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November 13, 2024 33 mins

Join Kate as she chats with Olivia Ponton right after their run. In this episode, Olivia shares her inspiring journey on becoming a successful content creator and model. She opens up about her decision to skip college in favor of pursuing modeling, her unforgettable experiences living in the Hype House, and her exciting debut as a Sports Illustrated rookie. Olivia also takes us behind the scenes of her first shoot with Sports Illustrated and shares insights about her involvement with Victoria's Secret.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey guys, welcome to Post Run Hi. This podcast dives
into each individual's approach to movement, well being, origin stories,
and personal growth. Today, I am so excited for you
to hear my conversation with Olivia Ponton. And backing up
for a second, I am so grateful to be starting
this podcast journey with you all. I started the Running
Interview show almost two years ago now, and I'm so

(00:25):
thankful for every single one of you who has been
a supporter of the show.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
This new season is going to.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Allow us to go even deeper with our guests after
our runs. This is something so many of you have
requested for me to do, and we are going to
bootstrap and build this show together. Today we're going to
be learning all about Olivia. She has achieved so much
success as a model and as a content creator, and
I am so excited for you.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
To care her story.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Olivia. Welcome to post her Hi.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
We just ran about a mile.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yes, I have not swept this much quite some time.
I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
What is your favorite form of movement right now?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't want to say ploates because everyone says that,
but I would say ploates because I feel like you
can chat with your girlfriends and also get a good workout.
My upbringing was quite interesting until I started social media
when I was about seventeen and then just kind of
mixed around. But growing up, basically, water skiing was my life,
as well as track and fields and trying not to

(01:29):
fail school.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's so interesting that you were a water skier. Like
that blows my back. I didn't even know there was
professional water skiing. It's so random.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's actually met someone recently, and I've never in my
entire life met someone who also professional water skis until
like three days ago, and then I was like, oh,
so we're the same person.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Basically, is it like a team practice?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Like after school, we're showing up, everybody's getting onto a
boat and we're taking turns in the water.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's every Sunday and we would go out to a
we'd go out to a lake and ski from seven
am to whenever the sun sat. You do pyramids and
you would get climb on top of other people and
do like all these twists. It's like cheerleading. But on skis,
do you also surf?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Okay, so all the water. Yeah, but that was like differently.
I learned how to surf like maybe four years ago,
and it was a lot harder than I was expecting
it to be because it's like snow skiing mixed with water.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
It's interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, no, that's so interesting. What was your family dynamic, Like, like,
I know you have a sister.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yes, I have an older sister. Her name is Abigail.
And then I have my beautiful mother. I never called
her by her name, but her name is Diane. Diane Diane,
and my dad.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
And I grew up just in a very loving family.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I was definitely the outcast and I loved making trouble.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Within the family.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
You were the outcosts, yeah, I would say specifically in
the family. My sister was like the perfect golden angel,
and I was always the one who was getting suspended
from school or just the ground I did basically for
three years straight of my life. When I was sixteen,
I basically was like, I don't want to be here anymore.

(03:07):
I need to figure out a way to get out
in kind of any way, shape or form. Then when
I turned seventeen, started doing social media, and then I
randomly got asked to move to La So that was
kind of my out.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
You were one of those teenagers that was being a
little bit rambunctious. You were the youngest and you just
wanted to get space from your family kind of thing,
which I'm so normal about yet, right, But before you
moved to LA I know that when you were what
sixteen or seventeen, you got into modeling.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, it was interesting when I was sixteen, you know,
random people would come up to me and just be like,
oh my gosh, I think you should model, and I
just was always.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Like, I like no.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
And then I applied to agencies online when I believe
I was seventeen maybe sixteen, and oh my god, the
photos were so I went outside because my best one
of the time just had signed to a Molley agency
in Miami. Went outside in a bright pink neon bikini.
And if you modeled, that's just like a no, no,

(04:08):
you don't take digitals in a bright colored bikini.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
And I took them with my phone camera.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I sent them to four or five agencies in Miami,
and then an agency in New York ended up reaching
back out through them, called Wilhelmina, and the agent was like,
send me more pictures than at this and I was like,
I don't have any more pictures. What do you want
me to do? So I went took a bunch with
my friends and then I came home from school one
day and I was like, I'm moving to New York.

(04:35):
They're like what, And I was like yeah, I made
up my mind and they were like, no, you're not.
And I made a whole PowerPoint presentation of why they
should let me go and visit at least then for
spring break. They finally said okay, and we all went
up here. We met with Wilhelmina in person and I
signed in person that day, which is really a special moment.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
What initially drew you into modeling?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I think for me, when you were young, everyone had
their thing that they wanted to be, and mine was
I wanted to be an anesthe geologist. Wow, the person
that puts you to sleep when you're about to get
a surgery. But then I soon realized that you have
to go to school for thirteen years, and I was like, oh,
so I wouldn't even start my job until I was,
you know, in my thirties, well in my thirties, and

(05:24):
I kind of took a step back, and then I
watched my very first Victoria Secret fashion show fourteen years old.
By the way, let's keep this in mind. And I
come up to my mom and I'm like, mom, I
have my new job and career. Meanwhile, her daughter wants
to be an antithe geologist. This is what she thinks.
And I go, I want to be a Victory Secret
model and she's like, okay, I had not hit puberty yet,

(05:46):
Like she was like, okay, we'll keep on going.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
I was maybe five foot.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Who was your favorite model at the time at the time,
Jessepine describer, She's still my favorite model.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I were friends.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm lucky enough to be friends with her, and she
is the sweetest person I've ever met. Then I drove
into just because that was so unrealistic for me at
the time.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I was like, oh, modeling New York City. Have never
even been to New York City.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
So I started really focusing on running because I was like, Okay,
I could get a college scholarship to go somewhere to run,
and that, to me, I thought that would make my
parents very happy, and like every kid, you just want
to make your parents proud of you. So I dove
head into that, not gonna lie not gonna hinde myself up.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I was not terrible.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I feel like you were very good, thank you.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
And I was the level where I could get a scholarship.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
So you know, my sophomore, my junior year, I'm the
only thing I'm focusing on, and my junior year, I
just didn't. I loved it, but it was very Yeah,
you understand, like the athlete dynamic between like your body,
how you look at your body versus you can constantly

(06:56):
compare yourself to other people because you're doing the same
exact things as they are doing. Constant comparing myself to
other people and why I could never be as good
as them.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
And this is.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Also kind of when I started posting on social media,
like around the same months and doing social media at
my high school, like most people, not a huge thing,
like kind of a little weird if you were doing it,
and people did not have the nicest things in the
world to say about me doing social media, and I

(07:28):
just never cared. I was like, I am gonna leave
in like six months and I'm probably never gonna see
it of you guys again. So if you have something
mean to say, keep it to yourself. And I remember
we had our first track meet, and that was the
first time someone had recognized me in person because it
was a huge track meet and this one really sweet
girl and my teammates were like shocked by that, and

(07:49):
I was like, I guess something, want something right right now?

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Were you also at the same time doing photo shoots
for brands and doing work with Wilhelmina.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
That I was signed with them?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
It was more so a plan when I graduated, I
was going to move there and I have found an apartment.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I figured it out.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was like the smallest one bedroom apartment or I
was sharing it with other people.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Smallest bedroom. I think there was no bedroom. It was
a bed.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Basically, I was completely okay with living there. I was
going to have to get, you know, extra jobs. My
agent said, most models beginning work one to two jobs
to be able to pay for living expenses because in
the beginning of modeling sometimes occasionally you do have to
pay for photo shoots, so you do have to pay
out of pocket for all the really small things that
you wouldn't think of just from an outsider's perspective.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
You have to make it in the city.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
What was the pivotal moment for you that you were like, Okay,
I'm going to do modeling instead of going to college.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I remember this so really, my best friend Emma, this
is actually how we became friends because I posted on
my close friends and I think it was on Snapchat,
I believe, and she was on it. We were not friends,
and I literally printed them out in front of me.
I had my modeling contract and I had to go
to FIU, which is Florida International University in Miami, and

(09:04):
I had like two options and I just sat there
for hours in my bedroom just trying to figure out.
I was like, I need to make the decision tonight
because if I don't do it tonight, I'm never going to
do it.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
That's a huge decision.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, Like actually, my gosh.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, how involved were your parents in the decision?

Speaker 4 (09:19):
They did not want me moving to New York.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Ok.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
They were very much like you were going to college.
When I first brought it up to them, they were like,
absolutely not. And the fun part about social media that
I absolutely adore is that when I was seventeen years old,
I could financially stabilize myself and I wasn't like just
going crazy running around.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's like I had a plan.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
You end up moving to LA instead of New York.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yes, this is the part that I totally didn't remember
about you being in the hype house.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Okay, it was very interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
What was the following account that you were at at
the time that they reached out.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I think when they asked me, I had about five
one hundred thousand followers on TikTok. Maybe it was really fast,
like I'm talking like night and day, like it was
from zero to like four million and probably three months
two months, which is to any person, it's like you
can't even process that. You just you don't process it.

(10:22):
And it's been four years and I still don't process it.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's so crazy to think about like that many eyeballs
are on you, and obviously it's not all at once, right,
it's like you have eleve a million followers, like some
of your videos go megaviral, But it is a crazy
number to fathom.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
At the time, I had a boyfriend who lived I
had an ex boyfriend who lived in LA and we'd
started dating when I lived in Florida. I had my
best friend who lived in Orlando. I lived in Naples,
and we would her and I would always meet up
to hang out, and one day we both got DMS
from the person who started hyphe house and another member

(10:59):
also who was in the house, and they basically were
just like, hey, can we go on a phone call?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
They sounded all business ye.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I was like, I'm seventeen years old, Like can I
live in Florida?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Like business?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Like okay, And so we basically got on a FaceTime
phone call and they talked to us. They asked us
a bunch of random questions about our lives, and we
were just like, here as it is. And then they
asked us, I think the following day, to come out
to Los Angeles to see.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
How it would work.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
At first, I was very like no, I'm okay, but
my best friend really wanted to. I was dating someone
who lived there, so it just made sense. And I
was like, COVID's just happened. Nobody's traveling. I'm not going
to school because school isn't even starting.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Like modeling's not really happying.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, like nothing, no photo they weren't any photo shoots
really right, nothing. Yeah, And I was like, well I
might as well. I just want to leave.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
My house totally.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
So we moved very randomly. I told my parents two
days before that I was moving. They were not happy
with that one. You were a funny teenager.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, yeah, I just walked into the room.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Was like, by the way, guys, I'm moving in two
days and I should be back in a few weeks.
But if I don't come back like that, I'm gonna
be in Los Angeles. My mom didn't love that, but anyhow,
we moved. The Hype House is basically a ginormous house
in Hollywood Hills and there was probably seventeen bedrooms in

(12:23):
it or no, no, seventeen people, fourteen boys, three girls.
I was the only single girl who lived there for
the four month period of time.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
What is it like jumping to living in a house
with all these other guys?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
That's hard also something.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Like unfathomable, like you just you cannot process it until
you're in that situation.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
But so fun. Yeah, you're like, yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
It was really fun for me. That was like my
college experience.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
And I look back at that and I'm like, wow,
I had like a four month summed up condensed four
years for most people. And I learned so much about
myself in that time period. And basically we'd wake up
and like film videos all day and then hang out
and then party at night, and then you go to

(13:09):
sleep and need do the same thing every day. And
then I did that for four months, and I was like, Okay,
I'm going a little insane. I need to leave. So
then I moved into a different house with like eight
of my other friends and lived there for six months.
And then I was like, okay, La, love you, goodbye.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, and then you moved to New York. Yes, How
do you feel like New York compares to La?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I love the beach.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Obviously New York very much lacks the beach here, but
I think if New York had.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
A beach that we would be best friend.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I always think about that. I'm like, what if we
could fucking swim in the Hudson River.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
That would be amazing, amazing, Like the piers.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Were all just little like dogs that we could jump off.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
But there's so many studies that are like that, like Barcelona.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Do you feel like you could see yourself living abroad?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I could live anywhere and I'd actually be the happiest
girl in the entire world, like I really would.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I'm curious, like everything happens so fast. How did you
deal with the fame when it first hit.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I got a life coach. Okay, and if you don't
for anyone who doesn't know life coaches, it's basically like
a series of intents. For me, life coaches are different
from everyone. Mine was a series of like therapy two
to three times a day and for however, it's consecutive days.
So I had mine for I think about three weeks,

(14:20):
so I would be an intensive therapy because I could
not process it. Every person struggles with imposter syndrome where
you don't feel like you're actually in your body.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I've talked to so many people about this that have
achieved like so much success specifically also like in the
interviewing space, and they will literally say to you, like
it never goes away. Yeah, yeah, so we're all dealing
with that.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
And I had an amazing life coach who would kind
of talk me through things. I'm a very visual learner
and I need to like see it in front of
me and be able to understand it for.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
It to be okay.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
And I went through that for about three weeks and
for some and that kind of just helped everything click
with me.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
What are some of the tools that they taught you
my life.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Coach basically broke down how many followers is like a million?
For even example, you know, the nearest stadium to me
growing up was the Marlins Stadium, and he had me
google how many people fit in the stadium? Thirty six
thousand people? Thirty six k He's like, have you ever
been to that stadium before?

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I was like yes.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
He's like, how, like did it seem big? And I
was like, yes, it's the biggest stadium I've ever been in.
And he's like, that's and then I think thirty six
times thirty nine. I don't don't quote me on the math.
That's from four years ago. My knowledge, Like he told
me you were inside of thirty nine of those stadiums
with even just a million people following you, and like
you said, they're not looking at every single thing, but

(15:48):
over the course of a period of time they are.
And especially at that point in my life, it was
like just so many people that it was so unfathomable
to me that having that in the back of my
brain kind of broke things down and I was like, oh,
I am understanding the reach of the people that I'm reaching.
So this is why I'm going to talk about the
healthy things like I very much started on social media

(16:11):
by posting my workouts because growing up, I just wanted
to help people, and you know, this is what works
for me, so I don't know if it's.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Gonna work for you, but like, let's just let's try it.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
And I started with like a like Quarantine series, and
it was so fun to me and I would just, oh.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, I need to see these. I thought, I haven't
seen these them.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
They were so fun to make.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
And I would just basically go with my phone and
I would work out and I would just set it
up on the floor. It was the simplest thing ever,
their fifteen second long videos, and I just cut up
my little workouts and I understood the reach of the
people I was giving, so I just wanted to radiate
as much happiness because that's all that I care about.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I really appreciate you saying that, so thank you, because
I totally agree. I think with social media there's so
much negativity online. I think positive content creators are like,
that's what.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
We need more of.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
You just need them, Yeah, you just need them.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
How do you deal with the highs and lows.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Of social media?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I was going through a hard time mentally with like
trying to process everything. Very random, Miss amazing Madison Bear Shadow.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I love her.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I was sitting down with her and I was talking
to her about it because she's experienced a lot, way
more than I have ever just through she's been on
social media for longer than me, and she's like, just
turn off your comments. They can't comment negative things if
you don't give them a platform to comment. So I
turn off my comments for months, and even if I

(17:33):
did feel comfortable turning the back on, I just got
them off. I was like, you know what, She's so right, Like,
if you give people a platform to comment on, they're
going to share their opinions.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Comment they're like a beast of their own too. It's
like there's the video content and then there's the comments. Yes,
and the comments take on a whole nother life.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
So I just kept those off for a while. And
then also something that the life coach taught me was
just like don't look at them. And I know it's
so much it's very much easier said than done, but
for me, like ignorance is bliss, Like I'm just Gonnak and.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
You're such You're such a good person that the comments
are never going to be that bad.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Ever, Oh no, sometimes they're mean, but just like you
know what, like, yeah, I don't know this person. They
don't know No, So why would I allow them even
a thought in my brain? Because I know all that
they want to do is hurt my feelings?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Right?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Why would I let someone hurt my feelings?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Do you feel like you set boundaries with what you with? So?

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Sometimes yes?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Sometimes no, I feel like I'm very vulnerable about certain
topics that I feel like people know not to comment
certain things, and if they do, sometimes I see and
someone claps back at them really quickly.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I love you like we love our friends online.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, thank you very much that you've had so much
success modeling and you've had so much success as a
content creator.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Let's start with Sports Illustrated.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
What was it like getting the call where you found
out you were going to be a Sports Illustrated rookie?

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
I actually was looking through my memories and I have
a video like right after I found out, and I'm okay,
let's let's paint that picture. So I'm in Yes, I'm
in Los Angeles and I'm shooting a actual swimsuit campaign
for this brand, and we're at the most beautiful set.
I was so grateful this day. I was just like,
oh my gosh, I can't believe this is my life

(19:18):
right now. And I'm getting my makeup done and my
publicis calls me and I'm like, okay, that's so random.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
They never call me.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I was like what And I was like hello, and
she's like, can you step away from everyone for a second?
And I was like, amis day?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah. So I go into the corner. I'm in the forest.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Basically I'm going to like this random corner and I'm like, okay,
I'm by myself. She's she's like, are you sure. I
was like yeah. I was like, what's up? What's wrong?
And she's like, Sports Illustrated asked you to be a
rookie for this year and I was like, got the cameras,
what do you mean what? And I like immediately fell
to the ground. I was crying. I was the happiest

(20:00):
person in the world. They're obviously like, don't tell anyone.
I was like, okay, I'm telling my mom. Tell my mom,
and I told my best friend, sorry, I guess and immediately, yeah, mediately,
and they were both very happy for me, and I
was just shobbing in tears. And I come back to
set and the makeup artist is like, what's wrong. Everyone's
like are you okay? And I'm just like, They're like,

(20:21):
what's wrong. I was like, I literally can't tell you.
I want to tell you, but I cannot tell you.
And then we shot it I think two weeks later
in Montenegro, which was insane.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
So that happened fast.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's like you get the rookie call and then you're
ready to shoot Sports Illustrated.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
They want to embrace you your beauty and however that
is so they never want to give you too long,
and from my opinion, they never want to give you
too long to prepare anything.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
That's what I mean exactly how you are get the call.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I feel like Sports Illustrated for you is an amazing
partner because you are like the intersection of athlete and model.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
That was like a life time goal and the fact
that I got it when I was eighteen, I was like,
this is what this is insane? Hellow And the first
time we shot in Montenegro, I was just crying the
whole day. I was like, I'm Jay I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Yeah, like I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Also Montenegro, like the Middle. I had no idea where
we were going. I had to google what Montenegro was.
When I was getting on the plane, I was like hello,
and it was like a sixteen hour shoot day. I
was like, I will stay here for twenty four hours
if you want me to, I don't care. And I
remember it was freezing cold and we're shooting obviously all swimsuits,
and I remember just going home and just being like, what,

(21:39):
what did that just happen?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
You're like serious impostor syndrome hits then for sure?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
What is it like being on set for Sports Illustrated?
Describe like what the set is like, Like you're in
this beautiful place. How many people are with you?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Production wise?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Like?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Are there a ton of photographers?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
You base?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
You fly in the night before. Sometimes you do a
fitting prior, but we had done the fitting in New
York City so we'dn't have to fly in too earlier.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Landed next morning.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
You wake up at like three am basically, so they
can start hair and makeup at like four I believe.
But there's just one hair artist, one makeup artist. They
completely transformed me into this like glowing goddess with all
these hair extensions and I have Oh, you faked Haan
so much the knife before and you wake up and
you're like, I don't love that.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I'd think so nervous. My fake tan is gonna be
like splotchy. Oh did they do it for you?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I think likest Oh. I was really funny in my
second year. I did not know this makeup artist and
she's like, can I tan you with like an oven
like with the met And I was.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Like, uh yeah, like here you go.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
And that was such like with modeling, you have to
be really comfortable with your body because yeah, it's invasive. Yeah,
it's if you're not, like, well, you better get used
to it really quickly.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
How do you feel like you got used to like
all of a sudden, there's like grown ass men taking
your and you have to be in a bathy sit.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah. That's hard.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's also kind of empowering.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
It's very empowering.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I think I like to look at it as that way.
But I think for the privacy part of it, when
I was younger, I would get a little nervous about,
you know, asking for privacy because I was like, oh, like,
I don't want to be an inconvenience. I don't want
to be an inconvenience. And then I got to a
point where I was like I didn't want other people
to see me because I was in a relationship and

(23:27):
it didn't matter if it was girls or boys or whoever.
The other person did not want anyone seeing me. And
also same for myself. And I would ask people on
set like, hey, do you have like a changing area
and they'd be like no, And I'm like, oh, okay,
that's humbling. So you kind of just had to get
used to it in a weird way. But now I'm
very grateful that I can just stand up for myself

(23:49):
and I'm like, okay, we need to figure this out.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, you're like, we're gonna need a changing yeah, or
a towel or something anything which is interesting.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Back to sports Ill Street set.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, you wake up tan, washed off hair, makeup, eat breakfast.
You gotta make sure you eat this day because you're
constantly posing like all day. It is tiring to a
certain dega absolutely, And you just got that food is fuel.
So I had I think two red bulls and I
ate allat of food. This day, i'd really get salmon flunch. Anyhow,

(24:18):
you immediately start first lights and we shaw on the
beach and the production is probably fifteen to twenty people.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
I would say.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
The photographer's name was James McCary and he was absolutely phenomenal.
Was so good at making people feel comfortable just in
their own skin. And MJ is just such a light
and she wants you to just feel like the most
confident version of herself. So they got the speaker going,
they got the music.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
You can just be dancing like feeling. You feel so comfident.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
The vibes are there, all the vibes are there, and
you're like in a foreign country and you're in a
little bikini and you feel good. Like the vibes were
just one hundred and ten percent that day. So we
shot around the beach that we were saying, and then
we went into the town of Montenegro and shot around
there for a few hours and came back and did
sunset at this other beach and it was like a

(25:11):
cement beach. It was very interesting, but it was like
twenty degrees when we were shooting the last and I was.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like, what do we get the shot please, It's so
cool and I love knowing that. Like I've talked to
other people that have been sports Illustrated models or that
are and they all say, like the shoots are literally
so empowering. But like going back to a little bit
what we talked about with like setting boundaries when you're
on set. I listened to your Emily Dackowski podcast, which
I loved, and you guys were both very open about

(25:37):
like there are situations in.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Modeling where you're young and you.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Don't know how to like stand up for yourself, and
then certain things happen that you're not comfortable with, and
so so you have to set boundaries.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
That's also like an empowering thing. I think once you
get older and you develop those boundaries within your own
life and then you come to work and you can
be like, oh, that's not normal, Like you're not supposed
to be treating me like that, You're not was to
ask me for that, or you know, just anything. There's
been countless times where I've had to like text my agent,
like when I'm at work and I'm like, Hey, this

(26:07):
person's weird, or like hey this isn't okay, or.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Just vice versu in the so nice having that person too,
to be able to go to like having a team
around you is key.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Oh yes, when I and my agent, so I was like,
I'm on it and then fixes it, so I'm like.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Okay, let's talk about Victoria's Secret.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
When I saw you doing the promo for the Victoriascretasion show,
I was like, oh my god, if Olivia walks like,
my day's gonna be made. I just feel like you
embody a Victoria's Secret angel. Like I thro watching the
show so okay the show as well, right, like especially
having it come back. I was in Austin for F
one and I'm like sitting there with my laptop out

(26:44):
watching the Victoriasacret Fashion Show and I literally was having
so much, like so many flashbacks to being in high
school and watching the show and seeing Candice and Adriana,
and I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I think it's such a nostalgic feeling for every everyone,
every our generation like as a whole, like we all
grew up watching and just being like.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, it was amazing. So I'm curious what was it
like being backstage?

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Okay, first of all, I had no idea I was
actually going backstage when they were getting their hair and
makeup to Victoria's here.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
It's like a family to you because you've done a
lot of paint campaigns, like you're very ingrained, and.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
They're like family, like family through and through every time
I go and set. Obviously, when I first heart working
for them, I was very nervous, but I was like,
so determined to make them like me. And I was like,
we're gonna love each other. Okay, you're so like that.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I can't worried about that ever.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Okay, But I think people have.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
A kind of semi knowledge of why they're on this
earth and what their point is, and you get to
a point in life where you can understand that about yourself.
I would like to say I've done a lot of
self healing very young in my life to understand that same.
Working for Victoria's secret is my that's my That's why
I'm on this earth. That is genuinely why I'm on

(27:56):
this earth. And wait, I'm dying. That's it's very weird.
It's like I have a tattoo for Angel. It's a
whole thing. And we've talked about what we're gonna do
for the backstage thing and I'm good at talking to people,
but I was like, I'm also like a little shy,
like I'm just supposed to go up to these people
I don't know, like, oh my gosh, and they too

(28:18):
are from my knowledge. I thought I was just gonna
interview them like on the pink carpet, like when they
were gonna be coming through. I was just gonna ask
them questions to did this, And then earlier in the
day they're like, Okay, are you ready to go? I was like,
go way, and they're like backstage. I was like, oh,
we're right now, right now, and they're like, yeah, we're
just gonna go take some you know, pictures, videos, whatever.
So still have no idea that I'm interviewing them. And

(28:39):
we get there and they're like, here's your microphone. I
was like, why do I need a microphone? And they're like, oh,
you're doing the questions right now. I was like, did
you have the questions prepared?

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Like yes.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
They also helped a lot with that because it was
kind of like cute sea questions. I felt like your
interviews were very natural well, which I was so much
about them, like I really do and not from like
a weird star awker point though, like I've grew up
watching them, I grew up loving them. I've also followed
them for what six years.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
There's also a relatability factor to interviewing these girls, like
you are in that world.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yes, It's like I can kind of like Lila Lila
Mas love her, we're friends. So I think when they
were like, oh, you want to go interview her, I
was like, oh my gosh, it would be so natural,
Like it's just like I'm having a conversation with her
or Miss Alex Grinsani. She's the funniest person I think
I've ever met. So I think it was so easy
because she would just make everything just such a moment.
And even with the other girls that I was interviewing,

(29:33):
being able to interview them and just ask them questions
that I'm genuinely curious about, I was like, Okay, this
is a lot easier than I thought it was going
to be.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I feel like the biggest thing I've learned with interviewing
is it's like you can't really go into it with
too much of a plan. You have to just see
where the conversation takes.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
It's like I knew too much about them to not
make like for it to be awkward.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I was like, way, Oliview, I love it. You can't
make it awkward.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
No, even if you make it awkward, It's like, yeah,
it would be funny, right.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
It was very fun to be backstage with everyone.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Next year, Victoris of Your Fashion Show twenty twenty five,
do we think we're walking?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Oh, we're gonna manifest We're going to make I'm manifesting it.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
I think it just all depends. Like I'm a vspink eurly,
so I like if they have a section, I.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Think it would be so cool to see more like
content creators and like faces in the show.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
It would be cute to bring in like a mixed
merge of it. Because the modeling industry is also a
very tough industry to get started in if you're someone
who's just you know, beginning and doesn't have like a
social presence behind it. And I know, there's like a
lot of back and forth because a lot of content
creators have switched over and you know, gotten into the

(30:41):
modeling space. And I mean it's it's a very competitive industry.
I mean social media, there's so many opportunities for so
many people to work and that's why I love it
modeling is not as much. It's like you're all fighting
basically for the same jobs. What I personally loved about
the show this year is that they had such an

(31:02):
array of talent of people. They brought a bunch of
girls back, but they also had a bunch of new
faces and girls who are just strictly models, and I
personally love that.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
I was like, Okay, you guys.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Are pretty absolutely and I think there's a space for everyone.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I think with modeling, you're taught to not have a
personality and you're taught just to be there and to
make people happy and to like go home. And I
think because I have the social media, people already know
what kind of my personality is. So when I come
on to say, it's not like I'm out of pocket.
Like being like my happy safe which is really fun.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, and it's really really fun.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Okay, what are we manifesting for twenty twenty five?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Genuinely? Like happiness? Like can I know that's different to
everyone and everyone measures their success and their own ways,
but like being able to slow down and just be
like grateful for everything. I think a lot of people
don't do that enough because being happy and content with

(32:03):
what you have is so important and it's something that
I think every single person should have in their heart.
So I think that is what I'm excited about, is
just like sharing my life with people who love the
same things that I love and just want to be
good humans because like we were talking about, we need

(32:23):
more of those.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, I know, I love that. I agree.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I think with social media get like the dopamine rush
of like one great thing happening and then kind of
being like, Okay, what's the next thing?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, and it's like you don't need to look at
it like that. It's like you did one great thing,
like congratulate yourself, like feel happy about it. Like just
because the next day something else is happening to someone
else doesn't mean that you should be like, oh my god,
wait wait wait now I need to do something again. No,
be happy with yourself. Be proud of yourself. I think
our generation is not proud of ourselves enough. We are

(32:53):
taught to not like ourselves basically, and I don't like that,
and I'm like kind of trying to, you know, learn
how to not do that.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Confidence is so important and you see it with girls
like yourself. You see it with girls like Alex Cansani.
I just love seeing the confidence empowering.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
And exactly so, yeah, having confidence is truly the most
attractive thing about someone in my opinion, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Like, we just need to all embody that a little bit.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Okay, well, Olivia, thank you so freaking much. You're amazing.
I am so excited to see everything that you go
on to do.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Maybe I will get back and trunning. Yeah, maybe not.
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