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January 30, 2024 14 mins

We’re back with another IRL #TakeAways. The in-between audio-only podcast where Angie and special guests reflect on episode responses, takeaways, and highlights. 

On this week’s #TakeAways Angie and her producer Brittany go in-depth about her podcast interview with Alicia Keys. Highlights include Keys' ability to blend her star quality with regular human life, her strength from having a supportive team, her ability to say 'no', and her growth in personal and emotional communication thanks to her life coach journey. Angie also ponders over Keys' perspective of maintaining healthy relationships, improving emotional intelligence, juggling career and motherhood, and importance of the 'gut instinct'. Angie shares how Keys' narratives resonate with her own experiences and how she plans to apply some of Keys' practices in her life.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Edgie Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello Everyone, We are back.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is another episode of Edge Martinez Irl Takeaways where
we discuss all of the takeaways, the things that stick
with us from our interview conversations, and our last one
was with Queen Alicia Keys. As we mentioned in the
episode household Name Alicia Keys. Alicia is some one of

(00:29):
those people that I almost take for granted in a
weird way, because I've known her since the beginning of
her career and she's always so kind of I don't
know how to explain it. She carries herself as a
regular human. Right, that's refreshing. That has to be refreshing.
She comes in like a regular human, and then you're like,
wait a minute, this is Alisha freaking Keen. Alicia Keys
is a big deal, guys, but she doesn't really carry

(00:52):
like she doesn't come in.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Did she come in with an entourage? No? No, No,
it's like two people, regular two people. Hey, she's very
still a very New York girl. Yeah, look what she
had on.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
She had a little varsity minimal makeup, hair pulled back
like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
But then she's you know, off traveling the world and
of course getting ready to start her Broadway play and
all the things she does.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
But it was great to have her. She's in good spirits.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
She seems to be like, I don't know, at the
point of her life where she's like assessing all the
things that are important and have maybe done some work
on herself, and she shares some of that. She did
say she was worked with a life coach at one point.
She says, she thinks she could be a life coach
at this point, but there were definitely some things that
stuck with me and have resonated with me. In this
episode number one, she talks about when she is in

(01:47):
her bag and the environment in which she could mostly
be in her bag. And I felt that so deeply
because all of us, I mean, I don't know me.
I shouldn't say all of us. I guess everybody's word
structure is different. If everybody has the kind of flexibility,
if you like, if you have your own business or
but I would imagine that this this idea probably could

(02:10):
apply to different areas. So her thing was like when
her team is strong and the people around her are
supportive and they're handling their business it makes it easier
for her to shine and thrive and be in her bag, right,
But I gotta think that's outside of business too, like
if you're just your friend group, your family group, the
people around you, like if you are supported and all

(02:32):
of the weight of your life is not and other
people's lives are on you. You know, moms go through
that a lot. Like moms, you know, they carrying everybody's load,
They carrying the kids load, the carrying sometimes the husband load,
and the carrying their parents load. And then how can
you possibly be the best version of yourself? And that

(02:53):
carries over into like work and business, like what Alicia
was talking about, how you know when her team is
not strong, she really can't be in her bag that
and I felt that because we have a small team
and sometimes if we're over when I'm overwhelmed, I for
sure can't do my best work. I absolutely If I'm working,
if I'm worried because the hair person did my hair

(03:14):
ridiculously and I'm messing with my hair for ten minutes
before a conversation, It's been possible for me to be
locked into what I'm about to talk about. If I'm
worried about somebody else's job. Does that make sense? Of
course it makes sense. So I love that she shared that,
and it is really true. And I guess it goes
back to what I always talk about on this podcast.
It's like, who are the people around you? Who are
the people that you surround yourself with, not just from

(03:37):
in a workspace, but like in an emotional space, because
that carries over to that. I'm emotional too, So I
felt that deeply. Also, I felt her clear understanding of
the word.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
No word me too.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I felt that even though she didn't seem the way
she said it was a little kookie, like we didn't
even know. She was like sometimes it's yes me and
that maybe. But what she said, if you really listen
to it, I didn't think it was all that kookie.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think I think what she was trying, what made
a kookie was because when we're thinking about whether or
not we want to do something, we try to make
up reasons and excuses to make something work when we really,
at first instinct the answer was no. So that's why
she went in that little rant. We could play play
the clip, play the clip.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I have learned to also trust my gut and I
know what yes feels like. I know what yes feels like.
I'm very clear about what yes, and I know how
it feels when it's a maybe, and I know what
it feels like when it's like, it's not really a no,
but I think that it's going to make a few
people happy, so I make it turn into it yes
because I think that it's going to be nice for

(04:46):
those people. But it's not a yes, it's no.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It wasn't a yes, it was a maybe.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
And so if it's not a yes, then it's a no.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
No that is really good. Why do we do that?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Why why do we say it's a maybe because it
would be nice for other people? Well, we do that
because we care about people, and sometimes it feels good
to do things for other people. Yes, if you have
the bandwidth, if you have it to give. What happens
is if you don't have it to give and you're exhausted,
and then you do things to make other people happy,
then who's on the floor tired exhausted?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's you.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
You're on the floor and the person you try to
be happy is happy, frolicking all over the place, and
you're the one who's on the floor exhausted. We all
do that. We all do that, especially people pleasers. People pleasers.
You know who I'm talking to. You're listening to this,
then you're one.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I don't think I'm much of a people pleaser, but
I don't see it. You No, No, But I do
have guilt. Yeah, Sometimes I feel like somebody deserves something,
or if I really want to but can't, then I
feel bad. I feel like, Okay, yes, God, this would
have been we should did that.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I will have guilt. I give myself guilt. I'm getting
better at it though, I'm getting better at I. If
I have it to give, I give it. But if
I don't have it to give, then the answer is no.
The answer is I don't have it to give, so no,
and just being mindful of that. But for people who

(06:22):
are people pleasers, this is especially important for you because
you just got to be in touch with when a
no is a no, and it's okay to be a no.
It's a no, it's not maybe, it's not an if.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
To know to know normally the first instinct, whatever that
initial reaction is, is normally the right.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
That is one thing I do. I do try to
listen to that to that gut because whenever you go
against it, it's never right.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You always know that.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
And she says that she learned that after doing like
working herself and really learning how to communicate better, because
she does say that she had a problem like being
in touch with her real feelings and her real emotions
because she's been actually such a people pleaser or she
wanted to know, like everything she did was like do
you like it?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Do you like it? Do you like it? How do
you feel about this?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
She always looked for people's opinions and people's you know,
how everyone else felt about something. And she just recently
has been doing work and learned how to open up
and get in touch with her own feelings, which then
translates into your relationship, because if you're in a relationship
with somebody and they're hurting your feelings and you don't
know how to tell somebody that they're hurting your feelings

(07:29):
in a healthy kind of way, that is not good
in a relationship. So she says actually been helpful in
her relationship to be able to be in touch with
her emotions and fully communicate them, and she did a
lot of work in that space. So I thought that
was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
What else? What does some takeaways from you young Brittany.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh, well, elaborating on that, like she used to keep
all the emotions that she had bottled up inside, and
then she realized that she would start having resentment and anger,
and then she wouldn't really she thought that she was
things roll off for her back, but in actuality, something
would pop up and it would trigger her and she'd
be like, wait, I guess I cared more than I

(08:08):
thought I did.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
That's usually the case, gop me dinner. Sorry, That usually is.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
The case when we bury things, two things happen. Number One,
things will pop up. You didn't even realize you were
angry at because you've been burying, burying, burying. And also
what she I think also was trying to explain that burying, burying,
burying feelings and you know, things going on with you.
Eventually you don't know yourself anymore. Eventually you're like, how
do I feel? If you don't learn how to properly

(08:38):
you know, voice and express your emotions, you can get lost.
And I think that's kind of what she was explaining,
which was super honest and well.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
She used an example of her and Swiss about how
something happens and she feels uncomfortable in the moment. She
might not talk about it right then that night, but
she'll go back bring it back. I loved how she
said it too, because it sounded like so healthy.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
It sounded like a sounded like a very sophisticated way
to argue, but not argue, but just kind of get
your point across and hopefully have your partner hear you
play that.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Clip, someone says something to me and my stomach goes, well,
I don't like that, yeah, and something I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Whatever the way they said that like that? That didn't
feel right for me?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
What did that mean? Why would they have said it
like that? Why did it feel like they referenced back
something old that we already settled, but it came back
whatever it might be. Now in that moment, maybe I
don't bring it up, but if I have felt that
that that zing, then I make it a point to
come back to that and I will say, hey, can
I can I talk with you? You know, we were

(09:45):
talking the other day and you said and it just
felt like you were like coming at me and it
didn't feel right, and I just wanted to ask you, like,
what did you mean because maybe I read it wrong.
I don't want to take it out of context. What
what made you say say that? And then they can
have a place to speak to me about it. But
I found in the past I would just hold it,

(10:08):
feel it and then you know, create potential resentment or whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm for sure that for sure is gonna come up
for me, like I'm gonna think about that when something's
bothering me with somebody wait, come back around. Hey, you
know that time when you said that it hurts my feelings.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
So she's so sweet. How she should I don't know
that I have that in me, but it is to
aspire to.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
She uses that same method too when she we talk
about her kids, her two boys, and how she also
kind of uses that same tactic when talking to them.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
There's this cute clip that we played in the interview.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
You should check it out of Genesis telling his mom
put yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
To put her pooves a relationship with her son. Is
so cute.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
But you know, Alicia has this new play that she's doing,
and I guess she had been taking a lot of
time I'm out to work on the play and he
kind of threw a fit.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
You remember this no, Yeah, he threw a friend and
he was like, Mom, you're.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Not spending time with Yeah, yeah, your stupid play. Why
why are you over there with your stupid play? And
she was like, hey, I don't call yourself stupid. It
was like telling about what kind of parents.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
She yes, and she and she She's like, you know, mom,
really I can really care about this. I spent a
lot of time on it, like wrote, instead of another
parent might scold like, how dare you talk.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
To your mom?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I definitely come from that time. Yeah, we don't ever
talk to me in our household. It's definitely don't talk
to me like that. It's also like you don't pay
no bills in this house. Yep, you gonna pay the bills.
I gotta go to work. That's what it is. But
she's like, hey, this is important to mommy.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
And explaining right, yeah, And then he ended up watching
him play and.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Having opinions and being into it, and yeah, I saw
him that night.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
He loved it. I was the other night he saw it.
He was definitely.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
He was definitely having a good time and like in
awe of the whole thing, which was really cute to see.
She also talks about how she had like a moment
of breakdown in front of her son in the car,
kind of like Kelly rowlandmember Kelly Rowland had a similar story.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I love when people are that honest, because sometimes in
those moments where you're like crying in front of your
child because you're just exhausted emotionally, sometimes you could think
you're crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Really, yes, some people could feel like natural to cry.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
It is, we know that, but like, I don't think
that every person who has a moment where they're like, well,
they're not in control of themselves and how they feel
and they're just crying. You can't even really explain why
you're crying, you're just releasing. Yes, that you could feel
a little like am I losing my mind? And sometimes
when you hear like an Alicia Keys or Kelly Rowland

(12:45):
talk about yeah, oh just the other day I was
boohooing in the car because I was overwhelmed, it makes
you feel like, oh, maybe last Thursday that wasn't so
nuts of me. I haven't had one of a good
one of those on a while, but I think I
would enjoy it. I think if that could come for me,
I would actually enjoy that, Like Oh, this is freeing,
but I love when people share that deeply.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
So, yeah, we had a good time with Alicia Keys.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Her play is amazing, by the way, if you get
a chance to check it out, just went to Broadway.
It's like loosely based around her life. We do talk
about that in the episode. We also talk about the
diary coming on anniversary anniversary. Yeah, and she's just in
a good place. She's she worked really hard to be
where she is. She's like, you know, by the way,
we didn't even talk about this, but if you watch

(13:29):
this episode, you'll see she goes into deeply like how
she resolved her issues with her father, not even necessarily resolved,
just moved forward.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, she said she.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Kind of met him where he was and I don't know,
I thought that was super interesting. And you know, she
talks about her mom and doing this play for her
mom and just kind of like the evolution of her
family and her family dynamic. And then also the holidays
are here, so she talked about how her family does
the holidays, which one of those I for sure I'm
taking away and bite it, you know, I love to

(14:00):
bite something off the podcast.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's what in real life is all about bite everything
you can. If we like it, we take it. That's it.
We like it. Jay Balbin said happy on a one
to ten. We took it. It's ours. Alicia Key said.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
On the holidays, they do a grab bag secret Sanna,
but all the gifts have to be handmade.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I took it. I took it. I'm doing that this year.
You gotta let us know how that goes well.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
In the next episode and the next Tech Takeaway episode,
we'll go through how that went. But I'm trying that
this year.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Guys. We'll see. My family is not.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
That cooperative about it, but neither is the leak. Just
apparently you're not that cooperative. But I'm really gonna give
it a try and see how this goes. So yeah,
we'll be back soon in the new episode. But if
you haven't seen the Aliicia Keys interview, you can now.
It's on my YouTube page, and please subscribe and share
with a friends and we'll check you out on the
next Edge Martinez Iral Takeaway.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Bye, guys,
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