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May 10, 2021 55 mins

En 2012 se halla otra fosa común que marca el comienzo de una nueva ola de feminicidios. Investigamos las conexiones entre los cárteles y el sistema bancario internacional, y volvemos una vez más a Juárez para conversar con Paula Flores sobre lo que ocurrió después de la desaparición de su hija Sagrario.

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