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February 2, 2023 65 mins

Rookie of the year Olivia Kaiser is on the podcast today! She tells Tori and Aneesa all about working with Horacio, her relationship with Nelson and the dramatic and scary end to her incredible rookie season. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everyone. I'm Tory Deal and I'm Anissa Ferarra
and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast. Here we go,
baby back on the podcast. Did you like that you
know what? Tree stump? I'm not sure. Let's talk about
tree stump later. This episode is gonna get super spicy
because not only do we have Olivia on to talk

(00:22):
about everything that she went through, we also reveal our
screen names from when we were fourteen years old. But
before we get into that, let's discuss this episode. This
is an intense episode. I mean we went right into
the final right into it. It's one hundred hours. I
didn't think that you were going to roll your ankle immediately.
Well you know, I also didn't think that Jordan was

(00:42):
going to take Devin seriously when he was like, yeah,
just fuck it, just cut the course. Can we like
glows that information? I think that that needs to be
touched on, because yeah, there, before we start, tj said
there are arrows. So Jordan of course then asked late like,
before we're about to run on, do we have to
do we have to follow the arrows? And Devin's like, no,

(01:04):
you can create your own course, navigate your own course, yeah,
and I'm like, no, we fucking can't not thinking that
Jordan took that. Seriously, Jordan cuts across, thinking that we're
going to sprit in front of everyone, and I'm like,
this is one hundred hours. There's no point in really
getting the lead, and to be honest, we're not going
to keep it even if we got to add that's that.
Let's be serious, that is not happening. It wasn't. It

(01:26):
just wasn't going to happen unless at a checkpoint, right,
And that was the ankle that I broke. So it
was a mind fuck too because I was like, oh shit,
this this is the ankle that I've rehabbed, this is
the strong ankle. Yeah. I just never imagine like really
rolling it again, especially on because it was just like
pine cones and pine needles and grass and you really

(01:49):
couldn't see the terrain. So once I sprayed my ankle
literally thirty seconds in, I'm like, well, this is these
are the cards that I'm dealt and this is how
I'm going to finish this final. Do you think that
the hundred mile bike ride before the night before we
started the final had anything to do with it? No, Actually,
bikes are low impact. They have nothing. Now, okay, so

(02:12):
the bike the bike, and I think we can agree
to this. We were all working out in the yard, chilling,
have a good having a good Saturday morning. It was
a Saturday morning when TJ came through on his four
wheeler and was like, all right, everybody, were starting the
final right now, it's one hundred hours, like and then
to go into it, to get into those cars. Me
not learning how to drive stick shift immediately feeling pretty

(02:34):
shitty about that. I liked morale at a low. But
Devin didn't know how to drive it either. He figured
it out. We were going real slow. We were just
trying to eat up some of those hours at the final.
If you noticed, it was ninety eight hours by the
time we got to the base camp. Two of those
hours driving not bad. I mean we really were at

(02:55):
the base camp. They really were at a camp where
we knew that we were going to be camping out
for about four days. Yeah, well we didn't know. We
didn't know. We thought we were going. Well, I'm assuming
that we're going to be there for four Well, can
we also just touch on this which is not something
that I think is obvious from what we see in
the show, Olivia and Rossio, we each get two tents. Yeah,

(03:19):
we have to get time out. They finished their bike first,
one hundred miles done. Now they get to open up
their safe inside their box or whatever you wanna call it.
They have two tents. They decide to only set up
one of the tents because they want to make sure
that if they have to move location, they can easily
grab their stuff and go, which actually, credit to them

(03:40):
is pretty genius. But well, Additionally, Jordan said, Anisa, we're
going to sleep in the same tent for body heat.
And by the time he man splained how to put
the tent together, I was like, fuck, you man splained
it several times. I mean I could have used some
man splaining because I was shitting the bed and putting
that thing together. I mean, it wasn't by that time.

(04:03):
I was just trying to get it done, like I
didn't even care. Yeah, and Jordan's like, no, this is
how you actually do it. I was like I'm doing oh, okay, okay,
I see what you're saying. I mean it's exhausting, but anyway,
all right, so we sleep. We all get our sleep.
The bike ride means nothing. You roll your ankle. Now
we're onto these bolas, and literally immediately it's you hurting

(04:24):
your ankle, Olivia hurting her finger, and fish guts like
talk about a brutal intro. Then I cut my finger
on that too, like sliced it open, because literally I
was throwing the same way Olivia was. Yeah it worked though,
because we got there after you guys, and we still
left before two teams shout out to the Dirty thirty final,

(04:45):
where I have thrown a bowla before and knew to
throw it from the middle. Oh, I'm just saying, I
hurt my finger. You heard your finger, Olivia heard her finger.
I was bleeding all over my ball. I didn't even care.
I'm like, Jordan's like, fuck it, let's I just remember
people passing mugs around and there was like blood on
the mug, and I'm like that that was all sanitary. Yeah,

(05:09):
I know, she really, I mean, but was still still
going getting after it. And I realized when we got
to the tires how dirty they were because I had
all that black shit like on my neck, it was
on our faces. Yeah, it was in my cut. I'm like,
I'm losing a finger after this, like, I don't think
people understand how long the tire thing was. It felt
never ending. Yeah, there were a lot of people that

(05:29):
went home to only have eight of us there, so
people that went home and came back right, right, So
what were there like sixteen eliminations? Right? So it was
eight runs because you could only carry one eight runs
back and forth and one Yeah, so but eight total
because you split it between you and your partner, right,
so you're doing that run eight times. So but the

(05:51):
thing about that run is like it's almost the whole
thing itself was like a mile, so you basically did
eight miles right there. It was so long, and Jordan
was like, run to the tree, then stop, then run
to the bridge, then stop. Then like we were breaking
it up after a while because I'm like Jordan, you
know what, like the ankle hurts, like shit, we have

(06:13):
to do something though, Like I wanted to just finish already,
and I was like just gonna have to fucking hobble
on this thing. But what was it? Like? You know,
obviously Jordan is like top tier competitor, Like this person
is not just a I go outside and run. He
competes in like wants to compete in ultra marathons does Yeah,
the top athletics, he is like a different breed. He's

(06:35):
better than any of the guys I've ever seen compete
on the challenge of my life, in my opinion, the
most athletic in terms of endurance. So yeah, I mean,
maybe maybe maybe Rossio could keep up with him. I can.
I can go forever too, And I think that that's
where we like kind of get pull from each other,
like there's no quitting, but he can just do it faster,

(06:58):
you know what I mean. And I think it still
like he's good at like shifty shit and like with
the car jumping and all that other stuff, he's a
little bit more coordinated in that sense, you know, and
like whatever. But it was just a matter of like
it wasn't going to be my ankle that that broke me.
It was going to be him and how he talked
to me that that broke my spirits. So watching it

(07:20):
back what it is, it was so difficult. Yeah, I
felt like even though I busted my ass, I still
wasn't getting like I felt so uplifted by these things
that I had conquered and and you know what I
had been through I'm like, I'm having a fucking comeback season.
This is great. I'm in this final with somebody you
know who pushes me. And then it's like i rolled

(07:43):
my ankle and then I'm like, I'm still going to
go through this. But it just like it broke me emotionally.
I was crying during the final a lot, and but
there's this other thing where it's like, I'm not going
to quit because I'm also kind of spiteful right now.
I'm like, well, you you're gonna keep talking shit to
me while I'll show you. Yeah, Like so it became

(08:05):
anger too. So I was just dealing with pain emotions.
Like there was just so much going on, dude, And
from the start, like the final started out just absolutely intense,
like you running and having to do eight miles on
a bad angle and after you drinking fish guts right

(08:25):
like this is yeah, my fingers were fucking swollen. Everybody
smelled like whatever they vomited or you're the only person
who didn't smell like fish. Yeah, thank god, maybe Tay four,
but not day one. I don't know what you're talking about.
I mean, imagine we're gonna be here for four days.
I mean, are we getting new uniforms. Who knows, Probably not.

(08:46):
I have a feeling that's not happening. I can say
this though, like watching Bananas and Nannie, Like I love
their relationship. Yeah there he he cracks me the fuck up, dude,
Like he is so funny and I love how Yeah
She's like that's her annoying brother. God, I love them

(09:08):
so much. They're great to watch. It's definitely a fun
dynamic to watch. Yeah, and Rossio and Live right like
they are just such fighters. Rossio is just this incredible
athlete and Live is the Live run back and forth.
You could see in her face like she was giving
every single thing she had everything, she had everything. And
then you know, we get up to that checkpoint with
the slingshot, Devin and I lock it in really easily

(09:30):
because Devin is just a genius when it comes to accuracy,
and so obviously we win that and we get the
opportunity to sabotage somebody. Unfortunately, the sabotage is just way
more intense than I think anybody anticipated, like with everything
that happened with Olivia and Rossio when they come up,
and I mean, if we got to give the gold
star to anybody. I give it to Olivia all day.

(09:53):
That girl took a shot to the face, wanted to
keep going, asked to put a band aid on it,
and just wanted to not quit and got to her face.
Was just I mean, that was hard to watch. I
can't even imagine what it was like to be in
so gold Star Olivia all day. Yeah, definitely time out
maybe to you and Devon for given her that sabotage

(10:16):
that broke her face. I think that's fair. I think
that's fair, but both honestly five to ten minutes time out,
think about what you did. Yeah, I think I'm gonna
think about that, and I think that I need to
apologize to Olivia. So maybe we should have her on
the episode. Yes, we're going to get to speak to Olivia,
hear her point of view here, Tory profusely apologize to

(10:38):
her and see how well that goes. So don't go anywhere.
Our interview with Olivia Kaiser is coming up next, along
awaited rookie of the season, maybe up the decade. Yeah,

(11:05):
not to mention the only person that look good during
every challenge, that's true, I'm not sure how we all
looked fucking disgusting. Well, you still looks beautiful. I think
I balanced it out with what we're about to talk about,
so we'll see. No, just a badass through and through.

(11:25):
Like anybody watching this season who doesn't like Ride for
You or like root for You is just living a sad,
lonely life. And I mean yeah, because like what what
a season? You know, Like, obviously it's gotten you to
this point. You've been through every elimination pretty much possible,

(11:45):
but then it brings you to this final Let's just
address the most important part, you exiting the game and
having to sit here and rewatch this, Like what is
that like for you? Yeah? So, I mean it's honestly
like I make jokes about a lot of things. It's
just my coping mechanism to handle like severities of situations,
but this one it really got me. I was like, holy,

(12:08):
like put the knife in and twist like it her
like I can handle pain, like I mean, you can
kind of see. I actually don't even I mean, I'm
in shock. Let's talk about that. But I don't really
cry until I get told I can no longer continue.
And that's when I was like no, like no, like
this isn't happening to me, and but yeah, it definitely
brings me back to a very vulnerable, feeling, very sad moment,

(12:32):
and that's just not how I live my life. So
it's very weird, and I just feel very weird about
the whole scene. Do you know what I mean? You said,
can we put a band aid on it? Is there
anyone else? Can just put a tiny thing and I'll
just keep going. You would have bled out on the
five miles that were to come. Oh my god, Oh
my god, did you imagine even? I think that. First

(12:53):
of all, it's amazing that you even got as far
as you did, because most people, I think, coming into
the game without the without the friendships and new game,
it's really really stressful. The games are long. You're in
a bunch of eliminations which can either light a fire
under you or totally just crush you. And you rose
to the occasion, you made friends, you end up in

(13:13):
the I mean, you got so far, and it's not
like it's not like you did something where like you
were stupid or you got disqualified, like yeah online, it's
a freak accident from a bollos. I mean, this final
didn't want me to be there. What those carabeaners more deadly.

(13:36):
But actually, to be honest with you, my finger hurt
so much more than my face because you're I mean,
think about it, everything you touch, everything you're touch, there's
so many nerves in your fingers. And I had the
little white nerve just hanging out, and it was the
tires were so dirty too, Oh my god. And then
the fish, the fish guts was getting in it also,

(13:56):
like when you run, you know, your fingers they take
a lot of blood with the fingers swell up from
the fish. My throat started swelling up, and I was like, dude,
if I'm allergic to fish, it's a bad time to
find out. That was like fish. It was like lading
to the to the listeners out there, these these giant
mugs were filled with it tasted like ranch, salt and fish.

(14:22):
That's actually a cute way of putting it, because to me,
it tasted like freaking dead bodies. I'm just I was like,
the basic components was just like a lot of salt,
a creamy substance, and fish to the point where like
my fingers were swollen in pale because yeah, how much
salt were losing so much because we were sweating our
asses off. Oh my god, I was dying in I
was dying watching Olivia do a back saying it's tuna milk.

(14:45):
Is that what you're saying? I said, I said, it
tastes like a tun tuna melt, not tuna milk. I
mean it's like tuna milk helps no one throughout the season,
and tuna. We're excited about eating challenge. I think we're
do really well. Like I think we're gonna eat like
some kind of like heart or something, because you know,

(15:05):
I'm from Alaska. Back home. We will go fishing, we
put like fish eyeballs in our mouths, like to see
who go like chewing the longest. Like just like weird
things as kids, I know. I mean, let's just forget,
we're gonna stir. We all have our own childhood. I'll
have our own childhood and respect you. It's weird. So
I was like, Okay, I think an eating challenge will
be just fine. Holy shit, I ate my words because

(15:25):
that was the most foul experience of my entire life.
I will never be able to describe how bad it
was because I have never tasted anything similar to So,
So you're saying that your dad didn't have you in
Alaska at the dinner table, like you know what, this
may come up later in life. Here's some man fish
we caught today inside of it, and then I'm gonna
pour salt on it. Oh yeah, he'd be like, here's

(15:46):
some liver, here's some heart, and I'd be like, you know,
I don't want to eat, and like come on, you're
my girl. I'm like, okay, we had proud so I'd like,
I mean it still tasted like horrible, but you know,
I loved hearing how much you talked about him, Like yeah,
it's just like and I think that, like as a challenger,
as somebody going through all of those obstacles, you really
do draw back to like, Okay, how am I even
able to do this? Like what he pushes me to

(16:09):
that point? And it's just beautiful that you were able
to reference your father. So tell us a little bit
about your relationship with him. Yeah. So, I mean, honestly,
I don't always gonna be the girl like from Alaska,
from Alaska, but also like it is such a different
way of growing up. Like I do think that I
overcompensate with being girly now because I wasn't really, I

(16:30):
never was able to fully express myself as a kid
in the ways I wanted to because it was always
like a survival lifestyle in a way. So I grew
up with my dad like we would go fishing, and
that's pretty common, but you know, it was like extreme
things like we go fishing for like three days, not showering,
like you know, gutting these fish as a twelve year old,

(16:50):
like slicing a fish open, like you know, cooking over fire.
Just like learning little tasks that I thought were so
normal and realizing when I came to like the you know,
the lower forty eight or whatever it is, I mean,
lam Arizona, that's not maybe it's stone common. My dad
definitely taught me to be strong in like my character,
never compromise it for anyone or anything. He taught me

(17:12):
to always push myself because I'd always say I can't,
I can't. And it's actually funny, Jordan kind of reminds
me of my dad in a weird way, like he
is I know it that maybe came out weird, but
he kind of reminds me of like, you know, he
he sees my dad sees the power in me more
than I even see it in myself, and I think
that during my hard moments, I heard his voice just

(17:34):
being like, come on live, come on, Livy, you've got this.
Come on, you've got this. You're bad as you've got this.
And and even if I didn't believe it when I
was a kid, I always would do. I would always
make it through because you know, of his encouragement. So yeah, yeah,
it was cool because I don't relate with my dad
a lot in this this time of my life because
I am, you know, on social media, like to do

(17:54):
photo shoots in bikinis whatever. So it's cool to be
able to watch the show and hear my dad's feedback
being like every week being like, you're such a bad girl,
and it just like feels good to be able to
have you know, something common again. Oh he's gonna love it.
Oh my god, I know I heard something in there.
The Lower forty eight. Is that what y'all call us

(18:21):
for the eight? Yeah, they're like, yo, you know those
people in the lower forty eight, like, you guys are
out there just just killing shit, bride wolves and snow dogs.
And in Alaska you were outside, mind you we frozen
Argentina and then I'm waiting at you, and I'm like,
you're on a mountain. You just went up a mountain
for a photo, like just to take random pictures in Alaska.

(18:43):
Eight yeah at all put different in your home and
you're not in It's different, nim right. And also I'm
like I can quote whenever I want to. It's a
mental mental strength is such a pricking thing. But um yeah,
it's funny because Alaska's biggest flex is that it's the
big estate, and because everyone thinks Texas is right, so

(19:03):
Alston's biggest flexes like we're basically happy United States. So yeah,
well you know, I love that. I never would have
known that you gotta get a T shirt? What's the
biggest state? Most people would get that wrong. So I
want to know when. I want people to know because
this was such a such a fast moment, and I

(19:24):
know it's hard to like relive injuries, but we see
you pulling on it and then you're like, I'm going
to switch to the injured finger, and then you go
back to the regular finger and it's like this split second,
like how it even turned, Like I don't I was
looking forward to turn because I was there, so I
knew that you hurt yourself, but I was, so I
was looking for like that moment and it's still like

(19:46):
I feel like I would have to watch in slow mo.
So like I think it's anytime you hesitate with anything,
it goes wrong. So like I also like Rascio was
very encouraging the whole time, but he definitely as I
would be too, in the moment He's like, come on,
so it's not his fault. I need. I mean, we
all need that encouragement of like let's go, let's go.
But my finger was so bad and it got so

(20:06):
much shit in it or stuff in it, whatever it
got the tire, it got the fish guts. It was
bleeding non stop with running with the tire, there's so
much you know, you're holding a heavy tire, right, So
it was gone. It was the blood was pulsing. So
I actually had a stop before the slingshot and get
my finger cleaned out with a antiseptic that is like

(20:27):
the strongest one basically for surgeries, Like you know what
I'm saying. So it stumped you guys, Oh the pain
of getting think of proc side in a little cuts like,
oh it stinks, no, bro, This was so painful. So
when I'm walking up, you can kind of hear me beeing,
like like a little bit catching my breath like I
was crying. It's because I was just screaming, like I
was literally screaming. I was like, oh my god, like
it hurts so bad. So wrapped that up again, and

(20:49):
then I ran to the golf ball, and so I'm
kind of like still trying to get it together. I'm like,
first of all, I'm not a crier, like I don't.
I don't cry. It's a flaw. Maybe it's maybe good
and sometimes, but no matter what it is, it's hard
for me to cry. So if I'm crying, it means
I'm in excruciating pain. So I was, yeah, trying to
get it together. And then the golf ball the slingshot.
I was like, of course, it's my middle finger on

(21:11):
my right hand, and if you shoot a slingshot like
I actually grew up shooting arrows, bone arrows and shooting
like I was, I'm actually good at aims. So I
was like, Okay, I was thinking, this is not gonna
be that much of a problem for me. And then
when I saw that there was a swing shot my finger.
You know messed up. I was like, God, damn it,
because I knew that the middle finger is what you
shoot with. So I was like, okay, maybe the pointer,

(21:31):
but the pointer is never going to make a straight shot.
And then I'm like my left hand, I don't know
what's going on with that. We'll try it out. And
then I yeah, and just a split second, I was like, well,
I'm taking too long trying to figure it out. Let
me just gell me to shoot. And then I remember
seeing at the corner of my eye that the swing
shot was twisted a little bit, and I just right
when I saw that, I let go. And I mean,

(21:53):
it happened so fast, you guys, and it felt I mean,
I got rocked. So obviously I haven't talked talked about it,
but my face actually did end a breaking in five places.
So I broke my nose, but I also broke my
optical bone behind my eyeball, and I broke my skull
so it cracked. It cracked all the way after my hairline.

(22:15):
But one of the first things I did was I
checked my teeth. I was like, okay, my teeth are
all there. Were good because I did not have braces
for literally ask if your nose is okay eighteen times
because I'm like, this is my brand, Like, this is
my face we're talking about. I'm not gonna especially if
I got d cute and didn't win, I'm like, I
need to take I'm not unlessing my face up for
the rest of my life, Like, oh my god, hell no,

(22:37):
I better have my nose if I'm not winning. I
can't even imagine how traumatic it is for you. And
also just want to throw in there, I'm so fucking
sorry for that sabotage, Like what a trash way for
that to unline. I wish I would have sabotaged because
I'm sorry. Maybe I wouldn't have cracked your face. I
don't what if I did. Remember I tried to kill
me with almonds, and you're trying to kill me the ball. Okay, listen,

(22:59):
I will say so if that would have happened to me, too,
felt awful. I feel awful regardless, and with my luck,
I would have lost an eye. The fact that I
hit me directly in the middle of the eyes shows
how good of a shot I am. You know what
I'm saying. Instead of having a pirate, we have feedback
with us I mean, and I mean yeah, like listen,

(23:19):
I match would have been cute though for a little bit.
I guess I could have rocked it. But yeah, I
couldn't see actually out of my I mean I could
see straight, but if I looked up or down, it
was double vision. And and it was just wild when
I was like, dude, am I There was a moment
when I was in the you know, in the deepness
of everything, even in the hotel room, where I was like,
am I ever going to be normal again? Like did
I just suck myself up to go on a TV show?

(23:40):
Like I'm like, this is real life. People forget I
think that not only is this a reality TV show,
this is like an intense, intense competition show, and anything
can happen. We're all cening ourselves at risk every single day.
And I don't even think I took that seriously until
it seriously happened to me. So, well, what's crazy? Even
if you do hurt yourself, you'd probably go back on

(24:00):
another one. It's a weird thing. And I think it's
only a challenge or thing where like we literally know
that we could get hurt at any moment. Yeah, whether
it's what happened with Nannie falling off the thing one
false move. I mean, even when we start the challenges
and we have to go walk up into the woods
and then come out. I mean, anything could happen to
you at any point, and we sign up for that,

(24:22):
and it just I think it takes some type of
like badassery if you will, to like get you there,
Like you have to be a certain type of humane
these kinds of shows, and it just shows like with you,
like you still wanted to play even when they had
the ambulance, just like throw a band aid on me.
I just want to know where they took you. What

(24:44):
was going on there? Were you more scard in the
ambulance everybody? Yeah? Yeah, So I think when I got
in the ambulance, it was so funny, like I'm still
cracking jokes in the ambulance, like I'm like write or die,
Like who am I'm like, oh kay, you just broke
your face, Like it's okay to be serious. But yeah,
I think, I mean I was honestly kind of making
jokes the whole way to the hospital because I was

(25:05):
a little bit so shocked, couldn't really feel the pain
as much as I just felt my whole face was
absolutely numb, and no one spoke English fluently, So I
was like, why couldn't Rossio come with me if they
were gonna I didn't know, I thought, honestly, in all transparency,
like I could be like good the next day. I
don't know. So I was like, why wouldn't they let
him continue? I mean, I get it, and it's totally fair,

(25:25):
but I was expecting maybe them to let him continue
because it's not fair that we got dque because of me.
And that's why I do still even to this day,
kind of have a little bit of self blame. But
obviously it's not my fault, but it is my fault,
you know, it's on me, so um yeah. Pulling away,
I was just like, oh my god. I think the
producer came at Eimer and she's like, I'm so sorry,
but like you're done, and I was just like and

(25:45):
that's when I started. That's the first time I started crying.
I was just like, no, like please, you know, and
and it was just you know, at that point, I
was just like in disbelief that this was actually happening
to me. So on the way to the hospital, no
one really speaks to English. I was kind of going
in and out. I'm blocking out. They were sure if
my brain was starting to swell, because I started not
to be able to see. And then I started getting
scared because this is like my body of like you

(26:07):
have one freaking body, and like it kind of actually
put I'll talk about this later, but I think everything
is a blessing in disguise, and I'll tell you why.
I feel like this was a blessing in a weird
way for me. But um, we went to a hospital.
It was an hour away. So I was in this ambulance,
by the way, small ambulance with no freaking there was
no there was no shocks on this thing. It was
like there was the bumpiest ride I've ever experienced while

(26:29):
I have a broken notes. Walco was trying to hold
my face and yeah, and it was just and did
you see the part where she's like I was like,
it's my nose, okay, and she's like you blue eyes.
I'm like, blue eyes are not gonna cut it. It's
I'm like, sis, that's not so anyway to get to
the hospital, I'm still in my fish suit, so I
smelt like fish the whole time. I was in the hospital. Um,

(26:51):
doctors are coming in and out. I have like five
different specialists come in, one four X rays, so X rays,
and that's when they found out that obviously my finger
wasn't broken because I thought my finger that the bone
ripped like like you know, bent backwards. I know. And
then that's when they said I broke my face and five. Well,
at first they were like, okay, look that bad might
just be a bruise. And then and I was just thinking, guy,

(27:16):
a bruise. It's just so confused by that. So that's
when I told me about my face being broken. That's
when they said I need to go to the eye
specialist because I should not I should be able to
see out of my eyes. They weren't sure of A
piece of bone might have cut like in the back
of my eye, which even if you push on your
eye a little bit, you'll see double vision. So any
like tweak to your obstacle bone will change your vision

(27:37):
right now. Yeah, try everyone that's listening, push on your eye.
That's what I stopped for two months out of one eye. Yeah,
so it's like it's yeah. So I was like motion
sickness a lot, a lot. I don't. Yeah, I just
didn't love it for me. I remember you trying to
do your hairy after and it was just very very
hard tot all of those things. Oh my god, I
forget about these things. Yeah. So so anyways, I'm sitting

(28:00):
in the hospital. By the way, the final we ran
a lot. I'm not kidding. I think I like lost
maybe like ten pounds even from like two days you guys, yeah,
first day like and so and so. I was in
hospital for another day, one full day, and then they
were like, do you guys want to or do you
want to go back to your hotel room? And I
was like scared. And I've never been scared before like this,
because I do. I am a person that thinks that

(28:20):
I can control on anything in my life. I was
scared to go back. Like they didn't really fully know
what was happening. And I was like, does Argentina does
not take it seriously? Or do I just understand what
they're staying? Like do you know what I'm saying? Like
there was just that communication barrier, which now knowing everything
is it's not anyone's fault. It was just really scary
time for me and I was just like desperate for
her answers. So I was like, I'm scared to go

(28:41):
back to the hotel room, Like what if my brain
swells up and they wake up to me dead, like
I don't know, Like I like, you never know. And
also you hear stories that about people getting hit in
the in the temple or hit in the head the
wrong way and they die. So I was scared to
go back to the hotel room. And finally I was like, Okay,
I think I'm good because some lady was like, some lady,

(29:02):
I had two black eyes. Someone thought I was a
battered woman in the hospital. Like someone was like, are
you okay? Like this this lady, she was so sweet.
She was in hospital bed. By the way, they don't
do individual hospital rooms. I was like stacked up. So
I'm over here like black eyes, like can't see out
of one eye. I'm just like where am I? What
am I doing? I'm hanging out with They sent a
security guard to come like watch me and stuff, but

(29:22):
they barely speak English, and I'm just kind of like
we're just staring at each other, just like I don't
have my phone, so I'm literally just like awkward. I
was like, but they were they were all dolls. So
I was just like, yeah, I look so and they
and they yeah, it was just a lot what they
tell you to do when you left, Like what they say.
Did they say it was going to be you needed surgery? Yeah, yeah,

(29:44):
so yeah okay. So so I went to the hospital
the next day to go get another check, and they
said that I need surgery within like four days because
it's such a fresh cut or fresh fresh fracture that
it's easier for the muscle or the bones to be
placed back into place whatever. I don't really know everything,
Like I said, it was very broken English, and I
have luckily good like you know, pas that were helping

(30:06):
me translate, but like still they don't even know how
to translate English. So I was just like, oh my god,
all I heard of surgery in four days, and I
was just like, I'm not having surgery in Argentina, like
no offense to anyone, but I want to be where
I'm comfortable and go to my house and be in
my home. So so yeah, like I obviously got a
ticket back within I think three days to get surgery
in America. They hooked me up with the doctor in

(30:27):
the US and got everything done and it turned out
that it's actually not good. So this is this is
where like there's everyone has difference ideas of what's right
and wrong with surgeries and with injuries and an Argentina
and they said I need a surgery and the three
days in the US, they said I need to wait
six months because they actually want to make sure all
the swelling goes down. Said, they give me a nose job,

(30:48):
they don't want it to have swelling interfere with the
outcome because it could look like, oh, my nose is
really cute and small, and the swelling goes down, and
then I have like a crazy looking face, like and
I'm just not could you imagine you look like the
crypt keeper after right? Yeah, I think your nose was great.
I thought you looked badass with the with the black eyes.
You looked so pretty. It was the first time that
I'm like, oh my god, they're gonna see You're not

(31:09):
gonna have any makeup on Youre's just gonna be you
and maybe some lip gloss. I didn't even put bloss on.
I didn't even makeup that interview because I was just like,
this is what it. I loved it, And that was
I think it's great for everybody to kind of see
like there was so much like honesty in those moments
and the interviews, and it was just like, this is
what happened, and I'm still here to talk about it,

(31:31):
and I think it's you went through a lot this
season and yeah, you still like this was ly on
the cake. I mean I would have been like, no,
y'all are not. I feel like shit, no, I'm not
doing this interview, and you still even did that. So
like through and through, you're you're a warrior, You're a
warrior princess, and you still look Yeah, great, I'm really
happy you didn't get the nose job. Yeah I am too.

(31:52):
I mean I only can breathe that on one side.
But well, we'll fix that one. We'll just have somebody
just hold your nostril for the rest of your life.
We'll just have a nostril helper. Okay, you're hired. I mean, okay, fine,
I'll come. I'll come to Arizona. Yeah, and I'll just
hold it over. Okay. So before we go end me further,
we need to take a quick break. We'll be right
back after this. I want to follow up on what

(32:24):
you said earlier about how you said it's like a
blessing in disguise, because I think that, like anybody who's
had to recover from a traumatic injury, maybe could use
some light and yeah, we have to say about that. Yeah,
So obviously when it happened, I mean, there's no there's
no speedy way that you can recover from this. So
it was definitely going to be a journey. And they

(32:44):
told me that even not even just weeks, like months,
because of first of all, the pain every day. I
mean even to this day, my nose still crunch is
weird and it's actually not that bad. It's not that bad,
but it's still it's a memory. Also, even just looking
at myself in the face every day and seeing a scar,
it's a constant reminder. Um, I am lucky that I
have the most amazing like blazer text here. So I
wound lazer on my scar and it almost is gone actually,

(33:05):
which I know, and it's a big deal because the
scar was not just a scar like a cute like
you know, like battle when like a gash, It was
like a bumpy. It was crazy at first, and I'm
I'm gonna make a whole coage of all of like
I'm in a whole video of me going through everything,
so you can see all the process of everything I
went through, even just like my emotions and all that.
But um, yeah, I mean obviously almost To be really honest,

(33:28):
I am superficial to a point. Let's be honest here,
and I care about how I look. It also stems
from me not being I was an ugly duckling as
a kid. I also went through, you know, a lot
out of being I guess, I don't know. I just
I struggled as a kid, not being what the way
I wanted to look or treated the way I am
treated now because I looked a certain type of way,

(33:51):
and now looking back, I was like, Okay, I was
a cute kid, but feeling it is different than maybe
what other people see. And I think getting hit in
the face really opened my eyes to all the things
I have pushed under the rug for my insecurities, my
inner child, and it made you confront those things. But
not only was it painful to see myself every day,
it was painful to deal with the feelings I was

(34:12):
feeling behind the face. It's beautiful. So yeah, I think
just even just like what you're Gonnak forever with two
black eyes, like like you're good enough without you know,
looking like a freaking pretty princess, Like yeah, thank you.
Yeah no, it really like I said it was, It's
a blessing in disguise. And I'm not saying not totally
heeled from that. I'm saying that I definitely am aware
of it now where it wasn't aware of it it then.

(34:34):
So yeah, like finding myself, it's worth more than million
dollars to me. Yes, girl, Oh my god, yeah, oh god,
I feel But also, you child, is so true and
in all of us, like there is that bit of
we do. We all have our insecurities, whether you know
someone else like thinks it might be silly or we

(34:55):
may feel feel like stupid about it. I mean, our
feelings are valid. So thank you. And like you two,
you two were like a big part of this, Like
you girls were there for me. Like I mean, obviously
we didn't really not get along. We never hung out
at the beginning of the season, and there was a
point I think where we're like, wait, we actually all
have a good time together, Like we all relate on
different levels, and so there was a point where it's

(35:17):
like Okay, like obviously we all want to get to
a final and we'll do our best all get there. Um.
It was also being it was a weird position for
you guys maybe and me because I was rookie, So
I was like, I get, I totally get that your
allegiance was others, but also I loved you and I
know you guys loved It's a weird thing, but buys
help me a lot. Both of you guys did not
need to give me advice that you gave me in
the house to be better, because I mean, funny, you

(35:40):
guys can try to scare me out of my shock. Dude,
I loved It's like, yeah, no one's trying to scare you. Yeah,
Live made me last Live. That day we drank our

(36:01):
apperall springs together while Tori tried to steal them. Dude.
I mean, I think I love the love end for
that reason. It's because you've been through all of it,
and you know, you have like a week to go
with these people and you may have fought with them
or you may not have had time to really get
to know them when they were thirty other people in
the house, but now you get to and it's like

(36:23):
such a yeah, novel of being able to understand people.
It's like trauma bond, but it's well, really, we're trauma
bond for real. Now, Yeah, I agree. I really do
think that there is a plan, a life plan for everyone.
And I think that I was lucky enough to have
you guys be so close to me in the house
because I needed you guys after that happened, like do

(36:45):
you know what I mean? Like I in the hotel room,
if I was having beef with everyone, which I'm that's
just not my that's not in my fucking blood. But
like if I did, like I would be so alone.
And like Arassio was a dude, he's not been relate
with me the way maybe a woman that I I mean,
he's not gonna relate with me the same way that
you guys, did you know, because he's gonna obviously he's
gonna he says boundaries. I don't want to on the door,

(37:07):
like how are you? Oh my god, what's happening? Like that?
You know? It's like groups sisters, so like I like
some that need the overpowering of love being like we're
gonna love you, and I'm like, no, don't look at me.
Like I'll stay in my room, like I don't want to,
you know, I'm like, not people to easier. But what
is it called? Like I I'm like, I don't like
to make anyone uncomfortable. Yeah, so I'm just like I'm like,

(37:28):
I don't want you us to see this maybe or whatever.
And you guys were just like, no, we're all hanging out.
We're all gonna have some drinks, and and they were
they were telling you, They're like in the hotel room,
They're like, we don't want you to drink a couple
because your face outmember. Okay, okay, I'm having a cheeve
ever too, because look at me, I deserve it. So

(37:48):
we ended up drinking. But but yeah, I know, so
like I want to say thank you to you girls too,
because I know, like it wasn't easy for any of us,
but definitely needed you guy as well as Naughty because
she was obviously amazing. Well just to be there at
the end, even the guys, they were all they were
everyone was amazing, And I think that like to I mean,

(38:08):
just like your season was such an incredible season, dude,
Like like you said, like, yeah, why would you expect
a rookie to immediately align with a vet like this
is just not how the game is operated in years.
But like at the end there it got to a
point where it's like respect is respect, Like watching you
and Rassio have that season that you had seen, like
you are you are it like some people come on

(38:29):
and want to you came on it. You were just
like yere, I am like, I'm blond, I'm big, I
got makeup on, and I'll fuck sit up and like
all the way to the end, even you sang slap
a band aid on my on my blues und I
think it looked like that for days. It was just well,
oh my god, I mean you look badass. And yes,

(38:53):
I think that you had an incredible season and you
were a very likable person and I think that people
can relate to you. But it also I mean, I'm
just I don't know, I knows that you could walk
into like a new situation, make friends, come out with
actual friends, and in the meantime, in between time on
the show, kick ass and then look pretty doing it.

(39:16):
Oh I love you guys all we all look like
garden gnomes little face And I would literal I'm like,
did she really have all that makeup on, and then
I'm like, oh shit, that's why, because we look like
garden gnomes. No, do you know what? You looked amazing?
You looked amazing before everything, And I'm like, why that
doesn't translate for everyone? Oh listen, this is why I did.

(39:38):
It's like you were at a different place in the
same outfit. I did it because when I was on
Love Island, you forget there's cameras, right, And I look
back at that show and I some days wasn't wearing
makeup and I looked like disheveled, and I was like,
I think I'm not gonna ever want to look back
at a show and be like I should have probably
tried a little harder. So I was like, I was
just like, I'm just gonna do it. And also, honestly,

(39:59):
it's kind of meditation for me. It's my war paint,
you know, and I'm gonna keep doing it. Look good,
feel good, play good. Yeah. I feel like exactly, Tory.
I feel like we did. I feel like that was
like total madness, Like we weren't going to wear a
makeup and then we ended up being like, oh shit,
and then we wear a little bit. But now I
feel like, um, I felt I feel like if I
do that, my whole face coming out of the water

(40:19):
is going to be up. So I was more nervous
about it coming off, yeah than anything, honestly. Gonna be
sponsored yeah yeah, yeah, honestly, I think you should be
sponsored because now I'm more encouraged to look better, honestly,
So thanks for that. We're going to be in full
glam next we go on Feel Glam Full Glam. Yeah.
I do want to talk about, like, do you think

(40:40):
that you did you ever expect knowing that you and
Rossia were rookie rookie pair, seeing kind of how the
season was going, that you would ever make it to
the final. So no, no, no, but I didn't think
we were not going to make it because of our ability.
I really thought we were just going to be like outnumbered,
and I honestly didn't think which we were. But I
also didn't think that like you think about me and
ROSSI were never direct vote, not once all season. Yeah,

(41:03):
so I really think that's game I'm just saying. But
the thing is, But the thing is, I'll be honest,
like I wasn't even trying to play it like that.
I just I just ROSSI was just, you know, adorable,
and he's just amazing as a human. So he made
connections in a in a good way, and I made
them in a you know, a good way as well.

(41:25):
But mine were maybe a little bit crazy. Uh. I
felt like, yeah, we were lucky. Even though everyone was
against us, no one was directly shooting necessarily at us,
or if they were, they were going around us by
other people like the Johnny and Raven. So I mean,
I can't believe we made to the final, but I
also can because we also went our ass off. But
I mean I've seen I haven't seen a lot of seasons, right,

(41:45):
but now I started watching it again. I watched Dirty thirty.
I was like, that's your rookie seasoning. Yeah. I was like,
damn you ever mean it's you that I watched. I
almost cried. I'm like, god, a bet that's my best friend.
I show the full circle that Like that was a

(42:06):
crazy season, you know, like it's all a game at
the end of the day, Like we're all we're all cool,
like we all can be cool. But yeah, So I
watched some of them now and like, not a good
chance that you're not going to be a direct vote
at least once, right, And so I think we got lucky.
But also maybe it was gameplay and our personalities just
maybe we're just like good personality for the challenge that
it just happens naturally. I don't know, like we got lucky.

(42:27):
I think that I believe in God and or you know,
a harder power, and I think that everyone has to plan,
and he had a plan for me, whether or maybe
it was as cheesy as it is waking myself up
to you know, myself and just being a better person.
And maybe I can you know, hopefully inspire young girls
that think that. Listen, going into this on Twitter, on

(42:47):
every social media platform, everyone put us as number one
to go home first, and it almost just feels good.
Yeah yeah, let's see honest here, right, And so it
just feels good to be like I mean, so you're like, oh,
you're probably gonna go home to listen our airplane experience.
I can't not the airplane. I also didn't think. I

(43:07):
also didn't the air well. I didn't know on the airplane,
I was like, oh, party girl, but yeah, I didn't know.
There's always a plan, there's always a plan. Things that happened,
But I think everything happened for so yeah, so like
I don't know, it was just felt good to like they.
I don't know. I feel like I stuck it to
everyone that ever doubted me, and like that just felt
good in itself because honestly, I knew what I was capable,
and I played soccer growing up. Like I don't really
talk about my sports because I'm not athletic like that anymore.

(43:30):
But like I went on the show You Guys without
working out, like I did not work out, and and
I didn't realize how intense like it was gonna be
because I never studied the show and never watched it really,
so I didn't realize like a mile whatever, but a
mile for me is totally fine. But it's when you're
trying to keep up with people that are really good
at running that it's hard and you're like I can't

(43:51):
even do it, like y'all. And and also your mind
plays a big part, yeah, And like in your mind,
like when people are passing you and you're like, oh
my god, like they're passing, be like, oh can I
do this? Maybe I can't do this maybe, and you
start to play games with yourself. So I definitely think
if I was to be invited back. I've been training now,
so like I'm good and I'm honestly I've been just
training just for like life. I feel better as a person,

(44:12):
my mental feels better. Um well yeah, I mean I've
heard where what's going with this? But I never thought
i'd make get to the final No, Yeah, I'm happy
I did exactly. Yeah, and I think it's written like
you said, you know, you believe in that higher power
that universal how much growth you've had and also you've
had to publicly have just by like going through what
you've going through and then still having this optimistic and

(44:32):
positive outlook saying like now you love yourself more after
that accident, you are working out more. Like these are
huge things. And even though you just want to inspire
young girls, I guarantee you there's older women out there
that are looking at you and they're like wow, like
if she can conquer that, I can get up and
I can go do ten thousand steps today, Like yeah,
I can do no totally, so I mean or two

(44:55):
yeah or whatever even whatever whatever your goal is, it's
it's a taking. It's achievable. Yeah. That even just goes
with like I mean I'm not going to talk about
this too much, but like even just mental health. After
I left the show, I like slid into such a
depression and I have really never been depressed before. But
because I always am busy, always see myself busy, I'm

(45:16):
always distracting myself what it is. So I think maybe
I've always had depression tendencies, but I've been distracted. So
when I really was forced to sit with myself in
my pain, I had to confront all those demons and
I was just like WHOA, Like this is going to
be a lot to handle. So I'm now I'm taking
steps and like I'm going to therapy. I'm talking more
openly about it, even just fear like I don't ever

(45:37):
talk about these things, but like I'm trying to force
myself so I can grow in that way and be
also open and honest with my friends because I want
to be able to let them know they're not alone
if anything, and also like leave it open for them
to give me advice to help me, because I deserve
to be helped as well, and I need to be
okay with like accepting help as well. So it's a
lot of things, you know what I mean. And also

(45:58):
last thing for this being everyone on Twitter and whatever
saying I was going to be voted home first because
you know whatever. And then and then even people like
kind of chirping about me just you know, with the
makeup or what I look like. Whatever. It's like, I
thought it was cool because I feel like in a
way it broke stereotypes for me. And I feel like
I'm like, you can look whoever, like it's really all
hard at the end, that it's all hard, you know. Yeah,

(46:19):
I love all that. And I also just that made
me think of another thing. And I think it's important
for us to just talk about this for a moment
because people did see your evolution with Nelson over the season,
and then obviously we know your personal story about why
you guys didn't continue. But I think just you now
talking about wanting the space to figure yourself out, like
maybe just touch a little bit of light on that,

(46:39):
because I think that it's really important for people to
understand why you guys are not yeah talking Yeah. So
I mean there's a lot of reason. Well, so obviously
on the season, I there's a okay, so I was
not wanting to go on the show and couple up
with it a couple up. I am using Love Island terms.
You guys. It was like a couple. I know, I

(47:02):
kind of wanted to go on a show. Coming off
a love show, I was known as Olivia and said
person right, so I wanted to just do this. And
that's why, even like me and Rossio, like everyone's like,
are you guys like dating? You guys talking here together,
I was just like no, and even in my head,
like I was like, I'm not going to do that.
And I mean not that he was giving me the okay,
let's be honest here, but I just told myself like

(47:23):
I'm not going to have any like romances or whatever,
never really thinking that I would maybe meet someone else.
But I thought since we were rookies, maybe no one
would give me. No guy would give me the time
of day. I guess people, if that makes sense, yeah
right right, everyone that stood on my dams before the
show listening. But but yeah, take a while, I guess, um.

(47:45):
So coming on the show, I was like, I'm not
gonna associate himself the guy because if I do well,
I want to be able to do it my on
my terms, and because I deserved it. I don't ever
want to be carried by a show me. That's just
not cute for me, and that's nothing. That's something I
don't want to set even for my sister. Is an
example of like, you know, a guy or whatever, but
with me still not being awakened by my necessary healing.

(48:08):
I feel like I always needed a man to completely
in a weird way, like I always needed like someone
there that made me feel safe. I didn't feel safe
maybe alone, if that makes sense. I don't know how
to describe it, but I just felt like I don't know,
I don't know. I basically I met Nelson. He was
an amazing guy. He was someone that I felt like
wasn't gunning for me because me and the Reese got

(48:30):
really close as well, right, and so I felt safe.
He was very vulnerable from the get go, and I
didn't know him before the show, and I honestly was
not expecting it to go anywhere. You guys know that
I had a full ass crush on someone else in
the house, which they just don't talk about our show.
I'm gonna leave that to the imagination. Oh my god,
just bring it up. Oh my god, Okay, guy, just

(48:51):
say the name, Just say the name and move on.
I just okay, I'll give it. I'll give a hint.
I'll give a hint because I don't know what the
situation was necessary outside of the house. But there was
a point where this person that I kind of had
a connection with started like pulling away in the way
of like, okay, maybe he crossed the line. And that's
when I was like, and there was a little rumor
was kind of trickling around the house like he might

(49:12):
be talking to someone or has or on off. So
I was just like, we're not gonna go there. And
he says, it's your favorite person. We'll just say that. Yeah. Anyways,
well and like since then me and him has had
a conversation and like everything is like whatever, and like
we're we're friendly, we're friendly, like we're friends. Good did
he pull away though? I okay, well, yes, well this

(49:33):
is this is the thing. This is the thing. I
felt like, I know when a guy is like all
in on me and I'm sorry, but like I'm one
of those girls that like you need to fall hard
for me or I'm not gonna be vulnerable with you
because I'm not ready to get my heartbroken. So yeah,
I know I'm doing. What it was is I was
at the club and with you guys everyone, and I
was like, he's being a little weird distant. And then
there was a bet. I think it was like it

(49:54):
was my rooming. It was an analyse Mariah and Therese,
I think, and I was like, I was in the
fence of this guy and Nelson. I was like, okay,
like you know, I like both of them, but like whatever,
and I'm just and I said, whoever strikes first, I'm
just gonna go for because it's not like I'm having fun.
And and then yeah, and then I think I actually
was whoever. Yeah, And boy did he ever. Actually, I'll

(50:17):
be honest, I was one that went and crawled in
his bed. Hey you know what those freaking right guys.
I think we made like we made like ten different
names for adult spirits like whatever you can imagine West
But um, so yeah, So me and Nelson got together.
He was honestly like my sound board in the house.

(50:39):
I still really respect him for that. I think that
when you're in a house and you're it's it's a
weird type of quarantine. It's almost like an end of
the world kind of thing, right, Like it's like, Okay, well,
this is my house, this is the only person that
And I'm not saying that I settled for him all.
I don't mean it like that at all, No, no
bad blood like that. I just mean like that was
the first of all single person we did connect. He

(51:00):
did make me feel special because he treated me very well.
I also think that I might have been just very
lonely and wanting to find solace in someone, and so
he got eliminated. And that's when I had those three
weeks by myself. And that's when I was with you
girls and we kind of all had a good time,
and I realized, I'm like, did I really like him

(51:20):
the way I thought I liked him? Or was I
feeling a void of loneliness because I felt like the
whole house was against me, and not in a bad way, right,
but like I just felt like, I'm like, I'm just
still alone in here. Like if I can make my
time any more, like any less painful, I'm going to
do that. And he made it, you know, obviously fun
for me. And you know I have wants and desires

(51:42):
and they were fulfilled. Yeah, But anyways, I had those
three weeks by myself in the house with everyone and
kind of found my footing and where I stood and
where I needed to keep standing if I wanted to stay.
And that's when I kind of, I don't want to
say forgot about him, because it's not like I don't
mean any disrespect, but I meant like, those feelings kind

(52:04):
of for me went away right. Well, realize they stemmed
from a place of, yeah, of a void, of filling
a void as opposed to it being a genuine like,
oh I this person fulfills me so and that's come
yea because those when we're on the show, everything seems
like emergent and immediate and serious, and you form these

(52:26):
kind of trauma bonds and a lot of these relationships,
I mean, some showmances don't really make it past the
front door. Yeah, and if they do, you're lucky and
there has to be, you know, something more to the relationship. No,
I just like just to wrap like that whole thing up.
When I left the final we talked and he was like,
I want to come see right away or come to Texas.
And at this moment, I also still was like I

(52:48):
just got hit in the face. So I'm like, honestly,
like no offense. I don't care about anything right now.
I care about being like being comfortable, and for me,
for me, comfort comfort was being alone and dealing with
what I just got dealt with. And I don't feel
comfortable having someone I still really don't really know in
my space, and I didn't and didn't. It was so
vulnerable and he didn't understand that, and that's where we

(53:10):
started colliding, and that's where he started like getting upset,
and that's when I started pulling away even more because
I was like we were obviously not on the same
page here. And then also, you know, we got to
know each other a little bit different outside the house,
and it was just, you know, he's just not my person,
and I was just as respect wise, I can keep it.
I think he's obviously a good guy. We'll see at
the reunion, you know what transpires. But yeah, yeah, I'm single.

(53:31):
I'm single as ever. Yeah, I as everyone. I'm single
ass also really single. I think like we you know,
the challenge, as corny as it is to say, like
you go through so many different challenges on the show,
whether it be like facing your own insecurities or like
dealing with like filling a void or the actual challenges itself,

(53:51):
so like just holding grace is the most important thing
because like, dude, you you've been through it. So I
commend you on that and for where you are today.
But let's talk about the guy that everybody loved this
season or everyone loved, Yes, how did you and Rascio
grow as partners throughout the season. So, I mean, obviously,

(54:15):
going in, I'm not like I might play dumb sometimes
and I'm not dumb. I knew that he was worried
about me keeping up with everyone, and and so I
kind of I'm happy he was like that because it
almost gave me a little bit more of a push,
like I'm gonna show him too, Like I'm not just
like some some girl like the party. So coming in,
I knew that he was a little bit concerned, and
I could see him kind of speaking on me time

(54:36):
to time, checking out of me all the time, like
even when we're at the clubs and stuff like are
you good? May be careful because we might have like
we would go into eliminations, And I was like, I'm sorry,
but I'm drinking because if this is my last night,
I'm got have fun. Yeah, because I did not come
all this way just not to enjoy myself and be
stressed out. Like I saw how it being stressed out
does not work for you. Because I've seen other people
that got eliminated this season that we're literally sitting in

(54:56):
the corner just like rocking, like scary on their you
know pants, and I'm just like using not me so.
But he was amazing. I mean, he's so encouraging. He
honestly doesn't have a bad bone in his body. I
hope he always stays that way, honestly because he's such
a good like He's such a good like stencil for
what a man should be like he or I guess
a blueprint. He's a good blueprint. That's what I want.

(55:19):
Kind of love the stencil. He's a stencil. He's a
little sketch someone's gonna make a meme with like him
and like a little stencil like I hear you though,
I agree, yeah, like and And honestly, I would be
lucky if I end up with someone that is similar
to him. Obviously, me and him are just friends just
for everyone. We're gonna, you know, repeat this, We're just friends.

(55:42):
I think we're always going to be friends. Um, I
think that. You know, you guys had a good time
with him. I was happy for you guys. I had
the joke I got to see we got to dress
him up in a crop sweater. Oh that was so fun.
Man loved it though he likes stuff like that. He

(56:02):
we had a very obst There was a lot of
a lot of jokes, had a lot of laughs. Sad,
And I think that that's for him, Like I think
it's hard to open up in these like very large
groups and one on one or like one on three.
He was fine. Yeah, it was great. Oh my god,
he did over over the season. You know, we got
to me obviously, you guys were there longer, so we
got to meet you closer and more and like just

(56:25):
like two fucking gifts to the show. And I pray
it's so true, Like I really really pray to God
that you come back because you gave it your tea myself.
You're not even that ship said it, We said it
from day one, Johnny said it, everybody said it that. Yeah,

(56:45):
I mean you you're a champion. Yeah, you're a champion
to make it. Yeah for sure, Like you have that
personality that deserves to be on DP. You know it
just were you're honesty, So I think that it's I
think you have a long future. Thank you. Listen. I
really wanted to be there, and so I was like,

(57:07):
you know, obviously there's days where people some people that
we saw in the house were kind of cracking, being
like I don't really want to be here anymore, like
send me home, I guess, and over this whatever. And honestly,
I wanted to be there until the second I left.
I agree, I agree, I co sign that well, Olivia,
Rossio is amazing. Oh no, I'm happy you brought that
up because we actually have a game for you real
quick before we let you go. It's our final segment

(57:28):
where we have three questions for you about Rossio, your partner.
You say that your ride or dies and now it's
time to prove it. Are you ready waiting? I will
say first though, Olivia, you have to know and this
is no pressure but all pressure. When we had him on,
you did really well. I'm gonna finess myself through this. Okay,
let's go, all right. Question number one, what was the

(57:53):
name of the show Rossio started on? Um? Okay, I
know this one. It's just really hard to pronounce x
X yes, good. Yeahs five. I'm sorry I started laughing
at number three already she's helping me out, sorry, distracting
you while I get the answers. She's Olivia onto the

(58:18):
second question. Are you ready? I'm ready? What's a Rascio's
position in soccer? Oh? Striker? Yeah? No? No? No? No?
Is it okay? Wait? Left? Left? Left? Forward or striker?
Count no strikers forward? That counts striker's forward. But there's
also one more position that he played. I believe he
plays middle. Yes, good job. All right, let's see if

(58:44):
you can kill the last one, because if you do,
Tori take it away. All right. Rassio attended Grand Canyon
University in Phoenix. What is their mascot? Wait? Wait, wait, wait,
wait wait wait, I know this one. It's some weird animal.
Wait isn't it like? Is it a bird? Get one

(59:06):
more guess I don't know, wolverine? Good try it. It's
thunder damn a antelope. I'm shaking your fear the fucking
antelope shout out to the Grand Cannon University. And I
live in a house. I'm god right. You would think

(59:27):
you would know thunder the antelope go. You're like, now
sing the chance. I'm not mad about. I'm mad about
getting that one around. I'm cool with that one. I
don't know who would have known. No, I don't think
he knows that I want him. What's yours? Yeah, I
want to see. Well, don't feel bad about it. Two

(59:50):
out of three is great. I got zero out of three,
so I think I think it proves that you're better
than me. Good job, and you and ROSSI have an
incredible bond. But Olivia, thank you so much. We're coming
on the show. I can't imagine how hard it must
have been to number one. I have to watch that
back and then thank you for being so raw and
vulnerable with us. What are your social media handles so
that we can follow you, support you, send you lots

(01:00:10):
of love? Yes, okay, so social media on Twitter is
Olivia Kaiser XO, and then on Instagram it is just
my name, Olivia A. And then ann A n n
Kaiser nice And just for our reference, what was your
very first screen name ever? On what? On Zoom? Yeah,

(01:00:30):
your very very screen name? Like, what was your va? Oh?
I think it was it was? Oh wait, how did
you freaking no? No? No, yes, no? What was twenty?
It was? I think it was stopper name zero three

(01:00:50):
because that was my number one play soccer. Well dead, guys,
if you need any psychic reading for the low price
of fun, I will try funny yours. I am dead.
Oh my god, I can't. You can't be anything else.

(01:01:13):
I of course I think it was a soccer baby.
And then I think I made another one because I
was like talking to Oh god, I could because you
were chat I was in chat rooms. I would like
literally was talking to Justin Bieber obviously not you were
no like people like Justin remember, like, oh like really
on your I was like really catfish hotmail was like

(01:01:35):
live forever. That was the thing on my name. Yeah,
I mean I don't mind that one. Yeah, live forever. Guys.
Better out you, guys, better out yours because dude, mine's trash.
It was literally tree stump one hundred, like I don't
want to talk. I don't I don't want to talk
about Yeah, I don't know, I don't know anyway an

(01:01:57):
it works though, And then mine was mine was suena coliente,
which means hot dreams in Spanish. Didn't tell me ship,
not hot dreams. It was fourteen hot dreams. We got
oh my god, even spicy scents and spicy sence like
kind of all and got teas a lot. Yeah, I

(01:02:18):
always found my inner spice, and no one to know
that was me. I have a very unique name, I feel,
so I don't know anything about that. Soccer Babe and
tree stump. Alright, alright, well, Olivia soccer babe. Thank you
so much for coming on the show. I fucking hate you, guys.

(01:02:42):
It was Oh my god. Oh I really trees love
when no one you needed it. Well, everyone for having
met fun Yeah, pull circle. We love you. Olivia. Thank
you so much for taking time out of your day
for being so candid with us textual later of course
I'll text you. Yeah, I'm excited to keep walking to

(01:03:05):
see this. Yeah, I love you. Love you guys. That
was a great interview with Olivia. She's just so honest

(01:03:28):
and real and it just seems like she's enjoying growing
through this process. So it's inspiring. Yeah, it definitely is.
I think that you know the challenge has done well
for you, or that you have really like taken it
for what it's worth when you can actually grow from
it and take the lessons you've learned from it and
apply it to your real life. So shout out to

(01:03:50):
live like thanks for sharing and thanks for putting up
with her shit, we love you. Yes, yes, and you
guys know where to follow her. You heard her say
it and he's where can we follow you my sexy dream? Oh?
Thank you girl. You can follow me at Anissa MTV.
That's a n e s a MTV on Instagram. I
don't really mess around on any other platforms A by

(01:04:12):
that one, Tory deal. Where can we follow you and
support you and love on you? Thank you? You guys
can follow me at Tori Wait I'm sorry and then
send Tory pictures of tree stumps? Ah? Shit. You guys
can follow me at Tory Underscore deal And I also
released Tory Dealing With Season two, which is my personal podcast,
really short episodes, deeper dive into who I am as

(01:04:34):
a person. If you want to know, come on over
and check it out. I listened to it last night
for a little bit. Nice niece. If you liked this episode,
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(01:04:54):
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