September 8, 2020 • 57 mins
If you put your purse on the floor, will you go broke? Langston and his guest Quinta Brunson (A Black Lady Sketch Show on HBO) clutch their purses to their chests as they open up the bag on this classic conspiracy.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I think there's probably a lot of laws about how
far a school nurse is allowed to dig in a
child's body. That's my expectation, is that, like, if you're
beyond like an inch and a half, all right, now,
this isn't far. It's the tips, the tip you might
be into this, we gotta call a professional that can
(00:24):
come back and take care of them. I don't know, baby,
that's bad child. We love to but can you're trying
to get me fired. Hold on, let me call the police.
Get out of here, like some chips in your racist
(00:51):
school school money stuff. I can't tell me. Yeah. Welcome,
ladies and gentlemen, to a beautiful episode, beautiful episode of
My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep
(01:12):
into the world of black conspiracy theories. And we do
it for our granddaddy's, we do it for our big mama's,
we do it for our pop pops, and most important,
we do it and we put our backs into it.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am your host, Lankston Kerman. As always,
I am so happy to be here with you. What
a treat of an episode we have. I'm doing well.
(01:36):
I'm drinking a new flavor of Lacroix today. It's called
lemon Cello. It tastes like all the other Lacroix, but
this one feels exciting. It's new, it's dangerous and I
can't wait for you kids to have it. I'm not
sponsored by Lacroix. I just funk with it and I
want to talk about it on here. But you know
what's more exciting than new flavors of Lacroix. It's my
(01:58):
guest today. She is wonderful. Do you know her from
a Black Lady sketch show? You know her from Laser Wolf,
you know her from most of the memes on the internet.
She is so funny. Give it up for the great
Quinto Brunson and what's up continuing to be a rich
(02:19):
white auntie talking about boy? It's the only way to
do it. Yeah. I like to put gin in there
and then I'm a London lady. It's beautiful. You need
to just try white clothes or truly they're good. I
drink them religiously. Now that's what I've become in quarantine.
Nice drink. Yeah. Is there a preferred white cloth flavor?
(02:41):
Is there? I hate to say it, but I just
tried the watermelon. I know, with an e er like,
I know, but it's really good. Why do we do
that to ourselves? Can you look into that on another
I do. It's an unfair thing we put on ourselves
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to pretend as if watermelon flavor isn't the best flavor
and everything. Yeah, Dolly Ranchers, like, it's really good. I
don't know go through that. So I'm just trying to
give myself freedom, and I want to say that I
enjoyed the watermelon. That's right. Good for you. In quarantine,
you are liberating yourself in a different way. Sure you're
(03:25):
stuck inside, but you can eat a watermelon. I didn't
eat a watermelon. You men eat a watermelon in your
window while your white neighbors watch. It's fine, it's delicious
for you. They're not judging. And once I get to
the center of the watermelon mayonade and you just keep going,
(03:48):
it's so yeah, I get what you're doing. I'm very
excited for your topic. Most of the topics that we
get on this show so far have been about murdering mayhem.
They've been very heavy sub objects that's in some way
lend themselves to sort of like scary, big conspiracies, and
I think your conspiracy theory plays itself into a lighter space.
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There's certainly a less dramatic space. The topic you came
up with this conspiracy theory that you sent us was
my mama told me, if you put your purse on
the ground, you'll go broke. Yeah, yeah, I had. I've
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heard it before, but I don't carry your purse, so
it it didn't mean anything. So I want to know
what it meant to you. Why is this important? Okay? Yeah,
So I remember when I started carrying my own purse,
maybe when I was about like twelve or thirteen years old,
just as a little cute limited to fashion statement. Um,
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I used to like carried around and I have my
little dollars or whatever in there for getting water, ice
or like getting chips. So whenever I was about taking
from the corner store and I would put my purse
on the floor, like I'm saying it to you, like
put my person on the floor. But at the time
it didn't matter. But then yeah, you're like, in retrospect,
I was committing the greatest defend the greatest thing in
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my mom, who isn't a big like superstitious person, especially
because they're like very religious and stay away from those
kinds of notions. She was just like, pick your purse
up off the floor. If you put your purse on
the floor, you'll go broke. You always have to hang
it off the back of your chair or keep it
on your arm. Out little teeny capitalist me just like,
(05:36):
was that was the worst? Talking money? All right, you're
talking money. I'm listening. So I was like, let me
pick my purse up off the and it just always
stuck with me, and now to this very day. You
can ask anybody I carry my purse on me at
all times. I have a bad habit of caring you
on the stages with me, like I'm doing stand up
and all because I just never wanted to touch the
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floor because is it's a superstition that's now embedded in
meow Okay, So I have so many questions, primarily you're
saying that your mother is not a superstitious person, that
in general she shies away from superstition. But that's when
she committed to Why do you think that is? You know,
I don't know. I never asked her that, but I
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would assume it was just because money was tight, anderstitious
about anything. It was going to be about money. I'm
gonna play about my money, yeah, because like we don't
she doesn't believe in magic. We didn't celebrate Christmas, No Sanda, no,
none of that ship. So that's why, Yeah, I think
it's stuck with me even more because she didn't have
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a bunch of like sayings like that floating around our house.
That was pretty much the only one. I was just like,
all right, I better not you know, right, Yeah, I
feel like money for black people, and money especially for
people who are sort of like the head of I
imagine your mom in this space was like the head
of the household, sort of like a person needing to
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manage a lot of people. It's not something you want
to joke about or even run the risk of, like
doing something playful with money. It's like, not, this is essential.
So if there's some saying out there, even if it's
not necessarily something I normally subscribe to, I'm gonna buy
into it right now because definitely, And there were five
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of us, five kids. My parents were Yeah, my parents
are you know, are together, they're married and stuff, and
we had a dual income household. But I just imagine
when you're taking care of five kids of varying ages
and trying to send in the college and stuff. Money
is important to hold onto no matter what name. And
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still you know the being conscious about money into us too.
So yeah, I also come from five, although ain't no
two parent combination for me that we all over the place. Uh,
but a little bit of this, a little d of that.
We're all got to have the same daddy. We we
know each other. But that being said, I it blows
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my mind all the time that at some point my
mom was having to feed four people, including herself and
then including her husband, yes, to make ends meet. Like
that's insane, links and it blows my mind. I have
straight up just called my mom out the blue in
the middle of the night and she's like, what's wrong.
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Are you dying? I'm like, no, I need to know
how you took care of I need to know how
you made that math math because this don't work in mind,
doesn't make sense. I'm trying to take the cat to
the vet, and I don't understand how you didn't that
with five human beings you loved and cared about, like
you had to keep us alive. I cannot I still
can't wrap my head. And that's the craziest thing. Like
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you're talking about taking your cat to the vet. That's
an expense that you probably didn't prepare for, right, and
you have the means, hopefully to be able to keep
your head alive and do what you need to do
for that can But the idea that a child get
something in their body that they then have to go
to the hospital for and you just have to come
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up with the money to make it work, it's insane,
Like you have to keep that human being alive. And yeah,
it's not the kind of cool to let them die,
even like you cannot joke about it at a party.
Have to do that. So I don't know how she
did it, So yeah, I mean, I guess that could
have gone into their money superstition. I remember one year
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when I was a kid. I uh, I think I
was in kindergarten and my friends and I dare at
each other to stick legos up our noses as one
as ought to do. And uh, at age five, we
were sticking legos up our noses and I stuck one
up my nose too far I could not get it out, yes,
and then had to go to the nurse, who then
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was like, I'm not legally allowed to get this out
or try to get this out, who then had to
call my mother, who then had to meet me at
the hospital so that they could remove this thing from
my nose, you know, through a surgery essentially, and the
amount of money that that probably costs my mom and
(10:18):
having to leave her job and pay for a hospital
visit because I'm an idiot, So your parents are worried
about money, which subsequently makes them believe in this potential
conspiracy theory. And then you said something that's even more
interesting to me. You said that that you come from
a religious household. So they're pretty stringent. They're like hyper
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religious or they're just like we go to church every Sunday,
kind of vibe very very very religious. You know, both
of my parents were in our still Jehoa's Witness And
it's a pretty strict. Uh. It's it's kind of the
meeting of like the Quakers and the Christians, a Baptist Christian.
(11:01):
So people don't know much about the religion, but to
give like a short answer, it's just pretty it's pretty strict.
They don't celebrate any holidays. They do believe in the Bible,
which is interesting to me because if you look at
the Bible from a different lens, it's really just folklore,
entails and magical believing. You know, sorry, America, you heard
(11:25):
it here first, folks, Quintus said the Bible is made up.
You don't think it's true at all. If it weren't
for you, if it weren't your I just feel like
I need to and you're fine, But I do think
I think to your point that there is something really
fascinating about people who are religious saying I don't believe
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in superstition, when in essence, we don't have any definitive
proof of any of these things, and they're allegories that
were that are meant to lead our lives and hopefully
make us become better people. But it's not rooted in truth.
I don't truly believe that. Like a bush lit itself
on fire and then talk to Moses, I think my
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man got high and he thought about it. Maybe a
bush was a boy was huffing on some bush. And
then he was like, all right, I got some ideas,
maybe we shouldn't kill people. And everybody was like just
talking about loud, trying to say he has some good
weed that bush was sucking lit and talk to me. Um. Yeah,
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they're they're pretty religious people, so they don't believe in
many um, you know, just superstitions. So it was strange
to me that my mom believed in that one and
that it was put on to me. Yeah. I have
a cousin who was a former Jehovah's Witness and was
excommunicated because she got a divorce, and like that was
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a big thing at least in that community for her. Um.
But you know, the things that I've learned is sort
of that like, you don't get to make this about you, right,
Like a big part of Jehovah's Witness lifestyle is that
we're all trying to get ourselves into heaven and do
the work to get yourself into heaven because there are
limited seats, right, Like, yeah, there's like a thing it's
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like there'll only be a hundred and forty four thousand
that will go to heaven. So at some point you
just accept like you're not one of them, Like you
just settled for paradise on Earth after Armageddon and you're
trying to get there, right. So yeah, that's what it's
kind of built off. Of which is a whole other podcast.
Doesn't what's that guy's name, what's his name? He's he
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had the show on the show about stand up on
HBO whatever. He has a whole religion podcast. I need
to go get on that and talk about being a
Jehovah's witness. You and Prince y'all doing it. Yeah, a
lot of us. Prince did untill the day he died. Right.
He joined later, which was so unique. It's fascinating me
when people joined later in their lives. Uh, Michael Jackson
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started out as one, stop being one and then return
to the faith. Prince became one later. Both Venus and
Serena had grown up Jehoah's witnesses, Donald Glover, it's unique.
It's a weird, yeah, weird place. I will say that
as far as religions go, I respect the way that
Jehovah's Witnesses move like it's a it's a commitment to
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a thing that is often sort of like not demonstrated
in other forms of Christianity or even other religions where
it's like, no, I'm gonna go knock on doors, right
to go have these conversations with my My mom used
to sit down with some Jehovah's witnesses just to like
talk about the Bible, because they would show up every week.
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And she was like, all right, cool, if y'all are here,
I may not join the church, but y'all are cool people,
and you know, you feel it's your obligation to save
me from you know, my nation. So let's do it.
Let's let's see what happens. Maybe gonna talk. I'm into it. Yeah,
it's um a religion with strong conviction. Um, But like
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you know, it's not for everyone. But I don't have
any regrets being brought up in it. I think it
kept me out of a lot of trouble as a
young girl, but then I got older and decided it
wasn't for me. I think, just the way you can
do with any faith, and this is cool. It'll keep
you out of trouble. But like most religions, pretty much
all religions, it has this bullshit as well. Fair enough,
but so one of the things that I think is
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fascinating in relation to your conspiracy theory is this question
of how money plays a factor in the world of
the Jehovah's witnesses. Right, Like my understanding and correct me
if I'm wrong, I very well could be. Is that
money isn't meant to be a big thing for y'all. Yeah,
as opposed to like some of the more flamboyant churches
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in the black community. Yeah, um, you know, like there's
not a pastor who's driving a bents or anything like. Right,
the religion is really based in keeping things as simple
as possible. You go to work to get your money
that you need to feed your family and take care
of you know, bills and stuff. But uh, it doesn't
push like people making a ton of money or being greedy.
(16:09):
It's actually the exact opposite. But it's like, don't take
part in like a capitalist society. Don't take part in
greed and needing to have so much money and the
most money with that though, you know, the less money
you have, the harder it is to keep everything in order.
It right. That's and that's the weird like loophole that
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nobody is really loophole isn't even the right word, but
sort of like caveat that nobody's mentioning is like it's
a lot easier to commit to this god if I
have at least a little bit of money, Man, I
love Jesus when I am broken. That's what kills me
all the time about people like like Kevin Hart, who
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was like, I love Jesus. Like I bet you do.
Think you're rich. Every rich person loves Jesus. It's so
easy for you guys. But that being said, you know,
Jesus is for everyone's faith and religion is for everyone.
So um, you know, I think most Christian people have
this either um old school Jesus approached to money, which
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is like he said, like none of us need anything
and we want to be simple and help our neighbors,
or you have like the new school approach to money,
which is like get your bread because Jesus said. So
you know, I'm like, what person, just shine and go ahead,
go ahead, look at you. Now you're Jesus looking good baby.
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So my parents subscribed to the former and they keep
it humble with money, but that means that they were
pretty good about managing their money. That's just like a
practical man. But he's practical, keeps money in the bank,
he always kept the lights on and everything. Same thing
with my mom. So I think they just were like,
if we're going to live this lifestyle, we got to
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make sure that money is managed. I'll say, yeah, of
your life siblings, are any of them now like still
fully committed to the way that your parents were living
or is everybody sort of like made concessions and sort
of moved in different directions As you can see, I'm
the complete opposite of what your it should be. But um, yeah,
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I think I have one sibling who's still in the faith,
but she'll never hear this. She's pretty much made her
own version of what it means to becoming Jehovah's witness
to her, which I admire a lot, because I think
the faith could use a little bit of a software upgrade,
Like I think they become lenient on some things and
like coming to the new world. But that's not for
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me to say. But you know, um, the rest of us,
my siblings, we all have gone our own different ways.
But you know, when you grow up that way, you
carry nuggets of your past and your faith with you.
You see it in a lot of religions where they're like, hey,
we're not allowed to eat pork or or or shellfish,
and it's like, okay, well, that's the remnant of a
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time when eating pork was so dangerous that it might
actually kill you. It's not applicable now. But if that's
something that you want to carry with you because you
feel like, okay, well it's a dirtier meat, Like I'm
not here to judge that, go ahead, do your thing,
just don't rarin my pork sandwich. Speaking of that, being
from Philly, where the majority of black people are Muslim,
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they don't eat pork, and so pork just isn't served
in Philadelphia a lot, not even like the white racist areas,
like pork is just not the main expert. So I
grew up not eating pork and I still carry that
with me to this day. And that's not even religious,
that's just Philly. I love the idea that a bunch
of like those Philly assholes are just like they're saying
the in word and they're keeping hellal the whole time.
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Both of those things can't be true, Like, fuck, you
get the funk out of our time. I'm gonna go
enjoy some nice to allow chicken. I can't work steaks.
It's true, it's and that that's something that's been carried
with me. Um not as a religion, not it came
from religion, but it's a cultural practice that or I
don't really work down. Do you feel like and maybe
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this is a tough question for you to answer, but
you're a Philly girl, you know Philly. Well, do you
feel like Philly is a superstitious town? Is there a
lot of superstition sort of lingering in the city. That's
a good question, Thank you. I thought of it myself.
Did you think of that just now? Just now? I
don't have any paper at all. That's a good question.
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I think that it might be. I've never given it
full thought, but now that you've asked me that, Um, well,
you guys are huge on sports. I was about to
say that, so huge sports town. And then besides that,
Philadelphia really is so diverse, And I didn't realize it
until left Philly how many different people were packed into
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one area. I mean as a huge Black, White, Hispanic
and Asian community, like big communities. And uh not only that,
like Philly had one of the first lgbt Q towns
in the country. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's crazy,
and I didn't know that until I got older. But
like it was just a way of life there, um
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and so that and then plus all the different religions,
huge Muslim population, huge Catholic and Christian, huge Jewish population,
And so I think because of that, just like I
said with the pork thing, I don't even know how
many things are floating through the air that are superstitions
from different cultures, Like you know what I mean, I
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definitely have a lot of sports to how much of
the things that you're growing up with are just something
that came from your home or because it was like
weirdly connected to like the way that the Phillies were
gonna win the World Series this year kind of thing. Yeah,
I have no idea, um what I thought it was
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weird when I went to college in Philly. You know,
everybody else came to Temple Um and other black people
were like eating pork. I just was like, I just
thought this was the thing that black people didn't do.
But that was the thing that you're just sitting there, like,
look at all these sellouts really just like the Devil
Worshipers everything on one of y'allss coons. All right, this
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is great, Well we're gonna take a break. We're gonna
come back with more Quinta Brunson and more. My mama
told me and we are back. Yeah, we're a year
(22:58):
with more Quinta brun and more of my mama told me,
and we are talking about her crazy, crazy conspiracy theory
that if you put your purse on the ground, you
will in fact go broke. And so I, Quenta uh,
did some research regarding your topic, regarding your conspiracy theory,
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and I myself, based on the research that I've gathered,
have sort of formed my own conspiracy theory that I
want us to get into. And I'm gonna throw it
out here now. I want your initial thoughts and then
we will unpack everything that I'm saying. But I do
believe based on everything that I've unpacked, and this will
be jarring for all of us. I truly believe that
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this conspiracy theory is the workings of the white man
and and capitalism. This is just the white man trying
to steal money out of poor people's pockets. Thoughts I
could believe, didn't I could believe it, didn't I say
in the beginning, little all capitalistm he was like, oh
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my god, my money. You know, so makes sense? Yeah, okay,
all right, you're not hating it so far. I'm glad
to hear it. Because I've got a lot to tell you.
So apparently the original sort of idea of this came
out of function. You've heard of function? Yeah, so I
only knew function. Yeah, that's my cousin. Yes, okay, So
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so functual, you know, is the ancient sort of Chinese
UH practice, I guess, or sort of pseudo science of
the way that you manipulate energy. I always knew it
as like placement of furniture in the room. That's what
I knew. Yeah. Yeah, so apparently it's more than that
and figured and we just picked the part that we're like,
(24:50):
we're like, all right, I'll move my couch so we
can say, ye, right now, you didn't do that. It
actually is super complicated and require tires you to like
analyze all these elements and sort of like harmonize all
these different parts of your environment. But beyond that, a
part of functional uh is this thing where they basically
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said a person on the floor is money out the door.
And part of where that came from for them was
this idea that if you put your purse on the floor,
if you put your money on the ground, you're not
taking your money your wealth. Seriously, you're treating it as
like a piece of ship, So you're gonna lose your
money like a piece of ship. M okay because of
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the floor, Like basically it's like the floor represents lack
of caring. Is that okay? Yeah, anything on the floor
is in essence you saying you don't care about it,
which makes sense, right, Like that's where that's where we
walk with our feet, that's where dark gathers. It's where
the things that we consider to be the lowest tend
to live. So you put your money down there, you
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obviously don't care about it. And so that evolves right
into like this thing where it sort of gets passed
down sort of like what you were saying about Philly,
that like other cultures pick it up in other places
start to take this idea seriously and they carry it
all the way to like you know, Old English people
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who begin to spread it like an old wives tale.
They're sort of like spreading this legend of like if
you put your money there, you're a bad person whatever whatever, um.
And that expands and and obviously it starts off as
just sort of like a share In Old English, they
didn't have it written down, so they just said it
out loud and then it later becomes like a written word. Right,
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all this to be said that in all the research
that I did, nearly everything that I uncovered, it all
starts with function, but then it ends with like advertisements
for purses or four bags or for resources related to bags,
you know what I mean. Yeah, okay, so it really
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has led to a ploy to sell a nicer purse,
so that the night on the floor and so all
I'm reading all these things that like I'm asking, you know, Google,
where does this come from? And they're like, well, it
comes from fungi. But it makes sense now because bags,
like as you well know, an expensive bag nowadays sometimes
can sell for sixty three of its value. Absolutely, and
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you know it's funny. But okay, let me like I
was gonna say it's funny about that is as I
got older, I'm not I'm not a big money spender.
That's not like my thing, you know me. I'm not
like a big flashy person. But one thing I both
spend money on is a purse. Yes, because I think subconsciously,
if my purse is very nice, I won't be tempted
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to put it on the floor. So if I buy myself.
I do like one of the first big purchases I
made when I started like making a good amount of
money was a Gucci purse And it didn't even go
with anything else I have because I'm just not a
you know what I mean, chuck out as an eye store,
Like why you got a Guccie person a white t on?
This ain't adding up your shirt. But it helped me
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to not put the purse on the floor. It gave
me a reminder to be like, this is too nice
to go on the floor. So no matter what, I
would make sure that that purse was was never on
the floor. So that's interesting exactly, so these purses, these
valuable items that you're buying are now even if they
are well kept, they said, you know, an expensive bag,
meaning like a bag from a nice place but not
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necessarily one of the highest end bags, is like worth
up to sixty three percent of its value if you
were to resell it on all of these places. Right,
but then this is a crazy part the limited edition bag.
So a bag like the one you bought, which is
probably it's Gucci, they're probably not making any more of those,
which means that like if you decided to sell it today.
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It actually could be sold for like exponentially more than
you pay for it. Yeah, absolutely, but only if you
keep it pristine and clean and all that stuff. And
so in unpacking this, I'm like, oh, that's dope. Well
that makes sense because money, you literally are putting money
on the floor. You're literally risking potential wealth in getting
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this thing dirty. But then I'm starting to think, but
who owns all this ship? You know what I mean?
Who gets paid from Gucci? The White Devil? Oh my god,
that's how they get. The White Devil gets you. And
he comes in and he he owns Gucci, he owns
Louis Vutton, he owns the other ones that I don't know. Quenta,
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is this how most of you? Is? This? Almost conspiracies?
And well this is where I start. And then I
stay awake all night in a rage. Got it, gotta
get it? Um, this is not unbelievable to me. I mean,
I think most things dealing with materialism all lead there.
So in other areas I'm so like aware of it
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and active against it. But the bad thing is one
I can't shape but here, and I don't think you
have to, because you can still come up in this.
But I'm starting to see the little signs, right. So
I looked up all these like resale options for bags,
and so there's places like Rule La La and the
Real Real and re Bag and they all sell your
(30:25):
bags potentially and you can sell Oh, I did all
my research. I know about all these places. It's funny
for you to say, like, rude, real this was in
the real real right before. Is a real real good?
I have no idea real real is good. They Yeah,
(30:45):
they resell very expensive items, that's what they do. So,
like they resell Gucci and Louis and um, you know
any other crazy brand you can think of. Yeah, and
I assume they take a commission of some kind. Yeah,
it's like, yeah, exactly, some super expensive thrift store. Yeah.
So okay, so let's say you want to sell the
thing on the real reel. But even if you don't
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want to sell the thing on the real road, when
you go to look up how can I resell my bag,
what you end up finding is that like all these
other different like options for selling stuff pop up. So
like you see things like bag hooks or these non
alcoholic wipes to keep your leather nice and soft and clean.
And bags to put around the bag so that your
(31:30):
bag never has to come in contact with the world,
even though it probably looks ridiculous. Yeah, like, what are
we doing? Nothing kills me more than covers for things
like rembly. There was a point when people started wearing
shoe covers on their shoes. Yes, we went to six
Flags Great America for our prom after prom thing, I
(31:53):
think most people do some version of that. And literally
everybody I knew had plastic bag on their new sneakers
because they rained the night before and they didn't want
to get like their white air force is dirty. It's like, hey, bro,
we're wearing trash on our feet. It isn't better, Like
we all look like assholes to protect shoes that you
(32:16):
can't none of us can see. I don't know if
you're fresh or not. You're wearing trash. It deeply bothers me.
For for our people, it deeply bothers me. We'll move on,
and we'll move on, and I'm no better because I tried.
My heart is to keep my bags pristine, so I
get it. Sure, we're all fighting a hard fight right now.
I think just loving each other and trying to love
(32:38):
our things while simultaneously holding ourselves accountable for our commitment
to capitalism. It's weird. It's too much. Um Okay, So
things like like uh, like the bags and the purse
clips and the wipes, they're all being sold to you
as a way of keeping this bag clean. And so
a part of me starts to ask, well it, I
(33:00):
asked myself, and now I'm asking you, does it actually
calculate out to be a fair resale that once I
give out my commission, once I've spent all this money
on clips and bags and things to keep my bag precious,
if I am I just breaking even when I give
Gucci back the bag that they sold to me in
the first place. To answer your question, I think you
(33:24):
barely break even. My solution to that is something I'm
pretty passionate about. I can't believe I have the opportunity
to talk about this right now. Hold on, I'm excited.
Hold on, Talk that talk. This is a fun segment
we're gonna throw too, called talk that Talk. I'm gonna
give you thirty seconds to talk that talk. Whatever it
(33:45):
is you want to talk about, then go crazy. I
want to talk about sustainable fashion and how we should
buy better clothes so that they last us for longer
periods in our lives. They should be simple clothing, not
bad based clothing that you can wear when you turn
in twenty or when you turn forty. The kind of
clothes you see people like Eric Kabad where you're like,
how does she always look so cool? Well, Eric has
(34:07):
had like the same half for the past twenty years.
You develop your own style. You buy sustainable clothing that
can last forever. You don't make a plan to resell it.
You make a plan to keep it. It saves you
money in the long run, and it saves the environment.
Talk that talk that compute to the talk that talk
(34:29):
quin sustainable fashion. Motherfucker's stop buying all these trendy clothes
and buy some ship you could commit to for twenty years,
like Ericaba do marry it. Yeah, Thankston got married. It
can be done done. I'm treating your clothes like hose
and stop. I love that. Stop treating your hose like
(34:52):
no your clothes and vice versa. Treat these homes with
respect to like sustainable. You could call her again and
again for another twenty years. That's what I did with
my wife. That's beautiful. I remember when y'all said that
during your vows, I cried, you are a tasteful hat
(35:15):
that will always always be ready to wear. That's great. Um, yeah,
that's how I feel about that. And I think sustainable
fashion is like the answer to that and trying to
keep our stuff. Yes, I like that. Man. Here's here's
(35:35):
something that I was thinking about as I was doing
the research, and this this I guess maybe it aligns
with some of the things that I was talking about.
What do you think about Drake buying up all these
Valenciaga bags and then giving them to women as a
precious gift. Drake is such a complicated subject for me. Um,
(35:57):
I love Drake, big fan, like who Well, a lot
of people aren't, but I think they're just lying to themselves.
Drink is like ice cream at this point, Like you
don't you it's ice cream. You like it. Stop pretending
you don't like it. You may not want to eat
it all the time, but you know, if you go
you want some ice cream, I get it. You. Your
tummy hurts sometimes afterwards, but it's not because it didn't
(36:19):
taste good. It's because you got hang ups that you
gotta lactose in tolerant, but you know it's still good.
And then talk ful about Drake with him buying the
women bags. I've always had this thought with Drake where
he treats the woman who he sleeps with with whatever
they want, and I like that for them. I know
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for a fact I knew like a girl that dated
Drake and he treated her like a princess in that moment,
you know what I mean. No, I think Drake's made
it like pretty clear like he's not looking to wife
any of these women. And if you're like signing up
for that and you know what you're getting, then I
don't see a problem with it. Right, If there's an
unfair expectation being said that Drake's like telling all these
(37:05):
women he's going to marry them, then okay, maybe it's
a problem. But if he's not saying that and he's
like what do you want and she's like a person,
he's like I got you, or he's like, here's the
Valenciaga bag, just period, just because as I got it
and it's available to you. So while that goes against
everything I just said, well not really. If those girls
keep those they keep those backs, well I think what
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he's doing is offering them investment, much like much like
a parachute package for a person being fired from a
job that you know, they give you that golden parachute
where they say like, hey, you know, unfortunately we gotta
let you go. But here's here's a little severance. Valencia
(37:49):
took in there too. That's the that's the wallet. By
the way, you can take as many sick days as
you want. Now, every percent yours. But no, I think
Drake is essentially offering people, maybe one of the most
valuable severance packages that you can offer someone in a relationship,
(38:10):
and he gives it to you up front. He's like,
here's a severance package because this is going to end.
I'm talking you straight up. I ain't committed to you,
baby girl, but you don't have to commit to me.
Commit to this Valenciaga apparently they're like, uh, specially made right.
I don't know enough. The idea is that most of them,
they're all one of a kind, Like, well, I don't know.
(38:32):
That's a whole different subject. So why don't we talking
about this stuff? Okay? What Quinta is really trying to
fight the idea of like promoting Valenciaga materials on this
podcast where I clearly don't know what the funk it is.
My listeners aren't gonna be hard for me. You've You've
hit a really deep corner of me that really enjoys
brand names but want to fight against so hard. It's
(38:54):
this is a conundrum for me. You know, I think
if we're in agreement, I think we've discovered that the
white man is behind all of that urge, and uh,
the only thing we can do is try to identify
it and fight it at every corner. Thanks Linkston, it
feels good to always blame it on the way. Listen.
If I've learned anything, and I grew up with a
(39:15):
white father, and what I learned very quickly was it's
the white man's fault. I would wake up every day
and I would say, Daddy, I've got shipped to talk
to you about. And it ain't got nothing to do
with me. Your poor father. Yeah, he's been through a lot.
He raised two black boys and uh, both of them
are idiots. He was really nice. It's a beautiful man.
(39:40):
Not a big talker. He wouldn't do the podcast, but
a beautiful man. All Right, We're gonna take one more
break and We'll be back with more, my mama told me.
And we are back. Yeah, we're back with more, a
(40:05):
quintum person. We're back with my mama told me. We're
still talking about persons on the ground and how they
make you go broke. Did you hear that it would
make you go broke or you won't have any money period,
make you go broke. I think it was specifically, yeah,
you'll go broke. That in theory you have money now,
and then somebody would come in and snatch your ship
(40:26):
away because your person was on the ground. You know,
It's funny. I never looked at it like that. I
looked at it as your finances would go out of order.
I looked at it like you'll have financial disaster, like um,
somehow your funds. I'm all about like money management. I
get that from my dad. So to me, it fred
is like your funds will magically get mismanaged. You won't
(40:50):
be able to put them back together in in a
in a in a quick order. You know. Yeah, I
get that. It's not so much of like, oh you
are immediately about to lose everything, but just sort of
your life will unwind because you are mismanaging. Yes, yes,
some big on management like, like, I think that's also
my view of money to money. To a lot of people,
(41:14):
there's this view that like you magically have a lot
of it, or you magically don't. And I just never
looked at it that way. It was either a saving
thing or you manage what you have to get more
or manage it to have what you need. So to me,
it always read is like, oh, your management will mess
up your money. That okay, you are responsible for your money,
(41:38):
do the right thing with it. Yes, hell yeah. I
think similarly I was taught the same thing that like,
you can control this. This isn't like some scary monster
above you that is eating away at your pockets. Like
you're in charge. Take care of that ship, or don't
and stuffer the consequence. It's kind to do. I think
(42:01):
that's something I've learned from talking to you in the past,
just as friends and and not necessarily about money, but
our careers. How you've always i think looked at your
career is similar to how I look at it, where
we're very much uh in charge of things, and that
things are just happening to us, but that we're in
charge of how our careers go and how we take
(42:22):
our time to do what we would like to do
in our careers. Yeah, I think and maybe you feel
the same way. I think part of the reason that
I tend to lean on that is not because I
actually always feel like I'm in control, but I think
some of it is like an assertion of dominance over
a thing that otherwise feels like it's just taking you
(42:45):
the funk out. You know what I mean that, Like,
if you sit there and go like the Hollywood Monster
is in charge of everything that's happening to me, then
I'm just what am I doing? But if I say, like, no,
I'm in charge, I'm putting my hands all the wheel
and Terence Tower just saying say it, say it, and
I'm I'm in charge. Yes, I think we kind of
(43:05):
look at it the same way. We know that we're
not in charge. You're not in charge of anything in life,
but I'd like to be able to have to be Like,
just because our careers are crazy, doesn't mean that we
don't have any semblance of control over where we stand
in this crazy career. Yeah. I like that. All right,
let's play a game. You're down to play a game? Yeah,
I'm excited this is a fun game that I like
(43:26):
to call white lies. You're ugly, You're disgusting. I'm gonna
kill you. Give me two hell yeah, white Lies. It's
a beautiful game. In this game, I'm sorry, but you
need to tell me when dr Fields, I don't do
the actual research. I just find things that people say
(43:49):
and use them for snippets for my own pleasures and enjoyment. Okay,
I'll look that up after. I'm a rascal. So in
this game White Lies, you and I were gonna You're
specifically going to review a more traditional white conspiracy theory, right,
a conspiracy theory that is essentially a widely held belief
in the white community. And then I'm going to ask
(44:11):
you to explore why this conspiracy theory is so important
to white people. Why do they keep this going, What
are they trying to accomplish? What are those sneaky motherfucker's
up to get it? Okay, Gaalaine Maxwell, She's in the news.
This feels very poignant. She might be dead by the
(44:31):
time this podcast comes out, but who knows. But she's
in the news right now because obviously she's been arrested
and now they're claiming that she might be on suicide watch,
and everybody's going crazy because they want to know if
she's actually on suicide watch or if she is in
fact being once again sort of taken out by this
you know, higher power. And so my question for you,
(44:54):
the white lie that I would love for you to unpack,
is why do white people care so much if Jeffrey
Epstein killed himself. I think they care so much because
they need unbridled proof that Trump is a monster, and
I think we just know, so it's not that important
(45:16):
to us, Like it's more of a of course, of
course he had them killed, Like it's not really that Also,
who fucking cares? These are all horrible people anyway, Like
I don't care he's dead, like good written. I understand
that it makes it harder for Trump to get caught,
but I often look at the news and just like
(45:37):
white liberal Twitter, like you guys are worried about the
wrong things, like people are dying, people are out food
and water right now, I really don't as far as
I'm concerned. Those are more rich people problems to me.
They don't really affect my day to day Okay, hell yeah, yeah.
It feels in a lot of ways like they're committed
to it. I like what you're saying about. They need
definitive proof that these people, be Trump or the Clintons
(46:01):
or whoever else that they're accusing of having had him murdered,
are in fact bad people when black people are just like, no,
we knew, Yeah, but we knew y'all were bad whether
you killed this man or not. This does not offer
definitive proof for us at all. All it offers is
like one more notch on your belt of like bad,
(46:22):
you did right. And I feel like they keep giving
that to Trump, like it's always like, oh, he did
this again, and it's like how many times does he
have to do things for? You guys? Know, he's pretty
clear about it, like he's not hiding it. I'm starting
to think this guy is racist and it's like why,
But it's even the people who like know he's racist.
It's like the people, you guys, people who suck usually
(46:46):
suck in every arena. I wouldn't put it past him
to also be dabbling and fucking little kids, Like it's
not right, it doesn't have a cut off. Yeah, I'm
wanting to put a kid in a cage. You're definitely
willing to eat a little kid out. You know, I'm
just saying annoying, but no, you're right, but true though,
(47:08):
it's true, like that man is a monster in human form.
So I like don't understand when people are surprised by
new monstrous information about him. But I think they also
just feel like, if you get the pedophile thing, that's
what will prove it to the conservatives. And it's like, no,
the conservatives are in a cult, the Trumpers are. You
can't tell them anything about Trump that will change their minds.
(47:28):
They'll make up a used I think I also get
scared that like this sort of conspiracy theory train that
I think a lot of white people have gone on
has now split where it's not just conservative and liberal,
it's like now different tracks of both that have split
even more. And so like, even if we get to
(47:48):
the point where we prove that these people are in
fact pedophiles, are are in fact the human garbage that
they seem to be, it's not like that's gonna bring
us closer together. It's just gonna drive people further into
the ship. They already think it's true that information is
only useful and maybe um changing the minds of the
Trumpers who are not the Trump people, are not Conservatives,
(48:12):
they're not Republicans, they are different tear of people who
are in the middle of like the Republican conservative thing,
and like that information is not going to convince him,
Like his main fan base is going out and voting
for him in November, is not going to be convinced
by finding out that he's a pedipal, don't They don't care.
Those are the people who are in the cult, not
(48:34):
the Conservatives, not the Republicans, but them, and then the
other ones who are just still voting for him are
just completely going to hell, you know, because those are
the ones turning a blind eye. And it's just like, okay, well, yeah,
I think you know, at the end of the day,
it's it's people have picked their sides and so it
doesn't really matter what you discover in all of this,
(48:56):
which is part of why it's so fascinating that people
are like so pashing it about proving that Jeffrey Epstein
didn't kill himself. He's like, who are you trying to convince? Bro,
Like nobody's going to become a better person by the
revelation that comes out of this, and it's not gonna matter.
It makes no difference. It's not gonna matter. Even if
they find out the Trump today, He's not going to
(49:18):
jail for that. He's not He's not gonna allow himself to.
So it's just like, I don't really know the importance
in that. Just go go with your gut that he's
just bad and keep moving off of that. I think
the less attention we give to all of these things,
the that's the best we can do that even you
know we I'm sure you're tracking the journey of Kanye
(49:42):
and his presidency run. And like I refused to even
read the article. I was like, I can't go here
with I was a kid, you know what I mean?
When I fell in love with you. We have to
stop giving him attention. Yes, he can't be a thing anymore.
We just have to sit and decide that this is
just you are not a thing. I'm good. We ain't
(50:05):
it no more. You know what we did with people
like Chingy or like how we just decided as a culture,
you were no longer relevant. Your your opinions pull no
weight or anything. Uh, it was good while we knew you.
We need to do that with he who shall not
be named like, I think we have to stop allowing
(50:27):
that person to have the weight. I love that campaign speech.
Treat Kanye like chingy. Take it to the inner webs.
Kanye is chingy at this point as far as I'm concerned.
You know, what I mean is that I don't care.
I'm here. I hope Hope is thriving, but I'm not.
I am not going to root for him, nor am
(50:48):
I going to root against him. But I am not
giving Changy attention even if he comes out with a
brand new chicken head. And that's how I feel, and
I feel like we need to do that with that person,
and I just it's good I refew at this point,
I just I just can't even gave him Baltimore. I
(51:09):
love it because that's what he is. Look at this
and look at what's happening right now, Like you can't
summon him. You can't. It's a weird power. I think.
What's fascinating about he who shall not be named uh
(51:30):
is he's one of the first figures. And this is
a part of him that I do I am fascinated
with in slightly respect, is he's one of the first
black people in history who have upset almost literally every
faction of white America and still thrives as like he
didn't become a new thing, you know what I mean,
(51:52):
Like he's man the crazy he was and just amped
it up as he went along and somehow has has
not been broken in any way. Well yeah, I mean
it depends on how you look at the world and entertainment,
and I include politics and entertainment. It is now. But
(52:12):
I think for people who even quote unquote love him,
like I watch people talk about him in his legendary
status or like this is cool, blah blah blah. They
love the spectacle of him, and I think, like that's
the danger in that zone is once you give yourself
up to just be a spectacle to people, you're not
(52:34):
like living a full life anymore. You're not living um
in connection with the other human beings on on the ground,
because it's it's not you know, I think you and
I are pretty much I guess we're I wouldn't consider
myself liberal. I think I'm more like radical leading liberal,
and I feel like you're probably in the same boat.
But I don't feel like that person is in touch
(52:56):
with things, and now they don't have the ability to
be anymore. So it's hard for me to give them
any energy one. I think to your point, it's not human.
It's sort of like and there's no more ability to
even recognize what the human choices are just sort of
are moving. However, you can move for attention, and so
(53:17):
it's it's like, all right, well, whatever happens happens. But
I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna say some wild ship
and I'm gonna do something crazy and make people react.
Really and some of it you're sort of saying it
like you're so dead inside that that the only real
humanity you can find is if a hundred thousand people
are like you're a fucking idiot or you're thet in
(53:39):
the world or whatever. Yes, it's very joker like, like
I'm just going to create well not recent joker, but
joker everybody else. Yeah, Like I'm just going to be chaos,
and you like give yourself up to chaos, and so
that's what you come to bring us, like chaos seeing
(54:00):
to everyone in a while. And he's just throwing Mayhem
out of a red bag and is that not what
this was? Like the mind of my business? Not so right?
In July the fourth and I see that, and I'm
just like I was drunk and I read it and
I was like, oh come on man, and I didn't.
(54:20):
I kept drinking, but it didn't. It was like obstructive. Yes,
that's what That's what everyone's reaction was this time. I
was like, we have enough to deal with, Like now
you're just insert in chaos and tour and and that
to me is anti yes, yes, anti black. I think
I think to your point, any effort to create any
(54:43):
more mayhem than black people are already going through is
the most anti black thing you could do. Absolutely, I
can't believe that that person is doing this to us.
Any any semblance of respect I had, which had all
started going out the window since like four you ago.
It was absolutely going to be sure. If you do
something that makes my mama go, I don't know, I'm tired,
(55:05):
then you are active up. My mama's tired enough. Stop
doing ship that's gonna make my mama more tired. Seriously, like,
I can't, how did you listen? Why are we here? Oh? No,
you want to talk more about those beta vowls from before?
Everything so bad? Everything's made him, everything's chaos. You know,
(55:31):
a great time Yeah, this was a great time, Quinta,
this is it. That was the end of the game.
We just we just make up some bullshit and then
we go on. But this is a fun episode. Will
you tell all of my listeners where they can find you.
Where's the next cool thing they can see you doing?
Cool ship? Yeah? Sure, So this summer you can see
(55:54):
me on a new Sci Fi cartoon you can hear
me rather called Magical Girl Friendship Squad. It's actually really good.
I just saw the first episode and was blown away.
It takes a lot for me to be proud of
things that I'm in, but I'm actually just like, it's
just really fucking good. Um, so please check that out.
It comes on Sci Fi's new midnight um animation block
(56:16):
and I'm sure you can watch it anywhere. Other things
are things I can't talk about, so that sucks. And
follow follow me out on all the on all them apps. Yes,
follow me on Instagram. I'm taking a break from Twitter,
but follow me. I might tweet every once in a while. Um,
Quinta be on Instagram and Quentin bron and you can
follow me at Langston Kerman on all of the apps.
(56:39):
I ain't taking a break I'm toxic and then also
check out the boys September four. I'm gonna be up
in it and that's pretty Oh my god. Yeah, thatsing
that made me get buff for no reason to know
you were in it. How many episodes are you? We
can talk about this later, so yeah, we'll talk about
it there. I don't have to air out everything, you know. Well,
(57:01):
this has been another wonderful episode, and my mama told me,
thank you again to Quincy Brunston, good night, cover my
crown chips in your mails. Kuala Bears are racist. Also
(57:23):
players mostly money, many turney stuff. I can't tell me
I think there's probably a lot of laws about how
far a school nurse is allowed to dig in a
child's body. That's my expectation, is that, like, if you're
beyond like an inch and a half, all right, now,
this isn't far. It's the tips, the tip you might
be into this, we gotta call a professional that can
(00:24):
come back and take care of them. I don't know, baby,
that's bad child. We love to but can you're trying
to get me fired. Hold on, let me call the police.
Get out of here, like some chips in your racist
(00:51):
school school money stuff. I can't tell me. Yeah. Welcome,
ladies and gentlemen, to a beautiful episode, beautiful episode of
My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep
(01:12):
into the world of black conspiracy theories. And we do
it for our granddaddy's, we do it for our big mama's,
we do it for our pop pops, and most important,
we do it and we put our backs into it.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am your host, Lankston Kerman. As always,
I am so happy to be here with you. What
a treat of an episode we have. I'm doing well.
(01:36):
I'm drinking a new flavor of Lacroix today. It's called
lemon Cello. It tastes like all the other Lacroix, but
this one feels exciting. It's new, it's dangerous and I
can't wait for you kids to have it. I'm not
sponsored by Lacroix. I just funk with it and I
want to talk about it on here. But you know
what's more exciting than new flavors of Lacroix. It's my
(01:58):
guest today. She is wonderful. Do you know her from
a Black Lady sketch show? You know her from Laser Wolf,
you know her from most of the memes on the internet.
She is so funny. Give it up for the great
Quinto Brunson and what's up continuing to be a rich
(02:19):
white auntie talking about boy? It's the only way to
do it. Yeah. I like to put gin in there
and then I'm a London lady. It's beautiful. You need
to just try white clothes or truly they're good. I
drink them religiously. Now that's what I've become in quarantine.
Nice drink. Yeah. Is there a preferred white cloth flavor?
(02:41):
Is there? I hate to say it, but I just
tried the watermelon. I know, with an e er like,
I know, but it's really good. Why do we do
that to ourselves? Can you look into that on another
I do. It's an unfair thing we put on ourselves
(03:03):
to pretend as if watermelon flavor isn't the best flavor
and everything. Yeah, Dolly Ranchers, like, it's really good. I
don't know go through that. So I'm just trying to
give myself freedom, and I want to say that I
enjoyed the watermelon. That's right. Good for you. In quarantine,
you are liberating yourself in a different way. Sure you're
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stuck inside, but you can eat a watermelon. I didn't
eat a watermelon. You men eat a watermelon in your
window while your white neighbors watch. It's fine, it's delicious
for you. They're not judging. And once I get to
the center of the watermelon mayonade and you just keep going,
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it's so yeah, I get what you're doing. I'm very
excited for your topic. Most of the topics that we
get on this show so far have been about murdering mayhem.
They've been very heavy sub objects that's in some way
lend themselves to sort of like scary, big conspiracies, and
I think your conspiracy theory plays itself into a lighter space.
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There's certainly a less dramatic space. The topic you came
up with this conspiracy theory that you sent us was
my mama told me, if you put your purse on
the ground, you'll go broke. Yeah, yeah, I had. I've
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heard it before, but I don't carry your purse, so
it it didn't mean anything. So I want to know
what it meant to you. Why is this important? Okay? Yeah,
So I remember when I started carrying my own purse,
maybe when I was about like twelve or thirteen years old,
just as a little cute limited to fashion statement. Um,
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I used to like carried around and I have my
little dollars or whatever in there for getting water, ice
or like getting chips. So whenever I was about taking
from the corner store and I would put my purse
on the floor, like I'm saying it to you, like
put my person on the floor. But at the time
it didn't matter. But then yeah, you're like, in retrospect,
I was committing the greatest defend the greatest thing in
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my mom, who isn't a big like superstitious person, especially
because they're like very religious and stay away from those
kinds of notions. She was just like, pick your purse
up off the floor. If you put your purse on
the floor, you'll go broke. You always have to hang
it off the back of your chair or keep it
on your arm. Out little teeny capitalist me just like,
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was that was the worst? Talking money? All right, you're
talking money. I'm listening. So I was like, let me
pick my purse up off the and it just always
stuck with me, and now to this very day. You
can ask anybody I carry my purse on me at
all times. I have a bad habit of caring you
on the stages with me, like I'm doing stand up
and all because I just never wanted to touch the
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floor because is it's a superstition that's now embedded in
meow Okay, So I have so many questions, primarily you're
saying that your mother is not a superstitious person, that
in general she shies away from superstition. But that's when
she committed to Why do you think that is? You know,
I don't know. I never asked her that, but I
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would assume it was just because money was tight, anderstitious
about anything. It was going to be about money. I'm
gonna play about my money, yeah, because like we don't
she doesn't believe in magic. We didn't celebrate Christmas, No Sanda, no,
none of that ship. So that's why, Yeah, I think
it's stuck with me even more because she didn't have
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a bunch of like sayings like that floating around our house.
That was pretty much the only one. I was just like,
all right, I better not you know, right, Yeah, I
feel like money for black people, and money especially for
people who are sort of like the head of I
imagine your mom in this space was like the head
of the household, sort of like a person needing to
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manage a lot of people. It's not something you want
to joke about or even run the risk of, like
doing something playful with money. It's like, not, this is essential.
So if there's some saying out there, even if it's
not necessarily something I normally subscribe to, I'm gonna buy
into it right now because definitely, And there were five
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of us, five kids. My parents were Yeah, my parents
are you know, are together, they're married and stuff, and
we had a dual income household. But I just imagine
when you're taking care of five kids of varying ages
and trying to send in the college and stuff. Money
is important to hold onto no matter what name. And
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still you know the being conscious about money into us too.
So yeah, I also come from five, although ain't no
two parent combination for me that we all over the place. Uh,
but a little bit of this, a little d of that.
We're all got to have the same daddy. We we
know each other. But that being said, I it blows
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my mind all the time that at some point my
mom was having to feed four people, including herself and
then including her husband, yes, to make ends meet. Like
that's insane, links and it blows my mind. I have
straight up just called my mom out the blue in
the middle of the night and she's like, what's wrong.
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Are you dying? I'm like, no, I need to know
how you took care of I need to know how
you made that math math because this don't work in mind,
doesn't make sense. I'm trying to take the cat to
the vet, and I don't understand how you didn't that
with five human beings you loved and cared about, like
you had to keep us alive. I cannot I still
can't wrap my head. And that's the craziest thing. Like
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you're talking about taking your cat to the vet. That's
an expense that you probably didn't prepare for, right, and
you have the means, hopefully to be able to keep
your head alive and do what you need to do
for that can But the idea that a child get
something in their body that they then have to go
to the hospital for and you just have to come
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up with the money to make it work, it's insane,
Like you have to keep that human being alive. And yeah,
it's not the kind of cool to let them die,
even like you cannot joke about it at a party.
Have to do that. So I don't know how she
did it, So yeah, I mean, I guess that could
have gone into their money superstition. I remember one year
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when I was a kid. I uh, I think I
was in kindergarten and my friends and I dare at
each other to stick legos up our noses as one
as ought to do. And uh, at age five, we
were sticking legos up our noses and I stuck one
up my nose too far I could not get it out, yes,
and then had to go to the nurse, who then
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was like, I'm not legally allowed to get this out
or try to get this out, who then had to
call my mother, who then had to meet me at
the hospital so that they could remove this thing from
my nose, you know, through a surgery essentially, and the
amount of money that that probably costs my mom and
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having to leave her job and pay for a hospital
visit because I'm an idiot, So your parents are worried
about money, which subsequently makes them believe in this potential
conspiracy theory. And then you said something that's even more
interesting to me. You said that that you come from
a religious household. So they're pretty stringent. They're like hyper
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religious or they're just like we go to church every Sunday,
kind of vibe very very very religious. You know, both
of my parents were in our still Jehoa's Witness And
it's a pretty strict. Uh. It's it's kind of the
meeting of like the Quakers and the Christians, a Baptist Christian.
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So people don't know much about the religion, but to
give like a short answer, it's just pretty it's pretty strict.
They don't celebrate any holidays. They do believe in the Bible,
which is interesting to me because if you look at
the Bible from a different lens, it's really just folklore,
entails and magical believing. You know, sorry, America, you heard
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it here first, folks, Quintus said the Bible is made up.
You don't think it's true at all. If it weren't
for you, if it weren't your I just feel like
I need to and you're fine, But I do think
I think to your point that there is something really
fascinating about people who are religious saying I don't believe
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in superstition, when in essence, we don't have any definitive
proof of any of these things, and they're allegories that
were that are meant to lead our lives and hopefully
make us become better people. But it's not rooted in truth.
I don't truly believe that. Like a bush lit itself
on fire and then talk to Moses, I think my
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man got high and he thought about it. Maybe a
bush was a boy was huffing on some bush. And
then he was like, all right, I got some ideas,
maybe we shouldn't kill people. And everybody was like just
talking about loud, trying to say he has some good
weed that bush was sucking lit and talk to me. Um. Yeah,
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they're they're pretty religious people, so they don't believe in
many um, you know, just superstitions. So it was strange
to me that my mom believed in that one and
that it was put on to me. Yeah. I have
a cousin who was a former Jehovah's Witness and was
excommunicated because she got a divorce, and like that was
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a big thing at least in that community for her. Um.
But you know, the things that I've learned is sort
of that like, you don't get to make this about you, right,
Like a big part of Jehovah's Witness lifestyle is that
we're all trying to get ourselves into heaven and do
the work to get yourself into heaven because there are
limited seats, right, Like, yeah, there's like a thing it's
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like there'll only be a hundred and forty four thousand
that will go to heaven. So at some point you
just accept like you're not one of them, Like you
just settled for paradise on Earth after Armageddon and you're
trying to get there, right. So yeah, that's what it's
kind of built off. Of which is a whole other podcast.
Doesn't what's that guy's name, what's his name? He's he
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had the show on the show about stand up on
HBO whatever. He has a whole religion podcast. I need
to go get on that and talk about being a
Jehovah's witness. You and Prince y'all doing it. Yeah, a
lot of us. Prince did untill the day he died. Right.
He joined later, which was so unique. It's fascinating me
when people joined later in their lives. Uh, Michael Jackson
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started out as one, stop being one and then return
to the faith. Prince became one later. Both Venus and
Serena had grown up Jehoah's witnesses, Donald Glover, it's unique.
It's a weird, yeah, weird place. I will say that
as far as religions go, I respect the way that
Jehovah's Witnesses move like it's a it's a commitment to
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a thing that is often sort of like not demonstrated
in other forms of Christianity or even other religions where
it's like, no, I'm gonna go knock on doors, right
to go have these conversations with my My mom used
to sit down with some Jehovah's witnesses just to like
talk about the Bible, because they would show up every week.
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And she was like, all right, cool, if y'all are here,
I may not join the church, but y'all are cool people,
and you know, you feel it's your obligation to save
me from you know, my nation. So let's do it.
Let's let's see what happens. Maybe gonna talk. I'm into it. Yeah,
it's um a religion with strong conviction. Um, But like
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you know, it's not for everyone. But I don't have
any regrets being brought up in it. I think it
kept me out of a lot of trouble as a
young girl, but then I got older and decided it
wasn't for me. I think, just the way you can
do with any faith, and this is cool. It'll keep
you out of trouble. But like most religions, pretty much
all religions, it has this bullshit as well. Fair enough,
but so one of the things that I think is
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fascinating in relation to your conspiracy theory is this question
of how money plays a factor in the world of
the Jehovah's witnesses. Right, Like my understanding and correct me
if I'm wrong, I very well could be. Is that
money isn't meant to be a big thing for y'all. Yeah,
as opposed to like some of the more flamboyant churches
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in the black community. Yeah, um, you know, like there's
not a pastor who's driving a bents or anything like. Right,
the religion is really based in keeping things as simple
as possible. You go to work to get your money
that you need to feed your family and take care
of you know, bills and stuff. But uh, it doesn't
push like people making a ton of money or being greedy.
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It's actually the exact opposite. But it's like, don't take
part in like a capitalist society. Don't take part in
greed and needing to have so much money and the
most money with that though, you know, the less money
you have, the harder it is to keep everything in order.
It right. That's and that's the weird like loophole that
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nobody is really loophole isn't even the right word, but
sort of like caveat that nobody's mentioning is like it's
a lot easier to commit to this god if I
have at least a little bit of money, Man, I
love Jesus when I am broken. That's what kills me
all the time about people like like Kevin Hart, who
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was like, I love Jesus. Like I bet you do.
Think you're rich. Every rich person loves Jesus. It's so
easy for you guys. But that being said, you know,
Jesus is for everyone's faith and religion is for everyone.
So um, you know, I think most Christian people have
this either um old school Jesus approached to money, which
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is like he said, like none of us need anything
and we want to be simple and help our neighbors,
or you have like the new school approach to money,
which is like get your bread because Jesus said. So
you know, I'm like, what person, just shine and go ahead,
go ahead, look at you. Now you're Jesus looking good baby.
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So my parents subscribed to the former and they keep
it humble with money, but that means that they were
pretty good about managing their money. That's just like a
practical man. But he's practical, keeps money in the bank,
he always kept the lights on and everything. Same thing
with my mom. So I think they just were like,
if we're going to live this lifestyle, we got to
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make sure that money is managed. I'll say, yeah, of
your life siblings, are any of them now like still
fully committed to the way that your parents were living
or is everybody sort of like made concessions and sort
of moved in different directions As you can see, I'm
the complete opposite of what your it should be. But um, yeah,
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I think I have one sibling who's still in the faith,
but she'll never hear this. She's pretty much made her
own version of what it means to becoming Jehovah's witness
to her, which I admire a lot, because I think
the faith could use a little bit of a software upgrade,
Like I think they become lenient on some things and
like coming to the new world. But that's not for
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me to say. But you know, um, the rest of us,
my siblings, we all have gone our own different ways.
But you know, when you grow up that way, you
carry nuggets of your past and your faith with you.
You see it in a lot of religions where they're like, hey,
we're not allowed to eat pork or or or shellfish,
and it's like, okay, well, that's the remnant of a
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time when eating pork was so dangerous that it might
actually kill you. It's not applicable now. But if that's
something that you want to carry with you because you
feel like, okay, well it's a dirtier meat, Like I'm
not here to judge that, go ahead, do your thing,
just don't rarin my pork sandwich. Speaking of that, being
from Philly, where the majority of black people are Muslim,
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they don't eat pork, and so pork just isn't served
in Philadelphia a lot, not even like the white racist areas,
like pork is just not the main expert. So I
grew up not eating pork and I still carry that
with me to this day. And that's not even religious,
that's just Philly. I love the idea that a bunch
of like those Philly assholes are just like they're saying
the in word and they're keeping hellal the whole time.
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Both of those things can't be true, Like, fuck, you
get the funk out of our time. I'm gonna go
enjoy some nice to allow chicken. I can't work steaks.
It's true, it's and that that's something that's been carried
with me. Um not as a religion, not it came
from religion, but it's a cultural practice that or I
don't really work down. Do you feel like and maybe
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this is a tough question for you to answer, but
you're a Philly girl, you know Philly. Well, do you
feel like Philly is a superstitious town? Is there a
lot of superstition sort of lingering in the city. That's
a good question, Thank you. I thought of it myself.
Did you think of that just now? Just now? I
don't have any paper at all. That's a good question.
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I think that it might be. I've never given it
full thought, but now that you've asked me that, Um, well,
you guys are huge on sports. I was about to
say that, so huge sports town. And then besides that,
Philadelphia really is so diverse, And I didn't realize it
until left Philly how many different people were packed into
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one area. I mean as a huge Black, White, Hispanic
and Asian community, like big communities. And uh not only that,
like Philly had one of the first lgbt Q towns
in the country. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's crazy,
and I didn't know that until I got older. But
like it was just a way of life there, um
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and so that and then plus all the different religions,
huge Muslim population, huge Catholic and Christian, huge Jewish population,
And so I think because of that, just like I
said with the pork thing, I don't even know how
many things are floating through the air that are superstitions
from different cultures, Like you know what I mean, I
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definitely have a lot of sports to how much of
the things that you're growing up with are just something
that came from your home or because it was like
weirdly connected to like the way that the Phillies were
gonna win the World Series this year kind of thing. Yeah,
I have no idea, um what I thought it was
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weird when I went to college in Philly. You know,
everybody else came to Temple Um and other black people
were like eating pork. I just was like, I just
thought this was the thing that black people didn't do.
But that was the thing that you're just sitting there, like,
look at all these sellouts really just like the Devil
Worshipers everything on one of y'allss coons. All right, this
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is great, Well we're gonna take a break. We're gonna
come back with more Quinta Brunson and more. My mama
told me and we are back. Yeah, we're a year
(22:58):
with more Quinta brun and more of my mama told me,
and we are talking about her crazy, crazy conspiracy theory
that if you put your purse on the ground, you
will in fact go broke. And so I, Quenta uh,
did some research regarding your topic, regarding your conspiracy theory,
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and I myself, based on the research that I've gathered,
have sort of formed my own conspiracy theory that I
want us to get into. And I'm gonna throw it
out here now. I want your initial thoughts and then
we will unpack everything that I'm saying. But I do
believe based on everything that I've unpacked, and this will
be jarring for all of us. I truly believe that
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this conspiracy theory is the workings of the white man
and and capitalism. This is just the white man trying
to steal money out of poor people's pockets. Thoughts I
could believe, didn't I could believe it, didn't I say
in the beginning, little all capitalistm he was like, oh
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my god, my money. You know, so makes sense? Yeah, okay,
all right, you're not hating it so far. I'm glad
to hear it. Because I've got a lot to tell you.
So apparently the original sort of idea of this came
out of function. You've heard of function? Yeah, so I
only knew function. Yeah, that's my cousin. Yes, okay, So
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so functual, you know, is the ancient sort of Chinese
UH practice, I guess, or sort of pseudo science of
the way that you manipulate energy. I always knew it
as like placement of furniture in the room. That's what
I knew. Yeah. Yeah, so apparently it's more than that
and figured and we just picked the part that we're like,
(24:50):
we're like, all right, I'll move my couch so we
can say, ye, right now, you didn't do that. It
actually is super complicated and require tires you to like
analyze all these elements and sort of like harmonize all
these different parts of your environment. But beyond that, a
part of functional uh is this thing where they basically
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said a person on the floor is money out the door.
And part of where that came from for them was
this idea that if you put your purse on the floor,
if you put your money on the ground, you're not
taking your money your wealth. Seriously, you're treating it as
like a piece of ship, So you're gonna lose your
money like a piece of ship. M okay because of
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the floor, Like basically it's like the floor represents lack
of caring. Is that okay? Yeah, anything on the floor
is in essence you saying you don't care about it,
which makes sense, right, Like that's where that's where we
walk with our feet, that's where dark gathers. It's where
the things that we consider to be the lowest tend
to live. So you put your money down there, you
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obviously don't care about it. And so that evolves right
into like this thing where it sort of gets passed
down sort of like what you were saying about Philly,
that like other cultures pick it up in other places
start to take this idea seriously and they carry it
all the way to like you know, Old English people
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who begin to spread it like an old wives tale.
They're sort of like spreading this legend of like if
you put your money there, you're a bad person whatever whatever, um.
And that expands and and obviously it starts off as
just sort of like a share In Old English, they
didn't have it written down, so they just said it
out loud and then it later becomes like a written word. Right,
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all this to be said that in all the research
that I did, nearly everything that I uncovered, it all
starts with function, but then it ends with like advertisements
for purses or four bags or for resources related to bags,
you know what I mean. Yeah, okay, so it really
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has led to a ploy to sell a nicer purse,
so that the night on the floor and so all
I'm reading all these things that like I'm asking, you know, Google,
where does this come from? And they're like, well, it
comes from fungi. But it makes sense now because bags,
like as you well know, an expensive bag nowadays sometimes
can sell for sixty three of its value. Absolutely, and
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you know it's funny. But okay, let me like I
was gonna say it's funny about that is as I
got older, I'm not I'm not a big money spender.
That's not like my thing, you know me. I'm not
like a big flashy person. But one thing I both
spend money on is a purse. Yes, because I think subconsciously,
if my purse is very nice, I won't be tempted
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to put it on the floor. So if I buy myself.
I do like one of the first big purchases I
made when I started like making a good amount of
money was a Gucci purse And it didn't even go
with anything else I have because I'm just not a
you know what I mean, chuck out as an eye store,
Like why you got a Guccie person a white t on?
This ain't adding up your shirt. But it helped me
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to not put the purse on the floor. It gave
me a reminder to be like, this is too nice
to go on the floor. So no matter what, I
would make sure that that purse was was never on
the floor. So that's interesting exactly, so these purses, these
valuable items that you're buying are now even if they
are well kept, they said, you know, an expensive bag,
meaning like a bag from a nice place but not
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necessarily one of the highest end bags, is like worth
up to sixty three percent of its value if you
were to resell it on all of these places. Right,
but then this is a crazy part the limited edition bag.
So a bag like the one you bought, which is
probably it's Gucci, they're probably not making any more of those,
which means that like if you decided to sell it today.
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It actually could be sold for like exponentially more than
you pay for it. Yeah, absolutely, but only if you
keep it pristine and clean and all that stuff. And
so in unpacking this, I'm like, oh, that's dope. Well
that makes sense because money, you literally are putting money
on the floor. You're literally risking potential wealth in getting
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this thing dirty. But then I'm starting to think, but
who owns all this ship? You know what I mean?
Who gets paid from Gucci? The White Devil? Oh my god,
that's how they get. The White Devil gets you. And
he comes in and he he owns Gucci, he owns
Louis Vutton, he owns the other ones that I don't know. Quenta,
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is this how most of you? Is? This? Almost conspiracies?
And well this is where I start. And then I
stay awake all night in a rage. Got it, gotta
get it? Um, this is not unbelievable to me. I mean,
I think most things dealing with materialism all lead there.
So in other areas I'm so like aware of it
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and active against it. But the bad thing is one
I can't shape but here, and I don't think you
have to, because you can still come up in this.
But I'm starting to see the little signs, right. So
I looked up all these like resale options for bags,
and so there's places like Rule La La and the
Real Real and re Bag and they all sell your
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bags potentially and you can sell Oh, I did all
my research. I know about all these places. It's funny
for you to say, like, rude, real this was in
the real real right before. Is a real real good?
I have no idea real real is good. They Yeah,
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they resell very expensive items, that's what they do. So,
like they resell Gucci and Louis and um, you know
any other crazy brand you can think of. Yeah, and
I assume they take a commission of some kind. Yeah,
it's like, yeah, exactly, some super expensive thrift store. Yeah.
So okay, so let's say you want to sell the
thing on the real reel. But even if you don't
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want to sell the thing on the real road, when
you go to look up how can I resell my bag,
what you end up finding is that like all these
other different like options for selling stuff pop up. So
like you see things like bag hooks or these non
alcoholic wipes to keep your leather nice and soft and clean.
And bags to put around the bag so that your
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bag never has to come in contact with the world,
even though it probably looks ridiculous. Yeah, like, what are
we doing? Nothing kills me more than covers for things
like rembly. There was a point when people started wearing
shoe covers on their shoes. Yes, we went to six
Flags Great America for our prom after prom thing, I
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think most people do some version of that. And literally
everybody I knew had plastic bag on their new sneakers
because they rained the night before and they didn't want
to get like their white air force is dirty. It's like, hey, bro,
we're wearing trash on our feet. It isn't better, Like
we all look like assholes to protect shoes that you
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can't none of us can see. I don't know if
you're fresh or not. You're wearing trash. It deeply bothers me.
For for our people, it deeply bothers me. We'll move on,
and we'll move on, and I'm no better because I tried.
My heart is to keep my bags pristine, so I
get it. Sure, we're all fighting a hard fight right now.
I think just loving each other and trying to love
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our things while simultaneously holding ourselves accountable for our commitment
to capitalism. It's weird. It's too much. Um Okay, So
things like like uh, like the bags and the purse
clips and the wipes, they're all being sold to you
as a way of keeping this bag clean. And so
a part of me starts to ask, well it, I
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asked myself, and now I'm asking you, does it actually
calculate out to be a fair resale that once I
give out my commission, once I've spent all this money
on clips and bags and things to keep my bag precious,
if I am I just breaking even when I give
Gucci back the bag that they sold to me in
the first place. To answer your question, I think you
(33:24):
barely break even. My solution to that is something I'm
pretty passionate about. I can't believe I have the opportunity
to talk about this right now. Hold on, I'm excited.
Hold on, Talk that talk. This is a fun segment
we're gonna throw too, called talk that Talk. I'm gonna
give you thirty seconds to talk that talk. Whatever it
(33:45):
is you want to talk about, then go crazy. I
want to talk about sustainable fashion and how we should
buy better clothes so that they last us for longer
periods in our lives. They should be simple clothing, not
bad based clothing that you can wear when you turn
in twenty or when you turn forty. The kind of
clothes you see people like Eric Kabad where you're like,
how does she always look so cool? Well, Eric has
(34:07):
had like the same half for the past twenty years.
You develop your own style. You buy sustainable clothing that
can last forever. You don't make a plan to resell it.
You make a plan to keep it. It saves you
money in the long run, and it saves the environment.
Talk that talk that compute to the talk that talk
(34:29):
quin sustainable fashion. Motherfucker's stop buying all these trendy clothes
and buy some ship you could commit to for twenty years,
like Ericaba do marry it. Yeah, Thankston got married. It
can be done done. I'm treating your clothes like hose
and stop. I love that. Stop treating your hose like
(34:52):
no your clothes and vice versa. Treat these homes with
respect to like sustainable. You could call her again and
again for another twenty years. That's what I did with
my wife. That's beautiful. I remember when y'all said that
during your vows, I cried, you are a tasteful hat
(35:15):
that will always always be ready to wear. That's great. Um, yeah,
that's how I feel about that. And I think sustainable
fashion is like the answer to that and trying to
keep our stuff. Yes, I like that. Man. Here's here's
(35:35):
something that I was thinking about as I was doing
the research, and this this I guess maybe it aligns
with some of the things that I was talking about.
What do you think about Drake buying up all these
Valenciaga bags and then giving them to women as a
precious gift. Drake is such a complicated subject for me. Um,
(35:57):
I love Drake, big fan, like who Well, a lot
of people aren't, but I think they're just lying to themselves.
Drink is like ice cream at this point, Like you
don't you it's ice cream. You like it. Stop pretending
you don't like it. You may not want to eat
it all the time, but you know, if you go
you want some ice cream, I get it. You. Your
tummy hurts sometimes afterwards, but it's not because it didn't
(36:19):
taste good. It's because you got hang ups that you
gotta lactose in tolerant, but you know it's still good.
And then talk ful about Drake with him buying the
women bags. I've always had this thought with Drake where
he treats the woman who he sleeps with with whatever
they want, and I like that for them. I know
(36:42):
for a fact I knew like a girl that dated
Drake and he treated her like a princess in that moment,
you know what I mean. No, I think Drake's made
it like pretty clear like he's not looking to wife
any of these women. And if you're like signing up
for that and you know what you're getting, then I
don't see a problem with it. Right, If there's an
unfair expectation being said that Drake's like telling all these
(37:05):
women he's going to marry them, then okay, maybe it's
a problem. But if he's not saying that and he's
like what do you want and she's like a person,
he's like I got you, or he's like, here's the
Valenciaga bag, just period, just because as I got it
and it's available to you. So while that goes against
everything I just said, well not really. If those girls
keep those they keep those backs, well I think what
(37:26):
he's doing is offering them investment, much like much like
a parachute package for a person being fired from a
job that you know, they give you that golden parachute
where they say like, hey, you know, unfortunately we gotta
let you go. But here's here's a little severance. Valencia
(37:49):
took in there too. That's the that's the wallet. By
the way, you can take as many sick days as
you want. Now, every percent yours. But no, I think
Drake is essentially offering people, maybe one of the most
valuable severance packages that you can offer someone in a relationship,
(38:10):
and he gives it to you up front. He's like,
here's a severance package because this is going to end.
I'm talking you straight up. I ain't committed to you,
baby girl, but you don't have to commit to me.
Commit to this Valenciaga apparently they're like, uh, specially made right.
I don't know enough. The idea is that most of them,
they're all one of a kind, Like, well, I don't know.
(38:32):
That's a whole different subject. So why don't we talking
about this stuff? Okay? What Quinta is really trying to
fight the idea of like promoting Valenciaga materials on this
podcast where I clearly don't know what the funk it is.
My listeners aren't gonna be hard for me. You've You've
hit a really deep corner of me that really enjoys
brand names but want to fight against so hard. It's
(38:54):
this is a conundrum for me. You know, I think
if we're in agreement, I think we've discovered that the
white man is behind all of that urge, and uh,
the only thing we can do is try to identify
it and fight it at every corner. Thanks Linkston, it
feels good to always blame it on the way. Listen.
If I've learned anything, and I grew up with a
(39:15):
white father, and what I learned very quickly was it's
the white man's fault. I would wake up every day
and I would say, Daddy, I've got shipped to talk
to you about. And it ain't got nothing to do
with me. Your poor father. Yeah, he's been through a lot.
He raised two black boys and uh, both of them
are idiots. He was really nice. It's a beautiful man.
(39:40):
Not a big talker. He wouldn't do the podcast, but
a beautiful man. All Right, We're gonna take one more
break and We'll be back with more, my mama told me.
And we are back. Yeah, we're back with more, a
(40:05):
quintum person. We're back with my mama told me. We're
still talking about persons on the ground and how they
make you go broke. Did you hear that it would
make you go broke or you won't have any money period,
make you go broke. I think it was specifically, yeah,
you'll go broke. That in theory you have money now,
and then somebody would come in and snatch your ship
(40:26):
away because your person was on the ground. You know,
It's funny. I never looked at it like that. I
looked at it as your finances would go out of order.
I looked at it like you'll have financial disaster, like um,
somehow your funds. I'm all about like money management. I
get that from my dad. So to me, it fred
is like your funds will magically get mismanaged. You won't
(40:50):
be able to put them back together in in a
in a in a quick order. You know. Yeah, I
get that. It's not so much of like, oh you
are immediately about to lose everything, but just sort of
your life will unwind because you are mismanaging. Yes, yes,
some big on management like, like, I think that's also
my view of money to money. To a lot of people,
(41:14):
there's this view that like you magically have a lot
of it, or you magically don't. And I just never
looked at it that way. It was either a saving
thing or you manage what you have to get more
or manage it to have what you need. So to me,
it always read is like, oh, your management will mess
up your money. That okay, you are responsible for your money,
(41:38):
do the right thing with it. Yes, hell yeah. I
think similarly I was taught the same thing that like,
you can control this. This isn't like some scary monster
above you that is eating away at your pockets. Like
you're in charge. Take care of that ship, or don't
and stuffer the consequence. It's kind to do. I think
(42:01):
that's something I've learned from talking to you in the past,
just as friends and and not necessarily about money, but
our careers. How you've always i think looked at your
career is similar to how I look at it, where
we're very much uh in charge of things, and that
things are just happening to us, but that we're in
charge of how our careers go and how we take
(42:22):
our time to do what we would like to do
in our careers. Yeah, I think and maybe you feel
the same way. I think part of the reason that
I tend to lean on that is not because I
actually always feel like I'm in control, but I think
some of it is like an assertion of dominance over
a thing that otherwise feels like it's just taking you
(42:45):
the funk out. You know what I mean that, Like,
if you sit there and go like the Hollywood Monster
is in charge of everything that's happening to me, then
I'm just what am I doing? But if I say, like, no,
I'm in charge, I'm putting my hands all the wheel
and Terence Tower just saying say it, say it, and
I'm I'm in charge. Yes, I think we kind of
(43:05):
look at it the same way. We know that we're
not in charge. You're not in charge of anything in life,
but I'd like to be able to have to be Like,
just because our careers are crazy, doesn't mean that we
don't have any semblance of control over where we stand
in this crazy career. Yeah. I like that. All right,
let's play a game. You're down to play a game? Yeah,
I'm excited this is a fun game that I like
(43:26):
to call white lies. You're ugly, You're disgusting. I'm gonna
kill you. Give me two hell yeah, white Lies. It's
a beautiful game. In this game, I'm sorry, but you
need to tell me when dr Fields, I don't do
the actual research. I just find things that people say
(43:49):
and use them for snippets for my own pleasures and enjoyment. Okay,
I'll look that up after. I'm a rascal. So in
this game White Lies, you and I were gonna You're
specifically going to review a more traditional white conspiracy theory, right,
a conspiracy theory that is essentially a widely held belief
in the white community. And then I'm going to ask
(44:11):
you to explore why this conspiracy theory is so important
to white people. Why do they keep this going, What
are they trying to accomplish? What are those sneaky motherfucker's
up to get it? Okay, Gaalaine Maxwell, She's in the news.
This feels very poignant. She might be dead by the
(44:31):
time this podcast comes out, but who knows. But she's
in the news right now because obviously she's been arrested
and now they're claiming that she might be on suicide watch,
and everybody's going crazy because they want to know if
she's actually on suicide watch or if she is in
fact being once again sort of taken out by this
you know, higher power. And so my question for you,
(44:54):
the white lie that I would love for you to unpack,
is why do white people care so much if Jeffrey
Epstein killed himself. I think they care so much because
they need unbridled proof that Trump is a monster, and
I think we just know, so it's not that important
(45:16):
to us, Like it's more of a of course, of
course he had them killed, Like it's not really that Also,
who fucking cares? These are all horrible people anyway, Like
I don't care he's dead, like good written. I understand
that it makes it harder for Trump to get caught,
but I often look at the news and just like
(45:37):
white liberal Twitter, like you guys are worried about the
wrong things, like people are dying, people are out food
and water right now, I really don't as far as
I'm concerned. Those are more rich people problems to me.
They don't really affect my day to day Okay, hell yeah, yeah.
It feels in a lot of ways like they're committed
to it. I like what you're saying about. They need
definitive proof that these people, be Trump or the Clintons
(46:01):
or whoever else that they're accusing of having had him murdered,
are in fact bad people when black people are just like, no,
we knew, Yeah, but we knew y'all were bad whether
you killed this man or not. This does not offer
definitive proof for us at all. All it offers is
like one more notch on your belt of like bad,
(46:22):
you did right. And I feel like they keep giving
that to Trump, like it's always like, oh, he did
this again, and it's like how many times does he
have to do things for? You guys? Know, he's pretty
clear about it, like he's not hiding it. I'm starting
to think this guy is racist and it's like why,
But it's even the people who like know he's racist.
It's like the people, you guys, people who suck usually
(46:46):
suck in every arena. I wouldn't put it past him
to also be dabbling and fucking little kids, Like it's
not right, it doesn't have a cut off. Yeah, I'm
wanting to put a kid in a cage. You're definitely
willing to eat a little kid out. You know, I'm
just saying annoying, but no, you're right, but true though,
(47:08):
it's true, like that man is a monster in human form.
So I like don't understand when people are surprised by
new monstrous information about him. But I think they also
just feel like, if you get the pedophile thing, that's
what will prove it to the conservatives. And it's like, no,
the conservatives are in a cult, the Trumpers are. You
can't tell them anything about Trump that will change their minds.
(47:28):
They'll make up a used I think I also get
scared that like this sort of conspiracy theory train that
I think a lot of white people have gone on
has now split where it's not just conservative and liberal,
it's like now different tracks of both that have split
even more. And so like, even if we get to
(47:48):
the point where we prove that these people are in
fact pedophiles, are are in fact the human garbage that
they seem to be, it's not like that's gonna bring
us closer together. It's just gonna drive people further into
the ship. They already think it's true that information is
only useful and maybe um changing the minds of the
Trumpers who are not the Trump people, are not Conservatives,
(48:12):
they're not Republicans, they are different tear of people who
are in the middle of like the Republican conservative thing,
and like that information is not going to convince him,
Like his main fan base is going out and voting
for him in November, is not going to be convinced
by finding out that he's a pedipal, don't They don't care.
Those are the people who are in the cult, not
(48:34):
the Conservatives, not the Republicans, but them, and then the
other ones who are just still voting for him are
just completely going to hell, you know, because those are
the ones turning a blind eye. And it's just like, okay, well, yeah,
I think you know, at the end of the day,
it's it's people have picked their sides and so it
doesn't really matter what you discover in all of this,
(48:56):
which is part of why it's so fascinating that people
are like so pashing it about proving that Jeffrey Epstein
didn't kill himself. He's like, who are you trying to convince? Bro,
Like nobody's going to become a better person by the
revelation that comes out of this, and it's not gonna matter.
It makes no difference. It's not gonna matter. Even if
they find out the Trump today, He's not going to
(49:18):
jail for that. He's not He's not gonna allow himself to.
So it's just like, I don't really know the importance
in that. Just go go with your gut that he's
just bad and keep moving off of that. I think
the less attention we give to all of these things,
the that's the best we can do that even you
know we I'm sure you're tracking the journey of Kanye
(49:42):
and his presidency run. And like I refused to even
read the article. I was like, I can't go here
with I was a kid, you know what I mean?
When I fell in love with you. We have to
stop giving him attention. Yes, he can't be a thing anymore.
We just have to sit and decide that this is
just you are not a thing. I'm good. We ain't
(50:05):
it no more. You know what we did with people
like Chingy or like how we just decided as a culture,
you were no longer relevant. Your your opinions pull no
weight or anything. Uh, it was good while we knew you.
We need to do that with he who shall not
be named like, I think we have to stop allowing
(50:27):
that person to have the weight. I love that campaign speech.
Treat Kanye like chingy. Take it to the inner webs.
Kanye is chingy at this point as far as I'm concerned.
You know, what I mean is that I don't care.
I'm here. I hope Hope is thriving, but I'm not.
I am not going to root for him, nor am
(50:48):
I going to root against him. But I am not
giving Changy attention even if he comes out with a
brand new chicken head. And that's how I feel, and
I feel like we need to do that with that person,
and I just it's good I refew at this point,
I just I just can't even gave him Baltimore. I
(51:09):
love it because that's what he is. Look at this
and look at what's happening right now, Like you can't
summon him. You can't. It's a weird power. I think.
What's fascinating about he who shall not be named uh
(51:30):
is he's one of the first figures. And this is
a part of him that I do I am fascinated
with in slightly respect, is he's one of the first
black people in history who have upset almost literally every
faction of white America and still thrives as like he
didn't become a new thing, you know what I mean,
(51:52):
Like he's man the crazy he was and just amped
it up as he went along and somehow has has
not been broken in any way. Well yeah, I mean
it depends on how you look at the world and entertainment,
and I include politics and entertainment. It is now. But
(52:12):
I think for people who even quote unquote love him,
like I watch people talk about him in his legendary
status or like this is cool, blah blah blah. They
love the spectacle of him, and I think, like that's
the danger in that zone is once you give yourself
up to just be a spectacle to people, you're not
(52:34):
like living a full life anymore. You're not living um
in connection with the other human beings on on the ground,
because it's it's not you know, I think you and
I are pretty much I guess we're I wouldn't consider
myself liberal. I think I'm more like radical leading liberal,
and I feel like you're probably in the same boat.
But I don't feel like that person is in touch
(52:56):
with things, and now they don't have the ability to
be anymore. So it's hard for me to give them
any energy one. I think to your point, it's not human.
It's sort of like and there's no more ability to
even recognize what the human choices are just sort of
are moving. However, you can move for attention, and so
(53:17):
it's it's like, all right, well, whatever happens happens. But
I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna say some wild ship
and I'm gonna do something crazy and make people react.
Really and some of it you're sort of saying it
like you're so dead inside that that the only real
humanity you can find is if a hundred thousand people
are like you're a fucking idiot or you're thet in
(53:39):
the world or whatever. Yes, it's very joker like, like
I'm just going to create well not recent joker, but
joker everybody else. Yeah, Like I'm just going to be chaos,
and you like give yourself up to chaos, and so
that's what you come to bring us, like chaos seeing
(54:00):
to everyone in a while. And he's just throwing Mayhem
out of a red bag and is that not what
this was? Like the mind of my business? Not so right?
In July the fourth and I see that, and I'm
just like I was drunk and I read it and
I was like, oh come on man, and I didn't.
(54:20):
I kept drinking, but it didn't. It was like obstructive. Yes,
that's what That's what everyone's reaction was this time. I
was like, we have enough to deal with, Like now
you're just insert in chaos and tour and and that
to me is anti yes, yes, anti black. I think
I think to your point, any effort to create any
(54:43):
more mayhem than black people are already going through is
the most anti black thing you could do. Absolutely, I
can't believe that that person is doing this to us.
Any any semblance of respect I had, which had all
started going out the window since like four you ago.
It was absolutely going to be sure. If you do
something that makes my mama go, I don't know, I'm tired,
(55:05):
then you are active up. My mama's tired enough. Stop
doing ship that's gonna make my mama more tired. Seriously, like,
I can't, how did you listen? Why are we here? Oh? No,
you want to talk more about those beta vowls from before?
Everything so bad? Everything's made him, everything's chaos. You know,
(55:31):
a great time Yeah, this was a great time, Quinta,
this is it. That was the end of the game.
We just we just make up some bullshit and then
we go on. But this is a fun episode. Will
you tell all of my listeners where they can find you.
Where's the next cool thing they can see you doing?
Cool ship? Yeah? Sure, So this summer you can see
(55:54):
me on a new Sci Fi cartoon you can hear
me rather called Magical Girl Friendship Squad. It's actually really good.
I just saw the first episode and was blown away.
It takes a lot for me to be proud of
things that I'm in, but I'm actually just like, it's
just really fucking good. Um, so please check that out.
It comes on Sci Fi's new midnight um animation block
(56:16):
and I'm sure you can watch it anywhere. Other things
are things I can't talk about, so that sucks. And
follow follow me out on all the on all them apps. Yes,
follow me on Instagram. I'm taking a break from Twitter,
but follow me. I might tweet every once in a while. Um,
Quinta be on Instagram and Quentin bron and you can
follow me at Langston Kerman on all of the apps.
(56:39):
I ain't taking a break I'm toxic and then also
check out the boys September four. I'm gonna be up
in it and that's pretty Oh my god. Yeah, thatsing
that made me get buff for no reason to know
you were in it. How many episodes are you? We
can talk about this later, so yeah, we'll talk about
it there. I don't have to air out everything, you know. Well,
(57:01):
this has been another wonderful episode, and my mama told me,
thank you again to Quincy Brunston, good night, cover my
crown chips in your mails. Kuala Bears are racist. Also
(57:23):
players mostly money, many turney stuff. I can't tell me
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