October 24, 2023 • 58 mins
Did a girl die when she did the "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" too hard and snapped her neck? Langston and David break it down with Atlanta comedian Mandal (Don't Tell Comedy) about this 2007 dance craze. They talk about high school dance battles and making sure we all know who Fabo is...even if you're from the Midwest.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
That video makes me sad because growing up, I thought
that's what adult life was gonna be.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Like, I thought that about I thought that about everything.
I've only cheated on women because unmated it sounds great.
It's hectic, It's hectic as fuck. He's never like, oh,
I'm getting all these text messages warm at work. He
never sings about that.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Mark bro I thought me and my own was getting
to escalade going to the club and started jig yup
the whole time for Yearly Club. Yeah, you can't even
it's so much hookah smoke. Now you trying to you
trying to get you, try to get some movement going.
You're gonna have some respiratory issues. Man, it's sick.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, it's ain't what they promised is.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
That's for damn Shrek chips in your.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Quality, racist, the the money, turkey stuff I can't tell me.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets
of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And we finally work to prove what the fuck is
wrong with Terry. Because I don't know whose team is on,
not mine, not mine.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I think I think the only people that could truly
claim Terry Crews as a teammate. A like those muscle
beach men, you know what I mean, Like it ain't black,
it ain't white, it's it's it's oily titty men.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Or other people who like agree, people who are into
saying they're addicted to porn. I don't trust. Yeah, what
I don't trust you're addicted to porn. We all are
grow up, we got climate change. You're worried about jerking.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
What do you think you're special because you because you've
gotten to the nooks and crannies of porn hub Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I bet in the nooks and crannies. He's not even
in the nooks and crannies.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I bet my.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If we're looking for search terms, I beat Terry Crews
every day. He's never.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He's never.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Here's what I like about what you're saying is that
I do think that that might be what haunts him
the most, is that he's sitting there and he's basically
just looking up missionary sex on these fucking websites. And
it's like, well, I'm addicted to that, then I'm a
piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That is, you are a piece of ship because I'm exploratory.
I get so deep on there sometimes I'm like, I
don't even know if this is porn. I think this
is just too chubby Filipino ladies foot range.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And that's what porn is for, because you're not you're
you're not going to be able to access that with
a family committed whatever. Bullshit that we're all finding ourselves.
That's what I'm saying. I'm on pornography to do stuff
I can't do in real life. And Terry Crews is
looking up a black lady who looks pretty close to
white with a fade, and that's his fucking wife, you.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Like he's literally looking for his wife, but he's doing
it just the skew of his wife.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And he's like, oh no, this is a sin. This
is He's looking up like do you remember KP and
envy looking up? He's looking up envy, envy nude. I'm
David Borie.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, I'm Likeston, Kerman and Boyd. We come in hot.
We came in hot today. We we didn't have a
lot to stand on, and we we milked it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
For all it was worth. Huh.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think we did a good job. I think that
was pretty good for not having a joke, Critton.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I thought we nailed it straight up.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I mean, I say, God, well, you know who always
has a joke written? You know who's never unprepared is
our guest today. He's so fucking funny. I think we
talked about having him on the podcast, you and and I.
You mentioned him, and my eyes lit up because I'm
so excited. He's hilarious. He's an Atlanta local joker, is
(04:20):
the way that he described himself to us, but I
think he's much more than that. So fucking funny. Give
it up for our guests, Manda.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
That's a hard record, right, I turned that up. I'm
a big hey, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is a man sandal, okay, a man against negativity, distributor
all love.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Please say the whole thing. Please say the whole thing
every time.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Oh sorry, sorry, I didn't I didn't take that. I
did ask you what you wanted me to say. You
didn't say none of that. You you were just like yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Because if I would have told you that, then I
couldn't have said the previous sentence.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I just I got you right.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Professional.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Everything is a setup, man.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I love that. I love this setup. I love the
whole thing. Let's let's not dilly or dally here, because
you came to us with a conspiracy theory that I
had never heard of. Bory, I don't know where you
fall in the in the this is a real thing
or not a real thing for you conversation.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I did not know. I did not, but it. I mean,
you're gonna say it. It makes sense to me, is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Oh, immediately you were like, hell, yeah, I'm bought in.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Bro, you know what I mean. Body parts, I've heard dancing.
I'm sorry, Well, yeah, let's let's get to it. And then,
because this is exciting, you said, my mama told.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Me a girl dying from doing the name with It
rock with It too.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Hard at a dance party and snapped her neck.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
For sure. So so I'm a little long winded, the
trap head. So the year.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The year's two thousand and seven, right, year two thousand
and seven. Congratulations, you just got suspended for wearing a
Snowman T shirt the GJU.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
They can't bannon it, they can't ban them.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You got suspend where they did band them from Atlanta
public schools.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You got suspended for wearing at the school after the
principal said stop warned you.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, she said, and you said, you can't ban the snowman.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You said, you can't ban the snowman, and she did
band it. She banned you instead.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then and then you had on either some rebox
soldiers or you had on that era of TEMs that
would be like one color and then another color on
the side, and then the tongue was that other color.
You remember, remember that they had They had about a
two year run. So Lean Wear the Rock with It
drops in two thousand and six. That's when a music
(06:54):
video come out. That's when they shine the so so depth.
And they dropped the remix before the original version the song,
which I thought was bizarre.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Oh with bow Wow. I liked that one.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh they think I like me so yeah, the Prince
of the Old Town exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
If you watch the line with the Rock with a
music video, they referenced that music video in the line
with a Rock with It, which don't make sense, but
all that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So in the video at the beginning, it's a girl.
She's doing the line with a Rock with It now,
putting people know what Lean with a Rock with It is.
It's a.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's a staple for people in the southeast. That made
its well across the country that now it's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It was everywhere.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It was big.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Now you would lean rock, lift your leg up, get
your knee up, bounce down with all your body. But
before it was just that. You will also lean your
net back all you was a guy who twists your leg.
Everybody wants to see an individual, And what happened was
that girl. That girl, she was trying to be herself
(07:56):
and she was in the music video. So the story
is that she was in the party and they're like, oh,
that's the girl from the music video. Y'all made rooms,
she about to show out, and then she snapped. She
didn't live with a rob with a snapback, snapped, her
neck died, and they folded up like America flood.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
And so from that point on, so you're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It was the girl from the girl in a cocktail
dresser might correct, No, No, this.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Like a child like so so.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Little child child was at a party.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So what they're saying is so great example, my mom
didn't necessarily what happened was but after that, everybody's like, hey,
when y'all doing the ling with a rock with it.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Don't move y'all neck because that's how y'all die. So
every so that was the big thing.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Like schools across the Atlanta was like, hey, y'all, I
know y'all like the dance and have fun, but we
gotta be safe. We gotta be safe when doing these moves.
And so you wasn't allowed to snap your neck. So
if you was like, let's see, if you're in the middle,
you're doing the linger with the rod with it, you
getting after it once you moved in that back, They're like, hey, all,
bets off man, we want to have a good day.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I love the idea that they they know they can't
stop you from doing the dance. They're like, listen, we're
not This dance is too goddamn contagious for us to
ask people to not do it. But let's just do
it safely. If you're gonna have sex.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Throw it in the air.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know what, I remember?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I forgot that they were yeah, yeah, that's when the
animations came.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And that's when that that next snap really found itself.
I would I would argue is that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
When people were snapping hard, you would really snap. I
used to wear a helmet.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Unrelated, but I mean just at the teen club. And
when I was in middle school, they used to the
teen club.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Shout the club bash people.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Was at the teen club. And so this is a
true thing. So before the next snap thing, it wasn't
about the animations. So before it was like who could
lean and rock the hardest? But after that exactly exactly,
but post that girl supposedly dying, that's when catching like, hey,
you gotta pretend like you're hearing the baseball you go,
(10:13):
you know what I'm saying. So it really advanced the
dance further by creating that constriction. It's like when you
don't cut.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
And as this evolution of safety created a space for
people to start to add a new innovation to the
ship for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
For out yep, that's when people was wearing them big shirts.
When people remember.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
My white tea and.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
A lot of reason there was remember pink tea. I
remember pink tea.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And you remember back in them days, if you was
a dude who was trying to look like attracted to women,
you wouldn't take your whole shirt off. You would just
take the bottom of the shirt and put it behind
your neck.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You know, And that was a little ostentatious for myself.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
But it was well, it was a smart move because
if you separate the arms from the they look bigger
than when they're oh yeah, like that's a big ass
arm when it ain't got no tour so attached to it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Did you ever have to try to did you ever
have to try to Harlem shake? But you would just
grab the bottom of your big T shirt.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
That's a good move. That's how That's how I was
getting down. Like I when I was in high school,
I was a dancer, baby, I was. I was, I
know it, I do it mountain. You were a mountain
dew chuck.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
And.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I ain't. I ain't lie.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
When I was coming up, I was jigging for real
like and then I had bonus points because I was
a fat dude, so like I had Yeah, I used
to do the worm. Whoa yeah yeah, people like, hey man,
go do the worm?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Am I doing? Yeah? I was.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
If a fat dude does the worm, that's that's the
party right there. There ain't taking somebody, Yeah, there's we
shut it down for that ship. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Lost in one battle, only lost one battle on my time.
How many battles like twelve I did. I'm not gonna lie.
I thought it'd be a bigger number. I was literally
expecting that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's a lot of dance battle. I'm not that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I'm not discrediting whether or not twelve is a big number.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Four dance battles. I'm saying that.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
When you go I never lost one dance battle in
my life, and it's one of twelve, it starts to
make it.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It feels. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I think you're playing. If it was fistfights, you would
be like, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
If you tell me that them boys from you got
served only only dance twelve.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Times, I'd be like, well, they're not gonna win. They're
not ready.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He wasn't a little saint in the world. Sometimes dance
battle that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And you comparing it to to professional athletes, as a
usually dancer, as I legally answer, that's a big number.
Think about it. Think about I would dancing twice a year,
one for one for the spring dance and one time
in the summertime when we had that party. After that,
I was retired the rest of the year. I got
Larry home.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's six years worth of battles, years with the battle.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Let me, let me, let me go on records saying
I was wrong. I'm out of line here, but but
go on, please bats not not twelve And that's as
you're saying it. I feel shame about it. I truly
I made a mistake.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You gotta get after it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I never even, I've never even I've been approached to
dance battle and I had to. I didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You had to wave it off. I'm good, Damn.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I would rather battle battle. I would rather run at
a tam of enemies with the sword, damn, as I
have to dance battle.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
One time I had to battle some twins whoa and
swear to God, the twins in my neighborhood. One of
them sat on the other one shoulders like a transformer
and they was like tut They was tutting together.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What and you did the worm though? Nah?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So that that one I won by I won by
disqualification because while I was dancing, I started crumping and
they started crumping, and they asked them to hit this
girl in the mouth, and then they come dance.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No more so than I won, damn.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
So that's like, uh, that's like in an in Naruto
when like the enemy hurts themselves and then he he
but he still finds his heroic story inside of it.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's all art, bro, Everything is expression, and sometimes we
express with our body and sometimes we express with our words,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And at that.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Time, I was crumping. I used to do the word.
I used to be able to spin on my head,
but only one spin.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I'm not gonna make fun of that. That's still a
success for me.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
You put a skull cap on here, like move back,
I listen.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I I my my child has now like started to
try to like do a front flip, like just rolling,
like she'll try to roll herself. And I was like
trying to demonstrate it for her and like put my
head on the ground and was gonna like flip my
body over and then thought, no, I'm not gonna do that,
like physically, I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
They didn't make that. They didn't make that big thud.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, it was it was enough where it was like, oh,
even just doing this on the ground, this is irresponsible,
and I ain't.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I can't funk around like that, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
What I mean? You now, you can't do it man,
sometimes we gotta leave.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
We gotta live young things for young people. I think
that's true. I'm saying dance battles.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
What was your oldest dance battle? How old were you?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I I think I was in high school. I lost
it because that dude did my signature move on me.
So I used to have a move called a detonator bro,
where where so I would legitimately I would like be
so I'll go down to their legs and I'll vibrate
up like that about it and then explode their head,
gonna start dancing real right, And so then it kind
(16:06):
of went it was ham but then I started overusing
so peoples.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Like, man, you always doing that move bro, like.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You in the last four of your twelve Dans battle.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, And then on the last battle, the dude detonated me.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Oh he's working already with a narrative that's been circulating
around this is.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, he prepared that.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, he knew you, was like, and he's like me
and Mando, we we're gonna face off, and I'm gonna
get him.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
For sure, because I had a lot of hate behind me.
Because you know, if you win, when you win long enough,
you become a villain man, and so once he detonated me,
all the momentum went to his hot side, and I
couldn't do nothing else man, And then I retired that day.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I gotta let it go. I used to be good man.
I used to do the worm.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I never The only thing I really didn't do was
I wasn't a big I'm a break dance guy. Yeah,
but I used to take though for Yeah, I was
just doing.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I was doing a lot of sideways, usher, slides and ship.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I knew, I knew it. I knew it. I knew it,
I knew. I don't know why I knew it, but
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I knew that. I knew.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I found this out.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I had a cousin similar.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Situation, similar situation.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Very light skin, a lot of sideways, like when the
when that video came out, was like the first one
I saw do it, the one where it comes across
the front.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, no, hear me when I say this, When that
video came out, I didn't sleep that that changed.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
That change which on everything for me.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Which one that when when usher first it might have
been when he first did that first started gliding.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, it was it wasn't you make me want to remember, Oh.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
He did do it? You would make me want to Yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Was wearing the black and red pants.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm gonna let y'all know something though. That boy, that
boy Usher was the first musician to wear Healey's. Right,
you go watch you don't have the problem.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
He came up and not only that, he went to
a party in them ships, you know what I mean.
Just he was like, I'm leaving my bitch, I'm going
this is my day of liberation out in the world,
and I am going in Healey's.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
The boys and.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I I got my I got my schoolly and uh huh.
It was so well lit in the music videos too.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, I don't mind. I didn't mind it being darker.
But but god, damn do I wish I wish they
would clear the floor so that me and my boys
could do a choreograd together, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Hula hoopia chain one time. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
do it around the neck. Gotta get out damn.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Well, let me ask you, because we're we have to
go to break that. We owe tax money, We've got
issues that we've got to solve here. But before we
go to break, man, how much of this is a
conspiracy theory you genuinely are brought into How much of
this is something you believe?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
All right?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So for a long time, I believe in it because
it's something that everybody, everybody said in Atlanta. But then
I got on Reddit and now a lot of people
are disparaging it. And then I find that across the
country it's different versions of a Lady don doing the dance.
So like it's like, I think, like there's I saw
(19:31):
a Texas version where somebody did it died South Dallas swagger.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You know what I'm saying, And so.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Are you not to the possibility that many people have
died dancing?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
That's real. That's because it's like, and.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't I don't love admitting this. I've hurt myself
at home dancing and that's that and that's but that's passive.
But I'm saying that's passively. That's why I'm washing the dishes.
I'm not even like in my room in front of
the mirror trying to you know what. I'm just like, yeah,
(20:04):
you know what I mean. It's listening to Tony.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
If funk around and have like a girl you're you're
deeply in love with watching you might go a little harder,
with a little more inner show.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm not gonna go softer. I'm not gonna go softer.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You got you gotta show what you can do. I
got what I'm saying. What what dance move?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's always for work, It's always for work, because I
got I got this situation where like, waist up, it's easy,
it's like it's it's it flows, it's natural, waist down
when the athleticism comes in to play. I'm not if
that's where it. So it's like I'll be you know,
(20:42):
I'm doing the dishes or unloading laundry or some ship,
and then I I feel that I'm slick, and then
I try to do some foot ship and that's where
it always goes.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Well, okay, so you you at one point were bought in,
but now you are you are uncertain of its validity.
Is that safe to say? Or are you definitively out
on the whole thing?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I think for fun, I'm a stand on it that
that girl die rest in peace. I love that.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I love that as a as an outvert for this
entire thing, that we let's go to break. Fuck it,
we don't have rest in peace to that girl who died.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Stand on your ship. We'll be back with more mandling more.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
My mama told me, no, welcome back to my mama
(21:45):
told me. The podcast where David didn't realize he was
introing after the drop, we are talking to mandal about
whether or not a young woman lost her life in
pursuit of the lean and the rocking with it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So so you you're standing on your ship, you're embracing
the possibility that this girl did die. When it first happened,
what was the what was the climate around your community?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
You're in high school, I presume, or you're middle you're
in middle school, in middle middle school, is everybody truly
terrified or they like, goofy, bitch, you should have you
should have held your next stronger.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
N We was twelve, they were twelve. This of the
kids start.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
We were twelve. So people thought it was hilarious. People
thought it was hilarious. Ain't gonna lie, which is bad.
People did, And I remember a lot of people kept
snapping their heads back to see if it's gonna happen
to them. But I think they was going through some
personal issues. But but a lot of them cats for
show was a lot of the people for show, like
parents and stuff. They was like, hey, man, y'all relax,
(22:56):
how y'all do that dance?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
You know it? It became like it was like when
people check their candy for drugs. You know. Yeah, yeah,
like people.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It was like monitoring the dances to make sure people
wasn't gonna snap their necks.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I got you it. It became enough that your parents
got involved.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was an assembly when we was at the pep rally.
We had pep rally in middle school for for our
basketball team, and the sixth gradest had to sit on
the flow because you know, seniority and so and so
we were sitting on the flow. It's this part where
like the band will play music at the end they
would be like scrubs, sit down. They will repeat that
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for us to sit down, because sixth gradest was scrubs
at the time. And I remember if you was a
tough sixth grader, you would stand up because you had
self esteem.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
And so what happened was in that moment standing I
sat down.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Brou I'm gonna be honest, man, I didn't want to
get I ain't want to get Donkey Kong.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's systemic.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I knew, and I don't mean that, aud but I
knew you sat down because of the way you told
the story where you're like if you were, but oh yeah,
you didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Say they was. They were standing.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Shout out to them individuals. They all they all did
some stuff. But look so while they dancing, everybody started dancing,
so people laying, rocking, people, people just jigging in general,
people doing the pool palace slash walking out whatever air
you subscribe to. And then the principal stopped the band.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Said hold on, hold on, hold on, d hold on now,
y'all better not be snapping them next. We don't want
to send nobody to the hospital. And he was dead serious.
But everybody laughed and laughed, and people laughed at the
idea of this lady dying and that more of us
could have died. You know, we thought that was so humorous.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Oh man, oh god, the idea that an adult, literally
the most senior adult in this still it is like,
wait a minute, this is irresponsible what you young people
might be venturing into.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I love that he had the heart to cut the
music I've never once in my life had something important
enough to say stop them. Yeah, not one.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, man, my principal orthopedic shoes. Man, he wasn't a
fun guy at all, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
He had.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
He had a lot of hangtime over the belt for
a shadow to who I become and then what he
and what he did when he when he stopped all
fun and said, y'all stop that. Y'all stopped that, and
then the band started the song tho. So it was
like a serious thing. It was a real serious thing, goddamn.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But honestly, people kept snapping their nets back and nobody died.
I ain't seen nobody else die from it.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Any injuries, any injuries.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I ain't gonna lie. I seen I seen somebody do
like the twist with the leg. I don't know. Do
y'all know who fabo? We don't disrespect us, man, don't
don't y'all from I know y'all from the midway. But
still watch your fucking mouth, tell your story. But you know,
do you know who is.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Talking?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
He used to stand up?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
He game and they drub He would have stood up,
and then they would have they would have jumped in
but he would have apt up. So he used to
do this thing where he would lift he would lift
his leg up to his side and he will wipe
off his feelies with his hand, right.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I remember that was a big move.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Like people will do that, and I've seen one person
do that and they lifted up with too much momentum
and fell over and but they lived.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
WHOA, Okay, yeah, I thought you were about to describe
a horrible knee injury, but no, this is just bad balance.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
That led to yeah, they slipped, and it was really bads.
Everybody like, na, hey, you can't do the moon, like fa,
no you ain't. And then for we were like he
think he fable and then like, nah, I guess I'm
not fable because because you know, because I'm pretty bad,
I'm not favor You know, it's only three years. So
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you do one dumb thing, you socially stunned yourself for
middle you know what I'm saying. So like from that
point on, it was like watch out for him, don't
let him dance.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Write that that is objectively not fay Bo for the
rest of this experience.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
And I love that sentiment because even if somebody could
do the move. They still not fable, you know what
I'm saying. No, nobody was in that gym, but for
one thing, for shortened that cat.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
If ever you thought, like a Scooby Doo episode, we're
gonna amass him and it's secretly gonna be fab it
ain't out.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, because in the song bet you Can't Do It
Like Me, it's a song called bet you Can't Do
It Like Me, which is a when they talk about
doing the central move like Fabo. So just I did
that Fabo was going around and teaching people the actual
move as if like a like a like a train,
you know, like if you get to a certain level
in karate, the master train to come teach you. And
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so the idea was that he didn't have the central move.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Oh, that Fabo Fabo had not been called down to
give the ultimate instruction.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
For sure. I know this might be a convoluted.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Well this is I think a wonderful transition into some
of the research that I did. And according to what
we were talking about, the the idea of the possibility
of this girl dying according to those haters over at Snopes,
and that's the only way that I see them there's
not enough evidence on records showing that a person did
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in fact die doing the dance to prove this to
be true. However, and this is a very important however,
one specific to this show. One of the things that
they point to as empirical evidence of, or rather the
lack of empirical evidence, is they say that if a
girl did in fact die, it would obviously make national
(29:08):
news from if a girl died from this dance move.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I think it's like, you know, how when when people
were like, this is my theory, you know, when everybody
was dying the COVID and people were like, oh, they're
saying everybody's dying the COVID, but it's really they had
the pre existing conditions they're dying of. I think that
would happen in reverse in terms of a dance related death,
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because like, if my kid died snapping, I would be like, no,
he fell down. In some athletic persons, I wouldn't want
to report it is like what happened. Like the cops
come in, they're like, what happened to death? That's crazy,
that's he died, you know, So you got to be
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like he fell down the stairs. It's like domestic of you.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
He died.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
He died trying to stop a fire. He didn't die dancing,
don't be honestly.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
He stood up at the assembly and.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I like I like the idea that somebody lying
about what they actually died from he was doing.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
He was praising Tor and they got to jump him
because they didn't want him to worship God. He was
really a saint, you know, I got I got it.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I got a question. I got a question. Who wrote
that article that you read?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well, it's uh, it's Snopes, I think, is a website
that sort of like prides itself on on unpacking the
possibility of these things being real. I don't know specifically,
although no, that's not true. There's a person named David
Mickelson who wrote it. And part of my issue, and
maybe this is what you're getting to is, I don't
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believe that David Michelson has a great understanding of what
does and doesn't get reported from the black black community.
The black children that are kidnapped and killed every day
that does not get reported and treated like national news.
So the possibility that a girl dying it easily could
go without being reported.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Bro, he he ain't got his head to the street,
he got it to the sidewalk, and with that, that
cat don't know what he's talking about. He wasn't in Atlanta.
Here's here's here's my opposed argument to that.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Why would? Why would? What's the motive for a line
about that?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You know what I'm saying, like, what does what does
the city of Atlanta get out of line about.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
This lady death?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
It's not a pointed pride, I imagine.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
And plus, if she was alive, she would have came
out by now and saying, hey, y'all, I'm a c NA.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Definitely, I'm definitely not dad.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
All those other kids from the internet. You find them,
the little boy drinking the juice like that, he plays football? Now,
Oh boy, this nigga ain't a cold sandwich. I just
looking at him. I was just looking at him on
Instagram two days ago. He still hang out.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
She would have pulled up.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
She she would have been divorced by now and would
have taught us like, hey, yo.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
She teaches dental hygienas said to Ride, I understand, Yeah, No,
where is she? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
She she doesn't exist because she passed. And I think
it's sick that it's people on trying trying to take
away her legacy like that, because that's somebody who means
a lot to this city and we're not going to allow,
you know, some some Reddit dude to try to disgrace that.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I love that you said that. Let's let's take it
a step further, because I actually thought that this. I
didn't know about this one of the things that you mentioned,
and it's not clearing, or at least wasn't clear when
I originally read the conspiracy is that she was a
part of the music video. This wasn't just a random
girl at a random part, but was in fact one
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of the people that you see featured in the music
video and in the conspiracy theory, or rather the the
debunking quote unquote of this conspiracy theory. They actually liken
it to a similar claim from nineteen eighty four featuring
our Boy David Alfonso Robero.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh no, yes, there were.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
There were claims in nineteen eighty four that Alfonso Robero,
who originally got his fame doing Michael Jackson impersonations in
that McDonald's career exactly Mike, that that Alfonso Robero actually
had died from attempting an impossible Michael Jackson move. That
like he had killed himself attempting to be Michael. That
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was a real rumor that was spreading in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Are you telling my brother from from one on one?
Uh No, that ain't that flex That's no.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
That's Alexander. Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I thought he was Michael James. No, no, no, although
gift that Alexander Michael he did do he did it
Michael Jackson film. I believe where he had b I
don't under saying maybe a real name with David what
you said the Latin.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Name Alfonso Roberto.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh, I thought y'all was saying flex flex. I would say, no, no, no,
Alvon Robero. You know from The Fresh Prince. He was
Carlton on The Fresh Prince.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Oh, the Carlton.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah, but he before he became Carlton got famous on
like truly almost like it's as close I think as
we could call viral back then. He became like a
viral sensation for impersonating Michael Jackson's dance moves in a
McDonald's commercial.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
That's hard, that's hard, man.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I think he was hacking the eighties. That's what everybody
was doing.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I mean, shout out of everybody hood impersonated Michael Jackson
man good career, Jason Weaver shot the Jason Weaver shout out,
Oh Alexander. They put here to put the way paint
on him.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
They made him look wild, oh man, that he made
a wild choice participating in that film.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
He flex made a lot of wild choices. Do you
remember Whole Boys in Outer Space?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Of course? I remember Homeboys and Outers? I got one
flax Sandate's that and snakes on a plane. Uh huh yeah.
Flex Sander.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
He was a rapper who his and his and his
security guard was Keen.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
And Thompson had a chain on the entire movie five
foot eight inch Keenan Thompson and he landed a plane.
He landed a plane that they was like, yo, who
could fly the plane? And Ken and Tims like I'll
fly it. And he goes to the fright. He was like,
I ain't never land no plane. I was like, why
do you do that? Kids? He figured it out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was like the third time we've talked about flex Alexander.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
On him and I pray to God it we do
it every episode.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I think, don't they say in Seinfeld, there's secretly like
a Superman reference in every like scene.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
That's what we're Flex Alexander.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
And come on, baby, there there's gonna be a Flex
Alexander in every little bit of this.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a I'm gonna get
a Homeboys and Outer Space T shirt.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I please, let's let's wear matching T shirts for the
first live.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Oh man, that's alright, that is amazing. I do that.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
One thing about that boy Flex over his twenty year career,
Rather he was Kyla Pratt Dad.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Rather he was dribbling the basketball. That boy kept a
shape of Denny.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I was just gonna say he had a Crystal one
on them. Yeah, he had a j Road before Jalen Room.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah right, he kept a Chris one on he was.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
He was overshadowed by Steve Harvey's wig in a way
that he'll never get the same credit that he deserves
because we spent years, right, we spent years praising Steve
Harvey for this lie. Meanwhile, Flex Alexander was sitting there
beautiful the whole time, and we ain't we ain't say nothing.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
You know, who else had amazing hair. Who never gets
his due? Who's that fucking Martin? Hmmm, oh, okay, that's
Martin's hair was always beautiful, clean, faith so well and
it was natural and I feel like nobody ever brings
it up. Also, I'm pretty sure the first person to
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wear a Pelly Pelly on television.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh that not that may be very true. In season
two we had the Pelly Pelly with the belt Fox.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Fox was making a bold choice with Martin when they
made it, so we were gonna see some fashion that that.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You know, the networks weren't.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Ready for the first Pelly Pelly and the greatest shape
of that's good.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
That man had a great career.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
No, he did it. We can't ever, we can never
take away.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
And he told people to wash their ass. It's he
did it. Super important. People are half to do that.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
People have to if you don't get rung the whole life,
get out of way. It's like going to bed lay
Oh yeah, not.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Cleaning up your room.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Make sure the inside is clean and then the outside.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I think I think this is this is huge for us.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
This is important because one of the things that along
with liking it to to Alfonso Roberto and a number
of sort of like weird conspiratorial deaths that were said
to happen with like semi famous people in the media.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
One of the things that that then drove me to
ask is is there any evidence of people dying from dancing?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Right? Like? Do we have any actual evidence? And I
got one?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Oh, let's start with yours, because I actually this is exciting.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
So so all right, y'all, remember all right, I'm sorry,
I get a little along with it. Bro, I'm a
little socially in that, y'all. Remember you're nailing it.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, I think you're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Thank y'all, man, I really, I really thank y'all for
letting me. This is the biggest thing that ever happens.
So so look y'all remember in like maybe it's like
nineteen ninety nine. Congratulations, it's Saturday, so your mama to
let you stay past step past nine thirty.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
It's a dude who come on the TV.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Now he got a blindfold, somebody it's ABC, somebody shoot
a gun and if he catched the bullet in his mouth, y'all,
remember that dude. I it used to be on a
Magic Show. He used to catch a bullet in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
He spit in the place. Oh are you talking.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
About street magic? Street magic?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, but he did it on the stage now on
that same show. Right on the same show, they would
show previews to a news segment where these people was
dancing at arend reception and then you can watch you
can find this on YouTube. They danced that a reception
and the flow gave out at a wedding and a
bunch of them casts down.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Whoa, I think, I.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, yeah, but he didn't die. A bunch of them.
It was like a whole wedding party. A lot of
them die. They was doing the east Side stump.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I made up the last part.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
I don't remember the magic show you're talking about, but
I one hundred percent remember watching twenty twenty with my mom,
which was very much a thing we were doing in
nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
On Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Oh hell yeah, Where else was I going? This lady
got twenty twenty on I'm in the house.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
It's a good time. It's a good time.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
But I remember watching an episode about exactly what you're describing.
These people falling through the floor.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
They was jigg I wonder what record it was? You
know what I'm saying, Like, imagine what record made y'all
stump the flow up.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Oh, I hope it was the Millennium.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I hope it was.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
It was fucking I hope it was Storm by Kurk Franklin.
That's all. Dang they get they got to go see
him that day.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That was a song. Right.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
If you're praising Jesus and then you get to meet
him immediately after, that's pretty tight.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, that's all right, man.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
If they was, if they was all Kirk Franklin church outfits,
y'all remember that when Kirk Franklin was like, Yo.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
We got we gotta figure out a way to get
the youth in the church. We're gonna wear Jeanie. Yep.
You know that was like a big thing in like
ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
He had a bubble coat too.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
That was before he got buff and and uh and
also made up a new hairline for himself. He was
more at peace back then into that though.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I meant making up a new airline. I was on
I'll tell you, I'll tell you the truth. I'll tell
you the truth. I was on television. Once they hit
me with the Beijing I felt incredible. Y.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I'm gonna be honest with you. You kids janed up one
day that first day. It's a good time. Now, once
you take the shower, once you take that shower, you
see the mistakes he makes.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Problem, that's true.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
The shower does reveal all Beijing area.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah, that's that's my issue with it is is I
I love the experience and for a TV appearance that
makes perfect sense. But truly the next day makes you
feel like the ugliest monster you ever because that's a
fresh haircut and it ain't I.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Kind of the house. It's white out for barbers.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
They got one. They got one at my barbershop. Nobody
ever uses it. This guy, he got it, and I've
never seen any but I always I want to I
want to look good. I want the whole I want
the whole situation.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Hit up that once you once you start, once you
start putting Beijing on that skull, you put on that
skull or you put on that jaw line, that's when
you never come in.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Back, start singing R and B. Yeah, I think Carlos
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Even face those shoe Pauls. She looked like one of
the brothers. Bro.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I remember one time, I was at a smoothie place
you do had Beijing, and his hairline started leaking because
he was sweat up. And then and then the Beijing
dripped into the smooth and he gave it to a
customer whoa yep, yeah, fuck.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Damn, I didn't. It's crazy because you said, I didn't
know that you could work at a smoothie restaurant and
have the money for Beijing. How much does it cost?
Speaker 4 (43:33):
I don't know, but but every literally everywhere I've ever been,
they're giving that out for free at barbershops.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Pay for it.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, Like I said, they got the gun at my barbershop.
I've never seen anybody.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Oh you're talking about the gun situation. Most of the time.
It's a little air brush squeegee type joint that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
That's how it is in Hollywood. When I got Beijing,
that's how it was. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
I think with the gun, they'll charge you that. That's
not that giving away. That's too much Beijing that one time?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Just break?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Can they giving them away by the gap?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
You know you can't. I jump like a wild punch.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
That's like that's like mounting your own TV. You could
do it.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah, now, don't do that. Call it, call it, call
it a different man to come mount your TV for you.
Don't don't do that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
They put the business card on your head to make
sure they get the lines right.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
So, so you brought up this example of these people
dancing through the floor. I dare to ask you all,
and this is exciting. Have either of you heard of
the dancing Plague of fifteen eighteen?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
You know that I have?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
You have?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I have? I bring it up all the time.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Just the other day, I was saying, remember that dancing text.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I was like, you, guys, that's just wow.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Well, well, for the those that don't know, and Bory,
I know you're already versed in all.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Of this shit.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
But for those that don't know, the dancing Plague of
fifteen eighteen apparently involved more than one hundred people dancing
themselves uncontrollably to their own deaths.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
That's crazy. Why they do that?
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
So that's I love that you're asking that. And the
truth is, no one still to this day, fully knows
what the fuck happened. But apparently I'll break the whole
story down for y'all. Apparently there was this lady fro
Frau tro fe who leaves her house. One day, she
goes to the city square and then she just starts dancing.
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She's in Straussburg, what is now modern day France. Right,
she goes to the middle of Strausburg. She just starts dancing.
She dances so long and so hard that eventually she
passes out from heat stroke an exhaustion. But then everyone
assumes like, all right, fraw got that shit out her system,
She's gonna go do whatever the fuck frows be one elsewhere.
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But the next day she shows back up, does the
exact same thing again the next day, to the point
that peep other people start joining in and they start
dancing alongside her, almost on some cult this ship, until
four hundred people are gathered at a time dancing with
this bitch.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Frown.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I think I know what happened, Okay, tell me so
back then, this is when folks just started dance.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Folks. So, I think it's two ways you can look
at this.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Either A they hold on what this girl doing, and
then somebody else started like, no, it's hard, man, we
got to keep up with this and that joy that
endorphins outweigh food, water, shelter, and the willingness to live right.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Or oh he's going for more, or if they.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Had limited range, they had limited dance moves. So I
think back in them times it was about who could
do the better dance move, but who could dance alone?
You get what I'm saying, Like the marathon came before
the sprint.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
It was quantity not quality.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is well.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Let me say I love these I love these suggestions
of what happened. In fact, the suggestion that that dancing
was created just shy of fifteen eighteen is is maybe
my favorite piece of information that I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Anybody before that. Before that, they was playing the music
standing still. Man, I have no proof. I have no proof.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
People started jinging and then people start dying in a two.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
So what's crazy is that that even what you're suggesting
is not that much more absurd than what they landed
on all the way back then. A lot of people, naturally,
you guys are smart enough to know they blamed the devil.
That was the first thing that came to mind was
them being like, well, is the devil's doing the frau
obviously as a sinner, and so are these other people,
(48:05):
and the devil is making them do that, And in fact,
they would often refer to this lure of Saint Vitus Vetus.
I don't know how to pronounce stuff, a Sicilian saint
Martyred in three oh three, a d who was said
to curse centers with uncontrollable dancing mania if angered.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
That's what his power is.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
Yeah, he like, I guess he died and he was like,
if I get mad, you have to date dance crazy.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
He like the first hypno hip. What's it called? Yeah,
he the first one of those. Not a magician, bro,
just like a what do y'all dude?
Speaker 4 (48:47):
So So the other thing that they point to as
a potential explanation, this is not what people were saying
back then. This is what what people have now sort
of at least suggested, might be the conclusion that some
also believe it was a result of effects of psychotropic
mold known as ear God that basically grows on damp
(49:07):
stalks of rye and then could produce a chemical similar
to LSD.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
That's probably the real answer.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
How many days was she eating that mold?
Speaker 4 (49:17):
I don't think she was eating it. I don't think
she was like having a big.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Old I'm taking LSD it doesn't last for days.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yeah, well that's they're saying that, like, or at least
the suggestion feels like it's saying like the rye, it
had been an inhalent all over the city type shit.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Oh and then they collectively were Yeah, everybody's got high
off this LSD in their homes and across the city,
and now they're dancing in Times Square.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
BORI doesn't that I'm wrong with that one?
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Tell me why I want to hear both reasons?
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Why I every time? Because I read I was reading
something about there was some that shit that happened in
like Switzerland too, where they was like the town was
collectively on LSD. Have you ever been on like psychotropic
drugs around other people? Your experiences are not at all unified. Mmmm,
(50:16):
it's not like it's not like that. It's like everybody's
kind of going through their own shit. So to get
four hundred people who are tripping to be involved in
this like group hallucination, it's like I called Shenanigan.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
Well, here's what I'll say is that you are presuming
that the people who are not dancing are not high
as well. And there could be an argument that like
everybody was high, but everybody was having different experiences. And
those were just four hundred people who had a line
in terms of like, yo, we're dance high, motherfuckers, versus
(50:53):
these other people who are like sit at home with
their arms folded and think about anything else.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Weird happened in the down that day.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Oh, there's not a lot of evidence of that. I
think they were real focused on the dancing.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
See then No, if it was like four hundred people
were dancing, two hundred people decided it's fun to steal
from seven to eleven, six hundred people like did mouth stuff,
like were blowing each other, then I would be like, oh,
that makes sense, Like everybody's kind of acting out of character.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
I got you.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
But you know what, nobody invented mouth stuff. Therefore it's
it's unlikely that this was the thing that was happening.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
I don't think that. I think mouth stuff goes back
as far as people go back.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
You think mouth stuff goes further than dancing.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
I don't think. I think people have been putting it
in their mouths since they've been putting food in there. Yeah,
I think we have always put genitals in mouths always.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
Hell Yeah, Mandel you are you're you're on the pro
At this point they David took the con where explain
to me why you believe this?
Speaker 1 (51:58):
That just sounded like geeker activity, And so I'm gonna
go with that. That sounds like some of the geeked up.
Maybe the bread, maybe the RYE mixed in with the
LSD make you want to jig a little bit. You know,
I've seen plenty of people jig on a lot of things,
and maybe and maybe today.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Was LSD, LSD and rye. Baby.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah, you put that bread with the LSD, you on
that dance floor. You know, it's just what it is.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
So one of the the most interesting explanations that I
found that I think actually is going to be a
great connector back to this original conversation is the reference
to something called collective psychosis, which argues that cultural influence, religion,
supernatural beliefs, gossip right, might lead people to enter a
(52:48):
disassociative mental state in which their normal consciousness is disabled,
causing them to carry out irrational physical acts.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
But this was in France, right, why didn't they all
start kissing?
Speaker 4 (53:01):
Well, that that's rational, that that's literally their thing. So
I think what they're saying is the irrational would not
be to kiss, but to dance wildly until you're that Literally.
They described some of these people as like being bloody
from from having danced all day for two months.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
To wait, you didn't say too month.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Oh I'm sorry, Yes, this lasted for two months.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
I've been getting nigh this old time. I forgot. So
you said they for two months? That's right? Well that yeah,
that's that's a way of thinking about it. Damn that's
crazy that that is.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
And I guess where it connects me back where I
start to think about the original conspiracy theory, right is
I think about this girl and how like Snopes and
these other people that claim it's not real would say, well,
it's unlikely that somebody would want to dance that hard
or give that much energy to it and that would
eventually snap their neck whatever, whatever, whatever. But I think
(54:13):
we're really talking about like this this cultural psychosis that
we could all find ourselves in. It's just us trying
to one up each other and get further into sort
of like a place of value with our dance moves,
with our bodies, and that could force a person exactly, Yeah,
(54:34):
a person would suddenly kill themselves on on some just
desperately wanting to be a part of this cultural imprint.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I feel like I've definitely been in a party and
the time is right and the lights are hitting, and
I'm like, I would kill to be the best dancer. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. I felt that. I felt
that before.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
I feel you.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
My only issue though, is that it was too much
that stuff. You get what I'm saying at some point. Well,
what I'm surprised is that they didn't die without food
and water before too much.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
Think that what they're saying is that that's over the
course of two months, one hundred people died. So I
don't think that literally everybody that started with FRAU made
it all the way through two months. In fact, I
read something that said that it was something like fifteen
people a day dropping dead from whatever this was. So
(55:31):
I think they started off dancing and then some people
would drop out, some people get tired and not come back.
But over the course of two months, this dancing never stopped.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
Well, people got to chill out with that.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
That's what I got, and honestly, I think that's the
best way for us to put us stamp on this.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
I truly don't know.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
A better way for us to end this conversation with
just hey, people got to chill out out with that.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Look, if you hate cops just because the next time
you get in trouble, call on crackhead, call him up. Manna,
they're gonna dance today die.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
They'll dance to die because they're on psychotropic drugs. Huh, Mandel,
could you tell the people where they can find you
and what cool shit you have going on?
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Man, don't find me fire youre lord to save you. Man,
Thank y'all for having me.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Bro. Oh, that's not what you're I just need though.
I love that.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
That's what you were about to go into is an
acceptance speech.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
But yeah, I'm about to say thank you. Shout out
to Hot Comics Studios. So let me record here.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Oh way to find me? Oh I gotta I got
an Instagram? Yeah, I got an Instagram? Dumb Mandel man? Yeah,
follow that follow or don't know either one?
Speaker 4 (56:51):
Follow Mandel I was. I was telling him before the podcast.
One of my favorite clips of comedy I've seen in
years is something he posted. A very funny joke. He
told so follow Mandel. He's hilarious, Bory. You want to
tell the people where they can find you what you
got going on?
Speaker 2 (57:08):
Uh yeah, December third, I'm gonna be at the Crocodile
in Seattle, and December fourth, I'm gonna be headlining Helium
in Portland, and then you know, oh, November twenty fourth,
I'm gonna be headlining the Comedy Works in Denver. My
little brother's gonna be there. He's pretty fun.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Hell yeah does he wait he does comedy now, No.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
He'll just be hanging out. It's just jellous. Fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
Well, go Ze, Bory goes Lee Boy's little brother. If
you're in Denver, and as always, you can follow me
at Langston Kerman on all platforms. And if you want
to send us your drops, your conspiracy theories, your bullshit,
send it to my mama pod at gmail dot com.
We would love to hear from you. Okay, that's it,
by bitch.
Speaker 5 (58:06):
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Speaker 2 (58:12):
All Koala bears are racist.
Speaker 5 (58:17):
The host of lair for host and money, our ships
and men of turkey stuff.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
I can't tell me go
That video makes me sad because growing up, I thought
that's what adult life was gonna be.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Like, I thought that about I thought that about everything.
I've only cheated on women because unmated it sounds great.
It's hectic, It's hectic as fuck. He's never like, oh,
I'm getting all these text messages warm at work. He
never sings about that.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Mark bro I thought me and my own was getting
to escalade going to the club and started jig yup
the whole time for Yearly Club. Yeah, you can't even
it's so much hookah smoke. Now you trying to you
trying to get you, try to get some movement going.
You're gonna have some respiratory issues. Man, it's sick.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, it's ain't what they promised is.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
That's for damn Shrek chips in your.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Quality, racist, the the money, turkey stuff I can't tell me.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets
of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And we finally work to prove what the fuck is
wrong with Terry. Because I don't know whose team is on,
not mine, not mine.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I think I think the only people that could truly
claim Terry Crews as a teammate. A like those muscle
beach men, you know what I mean, Like it ain't black,
it ain't white, it's it's it's oily titty men.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Or other people who like agree, people who are into
saying they're addicted to porn. I don't trust. Yeah, what
I don't trust you're addicted to porn. We all are
grow up, we got climate change. You're worried about jerking.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
What do you think you're special because you because you've
gotten to the nooks and crannies of porn hub Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I bet in the nooks and crannies. He's not even
in the nooks and crannies.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I bet my.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If we're looking for search terms, I beat Terry Crews
every day. He's never.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He's never.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Here's what I like about what you're saying is that
I do think that that might be what haunts him
the most, is that he's sitting there and he's basically
just looking up missionary sex on these fucking websites. And
it's like, well, I'm addicted to that, then I'm a
piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That is, you are a piece of ship because I'm exploratory.
I get so deep on there sometimes I'm like, I
don't even know if this is porn. I think this
is just too chubby Filipino ladies foot range.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And that's what porn is for, because you're not you're
you're not going to be able to access that with
a family committed whatever. Bullshit that we're all finding ourselves.
That's what I'm saying. I'm on pornography to do stuff
I can't do in real life. And Terry Crews is
looking up a black lady who looks pretty close to
white with a fade, and that's his fucking wife, you.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Like he's literally looking for his wife, but he's doing
it just the skew of his wife.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And he's like, oh no, this is a sin. This
is He's looking up like do you remember KP and
envy looking up? He's looking up envy, envy nude. I'm
David Borie.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, I'm Likeston, Kerman and Boyd. We come in hot.
We came in hot today. We we didn't have a
lot to stand on, and we we milked it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
For all it was worth. Huh.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think we did a good job. I think that
was pretty good for not having a joke, Critton.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I thought we nailed it straight up.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I mean, I say, God, well, you know who always
has a joke written? You know who's never unprepared is
our guest today. He's so fucking funny. I think we
talked about having him on the podcast, you and and I.
You mentioned him, and my eyes lit up because I'm
so excited. He's hilarious. He's an Atlanta local joker, is
(04:20):
the way that he described himself to us, but I
think he's much more than that. So fucking funny. Give
it up for our guests, Manda.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
That's a hard record, right, I turned that up. I'm
a big hey, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is a man sandal, okay, a man against negativity, distributor
all love.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Please say the whole thing. Please say the whole thing
every time.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Oh sorry, sorry, I didn't I didn't take that. I
did ask you what you wanted me to say. You
didn't say none of that. You you were just like yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Because if I would have told you that, then I
couldn't have said the previous sentence.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I just I got you right.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Professional.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Everything is a setup, man.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I love that. I love this setup. I love the
whole thing. Let's let's not dilly or dally here, because
you came to us with a conspiracy theory that I
had never heard of. Bory, I don't know where you
fall in the in the this is a real thing
or not a real thing for you conversation.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I did not know. I did not, but it. I mean,
you're gonna say it. It makes sense to me, is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Oh, immediately you were like, hell, yeah, I'm bought in.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Bro, you know what I mean. Body parts, I've heard dancing.
I'm sorry, Well, yeah, let's let's get to it. And then,
because this is exciting, you said, my mama told.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Me a girl dying from doing the name with It
rock with It too.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Hard at a dance party and snapped her neck.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
For sure. So so I'm a little long winded, the
trap head. So the year.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The year's two thousand and seven, right, year two thousand
and seven. Congratulations, you just got suspended for wearing a
Snowman T shirt the GJU.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
They can't bannon it, they can't ban them.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You got suspend where they did band them from Atlanta
public schools.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You got suspended for wearing at the school after the
principal said stop warned you.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, she said, and you said, you can't ban the snowman.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You said, you can't ban the snowman, and she did
band it. She banned you instead.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then and then you had on either some rebox
soldiers or you had on that era of TEMs that
would be like one color and then another color on
the side, and then the tongue was that other color.
You remember, remember that they had They had about a
two year run. So Lean Wear the Rock with It
drops in two thousand and six. That's when a music
(06:54):
video come out. That's when they shine the so so depth.
And they dropped the remix before the original version the song,
which I thought was bizarre.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Oh with bow Wow. I liked that one.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh they think I like me so yeah, the Prince
of the Old Town exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
If you watch the line with the Rock with a
music video, they referenced that music video in the line
with a Rock with It, which don't make sense, but
all that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So in the video at the beginning, it's a girl.
She's doing the line with a Rock with It now,
putting people know what Lean with a Rock with It is.
It's a.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's a staple for people in the southeast. That made
its well across the country that now it's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It was everywhere.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It was big.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Now you would lean rock, lift your leg up, get
your knee up, bounce down with all your body. But
before it was just that. You will also lean your
net back all you was a guy who twists your leg.
Everybody wants to see an individual, And what happened was
that girl. That girl, she was trying to be herself
(07:56):
and she was in the music video. So the story
is that she was in the party and they're like, oh,
that's the girl from the music video. Y'all made rooms,
she about to show out, and then she snapped. She
didn't live with a rob with a snapback, snapped, her
neck died, and they folded up like America flood.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
And so from that point on, so you're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It was the girl from the girl in a cocktail
dresser might correct, No, No, this.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Like a child like so so.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Little child child was at a party.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So what they're saying is so great example, my mom
didn't necessarily what happened was but after that, everybody's like, hey,
when y'all doing the ling with a rock with it.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Don't move y'all neck because that's how y'all die. So
every so that was the big thing.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Like schools across the Atlanta was like, hey, y'all, I
know y'all like the dance and have fun, but we
gotta be safe. We gotta be safe when doing these moves.
And so you wasn't allowed to snap your neck. So
if you was like, let's see, if you're in the middle,
you're doing the linger with the rod with it, you
getting after it once you moved in that back, They're like, hey, all,
bets off man, we want to have a good day.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I love the idea that they they know they can't
stop you from doing the dance. They're like, listen, we're
not This dance is too goddamn contagious for us to
ask people to not do it. But let's just do
it safely. If you're gonna have sex.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Throw it in the air.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know what, I remember?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I forgot that they were yeah, yeah, that's when the
animations came.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And that's when that that next snap really found itself.
I would I would argue is that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
When people were snapping hard, you would really snap. I
used to wear a helmet.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Unrelated, but I mean just at the teen club. And
when I was in middle school, they used to the
teen club.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Shout the club bash people.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Was at the teen club. And so this is a
true thing. So before the next snap thing, it wasn't
about the animations. So before it was like who could
lean and rock the hardest? But after that exactly exactly,
but post that girl supposedly dying, that's when catching like, hey,
you gotta pretend like you're hearing the baseball you go,
(10:13):
you know what I'm saying. So it really advanced the
dance further by creating that constriction. It's like when you
don't cut.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
And as this evolution of safety created a space for
people to start to add a new innovation to the
ship for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
For out yep, that's when people was wearing them big shirts.
When people remember.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
My white tea and.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
A lot of reason there was remember pink tea. I
remember pink tea.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And you remember back in them days, if you was
a dude who was trying to look like attracted to women,
you wouldn't take your whole shirt off. You would just
take the bottom of the shirt and put it behind
your neck.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You know, And that was a little ostentatious for myself.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
But it was well, it was a smart move because
if you separate the arms from the they look bigger
than when they're oh yeah, like that's a big ass
arm when it ain't got no tour so attached to it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Did you ever have to try to did you ever
have to try to Harlem shake? But you would just
grab the bottom of your big T shirt.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
That's a good move. That's how That's how I was
getting down. Like I when I was in high school,
I was a dancer, baby, I was. I was, I
know it, I do it mountain. You were a mountain
dew chuck.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
And.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I ain't. I ain't lie.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
When I was coming up, I was jigging for real
like and then I had bonus points because I was
a fat dude, so like I had Yeah, I used
to do the worm. Whoa yeah yeah, people like, hey man,
go do the worm?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Am I doing? Yeah? I was.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
If a fat dude does the worm, that's that's the
party right there. There ain't taking somebody, Yeah, there's we
shut it down for that ship. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Lost in one battle, only lost one battle on my time.
How many battles like twelve I did. I'm not gonna lie.
I thought it'd be a bigger number. I was literally
expecting that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's a lot of dance battle. I'm not that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I'm not discrediting whether or not twelve is a big number.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Four dance battles. I'm saying that.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
When you go I never lost one dance battle in
my life, and it's one of twelve, it starts to
make it.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It feels. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I think you're playing. If it was fistfights, you would
be like, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
If you tell me that them boys from you got
served only only dance twelve.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Times, I'd be like, well, they're not gonna win. They're
not ready.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He wasn't a little saint in the world. Sometimes dance
battle that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And you comparing it to to professional athletes, as a
usually dancer, as I legally answer, that's a big number.
Think about it. Think about I would dancing twice a year,
one for one for the spring dance and one time
in the summertime when we had that party. After that,
I was retired the rest of the year. I got
Larry home.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's six years worth of battles, years with the battle.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Let me, let me, let me go on records saying
I was wrong. I'm out of line here, but but
go on, please bats not not twelve And that's as
you're saying it. I feel shame about it. I truly
I made a mistake.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You gotta get after it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I never even, I've never even I've been approached to
dance battle and I had to. I didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You had to wave it off. I'm good, Damn.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I would rather battle battle. I would rather run at
a tam of enemies with the sword, damn, as I
have to dance battle.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
One time I had to battle some twins whoa and
swear to God, the twins in my neighborhood. One of
them sat on the other one shoulders like a transformer
and they was like tut They was tutting together.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What and you did the worm though? Nah?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So that that one I won by I won by
disqualification because while I was dancing, I started crumping and
they started crumping, and they asked them to hit this
girl in the mouth, and then they come dance.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No more so than I won, damn.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
So that's like, uh, that's like in an in Naruto
when like the enemy hurts themselves and then he he
but he still finds his heroic story inside of it.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's all art, bro, Everything is expression, and sometimes we
express with our body and sometimes we express with our words,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And at that.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Time, I was crumping. I used to do the word.
I used to be able to spin on my head,
but only one spin.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I'm not gonna make fun of that. That's still a
success for me.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
You put a skull cap on here, like move back,
I listen.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I I my my child has now like started to
try to like do a front flip, like just rolling,
like she'll try to roll herself. And I was like
trying to demonstrate it for her and like put my
head on the ground and was gonna like flip my
body over and then thought, no, I'm not gonna do that,
like physically, I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
They didn't make that. They didn't make that big thud.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, it was it was enough where it was like, oh,
even just doing this on the ground, this is irresponsible,
and I ain't.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I can't funk around like that, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
What I mean? You now, you can't do it man,
sometimes we gotta leave.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
We gotta live young things for young people. I think
that's true. I'm saying dance battles.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
What was your oldest dance battle? How old were you?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I I think I was in high school. I lost
it because that dude did my signature move on me.
So I used to have a move called a detonator bro,
where where so I would legitimately I would like be
so I'll go down to their legs and I'll vibrate
up like that about it and then explode their head,
gonna start dancing real right, And so then it kind
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of went it was ham but then I started overusing
so peoples.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Like, man, you always doing that move bro, like.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You in the last four of your twelve Dans battle.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, And then on the last battle, the dude detonated me.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Oh he's working already with a narrative that's been circulating
around this is.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, he prepared that.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, he knew you, was like, and he's like me
and Mando, we we're gonna face off, and I'm gonna
get him.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
For sure, because I had a lot of hate behind me.
Because you know, if you win, when you win long enough,
you become a villain man, and so once he detonated me,
all the momentum went to his hot side, and I
couldn't do nothing else man, And then I retired that day.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I gotta let it go. I used to be good man.
I used to do the worm.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I never The only thing I really didn't do was
I wasn't a big I'm a break dance guy. Yeah,
but I used to take though for Yeah, I was
just doing.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I was doing a lot of sideways, usher, slides and ship.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I knew, I knew it. I knew it. I knew it,
I knew. I don't know why I knew it, but
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I knew that. I knew.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I found this out.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I had a cousin similar.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Situation, similar situation.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Very light skin, a lot of sideways, like when the
when that video came out, was like the first one
I saw do it, the one where it comes across
the front.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, no, hear me when I say this, When that
video came out, I didn't sleep that that changed.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
That change which on everything for me.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Which one that when when usher first it might have
been when he first did that first started gliding.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, it was it wasn't you make me want to remember, Oh.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
He did do it? You would make me want to Yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Was wearing the black and red pants.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm gonna let y'all know something though. That boy, that
boy Usher was the first musician to wear Healey's. Right,
you go watch you don't have the problem.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
He came up and not only that, he went to
a party in them ships, you know what I mean.
Just he was like, I'm leaving my bitch, I'm going
this is my day of liberation out in the world,
and I am going in Healey's.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
The boys and.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I I got my I got my schoolly and uh huh.
It was so well lit in the music videos too.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, I don't mind. I didn't mind it being darker.
But but god, damn do I wish I wish they
would clear the floor so that me and my boys
could do a choreograd together, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Hula hoopia chain one time. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
do it around the neck. Gotta get out damn.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Well, let me ask you, because we're we have to
go to break that. We owe tax money, We've got
issues that we've got to solve here. But before we
go to break, man, how much of this is a
conspiracy theory you genuinely are brought into How much of
this is something you believe?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
All right?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So for a long time, I believe in it because
it's something that everybody, everybody said in Atlanta. But then
I got on Reddit and now a lot of people
are disparaging it. And then I find that across the
country it's different versions of a Lady don doing the dance.
So like it's like, I think, like there's I saw
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a Texas version where somebody did it died South Dallas swagger.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You know what I'm saying, And so.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Are you not to the possibility that many people have
died dancing?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
That's real. That's because it's like, and.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't I don't love admitting this. I've hurt myself
at home dancing and that's that and that's but that's passive.
But I'm saying that's passively. That's why I'm washing the dishes.
I'm not even like in my room in front of
the mirror trying to you know what. I'm just like, yeah,
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you know what I mean. It's listening to Tony.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
If funk around and have like a girl you're you're
deeply in love with watching you might go a little harder,
with a little more inner show.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm not gonna go softer. I'm not gonna go softer.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You got you gotta show what you can do. I
got what I'm saying. What what dance move?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's always for work, It's always for work, because I
got I got this situation where like, waist up, it's easy,
it's like it's it's it flows, it's natural, waist down
when the athleticism comes in to play. I'm not if
that's where it. So it's like I'll be you know,
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I'm doing the dishes or unloading laundry or some ship,
and then I I feel that I'm slick, and then
I try to do some foot ship and that's where
it always goes.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Well, okay, so you you at one point were bought in,
but now you are you are uncertain of its validity.
Is that safe to say? Or are you definitively out
on the whole thing?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I think for fun, I'm a stand on it that
that girl die rest in peace. I love that.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I love that as a as an outvert for this
entire thing, that we let's go to break. Fuck it,
we don't have rest in peace to that girl who died.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Stand on your ship. We'll be back with more mandling more.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
My mama told me, no, welcome back to my mama
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told me. The podcast where David didn't realize he was
introing after the drop, we are talking to mandal about
whether or not a young woman lost her life in
pursuit of the lean and the rocking with it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So so you you're standing on your ship, you're embracing
the possibility that this girl did die. When it first happened,
what was the what was the climate around your community?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
You're in high school, I presume, or you're middle you're
in middle school, in middle middle school, is everybody truly
terrified or they like, goofy, bitch, you should have you
should have held your next stronger.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
N We was twelve, they were twelve. This of the
kids start.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
We were twelve. So people thought it was hilarious. People
thought it was hilarious. Ain't gonna lie, which is bad.
People did, And I remember a lot of people kept
snapping their heads back to see if it's gonna happen
to them. But I think they was going through some
personal issues. But but a lot of them cats for
show was a lot of the people for show, like
parents and stuff. They was like, hey, man, y'all relax,
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how y'all do that dance?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
You know it? It became like it was like when
people check their candy for drugs. You know. Yeah, yeah,
like people.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It was like monitoring the dances to make sure people
wasn't gonna snap their necks.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I got you it. It became enough that your parents
got involved.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was an assembly when we was at the pep rally.
We had pep rally in middle school for for our
basketball team, and the sixth gradest had to sit on
the flow because you know, seniority and so and so
we were sitting on the flow. It's this part where
like the band will play music at the end they
would be like scrubs, sit down. They will repeat that
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for us to sit down, because sixth gradest was scrubs
at the time. And I remember if you was a
tough sixth grader, you would stand up because you had
self esteem.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
And so what happened was in that moment standing I
sat down.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Brou I'm gonna be honest, man, I didn't want to
get I ain't want to get Donkey Kong.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's systemic.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I knew, and I don't mean that, aud but I
knew you sat down because of the way you told
the story where you're like if you were, but oh yeah,
you didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Say they was. They were standing.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Shout out to them individuals. They all they all did
some stuff. But look so while they dancing, everybody started dancing,
so people laying, rocking, people, people just jigging in general,
people doing the pool palace slash walking out whatever air
you subscribe to. And then the principal stopped the band.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Said hold on, hold on, hold on, d hold on now,
y'all better not be snapping them next. We don't want
to send nobody to the hospital. And he was dead serious.
But everybody laughed and laughed, and people laughed at the
idea of this lady dying and that more of us
could have died. You know, we thought that was so humorous.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Oh man, oh god, the idea that an adult, literally
the most senior adult in this still it is like,
wait a minute, this is irresponsible what you young people
might be venturing into.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I love that he had the heart to cut the
music I've never once in my life had something important
enough to say stop them. Yeah, not one.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, man, my principal orthopedic shoes. Man, he wasn't a
fun guy at all, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
He had.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
He had a lot of hangtime over the belt for
a shadow to who I become and then what he
and what he did when he when he stopped all
fun and said, y'all stop that. Y'all stopped that, and
then the band started the song tho. So it was
like a serious thing. It was a real serious thing, goddamn.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But honestly, people kept snapping their nets back and nobody died.
I ain't seen nobody else die from it.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Any injuries, any injuries.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I ain't gonna lie. I seen I seen somebody do
like the twist with the leg. I don't know. Do
y'all know who fabo? We don't disrespect us, man, don't
don't y'all from I know y'all from the midway. But
still watch your fucking mouth, tell your story. But you know,
do you know who is.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Talking?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
He used to stand up?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
He game and they drub He would have stood up,
and then they would have they would have jumped in
but he would have apt up. So he used to
do this thing where he would lift he would lift
his leg up to his side and he will wipe
off his feelies with his hand, right.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I remember that was a big move.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Like people will do that, and I've seen one person
do that and they lifted up with too much momentum
and fell over and but they lived.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
WHOA, Okay, yeah, I thought you were about to describe
a horrible knee injury, but no, this is just bad balance.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
That led to yeah, they slipped, and it was really bads.
Everybody like, na, hey, you can't do the moon, like fa,
no you ain't. And then for we were like he
think he fable and then like, nah, I guess I'm
not fable because because you know, because I'm pretty bad,
I'm not favor You know, it's only three years. So
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you do one dumb thing, you socially stunned yourself for
middle you know what I'm saying. So like from that
point on, it was like watch out for him, don't
let him dance.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Write that that is objectively not fay Bo for the
rest of this experience.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
And I love that sentiment because even if somebody could
do the move. They still not fable, you know what
I'm saying. No, nobody was in that gym, but for
one thing, for shortened that cat.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
If ever you thought, like a Scooby Doo episode, we're
gonna amass him and it's secretly gonna be fab it
ain't out.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, because in the song bet you Can't Do It
Like Me, it's a song called bet you Can't Do
It Like Me, which is a when they talk about
doing the central move like Fabo. So just I did
that Fabo was going around and teaching people the actual
move as if like a like a like a train,
you know, like if you get to a certain level
in karate, the master train to come teach you. And
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so the idea was that he didn't have the central move.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Oh, that Fabo Fabo had not been called down to
give the ultimate instruction.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
For sure. I know this might be a convoluted.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Well this is I think a wonderful transition into some
of the research that I did. And according to what
we were talking about, the the idea of the possibility
of this girl dying according to those haters over at Snopes,
and that's the only way that I see them there's
not enough evidence on records showing that a person did
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in fact die doing the dance to prove this to
be true. However, and this is a very important however,
one specific to this show. One of the things that
they point to as empirical evidence of, or rather the
lack of empirical evidence, is they say that if a
girl did in fact die, it would obviously make national
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news from if a girl died from this dance move.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I think it's like, you know, how when when people
were like, this is my theory, you know, when everybody
was dying the COVID and people were like, oh, they're
saying everybody's dying the COVID, but it's really they had
the pre existing conditions they're dying of. I think that
would happen in reverse in terms of a dance related death,
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because like, if my kid died snapping, I would be like, no,
he fell down. In some athletic persons, I wouldn't want
to report it is like what happened. Like the cops
come in, they're like, what happened to death? That's crazy,
that's he died, you know, So you got to be
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like he fell down the stairs. It's like domestic of you.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
He died.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
He died trying to stop a fire. He didn't die dancing,
don't be honestly.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
He stood up at the assembly and.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I like I like the idea that somebody lying
about what they actually died from he was doing.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
He was praising Tor and they got to jump him
because they didn't want him to worship God. He was
really a saint, you know, I got I got it.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I got a question. I got a question. Who wrote
that article that you read?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well, it's uh, it's Snopes, I think, is a website
that sort of like prides itself on on unpacking the
possibility of these things being real. I don't know specifically,
although no, that's not true. There's a person named David
Mickelson who wrote it. And part of my issue, and
maybe this is what you're getting to is, I don't
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believe that David Michelson has a great understanding of what
does and doesn't get reported from the black black community.
The black children that are kidnapped and killed every day
that does not get reported and treated like national news.
So the possibility that a girl dying it easily could
go without being reported.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Bro, he he ain't got his head to the street,
he got it to the sidewalk, and with that, that
cat don't know what he's talking about. He wasn't in Atlanta.
Here's here's here's my opposed argument to that.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Why would? Why would? What's the motive for a line
about that?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You know what I'm saying, like, what does what does
the city of Atlanta get out of line about.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
This lady death?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
It's not a pointed pride, I imagine.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
And plus, if she was alive, she would have came
out by now and saying, hey, y'all, I'm a c NA.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Definitely, I'm definitely not dad.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
All those other kids from the internet. You find them,
the little boy drinking the juice like that, he plays football? Now,
Oh boy, this nigga ain't a cold sandwich. I just
looking at him. I was just looking at him on
Instagram two days ago. He still hang out.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
She would have pulled up.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
She she would have been divorced by now and would
have taught us like, hey, yo.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
She teaches dental hygienas said to Ride, I understand, Yeah, No,
where is she? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
She she doesn't exist because she passed. And I think
it's sick that it's people on trying trying to take
away her legacy like that, because that's somebody who means
a lot to this city and we're not going to allow,
you know, some some Reddit dude to try to disgrace that.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I love that you said that. Let's let's take it
a step further, because I actually thought that this. I
didn't know about this one of the things that you mentioned,
and it's not clearing, or at least wasn't clear when
I originally read the conspiracy is that she was a
part of the music video. This wasn't just a random
girl at a random part, but was in fact one
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of the people that you see featured in the music
video and in the conspiracy theory, or rather the the
debunking quote unquote of this conspiracy theory. They actually liken
it to a similar claim from nineteen eighty four featuring
our Boy David Alfonso Robero.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh no, yes, there were.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
There were claims in nineteen eighty four that Alfonso Robero,
who originally got his fame doing Michael Jackson impersonations in
that McDonald's career exactly Mike, that that Alfonso Robero actually
had died from attempting an impossible Michael Jackson move. That
like he had killed himself attempting to be Michael. That
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was a real rumor that was spreading in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Are you telling my brother from from one on one?
Uh No, that ain't that flex That's no.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
That's Alexander. Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I thought he was Michael James. No, no, no, although
gift that Alexander Michael he did do he did it
Michael Jackson film. I believe where he had b I
don't under saying maybe a real name with David what
you said the Latin.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Name Alfonso Roberto.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh, I thought y'all was saying flex flex. I would say, no, no, no,
Alvon Robero. You know from The Fresh Prince. He was
Carlton on The Fresh Prince.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Oh, the Carlton.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah, but he before he became Carlton got famous on
like truly almost like it's as close I think as
we could call viral back then. He became like a
viral sensation for impersonating Michael Jackson's dance moves in a
McDonald's commercial.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
That's hard, that's hard, man.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I think he was hacking the eighties. That's what everybody
was doing.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I mean, shout out of everybody hood impersonated Michael Jackson
man good career, Jason Weaver shot the Jason Weaver shout out,
Oh Alexander. They put here to put the way paint
on him.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
They made him look wild, oh man, that he made
a wild choice participating in that film.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
He flex made a lot of wild choices. Do you
remember Whole Boys in Outer Space?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Of course? I remember Homeboys and Outers? I got one
flax Sandate's that and snakes on a plane. Uh huh yeah.
Flex Sander.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
He was a rapper who his and his and his
security guard was Keen.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
And Thompson had a chain on the entire movie five
foot eight inch Keenan Thompson and he landed a plane.
He landed a plane that they was like, yo, who
could fly the plane? And Ken and Tims like I'll
fly it. And he goes to the fright. He was like,
I ain't never land no plane. I was like, why
do you do that? Kids? He figured it out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was like the third time we've talked about flex Alexander.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
On him and I pray to God it we do
it every episode.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I think, don't they say in Seinfeld, there's secretly like
a Superman reference in every like scene.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
That's what we're Flex Alexander.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
And come on, baby, there there's gonna be a Flex
Alexander in every little bit of this.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a I'm gonna get
a Homeboys and Outer Space T shirt.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I please, let's let's wear matching T shirts for the
first live.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Oh man, that's alright, that is amazing. I do that.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
One thing about that boy Flex over his twenty year career,
Rather he was Kyla Pratt Dad.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Rather he was dribbling the basketball. That boy kept a
shape of Denny.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I was just gonna say he had a Crystal one
on them. Yeah, he had a j Road before Jalen Room.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah right, he kept a Chris one on he was.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
He was overshadowed by Steve Harvey's wig in a way
that he'll never get the same credit that he deserves
because we spent years, right, we spent years praising Steve
Harvey for this lie. Meanwhile, Flex Alexander was sitting there
beautiful the whole time, and we ain't we ain't say nothing.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
You know, who else had amazing hair. Who never gets
his due? Who's that fucking Martin? Hmmm, oh, okay, that's
Martin's hair was always beautiful, clean, faith so well and
it was natural and I feel like nobody ever brings
it up. Also, I'm pretty sure the first person to
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wear a Pelly Pelly on television.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh that not that may be very true. In season
two we had the Pelly Pelly with the belt Fox.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Fox was making a bold choice with Martin when they
made it, so we were gonna see some fashion that that.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You know, the networks weren't.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Ready for the first Pelly Pelly and the greatest shape
of that's good.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
That man had a great career.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
No, he did it. We can't ever, we can never
take away.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
And he told people to wash their ass. It's he
did it. Super important. People are half to do that.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
People have to if you don't get rung the whole life,
get out of way. It's like going to bed lay
Oh yeah, not.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Cleaning up your room.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Make sure the inside is clean and then the outside.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I think I think this is this is huge for us.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
This is important because one of the things that along
with liking it to to Alfonso Roberto and a number
of sort of like weird conspiratorial deaths that were said
to happen with like semi famous people in the media.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
One of the things that that then drove me to
ask is is there any evidence of people dying from dancing?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Right? Like? Do we have any actual evidence? And I
got one?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Oh, let's start with yours, because I actually this is exciting.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
So so all right, y'all, remember all right, I'm sorry,
I get a little along with it. Bro, I'm a
little socially in that, y'all. Remember you're nailing it.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, I think you're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Thank y'all, man, I really, I really thank y'all for
letting me. This is the biggest thing that ever happens.
So so look y'all remember in like maybe it's like
nineteen ninety nine. Congratulations, it's Saturday, so your mama to
let you stay past step past nine thirty.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
It's a dude who come on the TV.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Now he got a blindfold, somebody it's ABC, somebody shoot
a gun and if he catched the bullet in his mouth, y'all,
remember that dude. I it used to be on a
Magic Show. He used to catch a bullet in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
He spit in the place. Oh are you talking.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
About street magic? Street magic?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, but he did it on the stage now on
that same show. Right on the same show, they would
show previews to a news segment where these people was
dancing at arend reception and then you can watch you
can find this on YouTube. They danced that a reception
and the flow gave out at a wedding and a
bunch of them casts down.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Whoa, I think, I.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, yeah, but he didn't die. A bunch of them.
It was like a whole wedding party. A lot of
them die. They was doing the east Side stump.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I made up the last part.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
I don't remember the magic show you're talking about, but
I one hundred percent remember watching twenty twenty with my mom,
which was very much a thing we were doing in
nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
On Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Oh hell yeah, Where else was I going? This lady
got twenty twenty on I'm in the house.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
It's a good time. It's a good time.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
But I remember watching an episode about exactly what you're describing.
These people falling through the floor.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
They was jigg I wonder what record it was? You
know what I'm saying, Like, imagine what record made y'all
stump the flow up.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Oh, I hope it was the Millennium.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I hope it was.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
It was fucking I hope it was Storm by Kurk Franklin.
That's all. Dang they get they got to go see
him that day.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That was a song. Right.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
If you're praising Jesus and then you get to meet
him immediately after, that's pretty tight.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, that's all right, man.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
If they was, if they was all Kirk Franklin church outfits,
y'all remember that when Kirk Franklin was like, Yo.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
We got we gotta figure out a way to get
the youth in the church. We're gonna wear Jeanie. Yep.
You know that was like a big thing in like
ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
He had a bubble coat too.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
That was before he got buff and and uh and
also made up a new hairline for himself. He was
more at peace back then into that though.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I meant making up a new airline. I was on
I'll tell you, I'll tell you the truth. I'll tell
you the truth. I was on television. Once they hit
me with the Beijing I felt incredible. Y.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I'm gonna be honest with you. You kids janed up one
day that first day. It's a good time. Now, once
you take the shower, once you take that shower, you
see the mistakes he makes.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Problem, that's true.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
The shower does reveal all Beijing area.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah, that's that's my issue with it is is I
I love the experience and for a TV appearance that
makes perfect sense. But truly the next day makes you
feel like the ugliest monster you ever because that's a
fresh haircut and it ain't I.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Kind of the house. It's white out for barbers.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
They got one. They got one at my barbershop. Nobody
ever uses it. This guy, he got it, and I've
never seen any but I always I want to I
want to look good. I want the whole I want
the whole situation.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Hit up that once you once you start, once you
start putting Beijing on that skull, you put on that
skull or you put on that jaw line, that's when
you never come in.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Back, start singing R and B. Yeah, I think Carlos
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Even face those shoe Pauls. She looked like one of
the brothers. Bro.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I remember one time, I was at a smoothie place
you do had Beijing, and his hairline started leaking because
he was sweat up. And then and then the Beijing
dripped into the smooth and he gave it to a
customer whoa yep, yeah, fuck.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Damn, I didn't. It's crazy because you said, I didn't
know that you could work at a smoothie restaurant and
have the money for Beijing. How much does it cost?
Speaker 4 (43:33):
I don't know, but but every literally everywhere I've ever been,
they're giving that out for free at barbershops.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Pay for it.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, Like I said, they got the gun at my barbershop.
I've never seen anybody.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Oh you're talking about the gun situation. Most of the time.
It's a little air brush squeegee type joint that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
That's how it is in Hollywood. When I got Beijing,
that's how it was. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
I think with the gun, they'll charge you that. That's
not that giving away. That's too much Beijing that one time?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Just break?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Can they giving them away by the gap?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
You know you can't. I jump like a wild punch.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
That's like that's like mounting your own TV. You could
do it.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah, now, don't do that. Call it, call it, call
it a different man to come mount your TV for you.
Don't don't do that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
They put the business card on your head to make
sure they get the lines right.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
So, so you brought up this example of these people
dancing through the floor. I dare to ask you all,
and this is exciting. Have either of you heard of
the dancing Plague of fifteen eighteen?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
You know that I have?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
You have?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I have? I bring it up all the time.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Just the other day, I was saying, remember that dancing text.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I was like, you, guys, that's just wow.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Well, well, for the those that don't know, and Bory,
I know you're already versed in all.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Of this shit.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
But for those that don't know, the dancing Plague of
fifteen eighteen apparently involved more than one hundred people dancing
themselves uncontrollably to their own deaths.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
That's crazy. Why they do that?
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
So that's I love that you're asking that. And the
truth is, no one still to this day, fully knows
what the fuck happened. But apparently I'll break the whole
story down for y'all. Apparently there was this lady fro
Frau tro fe who leaves her house. One day, she
goes to the city square and then she just starts dancing.
(45:39):
She's in Straussburg, what is now modern day France. Right,
she goes to the middle of Strausburg. She just starts dancing.
She dances so long and so hard that eventually she
passes out from heat stroke an exhaustion. But then everyone
assumes like, all right, fraw got that shit out her system,
She's gonna go do whatever the fuck frows be one elsewhere.
(46:01):
But the next day she shows back up, does the
exact same thing again the next day, to the point
that peep other people start joining in and they start
dancing alongside her, almost on some cult this ship, until
four hundred people are gathered at a time dancing with
this bitch.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Frown.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I think I know what happened, Okay, tell me so
back then, this is when folks just started dance.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Folks. So, I think it's two ways you can look
at this.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Either A they hold on what this girl doing, and
then somebody else started like, no, it's hard, man, we
got to keep up with this and that joy that
endorphins outweigh food, water, shelter, and the willingness to live right.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Or oh he's going for more, or if they.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Had limited range, they had limited dance moves. So I
think back in them times it was about who could
do the better dance move, but who could dance alone?
You get what I'm saying, Like the marathon came before
the sprint.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
It was quantity not quality.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is well.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Let me say I love these I love these suggestions
of what happened. In fact, the suggestion that that dancing
was created just shy of fifteen eighteen is is maybe
my favorite piece of information that I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Anybody before that. Before that, they was playing the music
standing still. Man, I have no proof. I have no proof.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
People started jinging and then people start dying in a two.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
So what's crazy is that that even what you're suggesting
is not that much more absurd than what they landed
on all the way back then. A lot of people, naturally,
you guys are smart enough to know they blamed the devil.
That was the first thing that came to mind was
them being like, well, is the devil's doing the frau
obviously as a sinner, and so are these other people,
(48:05):
and the devil is making them do that, And in fact,
they would often refer to this lure of Saint Vitus Vetus.
I don't know how to pronounce stuff, a Sicilian saint
Martyred in three oh three, a d who was said
to curse centers with uncontrollable dancing mania if angered.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
That's what his power is.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
Yeah, he like, I guess he died and he was like,
if I get mad, you have to date dance crazy.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
He like the first hypno hip. What's it called? Yeah,
he the first one of those. Not a magician, bro,
just like a what do y'all dude?
Speaker 4 (48:47):
So So the other thing that they point to as
a potential explanation, this is not what people were saying
back then. This is what what people have now sort
of at least suggested, might be the conclusion that some
also believe it was a result of effects of psychotropic
mold known as ear God that basically grows on damp
(49:07):
stalks of rye and then could produce a chemical similar
to LSD.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
That's probably the real answer.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
How many days was she eating that mold?
Speaker 4 (49:17):
I don't think she was eating it. I don't think
she was like having a big.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Old I'm taking LSD it doesn't last for days.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yeah, well that's they're saying that, like, or at least
the suggestion feels like it's saying like the rye, it
had been an inhalent all over the city type shit.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Oh and then they collectively were Yeah, everybody's got high
off this LSD in their homes and across the city,
and now they're dancing in Times Square.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
BORI doesn't that I'm wrong with that one?
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Tell me why I want to hear both reasons?
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Why I every time? Because I read I was reading
something about there was some that shit that happened in
like Switzerland too, where they was like the town was
collectively on LSD. Have you ever been on like psychotropic
drugs around other people? Your experiences are not at all unified. Mmmm,
(50:16):
it's not like it's not like that. It's like everybody's
kind of going through their own shit. So to get
four hundred people who are tripping to be involved in
this like group hallucination, it's like I called Shenanigan.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
Well, here's what I'll say is that you are presuming
that the people who are not dancing are not high
as well. And there could be an argument that like
everybody was high, but everybody was having different experiences. And
those were just four hundred people who had a line
in terms of like, yo, we're dance high, motherfuckers, versus
(50:53):
these other people who are like sit at home with
their arms folded and think about anything else.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Weird happened in the down that day.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Oh, there's not a lot of evidence of that. I
think they were real focused on the dancing.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
See then No, if it was like four hundred people
were dancing, two hundred people decided it's fun to steal
from seven to eleven, six hundred people like did mouth stuff,
like were blowing each other, then I would be like, oh,
that makes sense, Like everybody's kind of acting out of character.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
I got you.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
But you know what, nobody invented mouth stuff. Therefore it's
it's unlikely that this was the thing that was happening.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
I don't think that. I think mouth stuff goes back
as far as people go back.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
You think mouth stuff goes further than dancing.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
I don't think. I think people have been putting it
in their mouths since they've been putting food in there. Yeah,
I think we have always put genitals in mouths always.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
Hell Yeah, Mandel you are you're you're on the pro
At this point they David took the con where explain
to me why you believe this?
Speaker 1 (51:58):
That just sounded like geeker activity, And so I'm gonna
go with that. That sounds like some of the geeked up.
Maybe the bread, maybe the RYE mixed in with the
LSD make you want to jig a little bit. You know,
I've seen plenty of people jig on a lot of things,
and maybe and maybe today.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Was LSD, LSD and rye. Baby.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah, you put that bread with the LSD, you on
that dance floor. You know, it's just what it is.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
So one of the the most interesting explanations that I
found that I think actually is going to be a
great connector back to this original conversation is the reference
to something called collective psychosis, which argues that cultural influence, religion,
supernatural beliefs, gossip right, might lead people to enter a
(52:48):
disassociative mental state in which their normal consciousness is disabled,
causing them to carry out irrational physical acts.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
But this was in France, right, why didn't they all
start kissing?
Speaker 4 (53:01):
Well, that that's rational, that that's literally their thing. So
I think what they're saying is the irrational would not
be to kiss, but to dance wildly until you're that Literally.
They described some of these people as like being bloody
from from having danced all day for two months.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
To wait, you didn't say too month.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Oh I'm sorry, Yes, this lasted for two months.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
I've been getting nigh this old time. I forgot. So
you said they for two months? That's right? Well that yeah,
that's that's a way of thinking about it. Damn that's
crazy that that is.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
And I guess where it connects me back where I
start to think about the original conspiracy theory, right is
I think about this girl and how like Snopes and
these other people that claim it's not real would say, well,
it's unlikely that somebody would want to dance that hard
or give that much energy to it and that would
eventually snap their neck whatever, whatever, whatever. But I think
(54:13):
we're really talking about like this this cultural psychosis that
we could all find ourselves in. It's just us trying
to one up each other and get further into sort
of like a place of value with our dance moves,
with our bodies, and that could force a person exactly, Yeah,
(54:34):
a person would suddenly kill themselves on on some just
desperately wanting to be a part of this cultural imprint.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I feel like I've definitely been in a party and
the time is right and the lights are hitting, and
I'm like, I would kill to be the best dancer. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. I felt that. I felt
that before.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
I feel you.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
My only issue though, is that it was too much
that stuff. You get what I'm saying at some point. Well,
what I'm surprised is that they didn't die without food
and water before too much.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
Think that what they're saying is that that's over the
course of two months, one hundred people died. So I
don't think that literally everybody that started with FRAU made
it all the way through two months. In fact, I
read something that said that it was something like fifteen
people a day dropping dead from whatever this was. So
(55:31):
I think they started off dancing and then some people
would drop out, some people get tired and not come back.
But over the course of two months, this dancing never stopped.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
Well, people got to chill out with that.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
That's what I got, and honestly, I think that's the
best way for us to put us stamp on this.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
I truly don't know.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
A better way for us to end this conversation with
just hey, people got to chill out out with that.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Look, if you hate cops just because the next time
you get in trouble, call on crackhead, call him up. Manna,
they're gonna dance today die.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
They'll dance to die because they're on psychotropic drugs. Huh, Mandel,
could you tell the people where they can find you
and what cool shit you have going on?
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Man, don't find me fire youre lord to save you. Man,
Thank y'all for having me.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Bro. Oh, that's not what you're I just need though.
I love that.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
That's what you were about to go into is an
acceptance speech.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
But yeah, I'm about to say thank you. Shout out
to Hot Comics Studios. So let me record here.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Oh way to find me? Oh I gotta I got
an Instagram? Yeah, I got an Instagram? Dumb Mandel man? Yeah,
follow that follow or don't know either one?
Speaker 4 (56:51):
Follow Mandel I was. I was telling him before the podcast.
One of my favorite clips of comedy I've seen in
years is something he posted. A very funny joke. He
told so follow Mandel. He's hilarious, Bory. You want to
tell the people where they can find you what you
got going on?
Speaker 2 (57:08):
Uh yeah, December third, I'm gonna be at the Crocodile
in Seattle, and December fourth, I'm gonna be headlining Helium
in Portland, and then you know, oh, November twenty fourth,
I'm gonna be headlining the Comedy Works in Denver. My
little brother's gonna be there. He's pretty fun.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Hell yeah does he wait he does comedy now, No.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
He'll just be hanging out. It's just jellous. Fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
Well, go Ze, Bory goes Lee Boy's little brother. If
you're in Denver, and as always, you can follow me
at Langston Kerman on all platforms. And if you want
to send us your drops, your conspiracy theories, your bullshit,
send it to my mama pod at gmail dot com.
We would love to hear from you. Okay, that's it,
by bitch.
Speaker 5 (58:06):
The government brought up bas my grown chips in your names.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
All Koala bears are racist.
Speaker 5 (58:17):
The host of lair for host and money, our ships
and men of turkey stuff.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
I can't tell me go
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