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May 14, 2024 37 mins

Jason and Mike tell you why no one has more at stake in the NBA Playoffs than Luka Doncic. The guys are joined by NBA Insider Kurt Helin for all the latest on Luka, the Mavs, Knicks, and the Celtics. And the guys tell you exactly how the Bronny James draft situation is going to play out.

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:49):
In the fourth quarter, the Dallas lead is gone, so
far gone. It's now a five point Oklahoma City lead
ninety six ninety one. Dallas has just looked like they're
running out of gas the last few minutes. Every possession
down the floor, they couldn't get to the rack. Their
shots missed, they missed long, they missed short. They just

(01:11):
look like they're a team that's hitting the wall in
the game tonight, Oklahoma City is fresher. They hit a
couple of threes. Chet hit a three a couple seconds ago,
So now it's a five point leap for Oklahoma City
with one oh one left to go. Shi Gilders Alexander
with thirty two. Meanwhile, Luca just seventeen on six for
nineteen shooting for the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, down the stretch, a couple of really curious possessions.
You've had a lot of physicality down low where players
are looking for files and you know, doing their best
Rick Carlisle looking for files like they're enumerting them on
the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You had one play where.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
It appeared that Lively gave up on a play defensively
because he thought that he'd lost his dribbled Jalen Williams. Instead,
Williams goes base do so, and then a terrible turnover
from Hardaway trying to get the ball to Luca. They
just seem completely discombobulated down the stretch. Huge run for

(02:10):
ok see the final four minutes of regulation.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, this has been Watching the Mavericks has been pretty ugly.
You know, the couple of turnovers that we talked about
with Tim Hardaway Junior with a turnover, and it's just
like suddenly, it's everything got more difficult for them.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Even on the three that made right, Luca got himself
trapped in the air and just kind of flipped it
over his shoulder back out to the three point line,
where fortunately it ended up in Hardaway's hands and he
got a quick three off.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Now seeing how this game was gonna end, we'll have
more on this coming up in a couple of minutes,
and we'll have to get to Luca because boy, we
got to go over his playoff for a couple of seconds.
It looks like Oklahoma City right now in the driver's seat,
up four with him minute left. But as the Knicks
can tell you, hey, being up four with twenty five
seconds left doesn't mean you're gonna win. True. But earlier
tonight we watched the Celtics win and look, I've been

(02:59):
saying this for a while and it keeps getting more
and more true. They beat this Cavaliers tonight to go
up three games to one in the Eastern Conference semis.
It was a lot more difficult than expected because you
had the Cavaliers playing the game without Donovan Mitchell, who
was ruled out right before the game with a calf injury.
You're talking about a star player averaging thirty a game,

(03:21):
maybe in his last game with Cleveland. You don't know,
you can still be the on there after this year.
But this was a game in which, Okay, Boston should
have run away with this. You're talking about you're missing
your best player who was scoring thirty a game. M yeah,
it should be a roll away, but no, the Celtics
have trouble. But this is a run. And this is

(03:42):
why I say there is if the Celtics don't win
the title this year, they're never going to win it
because this is now a team that is basically having
a bye into the Eastern Conference finals and probably pass
that because you played the Heat in the first round
and no Jimmy Butler and you won that. Okay, now

(04:03):
this round you're playing the Cavaliers and no Donovan Mitchell
in the biggest game of the year. Okay, next round,
you're either gonna get the Knicks, who will be down
to four guys by this point, or a young Pacers
team that's that's good but not nearly in their class
and they're beating and they would have beaten the Knicks.
Only because the Knicks are losing players and they don't
have anybody left. You can't just give them credit. This

(04:24):
is gonna be no because if the Knicks were healthy,
this series will be all. The Knicks would be waiting
for the Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals if the
Knicks were healthy. That's how good they are, and that's
how many guys are missing. But this is how it goes.
I'm not I'm saying that this is the way that
the game, this is the way the season goes.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
This has sounded like a lot of excuse making. This
is just larger I'm just telling you a larger thing
for the Celtic.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
If the Knicks were healthy, they'd be waiting now to
see if they play in the Eastern Conference Finals. But
then you're talking about you're getting one of those two
teams and then a Western Conference team that's been through
all kinds of havoc for three rounds because whoever comes
out of the West. Like we told you, the Western
Conference playoffs are murder and the series are going long
and there's a lot of games still to be played.

(05:09):
No one's ending these series early. This looks like it's
gonna be to two, depending on how the last few
seconds of Oklahoma City and Dallas go. And then you're
talking about one more round with the two of the
best teams, and probably two of the three best teams
in the NBA are gonna play at that point. If
the Celtics don't win this year, they're never gonna win.
I'll put them on my never Again list. I thought

(05:30):
you put them after last time. No, but the Celtics
on my never again list. No, the Sixers went on
it last year, but the Celtics will on my never
again list. Now I gotta update my never again list
and say who's on there. But because tonight I've already
talked about two teams that could go on it. The
Ravens could go on it, and so could the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I think you need to do it very colorfully, like
Ronnie Wood does the Stone set lists and then sells
art prints of it. Okay, he writes out the names
of the songs, it draws a cool picture, and then
they off off the other one for charity. But the
other one, you know, you could buy prints of the
set list from your town. You can do that with
your never again list. Here's all the teams I hate

(06:08):
and who have failed me.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
These are not teams I hate. These are all teams
that I'm not gonna pick them to do anything because
they have had chance time and again and they have
failed well, and I've picked them, and other people have
They've I've heard too much about them for so long.
All they need is this? All they need is this?
All they need is this?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, I'm sorry, I am They're gonna go on my
never again list. Okay, two teams could go on my
never again list right there? No, certainly, Look the road
has opened up for them. But we've seen this in
years past. I mean, this is nothing new. We've been
talking about this almost as long as you and I
have been doing the show together. I mean, we've been
doing this ten years and it's kind of the same
same song, and we did it with Denver a year ago. Right,

(06:49):
you have the competitive sweep.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Of the Lakers, and then each round you've got guys
that are unavailable or ailing, and we get all the
excuses from the home towns, but in the end there
can be only one. It's the damn Highlander, Right, doesn't
matter how you got there as long as you got
to your sixteen wins.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Look, it's it's a case of this is what the
NBA playoffs are like. Right, We've talked about this at
the beginning. If you're not healthy, you're not gonna win,
no matter what I talked about the Knicks. Then it's
gonna end for the Knicks at some point. Right, we'll
have more than the mix, but it's gonna end for
the Knicks at some point simply because how much further
can they go? You're already seeing guys like Josh Hart sayeah,

(07:30):
maybe now I'm get a little tired. Look that that
three by Nemhart may wind up being the dagger, that
lucky prayer of a three might be the shot that
flips the NBA playoffs. As far as that's here is
a pure jump shot, Okay, he did a nice step
back in two feet away, doesn't matter at one shot
bucket in the game. He scores five points a game.
He scored those guys points in the final minute of

(07:52):
the game. The last guy you want with the basketball
and I'm gonna shoot it. Then we hit two the
huge shots at the end of that game. Still doesn't
know that he made it even Halliburton was his head
on his hands, going, wow, I can't believe that just happened. Nobody,
but it happened. But it was lucky. Just tell me
it was lucky. It was lucky. Nothing. But eventually, whether
it's this round or the next, for the Knicks, it's

(08:14):
gonna because if you're not healthy or not winning, if
you are healthy, that's what we told you about. No
team is winning the NBA title if they're not healthy.
That these are the teams that don't want you well,
could flip the series pathologically. It still has a hold
on team man. But even after you got waxed yesterday,
but look, you're still talking about that shot. Beat the

(08:38):
hell up.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
In the fourth quarter, I was I had to run
an errand with my older daughter.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Here's the two minutes on the Knicks, and it got
so bad that they had They weren't even talking about
the game anymore.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
They were talking about PJ.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Carlssimo's kid playing golf overseas in which courses he was
gonna play?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh and a layup for the Knicks makes it a
thirty eight. Do we have any stories we can tell
that maybe keep people listening. Yeah, my kid's playing golfers. Great,
I'll tee you up the commercial course. Now I've got
a schedule for later this summer. Hey, you know, that's
what we should do because now anybody who's listening is older.
So we could talk about golf and courses that we've
played over the course of our lives, what our favorite courses.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Unbelievable. You hear faint cheers in the background. It's almost
like they lowered the sound of the game, so like
nobody cared. Hey, oh you just said, another.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Pesky game is going lower than that sound the ambiance
sounds so we can hear PJ talk about his kid
playing golf over says great, thank you much, appreciate it. No,
but that's and look in the Celtics are the beneficiaries
of what the Nuggets were beneficiaries of last year. They're
healthy ish right and losing poor sing It's but I
get it. But when you are playing a team, you're
playing teams that are missing their best play back to

(09:45):
the bubble and beyond. It's it's if you're healthy, if
your stars are healthy, you're missing you were missing your
probably fourth best player, right if you're missing So okay,
that's not being injured, but you're playing teams that are
missing your best player, your best player and probably two
or your five best players for the Knicks, if the

(10:06):
Knicks even get to five after this, I mean, that's
how you make it. That's how you do it. If
they don't do like this is their year, like this
is it. This is a this is a Larry O'Brien
trophy or bust year for the Celtics. And that's how
big a deal it is, because they're clearly better than
everybody else, and they clearly have the best path and
they will be the freshest team playing There is not

(10:26):
You couldn't write a better script for the Celtics if
you wanted to to try to get them to win this,
you could not do it. And let's up forget I mean,
they did dust the entire Eastern Conference in the regular season.
You're fifty one to.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Like.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
You also beat the hell out of the conference as
the year went us, so you know the old it's
not home court advantage, but it is a you know,
you're reaping the benefits of your continuity, consistency and your
dept to where you know you can have games where
Derek White steps up and is your big score for
a few games. Jason Tatum didn't have to be that guy,

(11:03):
although it seems like he wants to be that guy
every night since the media called him out and that
he had to issue the we can't win every game
by twenty five. Now I'm gonna go thirty three to
eleven and five every night.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
But this is it, man, the Celtics, if you are
this is their year, this is they don't do it,
They're never gonna win. They may as well break up
the team, break up Tatum and Brown and everybody else
because you're not gonna win. This is what everybody called
for last year when they didn't win it. Exit out,
bout of Fresca, Exit Swollen Dome, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Carmon. Now, meanwhile, what is

(11:36):
happening right now? Ninety eight ninety five, Oklahoma City with
the lead over Dallas. Dallas got the ball after a
couple of free throws. They're down three with seven seconds
left to go and PJ. Washington is fouled. He misses
the first free throw, makes the second. There are three
seconds left to go, time out on the floor. Oklahoma

(11:59):
City leads Dallas ninety eight, ninety six. This is gonna
have to be inbounds, foul right away, and if you're
Oklahoma City, do you try to make them both? Obviously,
but Dallas may get I don't see how many timeouts
Dallas has left, but if they foul quickly enough, and
Martin weis telling us no timeouts left for Dallas, so
it's gonna be almost now, it's gonna be almost impossible.

(12:21):
So I Luca had missed the front end of a Yeah,
literally Luca missing the front end of two shots that
could have tied the game about thirty seconds ago. But
it looks like it's we're going to walk out of
here with the thunder with a victory over Dallas with
three seconds left. Not being able to advance the ball
is going to be a really big thing, because if
they'll foul right away, there will be a little bit
over There'll be a little bit under three seconds left,

(12:43):
probably two and a half seconds. But no matter what
Oakland's HOMEA City does, even if they miss, Dallas can't
call time out, get the ball up the floor. It's
gonna be a half court heave of some kind of
trying to win this game.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I mean at this point, Luca when he gets to
his postgame press or someone should open that X rated
site to at least get him laughing.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Whoa yeah, Hey, hey Luca, Hey remember this? Remember this, dude,
remember this here, We'll play this for you right now.
Did that's your time? Was that Tyres Maxie at the game?
Did you show Tyres Maxie in the stands? I think
the Maxi's at the game. Maybe maybe he's gonna go
to Dallas and take place of Brunston's place. How about
that next level stuff? So here we are three point
two seconds left to go. As we continue, will it

(13:21):
be a miracle comeback for the Dallas Mavericks or are
we headed to overtime? That's coming up next right air
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Speaker 7 (14:13):
Clearly the MAVs were thunderstruck tonight by Oklahoma City. TJ
had to be had to be man Brian and Angus
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Speaker 3 (14:38):
I want to drop a thunder Rolls all your attitude.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
That's not a feel good song. Thunder Rolls is not
a feel good song. Somebody ends up okay, yeah, but
you want everybody to end up okay at the end
of a song. Well, the Mavericks aren't okay. No, okay,
well it's too too I mean it's okay now. I
would have been better if there was three one was no,
wasn't well, yes, sure have been.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
They added up on the short end of thing. Would
have been better if the Knicks rip, but they're not.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
The final from Dallas, Oklahoma City wins it one oh five,
one oh one. It was a big comeback in the
final four minutes where it just looked like the Mavericks
ran out of gas after leading this game the entire way.
No play typifies the comeback by Oklahoma City more than
this where Shake Gildess Alexander corrals a loose ball in

(15:28):
the corner and Lively is defending him and it looks
like he's got him stuck in the corner, except Live
doesn't realize that. Hey, SGA still has his dribble, and
SGA decides, well, if you think I can only go
one way, I'm gonna go to the hoop for a
dunk lection. SGA takes it at hard away. Oh, that's ridiculous.

(15:50):
Shane giltis Alexander in his Pack nine eagle on TNT
with the call part of a big collapse by the
Maverick where they couldn't hit a shot, they couldn't get
the right flow going on offense, and the Mavericks lose.
Oklahoma City gets control of the series back, gets home
court back, winning it one oh five to one oh one.
Now Oklahoma City wins this game, But let's talk about

(16:14):
Luca for a few minutes. Because we talked about this
going into the playoffs, No player, individual player has more
at stake in the playoffs than Luca. This is a
guy that's been in the league now six years, and
this is a guy who, as many times as the
Mavericks have tried to do it, try to surround him
with the best talent. He's got the best player he's
ever played with, a with a Kyrie Irving who was

(16:35):
still in his prime and still here the Mavericks where
it's two two, they're going back to Oklahoma City and
Luka Doncic in the playoffs at best has been okay.
He has been all or nothing, but he has been
a volume shooter for the vast majority of the playoffs. Tonight, Uh,
you know, look twenty two, fifteen and five sounds like

(16:57):
a great night until you realize he's seven for seven
from the floor. Right. This follows games where he was
six for nineteen, nine for twenty six, ten for twenty four,
seven for twenty five, eleven for twenty six. He has
had a couple of games in the playoffs overall where
he is shot well, but for the vast majority he
has been a volume shooter, and it has not worked.

(17:18):
So far, the Mavericks have been fortunate to escape, but
eventually this is what's going to catch up with them.
And this is the big question is you have to
sit here and say, Okay, if the Mavericks can't get
out of this, you're looking at a Dallas team that, Okay,
they're not trending upward. They're not winning more games, they're
not getting closer to a championship. They're a nice fifty
win team that can maybe win around in the playoffs.

(17:40):
Maybe they don't. Luca is a great player, but you
can't lead them passed into the conference final and beyond
more than that, they went to the conference finals once
they got smoked. It's just not trending. Where if you're
a great team and you're built around a superstar, where
every year you are an NBA title threat, that's where
you should be. Like, even though the Bucks loss this year,

(18:01):
every year with Giannis he's won once, you know the
Bucks are a title thread, right, That's just how it goes.
And with Luca, if this is another year where Dallas
falls short and you look and go, man, the guy
shot horrendously in the playoffs, you have to wonder, all right,
is it still right to build around Luca or do
we just need guys now to supplement Luca Because Luca's

(18:25):
only gonna give us so much, get us so far,
we need other guys. Instead of saying, hey, what does
he need around him? It's what do we need that
can take a little bit off of Luca's plate because
we've tried being Luca driven now for a long time
and it hasn't work well.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
But you made the moves at the trade deadline and
got yourself better. I mean defensively, you gave up one
hundred points, right, we got to the magic one hundred mark.
Problem is you know Kyrie only has nine points in
this one, nine points, nine assists. You got more excellence
from the offensive end by Washington except four once again
miss free throw. Luca missing that free throw with ten

(18:58):
point one seconds left, hits the second, but that was
the opportunity to tie the game. So you're still chasing
down the stretch. Go on down line in the line.
You brought in Washington, You brought in Daniel Gafford, who
gives you defensive minutes, can give you a little bit offensively,
did give you ten and eight tonight, But shooting six
for twenty.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean, there's just no way to solve that, right,
if you have a bad shooting night.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Because rebounds they were about even right for the game
between them and the Thunder, but down the stretch when
it mattered, he got panicky.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Or so it seemed. On a few offensive sets.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
We saw him get bailed out with that three pointer
from Tim Hardaway Junior.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
But they were careless with the basketball.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
They had double the number of turnovers that the Thunder did,
including a number down the stretch where guys got themselves
trapped and were just kind of throwing the ball out
to anybody who would be able to catch it, looking
for contact down low and waiting on win that never came,
and a lot of standing around. He saw more of that.
It's the all right, didn't he really called that? Or

(20:07):
didn't call that foul clear reach ins whatever? That They
were left frustrated. So, yeah, you're at your wits end
here because you seemingly have done all that you needed
to to give Luca the help to better the team,
and you got a better defensive effort out of him
this year than you've ever gotten either. Right, He's played
on both ends of the court a little more than

(20:28):
you have in the past, and it's still not enough.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah. I mean, look, there's there's two ways to build
a team. There's building a team around one player, which
is what the Bucks have done with Giannis, what they
continue to try to do, and it's worked. Right, they
want a title. They're generally a threat unless Doc Rivers
is the coach or he gets hurt. Yeah, but but
with Luca, it's they've built around it. All, right, what
do we need to do? What does Luca need? All

(20:51):
this time he came in to the league, we knew
right away. Okay, he's going to be a star. Look
at what he's done for six years now. But they've
tried different combinations of guys and it hasn't worked till
this year. Hey, finally Kyrie Irving, who has been able
to play well and stay on the court and not
be out of the game. Because there are any knuckleheaded reasons.
This has been it. And now if you walk away

(21:13):
and go, man, we went out again in the second round,
and and and not that it's well we lost the
number one seed. Oklahoma City had nothing. They had nothing
a few years. You want to talk about where Oklahoma
City was when when Dallas got Luca. Look where Oklahoma
City's built themselves up and Dallas is still Hey where
Luca driven? So it's it's it's gonna be time to
the point where you say, Okay, we can't build around

(21:34):
him anymore. Instead it's okay, Luca does this, we need
other people to do different things. So we're not always
reliant on him because we've tried it so far and
it's not worked. Lucas not led us to the finals,
not led us to a title. He has got he
getting Lucas a terrific player, but is he exactly what
we think he is? And that's a fine line between
building around someone and building alongside someone. Right, you could

(21:57):
build around Lebron for a long time, but now you
have to build alongside what does Lebron need? With ad
and shooters all this, you can't do that anymore. And
with Luca. Yeah, I know he's only twenty five years old,
but again, six years you've seen the best of it.
But that's what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
It's like we're at that point the evaluation when he
is twenty five, when we've got quarterbacks that just are
getting drafted into the NFL and we'll take their first
snaps at twenty four and change as an NFL player.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Right that. Remember, but these guys come in now at
eighteen in NFL. I diok twenty one, twenty two.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Absolutely, But just the point being that you would say
you're still on the upward trajectory, that you haven't hit
the sweet spot of a guy's career just yet. I mean,
how many of these guys took a long time. The
honest was many years into his career. He's not as
young as folks would want to believe, right, I mean,
what was he class of twenty thirteen coming into the draft.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
It took years before he got to that title.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I mean so certainly from Mark Cuban and the brass
And it's not done.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I mean, look, it's two two, it's two two.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
He had a horrible shooting night, got bailed out on
that call that did put him to the line at
ten point one seconds left. Probably should have been a
fall on the ground before he made the move on
the court and pre shot motion I guess before he
started flailing and falling to the ground. But that being said,
I mean, you shoot fifty two percent from the free

(23:24):
throw line, right, they were twenty twelve of twenty three,
twelve to twenty three. There's your game. Look at could
shoot six for twenty. All he wants you hit free throws.
You win this game, period. Oh and look, I'm missing
that free throw with Tony's huge he misses one. PJ
misses one a little bit later on front Iron barely

(23:45):
drew iron on that at all.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
PJ.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Washington late in the game. So but you shoot twelve
of twenty three, man, that's that's the thing. I circle
more than his six of twenty. Guys are gonna shoot
six of twenty from the field.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Your stars do well, but you're hoping that is not
gonna give you once something gives you a bunch of
once in a while, six for twenty, but every other
game being six or twenty, because that's what Luca has
been like, two out of every three games has been
six for twenty seven out of nineteen, ten for twenty six.
I mean, that's that's what it's been this playoff. AOL
You okay, Doug, it's not It looks the stats look great,

(24:18):
the numbers look good, but you look at the volume shooting.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
All it cares about is a w not doing it
over six for twenty I'm gonna look at twelve for
twenty three. That's gonna punch me in the face far
more frequently.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Joining us now in the hot line for more on
this lead NBA Rider, managing editor for NBC Sports, who
could be close to hearing this theme again, depending on
how the right situation goes. He's on Twitter at Basketball Talk,
that is, at Basketball Talk Longtime, Front of the show,
Kurt Healing, Kurt, what's happening, man, I've not much.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
I hope to be hearing that again, but I'll just
state you in time before you ask when NBC is
hading sex or making two point five billion dollar decisions.
I am the first person they call.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like that's I think? Okay, good? Yeah, Hey, should we
keep round ball Rock? Should we call John test for
the rights? What should we do?

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Yeah, we should do that. By the way, they also
let me choose the coaches on the voice, like I
do it?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Oh cool? Oh good? Okay? Hey? Did they also let you,
uh to find out which plays you want to send
to the league because you're upset with how it's being
officiated because small market teams aren't getting the same fair
shake as big market teams.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Oh my gosh, that is that is that is an
old trope. We haven't heard that one in a while.
I love that he pulled this out, and like, you know,
it kind of works against the Lakers, I guess or something,
but where they've gotten to the line a lot. But
the Knicks, man, the Knicks that haven't won anything in
the years. That was a hard one, especially especially how

(25:57):
they play downhill in physical Wake. I was like, really
that where you can do with this?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
All right? So so before we get into the game,
time we get into Luca, how do you feel about that?
Like I say to myself, I know it's gonna end
for the Knicks at some point because this is just
a magic carpet ride. Uh do you think the Knicks
have enough the rest of the series.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
I just don't. I just I can't see how they
win two out of three. I think you can get
a hot Dante DiVincenzo game, you can get runs and hot,
but unless they get Nanobie back, I just they're so
short handed you don't really miss Also in the series, Bogdanovitch.
Bogdanovitch would be huge for them as a four facing
shooter in this series, and obviously there's Randall and you know,

(26:42):
Mitchell and all of it, Mitchel Robinson.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
But hopefully Frasier.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
I just feel like prom Tibo doesn't have enough pieces
to move around the chessboard.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
If Obie toppin we're back, he would have helped. He
would have been part of the rotation, all right, Jason's
burying the life and times in career. Luka Doncic after
a six and six for twenty performance tonight, we talked
about the miss free throw disappointing final four and a
half minutes of regulation here for Dallas.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
They just collapsed.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
They collapsed, and give Shay and Jay will credit for
stepping up right Like, frankly, they and jaywell In particularly
had not really had a great game and they'd been
trying to do what they've done all season, frankly, which
is drive into the lane, kick out, find guys that
the world wide open who can hit me. They haven't
been able to shoot well in the lane. They haven't

(27:34):
been able to you know, nothing seemed to be working.
And to their credit, those guys took on more and
started hitting shots and making plays. And you're right, mister
clutch Luca did not I mean miss free throw missed
clutch plays down the stretch is not efficient enough and
that leg's clearly bothering him. He does does not have
the same lift on that step back, and that's such

(27:57):
a weapon for him.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know, I look at it as, yes, he's twenty five,
but this is six years in for if they go
out in this round, and when you see other teams
that yes they build around superstars, but they build a
team up better, I feel like the Mavericks have to
look at saying, all right, we need to build a
little bit differently. Is it a building around Luca. We
need to maybe take some stuff off as play a
little bit, because you know, we've we're not trending upward.

(28:19):
We're not a titled threat every year, and we probably
should be better with Luca being our best player.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
I don't know. They were so good after the All
Star break when they started, when they with Gafford padding
in and just and starting Derek Jonesior, and their defense
got so much better. I think they're well, I think
they're closer. I think they've taken a step forward in
the second half of this year. They're up against the
number one seed and it's a good team, So I

(28:45):
think they're closer to tweaks rather than some sort of
massive overhaul, But they do need They're going to need
more out of other people. They're going to need it. Obviously. PJ.
Washington has been pretty brilliant all series, but they're gonna
need a little more out of Kyrie and somebody else
is gonna have to step up.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Held them the thunder that is to seven of twenty
seven from three point range, Kurt, I just think they
need more time practicing at the free throw line. I
think that's going to solve a lot of ills twelve
and twenty three today.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Yeah, that's a brutal. That's just in a tight game.
It's just the thing you look back as a coach,
wouldn't you and just win?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, that's it, right, one one after another.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
We're watching it happen live and then certainly down the
stretch Luca and PJ.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Washington missing key ones late.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
All right, Celtics, how does it end terribly for them?

Speaker 6 (29:35):
No, I'm just kidding, honestly, Like it's funny. I was
just trying to write that, like they're going to make
the finals. I don't see how they don't. But do
they strike fearing your guy's hearts at all.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
No, No, they have a buye into the finals. They
have a why into the finals.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Basically, yeah, they just they're not playing with urgency and
energy and everything they need to and ever comes out
of the West. However, you think this is going to
shake out any of the four teams that are left,
frankly will steam roll them just if they don't start
playing better, Like you're going to bring somebody into that

(30:12):
finals out of a gauntlet out West and they are
going to be honed in sharp and Boston can be down.
They could drop game one at home and find themselves
in a suddenly really deep hole. They can't keep playing
with this kind of just casualness like they didn't it
feel like, I mean, I felt like I was watching

(30:33):
them play a Tuesday night game in Orlando in.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Sure. Yeah, there's a playoff game. All right, we'll get
it going here, we'll get it going. No, Braden, we
got it. He's on Twitter op Basketball Talk. That is
at Basketball Talk Lead NBA Rider, Managing editor NBC Sports
dot Com, and the man they call for every big
decision in the NBA. Kurt is always by the appreciate
your time, man, We'll talk to you soon. Let's do
it again.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
I look forward to you guys. Take care man, miss
you guys.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
See Kurt, there goes Kurt Haleen The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Carmon. We got more NBA
on your way, including how a huge story from today
is going to shake out. I'll tell you how it's
gonna go. It broke today, I'll tell you how it's
gonna end. It's next right here, Jason.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh five Second Dance Party, Fox Sports Radio. The Jason
Smith Show is my best friend. Mike Harmon, wash my eyes.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I just want to listen to wasn't it just the
anniversary just the other day? Or they just relevate it.
But they didn't do the picture of them when it
was released.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
They did what they look like. Now, it's like, oh,
that's thirty years for that's wrong. I'm still pitching one
twelve year old kid playing the guitar and singing the song.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I want to say it's like twenty seven, twenty eight
years something like the kid's like forty exactly.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
I was like, oh, look at yeah, when the anniversary's over.
What's that the amount of days in a row that
we haven't heard this song? Yeah, yeah, that's true. Hey,
I'd rather hear this than tears are fears. This is
fun or a call from the next game. Yesterday, Bob,
We'll get to the Knicks. We'll get to the next speak.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Hey, big night in the NBA. Right, we talked to
Kurt heel in a few minutes ago, we talked Celtics,
we talked Thunder winning this game. We now know and
I can tell you exactly how double down, exactly how
the Bronnie James story is going to end. Right. We
told you this a few weeks ago when he declared
for the draft, keeping his intentions open about maybe going

(32:38):
back to school. Well, today we find out he's staying
in the draft. Got a clean bill of health, so
he is going to be in the upcoming NBA draft.
How is this going to go? Even though the Lakers
and there is a report this week and we'll do
everything they can to keep lebron James, Okay, they're not
gonna draft Brownie James, right, it would be it would
be too bad of an optic, and it'll be too

(32:59):
much where it looks like Lebron is running the team.
The Lakers are okay with some of it and to
an extent to make it seem like Lebron is calling
the shots, but not overly so. In drafting your son
whenever it is in the second round, is going to
be that optic. But that's not gonna crush it because
I don't think any other team is gonna draft Brownie either.

(33:20):
He's not a first round pick. He's someone that needs time,
he even said, and they understand that he's probably gonna
spend time in the G League. He's gonna have to
do that and work on a lot of things. Even
in the second round not gonna happen. Teams are not
going to grab a guy where hey, there's other players
similar to him, and who knows what we're getting into.
Are we gonna be criticized from two thousand miles away.

(33:40):
After a Laker game where the Lakers lose to the Nuggets.
Is Lebron gonna say, well, my son's not playing. I
don't know why that's going on. There's openings there. I
don't think any team is going to say, yes, we're
gonna open ourselves up to drafting Bronnie James. We don't
know if it's where. If it was a great, can't
miss prospect, yes, but if he's not, they're gonna lay
off him.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I would say, you say this in response to are
they gonna get criticized for two thousand miles away? If
that's any part of your pre draft consideration, just tender
your resignation right now. You don't know, you don't deserve
to have a job. If that's not good.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
There's a guys, there's a bunch of guys you'll take
flyers on. Are you gonna take flyers on a guy
where there's outside stuff that could get involved in this. No,
there's other players to take flyers on that you feel like, Okay,
we can control this story. But in the end, do
you think or not look at the ball? Could you
think anybody's gonna sign them free agency wise? And they
come out there, they're we're not gonna have LaVar ball

(34:35):
out here saying all kinds of crazy stuff. If a
lot of guys looked there, but they were great.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
But but but at the time they were drafted, they
were great prospects and they got paid.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Look at you just had makers couldn't wait to get
rid of Linzo of it had the greatest thing in history.
This is where NBA Players Association. I applaud you. This
guy hasn't played in two and a half years. He
got to exercise a player option for twenty one million.
Let's go go, so you shut up. But no one

(35:05):
to listen. No one's gonna draft him because because if
when you say there's a lot of guys we like,
we're not gonna bring that in. So he's not gonna
get drafted. But right after the draft is over, he's
gonna sign with the Lakers. And I am sure, not sure,
but do you think that Rich Paul and Clutch Sports
is gonna send out notes to other gms. Hey really
kind of want Bronnie to to play in a couple

(35:28):
of certain places if you draft him, and they're gonna say,
you know what, not getting involved. We're gonna stay out
of that. And right after the draft is over, the
Lakers will sign Brownie as an undrafted free agent and
he's gonna wind it and that will be the story
because they can still keep Lebron happy. They can still
draft Bronni. But it's but they can still have Bronnie,
but not make it look like, hey, we're doing what
we can now. It's hey, here's an undrafted player. We're

(35:50):
inviting him to camp with a chance to make the
team or play in the G League. That is acceptable
enough for the Lakers. Do you want to just play
a game of charades while you're at it? Process too?
Or his first word sounds like Bronny Bronnie James. Yes,
we got it, because that's basically what you're doing here.
So it's we we know the game that's been played.
Tell me it's not more intriguing for a draft that

(36:11):
has no sizzle at all. Zero people to be waiting
to see if Bronnie James gets drafted in the second round. Zero.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
That would actually give your ratings a boost for three minutes.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Hey, we're into the second round, Will Bronnie James get drafted?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
That's far more entertaining than anything else going around, right,
I mean, how many times did you see the here's
Zachy he's forty today?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah? Right, no, exactly, ding ding ding dings.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Oh and Bronnie James came in almost three inches shorter
than UFC lips.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Listen to him. You can excuse.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
His wingspan is that of a six to seven guy,
so we got that going.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
But he holds his hand over his head, he's like
seven to five. It's great, it doesn't count. So all
of that.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Look one, if I'm a GM, I'm just saying blank this,
I'll take him if he if he's got the same
draft greatest ten other guys. I'll take the upside that
I do get a growth spurt and I get the
notoriety that comes with drafting Lebron James Kidd, especially if
I'm an ulcer Ran franchise.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Because now I might get some juice.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Because if Rich Paul and his agency are able to
control things and being the invisible hand for other organizations,
which we've always surmised might be the case. Anyway, the
NBA has really big problems on its hands.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
They do. That's what's gonna happen. That's what Meanwhile, Lebron showed.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Up in the Gland tonight to make sure he got
someone to kiss his ass because he's not playing in
the places.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
No draft Lakers right after, like right after the draft
is over. Hey, the inca sign of that contract? How
is that any different? Coming up next, more big stuff
out of the NBA
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