Coi Leray

In this week's episode of the Angie Martinez IRL Podcast, Angie sits down with rapper, singer, and songwriter Coi Leray. Coi Leray opens up about her childhood marked by her parents' separation to her rise as a music sensation. She shares the impact of her parents' separation by shedding light on her father, Benzino, artist and founder of the Source Magazine, and her mother, his teenage love who struggled to raise four kids on her own after the split. At 16, Coi made a bold move, leaving home, quitting school, and taking on a full-time job. This pivotal decision laid the foundation for her incredible work ethic, which has propelled her to success in the music industry. However, after the release and success of her hit song "No More Parties," Coi Leray faced the harsh realities of the world. It was the first time that the typically confident Coi found herself questioning her worth. She grappled with doubts, asking herself if she was truly good enough, if her voice resonated, if her appearance matched societal standards, and well… whether she resembled “a boy.” However, her confidence still rules. Coi is on an ongoing journey to silence the noise and discover genuine joy. With the guidance of a life coach, the support of her amazing friends, and a strong focus on her faith, she's actively learning to filter out negativity and embrace the positive aspects of her life. Coi Leray is not just an artist. She’s a walking brand, and as we dare say… an icon in the making?! Don’t miss this episode!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode end conversation
is powered by I do say Coiler Ray said, I
was a baddie guys, just I want everybody to treat
me as such.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Okay, yes, one time for coilerra Hi Bill, I'm I'm
so happy to be here, Like you don't understand, are
you really? I'm so happy?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Do you like interviews normally or not? Really?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I don't do interviews why because over time it got
it like a little bit weird. I would say, I
don't know. I don't like how like the headlines turn
into like, you know, it's always some headlines, you know.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I olwens feel bad for artists sometimes because it's like
you could be spilling your heart about your most vulnerable thing,
and the way the system is set up, it's like,
what's the headline, What's what's going to get the clicks?
But it's the engagement, and it makes it really hard
for people to connect with a connect or just yeah,
share yourself, share your stories. It's scary. So that's why

(01:05):
I'm always super grateful when people show up and.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Show me and listen. Your show is amazing. You are
an amazing woman. Like as soon as I walked in
and I saw you. I'm so starstruck. Still shut up,
I'm telling you out of here. And just like I
told you before on Instagram and everything, like, she is beautiful,
but listen in person, she did.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Say I was a bad guy. Oh my god, as
are you? By the way, thank you so much, but
I knew that already, especially lately you've been in this
little fashion pocket of yours.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, body, I love the fashion so good though, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, so let's get to your story. So you're a
young girl. Grew up in Jersey, right, mostly Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, I was born in Boston, Roxbury, Massachusetts specific, but yeah,
I was raised Jersey, raising Jersey obviously with my father.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
You know, I'm sure not everybody watching would know the
history of your father or who he is or what
he did.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah shit, I don't even know the history.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Welcome to the club.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, but you know, respectfully, Yeah, my father is Benzino
and just it was at one point as a kid,
I remember what what? How old do you remember? So much?
Probably up to like should I.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Have memories from probably like four or five?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Four or five? Yeah, so same, like four or five,
that's before five I left Boston at that point moved
to Jersey. I guess that's when my dad had the Source.
So my father was always on the road, like he
was a busy, busy man, just like that.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
But you were together in the same house.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, my mom and dad were together. Oh go, My
mom and dad were together for like almost ten years. Wow. Yeah.
Where my dad took my mom and my two brothers
in and then they had me and then Taj and
then they separated at like the age of nine. But
my mom and dad were together. They was like teenagers,
I would say. But yeah, so we just lived in
this big house, well, me and my brothers. My mom

(02:57):
was kind of just enjoying life and joining the money.
She never had to work, and my father was out
his work and doing the music.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
He was doing music. He was owner of the Source, right,
just for people who might not know and doing well right,
like yeah financially, I mean.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
For the most part. Yet like he was he had
the magazine and I was so young, so there's so
much like I don't know, but I do remember, like
a big house.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I remember the big house. I remember the mics.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
There were like awards from the Source, right, I remember,
like he had these. It was a silver one and
a gold one, like I remember the mics. But you know,
me and my father never really had a relationship for
real where he could sit down and kind of just
tell me what was really going on. So I didn't
really know what was going on. But you know, my
mom and dad relationship wasn't the best. There was a

(03:44):
lot of arguing all the time. I never saw my
mother and father like kiss you feel me like ever.
I probably walked in on them like in sex one time,
but like, I've never seen them a much too much.
But like I you know, I never really seen them
have like this.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
They weren't like intimately.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
No, no, maybe over time as I got older, it
just started growing apart. But I do remember it was
just a lot of tension between them. My father was, uh,
it was an angry person. I don't I can understand,
as me being in an industry now why it couldn't
make you angry Back then, growing up, I didn't understand.
I was a little mad and angry, but now I

(04:28):
can understand. But yeah, so you know, they parted ways.
My mom took me my brothers went to Jersey. My
brother was playing basketball, but he wanted to go to
school with black kids, like he told my mom straight like,
you know, we was in the white neighborhood and he
was like, you know, I need to be in the
be around some kids like me like this, ain't he

(04:51):
don't want to be a token. Nah, like we we
an adjusted. He definitely wasn't adjusted because my father, my
brother's from.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
You, moved into a white neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, we moved a upper soud of River. We was
right around the corner from Ja Ru. Yeah. They they
damn near took care of me too, because I was
always at their house. You know. Oh yeah, they did everything.
That's a good family. Oh yeah, great fun family. Brittany
was my best friend, Jeff Jordan. We damned there lived there.
So yeah, so they.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
What was the so when you how old are you
when they separated?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Nine?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Nine? Yeah? So you really never saw.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Now I'm saying that, like I saw like a diamond chained.
I remember my father smelling mad good. I remember my
mother having like three bracelets. One was rose gold, silver
and gold like brangos, but they was diamonds.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I remember a ship like that.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I or my father always like I said, smelling good.
He smelled like Sean John cologne and live Thereen and yeah,
he'll walk by you and you'll get a whiff of that.
And then also to my father was one of those
people like he'll come home and just make you. He
wasn't home all day, but like he'll come home and
be like, you'll clean this fucking house like I don't care,
Like we'll wake you at three a game in.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
A middle of sleep, like get to clean it and
know whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
So it was things that I definitely respect that I
learned from my father and my mom, but I didn't
know the source and just that life. I didn't get
to really experience it. My brothers did, Mani and Kwalme did,
and Rey Ray did monomally in Taj Taj Got Taj
was born when it was gone completely, you know, when
it was gone, my mom separated. She took us to Hackensack.

(06:26):
My dad went to Miami. Yeah, I don't know why
it was like why he chose Miami, I don't know.
It was random, but yeah, we went to Jersey and
started a new life.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
At that point, and you're nine, nine is ten?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, nine ten?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's tough, Yeah, because you're like where's it? Like, you know,
at that age you're trying to figure out like what
a family looks like, what are your parents? You're trying
to just figure out life. Still you're not you might
have been smart, but you're still nine or ten. You're
still kind of like trying to take in the world.
And so then Hackensack was good.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, Hackensack was cool. I mean when we moved, the
like the money just disappeared. You know, my mom ain
never worked a job, so I felt like it was
hard for her to adjust, you know, after her having
that lifestyle for so long.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
How does that affect you when daddy leaves and you're
nine in retrospect, like now as an adult woman.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, I mean, well, as a kid, it was like
me and my father really didn't have that relationship because
he was so busy. So them separating, I feel like
they didn't really affect me really, nah for real, I mean,
of course, because again I never saw them kissing, hugging stuff,
So it's not like and there was nobody ever married

(07:42):
in my family and besides Jah and Ayisha, those are
the only ones that's where you.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Had that was like, because we all have we all
if we don't have it in our house, we try
to see it somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And he that's that's like the proud family, like the
best family ever. Like he loved his wife, the you know,
Grandma's there. Everybody was just so it was just a family.
Everybody ate at the table.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
But when you see that outside doesn't sometimes make you feel.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Like, damn, why I don't have this album? One thousand percent?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I would question, like why are things the way
it is? But because everything like was just moving the
way it was, I guess I just went with the flow.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
And then also too, I was on I was team
Mom all day.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I felt like, you know, whatever my mom felt, you know,
I felt, and that's like a thing, you know, totally.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
In a good way and a bad way. And sometimes
it's not fair. Yeah, sometimes you know what I mean because.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
One thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
But you know, so when we separated, I guess my
mom didn't really she ain't have a lot. She started
working at the bar. That was like her first instinct.
My brother, it was every man's for themselves, that's what
I call it. When they left, it's every man for themselves.
And I got to look after Taj the baby. So
you know, my mom's working at the bar. Shet a
job she started actually started doing bartending, and like she

(09:03):
had her associates degree and stuff, but I don't know,
she never really did nothing with it. But she was
a great bartender, went to bartending school. And yeah, I
was there from like three pm to like one o'clock,
two o'clock in the morning every day at the bar
and then.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
And the kids in the house doing whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Kwame was outside, you know, he ended up he yeah,
he was outside. MANI ended up being outside. I ended
up being outside. It was just you know, you hit
the streets.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
But what's outside, what's going on outside?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like you? Yeah? So so me?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I was.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I had sex at a very young age.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I lost my virginity very young.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
But was it like safe and consensual?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
And yeah, it was very safe, very consensuous, sensual.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I I don't know. I I was, you know, smoking weed,
partying all the time, drinking.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I wouldn't even say looking for love. I just was.
I was always outgoing and like, ah, like I want
to turn up. You know, I got like add since
a kid, Like I felt like like I just want
to move.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
You're trying to grow up fast.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, I was trying to grow up fast. For sure.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
For sure, if I could have moved out, probably by
the age of thirteen, had my own job, and lived
on my own, I probably would have.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
But didn't you do that early too?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Sixteen?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Sixteen is nuts?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah? Sixteen?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
How does that happen? How were you on your own
at sixteen?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
We had to figure it out. I mean, things started
getting worse and worse over time. My father would start
like he would be sending money through Western Union. So
when they separated, right my father went to Miami, my
moor here. We would still go to Miami, me and
taj only to see my dad for like vacations, so
school vacations. So that's why I used to call myself

(10:43):
Handa Montana because it was like the best of both worlds.
So you'll go with my mom, it's like, damn, we
fucking struggling, But you go with my dad. He's still
kind of maintaining a little bit. I remember him getting
into hip hop weekly. And you know, Dave May's my godfather,
him and his partner at the time, I'm they was
just they were they were very like my father was

(11:03):
always a hustler, and that's why I feel like also
I get that hustler mentality from him because he was
always a go getter no matter what. But you know,
I guess some things just don't work out. And also
I realized being in this industry, a lot of stuff
is based off relationships. And looking back at it, you know,
we had this conversation before. I remember talking about it.

(11:25):
He can even admit it. You know, he was angry
at one point. I feel like that burnt a lot
of bridges in his time. And you know what was
he angry about. I can't tell you. I wish he
would tell me, you know, I'm I wish I feel
like now and here's you talking about it now when
you know it's been like two years since we haven't spoke.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
We just spoke after like two years.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, Because like I love my father, but it's a
lot of things I don't agree with. And you know,
at the end of the day, like as a person,
you have to fix things first with yourself before you
try to fix things outside anywhere else. And I'm also
that person. You know, I have to heal first and
get myself together and then I can come and sit

(12:10):
down and be able to be you know, but at
the end of the day, I love them. He's still
my father.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I think, what is the thing that separated you? Like
what was the thing that hurt you or that made you?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Because I didn't have no answers like why, I'm like,
why is all this happening? And I'm like why are
we not? Is anybody saving up for us to go
to college? Like anybody gonna get us a car? Anybody
gonna you know, I guess this is being spoiled. But
I'm just you know, ain't nobody even teaching us? Like
this is like me asking like what's next? No, Like,
are you gonna sit down and tell us what's next?

(12:44):
It don't even have to be financially, just sit down,
Like what what do we do for?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
You want parenting?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I want guidance?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like, but I had to learn on my own, you know,
I how to run the streets and learn on my own.
I learned a lot through my friends. I had a
lot of older friends, so I learned through them and
their experience and their families and their households. But you know,
and I had a lot of resentment because I didn't
understand on how like and my mom played a big
part in it. Too, because I would say she would

(13:12):
be in the middle us being kids, her being a parent.
You know, you be in the middle. Feel me. The
money you gotta go through her. Sometimes you feel me.
The decisions gotta still go through her. She might not
be feeling the right way. I don't know, you know,
you know how they they had their own issues, and
it definitely came on to us because I know my
mother like this is growing up, I hated this. My

(13:33):
mother used to be like, yo, you act like your father,
and my father used to be like, you act just
like your mother, And I feel like they hated each
other so much, so I'm like, yo, why do you
keep comparing me to someone that.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
You like don't.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Like so bad? Like what the hell? And I was
I was so confused, so it made me like say
fuck it, like I'm gonna just do what I want.
What do y'all don't care? You know, all y'all care
is about whatever y'all going through and clearly, but my
mother was my biggest supporter always, like sense of jit,
I could tell her anything, you feel me, whether when

(14:06):
I had sex for the first time, Hell yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Told her everything because she needed to know like that happen.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
How does that go? Do you be like, my got
something to tell you or you just.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Blurt it out, or yeah, I got something to tell you,
Like y'all, I want to talk to me about something,
Like I'm just something on my mind, Like I gotta
say it. I'm so I'm like always been. My family's
so funny. So I'll probably be like, yo, I got
to talk to you, and like I'll be nervous, I'll
start paying and if she sees it, and then she
just be like she always made it a safe place.
She always made it a safe place no matter what

(14:39):
I wanted to talk to her. Yeah, she she made
me feel good about whatever. And then also too, that's
what allowed her to trust me. You know, I was
outside on my own.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
But most kids at thirteen fourteen don't have that. They
like they want to hide, protect, hide anything that they
think might disappoint their parents or not tell them like
what would make you tell your mother that?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I mean? And again, you know, we had a really
good relationship. I felt like because she couldn't give us,
you know, things financially, she was just really to be there,
be there for you as a parent, as a best friend,
you know, as that older sister. For me, I'm the
only girl. I was raised by all these boys, so
our connection was just deep, you know, and still to
this day it is. My mother will go to war

(15:21):
for me, and I'll go to war for her. And
you know, she's not perfect. We're all not perfect. My
father's not perfect, but she is someone who still to
this day, we're locked in. I'll tell her whatever, you.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Tell her everything. That's beautiful to have that.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
You know, we went through really rough times, like we
hit rock bottom to the point where like I remember
coming home from school and it's an eviction notice on
our door.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh, that's the worst.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, it was real bad.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Put the lock on it.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Then the lock wasn't there. It was the notice. You
gotta Yeah, that's scary. Yeah, we didn't have It was
hard to eat. My mom was given picking up nickels
and dimes, and then you know, I would.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
See my father like online.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Or whatever, you know, he was even when the love
and hip hop and all kind of shit was going.
But at the same time, I'm like this, I'm like, yo,
why how you get to live this life? And we
over here struggling, But I'm looking at my mom like
why are you not going to college or something or
trying to you know what I mean, Like I'm just
mad at the world, Like what the hell is going on?
So I'm I have I realized I really had to

(16:26):
separate myself. You know. We done slept in cars, hotel rooms,
one bet one hotel room with all of us in it.
I didnet sold drugs. I didn't work that Dunkin Donuts,
fucking registers A and P supermarket, Palermo's Bakery, and like
I didn't done at all to the point where it's like,
you know, I felt like I wasn't growing in my household.

(16:47):
There was no there was no growth there. You know,
everybody's kind of still figuring it out. You know, it's
every man for himself and with no guidance and with
not having that role model to kind of show you,
like more and how to really live in the world.
World teach you about taxes and credit scores, and you know,
like if I didn't leave, I would have never found out.

(17:08):
Because me, I'm grateful for you know, and I don't
fault my father or my mom. Now as I get older,
I understand, but I don't know. I always wanted more,
Like I just couldn't. I just didn't. There was no
way I could sit in my living room and not
know like what was next. That gave me so much anxiety.
I'm like, y'all, I don't know what I'm gonna do
with the next two years, three years? Where do we

(17:29):
go from here? How do we? Like? What's next?

Speaker 1 (17:32):
When? Did that's the kick in? That that voice?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
After we done got evicted and went through our whole situation,
It's like reality is kicking in, Like maybe it's life
or death, Like what are you gonna do? You're gonna
have to separate from the pack a little bit to
go to survive, Like I don't know. I've always been
like that, And in school I was never into Like
I was very smart, but I did not like school.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
So I asked my mother, like, YO, just signed me out.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I have to work. So I found a job in sales.
It was very good. At one point, I'm like, you know,
what are you selling? Google listings?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Like like when you are searching for a business on
Google and that and that listing comes up with the address, name, hours, operations,
So like we're cold calling business owners like yo, like
do you have do you know your Google listings outdated?
Not not do you have no?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
We know you have one. That's the sale.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know you got one. They want to know how
we know you got with hop online right now and
typing your business. They like, wait, our store doesn't close
at six. I'm like, yeah, so you know seven hundred
dollars seven ninety nine. I'll go ahead and update your
whole Google listing and you get Yahoo thing Chambers of Commerce.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh my god, so good?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
What knocking them dead? And that ship and the fact.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
That you still remember the verb bitch is crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, I'm a beast. I learned so much in sales
like that was like, I'm an open book and I'm
very tech savvy.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I was always smart. Hated school, but I love learning.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
And you're how old when you're selling these Google.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Things seventeen sixteen?

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Oh yeah. They didn't even know who's behind the phone.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I'm like, Hi, I'm quick Colin Tommy might speaking to
John the business owner.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
He's like, who's calling? I'm like, hey, John, are you
the owner of X y Z business? He's like yeah,
I'm like okay, it says that your hours of operations
haven't been updated. Are you do you know your hours
of operations? Do you have any do you know what?

Speaker 3 (19:30):
He's like, Yeah, we're open from twelve to three.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
What do you mean.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I'm like, we'll hop on Google right now.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I'm like ninety percent of the users in the world
are using iPhones and Apple Like they're trying to get
to your business, y'all. I was knocking them crazy. I
was taking at least like at sixteen thirteen hundred every Friday.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. So that's what made me
sign on.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
How they hire you so young?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
It was under the table and it was like this
little office. I don't even think they exist anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
And that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, they believed in me. Shit, I've did my interview
because nice Saddy.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's why. Yeah, that's crazy. I used to do in
the radio the same thing my first job. I'm Radio sixteen,
same as Asy. We have like similar things happening. And
I used to have to call people. It's called like
radio research. And I used to have to call and
be like hi, and I have to like list play
songs for them on the thing, and then everybody would
hang up on you.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
People are nasty.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, when you call it takes all of a person.
Oh my, get somebody to not hang up on you
that you know, I hang up on somebody if I
don't know, you need to in my house. So you
probably had I got him every time, you got him
every time. I wasn't that good.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I got him every time. I probably wouldn't miss it.
But see also too, you can it was a you
had leverage, so you can start.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
You had from one.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Ninety nine, you had ninety nine, one ninety nine to
ninety nine, all the way to you know, nine ninety nine,
eight ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
The most I saw it was eight ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
But if I couldn't get them at seven ninety nine,
I was getting them at one ninety nine. So I
always walked away with something always and yeah savage, Yeah,
I was a savage ima. But the hours were from
nine to five. It was very nine toy five. I
couldn't go to school and do it. But I was
making like so much money at that point, and I
couldn't do those last three hours like I was making

(21:08):
that there was no way. I'm like, y'all, I gotta
go to the full time. So I told my mom,
I'm like, yo, I need you to sign me out
of high school, like please, and she did it with no.
I said, I got to make some money around here, Like,
who's gonna pay the bills? We got eviction? No, it's
his week heart, brothers doing and day in the streets.
It's every man for himself. My brother has two daughters,
my nieces, so you know, he was doing what he
had to do for them. My brother, you know, he

(21:29):
also did some time in jail or whatever. You know,
we was all figuring it out after I'm telling you,
after that it was like what's next? You know, we
really depended on I feel like my father to fill
in that void of just giving us that guidance everybody,
even my my brothers, even though those not his sons,
is just having that person and kind of just teach
you about life before you actually enter it.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
On your home, how's every everybody must be so proud
of you?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Now? Yeah, how does the fa so?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
How is everybody? How is the family shifted? Or how
your relationships change since like fame and you being this entity.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's like, yeah, it's good and bad, you know, more money,
more problems. I feel like, you know, my family's very
proud of me, my brothers, my brother Moni is like
one of my biggest supports. My Grandpa Tito. That's like
my dog, Grandpa Tito. Snopps if you know, you know
Snops that's my guy. And yeah, my cousin Gooney like

(22:30):
and my my mom, my brothers. I got a really
good support system. They just supporting me also too. You know,
I'm not gonna lie. My mom told me the other day.
It kind of made me feel a little weird. She
was like, she's it's like, as I'm getting bigger, she's
trying to adjust and it's giving her a little bit
of PTSD now with my father oh living that lifestyle
or whatever. So now she's just like, you know, she'll

(22:52):
call me and be like, yo, cool. It'll be randomness
how she'd be like, hey, girl, what you're doing. I'll
be like not that. She'ld be like, yeah, cause I
ain't going outside no more. Girl, You're gonna catch me
in the house.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm waking up. I'm getting ready for my chun day church.
These people out here, I don't know what they want.
I'm just like, where is this coming from? But this
is the energy she's getting from the universe. Like she's
out there and now she's feeling. You know, people are
treating her different, People are acting funny towards her, people
are saying certain things, and she notices a lot of
different things. So I'm just like, you know, but you know,

(23:28):
on the bright side, that's why I gotta go hard
and just try to just look at everything in a
positive way. Really just put my foot on these necks
and be the best I could be because I do
have a feeling that's depending on me. I don't want
my mother to have to be out there and have
to deal with anybody.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
You go take care of yeah, like take care of her,
and do you take care of your family?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
One thousand person. Oh yeah, we're about to close out
on the house.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Now, wow, that must feel.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
It feels so good. But I'm not finished yet much. No,
of course it just started.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, wait, did you buy your The house is like
for your family? My mom?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
From my family, my mom.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
So you go shopping to buy a house that has
to feel that has to be it's.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
So much like. So that was like something that I'm
learning and that I was going through. It was such
a headache and you have to, you know, make sure
once you buy a house for all the kids out there,
young adults. When you purchase a home, make sure you
really understand real estate and get you somebody that can
guide you through that.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Luckily, Odam my business manager, he's amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
You. You want to be able to maintain this house
as well. You're not just buying it. It's not just
buying the house, you know, it's about maintaining it. You
know the pipes, you know the lawn, you know, making
sure you know permits. You had a house.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Nah, So that first house you bought, you bought for
your mother. Yeah that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had little apartments and stuff. But no,
I you know, this is it, This is it.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
She must be so proud.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
But it's interesting what you said about it being bringing
up like PTSD, because I always think, like even that
little girl and you who was like wanting for something,
It's probably part of what drives you. It's probably part
of what makes you so ambitious and driven. It's because
you're trying to fill that hole of something maybe that
you didn't have as a kid. But also our parents,

(25:19):
even though we like to put them on a pedestal
and we think they should have had it all figured out,
we realize they're like humans and we're going through trauma
and going through shit also at the same time, and
so she probably was going through some trauma that's coming
up for her now. Well, like you said, that's interesting
to me. Yeah, Like what does she have like fearful
of you?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I feel like she she you know, she's like she
doesn't want this life to I feel like it's fear.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I do feel like she doesn't want this life to
really like.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Consume you or make you angry.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, because she's one of those like one sip, if
it really affects you in a bad way, walk away
from it. And I'm like, there's no way I'm walking
away from it, like ever, it will consume me. I'm like,
it will consume me. I'm just gonna be ah to
like figure it out.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
But she blamed that her relationship not working is like
this life and this business.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I just feel like she's dealt with so much with
my father. She always says she's seeing so much.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
How does your father deal with the success because that's
got to be triggering for him in a lot of ways,
too triggering, or maybe he's just proud or maybe like
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
You know, at first it was rocky because I felt
like he couldn't handle my success. I felt like it
did come from an envious place, which is okay because
he's human and it's fine, but I felt like, you know,
he wants, he still wants, like he's one of those
people that feels like yo, like I still have a

(26:48):
story to tell, you know, I still feel like something
I have to say something like no, he's like I
have to say something like.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
He's one of those people like let me adam the
same way you just said that no matter what happens
in this business, yeah, you're not gonna let it go right,
but you say it is it is.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know, it's crazy because I have a song called
Man's World on my album. It's literally it is about
my father and I actually speak about how you know.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
One of the lyrics is hate to admit it.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm just like you and it's facts, you know, but
I'm able to learn and I'm a better version because
like I said, relationships go a long way, you know,
and being a good person like this is what I
this is how like I want, this is all I want,
Like I want to be the biggest, So.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
What do you want.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I want to be an icon, like how Little Kim's
an icon and how like Alicia Keys is an icon
or Lady Gaga or Madonna and you know, Drake and
jay Z, Beyonce, Rihanna, Like I want to be an
icon like Angie my Tinaz, I want to be an
I want.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
To be a career artist like real, yeah, like I want.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
This is iconic to me, Like I felt like this
is needed to happen because this is iconic, you know,
because of the work that you put in, the knowledge
that you have and just who you are you and
then you never change. You always say you to yourself
like I said, I've watched I've and then also too,
we're both from the East Coast, so like you know,
everybody and I'm not even gonna lie. People in the

(28:25):
industry they there's not one bad.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Thing ever saying. The only thing is like Angie don't.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Play that shit?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Is that what they say?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, Like she just don't play, she just don't take
no shit. But there's never nothing ever, Like you know,
people talk, but that's the only thing. It's like Angie
don't play, like she's one of them. Like you feel me,
don't you don't get on that's funny. It don't funk
with her fat Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, you know what it is. I'm like, that's why
I say we have a lot of stuff in common too,
because I was super driven, like you came from my mom,
single mom saying shit, I have a big family like you.
But same thing. I was so got this opportunity. I
found a career. And it's just like when you're like
what you're talking about, when you have this like vision
for yourself with all the noise and all the distractions

(29:11):
and all the shit that you could Like I said,
it could go either way, same circumstances. Another girl could
lay down and not get up. And you know, it's
like if you find something that's over there and you
got that vision, at all times, it's people trying to
get you off track. And so it's important that you

(29:31):
you stand in firm and who you are, what you want,
what you see. So that's probably why I get that
reputation is because I'm I'm open, but I don't like
but you're not going to distract me from like, hey,
you're not going to distract me, And there's a lot
of distracting in this business. Going on a lot of people,
you know, with a song and a dance and this
and to that, and it's just kind.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Of like, it's so crazy to say distraction because I
tell my team, like in everybody like, the best thing
you can do is limiture distraction. Everything is a distraction
to me. Everything is as you have.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
By the way, you have far more distractions than I
had coming up. I don't even know if I had
social media on my come up at how I would
have done, how I would have weathered those storms, right,
because everything you do is open for discussion and debate
and criticism at every single turn.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
At this point, they run my life. They my mom
and dad. They done raised me, had they done seen
everything like you would have thought freaking go to sleep
with me every day. I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
How do you do that? So how are you managing that?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
You know, I'm twenty six now, Hm. As I get older,
I feel like it's a I'm changing woman, and I'm
just like, I don't have time for your petty little
copy petty yeah, because honestly, you know, it was like
a hate train. What after no more parties during that time,
it was like this big koy hate train and I
feel like also too. That kind of molded me in

(30:56):
shape me now because it's like nothing I could do Talk.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
To me at that moment, though, Two what was happening
and how was it affecting you?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
You know, it was just like nothing I could do
just could be right. But at the same time everything
was right, everything looked so right and was so right.
But no matter what, it just still wasn't enough and
it wasn't right.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Wait, when did this happen? What's after?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
No more parties? Everything?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Why do you think why?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I feel I have no clue I have to have that.
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I've never, like I swear, I don't. I can't even
tell you why if you go online and say, yo,
why did people not like coy or whatever? Even my
double X self freestyle? Like when I did my double
lexelf freestyle, I got shitted on for that and I
was really being me. I didn't think there was nothing.
Still to this day, I didn't think there was nothing
wrong with it. But you know, people felt how they
felt and they like, yo, you're the worst.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
So what does that do to you?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Though I've always been confident like I always been.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
No, let me tell you always when they're like, she's trash,
why is she here? What's happening inside of you?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I always been shooting myself in confidence, but until I
got famous in the internet became that's when I like,
for once questioned who the funk? I wasn't what I
was doing? Like are you really good enough? Do you
really sound good? Are you too skinny?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Like?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Is your teeth too big? You know? When I came
in I and have braces. I had an overbite, then
I got bracest. You know, do you look like a dyke?
Do you like a boy?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I can't say dike.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Sorry, that's why they ran our gay and it's gay price.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
This is literally talking like yeah, but you yeah, but
that's what they tell me. They say, yo, you look
like a study, like a boy. You know, there's just
like whole conspiracy theory on YouTube saying like coy is
a whole man, Like yeah, I'm like, yo, what like
this pussy good you? It's stupid?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, but what's happening inside? Are you folding?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Are you? Like? I went in a dark place when
I was a percent because I was more I don't know,
I was more mad at the fact that like I
had no control of the situation, like I didn't know
what to do. I can't talk, I can't say what
I want. If I get on and say what I wanted,
it's gonna be really bad. And it has made it worse.
When I did speak up and try to speak up
for myself or say how I felt, I don't know.

(33:19):
I just felt like it was like me against the world,
you know, And I was, yeah, it was just me
against the world.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
But you didn't quit.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Never I wanted to, you did I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I was like, Yo, fuck this music thing, Like this
thing doesn't even I'm like, yo, this music industry, they
don't even care about the music niggago.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Let me tell you something, like I put in so
much work into this, like from my coreer, my choreo
to you know, being in the studio twenty four to seven,
being the full creative director behind all my shit sleepless nights,
Like I've accomplished so many things from being I was
favorite female artist two years ago, you know what I mean.

(34:02):
People don't understand my career moves so fast. It's like
they don't even get to appreciate those moments. And I
ask you, I mean listen. Their energy was rubbing off
on me. Nah, I wasn't able to be able to
appreciate it either. I was too busy worried about what
the hell am I doing wrong? And I was doing
everything right. I'm over here getting nominated for Favorite Female.
I was already top forty Billboard when play when no

(34:22):
more parties drop, and then when Dirk hopped on, we
end up on Billboard. It's like, oh, TikTok, TikTok, TikTok.
It was just like, fuck, do you like the song
or not?

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Is it hard? Or what are you feeling the pain
or not?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Like what are you talking about? It just was so confused,
and it made me so angry because I'm like, yo,
I'm putting in work, like you know, this stuff comes
from the heart.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
But I realized it wasn't me, like it was them.
They just ain't get it.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Do you still have some of that going on? Do
you still have to fight some of that?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Nah? I feel like I'm I'm really like my own
competition right now. I feel like I'm in my only
I feel like nobody's fucking would be respectfully and I
I do I feel like I'm so.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
I don't mean, if that's really true and that's your
real inside, that's really admirable because it you know, I'm
a confident person at least because I feel like my
intentions are good, so I believe.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
When I believe in what I'm doing, I'm not trying
to hear nobody.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's the main reason.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
But it don't mean always my skin is thick. Sometimes
it either one comment or the one thing, and it
still could take you down. It could take you down
for half a day or an hour or a week
sometimes depending on where it's coming from or what the
noise is of the time.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
And I always love my body. But it's like after
a while when you hear like skinny skinny, skiny, skinny skinny,
they like, oh, you look like the dead roach fucking
just killed the bog. I'm like, ha ha, like y'all
can't come better than that. Like, but after a while,
I don't know. It was like I again, it's not
about the music, it's not about who I am. You know,

(36:05):
maybe I have to do more things like this, you know,
with people like you iconic so they can actually put
some respect on my kney a little bit. Yeah, because
it's like, you know, it or not or not you know,
or you could feel how you feel because, like I said,
I think I look good. I always thought, where does
that come from?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
How do you have that? There's so many women right
now that are especially this day with Instagram and filters
and all that shit, everybody is wants to be skinnier,
in smaller waists, bigger ass like, everybody is looking at
these images all day, young girls included, and it's really

(36:45):
hard to feel good about. Even when you came in,
I was like, oh, I ate this week and I
felt swollen even you know, we all every most women
that I know at some point have some insecurity about
how they look, their body, whatever. But you don't seem
to have that. My mom, what is that? How do
you have that?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
My mom would be the one to like on them,
Brittany's mama ishing on them, not theyonbiad At. All of
them will go out, they go off, they fly like
he was boots and my mom would still have on
like her Adidas hood.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Jeans And I'm like, yo, why are you not dressing them?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Like you're looking different, like you look like the outcaves,
Like you're not letting me like you don't want to
put no boots on you. We got no leather boots,
don't you You got a hell of leather boots? Why
are you not wearing them? And she, like my mother
would shut me down?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Girl win?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Would I want to wear a girl? Please? I look good?
I'm to think about it. I'll go and take somebody
baby like she would just ship on me and I'll
be like, oh, okay, well period. And if you gonna
wear your Adidas, they surety rock them, dude, whatever you
gotta do. She want a sweatsuit. She never was the
type to do too much. My mom never wore makeup,
she never wore weeds. But she felt fly, She felt

(37:58):
like had confidence of a fucking She was the best.
She was the best. I wanted to tell she was
a baddie. Yeah, so I feel like I got that
from her, for sure.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
And it's never rocked like it's never you don't ever.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I mean, of course I think about, like, damn if
I want my butt to be a little bigger. But
I don't be like y'ah, you know, I think about, oh,
you know, maybe when I get pregnant. You know, I'm
twenty six. When I get older, I gain a little
bit of way I'll be able to, you know, get
a little thicker, probably gain a little way, get a
little meat, hit the gym, shape it up how I want.
That's how I think. But if it don't come, it
don't come. I'm not yeah, you know, I'm any every

(38:34):
girl want a fat butt, like if you don't want
no big moody. I think every girl wants to shake
their eyes and if anything, if anything, if you don't
want a fat butt, you want to like jiggly one
like I think everybody wants to be able to, like
just jiggle their ship a little bit. That's you still
do it. It's big as hell, as fat as fat,

(38:57):
fat as hell. Yeah, that's what I mean by fact,
Like everybody wants a fat but like mine, big as
how I love it.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
A little big movie you and you're fat ass, I
can't take you.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I think we can all take a page from that book.
It's a big feel good in because you you there's
probably girls that didn't feel good about being you know,
smaller frame that now can talk that ship and feel fly,
and some girls who are thicker would die to be small.
It's just that the Internet just gives everybody an opinion
and that everybody a chance to say the most negative,

(39:36):
horrible things.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I don't know what it is, I really don't. I
don't know why bodies are just like a thing. It's
like I don't know if you notice, like we go
through these little phases, just like the last two years
it's about bodies. The next two years is going to
be abrote to something else. It's like, I don't know,
or has it always been a thing?

Speaker 1 (39:52):
No, it's always been the bodies has always been a thing,
especially women's bodies.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
They object so much like this.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yes, oh w what do you mean from women to women? Yeah,
of course even before we were this is an ongoing thing.
Uh whatever, you know back in the day, probably like
Marilyn Monroe was like her shape was she was too
shapely at the time, and then she came and broke that.
Then everybody wanted to look like her and have that
little hour. I think, yes, just different versions at different times.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
So but yes, I feel like it's just because like
do you think, I don't know, do you feel like
people where do you think it comes from?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I think people would like to objectify women and it'd
be like you're this sexual thing walking around and so
they can. They should be able to look at your body,
talk about your body, review your body, which we don't
do that to men, right, right? Do you do that
to other women or no.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I mean we might talk a little key key in
the car with my friends. I even gonna lie, we
might talk a little shit in a car.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
But like, honestly, I've been going to church and I'm
very into with God. And one thing my pastor did
say was like, you know, she was like, you know,
you need to She was like, you need to get
rid of them friends, and that's gossiping. Stop gossiping. Like

(41:14):
she's on the a preaching and I'm like, oh you
took that. I looked at my I'm like, we need
to stop gossiping. I'm like, now we need to stop it.
We need to not talk about nobody now from now one,
we everything that come out of our mouth is positive.
If you want to say something bad about her, say
something good about her, and now like and that's real shit,
you know.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
No, it's a real thing, real thing. So why because
sometimes I check myself because I'm a little smart ass,
like like you too, sometimes I be I may want
to make it and I'll and I literally write something.
I think today it happened. I was writing something and
I just deleted it. It's like I don't want to
put that energy, like it's just because its energy. Yeah,
you get that energy. That energy at some point in
some way is going to come back to you.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
It comes back. It sure does.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
And so your past is probably right you need to
stop gossiping.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah I do.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
But honestly, it's something that you know habits. It's it's
a good habit.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And I feel like self awareness is key for sure.
So yes, you know, I'm aware of it, and I'm
down and I'm shout out past the G by the way,
like I'm grateful to have her. She's amazing. She's there
every Sunday typing past the g. She's actually pretty V's mom.
You know Pretty V.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah. V is very heavy in her spirituality.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
She's someone who's also a big part of my career.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
You won't even know. I had no idea of those
people that will text me.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
She checks on my mental health all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
How so what is Bible scripture?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
She shouldn't bioscriptures. She'll call me, She's like, yo, I'm
just checking on you. How you feeling today, how you
you know, hate to see She's like, I'm just sending
you a message and you love, make sure you feel good.
She's like, you know what's going on? You feel me?
Make sure that you you know if we're in the area,
make sure you try to come see me if you
on this side, Like she's always no matter what, if
something she sees some she's hitting me up right away, like, y'all,
I'm here for you. She's really a great person.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Wow, I've only known her. We've dm'd each other a
few times. We're talking about having her come up here.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
She's amazing.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, she's amazing. So we need those people. You need
people in your corner that show up for you in
that way. That's so. I didn't even know that about her.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Did you know that? No? Who know?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Who would know? I don't know much about her except
that she's funny. Yeah, she's twenty. If you're friends with her,
you probably get jokes on the load too.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, she'd be jokes. She's really funny. She's really so funny.
That's her personality. But nah, she's big in tune with God.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
So are you not sensitive about it though when people
do talk. Just to go back one last thing about that,
are you not sensitive? Because I felt like maybe you
get sensitive when people talk about you in your body
because I saw you say something like why are you talking?
Why does people my body shouldn't come out? And nobody's
not front I know that whole thing happened, but yeah,
like nobody should be mentioned in my you know, but
is it because sensitive about it or just because.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
It's like don't it's like, as okay, so just how
look at it? Not the I'm like, as as black
women in the industry, the only way that the world
is going to go around in our world, the way
we wanted to is if we come together dead ass,

(44:16):
and if you're going to be that person to speak
about a body when we trying to stop you know
what I'm saying and trying to just you know, spread
body positivity. And you see what me Lizzle goes through,
you see what I go through. Like yo, Like we're
real people and we're trying to change that. So I
don't make it right for you to keep you know,

(44:38):
making it a thing. That's how I feel about it.
You could talk about my body, but it's like when
it's coming from someone that nigga, A lot of little
girls look up to, and you feel me, a lot
of people highly respect someone that's like nigga, No, you
have to make better decisions on how you want to
handle your career. That's how I feel about it. Yeah,

(45:00):
but no, I feel like, you know, like I said,
I was like, yeah, I'm sexy.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
It's funny, but it's an opportunity for you to say
those things to Like, I don't know, isn't there opportunity
in the discussions about it to try to change that.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
One thousand percent? I was just talking about this. I
feel like I am. I want the all the young
women and women in general to look up to me
and be able to, you know, learn through me and
my experience. I feel like they don't have to go
through it. I'll go through it for them. That's another
reason why I could. I couldn't get through it because
it's like, I'll go through it for y'all, so y'all

(45:38):
don't have to go through it. So for example, these
it's girls that's like, they keep talking shit about Core,
they calling her skinny, damn, they putting her down, damn.
They just do the third But she don't care, so shit,
I'm about to go out and put my little booty
shorts on too. What's up?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
And by the way, she looks amazing. Yeah, I mean,
I you look good too. I wish I wish my waist.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Was the same sun please please, But yeah, no, I
feel like they Yeah, I'm paving that way. Like I
feel like the girls can they don't have to go
through what I'm going through. They can just live through
the positive side on it.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
And also, I think I heard you say this too
about fashion and about I mean, when I saw you
at Paris Fashion Week, you're wearing the fuck out of
those clothes.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, I'm a fashion.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
You can't do that unless you're confident and you feel
good about you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And unless you're a sample suck. Yeah, the runway is
like I wear stuff right up the runway and it's
like super small because it's samples, and you're like whoa.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
I'm like, yeah, I'm like you're free.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
You're over here like you're a buck. I'm over here
with Saint Laurent like squirming. I don't care, like I
love it.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, good for you, as you should. Okay, I have
real life questions for you. Well, well, first of all,
let's let's go back to where you are now. So
I think I read or saw that you did a
life coach. Did you work at a life coach?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I did that help you? Well, Miss Sherry?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Was that recent?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah? That was No, that was within my career. Yeah.
She came in and yo, So I was like in
a dark place because this.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Early career when it's like not going your way and
all that.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Or this was like last year. Oh this is recent, Yeah,
because I ain't know what I'm I don't know. It
was again it was like the hate training and I
was just like confused on why, why, why? What the hell?
And it was distracting me from just being great and
being creative as well. But so miss Sherry. So I

(47:49):
ended up like taking a little for h I drove
up to Lake Arrowhead, it's like an hour and thirty
minutes from my house. It's in LA and I stayed
there with my two dogs by myself. I haven't been
alone and mad long at this time. Like it's the
best thing you could do. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
She came.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
She flew from Atlanta, came to LA to come see me,
and didn't even know I was up there. She ended
up driving an hour thirty minutes away, and she came
and sat down. She said, look, I ain't about to
change you around, child. Excuse me, but she said, but
I'm only going to stay for an hour. I'm gonna
let you know something because this is your time and
I like that you're here alone, so I'm just gonna

(48:29):
I want to give that to you. But I want
to let you know like you need to grow up.
And I'm like, excuse me, you just flew, you flew
across the planet like just to come tell me to
grow up. But it was the best advice I could

(48:49):
ever got because she was right, like, grow up, you
feel me, And to me, it was like you're a
big girl. Now. Try to figure out how to stop
complaining all the time and start actually solving the problems
on your own. You know, for example, if you feel
like you're not happy, figure out on how you're gonna

(49:11):
be happy. If you have kids one day and you're
not happy, you're gonna have to get it together for them.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
You got a family to feed, you got a.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Big career here. Get yourself together. Nobody's in charge of
your happiness. You got to grow up. That's what I'm
telling myself. So I you know, it's exactly what I did.
How I am, I said, like, you know what I'm
about to, like give me all the things I gotta
do to do like I want to know all the
right things, like for example, you know, of course, starting

(49:40):
to go into church, being very in tune with God,
making sure I pray every day, like learning that you
can't just pray when you want something, but praying when
at every single time, and really get into my spirituality,
realizing like separating myself from people that I don't feel
like is helping me grow. And then I'm I'm like, okay,

(50:01):
I noticed, okay, I would wake up and I'm like
hopping on social media right away. So instead of hopping
on social media right away, I'm changing my routine up.
I'm like, all right, pray first, open a book, read
some positive you feel me, call your loved ones before
you hop on social media, like do things like that.
So and then you know, I got time. When I
got time in the day to think, I want to

(50:22):
keep myself busy, so like go through the house, find
a room that you might want to just empty, you know,
go through the clothes that you might want to get
rid of, you know, write, get a journal. I'm like
writing shit down. I'm like, start a business. Gets you
know what I'm saying, like keep yourself, yeah, positive stuff,
and then go into the gym. That's like I'm telling

(50:42):
you the gym. Don't look at the gym like losing weight.
I wish a lot of people start to stop start
marketing the gym on a mental health level, because it's
probably one of the best things for you. Really, nah,
for real. When I went to the gym because I'm
you know, I'm very thin, skinny whatever they called me,
I wasn't going to try to shape up. I went

(51:04):
to distract me. And then I wanted to stop smoking
in the morning time. I smoked weed all day, so
I'm like, all right, I can't smoke before the gym,
so let me get up and go to the gym
first so I don't have to smoke weed. And when
I went to the gym, I didn't smoke weed three
more hours after that because my adriddline is still there.
I'm hungry, my appetite is amazing. I'm like on a

(51:27):
call like yo.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
So hey guys, I'm like, hey, team.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
It's just, you know, energy, It's like you let all
that anger out in them weights. You know, I'm heavy
lifting and you know, talking shit to my trainer. So
I do advice to get a trainer, though it's hard
to do it alone. I can't see myself doing it whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
I wish I could. I've tried to do the gym thing.
I don't have that, but I think it is. I
think what you're saying is too. It's like you got
to find something. You gotta find something that gets your
energy off, that lets you lock into you. I just
it's gonna sound crazy, but I started golfing like a
year and a half ago. No, it's fucking fire. When

(52:05):
I tell you I could talk, Brittany's like, oh god,
she's about to talk about golf for thirty minutes. But
I will tell you it is the only thing I
do that I'm not multitasking. It's probably what you feel
at the gym, right. So I'm there, I'm working, and
then it's mental too, So I'm trying to figure out
the little things and then you click one and you're like,
oh shit, I bodied that, yeah, And so it's constantly

(52:27):
and then you're whack for so long. So you have
to calm. You have to calm yourself from the ups
and the downs. Like you can't be golf and hit
a bad swing and get mad, because then your next
wing is going to be trash. So you have to
learn how to hit the bad swing and keep yourself
even patient so that you can hit the next one.
So for me, it slows my up and downs down

(52:47):
it and like I said, I'm not multitasking and it
gives me something. Well, it's not work, and I'm outside
in the grad meditation walk.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
That's what I always say.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
I always say it's meditation. And I realized that might
not be everybody's thing. But I realized, fuck, I didn't
have a thing. So I once you find the thing,
you're like, oh I need this thing. It's probably the
same thing for you with the gym. It's a thing
that everybody should look for. Like it might not be
the gym, might not be golf, it might not be whatever, meditation, yoga,

(53:20):
whatever your thing is. Some people just like maybe a book,
like you said, like to read in the morning. I
don't know. I'm sure there's a whole list of slew
of things.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
We got to start normalizing normal life that too, That's
what like people don't people forget that, Like to go.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
For a walk, Yeah, like outside and outside, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
You know, read a book, you know, cook a meal.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Nobody cooks anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Door dash all day or Uber eats all day. It's terrible.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
I'm not even gonna lie. I kind of stopped cooking
for I started working so much, and even I was
a point where I cooked and worked, but work could
really consume you, like it's man, listen, you gotta take
care of yourself. And as recently as in the past
two weeks, I'm I'm at the phase where now I'm
understanding and trying to have more fun in realizing, like

(54:09):
not everything got to be work work, work, work, work, work, work,
work work.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
In real life. What do you want to do before
it's all over?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
What I want to do before it's all over is
have my own like foundation of course. And also do
I want to be in a billionaire Rihanna is the
only I feel like black female artists on Forbes with billions.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
And I'm trying to get up there. You want to
be there too, Yeah, I want to be there too.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
That'd be a nice place.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Right next there?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Do you have plans on how you're gonna get there.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, I have so many plans. I actually invented a
baby hair brush, so I'm working on my oh, my
hair products.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
My hairline is apposed to be crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
My Coiler Ray braids. I got my own braid in hair.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
You know my business.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, I'm really Coy is a whole. Coiler Ray is
a brand. Like I'm not just an artist. I'm like,
I'm a walking brand. I'm like chit Chi and my mind.
I'm telling you, if I test my IQ, I might
just be borderline genius.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Yeah, that's how I feel.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Your confidence level, though, is so good, and I'm trying
to figure out this about you. Is if if this
is like a self taught thing or if it's just like, no.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I'm dead ass though, Like I feel like I'm really
a genius. Like I feel like if they take IQ,
I'm really gonna have high score numbers. I swear to God.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
But don't you think it's that's the thing that's got
you here?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Is that belief in yourself because at any point somebody
could have said, now you can't consist. Now you can't
because of that, Like, at any point and you swat
all that away, and it's really that that thing, that whatever, that.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Thing that it's an identity.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Like I know my identity.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I know myself. A lot of these these girls these
days don't really have an identity, you know. And that's
where I feel like, that's what makes me different, because
I have an identity. You know exactly who I am.
You might not like it, but you know exactly who
I am.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
You're gonna take this coiler.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
You're gonna take this coiler, right, I'm not the difficult.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
What are you most in real life? What are you
most proud of about about yourself?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I'm I'm proud of my growth and who I am today,
you know, versus who I was when I first walked
in the industry. The way I handle my situations differently,
how I handle my conversations differently, how I carry myself.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
What's the biggest difference.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
My reactions now? I'm just like you know, being very
aware of the wrongs and doing what I need to do.
Like I'm I'm big on I feel like there's times
in my career and my life is self awareness time.
This is the time where, like I'm twenty six, I
really just get in tune with myself, you know, and

(56:48):
I feel that and there's nobody that.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Can take me out my my shit.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Like I remember, before a couple of years ago, you
might be able to get me out my but now
I'm like, I know exactly how to handle the situation
instead of me. You know, when I get my glam,
I need an empty room. Before it was a party
and I love that, but I realized, not everybody's a party.
You're working, feel me, set up a movie, open a book,

(57:14):
Let me go do your glam. Let you get your
here done, figure out what you need to do, and
use that time to you know, think, you know, get
off Instagram, don't sit there on your phone on glammy.
That I realize, I'm like, I'm spend too much social
So while I'm in glam, I'm like trying my best
to just do something different.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
And that's what I love about myself more.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I'm very self aware and that's like the biggest thing
you can't buy that A lot of people don't know
that they are like a bad person.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I feel like you were a bad person at well.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
No, I don't think I was a bad person, but
you know, I think I made you know, bad decisions,
you know, and it's human, but a lot of people
don't be aware. It's okay to make mistakes. If you
make mistakes, it's fine. But like if as long as
you're aware of it, I swear you'll be able to
like get get through it.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yeah, for sure. What do you pray for? Last question?
What do you pray for? In real life?

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I pray for peace, love and happiness, and I pay
pray for patience. And I always say, God, just cover
my mind, Like, just cover my mind, feel me, do
me a favor, and cover my mind before I walk
into interview, before I do a show, because I'm always
thinking in.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Real life, when are you your happiest.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
I'm my happiest when I'm not working.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Your whole team just fainted me.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
I am not happiest when I'm not working because it's
worried free. Like if I'm going out and I'm just
living my life and again work is done, that's my
happiest moments. I don't have to I'm not on my phone,
I'm not thinking about no social media, I'm not worried
about nothing. I am literally living in that moment. And
that's the hardest thing to do, is to learn how

(58:53):
to just live in the moment. If you can master
by living in the moment without thinking about this or
that or that or that, I'm telling you will be
the biggest. And that's something that I'm mastering right now
is just appreciating every moment and starting to live in
every moment. You'll wake up and you could be here
and you're like, yo, still thinking, But you could be like, yo,

(59:15):
why didn't I have smoke before I come to my
interviews and I don't have roll up? And now I'm
thinking like, oh no, how about it's okay to be sober,
living the moment. You're here, You're with Angie Martinez, like,
who cares about We put the fucking blood down, enjoy
the moment, and you feel me with shit as soon

(59:36):
as I walk in. Guess, great energy, great vibes. Everybody's
welcome in. We take a shot together, and you're like, yo,
I want to talk like and that's right there is
was like, Okay, if I just just relax and enjoy
the moment, I'll be able to be way more free minded.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Yes that's a big key. It's big, but it is
they say the key to happiness. How happy are you
now when the ones A ten, ten, what say? I
gotta content you there, so that helps. Let's do another
shot so we get around eleven before she is Thank
you so much baby. That is beautiful, all the right