February 27, 2024 • 15 mins
We’re back with another IRL #TakeAways. The in-between audio-only podcast where Angie and special guests reflect on episode responses, takeaways, and highlights.
On this week’s #TakeAways Angie and her producer Brittany go in-depth about her podcast interview with Killer Mike. They admire his intelligence, self-awareness, emotional comfort, and vulnerability. Angie recounts Killer Mike's incredible strength and resilience in the face of adversity, including dealing with his mother's suicide attempt, his arrest during the Grammys, and his personal and professional journey. They both tout the importance of maintaining relationships with people of diverse backgrounds and viewing the world from different perspectives. Killer Mike's belief in blending and maintaining familial bonds despite difficulties and his ability to laugh through pain, both exhibited during the interview have been significantly highlighted.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Angie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I Do Say. Hey guys, it's Angie here.
With the new Takeaway episode. We're going to talk about
our kill a mic episode. This week, we interviewed Killer Mike.
It's funny because we interviewed him right before the Grammys.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yep. I wish we would have known how that was
gonna end out.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I was so happy for him when I saw, well,
except for the arrest that happened, but he breezed through
that real fast.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He seems to be fine.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh, and he definitely had a sweep and I know
it was a really exciting night for him. So congratulations
to him on his three Grammys. We were thrilled to
see that. But I love this episode. I think Mike
is so I don't know, see. First of all, he's
so smart, and he's so self aware, and he is
so comfortable in his own skin and his own life
and his own journey. You know, even even the way
(00:54):
he talks about some of really what some people could
probably have a hard time talking about, like his mom
and to commit suicide in front of him. He's so
comfortable with all parts of his life that he could
share that story so kind of freely.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
He's comfortable with his emotions too. He doesn't mind crying.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He doesn't mind crying.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Then he's like so stoic at certain times at the
same time, but then he's he gives himself permission to
be vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
He says he's a crier.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
He's very old school in a lot of ways in
terms of the man woman relationship and how the men
the man is to take care of the family and
the leader of the family. One of the things there's
a lot of things, a lot of takeaways from this episode.
And he's just really smart, and he's just one of
those people that when they talk, you want to listen
to him because you feel like he's got something.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
He got some jewels in there that you want to
kind of hang on to.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But one of the first things I'll say that I
that I remember and it's stuck with me and is
a takeaway from me when he mentioned that everybody should
have friends that are different from you, who are different religion,
different political views, different race, because it helps us understand
each other. Yeah, it's like you know, you used to
(02:13):
We'll play the clip first of all.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
That's why I encourage people to be a one on
one relationships with people who are not like them, Like
you need a one on one relationship with someone who's
not of your religion, not of your ethnic background, not
of even your political beliefs, because once you start to
know that person, you're going to start to find commonality.
And that commonality is going to make it less easy
for you to carry your pride, ego, bigotry, and prejudice
(02:38):
into situations with people.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
From their community.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, you're going to have to come in with an
open mind and open.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Heart, especially with what's happening in the world right now.
Now that's exactly why I like that piece, because of
what's happening in the world right now, like everything is
set up to be separated.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Separated, polarizing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You can't be a Democrat and feel a way about
a p litical issue that is aligned with them. You
can't be a Republican and feel like, hey, those Democrats
are right about that thing, Like it's the lines are
so deep in the sand that it really is, Like
it's just not a healthy way to live. Like we
should have empathy and see other people's perspectives whether we
agree with them or not, and It's funny because when
(03:18):
this episode went up, I did see a few comments
like he's not for gun control, you shouldn't talk to him,
and I'm like, Okay, Mike and I have very different
views on gun policy, completely different. Also, I was raised
in New York City. I have a very different perspective
about what guns do in communities and how they use
(03:41):
and how people are incarcerated for having them. He lived,
he grew up in a different place where other people
had guns, and it was important for him to also
have guns to protect himself.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So, yes, he has different views. I can disagree with
him and still learn a lot from him as a
human being. I can disagree with him, it's still very
much like him. And so yeah, when I saw some
of those comments, I mean, I didn't really make much
of it, but it really is. It's just a testament
to like how the world is set up right now, Like,
so if we only talk to people that we agree
with on every single thing, that is a small group
(04:14):
of people.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Well, progress doesn't happen from talking to people who think
similarly to you.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And then that part as well, So I like that
he said that, and it resonated with me, especially now
I just feel like anytime anybody has a view that
we all kind of like, eh, I don't know about that,
it's all of a sudden we write them off as
they're no good, right, They're not one of us, They're
on the other side, they're the enemy, and it's not
(04:39):
really the case man anyway. So that was one thing
that stuck with me of the many things that stuck
with me from this interview. I mean, obviously the story
about him his mother's addiction and how she you know,
she was battling, she was super sensitive and she was
an artist. Yeah, and he talks about her trying to
commit suicide in front of him and his sister, And
this made me sad. Where he talked about, you know,
(04:59):
from his his family, what he learned was like, why
should you expect life to not be hard? And it's
that mentality that kind of carries him through things. He
kind of just like, Okay, this is hard, I'm gonna
deal with it. I'm gonna go about my business. I'm
not gonna sit in I'm not gonna sit in sadness,
sit in trauma. There is something to be said about
that too, you know, It's like I get it.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
He has a great rule about that though, Like he's like,
you let it all out, you cry, you grieve, you
do whatever you have to do, and then.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You get your ass.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yea, he said. We don't ignore it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, we look at it, we deal with it, but
we gotta you gotta keep it, you gotta keep it moving.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
He really gets tested in his life with that philosophy, because,
I mean, look what happened one of the biggest nights
of his life. He goes to the Grammy and at
the Grammys he arrested. Yeah, he gets arrested, but he
he he I really admire how whatever your religion is,
he is really rooted in his faith though he really
leans on on God to do that. After he got
(05:56):
arrested in the Grammys, he got an interviewed by GQ
after words, and they obviously were asking him about what happened,
and he goes, look, this is his view on how
he was in the cell after.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Winning the Grammys.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I was glad that I had those three hours to
be thankful to God and to be calm and to meditate.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
He's in a cell meditating.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Right, because the very next morning I got a call
that my child after being on the list for three years,
finally got his kidney, and I can just truly tell
you that God is real and the same way Christ
gave us an example of me being by himself, of
being whatever tempted by saying YadA YadA yadh. I'm just
so grateful. I'm grateful not only that I won, but
I'm grateful that God showed me within twenty four hours
(06:39):
that there's something more important than even the accolades that
you worked for, and that my family and my child.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm just thankful. I thank him.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
No, that's a bar. Those are bars, all bars, all
bars God. You know me.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I always say that God will sit you down if
there's a lesson to learn in your life and you
get little taps on the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And you don't pay attention them taps.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Get stronger, they get to push, they get yeah, they
do get to put I.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Really believe that.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I don't mean I don't think God is here to
make your life miserable, but I think He is here to,
you know, in your life, to teach you certain things
and when you're not learning them. Sometimes I do think
people need to be you know, you gotta sit down.
That felt like a moment like that for him at least,
it wasn't so harsh, like a subtle sit down for
him to appreciate, you know, what was real in his life. Yeah, Like,
(07:34):
that's that's pretty amazing. What are some of other other takeaways?
Let me think I like the idea about how he
manages his blended family too. You know, it's a lot
of people with blended families out here. There's always complications
in managing that. But he really believes deeply in like
and it's also again he's he was raised very different
than me. They have family reunions and the dad with
(07:58):
the four kids, it's from the difference. They're all there
and everybody's you know, expected to show up. There's a
very strong sense of family and history in his family,
and man, I respect that. I admire that. And I
know it's not always sweet, it's not always pretty. You know,
sometimes you do have to cut family if they're you know, toxic,
(08:19):
toxic or whatever, if they're just not. But I do
respect that. I do admire that they have that in
their family. I thought that was that was a dope
takeaway from me. It's really important for all the kids
to know each other.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Yeah, he made that he made that clear, like put
whatever your ego and your issues to the side for
this one day, but better know each other.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If I'm being honest, I haven't always operated like I
don't really operate like that for me, but doesn't mean
I can't admire that for somebody else. I do operate
it in some sense, Like my son has brothers and
they're my god kids at this point. My family so
close with them, so we do operate in that sense,
but I don't force it. If there's a long distance
(08:59):
family member that I haven't seen, we don't really see
eye to eye. I'm okay with I'm over here and
you're over there.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Well, it takes both parties to come to that agreement.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's true. That's true. I also just feel like life
is short, man. But that's just me, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's just me growing up in the one bedroom apartment
in New York. Yeah, yeah, that's my experience. Like we're
all trying to just survive, and your immediate family is
your tribe, whereas the way he grew up, the extended
family is the tribe. The history of that family is
their tribe. And I really I do admire that what
do you got.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I really appreciate we talk about a lot of deep
traumas on here, but I appreciate Mike talking about a
moment where he was laughing through pain.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I love that laughter through tears my favorite emotion.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
But he has a funny story that he tells, and
I'll play this clip.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
My mama and I had. My mommy, Denise had one
of the biggest arguments ever after my grandmother. She's always
something I hit me so hard wearing limousine, Sorry, my
mom My autistic uncle. Me, my autistic uncle who thinks
he's like my big uncle still, and he's trying to
(10:12):
call you. He'll call me four times a day. I'm
checking on you. Don't you let nobody use you, don't
you know? And I'm just like, okay, yes, sir, Oh gotcha.
She was like, God, damn it, I can't even more
my mama right, and my uncle's trying to give it.
She says, shut up. I didn't have to fight for
you my whole life your hands. I'm fighting as we
kids from people beating on you, and I'm just like,
oh shit. So in the moment of sadness, I am
(10:34):
bothering laughing, just like, this is fucking amazing. And finally
I'm trying to interject with her, like, Mama, you can't
do you shut the fuck up too, my mom My,
mama should have died with me. I wouldn't. And I'm
just thinking, what the fuck I'm like, I didn't want
to be on death duty. I didn't want to be.
And she says, you don't understand. You think your mama died,
but that was my mom. When I die, You're gonna
(10:57):
understand the feeling I have. And I just thought myself
the fuck out because so now it's me hers arguing
over my grandmother the most. Oh, it is divine comedy
at this point.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And there's a linement it's Still Magnolias that laughter through
tears is like the best emotion.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, that's pretty great. That's pretty great. I do love that.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Really.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I always tell you about that quote from Still Magnolias,
but it really is like, when you want to cry,
if you can find a way to laugh and to
be honest, you don't want to fake laugh, but if
you can find an honest way to just find some
type of humor or something to make you feel okay
in a moment that could otherwise be heavy and wear
you down. It really is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
It's the light at the end of the tunnel, like, yeah,
you're still light, there's still light even in the darkness.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes, that's absolutely what it does. And also this just
keeps coming up this episode. Last episode we had Melissa
Ford and just the connection between mother and child. Yeah,
and uh, you know, we're blessed that our moms are
still here.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
But it does make me. You already talked about how
you appreciate your mom more.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, I have been looking at my mom too, like, okay, mom,
let's go to the gym. Let's go to them and
make sure she's healthy and living. And I mean my
mom's young and fit, thank god. And I mean, you
know so, but this has come up, like just how
how much it shifts people when you when you lose
a parent, when you lose a mother, especially.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
It was interesting from my perspective too, because if you're
like Latino, you're black, what happens is your grandmother and
you have a young mom. The grandmother steps in and
really acts as the mom. So sometimes your mother ends
up being more like a sibling or feeling that way.
Than your actual mother, and but she's still your mother, yeah,
at the end of the day, and he still felt
that when she was gone, And man, God bless him.
(12:44):
I really appreciated him showing up because I know he
wanted to cancel because he actually just lost a family
member the day of the interview, and he thought to himself,
would she want him to be there? And he showed
up in the middle of that pain. And it's weird too,
because when he walked in, I did feel some energy
from him, and I just thought maybe he was having
a day, or he was busy, or he was like
I mean, he shook it off. He was he wasn't
(13:05):
remote or anything, but he just seemed in his own
head a little bit. And the fact that he still
showed up, I thought I appreciated that from him. So, yeah,
you just never know what people are going through, man,
any time, And I thank Mike for sharing his story.
Those are just a couple of the takeaways. Honestly, there
was so much in this episode, so much. There's great
takeaways about waiting for your moment, and again we have
(13:28):
the theme of like enjoying your journey. Mike's been doing
music for decades and he's finally getting this big moment
of celebration. He made that great Grammy speech about you know,
it's never too late.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
There's great. Yeah, Mike, Yeah, Mike, I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know me, I've been on my Martha Stewart started
her business at fifty Okay, Martha's started her business. It
is a billion dollar company. Martha Stewart's company. She started
that at fifty years old. That is the great that
right now, this is the big agent time of my life.
I hold on to that. I'm trying to start all
kinds of new businesses in the next couple of hours,
(14:05):
as we will the next couple of years.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So yeah, so it's never too late.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
He had actually his MIC's takeaway from this episode and
when he hope people got out of it was very similar.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Let's let's end with that. So looking at your life
in real life, like what do you hope people take from.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Your life and your story at the end of the day,
Oh Man, ain't nothing impossible. Oh Man, little black buck
tooth boy from the West side of Atlanta. Man has
grown to be one of the most influential people on
social level. Is going to be a business person that's
going to make his family proud, has figured out blending
his big family kids who ain't got the same mamas.
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And you know, it's just nothing's impossible, but you gotta
get up every day. And my team says this, they
put one foot in front of the other, wishing for
it is not enough. If you want to see the
world change, start with the street you live on. You know,
if we all do a little bit, no one has
to do a lot. You've got to plot, playing, strategize, organized,
vobilize and every step of you know it did just
(15:04):
on the personal when I'm learning it's may my grandma,
take care of yourself first, be selfish with yourself, selfish.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Words talk that talk Mike killer, Mike Michael, as he
likes to be called. Okay, if you haven't seen the
interview yet, you will not regret it. There's more to
it than what we just discussed. Those were just some
of our takeaways, like we like to do it after
every one of our interviews. So feel free to go
check out the interview. You can listen to it right here,
you can watch it on my YouTube page Andrew Martinez IRL.
And we'll be back next week. Thank you guys so
(15:33):
much for checking out the episode, make sure you subscribe
and we'll see you on the next one.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Bye.
Angie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I Do Say. Hey guys, it's Angie here.
With the new Takeaway episode. We're going to talk about
our kill a mic episode. This week, we interviewed Killer Mike.
It's funny because we interviewed him right before the Grammys.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yep. I wish we would have known how that was
gonna end out.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I was so happy for him when I saw, well,
except for the arrest that happened, but he breezed through
that real fast.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He seems to be fine.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh, and he definitely had a sweep and I know
it was a really exciting night for him. So congratulations
to him on his three Grammys. We were thrilled to
see that. But I love this episode. I think Mike
is so I don't know, see. First of all, he's
so smart, and he's so self aware, and he is
so comfortable in his own skin and his own life
and his own journey. You know, even even the way
(00:54):
he talks about some of really what some people could
probably have a hard time talking about, like his mom
and to commit suicide in front of him. He's so
comfortable with all parts of his life that he could
share that story so kind of freely.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
He's comfortable with his emotions too. He doesn't mind crying.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He doesn't mind crying.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Then he's like so stoic at certain times at the
same time, but then he's he gives himself permission to
be vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
He says he's a crier.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
He's very old school in a lot of ways in
terms of the man woman relationship and how the men
the man is to take care of the family and
the leader of the family. One of the things there's
a lot of things, a lot of takeaways from this episode.
And he's just really smart, and he's just one of
those people that when they talk, you want to listen
to him because you feel like he's got something.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
He got some jewels in there that you want to
kind of hang on to.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But one of the first things I'll say that I
that I remember and it's stuck with me and is
a takeaway from me when he mentioned that everybody should
have friends that are different from you, who are different religion,
different political views, different race, because it helps us understand
each other. Yeah, it's like you know, you used to
(02:13):
We'll play the clip first of all.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
That's why I encourage people to be a one on
one relationships with people who are not like them, Like
you need a one on one relationship with someone who's
not of your religion, not of your ethnic background, not
of even your political beliefs, because once you start to
know that person, you're going to start to find commonality.
And that commonality is going to make it less easy
for you to carry your pride, ego, bigotry, and prejudice
(02:38):
into situations with people.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
From their community.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, you're going to have to come in with an
open mind and open.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Heart, especially with what's happening in the world right now.
Now that's exactly why I like that piece, because of
what's happening in the world right now, like everything is
set up to be separated.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Separated, polarizing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You can't be a Democrat and feel a way about
a p litical issue that is aligned with them. You
can't be a Republican and feel like, hey, those Democrats
are right about that thing, Like it's the lines are
so deep in the sand that it really is, Like
it's just not a healthy way to live. Like we
should have empathy and see other people's perspectives whether we
agree with them or not, and It's funny because when
(03:18):
this episode went up, I did see a few comments
like he's not for gun control, you shouldn't talk to him,
and I'm like, Okay, Mike and I have very different
views on gun policy, completely different. Also, I was raised
in New York City. I have a very different perspective
about what guns do in communities and how they use
(03:41):
and how people are incarcerated for having them. He lived,
he grew up in a different place where other people
had guns, and it was important for him to also
have guns to protect himself.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So, yes, he has different views. I can disagree with
him and still learn a lot from him as a
human being. I can disagree with him, it's still very
much like him. And so yeah, when I saw some
of those comments, I mean, I didn't really make much
of it, but it really is. It's just a testament
to like how the world is set up right now, Like,
so if we only talk to people that we agree
with on every single thing, that is a small group
(04:14):
of people.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Well, progress doesn't happen from talking to people who think
similarly to you.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And then that part as well, So I like that
he said that, and it resonated with me, especially now
I just feel like anytime anybody has a view that
we all kind of like, eh, I don't know about that,
it's all of a sudden we write them off as
they're no good, right, They're not one of us, They're
on the other side, they're the enemy, and it's not
(04:39):
really the case man anyway. So that was one thing
that stuck with me of the many things that stuck
with me from this interview. I mean, obviously the story
about him his mother's addiction and how she you know,
she was battling, she was super sensitive and she was
an artist. Yeah, and he talks about her trying to
commit suicide in front of him and his sister, And
this made me sad. Where he talked about, you know,
(04:59):
from his his family, what he learned was like, why
should you expect life to not be hard? And it's
that mentality that kind of carries him through things. He
kind of just like, Okay, this is hard, I'm gonna
deal with it. I'm gonna go about my business. I'm
not gonna sit in I'm not gonna sit in sadness,
sit in trauma. There is something to be said about
that too, you know, It's like I get it.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
He has a great rule about that though, Like he's like,
you let it all out, you cry, you grieve, you
do whatever you have to do, and then.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You get your ass.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yea, he said. We don't ignore it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, we look at it, we deal with it, but
we gotta you gotta keep it, you gotta keep it moving.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
He really gets tested in his life with that philosophy, because,
I mean, look what happened one of the biggest nights
of his life. He goes to the Grammy and at
the Grammys he arrested. Yeah, he gets arrested, but he
he he I really admire how whatever your religion is,
he is really rooted in his faith though he really
leans on on God to do that. After he got
(05:56):
arrested in the Grammys, he got an interviewed by GQ
after words, and they obviously were asking him about what happened,
and he goes, look, this is his view on how
he was in the cell after.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Winning the Grammys.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I was glad that I had those three hours to
be thankful to God and to be calm and to meditate.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
He's in a cell meditating.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Right, because the very next morning I got a call
that my child after being on the list for three years,
finally got his kidney, and I can just truly tell
you that God is real and the same way Christ
gave us an example of me being by himself, of
being whatever tempted by saying YadA YadA yadh. I'm just
so grateful. I'm grateful not only that I won, but
I'm grateful that God showed me within twenty four hours
(06:39):
that there's something more important than even the accolades that
you worked for, and that my family and my child.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm just thankful. I thank him.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
No, that's a bar. Those are bars, all bars, all
bars God. You know me.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I always say that God will sit you down if
there's a lesson to learn in your life and you
get little taps on the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And you don't pay attention them taps.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Get stronger, they get to push, they get yeah, they
do get to put I.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Really believe that.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I don't mean I don't think God is here to
make your life miserable, but I think He is here to,
you know, in your life, to teach you certain things
and when you're not learning them. Sometimes I do think
people need to be you know, you gotta sit down.
That felt like a moment like that for him at least,
it wasn't so harsh, like a subtle sit down for
him to appreciate, you know, what was real in his life. Yeah, Like,
(07:34):
that's that's pretty amazing. What are some of other other takeaways?
Let me think I like the idea about how he
manages his blended family too. You know, it's a lot
of people with blended families out here. There's always complications
in managing that. But he really believes deeply in like
and it's also again he's he was raised very different
than me. They have family reunions and the dad with
(07:58):
the four kids, it's from the difference. They're all there
and everybody's you know, expected to show up. There's a
very strong sense of family and history in his family,
and man, I respect that. I admire that. And I
know it's not always sweet, it's not always pretty. You know,
sometimes you do have to cut family if they're you know, toxic,
(08:19):
toxic or whatever, if they're just not. But I do
respect that. I do admire that they have that in
their family. I thought that was that was a dope
takeaway from me. It's really important for all the kids
to know each other.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Yeah, he made that he made that clear, like put
whatever your ego and your issues to the side for
this one day, but better know each other.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If I'm being honest, I haven't always operated like I
don't really operate like that for me, but doesn't mean
I can't admire that for somebody else. I do operate
it in some sense, Like my son has brothers and
they're my god kids at this point. My family so
close with them, so we do operate in that sense,
but I don't force it. If there's a long distance
(08:59):
family member that I haven't seen, we don't really see
eye to eye. I'm okay with I'm over here and
you're over there.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Well, it takes both parties to come to that agreement.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's true. That's true. I also just feel like life
is short, man. But that's just me, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's just me growing up in the one bedroom apartment
in New York. Yeah, yeah, that's my experience. Like we're
all trying to just survive, and your immediate family is
your tribe, whereas the way he grew up, the extended
family is the tribe. The history of that family is
their tribe. And I really I do admire that what
do you got.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I really appreciate we talk about a lot of deep
traumas on here, but I appreciate Mike talking about a
moment where he was laughing through pain.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I love that laughter through tears my favorite emotion.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
But he has a funny story that he tells, and
I'll play this clip.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
My mama and I had. My mommy, Denise had one
of the biggest arguments ever after my grandmother. She's always
something I hit me so hard wearing limousine, Sorry, my
mom My autistic uncle. Me, my autistic uncle who thinks
he's like my big uncle still, and he's trying to
(10:12):
call you. He'll call me four times a day. I'm
checking on you. Don't you let nobody use you, don't
you know? And I'm just like, okay, yes, sir, Oh gotcha.
She was like, God, damn it, I can't even more
my mama right, and my uncle's trying to give it.
She says, shut up. I didn't have to fight for
you my whole life your hands. I'm fighting as we
kids from people beating on you, and I'm just like,
oh shit. So in the moment of sadness, I am
(10:34):
bothering laughing, just like, this is fucking amazing. And finally
I'm trying to interject with her, like, Mama, you can't
do you shut the fuck up too, my mom My,
mama should have died with me. I wouldn't. And I'm
just thinking, what the fuck I'm like, I didn't want
to be on death duty. I didn't want to be.
And she says, you don't understand. You think your mama died,
but that was my mom. When I die, You're gonna
(10:57):
understand the feeling I have. And I just thought myself
the fuck out because so now it's me hers arguing
over my grandmother the most. Oh, it is divine comedy
at this point.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And there's a linement it's Still Magnolias that laughter through
tears is like the best emotion.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, that's pretty great. That's pretty great. I do love that.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Really.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I always tell you about that quote from Still Magnolias,
but it really is like, when you want to cry,
if you can find a way to laugh and to
be honest, you don't want to fake laugh, but if
you can find an honest way to just find some
type of humor or something to make you feel okay
in a moment that could otherwise be heavy and wear
you down. It really is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
It's the light at the end of the tunnel, like, yeah,
you're still light, there's still light even in the darkness.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes, that's absolutely what it does. And also this just
keeps coming up this episode. Last episode we had Melissa
Ford and just the connection between mother and child. Yeah,
and uh, you know, we're blessed that our moms are
still here.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
But it does make me. You already talked about how
you appreciate your mom more.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, I have been looking at my mom too, like, okay, mom,
let's go to the gym. Let's go to them and
make sure she's healthy and living. And I mean my
mom's young and fit, thank god. And I mean, you
know so, but this has come up, like just how
how much it shifts people when you when you lose
a parent, when you lose a mother, especially.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
It was interesting from my perspective too, because if you're
like Latino, you're black, what happens is your grandmother and
you have a young mom. The grandmother steps in and
really acts as the mom. So sometimes your mother ends
up being more like a sibling or feeling that way.
Than your actual mother, and but she's still your mother, yeah,
at the end of the day, and he still felt
that when she was gone, And man, God bless him.
(12:44):
I really appreciated him showing up because I know he
wanted to cancel because he actually just lost a family
member the day of the interview, and he thought to himself,
would she want him to be there? And he showed
up in the middle of that pain. And it's weird too,
because when he walked in, I did feel some energy
from him, and I just thought maybe he was having
a day, or he was busy, or he was like
I mean, he shook it off. He was he wasn't
(13:05):
remote or anything, but he just seemed in his own
head a little bit. And the fact that he still
showed up, I thought I appreciated that from him. So, yeah,
you just never know what people are going through, man,
any time, And I thank Mike for sharing his story.
Those are just a couple of the takeaways. Honestly, there
was so much in this episode, so much. There's great
takeaways about waiting for your moment, and again we have
(13:28):
the theme of like enjoying your journey. Mike's been doing
music for decades and he's finally getting this big moment
of celebration. He made that great Grammy speech about you know,
it's never too late.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
There's great. Yeah, Mike, Yeah, Mike, I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know me, I've been on my Martha Stewart started
her business at fifty Okay, Martha's started her business. It
is a billion dollar company. Martha Stewart's company. She started
that at fifty years old. That is the great that
right now, this is the big agent time of my life.
I hold on to that. I'm trying to start all
kinds of new businesses in the next couple of hours,
(14:05):
as we will the next couple of years.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So yeah, so it's never too late.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
He had actually his MIC's takeaway from this episode and
when he hope people got out of it was very similar.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Let's let's end with that. So looking at your life
in real life, like what do you hope people take from.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Your life and your story at the end of the day,
Oh Man, ain't nothing impossible. Oh Man, little black buck
tooth boy from the West side of Atlanta. Man has
grown to be one of the most influential people on
social level. Is going to be a business person that's
going to make his family proud, has figured out blending
his big family kids who ain't got the same mamas.
(14:41):
And you know, it's just nothing's impossible, but you gotta
get up every day. And my team says this, they
put one foot in front of the other, wishing for
it is not enough. If you want to see the
world change, start with the street you live on. You know,
if we all do a little bit, no one has
to do a lot. You've got to plot, playing, strategize, organized,
vobilize and every step of you know it did just
(15:04):
on the personal when I'm learning it's may my grandma,
take care of yourself first, be selfish with yourself, selfish.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Words talk that talk Mike killer, Mike Michael, as he
likes to be called. Okay, if you haven't seen the
interview yet, you will not regret it. There's more to
it than what we just discussed. Those were just some
of our takeaways, like we like to do it after
every one of our interviews. So feel free to go
check out the interview. You can listen to it right here,
you can watch it on my YouTube page Andrew Martinez IRL.
And we'll be back next week. Thank you guys so
(15:33):
much for checking out the episode, make sure you subscribe
and we'll see you on the next one.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Bye.
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