March 21, 2024 • 57 mins
Whitney Port is back in the O.R.! We get an update on her relationship with her husband and the power of date nights, and Whitney gets real about her relationship with Tik Tok.
Find out Whitney’s honest thoughts on Kristin Cavallari’s new boyfriend, and we get her expert take on the latest fashion trends!
Plus, discover what show could get Whitney to return to reality TV!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yes we are, and we actually have a familiar face
in the o R today. She has scrubbed in before
and she's back for more.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
A rhyme does not even do that intentionally?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Is that a limerick or not technically?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay, but a poem? I don't know. Sicily, you don't
try to say simile. It's not that either.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It was just a poem. It was a rhyme.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, it's a rhyme.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's a lyric will wow.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Anyways, we have had our guest today scrub in before
via zoom three years ago, almost to the day.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I know, and you know what, I our our producer
doing the Lord's work. She reminded me that I tried
to have Whitney Port set up with somebody three years ago,
and I was like, wait, I was dating Robbie three
years ago. But then I remember it was during that.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Right before the getting back together. Yes, right before the
orange dress.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Right before the orange dress. WHOA.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I wonder we should get an update on that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I forget who he was, but I think he was great.
But yeah, we should an update on it for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, but I'm so excited to talk to her.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
She's gonna be in studio with us, so we're gonna
sit down and have a chat all things going on
with her and get a little update on what she's
up to.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yes, Whitney Port is our guest. And before we bring
her in here and have our conversation with Whitney, we
did want to give a warning because we will be
discussing the topic of body image relationship with food, and
so we just wanted to give you that warning now
before we jump in with Whitney and here she comes.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
All right, you guys back in the scrubbing n o R.
We have Whitney for it.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Champagne yours yours bright really yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's what we all do on Monday.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Cheers.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm so happy that you're in this time on Zoom.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Well during it was twenty one, so it's still kind
of pandemic and like, yeah, Covidy and oh but that
was a lot that we chatted about that I want
to revisit because that was literally almost three years to
the day.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh my god, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I don't think we meant to time that out, but
we'll pretend we did. Yeah, yeah, really on it like that.
But one thing that really stood out to me was
that in that episode, Tanya and Robbie, her current fiance,
we're on a break and so she was trying to
get her out of the darkness, like trying to convince
herself that she was ready to date.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And You're like, I have the perfect guy for you. Perfect.
It's like so weird because I can't.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Like me has so many single friends that are still
singer single.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But I'm like, who was the perfect guy for you?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
If if I said.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
He wasn't quite ready for marriage, like this is gonna
this is gonna kill me now I'm going to think of.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It by the end of this episode. But now, but
you don't even need him anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't anybod.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I was wondering where is he now?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Like, where is he?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Where?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Did he have to know?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
I would love to know who he is. I'm going
to think about it.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And then I also feel in that episode, I sent
you nipple covers.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, the the pasty Yes? Did you ever wear them?
I wear them all the time. I wear them all
the time. I need like whenever I travel, I bring
a pair with me. Yes, need them, because like I like,
I like a nipple, but it has to be the right,
(04:03):
it has to be tasteful.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It just depends on what I'm wearing.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
And sometimes I feel like those nipple covers can act
as like little bras too, if you don't want to
wear a broad like at least it's a little bit
of a shape to the booby.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I remember that you sent me those, but now I'm like,
very grateful I could have worn like a.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Nipple theme going on. Yeah I know.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wait, it's like it's like a dumbbell. It's like this
is a gem shirt.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
But I just like, I thought this was cute with this,
so I just went with it.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
You're very cool and trendy always. Basically where we got
to know you from was being on the Hills and
then going to New York to chase your fashion dream.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, and you're still very much in.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
That world, Like every time I see you on Instagram,
I'm like, that outfit is amazing?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
How to put that together?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Do you still feel as ingrained in that world and
passionate about it as you did when we first saw
you on TV, is it's still that much of a passion.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
I It's different now, Like I still I do love, love,
love fashion, And it sounds so like cheesy to be
like fashion is a passion, but like, yes, I definitely
love it, but I don't feel like I'm as like
in it as I was when I was younger, and
now my lifestyle is different, and so I'm more like
(05:30):
just what's comfortable, what's like comfortable and cool and casual,
And it's not so much about like putting together looks
all the time now, And yes, like I love that,
but I'm really trying to more just show like how
we can elevate our style and feel like comfortable and
cool in like whatever, not necessarily always stressing up.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But yeah, I also feel like for a minute that
Instagram and social media was all about being dressed to
the nines and shit like looking for.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The glam and the look.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
And I think, like, yes, there's moments for that, and
that is still a part of my life, but like just.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Not as much anymore.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, we've all moved on.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We've all I mean, like you walk in today, she looks.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
No, I think it's just people have it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I know you have it. You have it, I don't
have it.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I I feel like it's so nice that you say that,
because I feel like I don't like I feel like
it takes me effort, you know, like I had to
plan an extra if I wanted to, like think about
what I was going to wear today, like I need
to pack it into my getting ready time. Usually I
feel like I'm getting ready. My getting ready time is
like thirty minutes. But if I want to put together
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an outfit, I have to add on like a fifteen minutes.
I'm not like a try on in advance and like
style a bunch of looks in advance and then have
them ready to go, which I tell people to do
all the time, like busy people to do. But I
need to, like know, I need to feel like what
mood I'm in, you know, Like I can't plan in advance,
(07:01):
so I need to feel what mood I'm in. And
then I have a rack of stuff that like I
haven't worn, that I'll go to first and choose from there.
But yeah, I try to keep stuff in my closet,
like new stuff, separate a rack and like my separate office,
and then my regular stuff in my closet. It's not
the most it's not the easiest, but yeah, it's like
(07:25):
a way to say organized.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
You have a rack of clothes that is basically like
going shopping, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Yeah, or like stuff that I have bought for myself
or stuff that like the brands have said, Yeah, just
like gifted stuff that I keep separate that I try
to wear to like support the brands.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
And then yeah, wow, yeah, I think you just you
have they she just takes effort to put together an outfit,
but you have then.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
But I feel like is my my mom was an
art teacher and my dad was in the fashion industry,
Like he silk screen and printed T shirts, Like he
had a factory in the valley and like manufactured T
shirts and then like bought licenses like Strawberry Shortcake and
care Bears and then printed them on lounge wear and
(08:19):
sold them to like Hot Topic and mass brands. And
so I feel like growing up with these two kinds
of parents, like it just yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
My creative Yeah, yeah, with your style.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Last time, so last time we were talking, we were saying
Tony was on the break and we were talking about
how that was right before they got back together and
you were saying that you're now husband. Yeah, there was
kind of a moment where y'all were benefits.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, so we had an interesting store because friend of
the benefits.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah you like she said they weren't official.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Yeah, we weren't official, but we were so so long
story short. Timmy was a producer on the show that
I was on when I was filming in New York City.
So but we didn't get together. But it was like
love at first sake cause I was filming this TV
show and the show was all about me, like living
and loving in New York City, and like I couldn't
(09:18):
be with a producer and at that time it wasn't
It was like not a pururaged, not encouraged for producers,
and like that's talent to date as much. I mean
now it's not obviously, but for certain shows it's like
more accepted than others. But so we didn't actually nothing
(09:39):
physical like ever happened. We just established this like amazing
relationship and we were I mean, we definitely crossed the
line emotionally emotionally and we're like texting all the time whatever,
but it got too hard, like we we were like
we can't we shouldn't be together and we should do
our own thing, And so he ended up meeting someone else,
and I met someone else, and I was still filming
(09:59):
the show, and like we had other relationships, and then
the show got canceled and I moved back to LA
and my relationship ended, and I just like I knew
that it was I wanted to be with Timmy, but
I knew that, like I was only maybe twenty five
at the time. I just felt like I wasn't ready
to settle down yet. So we had a couple months
(10:20):
of like fun and back and forth, and I was
having a good time. And then we had this date
where when I was in New York and he like
got a little drunk before and got some liquid courage
and basically was like either we're leaving tonight as boyfriend
and girlfriend or like I just I can't wait anymore.
And I in that moment, like I remember really not
(10:42):
wanting like not being ready, not really wanting to, but
knowing that I couldn't lose him, so I just like
went all in and and like never looked back, like
best decision I ever made, like have no regrets about whatever, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Time I was going to have or fun I was
going to have.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
But yeah, like I understand sometimes, like you were saying
with your partner, he wasn't necessarily ready, but he obviously
like didn't want to lose you.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, it's tough. It's a tough, tough tug and pull
or whatever.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
You feel like he's ready now oh yeah, yeah, well
like we're now we're engaged, so now we're like on
the other side of it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But I'd say for the first year year and a
half of our relationship, I was like, I'm ready for
all the things and he was like I'm not.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah, and sow old was he at that point forty okay, yeah,
forty forty forty one okay, yeah, had two kids, all right,
went through a divorce.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well that's understand.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
We're in two different like like yes, stages. But the
whole thing was the whole time he was like, you're
so amazing and our relationship is amazing that it's it's
bringing me through all of that, you know, So.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like I could see that with you, but not maybe yet.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Right this very moment. Yeah, And I was like, can
we get married yesterday?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Totally?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
My best friend's the same thing. She was like ready
to meet someone forever. And we're thirty nine years old now,
and she finally met someone so like two years ago
and was like immediately ready, but he's divorced, has two kids,
and was like, I want to be with you, but
we have to take things very slowly because this is
(12:21):
like a delicate situation. And she did and she was patient,
and like now they're pregnant and getting married and yeah,
it's just like it's like it doesn't you don't always
have to be on the same timeline. But I do
feel like, if you're meant to be, then you then
you'll be.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I always felt like the Bible they describe describes love
as as love is patient. It's the first word that
it always says. I always thought it was so weird,
Like I'm like, love is a patient, love is romantic.
You want it, you want it? Yea love be patient?
And I like really understand that. Oh wow, I love
is patient totally. Yeah, Yeah, that's really cute. Yeah, really cute,
(13:01):
really romantic. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Timmy learned that too. He is patient. I got to
give an ultimatum because I'm not being patient.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I'm done. You've been open with you have a son. Yes,
he's so tall. He's so tall on Instagram he's.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Like so much.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
He's really tall. He's like up to hear on me
and he's six years old. I know, Wow, he's really big.
Well I'm tall, Timmy's like sort of tall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
So you've been open with your fertility struggles and that journey.
Are there any updates there?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
I mean I actually talk about it on my a
little bit of my podcast this week. But it's been
one of those things where like, and I don't know
if you guys do this too, but I'm not the
type of like quote influencer that's gonna like live share
everything or like every day I'm going through my day
and showing people what I'm up to, and especially when
it comes to something like this, Like right, I did
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share a lot in the moment when I was pregnant.
I had this series call I Love My Baby but
on YouTube, and that was like it was so raw
for me, and while it helped so many people, it
was like it really was difficult for me to be
putting out these raw emotions and then having all this
feedback back at the same time, and it was making
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me confuse and like insecure, and so I decided with
this fertility stuff that like I did want to share it,
and I do want to share it, but it kind
of has to be on my terms, like when I
feel comfortable talking about it. So I've shared it in stages,
like I'm not like live updating.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But basically like what's happening. I'm kind of in like a.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Little bit of a like a two fork situation, Like
I I so badly want a second child for Sunny,
like a sibling for Sonny, you know, And I of
course I want it for myself too, like I want
the opportunity to enjoy in a different way again and
like do it in a different way and knowing what
I know now and being more relaxed about it. But
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it's also been such an exhausting journey that I'm like,
I have to be grateful for what I have, and
I'm like trying to figure out how much more I
want to put into it. We had decided to use
a surrogate after like multiple miscarriages of mine, and the
surrogate had two miscarriages. So now we're like, do I
(15:18):
want to maybe try again? Like do we want to
just like try and have fun you know, or do
we want to do IVF. So we're just kind of
taking it day by day. I had like a doctor's
appointment last week to even see just like what my
insides look like, and so I have a follow up today.
(15:40):
I'm really just trying to be like in the moment
and taking it appointment by appointment, step by step, as
opposed to like future a spiraling, because with this kind
of a thing, you tend to do that and we realize,
I've realized after going through this, like how little control
we actually have, So to try not to future spiral
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and just be in the moment right now and decide
what I want to do based on like how I'm
feeling in this moment. So yeah, I don't know. Like
it's so much money and exhausting to go through the
surrogacy thing. I mean, all of it's so much money
and exhausting, but the surrogacy thing is like it's to
have two fails and to have already invested so much.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I'm like, do I even want to do that again?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Like I'm in a different place now physically mentally than
I was when we were trying a couple of years ago,
So maybe I can handle it, but like I don't
really want to be pregnant, you know, It's like it's
a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, I think it's really when you were saying you
were so raw about sharing I love my baby, But
like that is such a even someone who's not a mom,
I'm like, that is so brave to do because I
feel like the mom shaming no matter what you do,
it comes from every angle and everyone has an opinion
on everything, so.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Even if they don't mean it in like a shameful way,
right away, have you tried this? And it's like even that,
And that's why it's just such a love hate relationship
with social media because on one hand, it's like so
much of my purpose is driven by social media, Like
I'm connecting with people and helping in a real way
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and trying to make people feel less alone by sharing.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
This stuff through social media.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
So it's like I have to use it as a tool,
but at the same time it can be so like
isolating and shameful and judge. So you just have to
for me, like I have to really try to take
the good out of it and not the bad, which
I really do, like I've grown to be able to do.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
But yeah, it's a lot. I just think it's it's
something that you know, I do think I wouldn't say
one hundred percent of women deal with this, but I
think it's the majority of women not deal with this.
And if it's not fertility issues, it's thinking about, you know,
your biological claw. When I'm just getting older, I haven't
found someone, I'm not married yet. Do I freeze my eggs?
(18:06):
Do I not freeze eggs? Do I freeze embryos? Should
I not freeze embryos? You know, I think everybody's kind
of thinking these things, as you know, especially in our thirties,
And I just feel like it does help a lot
of people. And like, I know, I have a friend
who's been trying for five years to have a baby
and try tons of IVF all the things, and it's
like it's just so exhausting. It's mentally, physically, financially so taxing.
(18:30):
And I just think like it leads to a like
just a lot mentally on people. And so I do
think what you're doing by sharing is helping a lot
of people, because I feel like you just feel so
alone when you're in those seasons of life.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, And I think that just you don't even necessarily
need like tips or tricks from people. It's just knowing
that someone else has gone through it or is going
through it makes you feel less like like bad about
yourself or less alone. Because we tend to do that.
We tend to take this thing that we feel like
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we've been biologically like we're supposed to do, and we
put all this pressure on ourselves for how it's supposed
to happen and when it's supposed to happen, and it's
like our responsibility to make it happen, and it can
cloud so much of the rest of our lives, you know,
Like I was on Tuesday, I was having such a
good day and like then I get a call from
the doctor that there's possible this and it's like it
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just it's just a a like it puts a little
bit of a gray filter on your life, and it
can and for me, we've been trying. Sunny's now almost
well he'll be seven, he's six and a half, but
we've been trying for like five years now, and so
that's just like a lot of time for it to
to like put that haze on. But I'm not quite
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you know, we're kind of like suckers for like punishment.
You know, I'm like not, I just I'm not ready
to close the chapter on it yet. Yeah, you know,
like they're still embryos. I still feel young. Like we'll
see what the doctor says. But yeah, I have to
be grateful for my one, you know, like I have
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to turn to.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
All things can exist at the same time. Yeah, that's
the thing too. I think like a lot of the time,
when we're feeling a certain type of way, we do
feel like guilty because you're like, oh, I should be
grateful for the one healthy child that I have. But
it's like you can feel that and also still feel
pain or sadness or whatever else, and they can exist
at the same time. It's true.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Timmy always tries.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
It tells me like two feelings can be there. They're
not mutually exclusive. They can happen at the same time.
So yeah, I try to tell myself that too.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Timmy sounds like a gem.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He's the best.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
He's the best.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Speaking of so the love hate relationship with social media,
there's a lot of focus on your body on Instagram.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, like it was like last year, Yeah, last year,
and there people still will make a little comments ways.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
But yeah, yeah, I remember looking at photos and I
would just like, you know, look at the comments, expecting
it to be like, oh my god, Like I would
be like, I.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Love her, help, but it looks so beautiful, and I'm like,
this is so crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
But then you posted that that Timmy came to you
and said, you know, I'm concerned. You know how that
was such a that quote that I think it was
like they got picked up by press of like what
you posted. But it was so beautiful having the safety
of a partner to come to you and with someone
that you know is coming just from a good place.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, it's from love totally.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I mean that's what I obviously needed, because I felt
like I was like a little bit in denial.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
About what was going on.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I mean, I basically what happened was like I had
posted something and I was telling Timmy like something like, oh,
this is getting so much engagement or some like comment
about how it was performing, and he was like, that's
because everybody's talking about your weight. And because I didn't
look at I didn't read all the comments, and so
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then I started looking and I was like, oh my god, like,
what is even happening here. I didn't even know that
my weight was like a thing, like I haven't hadn't
even really connected to it. And he was like, yeah,
I mean I he was like, I see what you eat,
and I feel like you're healthy, but you have like
you have lost some weight, and I think it's something
(22:34):
that we should like look into. And so that was
the start of me kind of like looking into a
little bit of unhealthy pattern that I was doing, kind
of like this blaming being busy on and not kind
of just thinking about it like I was just it
(22:54):
just wasn't a priority in my life. And food for
me never really has been. It hasn't been something like
like I really eat to live. I don't live to eat,
and so it wasn't I'm not like so excited about food,
and so it wasn't me trying to lose weight or
being like conscious about my body, or it was just
(23:14):
me not putting a priority on it and being like
lazy and so I it took me that introspection and like,
on one hand, I didn't really feel like I wanted
needed to say anything to my followers, like this is
my own thing. But on the other hand, like they
did say something, and there were people that were showing
(23:35):
true care. So I decided to comment on it, and
I wish going looking back on it, that I hadn't
really made a comment about it, because I feel like
when you when you well twofold again, the thing about
being things not being mutually exclusive. I when you make
a comment on things, or when you pay attention to
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something that people are highlighting, I feel like you're putting
your adding more gasoline to the fire, Like you're just
putting people's attention more there than it.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Needs to be.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
But I think it's also like you're in this give
and take relationship with your followers, like I've chosen to
have this job and I've chosen to like build this community,
and it would be like pretty like rude and just
kind of I don't know, just I feel like I'd
be ignoring them to not talk about it, and we're
(24:27):
here to talk about what's really going on, and I
shouldn't be ashamed of it. So I did comment, and
then it took me at the beginning that was really
like the hardest stuff. I feel like I went through
even the mom's stuff, even like oh wow, like yeah,
I felt like the body stuff was because people weren't understanding.
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They thought like that I had just had this eating
disorder and that I like the way I look, and
I'm like trying to put this out there and I'm
leading a bad example, and it just wasn't my story,
just wasn't what was going on. And so that was
what was really really frustrating for me, that like the narrative,
the narrative, the narrative was not my own truth.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And that's what gets really hard.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
But I think that also showing like talking about that
and now, like even yesterday I posted something that people
totally took the wrong way that I was like thinking,
should I clear up? But I posted something about ordering
erewhon as being like it was like part of a
series of stories where I was like postmating Erewon and
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watching How's Wives, and like I said something about being
gluttonous and irresponsible, and I meant that more in a
way of like spending you know, spent postmating and Erawan
smoothie and like diting and irresponsible. Yeah, and like sitting
on the couch and watching How'swives, And people were like
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that's like, so you know, it's leading such a bad
example to your followers like how is getting a healthy
smoothie from Irawan and like lutinous and irresponsible and I'm like,
that's not what I meant, Like I.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Didn't mean you know. So it's those parts.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Gonna be frustrating. But I think for the most part, like.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I do, I feel a responsibility to share, and it's
always hard in the moment, but then when I have
space and perspective from it, it's always like not positive afterwards.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Yeah, it's it's almost like you don't owe anyone anything,
but then you're letting them speculate and talk and then
to ignore it and not address it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Feels like.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Are they going to tell a story that's not true? Yeah,
But then you're like I don't owe them anything.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Right, You're like, I don't want them to think something
that's not true. But then I also don't care about
I shouldn't care about what anybody thinks. It's like they
don't know me, and why am I holding space for
what they care about me? So yeah, it's definitely this
hard push and pull, but I'm like I do I do?
I say those things, and then I'm like I do
care about them though, Like.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Like girls, so I feel like to you, it feels
like these are like this is your sisterhood, you know
what I mean. I get that.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Yeah, these are like my buddies that are that support,
that are there for me. Like when I post these things,
it's so validating for me too, Like it's so therapeutic
and so cathartic. It's like let me it's a release,
Like I put it out there and then I can
almost like kind of forget what it was about, you know,
because I've like put it out there into the world
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to kind of like.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Spread it and then I'm like, Okay, now I'm done
with it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yeah, did you feel like did you do you feel
like if Timmy Hatton said something that there would have
never been a feeling of needing to address.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
It maybe yeah, unless I sort of yeah, I think
that I was like really head down in my own
like operating mind. Yeah. And some friends though, like reached
out to me afterwards once I like said something about it,
and they were like, I was going to talk to
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you about it.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like I was starting to get worried, and it.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Was also on the heels of a lot of fertility
stuff that had caused me to lose a lot of weight.
Like I had gotten really this stomach flu right before
I was about to do an IVF cycle, and I
was like throwing up NonStop and like could have torn
up my esophagus and then couldn't eat it, like, and
I had all this anxiety for the IVF, and so
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it was all this stuff that like led to this moment.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think the thing is like it kind of with infertility.
Fertility body image is also something that I think is
on every woman's mind. Even if you are you know,
so so confident in your body, who you are grateful
for it, it's always something that's kind of if it's
on the front of our minds, it's always in the
back of our minds. And so I do think, like
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I do want to commend you for saying something, because
I think that it is something that every woman thinks
about in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
I wish we didn't so much, but it's like how
we've been trained.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
No, And I think, like I think recently a lot
of people I know a lot of people that are
struggling with ozebic being so prevalent because they're seeing their
friends that were the same size as them shrink to
half the size and they're eating clean and working out
and doing all these things, and like then they feel
frustrated and they you know what I mean, Like it's
like it's this thing like I've been seeing. I've been
feeling it that way too. Like I'm like I feel
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like I, like I was saying to Becca, like I
never have I've never aready had body issues and then recently,
like I'm like, I take such good care of myself
and you would think that it would have an impact
on my body and I'm not seeing it. But it's
like I get I think it's like warped because of
everything that's going on around.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I think it.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Probably is warped. I think that we have I feel
like I don't know. I don't want to like put
a label on anyone or but I feel like living
in LA and in this industry, all of us probably
have a little bit of body dysmorphia just based on
all the people that were coming in contact every day
and everything that we're like witnessing. You know, we it's
like subconscious, we don't even realize what we're what we're
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like witnessing and absorbing.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So I totally get.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
That, but I think that that it's It's so interesting
because there's like two ends of the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
There's like this whole shift and culture where it's.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Like body positivity and models are being represented, you know,
in different ways, and there's like all this representation and
then on the other hand there's like ozembic and this,
you know, it's still it's like where how do we
find the happy medium? And I wonder how kids, Like
I'm you know, I only have a six year old.
I'm like think, I wonder how teenagers and like young
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twenty somethings are dealing with their body and this day
and age, Like are they more comfortable because of the
positivity body positivity messaging or like I wonder what their
brains are feeling right now. It's like a millennial thing.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah, I think it's all ages because I'll be and
another thing, you scroll TikTok, you see people from all
over the world, every age and you're going like, oh
my gosh, she's so young, her skin's so fresh.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, So that's what I'm doing now, is like the
young thing.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Like as I'm approaching forty, it's like not about my
weight because I'm like I'm thin and I don't I
need I need to like put on way, but I
I will look at people and automatically, it's like it
doesn't even it's like subconscious, I'm like her, she looks
so old or she looks so young, Like I'm immediately
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labeling that and I need to stop because it's so
unhealthy and unfair. And I feel like it's then inherently
making me judge myself.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
My mom's in town from Florida right now, and she
was saying something about looking old or feeling old, and
it like, was this perspective shift because I look at
my mom. I could get emotional, but I look at
my mom and I'm like, she's so beautiful and she's
getting older, and I'm like, I appreciate this, the beauty.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And life lived. And I'm like, don't talk about yourself
like that.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Yeah, And then I see how we're talking about ourselves.
We're still so young, I know, and there's so much
more life to live, and it's like, why do we
do this to ourselves.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's so silly, it's so but it's so true. I
think that's that's when I know, because.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's like I like, I'm I'm planning a wedding, and
I keep like in the back of my head, I'm thinking,
like I'm getting older and I want to have a
baby and like and I'm putting so much pressure on that,
and I'm like, oh, like why did I do this
a year ago? Like why don't do it faster? And
it's like we just it's like this constant like spiral.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I think that there's like two things, and this is
just from therapy what.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
She's taught me myself.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
One thing is is like when you start to beat
yourself up about what you could have done, like it's
just a waste of your time and energy because it's
already done. So like why then add on beating yourself
up as like part of the element, you know what
I mean, Like it's already done, Like leave the past
in the past. And then I think also really trying
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to give yourself grace and talking to yourself as like
the little nine year old or eight year old version
of yourself, you know, like talking to yourself like you
would a daughter or a little niece, or just envisioning
yourself like that and being as like gentle and sensitive
and kind to yourself and trying to like help yourself
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get through it in that way. But it's I think
also just knowing that that's completely normal and that every
single person is doing that, no matter what they look
like or how much money they have.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Or whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
You know, everyone's like everyone has, yeah things that we
need to come back to, like what we do have
that we are like so grateful, I know.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Like it's so funny because I think back on like
Tanya in her twenties, I'm like, I don't want to
go back to her, Like I'm so much more confident,
so much more secure, Like I'm so much more the
woman that I'm proud to be today than I was
in my twenties, you know what I mean. It's like, yeah, yeah,
we're always like ahh, you know, like longing for that,
and it's like, no, I'm actually really good where I am.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I know, I know, I think that that we have
to stop going into the past.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I just did fantasize it.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yes, I just did a meditation yesterday that I posted.
I do like a ten minute like Jeff Warren's Daily
Calm every day, and it was all about like respecting
and appreciating the person that you are now and not
romanticizing who you were, and that it's like it was
great that you were once that person, but finding the
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things in you now that you like so much more
than you did then, and how much more meaningful those
things are, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yeah, do you feel so grateful? Like where are your
thoughts on social media? Because when you were on the Hills,
there wasn't Instagram, And yeah, are you grateful that that
didn't exist?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (35:12):
I think that that is what has helped me be
able to have like such a healthy relationship with social media,
and like why I haven't like gone crazy or you
know what I mean, Like I never had to deal
with with those crazy fans or like mean things.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You know.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
We would just the episodes would go out on Tuesday,
and like we wouldn't know what anybody thought, you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Know, like yeah, I wouldn't know what anybody thought.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
We would just get like download numbers, you know. So
so that was amazing. That was I think it was
really refreshing. And I feel so bad for the generation
of people that have to go on there and get
everything like torn apart now. But I think Timmy and
I were just having this discussion about like the whole
Andy Cohen and like all that stuff it's like people
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also know what or people should know at this point
with reality TV, like what they're signing themselves up for.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, I know it's true.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
We just talked to Chelsea from Love is Blind, and
you know, she even said she was like, I know
when I went on the show, I know what I
was signing up for.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But you can never prepare.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
You can't prepare. It's true. You can't prepare because you don't.
You think you know, and you think you'll be able
to handle it, but then when the feelings get real, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Speaking of TikTok, the last time you were on, both
you and Tanya were very I wouldn't say anti.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
TikTok, just like I don't want to just yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
We're still just not I'm still pretty not right.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Do you scroll?
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Like, will you look at the same I just can't, Like,
I don't even really want to scroll be a scroller
on Instagram, honestly.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
See I like that.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I like, I I don't.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
I will do it for a little and then I'll
myself because I don't want to just like endlessly scroll
because I have been finding that I'm I'm I'm leaving
feeling like less than like I should be doing more
and I don't want to. I don't want to feel
that way. Maybe it's the accounts that I'm following and
change up that algorithm. Yeah, maybe I need to change
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exactly a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
But I yeah, I don't want to endlessly scroll.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
And I I don't find like value in that. I
feel like it more stunts my creativity than like gives
me creativity.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah, it does, because everything's an everyone's doing the same
thing because it's like to have engagement, you have to
do a trend.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah I know. Yeah, so you're like just saying the
same thing over and over again.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
I know.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
And it's not it's not my thing. Oh my gosh.
I feel like it's like school to me. Like I'm
like I learned about spraying magnesium on the bottom of
my feet that I love.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
That's what I would like.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Like I like, I like like slime Instagram accounts, you know,
or like I can watch someone make like weird slime,
Like I saw a cool tear slime that look it
was anyways, like something like.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That, or how to make you smell without candle that's sure,
yeah a little yeah, that's great.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Like the things I can add value down and now
I'm trying to like, how can I be an account
that adds that kind of value.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Like I do you are?
Speaker 6 (38:30):
I mean yes, but more I want to be more.
My goal is to do I really just want to
do things my way, and I don't want to succumb
to like trends and whatnot. But I want to add
more value than just like what am I wearing?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Like I have to.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
I have to find the balance of like value and
education and fun with also like the fashion and beauty stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah, I think though you've done a great job even
with your series that you do on YouTube and your podcast, Like.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I I feel like you have a really BEAUTIFU. I
know there's always that feeling of needing to do more.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
But yeah, and I don't want to feel that way,
but yeah, I try to keep everything. I try to
like hit all the buckets, but I have like the
more personal stuff on the podcast. And I think what's
hard is that everyone just wants everything to be in
one place and like easily accessible. You know, it's like
where can I hear this or like update us on this?
And I'm like, well, I talked about it in my
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podcast like a month ago, but I can't, like I
just can't update everything. Yeah, I'm like, like I say,
I'm a geriatric millennial who like didn't grow up with
social media, so I've had to do my own thing
with it.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Speaking of TikTok, do you have any opinions on Kristen Cavalaries.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And her voice? That's so funny because I was like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Sorry, I know so good. Wow, I did not.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
See that because I did see that on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I know nothing about it. I haven't seen his TikTok.
I have seen.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
I've seen two videos and I saw that that they
were the videos of like a couple of guys like
just kind of waking. Okay, I don't even think I
watched it down He's he's like super hot, He's so hot.
But I don't know, like I have no comment.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
It's like I don't know, you know, like in to her,
so you.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Know, like why not what I know?
Speaker 5 (40:49):
I know there's opinions about the age thing. I don't
really how he's how old? How old does she thirty seven?
It's like, well that's whatever you guys. I know, if
it was a thirty seven year old.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Man a day twenty four year old woman's just like
that's like, yeah, every on Friday, no one can say anything. No,
no one, no one can say anything.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
That's a lot of people had opinions, but I was like,
I don't really care about that.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I'm just so fascinated by his TikTok p.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Yeah, like that is a little like what is going
on but maybe you know, you never know, it's like
going on upstairs.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
But attracted. That's what attracted her to him. She thought
he was like she was like because she answered all
these questions on her podcast and she was saying how
she'd seen the like two thousand, she's like the one,
and she referenced like the one being super hot and
then they started like dming and she didn't know who
it was and the Montana boys, like she didn't know
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which one it was, and he said it was him
and she, oh, it's you know, the cute one.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
She I think that she's always like she just she
doesn't care what anybody thinks, which I love about her.
And she just wants to do what like fills her
soul up and have a good time, and I I
like respect that about her, and like I never got
to really film with her because when I went to
New York to film the Cities when she came onto
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the hills.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Oh right, So we never really.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Like cross paths and I always felt like we would
have gotten along. But she seems like a great time.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
She just has that cool girl energy that's like, I'm
gonna do what I want to do. Yeah, like she
knows that people are gonna have opinions that she doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
She really doesn't because she's been dealing with it.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
I feel like her whole existence, like since she was
sixteen years old, and she's always been I mean I
know this because I like rewatched it on our YouTube
series to Me and I rewatched Laguna Beach, and like
she's always been really confident, Like ever since she was
a teenager, she was always confident and that attracted guys.
And I think that that like, yeah, she just she
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gets it.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Are you still close with anyone from the show or
have you kind of has I know everyone's started their lives, yeah,
moved in different paths. But is there anyone that you
were like that you text regularly or hang out or
see You're just.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
Not really like no, I mean when you think about it,
that was for me, like almost twenty years ago filming.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Yeah, and uh when I started was twenty years ago,
and like I was always just in that closet with Lauren.
You know, I wasn't ever really socially good friends with everybody,
with anybody, so I haven't really kept in touch with anybody.
Like Kelly Patrone, you know from the City Days, Well
(43:36):
she was on the Hills too, But yeah, like when
we filmed The Hills New Beginnings, we were all like
seeing each other and a little bit more in touch.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
But yeah, since then, just different vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but it's the same thing about who were you hanging
out with twenty years ago?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I know, right, well just because they revamped the show and.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
They revamped the sho but it gave me so much anxiety,
Like I didn't I just felt like why am I
doing this? Kind of like they wanted they wanted everyone
to like it be a vander Pump Rules vibe where
we were all hanging out and like going out and
best friends, but not everybody was like we kind of had.
Everyone had gone in their own ways and we were
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all just starting to have kids and we weren't going
out to night clubs and so it was just like,
tried something that just didn't work, and the whole filming
of it gaming anxiety.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
Yeah you were like you said yes, but there wasn't
a peace about it.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
No, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Why, why?
Speaker 5 (44:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Who do I hang out with?
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Like I loved like I Jen del Gatto, Frankie's wife,
was like and at the time there was Jason Waller
and Ashley Waller who were super sweet and like Audrina
is always the sweetest. But then uh, yeah, we're like
out at clubs and I'm like, why am I here
by myself?
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Like with me, Like why are we filming with Misha Barton?
Do you remember when they cast her?
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:05):
I forgot she was Yeah, they cast her and it
was like what yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, you know what, we try things, We throw spaghetti to.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
The wall and we just do that phase of my life.
I don't want to do that anymore.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
I was doing that up until the end of twenty
twenty three, and like beginning of twenty twenty four, I
was like, I am not throwing things at the wall
and seeing what sticks anymore. Like I'm simplifying and I'm
doing what makes me happy love and I think that
that like that has been key for me.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, is that what you? I feel like?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I'm very fascinated bout your relationship. I just give a
really good marriage. Do you You probably don't do this,
but do you guys ever have like family meetings or
like like once a week, do you like check in
with each other? Like how does we.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
We not like official, but we'll definitely we we have
moments throughout the day where we'll do like quick download
of what's going on and see like how we can
help each other. And it helps because for us, it
works because we both aren't working nine to five, so
nine to five, so we're able to like be partners
in that way, like who's doing pickup, who has to work?
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So we're always very connected and know what's going on
in each other, live in each other's lives, and I'm
codependent in that way, like I kind of need that.
And we also do like we do these date nights,
which are really therapeutic. We do these episodes on our
podcast every other week. We record like a date night
where we sit down and talk about like what we
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would talk about if we were on a date night,
and it kind of we go through like if there
were any fights or disagreements or things that we wanted
to clear off our like our head. We go through
like some goals for next week and how we can
support each other with them, and then like some fun
things like some pop culture palette cleansers, where we're just
(46:58):
like talk about something fun that each of us are
like that's in the news that we're interested in. It's fun,
and that like that was a work thing that we
thought would be fun that's turned into like an actual
hour of like real connection time for us.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
But I think just like choosing the right partner, it's.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Like key yeah, yeah, and like a partner that really
is down to communicate, like someone that is really not
scared of communicating and like.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Understand willing to understand women.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Yeah yeah, I think that's very important.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
I think a lot of women don't have.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
That true and they're okay with it at the beginning,
or they think that they'll get it later when things
get more serious or whatever. But I think that like
having that someone having like a sharp emotional and IQ
and like wanting to be in tune with you being.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Your best is so important.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
Yeah, I want to talk before we let you go.
I want to talk about some fashion trends and see
your takes on.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
So Morgan Stewart has said that checkered vans.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I know, I saw that our back the new sambas
is what she said.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah, I can't go that far, like I still have.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
I still have a lot of checkered vans and I
won't get rid of them, like I have more of
the lace I kind of like the lace up ones
better than the slip arms.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
But it's not I can't.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
It's like the checker is too busy to like go
with everything. And it's funny because I'm wearing sambas today,
but like Checker Advans wouldn't go with this in the
same way. Maybe she would say it would, but I
I used to love Checker Advans, but like, no, it's not.
It's I wouldn't say a no. I wouldn't say it's
like a no. But they're definitely not. I don't think
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they're the new song So.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Like when when needed, whensed when necessary?
Speaker 5 (49:00):
Yeah, okay, capris or as Tanya called them, pedal pushers.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
I know well, the pedal pushers. So that just shows
you where I'm at. In my fashion.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Ushers, I thought they were I'm down.
Speaker 6 (49:16):
I almost bought a pair of like, well maybe they
were more like Bermuda shorts. But I also controversial, I know,
very controversial, but I think it's like totally dependent on
your like what you're comfortable with and like the shapes
that you're comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
I think that if you're down that, go for it.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
But if it feels a little bit weird for you,
don't like. That's what I always feel about trends. I'm
always like, even if it's on trends, if it feels
weird or uncomfortable for you, don't do it, then that's
not a trend.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
For you know, rather wear a micro short that's like
up my vagina, commuter.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
I know, I know, I get it, So so don't like,
and that's fine.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
There's just some people and I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
I'm like, listen, if you're like I want to be
a part of the trend, and I don't care if
it looks as great on me as it doesn't someone else,
go for it. I know what looks good on my
body and what silhouettes don't look good on my body.
Speaker 6 (50:18):
I think that's important to know, even just for you,
like you, it's just it's just fat getting dressed like
really should be for you, you know, and like, yes,
it's fun to dress for events or for other people
and like partners or whatever. But I think that like
if you're not feeling confident, then it's it's gonna show
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and like then there's no fun in it.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, what's one what's one piece of clothing or like
an item where if they were like this is not
in anymore, You're like, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
This is forever going to be something that I keep.
Speaker 6 (50:51):
I think like for me, it's more of a trend
of like the baggy like middle aged dad look is
like always going to be my vibe. It has been
since I was a little girl, Like I'm always been
a tracksuit like chunky sneaker person, and it's that's comfortable
for me, and I like and I don't I don't care,
(51:14):
like I'll always wait yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
No matter what, no matter.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
This was from Danielle. She wants to know about your skin.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Your Okay, I was going to say both your skin
your skin so so oh my god, I think for me,
so this I feel like the secret for me without
going into like so much skincare prep is like one
(51:42):
exfoliating a couple times a week, Like I'll use an
exfoliator with like a bead in it a couple times
a week. And I derma plane, which is essentially I
go to somewhere like this cheap spot.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I don't want to call it cheap spot.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
But this great spot in Studio City that does like
a derma plane derma plane. And then hydrofacials, which I
think are like they clean you out and they make
your skin so glowy.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
So those I think regularly are important.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
And then also for my base whenever I'm for my makeup,
I mix an oil. I have this like Monica Blunder
beauty oil that I mix with my moisturizer and so
it gives like a little bit of a glow before
I put on my cosmetics. I feel like the oil
is what gives my skin that glow before I put
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on my makeup.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
She's like highlighted in all the right spots. Facials has
been trying to get me to do that, and I
do it.
Speaker 6 (52:41):
Because your skin is gorgeous, and dermaplane would like like
slough off all not that you even need it, but
it just sl no, I'm it would like it does,
and it it makes your makeup go on even if
you wanted to do it like right before you're wedding,
it would be good because it makes your makeup go
(53:02):
on so much smoother.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
I felt like it would make me grow mustache.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
So I mean yes, like you can't.
Speaker 6 (53:09):
I have definitely a little bit of peach buzz that
I have to keep on top of.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
But I just like have.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
I have a little Dermo plane thing that I order
from Amazon. It's easy, Yeah, totally easy.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
You can do.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
It's something you can do all right, all right in
the fix in my fixer uprare.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
So I'll just.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
Shout out to ask cares in the valley. They're good,
like affordable and.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Works.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
We love that.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Last question, would you ever do reality TV? Again?
Speaker 6 (53:38):
I would not do like a docu drama, you know,
like a Housewives or Hills or like where they come
into your home and shoot your family with like no plan,
Like I know that would never do. But would I
be part of like some sort of fun formatted show
or like a judge on something or I don't know,
(53:59):
like fashion competition. I don't even know what there would be,
but yes, like that. I'm not opposed to TV, I
just don't want I wouldn't ever put my relationship or
like my family life.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
But like a game like Traders or something like that.
Speaker 6 (54:13):
Oh my god, I don't know Traders. I know I
know Timmy is like, you should do.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
What was the one he told.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Me I could do an Amazing Race?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
I thought I would totally do.
Speaker 6 (54:27):
I feel like he wanted me to do Survivor maybe,
but I can. I could not, Like, I can't go
that long without he loves Survivor. Wait, big Big Brother
celebrity to.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Do Celebrities They don't. But I really I think Timmy
and I would be good on Amazing Race.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
Seems like you'll communicate well, which I think is a
big thing on Amazing Race.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Okay, so no more he'll reboots Hills?
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Would you docu dramas?
Speaker 6 (55:04):
No more docu dramas and like probably not Dancing with
the Stars or something like that so fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
I could not. I don't think I love to dance,
but like I could not take myself. No, I love
to watch on Traders though you would, Yes, I feel
like look into season three?
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Really?
Speaker 5 (55:22):
Yeah? Yeah, I get your publicist on that because like
I don't even have a publicis don't want to.
Speaker 6 (55:30):
He actually has asked if he should be my fake
publicist before he's like, I could be like taught at
whitneyport dot com and just like like no, not just
to get traders were making funny.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
I'm like, I would be so okay.
Speaker 6 (55:46):
First off, I was a trader, like how could I lie?
And then if I wasn't a trader, I would be
so paranoid.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
I think you'd be good. I think you'd be a
good like a strong, faithful leader. Interesting, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
I think she could be a trader because no one
would suspect her.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
I don't see you as a trader. Is it, like,
do you think it would be like good for me
for my career?
Speaker 2 (56:09):
I cannot.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
We just don't spaghetti to be like as a public
know if it's going to elevate?
Speaker 5 (56:19):
All right, apartment, Thank you so much for coming in
and being in studio and scrumming it and being open
and vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Even though I'm the one that cried the ones.
Speaker 5 (56:34):
I usually the one that it's just you know, like
I never see my parents, so it's fresh just with them.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
This week. I just cry when she cries.
Speaker 6 (56:44):
I know it's like a sister thing. Whenever I see
my sisters crying, it's just.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Like a meeting.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
What you're crying about.
Speaker 6 (56:52):
Like I'm going through something tough and I feel like
I can hold it together. And then I call my
mom and I hear her voice. It's just like a
media Mom.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
But we love you so much.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
This is so fun.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
You're the best.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
Thanks guys,
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yes we are, and we actually have a familiar face
in the o R today. She has scrubbed in before
and she's back for more.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
A rhyme does not even do that intentionally?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Is that a limerick or not technically?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay, but a poem? I don't know. Sicily, you don't
try to say simile. It's not that either.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It was just a poem. It was a rhyme.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, it's a rhyme.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's a lyric will wow.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Anyways, we have had our guest today scrub in before
via zoom three years ago, almost to the day.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I know, and you know what, I our our producer
doing the Lord's work. She reminded me that I tried
to have Whitney Port set up with somebody three years ago,
and I was like, wait, I was dating Robbie three
years ago. But then I remember it was during that.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Right before the getting back together. Yes, right before the
orange dress.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Right before the orange dress. WHOA.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I wonder we should get an update on that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I forget who he was, but I think he was great.
But yeah, we should an update on it for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, but I'm so excited to talk to her.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
She's gonna be in studio with us, so we're gonna
sit down and have a chat all things going on
with her and get a little update on what she's
up to.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yes, Whitney Port is our guest. And before we bring
her in here and have our conversation with Whitney, we
did want to give a warning because we will be
discussing the topic of body image relationship with food, and
so we just wanted to give you that warning now
before we jump in with Whitney and here she comes.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
All right, you guys back in the scrubbing n o R.
We have Whitney for it.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Champagne yours yours bright really yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's what we all do on Monday.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Cheers.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm so happy that you're in this time on Zoom.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Well during it was twenty one, so it's still kind
of pandemic and like, yeah, Covidy and oh but that
was a lot that we chatted about that I want
to revisit because that was literally almost three years to
the day.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh my god, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I don't think we meant to time that out, but
we'll pretend we did. Yeah, yeah, really on it like that.
But one thing that really stood out to me was
that in that episode, Tanya and Robbie, her current fiance,
we're on a break and so she was trying to
get her out of the darkness, like trying to convince
herself that she was ready to date.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And You're like, I have the perfect guy for you. Perfect.
It's like so weird because I can't.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Like me has so many single friends that are still
singer single.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But I'm like, who was the perfect guy for you?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
If if I said.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
He wasn't quite ready for marriage, like this is gonna
this is gonna kill me now I'm going to think of.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It by the end of this episode. But now, but
you don't even need him anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't anybod.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I was wondering where is he now?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Like, where is he?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Where?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Did he have to know?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
I would love to know who he is. I'm going
to think about it.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And then I also feel in that episode, I sent
you nipple covers.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, the the pasty Yes? Did you ever wear them?
I wear them all the time. I wear them all
the time. I need like whenever I travel, I bring
a pair with me. Yes, need them, because like I like,
I like a nipple, but it has to be the right,
(04:03):
it has to be tasteful.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It just depends on what I'm wearing.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
And sometimes I feel like those nipple covers can act
as like little bras too, if you don't want to
wear a broad like at least it's a little bit
of a shape to the booby.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I remember that you sent me those, but now I'm like,
very grateful I could have worn like a.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Nipple theme going on. Yeah I know.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wait, it's like it's like a dumbbell. It's like this
is a gem shirt.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
But I just like, I thought this was cute with this,
so I just went with it.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
You're very cool and trendy always. Basically where we got
to know you from was being on the Hills and
then going to New York to chase your fashion dream.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, and you're still very much in.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
That world, Like every time I see you on Instagram,
I'm like, that outfit is amazing?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
How to put that together?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Do you still feel as ingrained in that world and
passionate about it as you did when we first saw
you on TV, is it's still that much of a passion.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
I It's different now, Like I still I do love, love,
love fashion, And it sounds so like cheesy to be
like fashion is a passion, but like, yes, I definitely
love it, but I don't feel like I'm as like
in it as I was when I was younger, and
now my lifestyle is different, and so I'm more like
(05:30):
just what's comfortable, what's like comfortable and cool and casual,
And it's not so much about like putting together looks
all the time now, And yes, like I love that,
but I'm really trying to more just show like how
we can elevate our style and feel like comfortable and
cool in like whatever, not necessarily always stressing up.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But yeah, I also feel like for a minute that
Instagram and social media was all about being dressed to
the nines and shit like looking for.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The glam and the look.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
And I think, like, yes, there's moments for that, and
that is still a part of my life, but like just.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Not as much anymore.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, we've all moved on.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We've all I mean, like you walk in today, she looks.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
No, I think it's just people have it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I know you have it. You have it, I don't
have it.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I I feel like it's so nice that you say that,
because I feel like I don't like I feel like
it takes me effort, you know, like I had to
plan an extra if I wanted to, like think about
what I was going to wear today, like I need
to pack it into my getting ready time. Usually I
feel like I'm getting ready. My getting ready time is
like thirty minutes. But if I want to put together
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an outfit, I have to add on like a fifteen minutes.
I'm not like a try on in advance and like
style a bunch of looks in advance and then have
them ready to go, which I tell people to do
all the time, like busy people to do. But I
need to, like know, I need to feel like what
mood I'm in, you know, Like I can't plan in advance,
(07:01):
so I need to feel what mood I'm in. And
then I have a rack of stuff that like I
haven't worn, that I'll go to first and choose from there.
But yeah, I try to keep stuff in my closet,
like new stuff, separate a rack and like my separate office,
and then my regular stuff in my closet. It's not
the most it's not the easiest, but yeah, it's like
(07:25):
a way to say organized.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
You have a rack of clothes that is basically like
going shopping, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Yeah, or like stuff that I have bought for myself
or stuff that like the brands have said, Yeah, just
like gifted stuff that I keep separate that I try
to wear to like support the brands.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
And then yeah, wow, yeah, I think you just you
have they she just takes effort to put together an outfit,
but you have then.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
But I feel like is my my mom was an
art teacher and my dad was in the fashion industry,
Like he silk screen and printed T shirts, Like he
had a factory in the valley and like manufactured T
shirts and then like bought licenses like Strawberry Shortcake and
care Bears and then printed them on lounge wear and
(08:19):
sold them to like Hot Topic and mass brands. And
so I feel like growing up with these two kinds
of parents, like it just yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
My creative Yeah, yeah, with your style.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Last time, so last time we were talking, we were saying
Tony was on the break and we were talking about
how that was right before they got back together and
you were saying that you're now husband. Yeah, there was
kind of a moment where y'all were benefits.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, so we had an interesting store because friend of
the benefits.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah you like she said they weren't official.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Yeah, we weren't official, but we were so so long
story short. Timmy was a producer on the show that
I was on when I was filming in New York City.
So but we didn't get together. But it was like
love at first sake cause I was filming this TV
show and the show was all about me, like living
and loving in New York City, and like I couldn't
(09:18):
be with a producer and at that time it wasn't
It was like not a pururaged, not encouraged for producers,
and like that's talent to date as much. I mean
now it's not obviously, but for certain shows it's like
more accepted than others. But so we didn't actually nothing
(09:39):
physical like ever happened. We just established this like amazing
relationship and we were I mean, we definitely crossed the
line emotionally emotionally and we're like texting all the time whatever,
but it got too hard, like we we were like
we can't we shouldn't be together and we should do
our own thing, And so he ended up meeting someone else,
and I met someone else, and I was still filming
(09:59):
the show, and like we had other relationships, and then
the show got canceled and I moved back to LA
and my relationship ended, and I just like I knew
that it was I wanted to be with Timmy, but
I knew that, like I was only maybe twenty five
at the time. I just felt like I wasn't ready
to settle down yet. So we had a couple months
(10:20):
of like fun and back and forth, and I was
having a good time. And then we had this date
where when I was in New York and he like
got a little drunk before and got some liquid courage
and basically was like either we're leaving tonight as boyfriend
and girlfriend or like I just I can't wait anymore.
And I in that moment, like I remember really not
(10:42):
wanting like not being ready, not really wanting to, but
knowing that I couldn't lose him, so I just like
went all in and and like never looked back, like
best decision I ever made, like have no regrets about whatever, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Time I was going to have or fun I was
going to have.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
But yeah, like I understand sometimes, like you were saying
with your partner, he wasn't necessarily ready, but he obviously
like didn't want to lose you.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, it's tough. It's a tough, tough tug and pull
or whatever.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
You feel like he's ready now oh yeah, yeah, well
like we're now we're engaged, so now we're like on
the other side of it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But I'd say for the first year year and a
half of our relationship, I was like, I'm ready for
all the things and he was like I'm not.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah, and sow old was he at that point forty okay, yeah,
forty forty forty one okay, yeah, had two kids, all right,
went through a divorce.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well that's understand.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
We're in two different like like yes, stages. But the
whole thing was the whole time he was like, you're
so amazing and our relationship is amazing that it's it's
bringing me through all of that, you know, So.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like I could see that with you, but not maybe yet.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Right this very moment. Yeah, And I was like, can
we get married yesterday?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Totally?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
My best friend's the same thing. She was like ready
to meet someone forever. And we're thirty nine years old now,
and she finally met someone so like two years ago
and was like immediately ready, but he's divorced, has two kids,
and was like, I want to be with you, but
we have to take things very slowly because this is
(12:21):
like a delicate situation. And she did and she was patient,
and like now they're pregnant and getting married and yeah,
it's just like it's like it doesn't you don't always
have to be on the same timeline. But I do
feel like, if you're meant to be, then you then
you'll be.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I always felt like the Bible they describe describes love
as as love is patient. It's the first word that
it always says. I always thought it was so weird,
Like I'm like, love is a patient, love is romantic.
You want it, you want it? Yea love be patient?
And I like really understand that. Oh wow, I love
is patient totally. Yeah, Yeah, that's really cute. Yeah, really cute,
(13:01):
really romantic. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Timmy learned that too. He is patient. I got to
give an ultimatum because I'm not being patient.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I'm done. You've been open with you have a son. Yes,
he's so tall. He's so tall on Instagram he's.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Like so much.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
He's really tall. He's like up to hear on me
and he's six years old. I know, Wow, he's really big.
Well I'm tall, Timmy's like sort of tall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
So you've been open with your fertility struggles and that journey.
Are there any updates there?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
I mean I actually talk about it on my a
little bit of my podcast this week. But it's been
one of those things where like, and I don't know
if you guys do this too, but I'm not the
type of like quote influencer that's gonna like live share
everything or like every day I'm going through my day
and showing people what I'm up to, and especially when
it comes to something like this, Like right, I did
(13:56):
share a lot in the moment when I was pregnant.
I had this series call I Love My Baby but
on YouTube, and that was like it was so raw
for me, and while it helped so many people, it
was like it really was difficult for me to be
putting out these raw emotions and then having all this
feedback back at the same time, and it was making
(14:16):
me confuse and like insecure, and so I decided with
this fertility stuff that like I did want to share it,
and I do want to share it, but it kind
of has to be on my terms, like when I
feel comfortable talking about it. So I've shared it in stages,
like I'm not like live updating.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But basically like what's happening. I'm kind of in like a.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Little bit of a like a two fork situation, Like
I I so badly want a second child for Sunny,
like a sibling for Sonny, you know, And I of
course I want it for myself too, like I want
the opportunity to enjoy in a different way again and
like do it in a different way and knowing what
I know now and being more relaxed about it. But
(14:56):
it's also been such an exhausting journey that I'm like,
I have to be grateful for what I have, and
I'm like trying to figure out how much more I
want to put into it. We had decided to use
a surrogate after like multiple miscarriages of mine, and the
surrogate had two miscarriages. So now we're like, do I
(15:18):
want to maybe try again? Like do we want to
just like try and have fun you know, or do
we want to do IVF. So we're just kind of
taking it day by day. I had like a doctor's
appointment last week to even see just like what my
insides look like, and so I have a follow up today.
(15:40):
I'm really just trying to be like in the moment
and taking it appointment by appointment, step by step, as
opposed to like future a spiraling, because with this kind
of a thing, you tend to do that and we realize,
I've realized after going through this, like how little control
we actually have, So to try not to future spiral
(16:01):
and just be in the moment right now and decide
what I want to do based on like how I'm
feeling in this moment. So yeah, I don't know. Like
it's so much money and exhausting to go through the
surrogacy thing. I mean, all of it's so much money
and exhausting, but the surrogacy thing is like it's to
have two fails and to have already invested so much.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I'm like, do I even want to do that again?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Like I'm in a different place now physically mentally than
I was when we were trying a couple of years ago,
So maybe I can handle it, but like I don't
really want to be pregnant, you know, It's like it's
a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, I think it's really when you were saying you
were so raw about sharing I love my baby, But
like that is such a even someone who's not a mom,
I'm like, that is so brave to do because I
feel like the mom shaming no matter what you do,
it comes from every angle and everyone has an opinion
on everything, so.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Even if they don't mean it in like a shameful way,
right away, have you tried this? And it's like even that,
And that's why it's just such a love hate relationship
with social media because on one hand, it's like so
much of my purpose is driven by social media, Like
I'm connecting with people and helping in a real way
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and trying to make people feel less alone by sharing.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
This stuff through social media.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
So it's like I have to use it as a tool,
but at the same time it can be so like
isolating and shameful and judge. So you just have to
for me, like I have to really try to take
the good out of it and not the bad, which
I really do, like I've grown to be able to do.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
But yeah, it's a lot. I just think it's it's
something that you know, I do think I wouldn't say
one hundred percent of women deal with this, but I
think it's the majority of women not deal with this.
And if it's not fertility issues, it's thinking about, you know,
your biological claw. When I'm just getting older, I haven't
found someone, I'm not married yet. Do I freeze my eggs?
(18:06):
Do I not freeze eggs? Do I freeze embryos? Should
I not freeze embryos? You know, I think everybody's kind
of thinking these things, as you know, especially in our thirties,
And I just feel like it does help a lot
of people. And like, I know, I have a friend
who's been trying for five years to have a baby
and try tons of IVF all the things, and it's
like it's just so exhausting. It's mentally, physically, financially so taxing.
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And I just think like it leads to a like
just a lot mentally on people. And so I do
think what you're doing by sharing is helping a lot
of people, because I feel like you just feel so
alone when you're in those seasons of life.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, And I think that just you don't even necessarily
need like tips or tricks from people. It's just knowing
that someone else has gone through it or is going
through it makes you feel less like like bad about
yourself or less alone. Because we tend to do that.
We tend to take this thing that we feel like
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we've been biologically like we're supposed to do, and we
put all this pressure on ourselves for how it's supposed
to happen and when it's supposed to happen, and it's
like our responsibility to make it happen, and it can
cloud so much of the rest of our lives, you know,
Like I was on Tuesday, I was having such a
good day and like then I get a call from
the doctor that there's possible this and it's like it
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just it's just a a like it puts a little
bit of a gray filter on your life, and it
can and for me, we've been trying. Sunny's now almost
well he'll be seven, he's six and a half, but
we've been trying for like five years now, and so
that's just like a lot of time for it to
to like put that haze on. But I'm not quite
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you know, we're kind of like suckers for like punishment.
You know, I'm like not, I just I'm not ready
to close the chapter on it yet. Yeah, you know,
like they're still embryos. I still feel young. Like we'll
see what the doctor says. But yeah, I have to
be grateful for my one, you know, like I have
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to turn to.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
All things can exist at the same time. Yeah, that's
the thing too. I think like a lot of the time,
when we're feeling a certain type of way, we do
feel like guilty because you're like, oh, I should be
grateful for the one healthy child that I have. But
it's like you can feel that and also still feel
pain or sadness or whatever else, and they can exist
at the same time. It's true.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Timmy always tries.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
It tells me like two feelings can be there. They're
not mutually exclusive. They can happen at the same time.
So yeah, I try to tell myself that too.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Timmy sounds like a gem.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He's the best.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
He's the best.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Speaking of so the love hate relationship with social media,
there's a lot of focus on your body on Instagram.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, like it was like last year, Yeah, last year,
and there people still will make a little comments ways.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
But yeah, yeah, I remember looking at photos and I
would just like, you know, look at the comments, expecting
it to be like, oh my god, Like I would
be like, I.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Love her, help, but it looks so beautiful, and I'm like,
this is so crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
But then you posted that that Timmy came to you
and said, you know, I'm concerned. You know how that
was such a that quote that I think it was
like they got picked up by press of like what
you posted. But it was so beautiful having the safety
of a partner to come to you and with someone
that you know is coming just from a good place.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, it's from love totally.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I mean that's what I obviously needed, because I felt
like I was like a little bit in denial.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
About what was going on.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I mean, I basically what happened was like I had
posted something and I was telling Timmy like something like, oh,
this is getting so much engagement or some like comment
about how it was performing, and he was like, that's
because everybody's talking about your weight. And because I didn't
look at I didn't read all the comments, and so
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then I started looking and I was like, oh my god, like,
what is even happening here. I didn't even know that
my weight was like a thing, like I haven't hadn't
even really connected to it. And he was like, yeah,
I mean I he was like, I see what you eat,
and I feel like you're healthy, but you have like
you have lost some weight, and I think it's something
(22:34):
that we should like look into. And so that was
the start of me kind of like looking into a
little bit of unhealthy pattern that I was doing, kind
of like this blaming being busy on and not kind
of just thinking about it like I was just it
(22:54):
just wasn't a priority in my life. And food for
me never really has been. It hasn't been something like
like I really eat to live. I don't live to eat,
and so it wasn't I'm not like so excited about food,
and so it wasn't me trying to lose weight or
being like conscious about my body, or it was just
(23:14):
me not putting a priority on it and being like
lazy and so I it took me that introspection and like,
on one hand, I didn't really feel like I wanted
needed to say anything to my followers, like this is
my own thing. But on the other hand, like they
did say something, and there were people that were showing
(23:35):
true care. So I decided to comment on it, and
I wish going looking back on it, that I hadn't
really made a comment about it, because I feel like
when you when you well twofold again, the thing about
being things not being mutually exclusive. I when you make
a comment on things, or when you pay attention to
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something that people are highlighting, I feel like you're putting
your adding more gasoline to the fire, Like you're just
putting people's attention more there than it.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Needs to be.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
But I think it's also like you're in this give
and take relationship with your followers, like I've chosen to
have this job and I've chosen to like build this community,
and it would be like pretty like rude and just
kind of I don't know, just I feel like I'd
be ignoring them to not talk about it, and we're
(24:27):
here to talk about what's really going on, and I
shouldn't be ashamed of it. So I did comment, and
then it took me at the beginning that was really
like the hardest stuff. I feel like I went through
even the mom's stuff, even like oh wow, like yeah,
I felt like the body stuff was because people weren't understanding.
(24:48):
They thought like that I had just had this eating
disorder and that I like the way I look, and
I'm like trying to put this out there and I'm
leading a bad example, and it just wasn't my story,
just wasn't what was going on. And so that was
what was really really frustrating for me, that like the narrative,
the narrative, the narrative was not my own truth.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And that's what gets really hard.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
But I think that also showing like talking about that
and now, like even yesterday I posted something that people
totally took the wrong way that I was like thinking,
should I clear up? But I posted something about ordering
erewhon as being like it was like part of a
series of stories where I was like postmating Erewon and
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watching How's Wives, and like I said something about being
gluttonous and irresponsible, and I meant that more in a
way of like spending you know, spent postmating and Erawan
smoothie and like diting and irresponsible. Yeah, and like sitting
on the couch and watching How'swives, And people were like
(25:52):
that's like, so you know, it's leading such a bad
example to your followers like how is getting a healthy
smoothie from Irawan and like lutinous and irresponsible and I'm like,
that's not what I meant, Like I.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Didn't mean you know. So it's those parts.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Gonna be frustrating. But I think for the most part, like.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I do, I feel a responsibility to share, and it's
always hard in the moment, but then when I have
space and perspective from it, it's always like not positive afterwards.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Yeah, it's it's almost like you don't owe anyone anything,
but then you're letting them speculate and talk and then
to ignore it and not address it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Feels like.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Are they going to tell a story that's not true? Yeah,
But then you're like I don't owe them anything.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Right, You're like, I don't want them to think something
that's not true. But then I also don't care about
I shouldn't care about what anybody thinks. It's like they
don't know me, and why am I holding space for
what they care about me? So yeah, it's definitely this
hard push and pull, but I'm like I do I do?
I say those things, and then I'm like I do
care about them though, Like.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Like girls, so I feel like to you, it feels
like these are like this is your sisterhood, you know
what I mean. I get that.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Yeah, these are like my buddies that are that support,
that are there for me. Like when I post these things,
it's so validating for me too, Like it's so therapeutic
and so cathartic. It's like let me it's a release,
Like I put it out there and then I can
almost like kind of forget what it was about, you know,
because I've like put it out there into the world
(27:31):
to kind of like.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Spread it and then I'm like, Okay, now I'm done
with it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yeah, did you feel like did you do you feel
like if Timmy Hatton said something that there would have
never been a feeling of needing to address.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
It maybe yeah, unless I sort of yeah, I think
that I was like really head down in my own
like operating mind. Yeah. And some friends though, like reached
out to me afterwards once I like said something about it,
and they were like, I was going to talk to
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you about it.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like I was starting to get worried, and it.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Was also on the heels of a lot of fertility
stuff that had caused me to lose a lot of weight.
Like I had gotten really this stomach flu right before
I was about to do an IVF cycle, and I
was like throwing up NonStop and like could have torn
up my esophagus and then couldn't eat it, like, and
I had all this anxiety for the IVF, and so
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it was all this stuff that like led to this moment.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think the thing is like it kind of with infertility.
Fertility body image is also something that I think is
on every woman's mind. Even if you are you know,
so so confident in your body, who you are grateful
for it, it's always something that's kind of if it's
on the front of our minds, it's always in the
back of our minds. And so I do think, like
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I do want to commend you for saying something, because
I think that it is something that every woman thinks
about in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
I wish we didn't so much, but it's like how
we've been trained.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
No, And I think, like I think recently a lot
of people I know a lot of people that are
struggling with ozebic being so prevalent because they're seeing their
friends that were the same size as them shrink to
half the size and they're eating clean and working out
and doing all these things, and like then they feel
frustrated and they you know what I mean, Like it's
like it's this thing like I've been seeing. I've been
feeling it that way too. Like I'm like I feel
(29:32):
like I, like I was saying to Becca, like I
never have I've never aready had body issues and then recently,
like I'm like, I take such good care of myself
and you would think that it would have an impact
on my body and I'm not seeing it. But it's
like I get I think it's like warped because of
everything that's going on around.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I think it.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Probably is warped. I think that we have I feel
like I don't know. I don't want to like put
a label on anyone or but I feel like living
in LA and in this industry, all of us probably
have a little bit of body dysmorphia just based on
all the people that were coming in contact every day
and everything that we're like witnessing. You know, we it's
like subconscious, we don't even realize what we're what we're
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like witnessing and absorbing.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So I totally get.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
That, but I think that that it's It's so interesting
because there's like two ends of the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
There's like this whole shift and culture where it's.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Like body positivity and models are being represented, you know,
in different ways, and there's like all this representation and
then on the other hand there's like ozembic and this,
you know, it's still it's like where how do we
find the happy medium? And I wonder how kids, Like
I'm you know, I only have a six year old.
I'm like think, I wonder how teenagers and like young
(30:48):
twenty somethings are dealing with their body and this day
and age, Like are they more comfortable because of the
positivity body positivity messaging or like I wonder what their
brains are feeling right now. It's like a millennial thing.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah, I think it's all ages because I'll be and
another thing, you scroll TikTok, you see people from all
over the world, every age and you're going like, oh
my gosh, she's so young, her skin's so fresh.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, So that's what I'm doing now, is like the
young thing.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Like as I'm approaching forty, it's like not about my
weight because I'm like I'm thin and I don't I
need I need to like put on way, but I
I will look at people and automatically, it's like it
doesn't even it's like subconscious, I'm like her, she looks
so old or she looks so young, Like I'm immediately
(31:42):
labeling that and I need to stop because it's so
unhealthy and unfair. And I feel like it's then inherently
making me judge myself.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
My mom's in town from Florida right now, and she
was saying something about looking old or feeling old, and
it like, was this perspective shift because I look at
my mom. I could get emotional, but I look at
my mom and I'm like, she's so beautiful and she's
getting older, and I'm like, I appreciate this, the beauty.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And life lived. And I'm like, don't talk about yourself
like that.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Yeah, And then I see how we're talking about ourselves.
We're still so young, I know, and there's so much
more life to live, and it's like, why do we
do this to ourselves.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's so silly, it's so but it's so true. I
think that's that's when I know, because.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's like I like, I'm I'm planning a wedding, and
I keep like in the back of my head, I'm thinking,
like I'm getting older and I want to have a
baby and like and I'm putting so much pressure on that,
and I'm like, oh, like why did I do this
a year ago? Like why don't do it faster? And
it's like we just it's like this constant like spiral.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I think that there's like two things, and this is
just from therapy what.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
She's taught me myself.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
One thing is is like when you start to beat
yourself up about what you could have done, like it's
just a waste of your time and energy because it's
already done. So like why then add on beating yourself
up as like part of the element, you know what
I mean, Like it's already done, Like leave the past
in the past. And then I think also really trying
(33:20):
to give yourself grace and talking to yourself as like
the little nine year old or eight year old version
of yourself, you know, like talking to yourself like you
would a daughter or a little niece, or just envisioning
yourself like that and being as like gentle and sensitive
and kind to yourself and trying to like help yourself
(33:42):
get through it in that way. But it's I think
also just knowing that that's completely normal and that every
single person is doing that, no matter what they look
like or how much money they have.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Or whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
You know, everyone's like everyone has, yeah things that we
need to come back to, like what we do have
that we are like so grateful, I know.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Like it's so funny because I think back on like
Tanya in her twenties, I'm like, I don't want to
go back to her, Like I'm so much more confident,
so much more secure, Like I'm so much more the
woman that I'm proud to be today than I was
in my twenties, you know what I mean. It's like, yeah, yeah,
we're always like ahh, you know, like longing for that,
and it's like, no, I'm actually really good where I am.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I know, I know, I think that that we have
to stop going into the past.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I just did fantasize it.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yes, I just did a meditation yesterday that I posted.
I do like a ten minute like Jeff Warren's Daily
Calm every day, and it was all about like respecting
and appreciating the person that you are now and not
romanticizing who you were, and that it's like it was
great that you were once that person, but finding the
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things in you now that you like so much more
than you did then, and how much more meaningful those
things are, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yeah, do you feel so grateful? Like where are your
thoughts on social media? Because when you were on the Hills,
there wasn't Instagram, And yeah, are you grateful that that
didn't exist?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (35:12):
I think that that is what has helped me be
able to have like such a healthy relationship with social media,
and like why I haven't like gone crazy or you
know what I mean, Like I never had to deal
with with those crazy fans or like mean things.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You know.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
We would just the episodes would go out on Tuesday,
and like we wouldn't know what anybody thought, you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Know, like yeah, I wouldn't know what anybody thought.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
We would just get like download numbers, you know. So
so that was amazing. That was I think it was
really refreshing. And I feel so bad for the generation
of people that have to go on there and get
everything like torn apart now. But I think Timmy and
I were just having this discussion about like the whole
Andy Cohen and like all that stuff it's like people
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also know what or people should know at this point
with reality TV, like what they're signing themselves up for.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, I know it's true.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
We just talked to Chelsea from Love is Blind, and
you know, she even said she was like, I know
when I went on the show, I know what I
was signing up for.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But you can never prepare.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
You can't prepare. It's true. You can't prepare because you don't.
You think you know, and you think you'll be able
to handle it, but then when the feelings get real, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Speaking of TikTok, the last time you were on, both
you and Tanya were very I wouldn't say anti.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
TikTok, just like I don't want to just yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
We're still just not I'm still pretty not right.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Do you scroll?
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Like, will you look at the same I just can't, Like,
I don't even really want to scroll be a scroller
on Instagram, honestly.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
See I like that.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I like, I I don't.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
I will do it for a little and then I'll
myself because I don't want to just like endlessly scroll
because I have been finding that I'm I'm I'm leaving
feeling like less than like I should be doing more
and I don't want to. I don't want to feel
that way. Maybe it's the accounts that I'm following and
change up that algorithm. Yeah, maybe I need to change
(37:19):
exactly a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
But I yeah, I don't want to endlessly scroll.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
And I I don't find like value in that. I
feel like it more stunts my creativity than like gives
me creativity.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah, it does, because everything's an everyone's doing the same
thing because it's like to have engagement, you have to
do a trend.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah I know. Yeah, so you're like just saying the
same thing over and over again.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
I know.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
And it's not it's not my thing. Oh my gosh.
I feel like it's like school to me. Like I'm
like I learned about spraying magnesium on the bottom of
my feet that I love.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
That's what I would like.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Like I like, I like like slime Instagram accounts, you know,
or like I can watch someone make like weird slime,
Like I saw a cool tear slime that look it
was anyways, like something like.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That, or how to make you smell without candle that's sure,
yeah a little yeah, that's great.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Like the things I can add value down and now
I'm trying to like, how can I be an account
that adds that kind of value.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Like I do you are?
Speaker 6 (38:30):
I mean yes, but more I want to be more.
My goal is to do I really just want to
do things my way, and I don't want to succumb
to like trends and whatnot. But I want to add
more value than just like what am I wearing?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Like I have to.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
I have to find the balance of like value and
education and fun with also like the fashion and beauty stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah, I think though you've done a great job even
with your series that you do on YouTube and your podcast, Like.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I I feel like you have a really BEAUTIFU. I
know there's always that feeling of needing to do more.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
But yeah, and I don't want to feel that way,
but yeah, I try to keep everything. I try to
like hit all the buckets, but I have like the
more personal stuff on the podcast. And I think what's
hard is that everyone just wants everything to be in
one place and like easily accessible. You know, it's like
where can I hear this or like update us on this?
And I'm like, well, I talked about it in my
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podcast like a month ago, but I can't, like I
just can't update everything. Yeah, I'm like, like I say,
I'm a geriatric millennial who like didn't grow up with
social media, so I've had to do my own thing
with it.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Speaking of TikTok, do you have any opinions on Kristen Cavalaries.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And her voice? That's so funny because I was like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Sorry, I know so good. Wow, I did not.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
See that because I did see that on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I know nothing about it. I haven't seen his TikTok.
I have seen.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
I've seen two videos and I saw that that they
were the videos of like a couple of guys like
just kind of waking. Okay, I don't even think I
watched it down He's he's like super hot, He's so hot.
But I don't know, like I have no comment.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
It's like I don't know, you know, like in to her,
so you.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Know, like why not what I know?
Speaker 5 (40:49):
I know there's opinions about the age thing. I don't
really how he's how old? How old does she thirty seven?
It's like, well that's whatever you guys. I know, if
it was a thirty seven year old.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Man a day twenty four year old woman's just like
that's like, yeah, every on Friday, no one can say anything. No,
no one, no one can say anything.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
That's a lot of people had opinions, but I was like,
I don't really care about that.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I'm just so fascinated by his TikTok p.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Yeah, like that is a little like what is going
on but maybe you know, you never know, it's like
going on upstairs.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
But attracted. That's what attracted her to him. She thought
he was like she was like because she answered all
these questions on her podcast and she was saying how
she'd seen the like two thousand, she's like the one,
and she referenced like the one being super hot and
then they started like dming and she didn't know who
it was and the Montana boys, like she didn't know
(41:44):
which one it was, and he said it was him
and she, oh, it's you know, the cute one.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
She I think that she's always like she just she
doesn't care what anybody thinks, which I love about her.
And she just wants to do what like fills her
soul up and have a good time, and I I
like respect that about her, and like I never got
to really film with her because when I went to
New York to film the Cities when she came onto
(42:08):
the hills.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Oh right, So we never really.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Like cross paths and I always felt like we would
have gotten along. But she seems like a great time.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
She just has that cool girl energy that's like, I'm
gonna do what I want to do. Yeah, like she
knows that people are gonna have opinions that she doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
She really doesn't because she's been dealing with it.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
I feel like her whole existence, like since she was
sixteen years old, and she's always been I mean I
know this because I like rewatched it on our YouTube
series to Me and I rewatched Laguna Beach, and like
she's always been really confident, Like ever since she was
a teenager, she was always confident and that attracted guys.
And I think that that like, yeah, she just she
(42:50):
gets it.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Are you still close with anyone from the show or
have you kind of has I know everyone's started their lives, yeah,
moved in different paths. But is there anyone that you
were like that you text regularly or hang out or
see You're just.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
Not really like no, I mean when you think about it,
that was for me, like almost twenty years ago filming.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Yeah, and uh when I started was twenty years ago,
and like I was always just in that closet with Lauren.
You know, I wasn't ever really socially good friends with everybody,
with anybody, so I haven't really kept in touch with anybody.
Like Kelly Patrone, you know from the City Days, Well
(43:36):
she was on the Hills too, But yeah, like when
we filmed The Hills New Beginnings, we were all like
seeing each other and a little bit more in touch.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
But yeah, since then, just different vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but it's the same thing about who were you hanging
out with twenty years ago?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I know, right, well just because they revamped the show and.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
They revamped the sho but it gave me so much anxiety,
Like I didn't I just felt like why am I
doing this? Kind of like they wanted they wanted everyone
to like it be a vander Pump Rules vibe where
we were all hanging out and like going out and
best friends, but not everybody was like we kind of had.
Everyone had gone in their own ways and we were
(44:20):
all just starting to have kids and we weren't going
out to night clubs and so it was just like,
tried something that just didn't work, and the whole filming
of it gaming anxiety.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
Yeah you were like you said yes, but there wasn't
a peace about it.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
No, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Why, why?
Speaker 5 (44:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Who do I hang out with?
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Like I loved like I Jen del Gatto, Frankie's wife,
was like and at the time there was Jason Waller
and Ashley Waller who were super sweet and like Audrina
is always the sweetest. But then uh, yeah, we're like
out at clubs and I'm like, why am I here
by myself?
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Like with me, Like why are we filming with Misha Barton?
Do you remember when they cast her?
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:05):
I forgot she was Yeah, they cast her and it
was like what yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, you know what, we try things, We throw spaghetti to.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
The wall and we just do that phase of my life.
I don't want to do that anymore.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
I was doing that up until the end of twenty
twenty three, and like beginning of twenty twenty four, I
was like, I am not throwing things at the wall
and seeing what sticks anymore. Like I'm simplifying and I'm
doing what makes me happy love and I think that
that like that has been key for me.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, is that what you? I feel like?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I'm very fascinated bout your relationship. I just give a
really good marriage. Do you You probably don't do this,
but do you guys ever have like family meetings or
like like once a week, do you like check in
with each other? Like how does we.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
We not like official, but we'll definitely we we have
moments throughout the day where we'll do like quick download
of what's going on and see like how we can
help each other. And it helps because for us, it
works because we both aren't working nine to five, so
nine to five, so we're able to like be partners
in that way, like who's doing pickup, who has to work?
(46:14):
So we're always very connected and know what's going on
in each other, live in each other's lives, and I'm
codependent in that way, like I kind of need that.
And we also do like we do these date nights,
which are really therapeutic. We do these episodes on our
podcast every other week. We record like a date night
where we sit down and talk about like what we
(46:36):
would talk about if we were on a date night,
and it kind of we go through like if there
were any fights or disagreements or things that we wanted
to clear off our like our head. We go through
like some goals for next week and how we can
support each other with them, and then like some fun
things like some pop culture palette cleansers, where we're just
(46:58):
like talk about something fun that each of us are
like that's in the news that we're interested in. It's fun,
and that like that was a work thing that we
thought would be fun that's turned into like an actual
hour of like real connection time for us.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
But I think just like choosing the right partner, it's.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Like key yeah, yeah, and like a partner that really
is down to communicate, like someone that is really not
scared of communicating and like.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Understand willing to understand women.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Yeah yeah, I think that's very important.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
I think a lot of women don't have.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
That true and they're okay with it at the beginning,
or they think that they'll get it later when things
get more serious or whatever. But I think that like
having that someone having like a sharp emotional and IQ
and like wanting to be in tune with you being.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Your best is so important.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
Yeah, I want to talk before we let you go.
I want to talk about some fashion trends and see
your takes on.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
So Morgan Stewart has said that checkered vans.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I know, I saw that our back the new sambas
is what she said.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah, I can't go that far, like I still have.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
I still have a lot of checkered vans and I
won't get rid of them, like I have more of
the lace I kind of like the lace up ones
better than the slip arms.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
But it's not I can't.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
It's like the checker is too busy to like go
with everything. And it's funny because I'm wearing sambas today,
but like Checker Advans wouldn't go with this in the
same way. Maybe she would say it would, but I
I used to love Checker Advans, but like, no, it's not.
It's I wouldn't say a no. I wouldn't say it's
like a no. But they're definitely not. I don't think
(48:55):
they're the new song So.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Like when when needed, whensed when necessary?
Speaker 5 (49:00):
Yeah, okay, capris or as Tanya called them, pedal pushers.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
I know well, the pedal pushers. So that just shows
you where I'm at. In my fashion.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Ushers, I thought they were I'm down.
Speaker 6 (49:16):
I almost bought a pair of like, well maybe they
were more like Bermuda shorts. But I also controversial, I know,
very controversial, but I think it's like totally dependent on
your like what you're comfortable with and like the shapes
that you're comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
I think that if you're down that, go for it.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
But if it feels a little bit weird for you,
don't like. That's what I always feel about trends. I'm
always like, even if it's on trends, if it feels
weird or uncomfortable for you, don't do it, then that's
not a trend.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
For you know, rather wear a micro short that's like
up my vagina, commuter.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
I know, I know, I get it, So so don't like,
and that's fine.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
There's just some people and I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
I'm like, listen, if you're like I want to be
a part of the trend, and I don't care if
it looks as great on me as it doesn't someone else,
go for it. I know what looks good on my
body and what silhouettes don't look good on my body.
Speaker 6 (50:18):
I think that's important to know, even just for you,
like you, it's just it's just fat getting dressed like
really should be for you, you know, and like, yes,
it's fun to dress for events or for other people
and like partners or whatever. But I think that like
if you're not feeling confident, then it's it's gonna show
(50:40):
and like then there's no fun in it.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, what's one what's one piece of clothing or like
an item where if they were like this is not
in anymore, You're like, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
This is forever going to be something that I keep.
Speaker 6 (50:51):
I think like for me, it's more of a trend
of like the baggy like middle aged dad look is
like always going to be my vibe. It has been
since I was a little girl, Like I'm always been
a tracksuit like chunky sneaker person, and it's that's comfortable
for me, and I like and I don't I don't care,
(51:14):
like I'll always wait yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
No matter what, no matter.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
This was from Danielle. She wants to know about your skin.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Your Okay, I was going to say both your skin
your skin so so oh my god, I think for me,
so this I feel like the secret for me without
going into like so much skincare prep is like one
(51:42):
exfoliating a couple times a week, Like I'll use an
exfoliator with like a bead in it a couple times
a week. And I derma plane, which is essentially I
go to somewhere like this cheap spot.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I don't want to call it cheap spot.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
But this great spot in Studio City that does like
a derma plane derma plane. And then hydrofacials, which I
think are like they clean you out and they make
your skin so glowy.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
So those I think regularly are important.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
And then also for my base whenever I'm for my makeup,
I mix an oil. I have this like Monica Blunder
beauty oil that I mix with my moisturizer and so
it gives like a little bit of a glow before
I put on my cosmetics. I feel like the oil
is what gives my skin that glow before I put
(52:33):
on my makeup.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
She's like highlighted in all the right spots. Facials has
been trying to get me to do that, and I
do it.
Speaker 6 (52:41):
Because your skin is gorgeous, and dermaplane would like like
slough off all not that you even need it, but
it just sl no, I'm it would like it does,
and it it makes your makeup go on even if
you wanted to do it like right before you're wedding,
it would be good because it makes your makeup go
(53:02):
on so much smoother.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
I felt like it would make me grow mustache.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
So I mean yes, like you can't.
Speaker 6 (53:09):
I have definitely a little bit of peach buzz that
I have to keep on top of.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
But I just like have.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
I have a little Dermo plane thing that I order
from Amazon. It's easy, Yeah, totally easy.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
You can do.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
It's something you can do all right, all right in
the fix in my fixer uprare.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
So I'll just.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
Shout out to ask cares in the valley. They're good,
like affordable and.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Works.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
We love that.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Last question, would you ever do reality TV? Again?
Speaker 6 (53:38):
I would not do like a docu drama, you know,
like a Housewives or Hills or like where they come
into your home and shoot your family with like no plan,
Like I know that would never do. But would I
be part of like some sort of fun formatted show
or like a judge on something or I don't know,
(53:59):
like fashion competition. I don't even know what there would be,
but yes, like that. I'm not opposed to TV, I
just don't want I wouldn't ever put my relationship or
like my family life.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
But like a game like Traders or something like that.
Speaker 6 (54:13):
Oh my god, I don't know Traders. I know I
know Timmy is like, you should do.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
What was the one he told.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Me I could do an Amazing Race?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
I thought I would totally do.
Speaker 6 (54:27):
I feel like he wanted me to do Survivor maybe,
but I can. I could not, Like, I can't go
that long without he loves Survivor. Wait, big Big Brother
celebrity to.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Do Celebrities They don't. But I really I think Timmy
and I would be good on Amazing Race.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
Seems like you'll communicate well, which I think is a
big thing on Amazing Race.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Okay, so no more he'll reboots Hills?
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Would you docu dramas?
Speaker 6 (55:04):
No more docu dramas and like probably not Dancing with
the Stars or something like that so fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
I could not. I don't think I love to dance,
but like I could not take myself. No, I love
to watch on Traders though you would, Yes, I feel
like look into season three?
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Really?
Speaker 5 (55:22):
Yeah? Yeah, I get your publicist on that because like
I don't even have a publicis don't want to.
Speaker 6 (55:30):
He actually has asked if he should be my fake
publicist before he's like, I could be like taught at
whitneyport dot com and just like like no, not just
to get traders were making funny.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
I'm like, I would be so okay.
Speaker 6 (55:46):
First off, I was a trader, like how could I lie?
And then if I wasn't a trader, I would be
so paranoid.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
I think you'd be good. I think you'd be a
good like a strong, faithful leader. Interesting, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
I think she could be a trader because no one
would suspect her.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
I don't see you as a trader. Is it, like,
do you think it would be like good for me
for my career?
Speaker 2 (56:09):
I cannot.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
We just don't spaghetti to be like as a public
know if it's going to elevate?
Speaker 5 (56:19):
All right, apartment, Thank you so much for coming in
and being in studio and scrumming it and being open
and vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Even though I'm the one that cried the ones.
Speaker 5 (56:34):
I usually the one that it's just you know, like
I never see my parents, so it's fresh just with them.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
This week. I just cry when she cries.
Speaker 6 (56:44):
I know it's like a sister thing. Whenever I see
my sisters crying, it's just.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Like a meeting.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
What you're crying about.
Speaker 6 (56:52):
Like I'm going through something tough and I feel like
I can hold it together. And then I call my
mom and I hear her voice. It's just like a
media Mom.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
But we love you so much.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
This is so fun.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
You're the best.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
Thanks guys,
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