarterback, great quarterback. He was
worthy of the number one overall pick for his I
like him a lot I think he's top twelve.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Okay, what so he's a great quarterback. I think he's
top twelve.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, I don't know what sam semantics, sam antics.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's not semantics. Okay, that is scattershot.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Well, but if you're in the top twelve of the NFL,
you're making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So but that's not a great quarterback.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Well in your mind the work in.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Anybody's mind, they're two teams. Okay, a great by definition
should be top five.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Sure, the top six, said top seven? Okay, great?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Would you rather have him than Pat Mahomes?
Speaker 5 (34:51):
No? Pat Mahomes won three out of four Super Bowls?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh, I'm working here. Okay, okay, would you rather have him?
Or Justin Herbert? Would you rather have him? Or like,
let's kind of go through all of these different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You have it?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
You know we're going down a rabbit hole here.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
No, we're not.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
This is actually how it's done when you talk about great.
Here's my thing with Look, the GM who traded for
him in Detroit was the guy who is director of
player personnel and drafted him in LA with the Rams.
So this is a big thing. Okay, is play for
that Rob It's called a rabbi in the room, the
(35:30):
guy who will stand on the table and say, we
got to have this guy. He's forever tied at the
hip with Holmes. What's his first name home, Brad Holmes.
You know, Brad Holmes. That's his guy, and he's all
in on it. It's a massive overpay for him. He's
a good quarterback. He's not a great outdoor quarterback, and
he doesn't like to take shots down the field. He's
Matt Ryan, which is good enough to get to Super Bowl,
(35:50):
not good enough to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Couldn't you make the case though, that in like eighteen months,
it's not going to be an overpay, Like this is
the the market price for this?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You could, but like these guys are aren't going anywhere.
No one will actually negotiate like a reasonable person should negotiate, Like, hey, dude,
you make thirty million dollars, We're gonna guarantee you thirty
million dollars for the next three years, and said like no,
we got to give you fifty million dollars.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Like why, I'll just say this, what's the difference between
Dak and Jared Goff?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Like I don't and I think that's your point. Right,
Dallas is playing hardball with him and Detroit, and I
want to.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
See if Dallas actually does that in the offseason. Right.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I understand you're trying to lessen your tax, but eventually
you're gonna have to pay tax.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
On this thing. And that's the that's the press that
you get out there and pressed.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That was the press, right.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
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