September 16, 2022 • 20 mins
Charlamagne Tha God debates the week's top stories with political commentator Angela Rye, Comedian Roy Wood Jr., and author Malcolm Gladwell.
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You're listening to Comedy Central. Thank you, Trevor. I'm sorry
your queen died. Now. Look, it's been a hell of
a week. Okay, there's a scandal brewing in the world
of high stakes chess with a player being accused of
getting moves electronically signal to him through the use of
vibrating anal beachs. I can't make this ship up. I
(00:22):
don't know whether the yell checkmate are a queen. No,
let's get it. Hey, welcome to Hell of a Week.
(00:48):
Please say hello to our panel. He's one of the
world's most famous khaki colored intellectuals. In this podcast, Revisionist
History is backstept Timber fifteen Malcolm glad Well. He's a comedian,
a daily show correspondent, and all around bad motherfucker. Roy
Would Jr. Right, And she's an advocate and political analyst
(01:10):
and also a bad motherfucker. Angelias Hell and we got
the O G Fat Joe stopping by later in the show.
It has been a hell of a week. King Starr,
who prosecuted Bill Clinton for the Monica Lewinsky scandal, has
died at the age of seventy six. Yes, and Louis flowers.
The family has asked that you leave a donation on
the blue dress of your choice. What But here's what
(01:36):
I want to talk about. The night topping one last Thursday,
after seventy years on the throne, Queen Elizabeth of England died.
Y'all don't really care and the nation lined up the
show's brief. But not everyone was so sad. Irish sports
fans danced with Joy and Argentine anchorman Pop Champagne on
air and Black Twitter, who are known to stiffe with
(01:58):
air feelings. They went all in, like Carnegie Mellon University
professor uju Anya, who tweeted, I heard the chief monarch
of a thieving, raping, genocidal empire is finally dying. May
her pain be extruciating. Clearly she's a fan, okay uh,
I personally don't see why anyone cares about a monarch
(02:19):
in two just ain't frozen or not to mention, the
royal family has a lot to answer for when it
comes to the slave trade. Yeah, so I want to
ask the panel Malcolm, the start with you, why do
we care so much about the royal family in America?
If you want me to disc toc Queen you've come
to the wrong place. I've I'm a Commonwealth, I'm born
and bred in a come. My mom, my ninety one
(02:41):
year old Jamaican mom, was very, very sad when the
Queen died. Queen represented something to us. You know, she's
a she was a woman of extraordinary grace and dignity,
and in a world that needs a lot of a
lot more role models of grace and dignity. And you know,
there's there are some things that are country did that
um are unspeakable, but that doesn't set England aside from
(03:03):
different from any other country in the world. Before her first,
I want to start by saying, I know you know,
I adore you, I adore your books. I could not
disagree with you more on this, And I think the
issue here is there are people who have power that
is largely symbolic. She is certainly one of them, but
we should not ignore the power of that symbolism. I
(03:26):
also think it's important for us to understand that in
her role of symbolic power, they colonized. British colonized thirty
percent of Africa. So even when we talk about your
mother who adored the Queen, we have to understand black
people's infatuation with systems of power that have also abused.
You cannot do every bad deed done by Great Britain.
(03:48):
One time she spoke out against them. She speak out
against the injustice that she didn't cause. Anyway, if you
the new super eyes of a company that's been doing stuff,
isn't it your job as new supervisor to undo some
of the fun stuff? And I got respect, don't ignore
(04:15):
them talk about she's not the supervisor, she's never any power.
She just she cuts ribbons. And why do we call
it a queen if she ain't got noding about? Basically,
she's there to get tourists to come to England, y'all
just get a mascot. Wasn't like I don't like to
speak a little bit either, So I'll just let the
queen rest in peace. The only queens I recognize the
(04:37):
Latifa Aretha and Billy Porter. Okay, comic to for much.
Republican governors have sent bus loads of illegal immigrants to
sanctuary cities like New York, d C. And Chicago, with
the message of if you like them so much, they're yours. Okay, Well,
just in time for Hispanic heritage Mom Florida Governor Ron
de Santis up the game by sending two plain folds
(04:59):
of immigrants to the East Coast elite's favorite vacation Island
Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. I personally think it's genius, but I
wish that governor is like Ron De Santis and Greg
Abbott would give Democratic governors and mayors more of the
heads up, because then that would expose the hypocrisy of
the Democrats, which is they don't want immigrants here either.
(05:20):
What say you, Panel Angela Ry? First of all, um,
I want to just dig deeper into the fact that
these folks who are priding themselves on sending not just
bus loads but also now planeloads of immigrants to um
immigrants to country or to states that are have not
and are not expecting them. It doesn't matter when you
(05:44):
haven't talked to these folks about what your plans are
and you're dropping it. It is a political game for them.
And how are you gonna like tout the Bible. You're
the like Bible beating Christian governors. I'm just curious about
what kind of Christianity their practice. You want to talk
about Democrats hypocrisy, I want to call the Republicans. I'm
bluff too. What do you think about it? I'm with Angela.
(06:05):
This is now you with Angela. Fact we have more
in common. I'm not a feeling, you know, we're How
are we in a situation or a country when we're
treating people who want to come here, who think highly
enough of America that they want to they want to
risk their lives to come here, and we're treating them like,
(06:27):
you know, props in some kind of political stunt. What
I hate is the fact that a lot of these
a lot of these immigrants are being sent to these cities,
and these are the same cities that ship out their
homeless people to the outside county. So a lot of
these Democratic cities that are, oh, we love people, and
we love people a homeless make it away or something like,
they they deliberately hide people already. So a lot of
(06:50):
these Democrats that are complaining about the Republicans are running
something similar within their own within their own counties. Wouldn't
y'all rather have them be shipped to Sanksuary cities at
the polls in the states they don't want him anyway, though.
I just I think that we have got to have
some humanity and compassion about this conversation. What we know
is that policy wise, the country has failed immigration for
(07:14):
a very long time. Immigration reform proposals don't do enough.
I also think that in the backdrop of what's happened
in Ukraine and the billions of dollars that this country
is sent to Ukraine, why can't we use those same
resources to figure out what to do with immigrant populations here.
The difference is that most of them are of a
browner hue, And the truth is that Rhonda Santists, uh,
(07:35):
Greg Abbott and others are terrified about what happens when
there is a browning of their states. I'm clear. I'm
very clear about that. So I don't think that, yeah,
knowing what we know about Texas, if you're giving people
a free trip out of Texas, got some come up. Yeah.
I think the questions brought her. One of the best
(07:55):
books I've had this name is a book called one
Billion Americans, which asked the question how many Americans do
we want? Right book at this country, and he argues
very the guy made Glaciers wrote it argues very persuasively
that this country would work really well with a billion people. Well,
we're at three eighty million, so we got what six hundred?
(08:17):
So I think we should we should be welcoming people,
We should be opening the borders. I I don't understand
why people are so upset about, right, Rich it's Charlottegne
you that's a useful Yes, that would be very and
I'm sure you'll do your part. But everybody got to fury.
(08:37):
By the way, that's still sending busses where immigrants here
in New York. I think that's the post to scare
in New Yorkers. Okay, bustones Field with immigrants in New
York CITYO just called busses. Okay. Now, when we come back,
my panel is going to predict the end of democracy
as we know it. Plus Patie was in the building.
Hell of a wee can it welcome back to Hell
(09:08):
of a week? What's the point of having a brilliant
panel like this if I can't use the super brains
to look into the future. So it's time for a
game of North You're dumbass. Now, if you've been paying attention,
then you know there's one thing Democrats and Republicans agree on,
and that is that American democracy as we know it
(09:30):
is about to be over. Okay, why are we the
people aren't understanding the urgency at the moment. I don't know,
but I'm gonna ask some questions. Okay, whoever gets you
right not only gets my respect, they also get a
treat and y L where you got? Okay? Today we
have gore make cupcakes from Beatcake, New York. It is
a bakery out in Brooklyn and it's rented operated by
(09:50):
black women. Okay, okay, okay, and hold on, we got
a salute Queen Nila too. She's nominated for a BT
Award for Best People. Okay, but vot vote for her
BT dot com and can I shout out BT? On
Comedy Central? Question one? Is this the most important mid
term election in American history? The answers are A yes,
(10:15):
B no. See they say every election is the most
important election in American history. R D. I don't care
about any of this. I just want to talk about
raj go Angela, right, you got a tell me Angelo
y A, because every election where we can participate is
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the most important one. Okay, that's black. Mr Gladwell, you
said no? Why? I don't know. I can think of
fun top of my head ten other elections where they
were bigger stakes sixty eight, nineteen sixty four. I mean,
I think we sometimes forget that American history is pretty
dark place, and there are a lot of times worse
(10:59):
than this. The point is made, the point of this
you said yes, because every election they keep tightening the
vices of injustice on us. As you look, every two
years they put up another wall, or another hurdle, or
another juryman. Do you can't even bring water to somebody
(11:19):
that's waiting in line? I can't bring your snack? My
answer is we're fucked. Okay, But I do agree with
Mr Gladwell's answer because I think the question was too broad.
I should have said, in our lifetime, the pol history
same democracy survives this election. Are we going to have
the same conversation in two years for the presidential election?
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If every election is maybe the last election, doesn't that
mean democracy is already over? The answers are a hell yes,
be hell double yes, or c hell triple yes. Let's go.
I'm the only optim I'm mildly optimistic. I'm the only
(12:04):
mildly optimistic angel. When you say hell, triple yes, you
know what's so amazing about our letter formation though, is
this actually looks like the Congressional Black Caucus? Maybe the answer.
So I just want to shout out my former bosses
who are the conscious of the Congress and who hold
it down for us and don't always get the respect
they deserve. Some of y'all know Queen Maxine. When folks
(12:25):
are not looking, she's working, she's protecting our interests in
so many of them continue to do that. So I
want to be careful about how we continue to tent
the Democratic Party, which is a very big tent, and
there are some people in there who are fighting for
us when we're looking and when we're not. Well, you say,
be hell double yes, why are you optimistic? Well, I'm
only optimistic now because I feel like i'm the things
(12:47):
were so much worse two generations ago. If you don't
think it was worse than nine eight until they changed
that it is now, then I don't. I think you don't.
You don't understand history. I don't saying what's going on
right now is great. I'm just saying it was dark.
Let see, Okay, Yeah, Because we live in a time
(13:08):
where the politicians are getting slick and knowing how to
pray on fears of voters politics. Yeah, because it's a
it's an opportunity now over the next two years to
really manipulate the voting pool. And once you look up
and if you get Trump back, or you get anybody
that's co signing with that, man, I just think it's
(13:28):
a it's a it's a recipe for something terrible. Hey man,
my answer is I'm black. Tell me when democracy starts.
Let's see some cupcakes. Okay. I'd like to thank Malcolm,
Angela and Roy for playing and the sweet sweet people
at Bcake New York for making up fat and happy.
Stay tuned for my interview with Fat Joe, who probably
wants a cupcake. There you go, Welcome back to hell
(14:01):
of a week's down. My next guest is a straight
up legend, all right. He's a hip hop icon, a
philanthropis an entrepreneur, and at the end of the month
you can catch him hosting the Hip Hop Awards on
B and T. Please walcome, Fat Joe. I'm glad to
have you here this week. O gee, know we just
had a major tragedy earlier in the week with pnb Rock.
(14:24):
Rest in peace to him. You happen to be an
expert in the hip hop and hood at the kitchen. Okay, So,
so most rappers consider themselves real when they stay in
the hood after achieving a certain level of success. Is
that real or is it just dangerous? I think it's real,
and it's also real dangerous. And so like me, I
(14:45):
have businesses in the community. We built schools in our
stores and the But then Fat Joe's dumb if he
gets killed in front of one of his stores because
he's still in the hood and he ain't got to
be in the hood, right, And oh, the young brother
with supporting black owned businesses going to the Roscoats chicken
with his wife and his kid, and so we get
(15:07):
all these deflections of oh, but his wife posted the chicken. Oh,
he's not supposed to wear Jerry, how about we not
supposed to kill each other. What you're saying is absolutely true,
and that's how it should be. But that's not the
way it is. No, we shouldn't kill each other. And
so what should happen is I used to stick people up.
(15:28):
I used to rob people. Now I'm being honest, I'm
not trying to front of y'all. I'm not against him
robbing them called him roblem. Why you gotta kill him?
Why you gotta kill him? And that's what bothers me.
And not only destroy that family, this ain't nothing to
laugh about, y'all. Not only destroy that family, but what
(15:52):
about the other families that are sitting in roscoats and
they see somebody get their blames blown out in front
of them. You're destroyed the old village with one shot.
So my thing is, when you go to l A,
they got a rule called check in them, right, Why
don't the checkings checking ahead of time? You know, when
you go in your hotel, your keys already ready. Why
don't the o g s tell them, hey, rob them,
(16:13):
don't kill him, don't kill him? And why do we
hate us? Right? Why are we not happy about people
that come from where we come from, being successful? Why
we want to kill them? So so, in your opinion,
what's the best way for rappers to still stay in
the hood after becoming successful without getting home? Right now,
you need security, the bottom line, and legit security, not
(16:37):
your man the whole of hammer. So you be on
seeing that rappers are the endangered species. We're getting hit
up by the police, hit up by the Feds, and
we're getting hit up by our own for being in
our hood trying to show love. So it's so dangerous
to be a rapper these days. It's the hardest job
(16:58):
out there right now. It's trying with you in jail
or these your own people trying to kill you. And
so what happens is people get mad at themselves. They
get mad that they didn't accomplish stuff in life. They
look at themselves they say, damn, I'm forty years old,
fifty years old, I ain't got nothing. Here comes this
brother who got a beautiful wife, a beautiful family. He's
(17:19):
doing good for himself. He's talented. I might as well
just kill him. It's disgusting this. This is O. G.
Fajel having this conversation because young Joe. Most rappers used
to clown other rappers for having security back in the day.
Oh no, no, no, no, Joe. You know, my management
(17:39):
is Rock Nation, And I was having a conversation with
all brother Brian, who manages me and manages the locks.
He said, well, the locks they have. Their whole thing
is no security. They put out mixtapes. It's trying to
do the remix and get puff Daddy on it and
go get yourself sec right. Absolutely. Do you think it
was easier to, like, you know, in the hood back
(18:00):
in the day when you were coming up without social
media and technology because people know you're every move though.
You want to know, what's the saddest part about it
is they kill Big Eil in this block, they kill
jam Master Jay, and this block they kill Nipsey Hustle
trying to do something good for this hood. Nine times
that to attend, they kill you in your own neighborhood
(18:22):
because they're jealous of you. And we gotta stop being jealous,
especially brothers who do what we accused people not doing.
So what happens is these artists they become successful and
they run away from the hood and we never see
him again. Now they might be the smart ones, because
now the ones that staying there and invest in their
community and support black owned businesses and Latino owned businesses,
(18:45):
they getting killed there. Let me tell you about blacks
and Latinos. There's no difference with blacks and Latinos. You
see the same messed up schools, the same hospitals. The
biggest power is people power, and if you come together
out separating the two, you will see that the power
in numbers will get us exactly what we need in
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the hood. Don't fight your brothers and your sisters. We
won no matter how you look at this thing. Joe
cracks from mayor give it up from side Joe and
check them out. Hosting the Hippop Awards on be a
team on Step Timber thirty year. Thanks for coming through, Joe.
When we come back more Hell of a Week. Hey,
(19:38):
welcome back to Hell of a Week. Now, before we go,
let's talk about cousins and namely, if it's okay to
fuck them. Now. I'm from the country Monks Corner, South Carolina,
to be exact, so I know some cousin fuckers, all right.
Some people feel it is perfectly acceptable to have sex
with cousins as long as they aren't your cousin cousins, okay,
and Dr oz seems to feel the same way, all right,
(20:00):
he said, that's a fact. An old clip just resurfaced
from a show you might be familiar with called The
Breakfast Club, where the Good Doctor says, if you're more
than the first cousin a way, it's not a big problem.
I guess. Dr oz Is version of tender is ancestry
dot Com all right. And I know some of you
are sitting on the couch with your cousins right now,
and ship just got very uncomfortable our sexy okay. And
(20:26):
I know what you're thinking. Dr Os sounds really mentally deficient. Okay,
And that's exactly what your baby is gonna be if
you impregnate your cousin. All right, I'll go by the
name of Charlemagne to God. It's been a hell of
a week. Come back next Thursday. Now, stay tuned so
we run to the office. So be sure to listen
(20:50):
to Hell of a Week with Charlemagne to God wherever
you get your podcast. This has been a Comedy Central podcast.
You're listening to Comedy Central. Thank you, Trevor. I'm sorry
your queen died. Now. Look, it's been a hell of
a week. Okay, there's a scandal brewing in the world
of high stakes chess with a player being accused of
getting moves electronically signal to him through the use of
vibrating anal beachs. I can't make this ship up. I
(00:22):
don't know whether the yell checkmate are a queen. No,
let's get it. Hey, welcome to Hell of a Week.
(00:48):
Please say hello to our panel. He's one of the
world's most famous khaki colored intellectuals. In this podcast, Revisionist
History is backstept Timber fifteen Malcolm glad Well. He's a comedian,
a daily show correspondent, and all around bad motherfucker. Roy
Would Jr. Right, And she's an advocate and political analyst
(01:10):
and also a bad motherfucker. Angelias Hell and we got
the O G Fat Joe stopping by later in the show.
It has been a hell of a week. King Starr,
who prosecuted Bill Clinton for the Monica Lewinsky scandal, has
died at the age of seventy six. Yes, and Louis flowers.
The family has asked that you leave a donation on
the blue dress of your choice. What But here's what
(01:36):
I want to talk about. The night topping one last Thursday,
after seventy years on the throne, Queen Elizabeth of England died.
Y'all don't really care and the nation lined up the
show's brief. But not everyone was so sad. Irish sports
fans danced with Joy and Argentine anchorman Pop Champagne on
air and Black Twitter, who are known to stiffe with
(01:58):
air feelings. They went all in, like Carnegie Mellon University
professor uju Anya, who tweeted, I heard the chief monarch
of a thieving, raping, genocidal empire is finally dying. May
her pain be extruciating. Clearly she's a fan, okay uh,
I personally don't see why anyone cares about a monarch
(02:19):
in two just ain't frozen or not to mention, the
royal family has a lot to answer for when it
comes to the slave trade. Yeah, so I want to
ask the panel Malcolm, the start with you, why do
we care so much about the royal family in America?
If you want me to disc toc Queen you've come
to the wrong place. I've I'm a Commonwealth, I'm born
and bred in a come. My mom, my ninety one
(02:41):
year old Jamaican mom, was very, very sad when the
Queen died. Queen represented something to us. You know, she's
a she was a woman of extraordinary grace and dignity,
and in a world that needs a lot of a
lot more role models of grace and dignity. And you know,
there's there are some things that are country did that
um are unspeakable, but that doesn't set England aside from
(03:03):
different from any other country in the world. Before her first,
I want to start by saying, I know you know,
I adore you, I adore your books. I could not
disagree with you more on this, And I think the
issue here is there are people who have power that
is largely symbolic. She is certainly one of them, but
we should not ignore the power of that symbolism. I
(03:26):
also think it's important for us to understand that in
her role of symbolic power, they colonized. British colonized thirty
percent of Africa. So even when we talk about your
mother who adored the Queen, we have to understand black
people's infatuation with systems of power that have also abused.
You cannot do every bad deed done by Great Britain.
(03:48):
One time she spoke out against them. She speak out
against the injustice that she didn't cause. Anyway, if you
the new super eyes of a company that's been doing stuff,
isn't it your job as new supervisor to undo some
of the fun stuff? And I got respect, don't ignore
(04:15):
them talk about she's not the supervisor, she's never any power.
She just she cuts ribbons. And why do we call
it a queen if she ain't got noding about? Basically,
she's there to get tourists to come to England, y'all
just get a mascot. Wasn't like I don't like to
speak a little bit either, So I'll just let the
queen rest in peace. The only queens I recognize the
(04:37):
Latifa Aretha and Billy Porter. Okay, comic to for much.
Republican governors have sent bus loads of illegal immigrants to
sanctuary cities like New York, d C. And Chicago, with
the message of if you like them so much, they're yours. Okay, Well,
just in time for Hispanic heritage Mom Florida Governor Ron
de Santis up the game by sending two plain folds
(04:59):
of immigrants to the East Coast elite's favorite vacation Island
Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. I personally think it's genius, but I
wish that governor is like Ron De Santis and Greg
Abbott would give Democratic governors and mayors more of the
heads up, because then that would expose the hypocrisy of
the Democrats, which is they don't want immigrants here either.
(05:20):
What say you, Panel Angela Ry? First of all, um,
I want to just dig deeper into the fact that
these folks who are priding themselves on sending not just
bus loads but also now planeloads of immigrants to um
immigrants to country or to states that are have not
and are not expecting them. It doesn't matter when you
(05:44):
haven't talked to these folks about what your plans are
and you're dropping it. It is a political game for them.
And how are you gonna like tout the Bible. You're
the like Bible beating Christian governors. I'm just curious about
what kind of Christianity their practice. You want to talk
about Democrats hypocrisy, I want to call the Republicans. I'm
bluff too. What do you think about it? I'm with Angela.
(06:05):
This is now you with Angela. Fact we have more
in common. I'm not a feeling, you know, we're How
are we in a situation or a country when we're
treating people who want to come here, who think highly
enough of America that they want to they want to
risk their lives to come here, and we're treating them like,
(06:27):
you know, props in some kind of political stunt. What
I hate is the fact that a lot of these
a lot of these immigrants are being sent to these cities,
and these are the same cities that ship out their
homeless people to the outside county. So a lot of
these Democratic cities that are, oh, we love people, and
we love people a homeless make it away or something like,
they they deliberately hide people already. So a lot of
(06:50):
these Democrats that are complaining about the Republicans are running
something similar within their own within their own counties. Wouldn't
y'all rather have them be shipped to Sanksuary cities at
the polls in the states they don't want him anyway, though.
I just I think that we have got to have
some humanity and compassion about this conversation. What we know
is that policy wise, the country has failed immigration for
(07:14):
a very long time. Immigration reform proposals don't do enough.
I also think that in the backdrop of what's happened
in Ukraine and the billions of dollars that this country
is sent to Ukraine, why can't we use those same
resources to figure out what to do with immigrant populations here.
The difference is that most of them are of a
browner hue, And the truth is that Rhonda Santists, uh,
(07:35):
Greg Abbott and others are terrified about what happens when
there is a browning of their states. I'm clear. I'm
very clear about that. So I don't think that, yeah,
knowing what we know about Texas, if you're giving people
a free trip out of Texas, got some come up. Yeah.
I think the questions brought her. One of the best
(07:55):
books I've had this name is a book called one
Billion Americans, which asked the question how many Americans do
we want? Right book at this country, and he argues
very the guy made Glaciers wrote it argues very persuasively
that this country would work really well with a billion people. Well,
we're at three eighty million, so we got what six hundred?
(08:17):
So I think we should we should be welcoming people,
We should be opening the borders. I I don't understand
why people are so upset about, right, Rich it's Charlottegne
you that's a useful Yes, that would be very and
I'm sure you'll do your part. But everybody got to fury.
(08:37):
By the way, that's still sending busses where immigrants here
in New York. I think that's the post to scare
in New Yorkers. Okay, bustones Field with immigrants in New
York CITYO just called busses. Okay. Now, when we come back,
my panel is going to predict the end of democracy
as we know it. Plus Patie was in the building.
Hell of a wee can it welcome back to Hell
(09:08):
of a week? What's the point of having a brilliant
panel like this if I can't use the super brains
to look into the future. So it's time for a
game of North You're dumbass. Now, if you've been paying attention,
then you know there's one thing Democrats and Republicans agree on,
and that is that American democracy as we know it
(09:30):
is about to be over. Okay, why are we the
people aren't understanding the urgency at the moment. I don't know,
but I'm gonna ask some questions. Okay, whoever gets you
right not only gets my respect, they also get a
treat and y L where you got? Okay? Today we
have gore make cupcakes from Beatcake, New York. It is
a bakery out in Brooklyn and it's rented operated by
(09:50):
black women. Okay, okay, okay, and hold on, we got
a salute Queen Nila too. She's nominated for a BT
Award for Best People. Okay, but vot vote for her
BT dot com and can I shout out BT? On
Comedy Central? Question one? Is this the most important mid
term election in American history? The answers are A yes,
(10:15):
B no. See they say every election is the most
important election in American history. R D. I don't care
about any of this. I just want to talk about
raj go Angela, right, you got a tell me Angelo
y A, because every election where we can participate is
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the most important one. Okay, that's black. Mr Gladwell, you
said no? Why? I don't know. I can think of
fun top of my head ten other elections where they
were bigger stakes sixty eight, nineteen sixty four. I mean,
I think we sometimes forget that American history is pretty
dark place, and there are a lot of times worse
(10:59):
than this. The point is made, the point of this
you said yes, because every election they keep tightening the
vices of injustice on us. As you look, every two
years they put up another wall, or another hurdle, or
another juryman. Do you can't even bring water to somebody
(11:19):
that's waiting in line? I can't bring your snack? My
answer is we're fucked. Okay, But I do agree with
Mr Gladwell's answer because I think the question was too broad.
I should have said, in our lifetime, the pol history
same democracy survives this election. Are we going to have
the same conversation in two years for the presidential election?
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If every election is maybe the last election, doesn't that
mean democracy is already over? The answers are a hell yes,
be hell double yes, or c hell triple yes. Let's go.
I'm the only optim I'm mildly optimistic. I'm the only
(12:04):
mildly optimistic angel. When you say hell, triple yes, you
know what's so amazing about our letter formation though, is
this actually looks like the Congressional Black Caucus? Maybe the answer.
So I just want to shout out my former bosses
who are the conscious of the Congress and who hold
it down for us and don't always get the respect
they deserve. Some of y'all know Queen Maxine. When folks
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are not looking, she's working, she's protecting our interests in
so many of them continue to do that. So I
want to be careful about how we continue to tent
the Democratic Party, which is a very big tent, and
there are some people in there who are fighting for
us when we're looking and when we're not. Well, you say,
be hell double yes, why are you optimistic? Well, I'm
only optimistic now because I feel like i'm the things
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were so much worse two generations ago. If you don't
think it was worse than nine eight until they changed
that it is now, then I don't. I think you don't.
You don't understand history. I don't saying what's going on
right now is great. I'm just saying it was dark.
Let see, Okay, Yeah, Because we live in a time
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where the politicians are getting slick and knowing how to
pray on fears of voters politics. Yeah, because it's a
it's an opportunity now over the next two years to
really manipulate the voting pool. And once you look up
and if you get Trump back, or you get anybody
that's co signing with that, man, I just think it's
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a it's a it's a recipe for something terrible. Hey man,
my answer is I'm black. Tell me when democracy starts.
Let's see some cupcakes. Okay. I'd like to thank Malcolm,
Angela and Roy for playing and the sweet sweet people
at Bcake New York for making up fat and happy.
Stay tuned for my interview with Fat Joe, who probably
wants a cupcake. There you go, Welcome back to hell
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of a week's down. My next guest is a straight
up legend, all right. He's a hip hop icon, a
philanthropis an entrepreneur, and at the end of the month
you can catch him hosting the Hip Hop Awards on
B and T. Please walcome, Fat Joe. I'm glad to
have you here this week. O gee, know we just
had a major tragedy earlier in the week with pnb Rock.
(14:24):
Rest in peace to him. You happen to be an
expert in the hip hop and hood at the kitchen. Okay, So,
so most rappers consider themselves real when they stay in
the hood after achieving a certain level of success. Is
that real or is it just dangerous? I think it's real,
and it's also real dangerous. And so like me, I
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have businesses in the community. We built schools in our
stores and the But then Fat Joe's dumb if he
gets killed in front of one of his stores because
he's still in the hood and he ain't got to
be in the hood, right, And oh, the young brother
with supporting black owned businesses going to the Roscoats chicken
with his wife and his kid, and so we get
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all these deflections of oh, but his wife posted the chicken. Oh,
he's not supposed to wear Jerry, how about we not
supposed to kill each other. What you're saying is absolutely true,
and that's how it should be. But that's not the
way it is. No, we shouldn't kill each other. And
so what should happen is I used to stick people up.
(15:28):
I used to rob people. Now I'm being honest, I'm
not trying to front of y'all. I'm not against him
robbing them called him roblem. Why you gotta kill him?
Why you gotta kill him? And that's what bothers me.
And not only destroy that family, this ain't nothing to
laugh about, y'all. Not only destroy that family, but what
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about the other families that are sitting in roscoats and
they see somebody get their blames blown out in front
of them. You're destroyed the old village with one shot.
So my thing is, when you go to l A,
they got a rule called check in them, right, Why
don't the checkings checking ahead of time? You know, when
you go in your hotel, your keys already ready. Why
don't the o g s tell them, hey, rob them,
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don't kill him, don't kill him? And why do we
hate us? Right? Why are we not happy about people
that come from where we come from, being successful? Why
we want to kill them? So so, in your opinion,
what's the best way for rappers to still stay in
the hood after becoming successful without getting home? Right now,
you need security, the bottom line, and legit security, not
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your man the whole of hammer. So you be on
seeing that rappers are the endangered species. We're getting hit
up by the police, hit up by the Feds, and
we're getting hit up by our own for being in
our hood trying to show love. So it's so dangerous
to be a rapper these days. It's the hardest job
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out there right now. It's trying with you in jail
or these your own people trying to kill you. And
so what happens is people get mad at themselves. They
get mad that they didn't accomplish stuff in life. They
look at themselves they say, damn, I'm forty years old,
fifty years old, I ain't got nothing. Here comes this
brother who got a beautiful wife, a beautiful family. He's
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doing good for himself. He's talented. I might as well
just kill him. It's disgusting this. This is O. G.
Fajel having this conversation because young Joe. Most rappers used
to clown other rappers for having security back in the day.
Oh no, no, no, no, Joe. You know, my management
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is Rock Nation, And I was having a conversation with
all brother Brian, who manages me and manages the locks.
He said, well, the locks they have. Their whole thing
is no security. They put out mixtapes. It's trying to
do the remix and get puff Daddy on it and
go get yourself sec right. Absolutely. Do you think it
was easier to, like, you know, in the hood back
(18:00):
in the day when you were coming up without social
media and technology because people know you're every move though.
You want to know, what's the saddest part about it
is they kill Big Eil in this block, they kill
jam Master Jay, and this block they kill Nipsey Hustle
trying to do something good for this hood. Nine times
that to attend, they kill you in your own neighborhood
(18:22):
because they're jealous of you. And we gotta stop being jealous,
especially brothers who do what we accused people not doing.
So what happens is these artists they become successful and
they run away from the hood and we never see
him again. Now they might be the smart ones, because
now the ones that staying there and invest in their
community and support black owned businesses and Latino owned businesses,
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they getting killed there. Let me tell you about blacks
and Latinos. There's no difference with blacks and Latinos. You
see the same messed up schools, the same hospitals. The
biggest power is people power, and if you come together
out separating the two, you will see that the power
in numbers will get us exactly what we need in
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the hood. Don't fight your brothers and your sisters. We
won no matter how you look at this thing. Joe
cracks from mayor give it up from side Joe and
check them out. Hosting the Hippop Awards on be a
team on Step Timber thirty year. Thanks for coming through, Joe.
When we come back more Hell of a Week. Hey,
(19:38):
welcome back to Hell of a Week. Now, before we go,
let's talk about cousins and namely, if it's okay to
fuck them. Now. I'm from the country Monks Corner, South Carolina,
to be exact, so I know some cousin fuckers, all right.
Some people feel it is perfectly acceptable to have sex
with cousins as long as they aren't your cousin cousins, okay,
and Dr oz seems to feel the same way, all right,
(20:00):
he said, that's a fact. An old clip just resurfaced
from a show you might be familiar with called The
Breakfast Club, where the Good Doctor says, if you're more
than the first cousin a way, it's not a big problem.
I guess. Dr oz Is version of tender is ancestry
dot Com all right. And I know some of you
are sitting on the couch with your cousins right now,
and ship just got very uncomfortable our sexy okay. And
(20:26):
I know what you're thinking. Dr Os sounds really mentally deficient. Okay,
And that's exactly what your baby is gonna be if
you impregnate your cousin. All right, I'll go by the
name of Charlemagne to God. It's been a hell of
a week. Come back next Thursday. Now, stay tuned so
we run to the office. So be sure to listen
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to Hell of a Week with Charlemagne to God wherever
you get your podcast. This has been a Comedy Central podcast.
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