November 1, 2023 • 22 mins
We set off our new season of the IRL Podcast with a live taping of Rich Paul IRL. One of the biggest takeaways is how sometimes you must make sacrifices for the team to win. Everybody wants to win but not everyone is willing to put in the work. Rich Paul brings up not wanting to be in the limelight initially, although this did not necessarily mean he wouldn’t be seen. He brings up growing up in a rough environment and circumstances which lead him to be guarded, although he touches on how letting your guard down and being vulnerable is needed for growth. If you make it about your value and potential, taking a risk is not gambling, instead it’s about not settling for less than you deserve.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Agie Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I Do Say, Hey, guys, we are back.
It is another edition of the Edgie Martinez Irl Takeaways.
So I'm sure some of you know by now, but
these episodes are just takeaways of some of the amazing
conversations we've had. Our season is officially back, which is
(00:21):
very exciting because we had a little bit late in
the returning just because life was lifing and real life
was real lifing, and so we took a little break
to regroup and we are back now in the new season,
and we launched with our first live event, which was
so dope and so exciting and just I don't know,
it was a perfect way to launch because I feel
(00:41):
like number one, we had a great conversation with Rich Paul.
Number two of the event was super dope, and number
three I got a chance, I don't know something about
being in the room with community to have these conversations
was a perfect way to set off this new season. Anyway,
So I'm here with Britain our show producer, Hey Hey,
(01:02):
and then Young Nyla. Nyla's moan Hello actually DJed our
first live event, Yes at the beautiful compound. Shout out
to set Free for hosting it.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
They have.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It was just it just was like shout out to Duce.
We had drinks, we had art, we had food, food
amazing and buts. We had Nyla DJing playing an assortment
of I don't know who you're playing vibes, a whole
lot of jay Z, a lot of it felt like
a jay Z room. We were in Brooklyn and then
our guest was Rich Paul Rich of course just put
(01:35):
a book out and it's called Lucky Me. And so
I know Rich, I've been around them before. I know
he's super smart, super successful, always interested to talk to
anybody who I think we could learn something from and
why you know, and so I was excited that he
agreed to do the pod. And what are our takeaways?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What are what are the number one things that.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
People have said about this conversation, Brittany, that was you?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh thanks, thank you?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well? What were your talk takeaways?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
First of all, like my personal ones?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, everyone has to make a sacrifice for the.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Team to win. Mm hmmm, he said that, Yeah, he
said that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I mean, I was there, but I don't know, I
don't have that specific wording when did when did that
come up?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What's the one thing? The big thing, the.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Big thing, fight, like everyone has to make a sacrifice
in order for the team to win. Right when the
college scouts was coming, I didn't get I didn't complain
because they're not coming to this. I know they're not
coming to see me. I ain't played in six games.
They come to see me, then they go they don't
have this job for long.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
But but at the end, but I'm also not afraid
to say that, right because I know who I am.
But ultimately, you got to know when to jump off
that that that dream train, especially if that dream could
never become a reality. There's a lot of kids chasing
that dream of being the actual out and in the
black community, we spend so much time trying to be
(03:03):
the talent that we never build anything.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It was about the bigger conversation than him talking about
how he didn't aspire to be in front of the limelight.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah and that how oh what he was talking about
being on the college team. Yes, really playing, Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Everyone has to make a sacrifice for the team to win.
It's not a new thought, but coming from him having
the success he has is like, yes, it's more meaningful
because I'm a person behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You felt seen.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yes, I think you and I never I never aspire
to be in front. I never aspired to be the
person with all the lime night. That comes to different burdens.
But also when you when you don't aspire to be
the front, sometimes it feels like you get less appreciation
because people are not aware of the effort that you
(03:54):
put behind it. So I appreciate it, We appreciate you.
Thank you, you.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Are appreciating it. And I was like, if I had clearance,
I would play in Tupac.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You are appreciate it right now. All good, guys, All good.
That's my small violence. Let me see, well my take away,
there was a few, a lot of them. I love
his red flags. Oh, I'm looking for characters and people
who have insecurity or people. This was interesting because this
was more like a business takeaway, but not really because
(04:27):
in real life too, Like he was saying that, like
in business, if you're negotiating with somebody, you're doing business
with somebody and they're so focused on what they get
out of everything, selfish, that is a red flag selfish, right,
And so we think about that in terms of like
personal relationships, we don't necessarily think about that in business
and the people we want to do business with, Like
business dealing should work for both parties, right, and so
(04:49):
if you approach it that way and how to, I
don't know. I just I thought that was interesting, an
interesting take that that was such something that he really
paid attention to. That was a red flag when somebody
is too self obsessed with what works for them. But
also in real life and our partners and our friendships,
you know those friends that are always like, come to
my I need you to, I'm going through this.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And then they don't show up to your stuff, yo.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But then like, you know, so I think you know,
that was interesting to hear his business take on that
type of like personality flaw.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
If someone is too focused on what's only in it
for them, or again going back to how you treat people,
if you're not respecting people that are basically making your
life easier, that's a character flaw. And by the way,
the more successful you become, the better person you should
(05:44):
become too. You got to work on that as well.
Like if you're going to be successful, be successful in everything.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But that's about building relationships, Like his whole career is
based on relationships. Yeah, working your relationships that you have,
and you don't want to come back and do business
with someone who was only thinking about themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So if you just play let's be as fair as possible.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, it makes me okay, I want to do more
deals with this person.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
And then outside of that, it's like you're really only
doing it for you, you know, like you're not doing it
for love, you're not doing it for the passion. You're
just doing it to get from A to B. Yes, nobody,
what's work with those type of people?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Life's too short, by the way.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You set a bar about that too, because stepping out
of business and going into relationships.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You know, Rich Paul came from a really rough background.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
His mom was addicted to drugs, Like, he had to
hustle from a very very young age and every spectrum
of life. And Angie actually said a bar and was like,
the wrong people can ruin your life depending on the
circle that but it's.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Also not a groundbreaking thought, yes, but but it is
groundbreaking if you if you really use, if you really
are mindful about the decisions you make, because sometimes you
just get into friendship. You get into relationship because it's convenient,
because somebody's cool, somebody's funny, somebody makes it squeeze their
way into your life. Like, but if you are always
(07:01):
aware and you make conscious decisions about the people in
your life, that's how you fix That's how you fix that,
that's how you change it. Because yes, of course, bad
people could make you a bad life, literally ruin your life.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, but we.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Don't always consciously make decisions about the people that we
spend the most time with, even in work, in relationships,
in friendships. You know, even as much as crazy as
it sounds, but like your neighbors, Like you move into
a house, you buy your first home, you don't research
who's on the block. Yeah, now you're dealing with a
(07:33):
whole block full of neighbors that could ruin your life
because they're crazy, because they're because whatever. It's just like,
making conscious decisions about the people in your life at
all times really could be the night and day difference
between a good life and a bad life, success and failure.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
It's true, you also got to have the willingness to
speak up and say something about not wanting them to
be around, because, like you.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Said, people will like squeeze their away in.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, that's only if you let them. Can't force. Yeah,
don't care, you can't forced.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
But like having to verbalize your boundaries. I guess it's
something new that I'm practicing. And it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
What do you do? Tell me what you do when
somebody is trying to get in your space and you're like,
You're like, well, you don't do anything yet.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I you go to them, do you ghosts or you like, oh,
I tried ghosting one person. It did not work. They
still hit me. So then I just was like up straight,
I just was blunt about it and said what, Yeah,
I really want to know what I said?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, you want to.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I don't really want to say pretty person's gonna know.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, but pretty much I told them like I don't
have the mental capacity to deal with you, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Have a lot going on in so many That was fair, though.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I was expecting a lot rougher. That's way more mature
than I ever am. Yeah, that was really Yeah, I'm
not as mature as you. You would think that I
am the grown one in the room that you think
I'm be the most mature. I don't go that far. Well,
then again, I just cut it off faster. I don't
even I don't if I see flags. I don't get
myself to a point where I owe anybody an explanation, so.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I will be I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
By the time I get to a point with you
that I owe you an explanation for not wanting you
to be around, I've probably already removed myself because I
saw something in you that I was not interested in.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
But you know, they felt you ghosting them, Like, it's
not ghosting.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's just a little arm a little elbow up, a.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Little, a little, it's just elbow up like, you know,
a little boys they call it a little, a little
just bad, you know, a.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Little back up. And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So what if they felt uncomfortable, it's not uncomfortable, it's
just they felt you maybe pull away. I don't know me,
and maybe it's not the right thing to do, but
I have always I will. You know me, you guys
know me. Yeah, I will let you know if you
are welcomed into my space, for sure. And I'm a
welcoming person, like I'm gracious and I like to talk
to people and meet people. But if you push me
(09:58):
too far to something that I'm comfortable with for whatever reason,
and I will make sure that a boundary is understood.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Was it always like that, though, or did you cultivate that?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I don't I could. I've been like that as as
long as I can remember.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh well, that's good.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I feel like it's a hard thing to cultivate because
what happens like for me, I don't get close to
a lot of people. But then if I do and
then you burn me bad, I never want to speak
to you ever again, and then I don't want to
speak to anybody new.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I feel like sometimes I.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Lose out on new people growing and also yes, new people,
but also deepening bonds because sometimes in my mind, I'm like, well,
if you don't go through something like a rough patch
in a row with somebody, are y'all really tight?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Like that's interesting because you guys are both capricorns. Sorry
I'm in astrology. But your January in your December, so
that might be a difference. But usually like signs handle
things the same usually, yeah, but you guys are on
different accords.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Not really.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
She's guarded too, just in a different way. She just
has uses different like tactics, Yeah, tactics I'm super guarded.
You know that different though, because I'm also a public personality. Yeah, so,
because I'm also very humble and grateful. I live very great.
I live great, you know, I'm just grateful every day.
So if someone that I don't know is showing me
(11:23):
a genuine love, I'm so grateful. So I'm open, treat
people open. It's not until somebody is intrusive or in
red flag or shows a red flag that this is
not something that I'm not comfortable, then I will the
arm will go up here.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know who else is guarded? Rich Paul?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yes, Yeah, by the way, he was, I'm going to
say this, he was, even even when we were talking.
There was a moment he told me that when he
said when I was asking him, because he went through
a tough childhood. His mother was a drug addict, his
father had a whole separate family, didn't live in the house,
and he said he wasn't angry at them at any point,
that he just became a hustle. He respected his father
(12:02):
a lot because he taught him a lot. He was
still very much in his life. He worked with him
at the store. He liked the way his father, you know,
carried his mother. He explained to the kids that mommy's sick.
So it gave rich a kind of sensibility about how
to feel about his mother, that it wasn't personal, so
he didn't. He says, he didn't have anger. It's really
(12:23):
hard for me to understand. Yeah, none at any point.
And then he said he doesn't ever complain about anything,
crazy because he said I had nobody to complain too.
So it does really make you understand his hustless spirit
because everything he had to he had to survive. He
had to find that from inside of himself. He didn't
(12:45):
have you know what I mean, He had to deep
inside figure out, Okay, what am I gonna do? How
am I going to manage this with it? And then
also now in his business, it makes sense that he
maneuvers that way, but to never complain, I don't know
if that's healthy.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Is that healthy?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Probably not, but I did like that one for him.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I guess maybe it is. I guess depends on your personality.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Maybe he doesn't outwardly complain to people like in business.
He won't be like, oh that really made me angry. Thing,
But I think he's definitely sitting with himself that's got
a shower.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Being honest, you have to.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
There's no person on earth I think can not zero
complaints at all. It's impossible.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I like that he shared about the two parent household
aspect and kind of being like the outcast, because literally,
probably a week before, I was having a similar conversation
with Ruben Vincent, who's an artist, and he was saying
how he grew up in a household like that and
he always felt conflicted because you know, he was like
(13:48):
the step child and no matter which side of the
family he went to, and he said that he wished
he knew somebody else who went through something similar. So
when I was listening to the podcast, I was like,
oh my gosh, I sent.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Rubin the book.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Immediately he was like, yo, thank you, Like I love this,
and yeah, he felt seen.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So I think I think him sharing his story is
definitely going to.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Help a lot of people. Oh this is one. I
got another one. I liked this part and we were
talking because the book is called Lucky Me. He talks
a lot about gambling. He gambled when he was a kid,
he gambles now. And then we talked about his first
big deal where he was gambling on somebody else's life.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Where I said, where this is going?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Where the client? Where? His client got offered this big
deal at a young age. His name is Bled, so
he calls him blood. He said, you know they offered
him this I think was seven million dollars a year
or whatever. He believed he should get a lot more,
so he said, no, we're not going to take it.
Turns out he winds up getting a lot more that
the gamble paid off. Right when I said to him,
you're gambling with somebody else's life, which I don't know
(14:47):
that I would have. I don't know how I would
manage that, Like would I be that brave to gamble
with somebody else's life? And his response I thought was amazing.
And he said, well, if you you make it about
the money, it's a gamble. If you make it about
your value, it's not a gamble because you're just not
settling for what's not your value. It's not you're not gambling,
(15:10):
you're just waiting for your value. You're not accepting something
that's not your value.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I know it's like it's still a gamble, of course,
but there's something about the notion of how you operate
based on your value. And it wasn't just a random
hail Mary gamble. He was saying that he surrounded himself
with amazing people that helped him to inform his decision making.
So it was an educated kind of gamble. So you know,
(15:37):
Richar's dope. He's super smart. I will be honest. The
conversation was way longer than the actual episode because it
was a live experience. You really did have to be there.
There was a lot that happened in the room that
was super special. People coming up, there were hugs, there
were pictures, questions, there were great questions off the mic.
He signed some books, He signed books. He was really cool.
(15:59):
He was super cool, And honestly, I loved seeing the
people in the room connecting with each other as well
and talking about some of the things, and it just,
I don't know, it felt it like a really amazing
room for connection and community. So hopefully we'll do more
of those, and I look forward to seeing you guys
at some of those live events because they are really special.
But I did want to share some of the highlights,
(16:19):
so we did put a I think thirty minutes, so
it's like a thirty minute version of the conversation up
on the YouTube page, so if you haven't had a
chance to check that out, you should. He's great, he's
super smart, he loves Adele. They have an easy relationship,
he says. He says, you know, a man got to
be ready. When a man's ready. He said, he used
to value you know, he used to think more was better,
(16:39):
and now I guess he's at a different, more evolved
stag his life. We talked about it a tiny bit
and yeah, he was great and so definitely worth checking out.
It's a short episode because I said, like I said,
it was a live event, but it was impactful and
meaningful and thank you to so much to everybody who
came out to join us at compound.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, and let us no, we're going to have more
of these live events, So let us know who you'd
like to see next word, and we'll see you at
the next one.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We will see you at the next one. And in
the meantime, you could check out the rich Pole episode
on Angey Martinez Irl on the wherever podcasts are heard,
or you can go to YouTube and watch it there.
Please subscribe, tell your friends and we will check you
out on the next episode. We're doing j Z next
(22:35):
ah thanks guys,
Agie Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I Do Say, Hey, guys, we are back.
It is another edition of the Edgie Martinez Irl Takeaways.
So I'm sure some of you know by now, but
these episodes are just takeaways of some of the amazing
conversations we've had. Our season is officially back, which is
(00:21):
very exciting because we had a little bit late in
the returning just because life was lifing and real life
was real lifing, and so we took a little break
to regroup and we are back now in the new season,
and we launched with our first live event, which was
so dope and so exciting and just I don't know,
it was a perfect way to launch because I feel
(00:41):
like number one, we had a great conversation with Rich Paul.
Number two of the event was super dope, and number
three I got a chance, I don't know something about
being in the room with community to have these conversations
was a perfect way to set off this new season. Anyway,
So I'm here with Britain our show producer, Hey Hey,
(01:02):
and then Young Nyla. Nyla's moan Hello actually DJed our
first live event, Yes at the beautiful compound. Shout out
to set Free for hosting it.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
They have.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It was just it just was like shout out to Duce.
We had drinks, we had art, we had food, food
amazing and buts. We had Nyla DJing playing an assortment
of I don't know who you're playing vibes, a whole
lot of jay Z, a lot of it felt like
a jay Z room. We were in Brooklyn and then
our guest was Rich Paul Rich of course just put
(01:35):
a book out and it's called Lucky Me. And so
I know Rich, I've been around them before. I know
he's super smart, super successful, always interested to talk to
anybody who I think we could learn something from and
why you know, and so I was excited that he
agreed to do the pod. And what are our takeaways?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What are what are the number one things that.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
People have said about this conversation, Brittany, that was you?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh thanks, thank you?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well? What were your talk takeaways?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
First of all, like my personal ones?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, everyone has to make a sacrifice for the.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Team to win. Mm hmmm, he said that, Yeah, he
said that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I mean, I was there, but I don't know, I
don't have that specific wording when did when did that
come up?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What's the one thing? The big thing, the.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Big thing, fight, like everyone has to make a sacrifice
in order for the team to win. Right when the
college scouts was coming, I didn't get I didn't complain
because they're not coming to this. I know they're not
coming to see me. I ain't played in six games.
They come to see me, then they go they don't
have this job for long.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
But but at the end, but I'm also not afraid
to say that, right because I know who I am.
But ultimately, you got to know when to jump off
that that that dream train, especially if that dream could
never become a reality. There's a lot of kids chasing
that dream of being the actual out and in the
black community, we spend so much time trying to be
(03:03):
the talent that we never build anything.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It was about the bigger conversation than him talking about
how he didn't aspire to be in front of the limelight.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah and that how oh what he was talking about
being on the college team. Yes, really playing, Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Everyone has to make a sacrifice for the team to win.
It's not a new thought, but coming from him having
the success he has is like, yes, it's more meaningful
because I'm a person behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You felt seen.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yes, I think you and I never I never aspire
to be in front. I never aspired to be the
person with all the lime night. That comes to different burdens.
But also when you when you don't aspire to be
the front, sometimes it feels like you get less appreciation
because people are not aware of the effort that you
(03:54):
put behind it. So I appreciate it, We appreciate you.
Thank you, you.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Are appreciating it. And I was like, if I had clearance,
I would play in Tupac.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You are appreciate it right now. All good, guys, All good.
That's my small violence. Let me see, well my take away,
there was a few, a lot of them. I love
his red flags. Oh, I'm looking for characters and people
who have insecurity or people. This was interesting because this
was more like a business takeaway, but not really because
(04:27):
in real life too, Like he was saying that, like
in business, if you're negotiating with somebody, you're doing business
with somebody and they're so focused on what they get
out of everything, selfish, that is a red flag selfish, right,
And so we think about that in terms of like
personal relationships, we don't necessarily think about that in business
and the people we want to do business with, Like
business dealing should work for both parties, right, and so
(04:49):
if you approach it that way and how to, I
don't know. I just I thought that was interesting, an
interesting take that that was such something that he really
paid attention to. That was a red flag when somebody
is too self obsessed with what works for them. But
also in real life and our partners and our friendships,
you know those friends that are always like, come to
my I need you to, I'm going through this.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And then they don't show up to your stuff, yo.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But then like, you know, so I think you know,
that was interesting to hear his business take on that
type of like personality flaw.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
If someone is too focused on what's only in it
for them, or again going back to how you treat people,
if you're not respecting people that are basically making your
life easier, that's a character flaw. And by the way,
the more successful you become, the better person you should
(05:44):
become too. You got to work on that as well.
Like if you're going to be successful, be successful in everything.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But that's about building relationships, Like his whole career is
based on relationships. Yeah, working your relationships that you have,
and you don't want to come back and do business
with someone who was only thinking about themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So if you just play let's be as fair as possible.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, it makes me okay, I want to do more
deals with this person.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
And then outside of that, it's like you're really only
doing it for you, you know, like you're not doing it
for love, you're not doing it for the passion. You're
just doing it to get from A to B. Yes, nobody,
what's work with those type of people?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Life's too short, by the way.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You set a bar about that too, because stepping out
of business and going into relationships.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You know, Rich Paul came from a really rough background.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
His mom was addicted to drugs, Like, he had to
hustle from a very very young age and every spectrum
of life. And Angie actually said a bar and was like,
the wrong people can ruin your life depending on the
circle that but it's.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Also not a groundbreaking thought, yes, but but it is
groundbreaking if you if you really use, if you really
are mindful about the decisions you make, because sometimes you
just get into friendship. You get into relationship because it's convenient,
because somebody's cool, somebody's funny, somebody makes it squeeze their
way into your life. Like, but if you are always
(07:01):
aware and you make conscious decisions about the people in
your life, that's how you fix That's how you fix that,
that's how you change it. Because yes, of course, bad
people could make you a bad life, literally ruin your life.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, but we.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Don't always consciously make decisions about the people that we
spend the most time with, even in work, in relationships,
in friendships. You know, even as much as crazy as
it sounds, but like your neighbors, Like you move into
a house, you buy your first home, you don't research
who's on the block. Yeah, now you're dealing with a
(07:33):
whole block full of neighbors that could ruin your life
because they're crazy, because they're because whatever. It's just like,
making conscious decisions about the people in your life at
all times really could be the night and day difference
between a good life and a bad life, success and failure.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
It's true, you also got to have the willingness to
speak up and say something about not wanting them to
be around, because, like you.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Said, people will like squeeze their away in.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, that's only if you let them. Can't force. Yeah,
don't care, you can't forced.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
But like having to verbalize your boundaries. I guess it's
something new that I'm practicing. And it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
What do you do? Tell me what you do when
somebody is trying to get in your space and you're like,
You're like, well, you don't do anything yet.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I you go to them, do you ghosts or you like, oh,
I tried ghosting one person. It did not work. They
still hit me. So then I just was like up straight,
I just was blunt about it and said what, Yeah,
I really want to know what I said?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, you want to.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I don't really want to say pretty person's gonna know.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, but pretty much I told them like I don't
have the mental capacity to deal with you, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Have a lot going on in so many That was fair, though.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I was expecting a lot rougher. That's way more mature
than I ever am. Yeah, that was really Yeah, I'm
not as mature as you. You would think that I
am the grown one in the room that you think
I'm be the most mature. I don't go that far. Well,
then again, I just cut it off faster. I don't
even I don't if I see flags. I don't get
myself to a point where I owe anybody an explanation, so.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I will be I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
By the time I get to a point with you
that I owe you an explanation for not wanting you
to be around, I've probably already removed myself because I
saw something in you that I was not interested in.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
But you know, they felt you ghosting them, Like, it's
not ghosting.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's just a little arm a little elbow up, a.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Little, a little, it's just elbow up like, you know,
a little boys they call it a little, a little
just bad, you know, a.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Little back up. And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So what if they felt uncomfortable, it's not uncomfortable, it's
just they felt you maybe pull away. I don't know me,
and maybe it's not the right thing to do, but
I have always I will. You know me, you guys
know me. Yeah, I will let you know if you
are welcomed into my space, for sure. And I'm a
welcoming person, like I'm gracious and I like to talk
to people and meet people. But if you push me
(09:58):
too far to something that I'm comfortable with for whatever reason,
and I will make sure that a boundary is understood.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Was it always like that, though, or did you cultivate that?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I don't I could. I've been like that as as
long as I can remember.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh well, that's good.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I feel like it's a hard thing to cultivate because
what happens like for me, I don't get close to
a lot of people. But then if I do and
then you burn me bad, I never want to speak
to you ever again, and then I don't want to
speak to anybody new.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I feel like sometimes I.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Lose out on new people growing and also yes, new people,
but also deepening bonds because sometimes in my mind, I'm like, well,
if you don't go through something like a rough patch
in a row with somebody, are y'all really tight?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Like that's interesting because you guys are both capricorns. Sorry
I'm in astrology. But your January in your December, so
that might be a difference. But usually like signs handle
things the same usually, yeah, but you guys are on
different accords.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Not really.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
She's guarded too, just in a different way. She just
has uses different like tactics, Yeah, tactics I'm super guarded.
You know that different though, because I'm also a public personality. Yeah, so,
because I'm also very humble and grateful. I live very great.
I live great, you know, I'm just grateful every day.
So if someone that I don't know is showing me
(11:23):
a genuine love, I'm so grateful. So I'm open, treat
people open. It's not until somebody is intrusive or in
red flag or shows a red flag that this is
not something that I'm not comfortable, then I will the
arm will go up here.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know who else is guarded? Rich Paul?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yes, Yeah, by the way, he was, I'm going to
say this, he was, even even when we were talking.
There was a moment he told me that when he
said when I was asking him, because he went through
a tough childhood. His mother was a drug addict, his
father had a whole separate family, didn't live in the house,
and he said he wasn't angry at them at any point,
that he just became a hustle. He respected his father
(12:02):
a lot because he taught him a lot. He was
still very much in his life. He worked with him
at the store. He liked the way his father, you know,
carried his mother. He explained to the kids that mommy's sick.
So it gave rich a kind of sensibility about how
to feel about his mother, that it wasn't personal, so
he didn't. He says, he didn't have anger. It's really
(12:23):
hard for me to understand. Yeah, none at any point.
And then he said he doesn't ever complain about anything,
crazy because he said I had nobody to complain too.
So it does really make you understand his hustless spirit
because everything he had to he had to survive. He
had to find that from inside of himself. He didn't
(12:45):
have you know what I mean, He had to deep
inside figure out, Okay, what am I gonna do? How
am I going to manage this with it? And then
also now in his business, it makes sense that he
maneuvers that way, but to never complain, I don't know
if that's healthy.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Is that healthy?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Probably not, but I did like that one for him.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I guess maybe it is. I guess depends on your personality.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Maybe he doesn't outwardly complain to people like in business.
He won't be like, oh that really made me angry. Thing,
But I think he's definitely sitting with himself that's got
a shower.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Being honest, you have to.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
There's no person on earth I think can not zero
complaints at all. It's impossible.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I like that he shared about the two parent household
aspect and kind of being like the outcast, because literally,
probably a week before, I was having a similar conversation
with Ruben Vincent, who's an artist, and he was saying
how he grew up in a household like that and
he always felt conflicted because you know, he was like
(13:48):
the step child and no matter which side of the
family he went to, and he said that he wished
he knew somebody else who went through something similar. So
when I was listening to the podcast, I was like,
oh my gosh, I sent.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Rubin the book.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Immediately he was like, yo, thank you, Like I love this,
and yeah, he felt seen.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So I think I think him sharing his story is
definitely going to.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Help a lot of people. Oh this is one. I
got another one. I liked this part and we were
talking because the book is called Lucky Me. He talks
a lot about gambling. He gambled when he was a kid,
he gambles now. And then we talked about his first
big deal where he was gambling on somebody else's life.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Where I said, where this is going?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Where the client? Where? His client got offered this big
deal at a young age. His name is Bled, so
he calls him blood. He said, you know they offered
him this I think was seven million dollars a year
or whatever. He believed he should get a lot more,
so he said, no, we're not going to take it.
Turns out he winds up getting a lot more that
the gamble paid off. Right when I said to him,
you're gambling with somebody else's life, which I don't know
(14:47):
that I would have. I don't know how I would
manage that, Like would I be that brave to gamble
with somebody else's life? And his response I thought was amazing.
And he said, well, if you you make it about
the money, it's a gamble. If you make it about
your value, it's not a gamble because you're just not
settling for what's not your value. It's not you're not gambling,
(15:10):
you're just waiting for your value. You're not accepting something
that's not your value.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I know it's like it's still a gamble, of course,
but there's something about the notion of how you operate
based on your value. And it wasn't just a random
hail Mary gamble. He was saying that he surrounded himself
with amazing people that helped him to inform his decision making.
So it was an educated kind of gamble. So you know,
(15:37):
Richar's dope. He's super smart. I will be honest. The
conversation was way longer than the actual episode because it
was a live experience. You really did have to be there.
There was a lot that happened in the room that
was super special. People coming up, there were hugs, there
were pictures, questions, there were great questions off the mic.
He signed some books, He signed books. He was really cool.
(15:59):
He was super cool, And honestly, I loved seeing the
people in the room connecting with each other as well
and talking about some of the things, and it just,
I don't know, it felt it like a really amazing
room for connection and community. So hopefully we'll do more
of those, and I look forward to seeing you guys
at some of those live events because they are really special.
But I did want to share some of the highlights,
(16:19):
so we did put a I think thirty minutes, so
it's like a thirty minute version of the conversation up
on the YouTube page, so if you haven't had a
chance to check that out, you should. He's great, he's
super smart, he loves Adele. They have an easy relationship,
he says. He says, you know, a man got to
be ready. When a man's ready. He said, he used
to value you know, he used to think more was better,
(16:39):
and now I guess he's at a different, more evolved
stag his life. We talked about it a tiny bit
and yeah, he was great and so definitely worth checking out.
It's a short episode because I said, like I said,
it was a live event, but it was impactful and
meaningful and thank you to so much to everybody who
came out to join us at compound.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, and let us no, we're going to have more
of these live events, So let us know who you'd
like to see next word, and we'll see you at
the next one.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We will see you at the next one. And in
the meantime, you could check out the rich Pole episode
on Angey Martinez Irl on the wherever podcasts are heard,
or you can go to YouTube and watch it there.
Please subscribe, tell your friends and we will check you
out on the next episode. We're doing j Z next
(22:35):
ah thanks guys,
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