November 10, 2020 • 61 mins
Were white people created by an ancient Black scientist? Langston and his guest Zack Fox (Jesus Is The One on Spotify) explore the science and the religion behind this devastating claim.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A spum. Going through a vagina is like trying to
walk through a hookah bar in Atlanta, Like you really
might not between the smoke and dad bitches and niggas
were guns and like maybe a hoverboard that might be
boost on the ground, Like something's gonna happen. Hey, you've
got a lot of obstacles to get through the floor's lava,
(00:24):
and you gotta get the funk through this hookah bar
and essentially become the greatest leader to ever leave if
you can make it to the end. Chips in your
racists money stuff, I can't tell me. Yeah, welcome late,
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he's in gentlemen to an exceptional, a devastating, a thick
booty episode of My Mama Told Me the podcast where
we died deep, deep into the crevices of black conspiracy theories,
and we worked to prove that Alicia Keys may not
wear makeup on her face, but she absolutely puts makeup
(01:21):
on her feet. She gotta only fans and she's posting
feet picks with makeup on them. Tell the people, Alicia,
we know it's you. Stop pretending like this is some
other lady. That's you, Alicia. You put makeup on your
feet and we know it. I'm your host, Lankston Kerman.
As always, I'm excited to be here. What an exciting
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time we have, mainly because my guest today is one
of the funniest people I know. If he's so funny,
he's responsible for a pretty much every cool trend that's
ever existed on the Internet. He was so funny at
one point that Twitter asked him politely to leave. They
were like, this, nigga's too funny. He gotta get the
funk out of here. But then they let him back
in and he's still being hilarious. You guys know him,
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you love him. Give it up for my guest, Mr
Zach five. Hello, Hello, what's up? Yeah? What I've done?
I'm killing man. I'm over here in Atlanta, Man, just
like drinking juices and the rain, like bird scooter and around.
This is exciting just listening things you could have done
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in l A, but you're like, no, I'm doing in Atlanta.
I'm doing it in Atlanta. Yea. So now, what are
there like special juices in Atlanta that you're like, it's
happy to have, you know, gone back and be able
to experience again. Is there anything? Yeah, there's a spec.
There's a juice shop out here called Kill Me Crazy,
which is awful, terrible name, but um, the girls who
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worked at the one by Me are like you could
just tell they're like they're just so over it, like
to just like really cool, just Atlanta chicks. You're like,
they're like Nigga, which you want and your juice? Like
don't like tumeric? Okay, what next? Like okay stirrelina, Like
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they make it with such attitude that it's a better
juice experience. I feel like I feel like I agree.
You know, there's nothing there's something about someone being mean
to you when you order something that makes you feel like, well,
this is gonna be worth it is because it's like,
well I better enjoy this because they don't give a
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fun right, they don't give a funk. This felt like
a fistfight just ordering a basic item. So this is
probably gonna be the best experience that I have eating. Yeah,
I feel like there is a a paralyzing aspect of hospitality.
You like, sometimes when things are too nice, you don't
really uh feel grateful for it, you know what I mean?
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Like you you should be able to you should have
to struggle for nice things sometimes right, it's a hunter
gatherers ship in us, you know what I mean? Like
we used to have to really murder something to enjoy
a meal, and now we it's just sort of laid
in front of us, and it feels like we always
deserve this. But those small moments kind of bring us
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back to that animalistic energy where it's like, Damn, I
had to I had to get cussed the funk out
so that I can enjoy some kill drinks. Gonn, this
matters to me. That's why I'm open a vegan restaurant.
Uh where you know you gotta get jumped just to
finish your meal. Wait, they don't. So you're saying they
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don't jump you to get the meal. It's just at
some point in the mill, at some point you're gonna
have to protect You're gonna have to protect yours and
if you're not ready for that, then maybe you shouldn't
be trying to. Maybe you just need to go up
to McDonald's and like experience the easy fast food. But
this helps, You're gonna have to earn it around here, boy,
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you better go back and get your radiated burger mode.
Want this here, you want beyond me. You're gonna have
to get this beyond me. You can stop. You're getting
hands dog. I love that. I love that so much.
And if there's anything I can do to help fund
your restaurant without getting jumped, I'd happily do that. I
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do need money. Yes, well, I think this episode is
not going to help us get any money today. I
think that this episode actually has the potential to make
us lose quite a bit of money if we if
we're being honest, because you came to me with a
conspiracy theory that terrifies the ship out of me. But
you said, and I want to quote you here, you said,
my mama told me white people were invented by an
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ancient black scientist. Yes, who yea, just that thing can
tell me more. It's probably the most dangerous subject matter
that we could decide to drive into. But it's also
the funniest and the most uh the most right to
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be like a manga better than novelto I feel like, yes,
oh my god, yes, Because even when I told Nikki
about it, right, I told my wife, like, yo, this
is the the conspiracy theory that that Zach was talking about.
She was like, that should be a show, and I
was like, nah, it can't be no show. But also,
you're right, it should be a show. It's one of
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those things that it literally cannot be a show just
because it's so like both sides, white and black would
be so upset by it, because there are people who
genuinely believe it, and there are people who are genuinely like,
this is crazy. This is the most offensive thing I've
ever experienced. But if it was an anime, it would
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just be like if it was even just a live
action movie, it probably sell Lord of the Rings. I
don't I don't disagree with that. I think that this
has the potential to be one of the greatest box
office hits of all time if only people could put
their pride side and just except that maybe a black
scientist inventing white people is a fascinating fucking story. It's
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fascinating if we could get rid of the hate behind
it and behind all those things, all those nasty things
that everybody talks about on a daily basis, and uh,
if we can just look past that and look at
how funny and great the story is and how like
chock full of science fiction gold it is, then it
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would be so good. It would be good. It'd be good.
It's a perfect story. So tell me. Let's let's start
from the beginning. Where where did you first hear this theory,
this suggestion. So contrary to the title of your podcast,
my mom didn't tell me this. My mom is a
very staunch Southern Baptist Christian woman who would never believe
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in something as crazy as a guy. Uh, this wasn't
This wasn't popping up in church when y'all were going
as kids. I mean, you know, Christians, we got our own.
You know, I'm not a Christian, but girl, I grew
up in the church. So I say our because it's
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like I was shooting in the jim. But you know,
we have our we have our own, like weird. Everybody
knows we have our own. Were we drink blood and
it's great, Like that's weird. But yeah, a man claimed
that God told him to, you know, stab his son
in the middle of the desert when he was like
and then he was like he was really gonna do that, right?
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Weird how we supposed of all going together now he
was acting like that. Weird. But yeah, I first heard
this theory from when I was super little, like maybe
five or six. My mom used to let me just
kind of like hang out in our neighborhood. In our
neighborhood was like super rundown, but like very multicultural, and
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it was just like poor working class white, black and
Latino people in Savannah. And I used to hang out
with these group of dudes who would just hang out
and like drink natty light and uh and smoke bad
cigarettes and eat sunflower seeds all day. And one's name
was Bobby and he looked like Charles Manson. And the
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another dude's name, I should you not. His name on
the street was Biscuit, and he was this dirty blond,
white dude with ipat who wore a black wife beater
and jeans shorts every day us. And well, first of all,
let me just say how happy I am that Biscuit
was a white dude with an ipatch and not what
I immediately presumed, which was a big as black man's comforting.
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Yeah he was, Yeah, he was switching up everything. Um,
this guy outsold everybody. So uh. They hung out with
this black do in the neighborhood named Joe and Joe
one day, like they would sit and talk about conspiracy stuff.
And I was a kid like, I didn't know what
they were talking about, but I would just kind of
sit around and listen, and you know, one day Bobby
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was like, oh, well, you know, in the year twelve,
the magnetic poles of the Earth they're gonna switch and
it's gonna cause the apocalypse. And then Biscuit was like, oh, well,
didn't y'all know that the Illuminati do this? And da
da da. So Joe had to come with his you know,
he had to come with some heat. And he was like, well,
both of y'all shut up because did y'all know that
we and then the y'all and it was like a
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bomb went off the side of my head. I was like, Joe,
what Joe? Joe. Joe didn't really say nothing crazy like
that on a regular basis. He would just kind of like,
you know, spit some flower seeds and you know. But
he came with some heat. So I was like what
And they were like, what are you talking about? And
he introduces the story of Yakubu, which was a nation
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of Islam. It's nation an islam source material um written
by uh It was it was expanded on by Elijah Mohammed,
but hoble Um and yeah, you just proceeded to tell
them like a very a shortened bridge drunk country Nigga
version of that story. And uh, I was kind of
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like changed forever. Mow. You said Joe was a quiet guy.
I love that that. Joe was just sort of sitting
back letting these guys talk amongst themselves every day because
secretly he knew, Man I invented y'all, y'all ain't even real.
You're you're subset of some ship that I already am.
So go ahead, talk, you're crazy talk exactly to even
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sit there and watch them spit their conspiracy theories. I
saw him just he had this look in his eyelight,
you're stupid motherfucker's I'm about to hit y'all with some
crazy ship. Oh you think twelve is a thing? Get
the fun out? Yeah, okay, okay, alright, biscuit, okay, aluminaity,
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we get now. I got some ship for you. You
ain't a real human, biscuit bits, you are the second
draft of humans. But then, like you know, the strange
effect of it was watching them called his theory crazy
when you know we're all out that they were all
out there saying wild stuff. You know what I mean,
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like from assassination theories too. You know, this was shortly
after tupacs, so they were coming with two pop theories
and stuff, and you know the fact that this guy
was like white people were invented by ancient scientists with
a giant head. They were like, well, that's just silly.
Now you're being ridiculous. And I was on Joe side
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when I was like, well why not. Okay, okay, now
you're getting into something fascinating because you're saying that. When
Joe said this, you know, Biscuit and Uh and the
other gentleman whose name I don't remembers gonna living met
Bobby Uh, they immediately are like, NA, get the funk
out of here. But that wasn't your instinct. My first
instinct was to be like, Okay, that's insane. But it
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wasn't even that I believed that what he was saying.
Just like Joe, the way he looked like, I don't
even know whose family Joe was in. He was just
like an older black dude with a salt and pepper
beard who was just like a Southern dude. And and
me being from the South, it was like, man, I'm
gonna just take his side, because just getting an elder
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quality to yeah, whether he's wrong or right. I was
just like, man, I gotta just I gotta stick with
this guy because you're talking about the magnetic poles and
you're talking about the Illuminati, and he's talking about a
big head scientist so um, and he's black, so I'm
I'm a stand over here, So I kind of stood
over next to him, I mean, and honestly, of the
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three options, his is the the least scary, do you
know what I mean? Like, if you're telling me that
the world is going to end, one of you was
saying that the fucking apocalypse is coming. The other one
is saying that, like there is an organization that decides
every move that I make out in the world. And
this dude's just saying, you know, you ain't exactly real people,
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but otherwise, like you can still be happy and exist
and talk all your ship and we can enjoy some
flower seeds in thatty light. Yeah exactly. And it was
like that whole like birden of proof thing. They were like,
you can't prove that that happened, and he was like, well,
you can't prove that it didn't happen, and and that
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music played. The music played, and you know, Bobby and Biscuit,
they're both war vets. Bobby was in Vietnam and Biscuit
had just done he just came from like desert storm.
But I was too young to remember all that. But right,
they were both war Vets and they were drunk as fun.
So that basic logical fallacy that Joe hit them with
they didn't know how to argue with, which it's a
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very simple thing. It's a simple thing to argue. But
they were just like, damn, you got a point. We
can't really not prove. It's like he did that got
your nose ship And they couldn't see their nose from
their eyes. They're like, I don't know if you got
my nose. I can't tell. So to see someone like
bested by that, you know, in hindsight, I was like, damn, man,
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he really he won the fight. Well, that's such a
fascinating element to all conspiracy theory, right, is that it
really is just a game of who can prove their
point in the moment. It isn't like who can ultimately
prove their point through research and science and in fact
based findings. It's just like, okay, who can make their
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argument sound enough in this exact moment that you essentially
build an acolyte. You build somebody who's then going to
follow your logic and spread that theory to someone else.
Conspiracy theories and discussing them is a lot like roasting,
where yeah, getting everyone on your side. It's more important
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to have everyone on your side. And when in the moment,
like you're talking, it's like you might even you might
say a joke that don't even make sense about somebody,
you know what I mean, This thinker built like racado toast,
And then everybody's like, it's like they just doesn't mean anything.
That doesn't mean anything, but you you're just getting your
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glass book. Like in the moment, right, avocado toast isn't
shaped any different than any other toast. This isn't like
it's you just added a little qualifier to it and
somehow it's way funnier. So you're the best. Then this
person sucks and now people are like, oh, well, what
the avocado toast shape? Nick, don't say, And then if
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you say that doesn't make sense, then they're gonna go,
oh this thinking mad now, like look at you avocado
toast wanna shape most out exactly. I I totally agree.
I think that that it does have this quality of
just like who can you convinced in the moment, and
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if you can do it effectively, then you are the
winner of conspiracy theory or roasting or whatever, you know,
sort of like, uh, that's what religion is sort of
you know what I mean. It's just like who the
funk was listening at the time that the best dude
was talking, and then somebody decided to write that down.
Who wrote it down, and who's writing survived through history
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through different ship getting conquered, through different ships, getting burnt down,
through natural disasters, you know, in a way like any
religion that exists still today. It's like the sperm that
one kind of namic where I'm like, bro, y'all went
through all of history and nobody cracked you all out,
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like yes, because you know, even if we're thinking about
that anatomically, like the woman's vagina is literally built with
like acids things to keep sperm from surviving, and yet
a sperm regularly, you know, as proof through pregnancy is
able to somehow navigate all that and make a child.
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That's what religion is. And that's the crazy part in
a lot of ways is as much as you know,
you and I can both agree that that's a wild
concept and introduction, we can also point to a lot
of other wild concepts in much more widely accepted religions, right,
And so the difference in the way that it's accepted
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is really determined by the people in charge more than
it is, like that this one so much crazier than
that one, if that makes sense. You know, whether I
believe any of this ship or not, which I don't, don't,
I don't any any Uh, everyone's gonna be But I'm like,
who am I going to make matt first with what
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I'm saying? Um yeah, Like I'm not a spiritual guy
like you know, but I do think is it's are
needed and it's very necessary and it's fun to, uh
to dive into mythology and like what makes people attached
themselves to mythology so vehemently? And then how does that
mythology affect how a culture interacts with the world around them,
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because it's a very real thing, you know. Um So
I love just reading creation stories and you know the way, uh,
certain cultures think that the world was built and how
it was built and what God gave what to who
and what humans were in relation to that, because that's
very important. So when I see people online, like especially
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in researching Yakoub, when you see people online who I'm
sure grew up Catholic or Jewish, or maybe they weren't
national Islam, they were regular Islam, but uncut common, maybe
they were something else. But to see people go to
see people ridicule it, like right out, like this is
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so ridiculous, and so how could anyone ever believe this?
And I'm like, but that's what all of us do.
All of us, even if you're not spiritual, you believe
in some kind of mythology exactly, I think to your point,
that's also I wish that more people were able to
approach these conversations and certainly religion, even with that same
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level of whimsy, if you will, do you know what
I mean, Like, even if you believe it, which is fine,
I'm not here to decide whether or not that's a
good or bad thing, but you should be having fun
in this, like some of it is just an allegory,
So like, let the allegory be fun instead of it
being like this permanent fixture in the way that you
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always approach every conversation. It's absurd. Absolutely. I think we
have to approach it like that because if we don't,
then then the future is bleak because nothing can stop then, say,
uh Ron James or Batman from becoming the next thing
that people the next thing that people kill each other for.
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You know what I mean, Like, if we don't stop
and look at like the fact that like humans are
flawed and shouldn't be worshiped, and you know, I would
just getting rid of like human deification because talking about
God is such a way bigger conversation about if we
can at least get to the point where it's like, Okay,
humans are trash. Religion is funny. You're still allowed to
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believe in it, but it's funny. It's just and and
we shouldn't replicate things that have happened like in the past,
and the way to do that is in comedy. To
your point, Lebron James is an exceptional athlete, is a
human being unlike most human beings on this planet Earth.
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But he also is a motherfucker who doesn't read. Will
talks not great? Do you know what I mean? Like
it's he's not. He has flaws, and so we should
be able to celebrate the man for his gifts while
simultaneously laughing at a motherfucker who stutters through a statement
about black lives matter. And so if we can meld
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those two, we can have an honest reflection of the
human being that he is instead of, like you said, uh,
deifying him and creating some dangerous space where like my
grandkids are gonna grow up like making the cross with
the basketballers. Well, I mean holy Market. Yeah, there's literally
nothing in my mind stops me from believing that if
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Lebron James actually lived two thousand years ago today we
would live in a world where you, before every major event,
clap white dust in your hands and like maybe like maybe,
like boys when they're born, you're not allowed to have
a hairline until like you become a man. Like they
shaved your hairline all the way back until you're eighteen,
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and then now you're allowed to have it, but you
have to put on a headband until you gotta put
you gotta put a wig on. And it's not a
good way. You gotta you gotta sort of tie it
down loosely. Y. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I have no Lebron
James would have dunked on Jesus, you know what I mean,
Like he's he's six eight, Jesus was a good five three.
These motherfuckers weren't gonna be able to compete in any
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sort of physical activities, and so of course Lebron would
have become our new God. But that doesn't that's not
the right thing. Let's let's just be honest and laugh
at all of it. But can we just talk about
how funny it would be to have a stained last
portrait of Jesus of Jesus on the cross, but there's
a basketball hoop above his head where the found of
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corn of crowns is and it's Lebron ducking like Jesus
is having a bad day already. God, But ship Hooper
has got a hoop, you know what I mean, Lebron
ceo hoop. He gotta do his thing. He's dunking on
Jesus like he's doing like what was that basketball player
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back in the day who dunked and like put his
nuts on the dude's head And it was like the
first time that happened and professional, Yeah, I feel like
I know it's not. It's not Larry Johnson, but I
feel like it's like that energy of like a grandmama
type disrespect of like the people you're playing against. Le
Bronze evil, be an evil counterpart. I'm about to hit
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up the photo shop, Homies and and and tell them
to make that this is really important work that we're
doing here, and I can't wait to see the product
of all we're pushing things forward. I think so by
getting Jesus dunked him, we are making the world a
better place. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a break
and then we'll be back with more Zach Fox and more,
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my mama told me. And we are back. Oh yeah,
we are back here with more. My mama told me
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more Zach Fox. We're still talking about this wild theory
that the White Man was created by an ancient black scientist,
and we're arguing possibly that it isn't as wild as
it originally seen. Yeah, but we also have to be careful.
And then I want to get right into the research
because I do think that this is also going to
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ground a fair amount of this for our listeners who
may or may not be aware of where all of
this comes from. But I, in doing my research, found
a bunch of moments where I was legit terrified at
the things that I discovered, like legit both in terms
of this conversation and the possible the fruit of Islam
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coming to seek retaliation for anything that I was about
to say, but then also finding myself starting to and
I want to be careful when I say this, Yes,
you do buy into some of the arguments that were
being made from the things that I was reading. Right, Yes,
so let's jump right in the Nation of Islam argues
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in a I guess it's sort of a subscripture, right, like,
because it's scripture, but it's scripture that we know the
source from. And he like literally just died recently, so
it's a little bit of a different conversation. But basically,
the argument is that Yakub, who was a supposed scientist,
existed sixties six hundred years ago and created white people
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on an island basically as an experiment in an effort
to create a more perfect being. Is that track for you, Yeah,
to dive a little bit more into it. So Yakub
is an alien being. So there was a ancient Earth
m hm. There is believed to be a by multiple
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UH subcultures, religious sex. There's believed to be a civilization
or a group of civilizations beneath the Earth that came
from other places, or maybe they were already here. And
Yakub was actually I believe like he's he's mixed from
two of those alien races um and the entire origin
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of like everyone who lived on the surface of the
planet was considered ebanoid or just black. They were just
black people. So by the time Yakub was a kid
and he was living in the area believed to be
Mecca and Wallace Bard's Mohammed's work, he's he claims that
up to thirty percent of Uh ebanoid people were dissatisfied
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with how they were living. Um. So, so he has this,
he starts to build this And I want to dig
into a few things that you're saying, because the alien
part of this is very important in that every description
that you read about yah Cube ends with talking about
how big his head was. Yes, like nobody like they
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don't mention yah Cub in any way without being like
that nigger had a big His head was big as
and they claimed that not only was it physically big,
but he also was a very arrogant man who while
studying in Mecca and studying under like the teachings of Mohammed,
he basically was like, nah, funk this, I've learned everything
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I need to know. And that's when he starts to
talk to this thirty percent as you call it, of
people who are dissatisfied, not happy with the way things
are going. Yeah, and then his arrogance, you know, Yahkub,
the size of his head was a lot of reason
for him to be picked on or made fun of
in school. And he had a very, very a seed
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of hatred for the Ebony race. He hated them, and
he told his father one day, Um, his father asked
him meAll, hey, what are you doing? He said, one day,
I'm gonna create a race of people to conquer you
and destroy you. And his dad was like, shut up,
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which is what a black parent would do if you
said something like that to a black parent, like shut
the gets your ass out of it. But do Kub
was was serious. He was dead serious. M hm. And
so with that he takes and this is sort of
again the argument of the scripture. He takes fifty nine thousand,
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nine hundred and ninety nine black people to a private
island where to basically, uh, basically Sandals, Jamaica. He takes
them to Sandals, Jamaica, and they start working to now
cross breed and basically do some sort of like cross
pollination of the black species to create a more perfect
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being which ultimately leads to white people. Right, yeah, Yeahkoub
said that there is a black gene and a brown
gene and every black human being. So what his method
was was to breed out the black gene and get
as much of the brown and whittle down to the brown.
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And the way he would do that was was just
literally like a lady would have babies and the lighter
one would be kept and the black ones would be
um shipped to another island. I guess I don't want
to get into how they murdered him. Yeah, I like
that you tried to make this story. It was like, yeah,
the dog, the dog went to a different farm to
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be happy. He is. He's a Chicago baby. He's uh daddy,
Uh your daddy. He oh he got he in the
music business Man music Big album. Uh and on the
album dropped, You're gonna see him again. That's where the guy.
They'll be back. Um. Yeah, so yeah, they killed all
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the black babies. They killed the black babies. They would
throw them, uh into the ocean, they would kick them,
they would do all this things stuff. And the crazy
part about the story is, yeah, Club didn't even live
to see his work be completed. It was his uh,
his assistance and like his team and his agents actually
helped complete the process because he died when he was
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one hundred and fifty two years old, and by that time,
he had only accomplished getting a race of people who
are like me and light stones, just like he got
some light skin motherfucker's out there, but they weren't white yet.
They weren't the perfect species that he was sort of
trying to create. And I think it's important you landed
on something that I think is really important for us
(31:54):
to dig further into because by his argument, uh, he's
trying to create these white people and it ends up
being in the argument of the scripture a six hundred
year process that it takes six hundred years. Yeah, Cuba
only lives to one fifty two, so he basically is
there for like what almost a fifth of the time. Uh.
And in this process there are arguments because I know
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that you're sort of referring to yah Cuba is sort
of like this devilish guy, this evil guy. That's the
argument that people are having. But there are alternative arguments
that claim that yah Cube wasn't in fact evil, He
didn't actually intend to create white people. His vision got
usurped by lighter skinned and ultimately white people who then
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created themselves from his practices. If that makes sense, that does, yes,
that's that is the two sided argument of yakub was
a trickster. You know, his Ya Cube's um his science
what's called tricknology, which, yeah, which is the fact that
that's not a trick daddy album. Ahad is this man
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ad all. He's had a twenty year opportunity to name
an album trick knowledge. He had the whole window, and
he's blowing it. He's blow it. Fuck you, trick daddy.
If you ain't gonna take advantage of the opportunities later,
fuck you somebody will he ushould be ashamed of yourself.
Trick Daddy, tricknology? Come on, man, come on, bro, that
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was it? That was it? You know, And yeah, there's
different takes on it. Some people are like, yeah, he
used trichnology to manipulated, which he had to. He had
to use tricknology to manipulate sixty thou black people into
letting him, you know, use them for a selective breeding project, um,
which he called grafting. But yeah, he would have to
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use some sort of line or trickery. Yes, okay. So
here's where the trickery started to get to me. And
and this is where I think I started to feel
not only uncomfortable, but also terribly excited in a way
that I've never experienced before. I started reading some information
that argues that Europeans today, as we understand them, whiteness
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as we recognize it, actually is only about eight thousand
years old that Europeans of Old Old Earth are in
fact unrecognizable compared to their white counterparts of today. Talking
about you're talking about anthropological evidence exactly. Yes, this isn't
coming from Elijah Maham, the honorable Mohammed. This is coming
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from actual scientific based research that says that basically this
is a very recent development, including like blue eyes, which
is a genetic mutation that developed somewhere in the range
of six thousand to ten thousand years ago. Now where
it aligns is that the Nation of Islam argues that
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Yakub existed sixty six hundred years ago. So just mathematically,
some of that ship is mathing up, you know what
I mean, he's in the window is exactly. Yeah. And
the even scarier part is there aren't a lot of
clear explanations other than migration as to why these very
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formal changes started to happen. Now, obviously, you could argue
that migration is a major part of it because like
minded people are moving in a certain direction and then
they're mushing into each other and creating offspring that basically
replicate and form whiteness as we recognize it. But there's
also a bunch of you know, if you want to
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just make this a little more magical, there's a bunch
of logic to like somebody telling them to do that
and encouraging it. Yeah, which is you know, the part
of ya Cube's story that jumps off when he is
dead and they've completed after six hundred years, his experiment is,
you know, they have this new race people that were
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white and they went to Mecca. So there's this new
racial people and they went to Mecca. There's a bunch
of them but they caused a bunch of trouble when
they got there. They was like flipping people's tables over,
you know, using using the Brita filter, not filling it back.
They're like asking their waitress to split the check even
(36:22):
though they oh my god, she's gotta go, like write
it down on the back of the receipt. Uh. So
the people of Mecca were like, yo, y'all got to go,
and they took them to Europe. They escorted them quietly
out of Mecca into Europe, and they guarded them around
Europe with swords and they were like, yo, like just
(36:46):
chill here for like a couple hundred years and figure
out your life. So, you know, these people are now
trapped in Europe and they're just figuring it out there
like meat and you know, being naked. And uh. Eventually
lead Moses are Nyga, Moses, our guy. I love them.
Moses ran into him and he was like, all right,
(37:09):
I'm about to teach y'all how to live, you know
what I mean? And this lines up with you know,
maybe this is the story of Moses leading people out
of exodus or whatever. I don't know what he was
trying to say here, but Basically, Moses was like, I'm
gonna try to teach y'all how to be civilized, how
to wear clothes, how to like how to play PS
four and like be nice. The fourt goes on the right,
(37:32):
Spoon goes on the left. He's teaching them some ship
that they need to know, right uh. And Moses became
so upset with them because they wouldn't chill out that
he eventually he blew up three hundred of them with dynamite.
With dynamite, that's what That's what's in the text, dynamite
that he used dynamite, and the six or six years
(37:54):
ago he used dynamite to blow up. So this actually
gets into another very fascinating element of this is that
number one Dynamite existed. Apparently amazing crossover that's better than
like the teenage music and the Turtles with the Power
Range episode. How the Moses coming on the story. That's like, Oh,
(38:14):
it's like a celebrity shows up on a sitcom and
they're like, oh, ship's Tupac on the Living Color, right, Oh,
princes are new girls. This is wild. That's how I felt.
And well, so even more of a crossover that maybe
you're aware of. But there's arguments that claim that basically Yakub,
(38:35):
which is a direct translation to Jacob in Christianity, right,
is in fact the Jacob of the Bible, right, and
so like they're basically are arguments that say that there's
one text in particular that people point to where it
references Jacob grafting a sheep, yeah sheep, that he's like
(38:55):
basically making a pure sheep by making them, you know,
cross breed and whatever, make doing the thing. So it's
again this the fact that this person, who this bigheaded
man who otherwise seems like just an alien, that a
dude name a lot be honorable, alive, made up is
(39:17):
it now feels like, Okay, well maybe he did exist.
Maybe he wasn't all y'all said he was, but he
wasn't a completely fictional character. You will, yeah, exactly. So
that and that's another interesting part to get into is
because a lot of the reason why it would be
easy to say, yeah, I could see that is because
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we all know, you know, with minimal research into the Bible,
there's multiple versions of the Bible. There's books of the
Bible that have been removed, the Apocrypha or the Dead
Sea scrolls. We know how much just scripture that still
exists today has been manipulated to justify uh, slavery or imperialism,
or homophobia or number of things. So when you see, like, okay,
(40:03):
Jacob was in the Bible, it says he was grafting sheep,
but maybe it was just you know, maybe some nigga
was going through the Bible like a few hundred years ago.
I was like, oh, let me just change that to
let me change that part. I'm gonna go cross that outro.
(40:23):
But with sheep. Nobody here, Hey, does anybody care if
we uh, if we do some weird ships and some sheep? No, okay, yeah,
we're okay, We're gonna go with sheep for eight hundred Alex.
So yeah, there's already there's such a distrust in the
Bible that yeah, like sorry, like you know, people are
gonna be like, yeah, I'll take whatever all time to
(40:45):
do to that ship. Yes, And so this really takes
me to the ultimate discovery that I felt like I
was having in this And I'd love to hear your
thoughts on it is. I do think that a lot
of this ship is silly and crazy, and you know,
RELI gen is grounded and a lot of funny things
like we were saying, but it does ultimately come down
(41:05):
to whether or not you agree with white people's science
or nation of Islam science. That's it, you know what
I mean, Like, that's all this is. It's like who
did you buy into? Most did you buy into, like
the white argument that white people existed almost as soon
as black people did, Black people just came a little
(41:26):
bit before. Or do you argue, you know that maybe
this genetic mutation was intentional by a dude named yeah Coop,
a big as head. Yeah. And I mean there's listen,
the burden of anthropological evidence of the origin of whiteness.
It's not on anyone except for white people. Like and
I love and I'm talking about like I love history.
(41:48):
I love reading about like everything from the Fertile Crescent
un til now, Like I love it. But and everything
you read there's still a lot of holes. And you know,
the origins of a lot of things, a lot of
things where we come from, just as humans. It's still
argued about where hominids really came from. Where we Uh,
there's aquatic eight theory that says that we were swimming
(42:10):
up right there's the theory that we were standing up
in these large savannahs and Africa and we had to
stand up to hunt. There's all these different theories, but
nobody really knows, and nobody definitely knows where whiteness actually
comes from. They could say it's a mutation with vitamin
D or all these things, but saying that for such
a large region of earth, you know what I mean
(42:32):
to be and we and we can't account for every year, right,
you can't account for Okay, the general argument the soup
that we crawl out of. We eventually become like these
people that stand upright as we crawl further and further
from the origin source. Right, that all fine, But you're
not telling me every step of that crawl. You're just
(42:55):
telling me that a thing crawls and then it eventually
stands up, and then it eventually lose some of its
hair and it becomes man. But I because you can't
account for all of those steps, it's wild for you
to be like, Nope, that's the only possibility. There's nothing
else in between. This which is a big problem with
anthropology and it has been still it still is a
(43:16):
huge problem today that uh, you know, during the nineteen sixties,
we were just coming to a point. Uh. There was
a big I read about this. Uh it was an
anthropology like meet up. I don't know what they do there.
If they like trade bones and shil I don't know
what need to do an anthropology meet up. You got
turtle bones, but okay, I don't know. I don't know
(43:41):
if they're tasting them. I don't know if there's no
reason that tasting they want to taste them anthropology. I
imagine if I was an anthropologist when I when I
dig up some bones or some artifacts, I would dip
my pinky in it and taste it and go, oh, yeah,
that's that's that good. That's good, that's that good. Is
But a person at this anthropology whatever you know, kind
(44:05):
of talked about the fertile crescent and basically the misinformation
that you know, uh stems from you know, a lot
of different things. But there's this this this narrative were
caught up in that human beings were hunter gatherers. We
were all just we were all we were all hunter gatherers,
and then one day we all got a notification to
(44:26):
stop doing that and move on to agriculture and be
civilized human beings and make an alphabet and right, you know,
and start you know, figuring out how to get the plumber.
It's like, but but again, that's such there's so much
space in between this. It's like, Okay, we were hunter
gatherers and then suddenly we started beat boxing, and it's like, no,
(44:48):
something had to happen in between a little bit of
the truth is that there's, yeah, there were multiple massive
variation of groups and at some point, you know, different
speech seeds of human being from Neanderthal to chro magnan
to all these different we all we come from a
very wide range of hammed it or bipedal apes. You know,
(45:10):
it wasn't just one bipedal ape. There was a bunch
of them running around with different shaped skulls and that
sounds really scary. But some of them were hunter gatherers,
and some of them did because of the way they
had to interact with their environment. They did have to
sit down and do agriculture, do different things. But the
trick that nobody wants to talk about is that like
that there was kind of a need for one group
(45:33):
to be dominating over everyone because they need they need
the most space. They need the most territory. They have
a dogma attacks, they have a mythology attack, and so
that that, ultimately, I think takes me to what I
felt like I got out of this is that I understand,
I fully recognize the absurdity in all of these arguments,
(45:54):
right of like adding this sort of like weird you're
you're putting cartoon characters in the middle of science. I
get that. But what's I think undeniable in all of
this is that essentially it's white people not inventing themselves physically,
but inventing themselves as an identity. It's white people. Basically
(46:15):
we are genetically identical, but based on most science, right
there is no difference between white and black people, and
so it's white people figuring out a way to plant
themselves as a more dominant race in the way that
we understand the world. So, no, I don't believe that
like some dude crossbred you and created you from me.
(46:36):
But I do believe that you all want to be
elevated as a a separate being, and therefore the arguments
that you are somehow special, it's one a white fabrication.
It's absolutely something y'all just made up, right, right, And
it's like it would be uh completely irresponsible for anybody
(46:57):
to say that domination or or exploitation or extraction or
conquest is a is an exclusively white thing. It's not.
It's an exclusively human thing. We all do it from
you know, from Genghis Khan to uh, you know our
guy Mansa Musa, the one of the richest black people
in the world. You had to get that length. You
(47:19):
have to conquer, you have somebody has to lay down,
somebody has to be exploited. Um, we just had different
ways of going about it. But yeah, I think that
that is a very important thing to know, is that
like even predating the actual invention of the term white
being you know on like stamp like you come into
(47:40):
Ellis Island and then stamping white. There was a scientist
I think he was German. He's the guy who basically
coined the term of Caucasian because there were people in
I forget what what area they were in Europe, but
he basically was like, damn, these are like this is
top shell, like the Patricia Hilo top selves white woman right,
(48:03):
like the way her head is shape. This bitch got
something going on. But he saw that and was like,
and even he was like, yeah, I think we're all
the same, but he still was like they are the best.
This is the peak. And his influence was, you know,
able to move into ariean science and stuff like that.
But um, and that was the thing that even the
(48:25):
people that he first identified as Caucasian, he acknowledged weren't
even all white, Like there were a fair amount of
darker skinned people in that mix. It just was advantageous
to be like, Okay, I can eliminate a bunch of
people who don't fall into this category, and then I
can hand select the more agreeable or sort of likable
(48:46):
ones all of them. What scarier than you know, the
idea of a fantasy story like yeah, cube or or
anything or aliens. What's actually scarier and more intimidating and
harder to fix is where that idea of of white
jeans being you know, the top, like you know what
(49:09):
I mean, Like that idea going so far back into history.
Is that's the thing that we have to sit down
and then die and and question and completely like, yeah,
well that's that's the greatest roster of all time. The
dude was like, y'all, niggas are ugly and you're broke
(49:32):
and yeah, and you ain't ship, and everybody was like, damn,
that's motherfucker's funny. I don't know how you got us,
but I'm gonna spread this like wildfire for centuries. Generations
will believe exactly how funny this dude is. Right, Yeah, yeah,
that's that's wilder than than y'allkop is that like some
(49:53):
like just one dude was just like yeah, this one,
I like this one. This is the best. And everybody
was like, okay, cool, all right, yeah, well he's right,
all right, we're gonna take We're gonna take one more
break and we'll be back with more Zach Fox and more,
my mama told me, And we are that anyway. We're
(50:33):
back here with more Zach Fox more. My mama told me.
We're still talking about y'all Kobe and his tricknology and
how trick Daddy really should be ashamed of himself treating
with knowledge changing biology. I got right about anything you should.
I mean, you're right, you got the skills for this
(50:55):
changing biology. Take the white gane. I'm gonna put it
inside of me. If my baby come out black, I'm
gonna kill it. He gives up on the rap. He
just start saying evil ship. That doesn't rhyme, Shut the
funk up, Shut the funk up, that science motherfucker's knowledge.
(51:18):
All right, I want to play a game. We're gonna
play a game. And uh, this game I've titled Facebook
You Acting Up? This is what Facebook Live is for.
Shut the funk up? Yeah, Facebook you acting up. I'm
gonna read you some quotes that were posted recently on
my Facebook feed, and I just want us to unpack
(51:41):
them together. These are are supposed conspiracy theories, arguments that
people are making about the potentials dangers that are happening
in the world. So the first one, it goes like this,
The vagina produces a coming in hot vagina produces a
chemical fluid known as copulen that has actual mind control
(52:05):
effects on a male's brain. If a man is exposed
to a woman's copulence over time, she will be able
to change, remove or insert memories. Tell the mail what
he sees, hears, feels, smells, taste, Insert subconscious thoughts that
will surface as his own ideas or behaviors later. Plant
(52:25):
trigger words or actions that can cause thoughts, actions, or
sensations in the mild mail. At later dates, the melanated
woman copulence have multi functions and are capable of doing
other things. That's where it ends. As they do other things.
It's like a cliffhanger, which I'm trying to figure out
(52:47):
which part of that is a conspiracy. Brother, All I'm
here in is facta Listen, how spill that c O
p U l I c op u l I N
Let me write now, I'm sure I'm not pronouncing it correctly.
(53:08):
I did look it up. I looked up copulence, and
apparently they are a real thing. It's basically like a
word referring to fair moment. But there's not a lot
of information about them inserting memories into your mind that
didn't exist before. I buy it. Buy it. Well, there's
(53:31):
a spiritual like theory that the male, like male sperm
can also do that to women. Uh that like you know,
that nut has like a bunch of stuff encoded into it,
like you know, uh, matrix nuts, that nut with all
them ones and yeah, I feel like we're all a
(53:52):
bunch of ones and zeros. And I'm like, yeah, I
buy it that copulen could probably make you do some
weird some weird of things. There's crazy stuff like that.
And you know, I'm gonna say this like it's fat,
but it might not be. But hold on, wait a minute.
This is exciting, you know, saying like it's like it's
fat cats. Okay, there is a parasite that lives in
(54:15):
cat poop that uh, it's also airborne. It's a parasite
and if it gets inside of you, it can actually
influence you to want to get more cats. Whoa, So
it's like cat copulent. It's cat copy cats that they're
creating this parasite so that more cats come into your home,
(54:37):
which explains cat ladies. Yeah, ship, oh ship, Yeah. Hold on,
wait a minute, motherfucking books complete. God damn, that's that
blows my mind, the possibility because my okay, listen, this
gets into an in got copulent, and women definitely have copulent,
(54:59):
they definitely. So Yeah, when I was a kid, my
mom had nine cats, and I always thought it was
because our main cat, Jordan's, just was a busy body,
you know what I mean, she was out in the streets.
But now I'm starting to think that maybe Jordan was
intentionally planting copulent in her ship to make it so
that these other cats eventually showed up looking up looking
(55:23):
at up cat cat looking at up cat poop parasite.
It is that cat copulent. I love this. Okay, I'm
gonna read you one more of Facebook you acting up examples.
This one comes from a dear friend, Tehran. Do you
know tey Ran? Yeah, yeah, he's hilarious comedian, wears a
robe everywhere, and that's a conspiracy theory in and of itself.
(55:45):
But recently he posted I'm not a fan of conspiracy theory,
but I must say the fact that rich ass neighborhoods
always have the worst cell phone reception while the hood
always has the greatest service gives some treadens to cell
towers and five G causing cancer and death. The Hills
(56:07):
no service, bel air ship service, Malibu forget about it,
nine O two one oh hell no versus Compton perfect service.
This this fits perfectly into my horror movie that I'm
right in the Hills have wife siyes. It's just a
(56:30):
bunch of people with radiated faces, but dope ask cell phones.
I love that. Uh Okay, So he's saying, okay, okay,
five G five G might be real because the hood
has very good cell phone service, And why would they
give the hood amazing cellphone service unless there was a catch,
(56:51):
unless they're trying to murder black and brown people by
giving them like radiation directly to the head, right right, right, which,
which okay, crazy, let's follow this train for a second.
I think there is legitimacy to cell phones being bad
for us, right, that's not a new theory that's been
(57:13):
proven that there there is radiation and cell phones they're
not good for you. You probably shouldn't just be slamming
them next to your face as often as we did
at certainly, Yeah, I I've been meaning to talk to
you about that. Please stop doing that. But I don't
know that there's enough evidence to support the idea that
(57:35):
Englewood is just getting that much more cell reception than
bell Air, you know what I mean? Yeah? Like, is
it that much better? Like I wanna send a text
from both places and see like or just like I
don't know, like is it I don't know? Do all
hoods have really good cell phone service like that? Yeah?
(57:56):
I don't know. That's a pretty sweeping statement. If I
go to the West Side of Chicago, am I truly
about to get better self service than I do, and
fucking Bucktown or downtown, Like, what do you how do
you prove that the cell service is not comparable in
all these places rather than just being a man with
opinions in a rope? Right, well, yeah, you can't say
(58:17):
anything to a man with the rope because he's just
gonna say you bought the white man slide, you drank
the kool aid, and that's why you're gonna get your
face melted off. Right, yeah, look at you, you sell out,
you over your believing the white man's words, the white
man's WiFi. You an you can't even get on the
black Internet because you over here bought in on the
(58:39):
white man's WiFi. Like all right, well, I guess, I
guess I'm wrong. I don't know. I'm I'm excited to
see how the five G thing plays out. Like I
don't know any talk about like humans becoming mutants or
you know, getting any kind of like special ability or
anything there. I don't care about the lost or comfortability. Uh.
(59:05):
I just want to see somebody with a big I'm
trying to trying to see these mutants maybe, right, I
love that a mutant anything just Newton fill in the blank,
it's gonna be fun mutant like any Newton strip club. Cool,
I'm there. Okay, right, this is Diamond and she got
(59:27):
five asses with the five asses, and guess what, all
those asses don't do the same thing. Some of them
got some different powers you ain't never even heard of, Like, Okay,
I got diamond, Yeah exactly, let me look at that diamond. Well,
(59:47):
I think we did it. I think we nailed this
episode what we did, but I don't know. I mean,
I wouldn't suggest that you change your address, and uh,
we gotta We're gonna have to rethink some of our choices.
But this was an exciting time. Can you tell all
the people zac where they can find you and what
to look out for? And yeah, I'm on Twitter at
Zack Fox for now. I'm on Instagram at Zack Fox
(01:00:11):
for now. Be on the lookout for some projects that
I can't talk about until they are ready to be
spoken about. But be on Twitch sometimes too, And I
got music coming out that's dope and one of my
absolute favorite people to follow, so funny and everything he does.
One more time, ladies and gentlemen, for Zack Fox. And
(01:00:35):
this has been my mama told me you can follow
me at Linkston Kerman on all of them platforms. I
ain't going nowhere, I ain't got nothing better to do.
And uh but I will be getting a tattoo. I
want the one that you had with the full body profile.
I want the whole one that looks like a diagram.
(01:00:59):
Yeah uh where it's like that that Da Vinci diagram
of yakoo. But yeah, they're gonna be like, Zack, what's
your tramp stamp. I'll be like, hold on, let me
tell you about it down. I got to explain some stuff,
all right. This has been another episode of my Mama
told me bye by y'alls in your racists money stuff.
(01:01:41):
You can't tell me
A spum. Going through a vagina is like trying to
walk through a hookah bar in Atlanta, Like you really
might not between the smoke and dad bitches and niggas
were guns and like maybe a hoverboard that might be
boost on the ground, Like something's gonna happen. Hey, you've
got a lot of obstacles to get through the floor's lava,
(00:24):
and you gotta get the funk through this hookah bar
and essentially become the greatest leader to ever leave if
you can make it to the end. Chips in your
racists money stuff, I can't tell me. Yeah, welcome late,
(01:00):
he's in gentlemen to an exceptional, a devastating, a thick
booty episode of My Mama Told Me the podcast where
we died deep, deep into the crevices of black conspiracy theories,
and we worked to prove that Alicia Keys may not
wear makeup on her face, but she absolutely puts makeup
(01:21):
on her feet. She gotta only fans and she's posting
feet picks with makeup on them. Tell the people, Alicia,
we know it's you. Stop pretending like this is some
other lady. That's you, Alicia. You put makeup on your
feet and we know it. I'm your host, Lankston Kerman.
As always, I'm excited to be here. What an exciting
(01:42):
time we have, mainly because my guest today is one
of the funniest people I know. If he's so funny,
he's responsible for a pretty much every cool trend that's
ever existed on the Internet. He was so funny at
one point that Twitter asked him politely to leave. They
were like, this, nigga's too funny. He gotta get the
funk out of here. But then they let him back
in and he's still being hilarious. You guys know him,
(02:03):
you love him. Give it up for my guest, Mr
Zach five. Hello, Hello, what's up? Yeah? What I've done?
I'm killing man. I'm over here in Atlanta, Man, just
like drinking juices and the rain, like bird scooter and around.
This is exciting just listening things you could have done
(02:24):
in l A, but you're like, no, I'm doing in Atlanta.
I'm doing it in Atlanta. Yea. So now, what are
there like special juices in Atlanta that you're like, it's
happy to have, you know, gone back and be able
to experience again. Is there anything? Yeah, there's a spec.
There's a juice shop out here called Kill Me Crazy,
which is awful, terrible name, but um, the girls who
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worked at the one by Me are like you could
just tell they're like they're just so over it, like
to just like really cool, just Atlanta chicks. You're like,
they're like Nigga, which you want and your juice? Like
don't like tumeric? Okay, what next? Like okay stirrelina, Like
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they make it with such attitude that it's a better
juice experience. I feel like I feel like I agree.
You know, there's nothing there's something about someone being mean
to you when you order something that makes you feel like, well,
this is gonna be worth it is because it's like,
well I better enjoy this because they don't give a
(03:30):
fun right, they don't give a funk. This felt like
a fistfight just ordering a basic item. So this is
probably gonna be the best experience that I have eating. Yeah,
I feel like there is a a paralyzing aspect of hospitality.
You like, sometimes when things are too nice, you don't
really uh feel grateful for it, you know what I mean?
(03:53):
Like you you should be able to you should have
to struggle for nice things sometimes right, it's a hunter
gatherers ship in us, you know what I mean? Like
we used to have to really murder something to enjoy
a meal, and now we it's just sort of laid
in front of us, and it feels like we always
deserve this. But those small moments kind of bring us
(04:14):
back to that animalistic energy where it's like, Damn, I
had to I had to get cussed the funk out
so that I can enjoy some kill drinks. Gonn, this
matters to me. That's why I'm open a vegan restaurant.
Uh where you know you gotta get jumped just to
finish your meal. Wait, they don't. So you're saying they
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don't jump you to get the meal. It's just at
some point in the mill, at some point you're gonna
have to protect You're gonna have to protect yours and
if you're not ready for that, then maybe you shouldn't
be trying to. Maybe you just need to go up
to McDonald's and like experience the easy fast food. But
this helps, You're gonna have to earn it around here, boy,
(05:02):
you better go back and get your radiated burger mode.
Want this here, you want beyond me. You're gonna have
to get this beyond me. You can stop. You're getting
hands dog. I love that. I love that so much.
And if there's anything I can do to help fund
your restaurant without getting jumped, I'd happily do that. I
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do need money. Yes, well, I think this episode is
not going to help us get any money today. I
think that this episode actually has the potential to make
us lose quite a bit of money if we if
we're being honest, because you came to me with a
conspiracy theory that terrifies the ship out of me. But
you said, and I want to quote you here, you said,
my mama told me white people were invented by an
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ancient black scientist. Yes, who yea, just that thing can
tell me more. It's probably the most dangerous subject matter
that we could decide to drive into. But it's also
the funniest and the most uh the most right to
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be like a manga better than novelto I feel like, yes,
oh my god, yes, Because even when I told Nikki
about it, right, I told my wife, like, yo, this
is the the conspiracy theory that that Zach was talking about.
She was like, that should be a show, and I
was like, nah, it can't be no show. But also,
you're right, it should be a show. It's one of
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those things that it literally cannot be a show just
because it's so like both sides, white and black would
be so upset by it, because there are people who
genuinely believe it, and there are people who are genuinely like,
this is crazy. This is the most offensive thing I've
ever experienced. But if it was an anime, it would
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just be like if it was even just a live
action movie, it probably sell Lord of the Rings. I
don't I don't disagree with that. I think that this
has the potential to be one of the greatest box
office hits of all time if only people could put
their pride side and just except that maybe a black
scientist inventing white people is a fascinating fucking story. It's
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fascinating if we could get rid of the hate behind
it and behind all those things, all those nasty things
that everybody talks about on a daily basis, and uh,
if we can just look past that and look at
how funny and great the story is and how like
chock full of science fiction gold it is, then it
(07:41):
would be so good. It would be good. It'd be good.
It's a perfect story. So tell me. Let's let's start
from the beginning. Where where did you first hear this theory,
this suggestion. So contrary to the title of your podcast,
my mom didn't tell me this. My mom is a
very staunch Southern Baptist Christian woman who would never believe
(08:03):
in something as crazy as a guy. Uh, this wasn't
This wasn't popping up in church when y'all were going
as kids. I mean, you know, Christians, we got our own.
You know, I'm not a Christian, but girl, I grew
up in the church. So I say our because it's
(08:23):
like I was shooting in the jim. But you know,
we have our we have our own, like weird. Everybody
knows we have our own. Were we drink blood and
it's great, Like that's weird. But yeah, a man claimed
that God told him to, you know, stab his son
in the middle of the desert when he was like
and then he was like he was really gonna do that, right?
(08:44):
Weird how we supposed of all going together now he
was acting like that. Weird. But yeah, I first heard
this theory from when I was super little, like maybe
five or six. My mom used to let me just
kind of like hang out in our neighborhood. In our
neighborhood was like super rundown, but like very multicultural, and
(09:07):
it was just like poor working class white, black and
Latino people in Savannah. And I used to hang out
with these group of dudes who would just hang out
and like drink natty light and uh and smoke bad
cigarettes and eat sunflower seeds all day. And one's name
was Bobby and he looked like Charles Manson. And the
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another dude's name, I should you not. His name on
the street was Biscuit, and he was this dirty blond,
white dude with ipat who wore a black wife beater
and jeans shorts every day us. And well, first of all,
let me just say how happy I am that Biscuit
was a white dude with an ipatch and not what
I immediately presumed, which was a big as black man's comforting.
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Yeah he was, Yeah, he was switching up everything. Um,
this guy outsold everybody. So uh. They hung out with
this black do in the neighborhood named Joe and Joe
one day, like they would sit and talk about conspiracy stuff.
And I was a kid like, I didn't know what
they were talking about, but I would just kind of
sit around and listen, and you know, one day Bobby
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was like, oh, well, you know, in the year twelve,
the magnetic poles of the Earth they're gonna switch and
it's gonna cause the apocalypse. And then Biscuit was like, oh, well,
didn't y'all know that the Illuminati do this? And da
da da. So Joe had to come with his you know,
he had to come with some heat. And he was like, well,
both of y'all shut up because did y'all know that
we and then the y'all and it was like a
(10:34):
bomb went off the side of my head. I was like, Joe,
what Joe? Joe. Joe didn't really say nothing crazy like
that on a regular basis. He would just kind of like,
you know, spit some flower seeds and you know. But
he came with some heat. So I was like what
And they were like, what are you talking about? And
he introduces the story of Yakubu, which was a nation
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of Islam. It's nation an islam source material um written
by uh It was it was expanded on by Elijah Mohammed,
but hoble Um and yeah, you just proceeded to tell
them like a very a shortened bridge drunk country Nigga
version of that story. And uh, I was kind of
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like changed forever. Mow. You said Joe was a quiet guy.
I love that that. Joe was just sort of sitting
back letting these guys talk amongst themselves every day because
secretly he knew, Man I invented y'all, y'all ain't even real.
You're you're subset of some ship that I already am.
So go ahead, talk, you're crazy talk exactly to even
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sit there and watch them spit their conspiracy theories. I
saw him just he had this look in his eyelight,
you're stupid motherfucker's I'm about to hit y'all with some
crazy ship. Oh you think twelve is a thing? Get
the fun out? Yeah, okay, okay, alright, biscuit, okay, aluminaity,
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we get now. I got some ship for you. You
ain't a real human, biscuit bits, you are the second
draft of humans. But then, like you know, the strange
effect of it was watching them called his theory crazy
when you know we're all out that they were all
out there saying wild stuff. You know what I mean,
(12:25):
like from assassination theories too. You know, this was shortly
after tupacs, so they were coming with two pop theories
and stuff, and you know the fact that this guy
was like white people were invented by ancient scientists with
a giant head. They were like, well, that's just silly.
Now you're being ridiculous. And I was on Joe side
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when I was like, well why not. Okay, okay, now
you're getting into something fascinating because you're saying that. When
Joe said this, you know, Biscuit and Uh and the
other gentleman whose name I don't remembers gonna living met
Bobby Uh, they immediately are like, NA, get the funk
out of here. But that wasn't your instinct. My first
instinct was to be like, Okay, that's insane. But it
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wasn't even that I believed that what he was saying.
Just like Joe, the way he looked like, I don't
even know whose family Joe was in. He was just
like an older black dude with a salt and pepper
beard who was just like a Southern dude. And and
me being from the South, it was like, man, I'm
gonna just take his side, because just getting an elder
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quality to yeah, whether he's wrong or right. I was
just like, man, I gotta just I gotta stick with
this guy because you're talking about the magnetic poles and
you're talking about the Illuminati, and he's talking about a
big head scientist so um, and he's black, so I'm
I'm a stand over here, So I kind of stood
over next to him, I mean, and honestly, of the
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three options, his is the the least scary, do you
know what I mean? Like, if you're telling me that
the world is going to end, one of you was
saying that the fucking apocalypse is coming. The other one
is saying that, like there is an organization that decides
every move that I make out in the world. And
this dude's just saying, you know, you ain't exactly real people,
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but otherwise, like you can still be happy and exist
and talk all your ship and we can enjoy some
flower seeds in thatty light. Yeah exactly. And it was
like that whole like birden of proof thing. They were like,
you can't prove that that happened, and he was like, well,
you can't prove that it didn't happen, and and that
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music played. The music played, and you know, Bobby and Biscuit,
they're both war vets. Bobby was in Vietnam and Biscuit
had just done he just came from like desert storm.
But I was too young to remember all that. But right,
they were both war Vets and they were drunk as fun.
So that basic logical fallacy that Joe hit them with
they didn't know how to argue with, which it's a
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very simple thing. It's a simple thing to argue. But
they were just like, damn, you got a point. We
can't really not prove. It's like he did that got
your nose ship And they couldn't see their nose from
their eyes. They're like, I don't know if you got
my nose. I can't tell. So to see someone like
bested by that, you know, in hindsight, I was like, damn, man,
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he really he won the fight. Well, that's such a
fascinating element to all conspiracy theory, right, is that it
really is just a game of who can prove their
point in the moment. It isn't like who can ultimately
prove their point through research and science and in fact
based findings. It's just like, okay, who can make their
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argument sound enough in this exact moment that you essentially
build an acolyte. You build somebody who's then going to
follow your logic and spread that theory to someone else.
Conspiracy theories and discussing them is a lot like roasting,
where yeah, getting everyone on your side. It's more important
(16:02):
to have everyone on your side. And when in the moment,
like you're talking, it's like you might even you might
say a joke that don't even make sense about somebody,
you know what I mean, This thinker built like racado toast,
And then everybody's like, it's like they just doesn't mean anything.
That doesn't mean anything, but you you're just getting your
(16:23):
glass book. Like in the moment, right, avocado toast isn't
shaped any different than any other toast. This isn't like
it's you just added a little qualifier to it and
somehow it's way funnier. So you're the best. Then this
person sucks and now people are like, oh, well, what
the avocado toast shape? Nick, don't say, And then if
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you say that doesn't make sense, then they're gonna go,
oh this thinking mad now, like look at you avocado
toast wanna shape most out exactly. I I totally agree.
I think that that it does have this quality of
just like who can you convinced in the moment, and
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if you can do it effectively, then you are the
winner of conspiracy theory or roasting or whatever, you know,
sort of like, uh, that's what religion is sort of
you know what I mean. It's just like who the
funk was listening at the time that the best dude
was talking, and then somebody decided to write that down.
Who wrote it down, and who's writing survived through history
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through different ship getting conquered, through different ships, getting burnt down,
through natural disasters, you know, in a way like any
religion that exists still today. It's like the sperm that
one kind of namic where I'm like, bro, y'all went
through all of history and nobody cracked you all out,
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like yes, because you know, even if we're thinking about
that anatomically, like the woman's vagina is literally built with
like acids things to keep sperm from surviving, and yet
a sperm regularly, you know, as proof through pregnancy is
able to somehow navigate all that and make a child.
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That's what religion is. And that's the crazy part in
a lot of ways is as much as you know,
you and I can both agree that that's a wild
concept and introduction, we can also point to a lot
of other wild concepts in much more widely accepted religions, right,
And so the difference in the way that it's accepted
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is really determined by the people in charge more than
it is, like that this one so much crazier than
that one, if that makes sense. You know, whether I
believe any of this ship or not, which I don't, don't,
I don't any any Uh, everyone's gonna be But I'm like,
who am I going to make matt first with what
(18:54):
I'm saying? Um yeah, Like I'm not a spiritual guy
like you know, but I do think is it's are
needed and it's very necessary and it's fun to, uh
to dive into mythology and like what makes people attached
themselves to mythology so vehemently? And then how does that
mythology affect how a culture interacts with the world around them,
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because it's a very real thing, you know. Um So
I love just reading creation stories and you know the way, uh,
certain cultures think that the world was built and how
it was built and what God gave what to who
and what humans were in relation to that, because that's
very important. So when I see people online, like especially
(19:38):
in researching Yakoub, when you see people online who I'm
sure grew up Catholic or Jewish, or maybe they weren't
national Islam, they were regular Islam, but uncut common, maybe
they were something else. But to see people go to
see people ridicule it, like right out, like this is
(20:02):
so ridiculous, and so how could anyone ever believe this?
And I'm like, but that's what all of us do.
All of us, even if you're not spiritual, you believe
in some kind of mythology exactly, I think to your point,
that's also I wish that more people were able to
approach these conversations and certainly religion, even with that same
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level of whimsy, if you will, do you know what
I mean, Like, even if you believe it, which is fine,
I'm not here to decide whether or not that's a
good or bad thing, but you should be having fun
in this, like some of it is just an allegory,
So like, let the allegory be fun instead of it
being like this permanent fixture in the way that you
(20:44):
always approach every conversation. It's absurd. Absolutely. I think we
have to approach it like that because if we don't,
then then the future is bleak because nothing can stop then, say,
uh Ron James or Batman from becoming the next thing
that people the next thing that people kill each other for.
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You know what I mean, Like, if we don't stop
and look at like the fact that like humans are
flawed and shouldn't be worshiped, and you know, I would
just getting rid of like human deification because talking about
God is such a way bigger conversation about if we
can at least get to the point where it's like, Okay,
humans are trash. Religion is funny. You're still allowed to
(21:29):
believe in it, but it's funny. It's just and and
we shouldn't replicate things that have happened like in the past,
and the way to do that is in comedy. To
your point, Lebron James is an exceptional athlete, is a
human being unlike most human beings on this planet Earth.
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But he also is a motherfucker who doesn't read. Will
talks not great? Do you know what I mean? Like
it's he's not. He has flaws, and so we should
be able to celebrate the man for his gifts while
simultaneously laughing at a motherfucker who stutters through a statement
about black lives matter. And so if we can meld
(22:10):
those two, we can have an honest reflection of the
human being that he is instead of, like you said, uh,
deifying him and creating some dangerous space where like my
grandkids are gonna grow up like making the cross with
the basketballers. Well, I mean holy Market. Yeah, there's literally
nothing in my mind stops me from believing that if
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Lebron James actually lived two thousand years ago today we
would live in a world where you, before every major event,
clap white dust in your hands and like maybe like maybe,
like boys when they're born, you're not allowed to have
a hairline until like you become a man. Like they
shaved your hairline all the way back until you're eighteen,
(22:55):
and then now you're allowed to have it, but you
have to put on a headband until you gotta put
you gotta put a wig on. And it's not a
good way. You gotta you gotta sort of tie it
down loosely. Y. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I have no Lebron
James would have dunked on Jesus, you know what I mean,
Like he's he's six eight, Jesus was a good five three.
These motherfuckers weren't gonna be able to compete in any
(23:16):
sort of physical activities, and so of course Lebron would
have become our new God. But that doesn't that's not
the right thing. Let's let's just be honest and laugh
at all of it. But can we just talk about
how funny it would be to have a stained last
portrait of Jesus of Jesus on the cross, but there's
a basketball hoop above his head where the found of
(23:39):
corn of crowns is and it's Lebron ducking like Jesus
is having a bad day already. God, But ship Hooper
has got a hoop, you know what I mean, Lebron
ceo hoop. He gotta do his thing. He's dunking on
Jesus like he's doing like what was that basketball player
(24:00):
back in the day who dunked and like put his
nuts on the dude's head And it was like the
first time that happened and professional, Yeah, I feel like
I know it's not. It's not Larry Johnson, but I
feel like it's like that energy of like a grandmama
type disrespect of like the people you're playing against. Le
Bronze evil, be an evil counterpart. I'm about to hit
(24:23):
up the photo shop, Homies and and and tell them
to make that this is really important work that we're
doing here, and I can't wait to see the product
of all we're pushing things forward. I think so by
getting Jesus dunked him, we are making the world a
better place. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a break
and then we'll be back with more Zach Fox and more,
(24:43):
my mama told me. And we are back. Oh yeah,
we are back here with more. My mama told me
(25:04):
more Zach Fox. We're still talking about this wild theory
that the White Man was created by an ancient black scientist,
and we're arguing possibly that it isn't as wild as
it originally seen. Yeah, but we also have to be careful.
And then I want to get right into the research
because I do think that this is also going to
(25:26):
ground a fair amount of this for our listeners who
may or may not be aware of where all of
this comes from. But I, in doing my research, found
a bunch of moments where I was legit terrified at
the things that I discovered, like legit both in terms
of this conversation and the possible the fruit of Islam
(25:47):
coming to seek retaliation for anything that I was about
to say, but then also finding myself starting to and
I want to be careful when I say this, Yes,
you do buy into some of the arguments that were
being made from the things that I was reading. Right, Yes,
so let's jump right in the Nation of Islam argues
(26:11):
in a I guess it's sort of a subscripture, right, like,
because it's scripture, but it's scripture that we know the
source from. And he like literally just died recently, so
it's a little bit of a different conversation. But basically,
the argument is that Yakub, who was a supposed scientist,
existed sixties six hundred years ago and created white people
(26:33):
on an island basically as an experiment in an effort
to create a more perfect being. Is that track for you, Yeah,
to dive a little bit more into it. So Yakub
is an alien being. So there was a ancient Earth
m hm. There is believed to be a by multiple
(26:58):
UH subcultures, religious sex. There's believed to be a civilization
or a group of civilizations beneath the Earth that came
from other places, or maybe they were already here. And
Yakub was actually I believe like he's he's mixed from
two of those alien races um and the entire origin
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of like everyone who lived on the surface of the
planet was considered ebanoid or just black. They were just
black people. So by the time Yakub was a kid
and he was living in the area believed to be
Mecca and Wallace Bard's Mohammed's work, he's he claims that
up to thirty percent of Uh ebanoid people were dissatisfied
(27:46):
with how they were living. Um. So, so he has this,
he starts to build this And I want to dig
into a few things that you're saying, because the alien
part of this is very important in that every description
that you read about yah Cube ends with talking about
how big his head was. Yes, like nobody like they
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don't mention yah Cub in any way without being like
that nigger had a big His head was big as
and they claimed that not only was it physically big,
but he also was a very arrogant man who while
studying in Mecca and studying under like the teachings of Mohammed,
he basically was like, nah, funk this, I've learned everything
(28:31):
I need to know. And that's when he starts to
talk to this thirty percent as you call it, of
people who are dissatisfied, not happy with the way things
are going. Yeah, and then his arrogance, you know, Yahkub,
the size of his head was a lot of reason
for him to be picked on or made fun of
in school. And he had a very, very a seed
(28:53):
of hatred for the Ebony race. He hated them, and
he told his father one day, Um, his father asked
him meAll, hey, what are you doing? He said, one day,
I'm gonna create a race of people to conquer you
and destroy you. And his dad was like, shut up,
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which is what a black parent would do if you
said something like that to a black parent, like shut
the gets your ass out of it. But do Kub
was was serious. He was dead serious. M hm. And
so with that he takes and this is sort of
again the argument of the scripture. He takes fifty nine thousand,
(29:38):
nine hundred and ninety nine black people to a private
island where to basically, uh, basically Sandals, Jamaica. He takes
them to Sandals, Jamaica, and they start working to now
cross breed and basically do some sort of like cross
pollination of the black species to create a more perfect
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being which ultimately leads to white people. Right, yeah, Yeahkoub
said that there is a black gene and a brown
gene and every black human being. So what his method
was was to breed out the black gene and get
as much of the brown and whittle down to the brown.
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And the way he would do that was was just
literally like a lady would have babies and the lighter
one would be kept and the black ones would be
um shipped to another island. I guess I don't want
to get into how they murdered him. Yeah, I like
that you tried to make this story. It was like, yeah,
the dog, the dog went to a different farm to
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be happy. He is. He's a Chicago baby. He's uh daddy,
Uh your daddy. He oh he got he in the
music business Man music Big album. Uh and on the
album dropped, You're gonna see him again. That's where the guy.
They'll be back. Um. Yeah, so yeah, they killed all
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the black babies. They killed the black babies. They would
throw them, uh into the ocean, they would kick them,
they would do all this things stuff. And the crazy
part about the story is, yeah, Club didn't even live
to see his work be completed. It was his uh,
his assistance and like his team and his agents actually
helped complete the process because he died when he was
(31:32):
one hundred and fifty two years old, and by that time,
he had only accomplished getting a race of people who
are like me and light stones, just like he got
some light skin motherfucker's out there, but they weren't white yet.
They weren't the perfect species that he was sort of
trying to create. And I think it's important you landed
on something that I think is really important for us
(31:54):
to dig further into because by his argument, uh, he's
trying to create these white people and it ends up
being in the argument of the scripture a six hundred
year process that it takes six hundred years. Yeah, Cuba
only lives to one fifty two, so he basically is
there for like what almost a fifth of the time. Uh.
And in this process there are arguments because I know
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that you're sort of referring to yah Cuba is sort
of like this devilish guy, this evil guy. That's the
argument that people are having. But there are alternative arguments
that claim that yah Cube wasn't in fact evil, He
didn't actually intend to create white people. His vision got
usurped by lighter skinned and ultimately white people who then
(32:38):
created themselves from his practices. If that makes sense, that does, yes,
that's that is the two sided argument of yakub was
a trickster. You know, his Ya Cube's um his science
what's called tricknology, which, yeah, which is the fact that
that's not a trick daddy album. Ahad is this man
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ad all. He's had a twenty year opportunity to name
an album trick knowledge. He had the whole window, and
he's blowing it. He's blow it. Fuck you, trick daddy.
If you ain't gonna take advantage of the opportunities later,
fuck you somebody will he ushould be ashamed of yourself.
Trick Daddy, tricknology? Come on, man, come on, bro, that
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was it? That was it? You know, And yeah, there's
different takes on it. Some people are like, yeah, he
used trichnology to manipulated, which he had to. He had
to use tricknology to manipulate sixty thou black people into
letting him, you know, use them for a selective breeding project, um,
which he called grafting. But yeah, he would have to
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use some sort of line or trickery. Yes, okay. So
here's where the trickery started to get to me. And
and this is where I think I started to feel
not only uncomfortable, but also terribly excited in a way
that I've never experienced before. I started reading some information
that argues that Europeans today, as we understand them, whiteness
(34:09):
as we recognize it, actually is only about eight thousand
years old that Europeans of Old Old Earth are in
fact unrecognizable compared to their white counterparts of today. Talking
about you're talking about anthropological evidence exactly. Yes, this isn't
coming from Elijah Maham, the honorable Mohammed. This is coming
(34:35):
from actual scientific based research that says that basically this
is a very recent development, including like blue eyes, which
is a genetic mutation that developed somewhere in the range
of six thousand to ten thousand years ago. Now where
it aligns is that the Nation of Islam argues that
(34:55):
Yakub existed sixty six hundred years ago. So just mathematically,
some of that ship is mathing up, you know what
I mean, he's in the window is exactly. Yeah. And
the even scarier part is there aren't a lot of
clear explanations other than migration as to why these very
(35:19):
formal changes started to happen. Now, obviously, you could argue
that migration is a major part of it because like
minded people are moving in a certain direction and then
they're mushing into each other and creating offspring that basically
replicate and form whiteness as we recognize it. But there's
also a bunch of you know, if you want to
(35:40):
just make this a little more magical, there's a bunch
of logic to like somebody telling them to do that
and encouraging it. Yeah, which is you know, the part
of ya Cube's story that jumps off when he is
dead and they've completed after six hundred years, his experiment is,
you know, they have this new race people that were
(36:01):
white and they went to Mecca. So there's this new
racial people and they went to Mecca. There's a bunch
of them but they caused a bunch of trouble when
they got there. They was like flipping people's tables over,
you know, using using the Brita filter, not filling it back.
They're like asking their waitress to split the check even
(36:22):
though they oh my god, she's gotta go, like write
it down on the back of the receipt. Uh. So
the people of Mecca were like, yo, y'all got to go,
and they took them to Europe. They escorted them quietly
out of Mecca into Europe, and they guarded them around
Europe with swords and they were like, yo, like just
(36:46):
chill here for like a couple hundred years and figure
out your life. So, you know, these people are now
trapped in Europe and they're just figuring it out there
like meat and you know, being naked. And uh. Eventually
lead Moses are Nyga, Moses, our guy. I love them.
Moses ran into him and he was like, all right,
(37:09):
I'm about to teach y'all how to live, you know
what I mean? And this lines up with you know,
maybe this is the story of Moses leading people out
of exodus or whatever. I don't know what he was
trying to say here, but Basically, Moses was like, I'm
gonna try to teach y'all how to be civilized, how
to wear clothes, how to like how to play PS
four and like be nice. The fourt goes on the right,
(37:32):
Spoon goes on the left. He's teaching them some ship
that they need to know, right uh. And Moses became
so upset with them because they wouldn't chill out that
he eventually he blew up three hundred of them with dynamite.
With dynamite, that's what That's what's in the text, dynamite
that he used dynamite, and the six or six years
(37:54):
ago he used dynamite to blow up. So this actually
gets into another very fascinating element of this is that
number one Dynamite existed. Apparently amazing crossover that's better than
like the teenage music and the Turtles with the Power
Range episode. How the Moses coming on the story. That's like, Oh,
(38:14):
it's like a celebrity shows up on a sitcom and
they're like, oh, ship's Tupac on the Living Color, right, Oh,
princes are new girls. This is wild. That's how I felt.
And well, so even more of a crossover that maybe
you're aware of. But there's arguments that claim that basically Yakub,
(38:35):
which is a direct translation to Jacob in Christianity, right,
is in fact the Jacob of the Bible, right, and
so like they're basically are arguments that say that there's
one text in particular that people point to where it
references Jacob grafting a sheep, yeah sheep, that he's like
(38:55):
basically making a pure sheep by making them, you know,
cross breed and whatever, make doing the thing. So it's
again this the fact that this person, who this bigheaded
man who otherwise seems like just an alien, that a
dude name a lot be honorable, alive, made up is
(39:17):
it now feels like, Okay, well maybe he did exist.
Maybe he wasn't all y'all said he was, but he
wasn't a completely fictional character. You will, yeah, exactly. So
that and that's another interesting part to get into is
because a lot of the reason why it would be
easy to say, yeah, I could see that is because
(39:38):
we all know, you know, with minimal research into the Bible,
there's multiple versions of the Bible. There's books of the
Bible that have been removed, the Apocrypha or the Dead
Sea scrolls. We know how much just scripture that still
exists today has been manipulated to justify uh, slavery or imperialism,
or homophobia or number of things. So when you see, like, okay,
(40:03):
Jacob was in the Bible, it says he was grafting sheep,
but maybe it was just you know, maybe some nigga
was going through the Bible like a few hundred years ago.
I was like, oh, let me just change that to
let me change that part. I'm gonna go cross that outro.
(40:23):
But with sheep. Nobody here, Hey, does anybody care if
we uh, if we do some weird ships and some sheep? No, okay, yeah,
we're okay, We're gonna go with sheep for eight hundred Alex.
So yeah, there's already there's such a distrust in the
Bible that yeah, like sorry, like you know, people are
gonna be like, yeah, I'll take whatever all time to
(40:45):
do to that ship. Yes, And so this really takes
me to the ultimate discovery that I felt like I
was having in this And I'd love to hear your
thoughts on it is. I do think that a lot
of this ship is silly and crazy, and you know,
RELI gen is grounded and a lot of funny things
like we were saying, but it does ultimately come down
(41:05):
to whether or not you agree with white people's science
or nation of Islam science. That's it, you know what
I mean, Like, that's all this is. It's like who
did you buy into? Most did you buy into, like
the white argument that white people existed almost as soon
as black people did, Black people just came a little
(41:26):
bit before. Or do you argue, you know that maybe
this genetic mutation was intentional by a dude named yeah Coop,
a big as head. Yeah. And I mean there's listen,
the burden of anthropological evidence of the origin of whiteness.
It's not on anyone except for white people. Like and
I love and I'm talking about like I love history.
(41:48):
I love reading about like everything from the Fertile Crescent
un til now, Like I love it. But and everything
you read there's still a lot of holes. And you know,
the origins of a lot of things, a lot of
things where we come from, just as humans. It's still
argued about where hominids really came from. Where we Uh,
there's aquatic eight theory that says that we were swimming
(42:10):
up right there's the theory that we were standing up
in these large savannahs and Africa and we had to
stand up to hunt. There's all these different theories, but
nobody really knows, and nobody definitely knows where whiteness actually
comes from. They could say it's a mutation with vitamin
D or all these things, but saying that for such
a large region of earth, you know what I mean
(42:32):
to be and we and we can't account for every year, right,
you can't account for Okay, the general argument the soup
that we crawl out of. We eventually become like these
people that stand upright as we crawl further and further
from the origin source. Right, that all fine, But you're
not telling me every step of that crawl. You're just
(42:55):
telling me that a thing crawls and then it eventually
stands up, and then it eventually lose some of its
hair and it becomes man. But I because you can't
account for all of those steps, it's wild for you
to be like, Nope, that's the only possibility. There's nothing
else in between. This which is a big problem with
anthropology and it has been still it still is a
(43:16):
huge problem today that uh, you know, during the nineteen sixties,
we were just coming to a point. Uh. There was
a big I read about this. Uh it was an
anthropology like meet up. I don't know what they do there.
If they like trade bones and shil I don't know
what need to do an anthropology meet up. You got
turtle bones, but okay, I don't know. I don't know
(43:41):
if they're tasting them. I don't know if there's no
reason that tasting they want to taste them anthropology. I
imagine if I was an anthropologist when I when I
dig up some bones or some artifacts, I would dip
my pinky in it and taste it and go, oh, yeah,
that's that's that good. That's good, that's that good. Is
But a person at this anthropology whatever you know, kind
(44:05):
of talked about the fertile crescent and basically the misinformation
that you know, uh stems from you know, a lot
of different things. But there's this this this narrative were
caught up in that human beings were hunter gatherers. We
were all just we were all we were all hunter gatherers,
and then one day we all got a notification to
(44:26):
stop doing that and move on to agriculture and be
civilized human beings and make an alphabet and right, you know,
and start you know, figuring out how to get the plumber.
It's like, but but again, that's such there's so much
space in between this. It's like, Okay, we were hunter
gatherers and then suddenly we started beat boxing, and it's like, no,
(44:48):
something had to happen in between a little bit of
the truth is that there's, yeah, there were multiple massive
variation of groups and at some point, you know, different
speech seeds of human being from Neanderthal to chro magnan
to all these different we all we come from a
very wide range of hammed it or bipedal apes. You know,
(45:10):
it wasn't just one bipedal ape. There was a bunch
of them running around with different shaped skulls and that
sounds really scary. But some of them were hunter gatherers,
and some of them did because of the way they
had to interact with their environment. They did have to
sit down and do agriculture, do different things. But the
trick that nobody wants to talk about is that like
that there was kind of a need for one group
(45:33):
to be dominating over everyone because they need they need
the most space. They need the most territory. They have
a dogma attacks, they have a mythology attack, and so
that that, ultimately, I think takes me to what I
felt like I got out of this is that I understand,
I fully recognize the absurdity in all of these arguments,
(45:54):
right of like adding this sort of like weird you're
you're putting cartoon characters in the middle of science. I
get that. But what's I think undeniable in all of
this is that essentially it's white people not inventing themselves physically,
but inventing themselves as an identity. It's white people. Basically
(46:15):
we are genetically identical, but based on most science, right
there is no difference between white and black people, and
so it's white people figuring out a way to plant
themselves as a more dominant race in the way that
we understand the world. So, no, I don't believe that
like some dude crossbred you and created you from me.
(46:36):
But I do believe that you all want to be
elevated as a a separate being, and therefore the arguments
that you are somehow special, it's one a white fabrication.
It's absolutely something y'all just made up, right, right, And
it's like it would be uh completely irresponsible for anybody
(46:57):
to say that domination or or exploitation or extraction or
conquest is a is an exclusively white thing. It's not.
It's an exclusively human thing. We all do it from
you know, from Genghis Khan to uh, you know our
guy Mansa Musa, the one of the richest black people
in the world. You had to get that length. You
(47:19):
have to conquer, you have somebody has to lay down,
somebody has to be exploited. Um, we just had different
ways of going about it. But yeah, I think that
that is a very important thing to know, is that
like even predating the actual invention of the term white
being you know on like stamp like you come into
(47:40):
Ellis Island and then stamping white. There was a scientist
I think he was German. He's the guy who basically
coined the term of Caucasian because there were people in
I forget what what area they were in Europe, but
he basically was like, damn, these are like this is
top shell, like the Patricia Hilo top selves white woman right,
(48:03):
like the way her head is shape. This bitch got
something going on. But he saw that and was like,
and even he was like, yeah, I think we're all
the same, but he still was like they are the best.
This is the peak. And his influence was, you know,
able to move into ariean science and stuff like that.
But um, and that was the thing that even the
(48:25):
people that he first identified as Caucasian, he acknowledged weren't
even all white, Like there were a fair amount of
darker skinned people in that mix. It just was advantageous
to be like, Okay, I can eliminate a bunch of
people who don't fall into this category, and then I
can hand select the more agreeable or sort of likable
(48:46):
ones all of them. What scarier than you know, the
idea of a fantasy story like yeah, cube or or
anything or aliens. What's actually scarier and more intimidating and
harder to fix is where that idea of of white
jeans being you know, the top, like you know what
(49:09):
I mean, Like that idea going so far back into history.
Is that's the thing that we have to sit down
and then die and and question and completely like, yeah,
well that's that's the greatest roster of all time. The
dude was like, y'all, niggas are ugly and you're broke
(49:32):
and yeah, and you ain't ship, and everybody was like, damn,
that's motherfucker's funny. I don't know how you got us,
but I'm gonna spread this like wildfire for centuries. Generations
will believe exactly how funny this dude is. Right, Yeah, yeah,
that's that's wilder than than y'allkop is that like some
(49:53):
like just one dude was just like yeah, this one,
I like this one. This is the best. And everybody
was like, okay, cool, all right, yeah, well he's right,
all right, we're gonna take We're gonna take one more
break and we'll be back with more Zach Fox and more,
my mama told me, And we are that anyway. We're
(50:33):
back here with more Zach Fox more. My mama told me.
We're still talking about y'all Kobe and his tricknology and
how trick Daddy really should be ashamed of himself treating
with knowledge changing biology. I got right about anything you should.
I mean, you're right, you got the skills for this
(50:55):
changing biology. Take the white gane. I'm gonna put it
inside of me. If my baby come out black, I'm
gonna kill it. He gives up on the rap. He
just start saying evil ship. That doesn't rhyme, Shut the
funk up, Shut the funk up, that science motherfucker's knowledge.
(51:18):
All right, I want to play a game. We're gonna
play a game. And uh, this game I've titled Facebook
You Acting Up? This is what Facebook Live is for.
Shut the funk up? Yeah, Facebook you acting up. I'm
gonna read you some quotes that were posted recently on
my Facebook feed, and I just want us to unpack
(51:41):
them together. These are are supposed conspiracy theories, arguments that
people are making about the potentials dangers that are happening
in the world. So the first one, it goes like this,
The vagina produces a coming in hot vagina produces a
chemical fluid known as copulen that has actual mind control
(52:05):
effects on a male's brain. If a man is exposed
to a woman's copulence over time, she will be able
to change, remove or insert memories. Tell the mail what
he sees, hears, feels, smells, taste, Insert subconscious thoughts that
will surface as his own ideas or behaviors later. Plant
(52:25):
trigger words or actions that can cause thoughts, actions, or
sensations in the mild mail. At later dates, the melanated
woman copulence have multi functions and are capable of doing
other things. That's where it ends. As they do other things.
It's like a cliffhanger, which I'm trying to figure out
(52:47):
which part of that is a conspiracy. Brother, All I'm
here in is facta Listen, how spill that c O
p U l I c op u l I N
Let me write now, I'm sure I'm not pronouncing it correctly.
(53:08):
I did look it up. I looked up copulence, and
apparently they are a real thing. It's basically like a
word referring to fair moment. But there's not a lot
of information about them inserting memories into your mind that
didn't exist before. I buy it. Buy it. Well, there's
(53:31):
a spiritual like theory that the male, like male sperm
can also do that to women. Uh that like you know,
that nut has like a bunch of stuff encoded into it,
like you know, uh, matrix nuts, that nut with all
them ones and yeah, I feel like we're all a
(53:52):
bunch of ones and zeros. And I'm like, yeah, I
buy it that copulen could probably make you do some
weird some weird of things. There's crazy stuff like that.
And you know, I'm gonna say this like it's fat,
but it might not be. But hold on, wait a minute.
This is exciting, you know, saying like it's like it's
fat cats. Okay, there is a parasite that lives in
(54:15):
cat poop that uh, it's also airborne. It's a parasite
and if it gets inside of you, it can actually
influence you to want to get more cats. Whoa, So
it's like cat copulent. It's cat copy cats that they're
creating this parasite so that more cats come into your home,
(54:37):
which explains cat ladies. Yeah, ship, oh ship, Yeah. Hold on,
wait a minute, motherfucking books complete. God damn, that's that
blows my mind, the possibility because my okay, listen, this
gets into an in got copulent, and women definitely have copulent,
(54:59):
they definitely. So Yeah, when I was a kid, my
mom had nine cats, and I always thought it was
because our main cat, Jordan's, just was a busy body,
you know what I mean, she was out in the streets.
But now I'm starting to think that maybe Jordan was
intentionally planting copulent in her ship to make it so
that these other cats eventually showed up looking up looking
(55:23):
at up cat cat looking at up cat poop parasite.
It is that cat copulent. I love this. Okay, I'm
gonna read you one more of Facebook you acting up examples.
This one comes from a dear friend, Tehran. Do you
know tey Ran? Yeah, yeah, he's hilarious comedian, wears a
robe everywhere, and that's a conspiracy theory in and of itself.
(55:45):
But recently he posted I'm not a fan of conspiracy theory,
but I must say the fact that rich ass neighborhoods
always have the worst cell phone reception while the hood
always has the greatest service gives some treadens to cell
towers and five G causing cancer and death. The Hills
(56:07):
no service, bel air ship service, Malibu forget about it,
nine O two one oh hell no versus Compton perfect service.
This this fits perfectly into my horror movie that I'm
right in the Hills have wife siyes. It's just a
(56:30):
bunch of people with radiated faces, but dope ask cell phones.
I love that. Uh Okay, So he's saying, okay, okay,
five G five G might be real because the hood
has very good cell phone service, And why would they
give the hood amazing cellphone service unless there was a catch,
(56:51):
unless they're trying to murder black and brown people by
giving them like radiation directly to the head, right right, right, which,
which okay, crazy, let's follow this train for a second.
I think there is legitimacy to cell phones being bad
for us, right, that's not a new theory that's been
(57:13):
proven that there there is radiation and cell phones they're
not good for you. You probably shouldn't just be slamming
them next to your face as often as we did
at certainly, Yeah, I I've been meaning to talk to
you about that. Please stop doing that. But I don't
know that there's enough evidence to support the idea that
(57:35):
Englewood is just getting that much more cell reception than
bell Air, you know what I mean? Yeah? Like, is
it that much better? Like I wanna send a text
from both places and see like or just like I
don't know, like is it I don't know? Do all
hoods have really good cell phone service like that? Yeah?
(57:56):
I don't know. That's a pretty sweeping statement. If I
go to the West Side of Chicago, am I truly
about to get better self service than I do, and
fucking Bucktown or downtown, Like, what do you how do
you prove that the cell service is not comparable in
all these places rather than just being a man with
opinions in a rope? Right, well, yeah, you can't say
(58:17):
anything to a man with the rope because he's just
gonna say you bought the white man slide, you drank
the kool aid, and that's why you're gonna get your
face melted off. Right, yeah, look at you, you sell out,
you over your believing the white man's words, the white
man's WiFi. You an you can't even get on the
black Internet because you over here bought in on the
(58:39):
white man's WiFi. Like all right, well, I guess, I
guess I'm wrong. I don't know. I'm I'm excited to
see how the five G thing plays out. Like I
don't know any talk about like humans becoming mutants or
you know, getting any kind of like special ability or
anything there. I don't care about the lost or comfortability. Uh.
(59:05):
I just want to see somebody with a big I'm
trying to trying to see these mutants maybe, right, I
love that a mutant anything just Newton fill in the blank,
it's gonna be fun mutant like any Newton strip club. Cool,
I'm there. Okay, right, this is Diamond and she got
(59:27):
five asses with the five asses, and guess what, all
those asses don't do the same thing. Some of them
got some different powers you ain't never even heard of, Like, Okay,
I got diamond, Yeah exactly, let me look at that diamond. Well,
(59:47):
I think we did it. I think we nailed this
episode what we did, but I don't know. I mean,
I wouldn't suggest that you change your address, and uh,
we gotta We're gonna have to rethink some of our choices.
But this was an exciting time. Can you tell all
the people zac where they can find you and what
to look out for? And yeah, I'm on Twitter at
Zack Fox for now. I'm on Instagram at Zack Fox
(01:00:11):
for now. Be on the lookout for some projects that
I can't talk about until they are ready to be
spoken about. But be on Twitch sometimes too, And I
got music coming out that's dope and one of my
absolute favorite people to follow, so funny and everything he does.
One more time, ladies and gentlemen, for Zack Fox. And
(01:00:35):
this has been my mama told me you can follow
me at Linkston Kerman on all of them platforms. I
ain't going nowhere, I ain't got nothing better to do.
And uh but I will be getting a tattoo. I
want the one that you had with the full body profile.
I want the whole one that looks like a diagram.
(01:00:59):
Yeah uh where it's like that that Da Vinci diagram
of yakoo. But yeah, they're gonna be like, Zack, what's
your tramp stamp. I'll be like, hold on, let me
tell you about it down. I got to explain some stuff,
all right. This has been another episode of my Mama
told me bye by y'alls in your racists money stuff.
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