April 4, 2024 • 39 mins
Bachelor generations collide when Kathy Swarts and Susan Noles from The Golden Bachelor hit the O.R.!
They spill all the behind the scenes secrets from making the first season of The Golden Bachelor and we find out how they’re handling the young guys in their DMs!
Plus, they share their honest first reactions of Gerry and we discover the power of finding your “friend soul mate”!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An. iHeartRadio podcast.
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in today. I am solo. Well,
he sends in the room with me, but I'm solo.
Otherwise Tanya is ohoh out of office. But no fear,
(00:22):
because I have two very special guests who actually kind
of remind me of Tanya and I in a few
years to come. You know them, we love them from
The Golden Bachelor. Kathy and Susan are coming in to
scrub in and I couldn't be more excited. They have
a new podcast coming out, it's Under Bachelor Happy Hour
(00:45):
Golden Hour, and I'm so excited to talk to them
because if you have been listening to this podcast, you
know I loved The Golden Bachelor and these two, in
my opinion, were the stars of the show. So please
give a warm welcome to Kathy and Susan. I'm so
excited that y'all are here.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We're excited to be here, thrilled.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We were chatting before the episode started and I have
so many I wanted to get it all out there
with y'all, and then I was like, what am I doing?
This is podcast material?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Don't ye save it, don't give it a what I want.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
To start with. First of all, you both look stunning,
just glammed and ready to go press day. Yeah yeah,
all the men, if you're listening.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's better as go on.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
How did the Golden Bachelor come about? How? What was
that process like going getting to the point where you
were cast it on the show?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The application process?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, like did you did you get nominated?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Show it? For me? A girlfriend called It's four years
ago in March and she said, oh my god, Susan,
you have to fill out this application. They're having an
old people Bachelor. I was like, what, So I applied
and never heard from them. Didn't just thought they weren't interested.
Three years later they called me and said they had
shut down production due to the pandemic and they were interested.
(02:15):
Wanted to know if I was still interested, and it
took off from there.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Wow, mine was quite different. I was at my daughter's home,
who had just had a brand new baby, and I
was scrolling through Facebook and I saw a ad for
women of my age to a planethot I could do that.
I was like to submit And the next day I
got a phone call and at first my daughter thought
it was a great idea. But after the first two
(02:39):
or three interviews, Mom, you're not really gonna do this?
Oh yes I am.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
She's like, this is all fun and games until it's not.
How so when what was that? Just in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Three, I fill out middle of May and they called
me the next day and left in July.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, two very different us, totally different.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I was telling y'all. I was saying, when I was
on The Bachelor years ago, I was nominated and they
called me the next day too, and I thought, out
of all the people, I have to take this chance.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well, they said on our season there were thirty thousand
women that applied, and so they took twenty two of
us and Susan and I still can't find a date.
So I don't know what that song.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
With that picture they said, we know Who's good TV? Yeah, okay.
My next question I was going to ask, what are
your kids now? After all a sudden done. Now you're
on this journey, You're having all these opportunities. What do
your kids think about this?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You want to go first?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, my kids are very supportive. Now I have a
couple of young grandchildren, so that interferes with babysitting duties
a little bit, but they're supportive. They would love for
me to find someone, and they know I'm having fun
and this is like the best time of my life,
so they're supportive.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
My daughter is my biggest fan. She helps me, guides
me through Instagram and so on. And my son's a
step back for some of the things that I said
on television. Christopher didn't talk to me for the first
month when I got home, like he had very little Mom.
Did you why would you say that on TV? He's
(04:14):
my six inch comment? I said, but if you watch
women tell All, I would have never said that. Had
I known he would be so upset, I would have
said eight inches right from the game.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I mean, I always think I'm always thinking about the
process and what it's like and thinking about watching my
cell phone. There was so so weird. The worst part,
the worst part I wanted to tell Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
For me, it wasn't I mean, other than me telling
Teresa that Zibit had I've had to relive that a
million times, but you know, it wasn't bad to rewatch.
I think for us it's hard because we know our
children are going to be watching where the younger bachelor
of Bachelorette. You know it's that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, there is that flip of your parents, you know
I had. I was like, my dad's going to watch
me make out with somebody. This is unnatural.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Well that's true. I didn't have that problem with making
out with anyone. Gary was not. We were in the
friend zone so that I didn't have to worry about
that issue.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And for me, I was unapologetically myself and I think
I'm funny. Sometimes just two I am watching it back
is like, oh why did I do that? Oh well,
it is what it is. Come on. The beggest thing
was the weight. I felt like I looked so heavy
and then meet people in the grocery store and they go,
oh my god, you're beautiful in person. Oh my god,
(05:40):
how did you lose so much weight so fast? I said,
I lost three pounds. Are you getting me?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Do you know? The camera?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
R really? And I get the same thing people all
on Instagram that yes, we all know Instagram. People behind
computers can say and do anything very brave or brazen,
whatever whichever. But I would say that they write things
all the time about wow, Kathy looks so great. Since
the show she had a facelift and cheek implants. I'm like, really,
(06:08):
have you I don't say it, but have you ever
had a facelift? I haven't, but I'm going to. You're
you're on a commission black and Blue for months.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, oh yeah, they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And we celebrated yesterday that when we do have one,
we'll let you know.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We're black and blue here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
We want a podcast about it, absolutely tailed right now.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
We don't have time for one.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, you're like, we got to be camera ready at
all times right now.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But if the plastic surgeons are watching listening, and we'd
like a.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Group discount, please a two for one right.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh heck, are you kidding? We'll get everybody from the
twenty two of us.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
We know people.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's the TV I don't want to watch, just like
all the ladies do what they want to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's out here. I love those.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I love the Nightmare at the Mansion.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Honestly, Han and Mansion. I loved watching I was saying earlier,
I loved watching The Golden Bachelor, and I am dating
someone who she I went on the Bachelor and then
thought I could kind of just be done with that
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part of my life. My girlfriend is a die hard
Bachelor fan, so I have watched every single season since
we've been together, and when we watched The Golden Bachelor,
it was just one of our favorite seasons of the franchise.
I think we've ever watched together.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Can I ask you what? It was so.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Wholesome in its own way, and I loved that all
of you guys had this bond that felt like, obviously
it's the competitive nature of dating one person, but I
felt like the friendship and the connection that all of
you had together was stronger than the competitive We're all
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dating the same man.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And it was that's the thing. We all made friends.
We all were happy when when whoever it was, got
a one on one date, we celebrated each other and
we believed in the process, and we knew that we
weren't going to all leave because bigamy wasn't a thing.
We weren't all going to leave with him, but one
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of us was going to leave with him. I think
that's what makes this show special, the friendships that came
from him. But what I find most interesting is the
audience that loved the show's It really is across generational
and the fact that young people want to hear what
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we have to say. We're not invisible anymore. We have
things to say and that are of value to young
people and old people. And I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And the difference between young and our age. We're not
afraid to talk about any subject. I mean, we've had
life experiences and we're not out to prove ourselves to anybody.
We are who, we are, confident in our own skin.
And this is how it is, from menopause to sex
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to child bearing years, all of.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It and and not and the and the sad things too,
you know, Susan's divorce, my husband died by suicide. Those
are really big topics that I.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Think is about the people that come up to us,
Kathy and share the story and say, you know, my
mom had cancer or somebody passed, And what you guys
say and who you guys are give us an uplift
different And.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I think there's been so many topics in our culture
frowns talk. You know, people are afraid to talk about
menopause or suicide or all mental health, diabetes, right, and
and I think that we can be a platform to
help people feel more comfortable in discussing those things.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, and I think it's people y'all's age, But also
I think there's you saying this is the best time
of your life. Earlier you said.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It is best.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, it is my life, I've said. When I applied
for the show, I wrote down. They asked me something
about why I wanted to do it, and I said,
I'm mentoring the last chapter of my life. Hopefully it's
going to be fifty years long, but I want it
to be the best chapter of my life. And that's
what I feel like I'm living.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's so I just find that to be so encouraging
for people our age, like obviously for people y'all's age
that are like maybe they feel like they've lived their
best years and now and they downhill from here. I
think it's so encouraging to hear that. But I also
think for people like me, who you know, with society,
the pressure of not wanting to get older, not wanting
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to look older, not how you know, people who are
still single. Am I going to be single forever? And
that not necessary being doomsday? Right, I know. I think
it's really about.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Having a positive energy and believing in yourself and believing
that the good things are coming. Yeah, and the way you.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Think we were talking about this yesterday. If they don't
come today, stay positive, they'll maybe come tomorrow. You know,
it's just keep knocking on the doors, keep get up
off the sofa, keep trying new things, meet new people,
and all of a sudden you realize your life is
changing and you're happier and you're doing more things. And
I think you're exactly right. People got to a certain
(11:34):
agent thought their life was over. No, your life is
an over friends, it's just beginning.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Love. For me, I was on every dating site. I thought,
oh my gosh, I have an opportunity to fall in love.
I didn't know who he was going to be, but
when I went into the show, I used to believe
that I was a woman that needed a man. Now
I know I'm a woman that a man needs. So
there's a big difference. I'm not searching anymore. If it happens,
(12:02):
God bless all of us, and if it doesn't, it's
okay too.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
But Susan, wouldn't you say we've talked about this, the
friendships that we've made. Susan and I didn't know each other.
She roommate and we just had this talk about instant connection,
not the romantic type for us, just friends, and.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We bought it. We finish each other sentence sometimes it's true.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's true, and I wouldn't give exchange that for anything.
But we didn't know that was going to happen. Seriously,
the d MS you and I have had, they it's
very little, and the ones I've had thirty five forty years, like, honey,
I have children older than you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We don't want to raise I don't want to raise
any more kids. I don't want to tea, I don't
want Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But for just a fun night, did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Crickets? A fun night? A fun night is watching Netflix
with popcorn or going to ski on the night slope
of the lights. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So y'all are y'all are soulmates in the friendship way,
and you sometimes meet people in that in that way,
And and there was this weird experience that y'all had,
which is a very unique experience. I don't know if
people who haven't been on the Bachelor can understand what
it's like to live together twenty four to seven without
(13:29):
any outside contact. You kind of just me neither. It
was like sad when they gave my phone back to me.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You have no choice but to get to know each
other because you don't have any contact with the out
So I'll never forget after that last ceremony and going
to the hotel and turning on a TV for the
first time and Malli had burned down and I was.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
We didn't know.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It was like, why did anybody tell us that? Because
they didn't want us to focus on anything else but
the people that were around us, And for good reason.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, I think another difference for Susan and me was
we Gary's a great guy, nice guy, but we realized,
many of us realized pretty early in the process that
he wasn't our guy. Yes, And so for me it
allowed me, not that I've ever been accused of being
anything other than who I am, but it allowed me
(14:22):
to really be who I am and enjoy it and
have fun and not not worry about anything. So for me,
that the whole process, the entire time, was just fun.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm helping everybody get ready, helping Teresa on the first
date doing her hair, and she tried to tell me
how to do it. I don't think so can.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I just say Susan is magic with a blow dryer,
a crowling iron, and a brush.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
You had to have one of those girls in there,
like I did their hair.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Every day, every night, every rose.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Let me, let me just give you a little picture
of behind the scenes so you know how it is.
You have to be downstairs ready certain time. The last
one down always was Susan, not because she's late, but
because she was Bobby Pinny, straight eye iron.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Literally, Susan was like you to give me an extra
ten minutes. It takes three minutes to do my area.
You know it's true, but it was It's good. It
was nice.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I was going to ask you about if you saw
Gary out in the wild, is he someone that you
would have been attracted to before the show?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I mean, he has a good look I would turn for.
I would definitely after speaking with him because of his
roots and where he's from and East Coast girls. I mean,
I have a big personality, you know, I feel like
friend zone, friend zone, friend zone.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
After first you'd look, you'd have one conversation and say,
you know what, not my guy.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Maybe not one, maybe two. I mean because the first
conversation we had, I was like, oh yeah, those dreamy eyes.
He really paid it tension. He was a great guy,
he really was.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
So my first conversation with him was I love to travel,
love to travel, and that's that's one of my criteria
for looking for my next partner is somebody who loves
to travel. So I was telling Garry about the fact
that I'd been in London, England visiting my niece and
for my birthday, and he said, oh, I don't think
we'd be a good match because I really don't like
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to travel outside the United States. So I was like, Okay,
that's really rare.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Flag rid flash, and now I will just enjoy my
time here with the girls.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
But then I thought to myself, could I see myself
in Indiana like running through a cornfield amazed, like, you know,
shucking corn I don't even know what they did there,
but it was kind of no.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You answered that yourself. That's right, Yeah, did you do you?
When you think about your cast of women there was
y'all were y'all had a bunch of standout one. I mean,
you had such a great cast, we did, but y'all
too seem to be the two that people kept referencing
and talking about. And now you have your own podcast
(17:09):
you're doing all this press. What do you think it
was about?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Do you think it's I think it was our energy
and them recognizing that we are true.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
To our word.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
We say it like it is. Well.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Also, Susan, come on, we are fast. Yeah, like you know,
I'm from Boston, she's from Philly.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Hundred percent Italian. Hit just flies and honestly.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I don't we talk about this all the time. We're
never sure what's coming out of our mouths, and you
know it's either funny or they're going to arrest me.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I mean it's we immediately give them a podcast, which
I want to get into, but first we're going to
take a break. All right, we're back. So before we
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took a break, we were talking about the podcast. So
I want to get into that because I can't imagine
that when you said yes to this adventure that you
thought you'd be sitting here a year later with a
podcast with someone that you dated the same man with.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Right, No, we didn't, not even a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Now, So it's just for everyone to clarify. It's under
the Happy Hour, the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast, Yes, and
it's the Golden Hour.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
It's Golden Hour, Golden Hour, under it's the one of
the shows under Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's it's it's okay though, we're going to teach them
how because you go to your podcast wherever you listen
to podcasts, you search Bachelor Happy Hour, Golden Hour and
it'll pop up right there. So I want to know
when they approach you about doing your own podcasts, what
was it an instant yes? Were you like, is this
a good idea?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
An instant?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Are you and your yes era?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yes? Yeah, I know a lot. I don't. I never
say no to an opportunity unless it's jumping off the
Empire State Building then.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But with the parachute, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I believe it was from doing them and being interviewed
that we love it so much, and then when they.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Approached us, it was like, no brain and let okay,
let's call out the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yes, we both love to talk a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I love that though, because I think it's such a
good banter and I love that you both feel very
comfortable calling each other out. Even just on the first podcast,
I was like, this is gonna be really fun because
it was like whoa, whoa, whoa? You're not going to
ask me that without answer each other.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So what for those who haven't listened or are interested,
what is the podcast going to be?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What is I mean? We're going to cover life from
our journey on the show and maybe interviewing people that
were on the show all the way up to menopause
and dating love.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, we want to really open up the airwaves for
people to find ways to live their best life. And
to the extent that we can have the conversation, we
have a platform to bring up some of these issues
and make people stay a little brighter. You know, after
they listen to our podcast, we want them to walk
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away with just a nugget of something that makes them happy,
makes them think about their life in a different way,
just an upbeat, happy way to look at life.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Prior to us doing the podcast, from fans coming up
to us and sharing their stories. That gave us even
more encouragement to reach out.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So Susan my son got married two weeks ago, and
Susan married them. She was the officient and we were
at a brunch that now it was in Texas, because
I live in Texas. We were at a brewery the
next morning from brunch. That's what Texas does you know?
Anytime the day exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There was a billion people. There was amazing, it was great.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
But these this two girls came up to us and said,
to me, my mom died in September, which coincidentally, so
did mine.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
So that number, ye did?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I said, how old?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Did?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I may have asked her how old is your dad?
She said seventy? I said, perfect, Send them my way
a little, a little soon, but she said, and she
started to tear up. She said that she hoped that
after watching us and listening to us, that her dad
would be able, their dad two girls would be able
to rebuild his life and find some happiness. And afterward
(21:47):
listening to us, she said she had hoped that it
would happen that we almost started crying. Was tearing up.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Crier, she's a crier. So much empathy, it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I mean, it's a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It is it is.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I do find that you've the stories and people finally
feel like they have this chance of like and people.
It was really interesting watching the dynamic of people who
have lost their spouse or gotten a divorce, or you know,
just weren't together anymore. I think That was another thing
that I loved about the show is that you felt
these people, all of you, coming to life again and
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it was such a beautiful thing to witness because we
haven't gotten to really see that half play out on TV,
especially in a series that's as big as The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
So I think it's the age, though. I keep coming
back to that. We are all women of a certain age,
and we've had we've had some of the highest highs
and some of the lowest lows. But here we are
triumphantly living and feeling good about ourselves, and I think
that comes with age.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah. I love the fact that our audience went from
young to old even in the middle. Who are you
calling old now? Our audience, Oh, they're gonna love that.
I mean, we have we reached people of all ages.
I think a lot of it was curiosity, Oh my gosh,
we're gonna watch the old broads trying to get a
dude on TV, you know, but it really struck home
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and they continued to watch.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But I think we're re finding look at us. I
think that's another comment we get. We don't I'm seventy
Susan sixty seven. We don't look or act our age,
because it's not about age, it's about being.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Tell me what that looks like. How do you look
your age or act your age? There's no such It's true.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
There's a stereotype of a certain and we are the
Golden Girls.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
And then you're like, and we're going to break those
stereotypes modern day Golden Girls show.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I want in the future. Okay, right, how fun would
that be?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Who are you going to be? I know any of
the We're.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Not going to do the same exact characters, but we
could do that.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
We could do that.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
We could do that and entertain everybody.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Honestly, if we do it, we're living together on the show.
We still do my hair.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh go yes, and I'll cook as well.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Wait a minute, metall, wait a second, I do dish.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
We can get into that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Oh please don't please let those meatballs die and refrigerat the.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Meat there we go sixty seven years of eating meatballs.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It wasn't the meatball.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We don't get gas from meatballs. People.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
What if it was the water here? Now it was the.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Onions in there, and I think that's what did it.
The best walk I've ever had, Edith, I love you.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You can clear it up. You heard it here. First
it was not the meatballs.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Can I just say the meatballs and the walk were fabulous,
So he's cooking it. I don't care. I was the
girl in the mansion doing the dishes.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I did the dishes too. There was a lot of dishes.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
The dish are still broken, yes it is why and
two of the ovens and the oven.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But can I just say at the end, like when
I first came, I had dishpan hands, like I'm just
constantly washing. Then literally watch two cups No, don't remember, seriously,
two cups your toast, clean bedroom every day, made the beds,
little Nancy would leave it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I'd be like tidying up the room, Susan. Literally such
a mom I would.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I might call it a clean freak aintal but whatever.
But Susie at the end, as we're getting down more
days into the show, like you do the dishes and
you come back and they're like six coffee like pink.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So many people i'd call them out on it though.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I did it, I think two days in a row
and I was like, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
How many girls in here? Why am I doing all.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
These ear cup when you don't have a dish wash.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
With age being able to just be like, gett, you're
too old for this. We were all scared of each other.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
And I have a question, though I am an eminem freak.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
The jars.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Can I just say I'd even take a job filling
those jars because it would be one handful for me,
one handful for that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In the oreowil.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Oreos double stuff. I mean literally, they're sitting there cooking
chicken this and parmesan that, and I'm like, give me
those eminounums.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
This I found amusing. When we went they had all
these frozen meals and I was like, what is all this?
And they go, well, you know that's what they're used
to buying because the young people don't cook as much. No, no, no, no, no,
where's the list? I need some fresh ingredients like and
then started, Yeah, it was a whole different Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
In Teresa, Teresa are green juice. She is she she
dorinks things that should be planted somewhere. I mean, she
is believable. She she it's Teresa plant. We just it's
these auctions in a power mixer. She's like trying. I'm like,
you gotta be kidding.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Straight from the ground.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
And really straight.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's something I would lire.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There was a moment in the mansion where were you
all playing Never Have? I?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Oh, my gosh, this first time I've ever heard of
such a game. And they got me out of the pool. Wow,
because I knew I didn't have to be miked when
I was in the water, so I lived in the water.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It was freezing, and I just suffered through it because
it was like my mic.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
One when I was there. But pulled me out of
the pool.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
So I'm in the kitchen eating eminems and.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And they're close ups with the no makeup, and the
lines are prominently.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Like I promise you were You know how people say
you notice your things yourself. I don't remember that one bit.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
But then Never Have I go, isn't that a drinking game?
And they're bringing us ice cream, Sondra being lactose and okay,
So we're.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Sitting with this game and I think I grew up
in a nunnery because my mouth is I got no
ice cream. They didn't show this, but I finally said,
after all these things I'd never done, I'm mostly sexually related,
and you know, I'm not a prude, but some of
the stuff was like, crazy prude, I'll get you back.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Live a little, cups, live a little. She even made
out in the back seat of the car.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I didn't know, what are you kidding me? No, it
was like, you know, having sex with four people on
the top of a canopy bed. I mean, like, but
here's the thing I finally said, which never made the cut.
You're left in the cutting room floor and they're all eating.
They're chowing down on ice cream. They're sending out for
gallons because these people are gonna need another court. Yeah.
(28:44):
So finally I said, never have I ever done washing
and ironing on a Sunday night? Yes, I have. And
I started eating the ice cream like it was.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It was pathetic.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, who had the were you up first?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I had to start it like I owned this game,
and it continued. It'll come with me for the rest
of my life, as well as the zipp things. So
when they were saying these things, yes, I kissed the girl, yeah,
she said a sexual relationship?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Did?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I was eating ice cream? I just yet everything. Then
everything turned up so down.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So I see what happened. She said, kiss the girl?
You said yes, And then it turned into.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It was a sexual It was like you want, I'm open.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Hey, so now the show at this point.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
In time, how long would that clock go before I
might switch teams?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I mean gonna ask. So was it just that I
made out with a friend and it was a one
night I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It was she didn't make kissed and I kissed the
girl and I liked it. That was it?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Remember you kiss the girl and you liked it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But you know they didn't show all the content. Not
that I want to throw anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
They can't show everything.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
One of the girls there when they were saying ever
had a threesome and they're all looking at me like
they're ready for me, I said, no, this one's like,
oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You've never had her threesome?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
No prude, rude? How does it feel? Susan? Wait the
backseat of the car when April said front seat, back seat,
steering wheel, dashboard, Like, yeah, I think April, she's done
it all got wait wait wait.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Also, the best line ever from April was I don't
ever want to be the wife. I always want to
be the mistress. The mistresses get treated the best.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I'm like, like a Holidays, you're smarter than that.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
These are things that it was all done and fun
and but so now since the show Susan who does
favor Chris Jenner and our friendship? Peoples right to me,
I'm Caitlyn Jenner. I am brace. I'm like, thank you
for the compliment. Caitlyn Jenner is a beautiful woman. She's stunning.
(31:01):
She is stunning, so.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
More beautiful as a woman than she was. I think, well,
looks great.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Do people ever ask that, I guess there a connection
between two people?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Ask us, yeah, all the time. Now she's just my
best friend.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
We're just friends. And you know if she does my hair,
own cooks for me.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I mean, you know, I doesn't have to have a
sexual element. I'm telling you so.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I think sometimes honestly been serious for a second, which
I really am, I think that people find it's hard
to find friends that click like we have clicked, and
especially at our age and life. And that's why I
feel so grateful. And I think sometimes people look at
that and like, yeah, that's not a real thing.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
So my cousin Donna, and I quote Donna, I hope
you get to hear this, cousin don Donnas, you're not
allowed to accept any more friends. You have enough friends.
No more friends, there's not enough time. I've been on
stage all my life doing hair. I entertained people in
(32:26):
the salon for forty years. It's just who I am.
So this was just a continuation of who I am.
And I think it's difficult again for people out there
our age to make friends, especially you know, when you
move to a new city, you don't bond like best
friends from college or school or from your workplace. You know,
(32:47):
it's more difficult.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And when I've talked to my daughter all the time
about this because she just had a baby, and you know,
she says, gosh, what if we ever moved? How While
I make friends when you're young, if you have children
or your namehood, you're out at bars. It's so easy.
The gym, you have things to make friends. But when
you get to be our age, then those things are removed,
(33:09):
right And so I get out, I go to yogurt,
I go to a pilates class, and I work out
at the gym. But you really have to work harder
at making friends. So I'm thanking the Bachelor because we
had so many sweet friends.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And I recommend get stuck in a room for six
weeks with women. You'll find one you'll.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Like someone who will do your hair, and yeah, is
that why you liked me? Kat listen doing my hair? Wait?
Can I just say people have talked online about my hair?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Susan told me to cut it. Susan told me to
go darker, and Susan told me to get it straight.
And so let me say publicly, for the nineteenth time,
thank you Susan.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I was actually going to say, your hair looks so good?
How it is? I should have known it was due
to the advice.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
It's a thing that I have. And I saw her
and she was getting highlights and it wasn't bad at all.
It was pretty. But I just said, you're striking. You
have beautiful cheekbones, great eyes. Her hair should be a
certain length, and you know, I just know a lot
of my clients slash friends now have told me over
(34:17):
the years they were afraid to sit in my chair
for what I might say.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Can I just say the other night we were at
the iHeart Music Awards, which may I say, was the
most fun. Thank you, iHeart Radio the best. But Susan
is sitting next to me. I'm not sure we're not
going to mention any names, but she's pointing at the
performers going she used to change the haircut? Yeap that color, Susan.
Can we just enjoy this evening? Do you really have
(34:42):
to critique their hands?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's something you can't help it. I couldn't tell you
what they had on the hair. Oh that shade is
so I could make her.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Look You're never at peace, You're always watching.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
If you ever go to church, and I used to
sit in the back of the church, I mean back
of the pew, and the lady in front of me,
I'm like, did she not have a rear view mirror?
Or she got bed head down to here in the
front sal tee? Stuff like what it's wrong?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Sometimes I tell my girlfriends sometimes will leave the house
and I'll see the back of her head and I'm like,
did you that's none of That's none of my business
what my hair looks like.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
To you, Because I'm one of those girls. I got
you to. Here's the thing. I want people to see
me coming and say, she looks great. I love. I
don't give us what they say. When I'm gone, I'm
past them. It's over.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Unless you're my friends.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
The interaction has happened, right, it's over. Okay, dating, do.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You hear those sounds?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
We're both ready, you're both ready willing this stage. I
know exactly what I need in my life or I
want in my life.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
And it's different than when we were young. When when
I was young, and I got married at twenty and
was married almost forty six years. So when I got
married and I married a great guy, I was very lucky, truly.
But when you're young and getting married, you're looking for
that partner to raise children with, to build a life with,
to work together, you know, financially, buy a first all
(36:18):
those things when you're our age. I can't speak for Susan,
but for me, I'm looking for someone to have fun with,
someone to travel with, someone to laugh a share sunsets with. Yeah,
join me in this last chapter that.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
The moment especial, but somebody that could understand and appreciate
who I am. Okay, but what my big personality and
laugh they had last sense of humor.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
We do not want to be a nurse or a purse.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, you know the nurse part does happen later in
life sometimes might be us. Will you take care of it? Jill, Kathy,
I heard somebody, but I'll visit and cook.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Women.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
She'll support you.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Wait, I'll be therefore a.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Blue when I'm ninety.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Let me tell you when you're laid down the single.
Bye everybody, you look good. I promise you you'll look I'm.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Never sayingle bye. But seriously, we would love to date.
But honestly, in my dms, and there's not been many
for either of us, but in mine it's been. I
had a thirty five year old, a couple of forty
year olds, and they're good looking guys. But I've already rased.
I raised my husband. I'm not going back there.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm not in teaching mode.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It's not in teaching them for any any type of lesson.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Like waiting for thirty. My children are thirty five and
thirty children.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Would absolutely die either of you took those opportunities.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I would never do that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Wait a minute, I'll flirt. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Susan, Yes,
yout you just told me. Age is only a number.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Oh it is? So how already did you back to
sixty seven years?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Know the age was twelve years and you're said ten.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Very good. I'm maybe fourteen if it was really special connection.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
But here's my thing. I want a guy who's retired,
because if you can't do fun things.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Your best friend, you want your buddy buddy.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
You don't want sex.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Off the record, now, chill off the record never has Yes,
I hope it still works.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'm telling I'm being told it's time to wrap upt
sit here and chot for hours with you guys. But
I am so happy for you and it's been I'm serious, like,
I was so excited to do this podcast with y'all
because I'm a fan, and I also I am just
so happy that y'all are having the same experiences and
(38:43):
opportunities that that I've gotten to have having gone on
the Bachelor and everyone check out the podcast Bachelor Happy Hour,
Golden Hour.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Golden Hour click follow, follow us sending your questions.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
We love the questions.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, a question to me to Bachelor Nation dot com
okay slash Goldenour.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Bachelor Nation dot com slash Golden Hour.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And they're starting to come in. They're pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Well, I can't wait to listen to more episodes. Thank
you guys for coming on
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An. iHeartRadio podcast.
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in today. I am solo. Well,
he sends in the room with me, but I'm solo.
Otherwise Tanya is ohoh out of office. But no fear,
(00:22):
because I have two very special guests who actually kind
of remind me of Tanya and I in a few
years to come. You know them, we love them from
The Golden Bachelor. Kathy and Susan are coming in to
scrub in and I couldn't be more excited. They have
a new podcast coming out, it's Under Bachelor Happy Hour
(00:45):
Golden Hour, and I'm so excited to talk to them
because if you have been listening to this podcast, you
know I loved The Golden Bachelor and these two, in
my opinion, were the stars of the show. So please
give a warm welcome to Kathy and Susan. I'm so
excited that y'all are here.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We're excited to be here, thrilled.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We were chatting before the episode started and I have
so many I wanted to get it all out there
with y'all, and then I was like, what am I doing?
This is podcast material?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Don't ye save it, don't give it a what I want.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
To start with. First of all, you both look stunning,
just glammed and ready to go press day. Yeah yeah,
all the men, if you're listening.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's better as go on.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
How did the Golden Bachelor come about? How? What was
that process like going getting to the point where you
were cast it on the show?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The application process?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, like did you did you get nominated?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Show it? For me? A girlfriend called It's four years
ago in March and she said, oh my god, Susan,
you have to fill out this application. They're having an
old people Bachelor. I was like, what, So I applied
and never heard from them. Didn't just thought they weren't interested.
Three years later they called me and said they had
shut down production due to the pandemic and they were interested.
(02:15):
Wanted to know if I was still interested, and it
took off from there.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Wow, mine was quite different. I was at my daughter's home,
who had just had a brand new baby, and I
was scrolling through Facebook and I saw a ad for
women of my age to a planethot I could do that.
I was like to submit And the next day I
got a phone call and at first my daughter thought
it was a great idea. But after the first two
(02:39):
or three interviews, Mom, you're not really gonna do this?
Oh yes I am.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
She's like, this is all fun and games until it's not.
How so when what was that? Just in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Three, I fill out middle of May and they called
me the next day and left in July.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, two very different us, totally different.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I was telling y'all. I was saying, when I was
on The Bachelor years ago, I was nominated and they
called me the next day too, and I thought, out
of all the people, I have to take this chance.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well, they said on our season there were thirty thousand
women that applied, and so they took twenty two of
us and Susan and I still can't find a date.
So I don't know what that song.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
With that picture they said, we know Who's good TV? Yeah, okay.
My next question I was going to ask, what are
your kids now? After all a sudden done. Now you're
on this journey, You're having all these opportunities. What do
your kids think about this?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You want to go first?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, my kids are very supportive. Now I have a
couple of young grandchildren, so that interferes with babysitting duties
a little bit, but they're supportive. They would love for
me to find someone, and they know I'm having fun
and this is like the best time of my life,
so they're supportive.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
My daughter is my biggest fan. She helps me, guides
me through Instagram and so on. And my son's a
step back for some of the things that I said
on television. Christopher didn't talk to me for the first
month when I got home, like he had very little Mom.
Did you why would you say that on TV? He's
(04:14):
my six inch comment? I said, but if you watch
women tell All, I would have never said that. Had
I known he would be so upset, I would have
said eight inches right from the game.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I mean, I always think I'm always thinking about the
process and what it's like and thinking about watching my
cell phone. There was so so weird. The worst part,
the worst part I wanted to tell Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
For me, it wasn't I mean, other than me telling
Teresa that Zibit had I've had to relive that a
million times, but you know, it wasn't bad to rewatch.
I think for us it's hard because we know our
children are going to be watching where the younger bachelor
of Bachelorette. You know it's that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, there is that flip of your parents, you know
I had. I was like, my dad's going to watch
me make out with somebody. This is unnatural.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Well that's true. I didn't have that problem with making
out with anyone. Gary was not. We were in the
friend zone so that I didn't have to worry about
that issue.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And for me, I was unapologetically myself and I think
I'm funny. Sometimes just two I am watching it back
is like, oh why did I do that? Oh well,
it is what it is. Come on. The beggest thing
was the weight. I felt like I looked so heavy
and then meet people in the grocery store and they go,
oh my god, you're beautiful in person. Oh my god,
(05:40):
how did you lose so much weight so fast? I said,
I lost three pounds. Are you getting me?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Do you know? The camera?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
R really? And I get the same thing people all
on Instagram that yes, we all know Instagram. People behind
computers can say and do anything very brave or brazen,
whatever whichever. But I would say that they write things
all the time about wow, Kathy looks so great. Since
the show she had a facelift and cheek implants. I'm like, really,
(06:08):
have you I don't say it, but have you ever
had a facelift? I haven't, but I'm going to. You're
you're on a commission black and Blue for months.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, oh yeah, they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And we celebrated yesterday that when we do have one,
we'll let you know.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We're black and blue here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
We want a podcast about it, absolutely tailed right now.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
We don't have time for one.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, you're like, we got to be camera ready at
all times right now.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But if the plastic surgeons are watching listening, and we'd
like a.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Group discount, please a two for one right.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh heck, are you kidding? We'll get everybody from the
twenty two of us.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
We know people.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's the TV I don't want to watch, just like
all the ladies do what they want to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's out here. I love those.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I love the Nightmare at the Mansion.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Honestly, Han and Mansion. I loved watching I was saying earlier,
I loved watching The Golden Bachelor, and I am dating
someone who she I went on the Bachelor and then
thought I could kind of just be done with that
(07:21):
part of my life. My girlfriend is a die hard
Bachelor fan, so I have watched every single season since
we've been together, and when we watched The Golden Bachelor,
it was just one of our favorite seasons of the franchise.
I think we've ever watched together.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Can I ask you what? It was so.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Wholesome in its own way, and I loved that all
of you guys had this bond that felt like, obviously
it's the competitive nature of dating one person, but I
felt like the friendship and the connection that all of
you had together was stronger than the competitive We're all
(08:03):
dating the same man.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And it was that's the thing. We all made friends.
We all were happy when when whoever it was, got
a one on one date, we celebrated each other and
we believed in the process, and we knew that we
weren't going to all leave because bigamy wasn't a thing.
We weren't all going to leave with him, but one
(08:25):
of us was going to leave with him. I think
that's what makes this show special, the friendships that came
from him. But what I find most interesting is the
audience that loved the show's It really is across generational
and the fact that young people want to hear what
(08:46):
we have to say. We're not invisible anymore. We have
things to say and that are of value to young
people and old people. And I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And the difference between young and our age. We're not
afraid to talk about any subject. I mean, we've had
life experiences and we're not out to prove ourselves to anybody.
We are who, we are, confident in our own skin.
And this is how it is, from menopause to sex
(09:16):
to child bearing years, all of.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It and and not and the and the sad things too,
you know, Susan's divorce, my husband died by suicide. Those
are really big topics that I.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Think is about the people that come up to us,
Kathy and share the story and say, you know, my
mom had cancer or somebody passed, And what you guys
say and who you guys are give us an uplift
different And.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I think there's been so many topics in our culture
frowns talk. You know, people are afraid to talk about
menopause or suicide or all mental health, diabetes, right, and
and I think that we can be a platform to
help people feel more comfortable in discussing those things.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, and I think it's people y'all's age, But also
I think there's you saying this is the best time
of your life. Earlier you said.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It is best.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, it is my life, I've said. When I applied
for the show, I wrote down. They asked me something
about why I wanted to do it, and I said,
I'm mentoring the last chapter of my life. Hopefully it's
going to be fifty years long, but I want it
to be the best chapter of my life. And that's
what I feel like I'm living.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's so I just find that to be so encouraging
for people our age, like obviously for people y'all's age
that are like maybe they feel like they've lived their
best years and now and they downhill from here. I
think it's so encouraging to hear that. But I also
think for people like me, who you know, with society,
the pressure of not wanting to get older, not wanting
(10:53):
to look older, not how you know, people who are
still single. Am I going to be single forever? And
that not necessary being doomsday? Right, I know. I think
it's really about.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Having a positive energy and believing in yourself and believing
that the good things are coming. Yeah, and the way you.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Think we were talking about this yesterday. If they don't
come today, stay positive, they'll maybe come tomorrow. You know,
it's just keep knocking on the doors, keep get up
off the sofa, keep trying new things, meet new people,
and all of a sudden you realize your life is
changing and you're happier and you're doing more things. And
I think you're exactly right. People got to a certain
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agent thought their life was over. No, your life is
an over friends, it's just beginning.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Love. For me, I was on every dating site. I thought,
oh my gosh, I have an opportunity to fall in love.
I didn't know who he was going to be, but
when I went into the show, I used to believe
that I was a woman that needed a man. Now
I know I'm a woman that a man needs. So
there's a big difference. I'm not searching anymore. If it happens,
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God bless all of us, and if it doesn't, it's
okay too.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
But Susan, wouldn't you say we've talked about this, the
friendships that we've made. Susan and I didn't know each other.
She roommate and we just had this talk about instant connection,
not the romantic type for us, just friends, and.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We bought it. We finish each other sentence sometimes it's true.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's true, and I wouldn't give exchange that for anything.
But we didn't know that was going to happen. Seriously,
the d MS you and I have had, they it's
very little, and the ones I've had thirty five forty years, like, honey,
I have children older than you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We don't want to raise I don't want to raise
any more kids. I don't want to tea, I don't
want Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But for just a fun night, did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Crickets? A fun night? A fun night is watching Netflix
with popcorn or going to ski on the night slope
of the lights. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So y'all are y'all are soulmates in the friendship way,
and you sometimes meet people in that in that way,
And and there was this weird experience that y'all had,
which is a very unique experience. I don't know if
people who haven't been on the Bachelor can understand what
it's like to live together twenty four to seven without
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any outside contact. You kind of just me neither. It
was like sad when they gave my phone back to me.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You have no choice but to get to know each
other because you don't have any contact with the out
So I'll never forget after that last ceremony and going
to the hotel and turning on a TV for the
first time and Malli had burned down and I was.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
We didn't know.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It was like, why did anybody tell us that? Because
they didn't want us to focus on anything else but
the people that were around us, And for good reason.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, I think another difference for Susan and me was
we Gary's a great guy, nice guy, but we realized,
many of us realized pretty early in the process that
he wasn't our guy. Yes, And so for me it
allowed me, not that I've ever been accused of being
anything other than who I am, but it allowed me
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to really be who I am and enjoy it and
have fun and not not worry about anything. So for me,
that the whole process, the entire time, was just fun.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm helping everybody get ready, helping Teresa on the first
date doing her hair, and she tried to tell me
how to do it. I don't think so can.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I just say Susan is magic with a blow dryer,
a crowling iron, and a brush.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
You had to have one of those girls in there,
like I did their hair.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Every day, every night, every rose.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Let me, let me just give you a little picture
of behind the scenes so you know how it is.
You have to be downstairs ready certain time. The last
one down always was Susan, not because she's late, but
because she was Bobby Pinny, straight eye iron.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Literally, Susan was like you to give me an extra
ten minutes. It takes three minutes to do my area.
You know it's true, but it was It's good. It
was nice.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I was going to ask you about if you saw
Gary out in the wild, is he someone that you
would have been attracted to before the show?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I mean, he has a good look I would turn for.
I would definitely after speaking with him because of his
roots and where he's from and East Coast girls. I mean,
I have a big personality, you know, I feel like
friend zone, friend zone, friend zone.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
After first you'd look, you'd have one conversation and say,
you know what, not my guy.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Maybe not one, maybe two. I mean because the first
conversation we had, I was like, oh yeah, those dreamy eyes.
He really paid it tension. He was a great guy,
he really was.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
So my first conversation with him was I love to travel,
love to travel, and that's that's one of my criteria
for looking for my next partner is somebody who loves
to travel. So I was telling Garry about the fact
that I'd been in London, England visiting my niece and
for my birthday, and he said, oh, I don't think
we'd be a good match because I really don't like
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to travel outside the United States. So I was like, Okay,
that's really rare.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Flag rid flash, and now I will just enjoy my
time here with the girls.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
But then I thought to myself, could I see myself
in Indiana like running through a cornfield amazed, like, you know,
shucking corn I don't even know what they did there,
but it was kind of no.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You answered that yourself. That's right, Yeah, did you do you?
When you think about your cast of women there was
y'all were y'all had a bunch of standout one. I mean,
you had such a great cast, we did, but y'all
too seem to be the two that people kept referencing
and talking about. And now you have your own podcast
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you're doing all this press. What do you think it
was about?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Do you think it's I think it was our energy
and them recognizing that we are true.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
To our word.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
We say it like it is. Well.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Also, Susan, come on, we are fast. Yeah, like you know,
I'm from Boston, she's from Philly.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Hundred percent Italian. Hit just flies and honestly.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I don't we talk about this all the time. We're
never sure what's coming out of our mouths, and you
know it's either funny or they're going to arrest me.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I mean it's we immediately give them a podcast, which
I want to get into, but first we're going to
take a break. All right, we're back. So before we
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took a break, we were talking about the podcast. So
I want to get into that because I can't imagine
that when you said yes to this adventure that you
thought you'd be sitting here a year later with a
podcast with someone that you dated the same man with.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Right, No, we didn't, not even a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Now, So it's just for everyone to clarify. It's under
the Happy Hour, the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast, Yes, and
it's the Golden Hour.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
It's Golden Hour, Golden Hour, under it's the one of
the shows under Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's it's it's okay though, we're going to teach them
how because you go to your podcast wherever you listen
to podcasts, you search Bachelor Happy Hour, Golden Hour and
it'll pop up right there. So I want to know
when they approach you about doing your own podcasts, what
was it an instant yes? Were you like, is this
a good idea?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
An instant?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Are you and your yes era?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yes? Yeah, I know a lot. I don't. I never
say no to an opportunity unless it's jumping off the
Empire State Building then.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But with the parachute, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I believe it was from doing them and being interviewed
that we love it so much, and then when they.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Approached us, it was like, no brain and let okay,
let's call out the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yes, we both love to talk a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I love that though, because I think it's such a
good banter and I love that you both feel very
comfortable calling each other out. Even just on the first podcast,
I was like, this is gonna be really fun because
it was like whoa, whoa, whoa? You're not going to
ask me that without answer each other.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So what for those who haven't listened or are interested,
what is the podcast going to be?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What is I mean? We're going to cover life from
our journey on the show and maybe interviewing people that
were on the show all the way up to menopause
and dating love.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, we want to really open up the airwaves for
people to find ways to live their best life. And
to the extent that we can have the conversation, we
have a platform to bring up some of these issues
and make people stay a little brighter. You know, after
they listen to our podcast, we want them to walk
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away with just a nugget of something that makes them happy,
makes them think about their life in a different way,
just an upbeat, happy way to look at life.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Prior to us doing the podcast, from fans coming up
to us and sharing their stories. That gave us even
more encouragement to reach out.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So Susan my son got married two weeks ago, and
Susan married them. She was the officient and we were
at a brunch that now it was in Texas, because
I live in Texas. We were at a brewery the
next morning from brunch. That's what Texas does you know?
Anytime the day exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There was a billion people. There was amazing, it was great.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
But these this two girls came up to us and said,
to me, my mom died in September, which coincidentally, so
did mine.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
So that number, ye did?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I said, how old?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Did?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I may have asked her how old is your dad?
She said seventy? I said, perfect, Send them my way
a little, a little soon, but she said, and she
started to tear up. She said that she hoped that
after watching us and listening to us, that her dad
would be able, their dad two girls would be able
to rebuild his life and find some happiness. And afterward
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listening to us, she said she had hoped that it
would happen that we almost started crying. Was tearing up.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Crier, she's a crier. So much empathy, it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I mean, it's a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It is it is.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I do find that you've the stories and people finally
feel like they have this chance of like and people.
It was really interesting watching the dynamic of people who
have lost their spouse or gotten a divorce, or you know,
just weren't together anymore. I think That was another thing
that I loved about the show is that you felt
these people, all of you, coming to life again and
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it was such a beautiful thing to witness because we
haven't gotten to really see that half play out on TV,
especially in a series that's as big as The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
So I think it's the age, though. I keep coming
back to that. We are all women of a certain age,
and we've had we've had some of the highest highs
and some of the lowest lows. But here we are
triumphantly living and feeling good about ourselves, and I think
that comes with age.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah. I love the fact that our audience went from
young to old even in the middle. Who are you
calling old now? Our audience, Oh, they're gonna love that.
I mean, we have we reached people of all ages.
I think a lot of it was curiosity, Oh my gosh,
we're gonna watch the old broads trying to get a
dude on TV, you know, but it really struck home
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and they continued to watch.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But I think we're re finding look at us. I
think that's another comment we get. We don't I'm seventy
Susan sixty seven. We don't look or act our age,
because it's not about age, it's about being.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Tell me what that looks like. How do you look
your age or act your age? There's no such It's true.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
There's a stereotype of a certain and we are the
Golden Girls.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
And then you're like, and we're going to break those
stereotypes modern day Golden Girls show.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I want in the future. Okay, right, how fun would
that be?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Who are you going to be? I know any of
the We're.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Not going to do the same exact characters, but we
could do that.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
We could do that.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
We could do that and entertain everybody.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Honestly, if we do it, we're living together on the show.
We still do my hair.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh go yes, and I'll cook as well.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Wait a minute, metall, wait a second, I do dish.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
We can get into that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Oh please don't please let those meatballs die and refrigerat the.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Meat there we go sixty seven years of eating meatballs.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It wasn't the meatball.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We don't get gas from meatballs. People.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
What if it was the water here? Now it was the.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Onions in there, and I think that's what did it.
The best walk I've ever had, Edith, I love you.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You can clear it up. You heard it here. First
it was not the meatballs.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Can I just say the meatballs and the walk were fabulous,
So he's cooking it. I don't care. I was the
girl in the mansion doing the dishes.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I did the dishes too. There was a lot of dishes.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
The dish are still broken, yes it is why and
two of the ovens and the oven.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But can I just say at the end, like when
I first came, I had dishpan hands, like I'm just
constantly washing. Then literally watch two cups No, don't remember, seriously,
two cups your toast, clean bedroom every day, made the beds,
little Nancy would leave it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I'd be like tidying up the room, Susan. Literally such
a mom I would.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I might call it a clean freak aintal but whatever.
But Susie at the end, as we're getting down more
days into the show, like you do the dishes and
you come back and they're like six coffee like pink.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So many people i'd call them out on it though.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I did it, I think two days in a row
and I was like, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
How many girls in here? Why am I doing all.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
These ear cup when you don't have a dish wash.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
With age being able to just be like, gett, you're
too old for this. We were all scared of each other.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
And I have a question, though I am an eminem freak.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
The jars.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Can I just say I'd even take a job filling
those jars because it would be one handful for me,
one handful for that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In the oreowil.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Oreos double stuff. I mean literally, they're sitting there cooking
chicken this and parmesan that, and I'm like, give me
those eminounums.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
This I found amusing. When we went they had all
these frozen meals and I was like, what is all this?
And they go, well, you know that's what they're used
to buying because the young people don't cook as much. No, no, no, no, no,
where's the list? I need some fresh ingredients like and
then started, Yeah, it was a whole different Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
In Teresa, Teresa are green juice. She is she she
dorinks things that should be planted somewhere. I mean, she
is believable. She she it's Teresa plant. We just it's
these auctions in a power mixer. She's like trying. I'm like,
you gotta be kidding.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Straight from the ground.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
And really straight.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's something I would lire.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There was a moment in the mansion where were you
all playing Never Have? I?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Oh, my gosh, this first time I've ever heard of
such a game. And they got me out of the pool. Wow,
because I knew I didn't have to be miked when
I was in the water, so I lived in the water.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It was freezing, and I just suffered through it because
it was like my mic.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
One when I was there. But pulled me out of
the pool.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
So I'm in the kitchen eating eminems and.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And they're close ups with the no makeup, and the
lines are prominently.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Like I promise you were You know how people say
you notice your things yourself. I don't remember that one bit.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
But then Never Have I go, isn't that a drinking game?
And they're bringing us ice cream, Sondra being lactose and okay,
So we're.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Sitting with this game and I think I grew up
in a nunnery because my mouth is I got no
ice cream. They didn't show this, but I finally said,
after all these things I'd never done, I'm mostly sexually related,
and you know, I'm not a prude, but some of
the stuff was like, crazy prude, I'll get you back.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Live a little, cups, live a little. She even made
out in the back seat of the car.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I didn't know, what are you kidding me? No, it
was like, you know, having sex with four people on
the top of a canopy bed. I mean, like, but
here's the thing I finally said, which never made the cut.
You're left in the cutting room floor and they're all eating.
They're chowing down on ice cream. They're sending out for
gallons because these people are gonna need another court. Yeah.
(28:44):
So finally I said, never have I ever done washing
and ironing on a Sunday night? Yes, I have. And
I started eating the ice cream like it was.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It was pathetic.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, who had the were you up first?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I had to start it like I owned this game,
and it continued. It'll come with me for the rest
of my life, as well as the zipp things. So
when they were saying these things, yes, I kissed the girl, yeah,
she said a sexual relationship?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Did?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I was eating ice cream? I just yet everything. Then
everything turned up so down.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So I see what happened. She said, kiss the girl?
You said yes, And then it turned into.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It was a sexual It was like you want, I'm open.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Hey, so now the show at this point.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
In time, how long would that clock go before I
might switch teams?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I mean gonna ask. So was it just that I
made out with a friend and it was a one
night I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It was she didn't make kissed and I kissed the
girl and I liked it. That was it?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Remember you kiss the girl and you liked it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But you know they didn't show all the content. Not
that I want to throw anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
They can't show everything.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
One of the girls there when they were saying ever
had a threesome and they're all looking at me like
they're ready for me, I said, no, this one's like,
oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You've never had her threesome?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
No prude, rude? How does it feel? Susan? Wait the
backseat of the car when April said front seat, back seat,
steering wheel, dashboard, Like, yeah, I think April, she's done
it all got wait wait wait.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Also, the best line ever from April was I don't
ever want to be the wife. I always want to
be the mistress. The mistresses get treated the best.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I'm like, like a Holidays, you're smarter than that.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
These are things that it was all done and fun
and but so now since the show Susan who does
favor Chris Jenner and our friendship? Peoples right to me,
I'm Caitlyn Jenner. I am brace. I'm like, thank you
for the compliment. Caitlyn Jenner is a beautiful woman. She's stunning.
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She is stunning, so.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
More beautiful as a woman than she was. I think, well,
looks great.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Do people ever ask that, I guess there a connection
between two people?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Ask us, yeah, all the time. Now she's just my
best friend.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
We're just friends. And you know if she does my hair,
own cooks for me.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I mean, you know, I doesn't have to have a
sexual element. I'm telling you so.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I think sometimes honestly been serious for a second, which
I really am, I think that people find it's hard
to find friends that click like we have clicked, and
especially at our age and life. And that's why I
feel so grateful. And I think sometimes people look at
that and like, yeah, that's not a real thing.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
So my cousin Donna, and I quote Donna, I hope
you get to hear this, cousin don Donnas, you're not
allowed to accept any more friends. You have enough friends.
No more friends, there's not enough time. I've been on
stage all my life doing hair. I entertained people in
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the salon for forty years. It's just who I am.
So this was just a continuation of who I am.
And I think it's difficult again for people out there
our age to make friends, especially you know, when you
move to a new city, you don't bond like best
friends from college or school or from your workplace. You know,
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it's more difficult.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And when I've talked to my daughter all the time
about this because she just had a baby, and you know,
she says, gosh, what if we ever moved? How While
I make friends when you're young, if you have children
or your namehood, you're out at bars. It's so easy.
The gym, you have things to make friends. But when
you get to be our age, then those things are removed,
(33:09):
right And so I get out, I go to yogurt,
I go to a pilates class, and I work out
at the gym. But you really have to work harder
at making friends. So I'm thanking the Bachelor because we
had so many sweet friends.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And I recommend get stuck in a room for six
weeks with women. You'll find one you'll.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Like someone who will do your hair, and yeah, is
that why you liked me? Kat listen doing my hair? Wait?
Can I just say people have talked online about my hair?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Susan told me to cut it. Susan told me to
go darker, and Susan told me to get it straight.
And so let me say publicly, for the nineteenth time,
thank you Susan.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I was actually going to say, your hair looks so good?
How it is? I should have known it was due
to the advice.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
It's a thing that I have. And I saw her
and she was getting highlights and it wasn't bad at all.
It was pretty. But I just said, you're striking. You
have beautiful cheekbones, great eyes. Her hair should be a
certain length, and you know, I just know a lot
of my clients slash friends now have told me over
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the years they were afraid to sit in my chair
for what I might say.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Can I just say the other night we were at
the iHeart Music Awards, which may I say, was the
most fun. Thank you, iHeart Radio the best. But Susan
is sitting next to me. I'm not sure we're not
going to mention any names, but she's pointing at the
performers going she used to change the haircut? Yeap that color, Susan.
Can we just enjoy this evening? Do you really have
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to critique their hands?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's something you can't help it. I couldn't tell you
what they had on the hair. Oh that shade is
so I could make her.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Look You're never at peace, You're always watching.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
If you ever go to church, and I used to
sit in the back of the church, I mean back
of the pew, and the lady in front of me,
I'm like, did she not have a rear view mirror?
Or she got bed head down to here in the
front sal tee? Stuff like what it's wrong?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Sometimes I tell my girlfriends sometimes will leave the house
and I'll see the back of her head and I'm like,
did you that's none of That's none of my business
what my hair looks like.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
To you, Because I'm one of those girls. I got
you to. Here's the thing. I want people to see
me coming and say, she looks great. I love. I
don't give us what they say. When I'm gone, I'm
past them. It's over.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Unless you're my friends.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
The interaction has happened, right, it's over. Okay, dating, do.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You hear those sounds?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
We're both ready, you're both ready willing this stage. I
know exactly what I need in my life or I
want in my life.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
And it's different than when we were young. When when
I was young, and I got married at twenty and
was married almost forty six years. So when I got
married and I married a great guy, I was very lucky, truly.
But when you're young and getting married, you're looking for
that partner to raise children with, to build a life with,
to work together, you know, financially, buy a first all
(36:18):
those things when you're our age. I can't speak for Susan,
but for me, I'm looking for someone to have fun with,
someone to travel with, someone to laugh a share sunsets with. Yeah,
join me in this last chapter that.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
The moment especial, but somebody that could understand and appreciate
who I am. Okay, but what my big personality and
laugh they had last sense of humor.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
We do not want to be a nurse or a purse.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, you know the nurse part does happen later in
life sometimes might be us. Will you take care of it? Jill, Kathy,
I heard somebody, but I'll visit and cook.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Women.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
She'll support you.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Wait, I'll be therefore a.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Blue when I'm ninety.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Let me tell you when you're laid down the single.
Bye everybody, you look good. I promise you you'll look I'm.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Never sayingle bye. But seriously, we would love to date.
But honestly, in my dms, and there's not been many
for either of us, but in mine it's been. I
had a thirty five year old, a couple of forty
year olds, and they're good looking guys. But I've already rased.
I raised my husband. I'm not going back there.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm not in teaching mode.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It's not in teaching them for any any type of lesson.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Like waiting for thirty. My children are thirty five and
thirty children.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Would absolutely die either of you took those opportunities.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I would never do that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Wait a minute, I'll flirt. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Susan, Yes,
yout you just told me. Age is only a number.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Oh it is? So how already did you back to
sixty seven years?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Know the age was twelve years and you're said ten.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Very good. I'm maybe fourteen if it was really special connection.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
But here's my thing. I want a guy who's retired,
because if you can't do fun things.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Your best friend, you want your buddy buddy.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
You don't want sex.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Off the record, now, chill off the record never has Yes,
I hope it still works.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'm telling I'm being told it's time to wrap upt
sit here and chot for hours with you guys. But
I am so happy for you and it's been I'm serious, like,
I was so excited to do this podcast with y'all
because I'm a fan, and I also I am just
so happy that y'all are having the same experiences and
(38:43):
opportunities that that I've gotten to have having gone on
the Bachelor and everyone check out the podcast Bachelor Happy Hour,
Golden Hour.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Golden Hour click follow, follow us sending your questions.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
We love the questions.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, a question to me to Bachelor Nation dot com
okay slash Goldenour.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Bachelor Nation dot com slash Golden Hour.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And they're starting to come in. They're pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Well, I can't wait to listen to more episodes. Thank
you guys for coming on
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