From America's Got Talent to Sold-Out Stand-Up Specials with Funnyman Taylor Williamson

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You're listening to Studio twenty two.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to Studio twenty two. I'm your host Will Meldman,
here as always with the fabulous Baracoharn.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
How you feeling the same place, different day?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh yeah, we are here today with actor comedian Taylor Williamson.
How are you, Taylor?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm great. How are you today? Man?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's going great. Actually, we're experiencing a little bit of
a storm here in southern California. All the rain and
all that going on. It's been crazy, man, Like I
feel like houses around here aren't built for it, and
it's like flooding and all this.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
You know, I was trapped at the airport in San
Francisco for it took me fourteen hours to get from
San Francisco to my home in Los Angeles. Fourteen yeah,
I'm adding Sunday, Yeah, because of all this nonsense I
was pretending to not know, and it was I was
a goose and it's affected in my life. And I

(01:05):
was working in San Francisco and I'm never fly. I
hate flying, so like I'd rather drive for six hours
than fly for an hour. But I was opening for
Mark Maroon and like his people were paying for the flight,
and they opted fly me out a Burbank. I'm like, oh, fancy,
you know what, I'll take the Burbang Airport flight. And
uh it took me literally five minutes to get from

(01:26):
parking my car at the airport to my terminal Burbank
Airport like so fast, like all the way there. This
is amazing, you know. And on the way back the
flight got delayed. I'm like, okay, we're gonna be okay.
And then it's become of those things like try to
get on this flight, trying on this flight, cancel this airline,
go on the other, going around the whole airport, whole thing.
They say they don't know what to do, like go
with the Delta lounge, trying to do the kind of

(01:46):
VIP kind of thing, you know, like talk to the
people there because usually a little bit more helpful. And
also on the text app customer service, I'm on the phone,
I'm trying every angle different airlines, and I finally get
a flight back to l e X. I'm like, so
you are you kidding me? So I go to LAX
and then it is like all first world problems obviously,
and then uh and then uh, Uber is one hundred

(02:07):
and forty dollars because Uber Uber is a wonder wonderful company.
Oh life is hard. Let's let's charge more money, you know,
so Uber to burbank and then there's a whole thing.
But here I am with all of you.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well, we are very glad you maated for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I mean I flew home Sunday also, and I kind
of had the same thing. I was in Jackson Hole. Yeah,
didn't snow the entire time until last day, and then
we got like by the time from my time I
woke up to the time I got to the airport,
which is like like six am to eleven.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Uh, there's like two feet of snow.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
A storm came out of nowhere, and then you're dealing
with all this stuff in La on top of that.
So that flight got delayed. Every flight in Jacksonoll got delayed.
Some of them didn't make it out or they were
sitting on the tarmac for hours and hours and hours.
But that flight that I was on Teil till Lax
got delayed till nine something PM. And it was like
an eleven o'clock in the morning flight all day, all day,

(02:59):
and we me and my buddy were flying the same place,
and everyone else went other places and kind of got out,
and some people got stuck other places and everything. But
we decided to get out, just try to get out
of Jackson Hole because if there's a high chance we're
gonna get stuck.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Ended up flying to Salt Lake.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Luckily found another flight, but it's a long beach and
then we're back from long beach back home.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
But but I didn't get home till on like midnight
or one or something that.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, late, thank god you did right, yeah, because we
had a podcast first thing in the morning produced.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
So it's like, yeah, this weather has really been obstructing
travel everywhere.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
So you're trying to say that your story is just
better than mine. You're trying to say you could. This
is very disrespectful. I'm relating to you. No, No, you're supposed
to let the guest. You should have like you should
have minimized your story for this episode.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Wow, I'm sorry you went through that. I've never experienced
anything like that.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Wow, it must have been tough. No, but it honestly,
like the travel thing was funny. Bourbon ct did to
get close down or something like everything was just crazy
out here.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
What I heard is they were they could land at
Lax but not Burbank. That's what I heard, Is that right?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't know. I just I got my car Burbank.
I don't know what's going on. I didn't go inside.
I don't care. I'm every man for himself kind of thing. Disaster.
I didn't go. Is everyone else okay? I don't care.
I don't care about me. You know, we had everything happened,
then we got on the listen, I'm trying to take
back my story. But so we get on the plane
and then we get off the thing. We're moving, and

(04:30):
then they're like, oh, we have to go back to
someone want to get off the plane. So we had
to get and get off again. And then uh, we
get back on and then they're like, oh, we can't
move because where something is stuck. So we have to
wait like an hour fifteen minutes. Anyways, we had some
extra variables. Is everything okay? No, actually no, it's not.

(04:50):
It's not. If you need anything likewise, thank you. I
do care about other people. By the way, the way
I feel bad, I said, I don't care about others.
Oh no, do I seem like I care about others?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
You very much.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Do I really person I don't really feel like you
care about me. But other than you, do you feel
like I care about other people? Oh? Yeah? Yeah? Okay,
I can see that you're confusing because you look you
look like you would have beat me up in high school,
but then you look you're very nice. Though I got
beat up in high school. Is that what created this
this large manliness upon yourself or did you have anything

(05:25):
about factor? No? Did you get beat up by really
big people? Is that what happened? Yes? Is that true?
So you were like you were a strong man in
high school, then like big people beat you up. No,
I was. I was tall, but I was very very skinny. Okay,
so you did the thing where see I thought about
doing what you did, like I was. I was skinny,
you know, like I'm gonna get muscles. And then I
was like, that's a lot of work. It was a

(05:47):
lot of work. It was a lot of work. It
took away training in high school. I got to see.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Really, yeah, one of my one of my favorite jokes
of yours that I think it was either America's got
talent or your comedy is sore special that I was watching,
whereas like, yeah, COVID. You know, the gyms were closed
for uh, you know, two years or whatever. And then
you're like, so that I haven't worked out in thirty
six years.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Oh thanks man, I love that.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I butchered it. That's I love it.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Thank you. That's so sweet of you. Thank you for
taking a look at that.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, I was laughing.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, the gym, I don't know. It's like I feel
like you should get I think you should. I didn't
come up, but this is not like those original thought.
But I think if you pay to go to the
gym and you buy lettuce, that you should get nutrients
and you should get muscles out of it.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah. Just the membership.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, I have like all these vegetables in the fridge
that don't get like they don't get eaten, but like
I buy them. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's fair.
That's fair. You did half the work, thank you.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, if you get like four membership, you should just
be walking around with six pack all the time.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Thank you. The nutrition, by the way, it's like eighty
percent of a good diet, a good a good body,
healthy body, right, definitely, So what percentage is like just
buying the groceries?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I mean you get some exercise, Brian, unless you're doing
instacart or something that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, what did you do you eat non organic food?
I'm sorry, I'm talking about him like he's just wearing
a short sleeve. Sure, I'm sure you're a very buff man. No,
I'm no. I'm like, I'm like the middle ground. You know,
just what am I then?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Loading in the middle?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Am I in the middle? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I think we're in the middle. Right.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Hey, you said it was you said you had trouble
coming up the hill, but you made it up the hill.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Wow, that's good. They live on a big hill and
I parked not close enough. I didn't park at the
top of the hill. I parked towards the bottom.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Anyways, it's all the exercise.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Adding that, thank you. I love this is positive. This
is a positivity podcast. I like that exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Imagine you just came in here and we're just like.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like you piece.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Oh my god, that'd be kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Actually, what is it like those restaurants where they treat
you like crap?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I don't get that. I wouldn't actively want to
go into one of those.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
There's a restaurant where the servers are actually terrible to
you real, they just treat you like crap.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, it's like a thing.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's a thing.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
People go there and I think you'll The funniest ones
are when you bring a friend who doesn't know and
they're they're just like what the hell, Like the squader's
treating me like shit.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't need that in my life. I don't know.
I don't want to get vulgar. But there's like adult
movies that have been on the internet, and you think
this is a nice adult movie, then the persons starts
yelling at you, saying terrible things like what there's the
whole People love that, right. People enjoy being like belittled
and told they're like less than. I think it's a
lot of like successful people too, Like powerful people enjoy
being like like cooked, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, like the submissive, the whole submissive thing, Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
It's like more than just submissive. It's just like the degraded.
Yeah yeah, aggressively like you're a trash. So like when
you're into that, Yeah, no, I'm not that successful brok.
Yeah no.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Actually I did a movie with this woman and she
played a dominatrix, So she actually did all of this
character research, and she started telling me, like, it's like
a lot of these people don't even go all the way.
They just like to be treated like crap the whole time. Yeah,
kind of humiliated and stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I mean, to each their own, you know, but like
interesting psychology, I think.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you know, is that? What does that?
What you're do? I like to be respected, I like
to be like I like polite kindness. Yeah, yeah, that
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Compliments, we're on the normal spectrum.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
You played a whole cogan on television. Yeah, can you
tell me everything about that, dude? It was freaking amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
It was for Young Rock on NBC and they were casting.
They couldn't find anyone who was big enough they could
also play Hulk, and luckily I got the call and
it was some big shoes to step into. But man,
I learned a lot about wrestling, a lot about Hulk,
you know, terry, crazy, intelligent guy and just funnel around.
It's cool being on set and seeing all these characters,

(09:55):
you know, people representing characters like the Rock and under.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
The and like all these dudes. Yeah, but it was surreal.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
It was a very like I'm very grateful for the opportunity,
but it was just something that I'm never gonna take
for granted, and what a cool thing to be a
part of.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I don't know. Did you get to meet Whole Cogan? No? No, Yeah,
should go meet What are you doing? I'm going to eventually?
What are you? What are you waiting for? That's a
good question.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
You only have like Florida and I haven't been over
there yet.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
You play Hull Coke, you only have like six years,
and it tells weird when you're like in like seven years.
You can't be like, hey, Hulk, I played seven years,
Like what but within six years you can go like
he has. He has a restaurant in Clearwater, Florida area
and he does karaoke I think I think once a week.
But like you can do carry we got we have

(10:47):
we should do a travel episode of three. Okay, I'm
so down and uh, but you can do karaoke while
he eats chicken wings behind you would be amazing, Like
why have it? I gotta bring your handimars back.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, and you could bring the costume back exactly. That's
such a great idea.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
All right, you shouldn't cancel it. Book a play right
to play and yes, have you reached out to him
and said, like I played you on TV.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
There wasn't enough time from the time that I like
started in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Disappointed you. But as I speaking as a I mean I'm.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
The same, Like I also wanted to meet uh Dwayne
Johnson on set, but I didn't get the chance.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
You know, so the whole you played whole Cogin. Yeah,
I've tweeted a whole Cogaan and he's riten back to me. Hell, yeah,
do you tweet at him? No, I don't really tweet
Am I shame? Am I doing the shame. I'm doing
the shame thing. No, I like, is this attractive to
you that I'm shaming you?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
No? Not not something that attracts me.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
We got to connect to you with Hull Cogaan.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I agree, I'm down. Should we just tweet him live
right now? See what happens. You gotta tweet himcause he
responds to you.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Spend in a minute. But when I did American Talent,
I came out to his entrance music that's very which
one real American.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, I used to play that. So I made a
track of all his songs a playlist. So before I
go out and like perform as him or whatever. There's
like five songs that I would listen to and I
would do to just play that on repeat.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I didn't speaking of America's got talent. And I want
to ask you about that experience. What was that like?
Like how'd you get into it? And then you know,
what was it like filming it? Like how did it
all come to be?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I did? I did send them comedy for ten years
and then I was very poor and desperate, and then
I had the opportunity to audition, and I was like, no,
I'm not going to do that. Why would I do that?
You know, like and because it's scary because that crowd
is that crowd is like trained to if they like
you stand up and clap and at the train that

(12:45):
they don't like you to go boo, right. I don't
need that, but make me sad. I would be my
feelings to be heard. I would be destroyed, honestly. And
then judges include like Howard Stern and Howie Mendel like
some of my comedy heroes. I don't need to have
them go. I don't think you're good at what you do,
like I would be destroyed. There's a lot of risk
of of being absolutely destroyed. As we discussed the time

(13:11):
on of my things I enjoy, and but then I
got really really desperate, and then I went on it
and it went pretty well, and I'm so lucky and
grateful and uh and uh, yeah, I got second place.
I lost to a Japanese dancer from Japan, as you do,
of course, as it happens, and when you do American
telling a Japanese guys sometimes. But he's my friend. And

(13:32):
I made a friend, you know, I made a few friends.
And yeah, it was really special. I got to travel
around on another level that I hadn't experienced before and
sell lots of tickets and do that whole kind of thing.
And uh and it opened a bunch of doors for me.
And I'm talking to you guys. And I got a dog.

(13:53):
Now that's good. You know.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I love the I love the dog. You met, you
met our mascot, Penny Beautiful. What was the you showed
it the photo of you and Heidi Klum?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Right, yeah, how did that?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
What was that? How did that? How did you get
that photo?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So on the show she's one of the judges and
then she didn't and like the third round, Like the
first live episode, she was like, you're not appropriate for children,
and I didn't think you're funny kind of thing, and
uh and uh. It was pretty gnarly honestly because like
this is ten years ago and like I didn't. I
was just like, it's this live tell my first time

(14:29):
on live TV and NBC Family Show. The show was
like as big as it ever was, and I'm just like,
did I was? I? Did I destroy families? Like, like,
did my joke, my little stupid joke? I told her?
Did I are parents covering their kids' eyes? I they
scarred for I'm literally thinking these things like I felt horrible,
like it was, I felt really bad and like but

(14:49):
so that but that led me to getting pushed through
to the next round though, because she had said you're funny,
all the judges are like, you're funny, You're funny, You're funny.
You don't go through because controversy, people like the people
booed her for saying what she said about me, So
it made people go, I don't you know, I'm gonna
it's like wrestling, Like I'm gonna I vote for you,

(15:09):
you know what boo her? I support him, you know,
So it pushed me through. I genuinely don't think I
would have gone through if she had liked me, because
I see some great, great comedians go on the show
and they get four yes standing ovation they don't go through. Wow,
it helped me out. So then the next round, I
did a whole act of like tongue in cheek, like
child friendly jokes, and I took my jokes and spun
them to be cute. See within the punchline is like PG. Thirteen,

(15:32):
like dirty but family friendly. Dirty. Yeah. So and I
got a big reaction out of that, and then that
became my shtick on the whole season, is just trying
to impress HAIDI clue. Then it got her to love me,
and then I went back on the show and we
did silly skits and stuff and gets her on the mouth.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
No big deal, you know, yeah, super jealous.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
So like even now, like years later, people go like
where's Hidie, like got shows and I'm like, she's in
the car. I don't know why, but I have a
career that thanks to her playing along with all that stuff.
So she was really, uh a surprised in my life.
I didn't think when I was a kid at Haidi
Klum would be a big vessel to my dreams coming to,
you know. And she's funny and silly and cool and rad.

(16:15):
And I think these judges they're playing characters too on
these shows. It's rest it is wrestling, like I'm a
wrestling fan, and like they can't all just be nice.
Like someone needs to be the Simon Cowell. Someone needs
to play domb I don't know comedy, someone needs to
be the supporter of weird things and yeah, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, different archetypes kind of.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, like it's you get to picture and the show entertaining,
the show's not entertaining of the judge. Judges are just
polite the whole time, right. I don't think I could
do a job like that. I mean, if they offered me,
I'd say yes and RB, But I think it would
be hard for me to tell people like on a
really vulnerable moment in their life. M M no, not good,
you know. Yeah, Like so that's a weird position to
be in for everybody, you.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Know, No, absolutely, and that that is crazy to think
about too, Like how big the show is and how
much exposure it is and the vulnerability right of like
expressing yourself and doing your work in front of not
only the TV crowd, but the actual crowd and then
the judges. Right, it does seem like a lot to

(17:16):
dig in.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
It's very odd because you do have to get the
audience on your side, then the judges on your side,
and then you have to to get the audience at
home to support you. So it's like, how do you
I mean, it's bizarre, and it's I don't think I
could do it today, honestly, and I'm a better artist
that I've ever been and I have more confidence in

(17:38):
myself as an artist. But that setting for me is
I don't it's not healthy for me. It wouldn't be
healthy for me to go on. I don't have the
desperate desperation that I had and the healthy necessary level
of desperation had to go on the show at the time,
you know. But now I just be like, I wouldn't

(18:01):
think of funny ways to if they criticized me to deal,
I'd be like, all right, well that's your opinion. You know.
I don't have that energy to try to twist things
into funny. If they're being to me, I'd be like, well,
it's not kind of you to say that, But that
makes you feel better to say that. That's okay, you know,
I think I'm healthy. Now. It's hard, it's a it's
a hard I don't know how to answer it, like
nore sentence, but.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Timing right, like, I think that's that think that happened
to you at the right time, and everything in your
life was clearly lined up for that to give you
success now today that you have. But desperation is a
funny thing.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
It'll make you do some stuff that maybe give you
some some courage or false courage. I think put you
in a position to really succeed if you show up.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah. Yeah, I look back. I watched the audition video
and I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe the
balls on this guy who had no balls like this.
But I was just like I have to. But one
thing that helped me in that whole thing is my
stick on stage. Now, I think I'm myself. I'm a
version of myself, which I think, which I like a lot,

(19:03):
And I think that's the best stand up could be.
It is you are the same on stage and off stage.
Maybe the volume turned up, but it's authentically. I think
I'm authentically myself. But like I was always awkward on stage,
and uh so when I was nervous, it just helped me. Right,
people didn't know if I was doing a stick or not.
So it just helped me, made me likable and made
me It helped my jokes work, you know. Yeah, I

(19:26):
don't know. I don't know how comedians who have to
play confident, cocky on stage, I don't know how they
survive in scenarios like that, right, like a Bernie mac Yeah, right,
Like it's not a it's a bizarre setting, no matter
what you're training, no matter what your talent is to
go up on that thing. All the judgment and the
odd the bullshit behind the scenes that you're dealing with,

(19:48):
and like the contracts and the months of pre auditions,
and like the conversations with producers, Like just because you
get just because they tell you're going through, it doesn't
mean you're definitely gonna go through. When I'm a lawyer,
come up to you and say it just so you know,
this is a TV TV show and we're going to
figure stuff out. Like it's a lot of nonsense happening,
and so people, I don't know, from my experience, I
feel like the people who are like uber confident are

(20:10):
the least confident. They're putting on something I think, or
they're sociopaths. I'm not sure, because it's not a healthy
scenario that anyone can train for. It'll be comfortable and
you know.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, it's an interesting way of looking at it.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, I don't know, that's what I think, but I
don't know anything. Maybe even more spot.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Comedy, right, Like, yeah, comedy is a tough I feel
like that is a very hard craft to step into,
you know, especially because not everyone thinks every joke is
funny or finding the right thing. But versus somebody who's
doing like a physical act like shooting a bow with
your feet or something like that, you can miss obviously,
But it's the repetition that practice with that I think
is a little different than you know, getting people, uh,

(20:50):
you know worked up or entertained by your voice. You know,
it's it's just it's a little different. I think it's
more difficult, in my opinion, than if I was doing
like if I had to choose between playing for ball
in acting, to me, playing football would be easier because
it's all physical for me, Like obviously there's a mental
element of it, right, and you got to know how
to read people and do stuff on the field, but

(21:11):
you're constantly working at that, and like physicality wise, I
feel like it would be easier than trying to convince
someone that I'm as somebody else or some crazy Hulk Cogan,
you know, Like it's a different factor. I don't know,
but so in that sense, I think comedy would be
more difficult.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's funny, and people do judge comedy on another level
that is not fair, like in this and I do too,
But people think that they can do it because everyone
can tell a joke to their friend, right, So there's
people who like it's funny. It was, And there's a
lot of circus people that do a GT like really
sirt disolay like all these types of brilliant things, And

(21:47):
it was funny talking to them. I watched them do
the most amazing things I've ever seen in my life
that I could never do if I dreamed, right, you know.
And but they would say to me unanimously, like you
go up there without anything without like how do you do?
I'm like, are you you mean? You just did four
hundred backflips on fire like, but they look at it
like you don't have a thing. It's just you by

(22:07):
yourself that you're naked on stage, you know. But like,
but then the flip side of it is people can
go all he's doing is telling jokes. He just shut
some things up in his mouth. What's he doing? You know?
People feel so comfortable criticizing comedy and then try it.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah yeah, how does that happen? Or how do you
handle you know, hecklers in the in the in the crowd.
Is that something that's fun for you or is it
like shut up?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
You know? I don't. I don't like hecklers. I mean,
I like silly, silly banter that evolves organically, Like if
I start talking to somebody and then we start having
a silly conversation, that's fun, you know, But hecklers, I don't.
I don't like a heckler, you know. I don't like
all this crowd work, this time period we're in TikTok
and all this I don't enjoy. I don't know if

(22:50):
it's good for the art form of stand up comedy
where views or art in general. I don't know. I'm
there's a lot of good, there's a lot of good
that can happen like gatekeepers are gone. Positive side is
there's not like four people in charge of Hollywood who
can decide if you do or do not deserve to
be here and follow your dreams or not. I mean
that's fifty years ago. I mean it's longer ago. You know,

(23:12):
Like there used to be like a few comedy clubs
and if you don't get in, you're not working in comedy,
you know. And uh, but now TikTok is free raid
for everybody, so there's no gatekeepers. It's people get to decide.
But it's algorithms mixed with a lot of trash. I
don't know. I think there's more diarrhea. People like diarrhea

(23:32):
for some reason, and there's less beautiful art getting put
out there. And TikTok is part of China. I was
in the San Francisco and a the uber driver telling
me it's people from TikTok. She drops people off at
TikTok and they're like, I don't use TikTok. I work there.
It's disgusting, as evil, as terrible. I don't know, you
know I'm talking about it. It's like China. TikTok is

(23:53):
made to h They put science out there music and
stuff and there's a limit on time, you know. And
here it's like the trends are like burn your friend
with hot water challenge, you know, and like drink purple sauce. Yeah,
but it's genuinely this is not conspiracy stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
This is like really literally what it is.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
But I think that's that's happened in comedy. There's a
lot of that kind of stand up comedy that's thriving
right now. There's a lot of great stuff thriving too,
but there's a lot of that kind of comedy where
I'm just like, I don't know, so.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
And with that, I feel like that just comes with
the volume, right, If you increase the volume to exponential levels,
you're gonna get a mixed bag, right. I Mean that
definitely seems like that would kind of play into it
a little bit. Yeah, but yeah, man, speaking of comedy clubs,
what was it like doing the Comedy Store?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I love. I mean, I've been performing there for twenty
years and I got to so I have ANUE stand
up special Taylor Williams and Taylor Williamps and Live of
the Comedy starts on YouTube. It's free for everybody.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Sorry. The way I aimed that question made it seem
like I didn't know you did it multiple times. I'm
not What is it like to play the comedy Story?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
What I love about the Comedy Store is like it's
no matter who you are when you go on stage,
it's hard, right, Like if you want to see like
great comics struggle and be humbled, watch them at the
Comedy Store. Because the crowd. It doesn't matter how famous
you are on TikTok and if you have a little
cult that likes you and that comes to see you
and whatever. You have to be funny to work to

(25:29):
survive on stage of the Comedy Store. And uh, I mean, listen,
there's not funny people that work there, and I might
not be fine. I'm not just plenty people think I'm
not funny. You know that's fine, But like that the
Comedy Store keeps me like during COVID it was a
really hard time and coming back and bouncing back and
the business changed a lot and not working for here,
and like it always in hard time, So I think,

(25:51):
am I good enough? Whatever? Like when I get stage
time in the Comedy Store, it reminds me like, oh,
I'm pretty good at this, Like I've worked really hard,
and I feel respected by the comedy community and that
kind of thing, you know, like I feel like a
real artist, you know, it's important to me, you know.
And so getting to film my comedy special there was
like a big honor and uh, yeah, have you been

(26:14):
out there before? Ye?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
There and laugh factory. I usually go to very cool.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah you've been in the comedy store. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love it. I haven't been in a little while.
But like that's where like Chris Rock when he needs
to work out jokes, he goes there, like he like
like because it's giving me a real reaction, you know,
and it's not just your fans. It's like a real
America audience, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, like the it's a very industry heavy spot, right.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well, that's what it is. But that's same what I meant, Like,
I don't know, I'm just blabbering about all things right now.
But like in comedy and it's not a bad thing.
It's I don't like it. But I'm probably being Uh
I'm probably old and bitter if I'm saying that I
don't like it, because it's I was before and like
every generation has that, know, Like I think he should
be funny. Funny, not funny to this specific demographic. But

(27:05):
there's people who like, I'm doing this guy's podcast tomorrow.
This guy Mody. He's like a brilliant comedian. He's always
been funny, but he's blowing to Jewish people. I'm Jewish,
but he's like the most superstar Jewish comedian on the planet.
Like he sells out around the world, and he talks
about Asconazi Jews versus Sparta Jews. Like it's also funny.
But if you don't know what we talking but you

(27:26):
don't get it. But he's funny, but he also can
do the comedy seller, he could do the comedy stuff
you wanted to be funny.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
You know my in my DNA, my older brother did
the twenty three and me and we have like the
highest percentage of anything is the Ashkazi jew.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Oh mazel tov. Yeah, that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
But my mother's like super Christian and we were baptized,
we weren't raised Jewish, but like we have that in
our Yeah, that's cool. But I always say I'm half
and half, even though that doesn't really make sense.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I think it makes sense. You have you have DNA
proof of that. Yeah, Okay, it's just I don't know.
The point is the comedy not told enough you guys.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
But you know, I I've portrayed two of the greatest
Jews on film.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Really you have not whole col No, no, not that
I know. No, No, I don't share. I don't think
hold but uh, what great Jews did you portray? Well,
mel Brooks and Jesus. Oh my goodness, yeah, pretty two
pretty good ones. That's major. Yeah, yeah, what did you
portray mel Brooks and History of the World Part two?

(28:30):
That's so cool, dude.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, it was some big honor man like. That was
a that was an amazing show to be a part of.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Dude. He took me to the premieres this plus one.
I was like freaking out, this is this is legend.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
So mel Brooks saw you work? Yeah yeah, yeah he didn't.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
He didn't come to set when I was there that
I know of, but he said he came to the
premiere and he, you know, was highly heavily involved in
the entire show, writing it and producing it and everything,
and just yeah he was.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
He saw you perform.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, I mean we were enter the premiere and I
was it was I was him. You open up the
show with me.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, dude, so mel Gibson. Mel Gibson
yet only for Halloween. He's the least respected to the Jews.
You could do Brooks and mel Gibson. That'd be big, big,
big controversy. Wow. I never thought about the spectrum of
males to the to Judaism. Yeah, we love some, we

(29:31):
don't love some else. Yeah, that's never thought about that either.
Is there a Kanye? Is there a Jewish Kanye who's like,
who's beloved by Jews? I don't think.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I don't know any other Kanye is nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's just one. But uh uh so you got whole.
Cogan has probably seen you. The Rocket seen you. Yeah,
Jesu Jesus has seen you. Yep, yep, He's everything. Like, Wow,
that's really cool. I love this stuff that this business
is hard and confusing and stressful and like that kind
of stuff. Like really, I have to remind myself how

(30:03):
lucky I am when we all get to do this
kind of stuff, like to get to entertain people who
entertain us. What a beautiful thing. You know? Do you
have something like a I mean, really stands out to you.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
You know, I just like working for people. I guess
that I respect a lot, mainly producers and stuff like that.
And I did a lot of PA work around you
know a lot of people, which was great. But yeah,
I mean I would be coming from the production assistant
perspective in the production or sorry, producer side, so like, yeah,

(30:40):
definitely working with mentors, working for mentors, but nothing, you know, nothing.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
No, I wouldn't say that because I think you know,
not that you can mention it. But some of the
stuff you're working on right now is like with with Legends,
Oh thank you.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
You have to mention there. I'll tell you off air
right now. I will walk out of your house right now.
What are you going to well enjoy the walk spin.
How many minutes do we have? Well?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
No, yeah, Like but even my first job ever as
a production assistant on Oceans thirteen, right like walking around
set with George Brad, Bernie Scott Conn and Casey Affleck
were young and skateboarding everywhere, and like I was literally
a you know, sixteen year old production assistant or something,
but like just trying not to screw up. Yeah, but

(31:34):
you know that was insane, and working for Matt Damon
and Michael Douglas on the Liberachi film for HBO. You
know stuff like that where even as a PA, you're
still being able to watch these people work, right shadowing
Doug Ellen on Entourage, watching the interactions there as like

(31:55):
an intern just showing up to watch. So stuff like
that where I'm not involved directly really at all, but
I'm observing it, right, So it's.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Just in proximity alone, you know, being able to observe
that level of production and that craft is like it
changes you.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, sure, for sure, A good way to put it.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's awesome. That's the other thing that's fun is to
get to be inside a thing that you grew up
watching too. Yeah, Like I remember I did love Line
like ten years ago for the first time, and like
I listened to that when I was in high school.
I did Doctor Drew's podcast later, like I apologized him.
I was like, I think I was probably your worst
guest ever on Love Lining, and so he's like why,
and I was like, because I forget I'm on the show.

(32:35):
I'm just listening. I'm just like, Oh, what's he going
to say about that?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Wow, I just think these things. I'm like, oh, I'm
supposed to chime in, you know. Yeah, yeah, but that's
so specially you got to work with those people so young.
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, learning experiences right, like just trying not to screw
up and learning what I can and yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's fun. Though.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Do you have like a project or a show that
you want to do, or a special you want a
film somewhere? Like, is that in a pipeline for you,
like a vision for yourself of what you want to achieve.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah. I'm always shopping shows and pitching shows, and I've
sold some shows that got pilots and then never end
up anywhere. And then sometimes it goes like that. Yeah,
it goes like that a lot, honestly, and like and
but I have was showing development development right now with
this company Love Productions that did Great British Bakeoff and
a whole bunch of show.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Love that show. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
So I have a really really silly cooking show format
that I'd be hosting with this brilliant actress Ginger Gonzaga,
and uh, we like created it and we're pitching it
and we're about to wait. So we have them attached
and we're about to start pitching it soon. So, but
it's funny. It's like two years in the making. You know,
I love you know how the stuff, this stuff goes.

(33:48):
It's like, this business is like trying to do things
by yourself, you know, like not waiting for opportunities. You know,
it's so much work, and it's so much unpaid work,
you know, and hustle and rejections. But what keeps me
going is everyone mel brooks, yeah, and tell me this,
but I don't think. But like from the story exactly

(34:11):
the story I heard is that every every studio said
no to the producers except for one. Yep. So I
have to remind myself all the time, whether it's business
or dating or whatever, you don't need everybody. You see
one person who's like, you know what, I believe in you.
And that's that's what my career has been for, like
agents and production companies that want my shows. Like I've
never been the guy that like five studios are like,

(34:32):
oh my god, we want to make your show. You know,
it's always like one guy who goes, I think you're great.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I'm like, really, I think even with the biggest people
out there, like a Christopher Nolan or something, right, like
they're even their projects are being told no all the time. Yeah,
you know what I mean. And it's I think you're
totally right. That's like the nature of the industry just
fucking keep trying and trying get out there.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
And that's like with the Kevin Costner. You know, he
wanted to make his films he's doing right now for
fifteen horizon, like fifteen twenty years, and nobody ever gave
him the green light. And that's Kevin Costner, you know.
So now finally he got financing. He's out there just
doing it.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Man. Wow.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
And so it's like I've been around enough successful people,
the ones that are on a high level are even
working their way towards a better career. It's just they
really let you know, you got to you gotta work
at it, you got to create it, you got to
go out there and make it happen. So to your point,
you know, it's you know, you get turned down and
shut like people shut you down all the time and
say that pilot's not good enough for this or that.

(35:35):
But there's so many ways to create content now in
so many places for content to live, you know, and
there's an audience out there for just about everybody. At
this point, you just have to keep knocking down those doors.
And so even if you need one person to say
I believe in you, I wouldn't even go that far.
I would say, just keep believing in yourself to the
point where you don't stop you even if you have
to make it yourself. You see these some of these people,

(35:56):
like I saw Andrew Schultz, he made his own special
and then put it out independently, right, and then it
was a success, right, And that doesn't happen very often.
But it's one of those things where you get just
you just got to find a way. I think you
just have to find a way. And it's not easy.
It's this especially this industry is highly competitive, and yeah,

(36:17):
it's super difficult. But yeah, I think if if you
just don't quit and you keep trying different stuff like
there is, it's a limitless to what you can actually do.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
It's just it's just tough. You just you gotta put
in the work.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
So my special, I self financed it, and like I was, like,
I started twenty years ago. So I started, like you
don't do you wait till someone offers you a thing?
You know, and I guess saw what he did, and
a lot of people have been self producing their stuff,
and I was just like, you know, I've been talking
to people about doing it for two or three years,
and I'm just like, you know what, before COVID I
was talking about self I was trying to find my

(36:51):
fancy director to do it, you know, like asking my
famous friends, we direct my thing. I don't know how
to make it, you know what I mean. But then
I I link up with this amazing directors guy Justin
Slade McLean and like and uh and then this amazing
DP named voy Tech, and we I got the Comedy
Store to agree to let me film there and like legendary. Yeah,

(37:12):
It's like I'm so I got I make a thing,
And like I I think in my twenty years, this
is the thing I'm most proud of. I made, Like
I made a standard special that's not just jokes, Like
I'm proud. I feel like I made like an art piece.
Like I'm so proud of it. And I loved it,
thank you so much, and I own it, you know,
and like yeah, so like like I want to get
more eyeball as many eyeballs as I can. I don't
have millions of views on it yet, but I turned

(37:34):
on one of the streamers offered me a deal that
I think was good enough, and I could have done
that and made some money quick, but then I don't
own it. I don't get to keep it. Like so
I'm excited about getting in myself and seeing what I
can do with it. And it's it's I'm new to
the YouTube thing. Like I haven't been pushing on social media.
I've been creating shows and selling shows and trying to
get big the old school way, you know, right, and

(37:56):
like so this is my first time putting myself out
there for the podcasting and I'm monetized on YouTube now
and figure out how all that stuff works. And it's
really odd to me. Like it's it's exciting, and I
wish I'd been doing it ten years ago, you know,
like we all like why I wouldn't do this before
people knew this was the thing, you know, Yeah, trying
to break through and this kind of it's it's it

(38:19):
is competitive. Like they say it's not a competition. I
think it is now. I truly think because of TikTok
and Instagram, like I feel for the first time it
definitely use a competition, like there's only so many just
so much time for people's eyeballs and ear holes, you know,
and for a comedian, there's only so many stages that
are in stage time that's available and locally and on

(38:39):
the road. So like I do feel like, oh, this
is I gotta this is I have to win this.
I think at least uh getting the top whatever, you know, Yeah,
hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
And that's like I think a healthy competition, like if
it forces you or challenges you to be better yourself,
like that, you're just gonna put out better work.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Then is I don't know if that's true for stand
up comedy. And this is from my perspective, And I'm
spending hours a day now editing clips instead of writing
and being creative and working on my craft. So I
don't know if it's making the art form better for

(39:19):
a stand up comedy, but they're still rumored. But the
good news is there is still if there are vessels
now for artists who weren't seen before given Like there's
this community Ian Bagg who's been around for longer than
I've been around, and he's so funny and the industry
just never gave him that we're gonna make you that guy,
you know whatever, the Pixie dost whatever I'm doing, I

(39:40):
don't know. And but because of YouTube and like he's
been doing crowd work for years. But he's brilliant. It's
not it's not hackey, it's not basic, it's not lowest
common denominator like whatever. It's smart, brilliant stuff. And because
of like you said, things line up sometimes or whatever.
They people want like CrowdWork stuff, they like, authentic moments whatever.

(40:01):
Well he's the king, he's the superstar of that. So
all his clips are now blowing up and he's selling
out all over the world and it's such a joy
to see. And this is comedian Todd Glass, who's who's
been around for a long time, probably sixty one of
the funniest communities in the world. And he's killing you
on TikTok so like and he found like a younger
someone of the twenties is helping him make videos and

(40:22):
stuff they do like sketchyes, like doing different types of comedy,
so there is room. And he gave me some advice
like instead of being like, well this isn't what I saw,
no for you, like I don't want to be like
I'm like old. I'm thirty seven. I'm like talking like
I'm a ninety year old bitter median. But like, there
are ways to adapt to this format, and I'm trying
to figure that out while also not compromising my standards,

(40:43):
my main thing, you know, And I still want to
sell my TV shows and stuff too, strips and all
this stuff. So it's right now, I'm going hard on
editing clips and all this stuff. But it's not what
I want to be doing, but it's what I need
to be doing right now, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
I mean you're literally doing everything right.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, I'm trying, you know. Yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's a lot. It's a lot to do.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
But then the other side of it, the other side
of it too is like, if I'm being self aware
and honest, are you still have to work an hour
a day? Now? I have to work eight hours a day,
you know. So there's that happening to lazy ass comedians
like I've been many times in my life, you know,
where it is a full time job, you know. Yeah,
hell yeah, and now we have to treat it as such,

(41:23):
you know, So it makes sense. Yeah, So it's it's
it's confusing, and there's and no one knows anything too,
you know, like everyone's just kind of figuring it out.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, no one knows, like the algorithms or like anything
like that.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah. Like there's this kid of alp Barbosa who was
opening for me a couple of years ago, and then
he blew the fuck up on Instagram and TikTok and
he happens to be like a really special artist. But
for whatever reason, the algorithm just understood that and people
all agree with it. And he's a superstar now, and
like two years ago, he was just scraping by and

(41:56):
making the little money I can afford to pay opener,
you know, right, And it's that's your joy to watch him.
But it's like stratospheric success. I I just like just
bizarrely wonderful to watch, you know. Yeah, and from clips online,
you know, and being authentically himself, not compromising himself. And
it's cool. So this that happens too. This, both both

(42:17):
things are happening. You know.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Have you have you performed in Austin a lot? Have
you done like Mothership or anything like that out there?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I've been to Austin a lot. I haven't been out
to that club. Have you been out there?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
No, I'm dying to go, and I know it's like
a comedy mecca. And I assumed correctly obviously that you've
you know, been to Austin. But I think the Mothership
is like a new, newer place, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think it's pretty new. But yeah, I was just
curious because I knew Austin was like a big comedic.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Like it's funny because it used to be. Austin was
always a respected comedy scene for decades at but it
was more the term like alternative comedy, like like cerebral
comedy kind of thing, and then not not club comedy
doesn't make sense to you, Like there was like people
like Maria Bamford or like Patton Oswalt would love going
to Austin, like it would be like kind of like

(43:12):
Austin's weird was their whole you know, like Elijah Wood
lives there, you know, like that was that was what
Austin used to be known as two Artists if that
makes sense. I don't know the word for it, but
like quirky uh kind of stuff. And then Joe Rogan
moved there and all these people move there and like
now it's like a different it's kind of the comedy
store move there. It's like that kind of vibe of
like kind of I don't know the word for it,

(43:35):
but it's like, uh, it's not that kind of comedy
and it's more more club comedy. It's more I don't
know the word for it, but a different style and
the But it's so it's interesting, it's cool, like it's
but now comedians are moving there too to become two
great big comedians are moving to Austin now. So that's
that's what happens. Since covid is, comedians don't need need

(43:57):
to live in La or New York, right, And.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Do you think that's good for the industry having more
places like that?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Of course, I mean it's amazing. I mean, I'm I'm
I'm fascinated by it because, like you used to, there's
no barrier to entry anymore for artists, for stand ups,
especially because it used to be you don't need to
But ninety nine point nine percent of the comedians who
make it whatever that is, they move to Elia or
in New York. That's what used to be. Some people

(44:23):
can't afford to move to Elier in New York, right,
Some people don't have a car to get there. Some
people don't have the people tell the belief in themselves
that they can do it. You know, they don't know
people out there, so it just seems so scary. But
now that you can, you can be in San Diego,
you can be in Florida, and you can thrive anywhere
because of this kind of stuff. So it's one, it's
wonder it's a wonderful thing. And again that the part

(44:45):
of what's competitive is now there's a few years ago,
there's legit maybe a thousand people who identify as a comedian.
Now there's tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands. Wow,
And it's really bizarre. And I talk to my friend's
dad who's a photographer, and he's like, that's now you
know how photographers feel? Oh yeah, because everyone got to
oh you're agra, I got a camera, Like what you know?

(45:06):
It's funny And I hope I joke about sounding like
a bitter guy. But it is fascinating how and all
our art arts change and evolved. And I remember when
Twitter came out. I was excited. I was like, this
is so cool. And I talked to a comic who's
like twenty years older than me, And he was like,
what is this? What do I have to do?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Now everyone's a journalist ry.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
I thought it was so cool because I love quick jokes,
you know, and that's what Twitter was just jokes. It was.
It was more like trying to have the funniest, snarky joke.
And now it's just the diarrhea stuff. But and fighting
and all this stuff. But and anyways, it's interesting how
things evolve. And yeah, well I.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Think that's why we'll never have another you know, Michael
Jackson or an Elvis or you know, like some of
these major major stars, because it's just it's it's kind
of oversaturated now with talent, and there's so much access
to people and whether it's on social media, whether it's
on multiple platforms, whatever it is, and there's so many
people do and stuff. You know, now you're see there's
ten thousand comedians out there. There's just no way for

(46:07):
it's not hyper focused anymore. You just can't. So you
really have to do stuff to just stand out and
kind of make a difference.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
And unless you're Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Unless Swift she's pretty big, Yeah, she is pretty big.
Who's Who's like, who's someone who's famous that your mom
knows and we know you know, and then also like
my little brother or something. Yeah, yeah, it just it doesn't.
I mean Leonardo DiCaprio. I remember seeing like some Q
ratings like whatever, like you guys know, it's like how
popular someone is, right and well known or whatever? Right? Am?

(46:36):
I right? It's something that I remember seeing. This is
like ten years ago someone posted who who has the
highest Q rating is a bunch of YouTubers who I
had never heard of, and then Leonardo DiCaprio. DiCaprio's at
the bottom. Wow, because like these kids.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Don't Titanic is too old for then we grew.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Up like he was the guy whatever, you know, and
like these kids are like there.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Wasn't even there wasn't YouTube And what do the kids
watch all day every day? Yeah, and that's what the
majority of them have wanted to aspire to be as
a YouTuber.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
He's also made a lot of R rated movies after Titanic.
Thinking about that, like it's not like he's in a
big Pixar film or something that would reach that younger
jen either.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Well, I think also like if you know, think about
his age and wear Titanic skews in that audience base too, right,
it's still a little bit older, and then as you grow,
like you see that with Disney Stars, right, They'll start
off younger and they garner that younger audience, but then
they stay with them through their life and then you
get more as you keep going. But their your art
and your audience is going to grow. So it's like

(47:37):
Justin Bieber. You know, nobody older an older demographic didn't
like listening to Justin Bieber, and then he got a
little bit older and he came out with some better
music and you're like, oh, dang, I actually come along
to mess with Justin Bieber right now. And he just
keeps getting better as it gets older, I think. But
it's just following that crowd in that demo and then
kind of catering to a new audience as they keep going.
So you to your point though, like Leonardo Kappri didn't

(47:58):
start doing you know, Pixar or even his.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
First movie as a teenager with Wahlberg was Basketball Diaries,
which I think was rated R and PG thirteen rated R.
I'm pretty sure. So like anyway.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
About Growing Pains from he was in Growing Pains, was
he what business. Are you in it? But you're not
in show business? Pal, If you don't know about man
Or DiCaprio when he guest started on Growing Pains.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I'll take the l on that for sure. I'll take
the is that like not knowing Drake was.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Into Now this is worse than that, Like he was
his dad was an alcoholic. And and this the sever
family that they thought Leonardo DiCaprio was drinking all their
their liquor.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Oh okay, but do.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
You know spoiler alert, do you know what happened. It's
like he turned out he poured it all down the
drink because he didn't want the sever family to be
alcoholics like his dad.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Oh that's sweet. I like that, yeah, shout out yeah,
Growing Pains, Oh yeah, I'll take the l on that.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I feel like I've been aggressive, and I apologize and
I forgive you for not watching my show in nineteen
eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
I was born in ninety so god, I'm old.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
How are you thirty two? Dude? It's so I'm thirty seven.
I cannot tell you how weird it is to be
older than people. Now, Oh yeah, you know, the weirdest
thing is being older than like athletes that.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I would say, I feel that too, It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yeah I was, Yeah, I'm with you. I was always
I was big, so I like would hang out with
an older crowd. But I was always the youngest one
in high school. I graduated seventeen. I was always my
entire life the youngest guy. And now I'm like, oh,
hanging out with some peers the same age, cool, the
same thing. So you're younger than me, you're in your
twenty still. Yeah, Oh it's weird.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah. Yeah. Like when I find like the the WW
champions younger than me, I'm like, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. What
was that like interviewing all the wrestling stars? Because I
saw that video on your YouTube page. I was like, dude,
that's sucking us.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh you did a deep dive.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah. Before COVID, I was going to start working with
Fox Sports and being like a goofy correspondent for like
WW programming on Box like daily show kind of corresponding,
like talking to fans and wrestlers and stuff. And then
the world ended and it happens, you know, oh yeah, right, yeah,
I was gonna start WrestleMania twenty twenty, like March or
April that year, like some bad stuff happened and then

(50:18):
and then uh but uh yes, but I was like wrestling.
It's like it's funny, like I don't watch it all
the time anymore at all, but like I have so
much respect for them as like performers and artists, and
I just honestly like wrestling is like did you ever
watch wrestling in your life?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah? For sure.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
That's like a comic book, so like it's like it's
like the same stories from twenty years ago or like
still kind of interconnected, you know. And uh and I
also just love watching There's this there's used to be
this legendary show in LA called PWG and uh so
many huge wrestlers. Now I saw them wrestle there in
like a ten y VFW hole for like two hundred people,
and like now they're like headlining WrestleMania and stuff. Literally,

(50:56):
So it's it's like stand up for any art. Like
it's and to watch people when they're starting out and
then following their dreams, so like it's cool to I
enjoy that part of it, you know, like yeah, I
follow it kind of in that kind of way. And
see what's going on. And that's my fallback plan for wrestling.
Have you ever tried it? No, No, I've been. People
think you're a wrestler at the airport. I get that

(51:17):
a lot. Actually I do get that a lot.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
But I've had conversations about doing it multiple times, and
I just I was like, I'm just gonna do this
acting thing, man, i'letna see what happens, because this is
where my passion is.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
You know, did you work with Travo Guerrero He was
on set. Yeah, that's cool. Great, he's a legend. I
got to kill him in a with the lightsaber and
in a short film. That's awesome. That's how it's in
my life. On us. I love that travel is great.
That's that's so specially you got to work on that Stete.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yeah, we were supposed to do this big I don't
even know if I'm allowed to say this, but we
were supposed to do this big wrestling scene. We're going
to remake one of the WrestleManias where you know, whole
kind of passes the torch over the rock.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I think it was like eighteen or.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Something that something like that, but uh, yeah, we didn't
end up getting to do it because of time being
and scheduling and all this stuff. But we were going
to do all of this planning and rest would have
been so sick, dude, and I would have worked a
lot more with him obviously at that point. But yeah,
I do you know, the guy has an absolute legend.
Everyone talks so highly about him too, man. And and

(52:15):
when we were at Comic Con too, there was the Glow,
the original Glow actresses, Yeah, across from us, and they
were they were talking about him too, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Just worked on that new It's a movie.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
But the Von Eric Family, yeah, with Efron, Yeah, yeah,
I need to see that still. Have you seen it.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
I've seen the documentary that I think it's based on.
I might be spreading a rumor, but my buddies.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Well, if it's based on the real people.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Based on real people, Yeah, there's a documentary that came out.
But I'm not trying to spread rumors. But uh, these guys,
Evan Husting and Jason Eiser have to shele the dark
side of the Ring on Vice and they did an
episode on the Von Eric Family. It's like it's tragic
and fascinating and anyways, but that's came the movie. Okay, yeah,
but Chava worked on that too, so shout out to Java.

(53:05):
That's the guy. I can tell you. So that's the
guy I saw it wrestle as a child, like live
in San Diego with the Cox Arena, you know, and
then I got to like being a little sketch with him,
Like that's like it's like a full circle kind of. Yeah.
I have to constantly remind myself, like you know, like, oh,
I'm frustrated about this, but like, oh I got to
do this, like I make a full sentence in my head,
like want to stay positive. Like if I could tell

(53:25):
twelve year old Taylor that you got to act in
the scene with Chavo Guerrero, like you'd be like, oh,
that's pretty cool, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah in my language, where did ah, where did comedy
or your interesting comedy originate? Did you have family or
is it just.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I didn't love comedy as a kid, I wouldn't grow up.
I was like a sarcastic, douchey kid, probably, you know, honestly,
and then uh and then uh just a smart ass,
you know, and then uh, but obviously I was a
wrestling fan and there were these Indie Kaufman documentaries on
Comedy Central that I think when h PO years before then,
but they talked about Andy Coffan, how he would go

(54:04):
to when he was a start on taxi when he
was like back when there was I don't know, ten
TV shows on TV. I don't know how it works.
Back then, you know the four channels talking about like
the opposit him. Now you know Andy Cofman was so famous,
but he was working at Jerry's Delhi as a busboy
on Sundays. Wow, like because he's just weird, you know,
and just wanted to be Andy coffining it up. And

(54:26):
then uh. He would also go down to Memphis, Tennessee
and wrestle, and his whole stick was that's before wrestling
was national. So people in LA didn't know what was happening.
But people in that's where we filmed the last season,
oh yeah yeah. And so but out there like that territory,
like the states around there, they would see Andy Kaufman

(54:46):
come and be like you you Southern Hicks. And he
would fight women from this from the crowd who were
like plants you now, and like but like that got
me interested in interested in comedy. I was like what
is this this whatever?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
And I started in high school, and that is an
interesting combination of the two, right, like where they intersect
in like this amazing way with this legend.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, wrestling everything's kind of wrestling, Like Trump
is wrestling like it's it's insane, but like politics has
become pro wrestling.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Dude, the ovations he gets with Kid Rock and Tucker
Carlston walking in at UFC and all that, you know,
Like but he also did w w E too, right,
like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
He was they made him something happened. Oh so WW
is a publicly traded company and they and they had
a storyline. I don't know, everything I say is ten
years ago. I don't know, it's ten years ago maybe,
And the storyline was Donald Trump bought WW from vincick
Man and then they had to do a press release

(55:49):
the next day because it messed up the stocks. Wow.
And then this is not real. This is when he
was just the goofy H talk TV show host right right,
and uh they had announced that anyways, but yeah, he
was like a major part of wrestling over the decades
and uh yeah, like he totally used what he learned
from that and it somehow worked, and it's all a

(56:12):
shit show, you.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Know, showmanship and yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
It's a bunch of nonsense, you know, and talk talk
radios and the cable news is wrestling just saying cutting
promos is the term that used in wrestling for when
you give him like Haul Coogan's like, I'm gonna see
you WrestleMania. You think you could do that? Whatever, that's
what That's what cable news is. I heard some story
about Keith Oberman went to some baseball game and his

(56:39):
said Sean Sean Hannity came up to him and I
was like, hey man, it's you know, it's all it's
all fun, you know, And Keith was like, I'm not
shaking your hand, it's not whatever. But these people, it's
all entertainment to a lot of them. They're just putting
on a show. And when I was in San Diego
years ago, I talked to a woman who would go
on like a rally factor, and she was a local

(56:59):
radio per, like a talk radio person, and she said
that Fox would call her and then do you want
to come be a guest to talk about whatever the
problem is? And she would go, which point of view
do you want me to take Oh, I'm a prower
against its right. And now this is happening the billion
degree level with TikTok and stuff. People are sharing things

(57:19):
they don't necessarily believe, but they're getting the trending. Like
when the Ben Lauden's Oh the people were sharing young
people gen z whatever. But these kids are sharing this.
Ben Lawden wrote a letter after nine to eleven saying
this is why I did what I did. So these
twenty years later, these kids are reading this letter going

(57:40):
someone posted, oh, I see where he's coming from. And
then it started trending. So then other people go, I
want followers too. Oh, it must be a good point
of you to take. So other people are sharing it
and then young naive or probably old all naive people
around the world are like, oh, wow, this is trending.
Maybe this is a point of view I should take.
And TikTok is just destroying society. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
A younger generation that didn't really experience it, you know,
like where I was ten years old or something, what happened.
It's like you're sitting here like that was I remember
when they turned on the TV and our teachers just
freaking out. You turn on the TV and you're like,
is this really happening right now?

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I watched it. Everyone remembers where they were, right, but
except for the people that were too young and don't
understand how serious it was.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah, wow man, Yeah, but it's funny, like young people
are becoming like the way that people our age have
been like saying, our parents on Facebook, they believe anything
they read on Facebook, you know, like our parents are
so what's the word, right, but there's a word for it.
They have poor media literacy, like they can't this uh

(58:50):
sect of something that's something I'm trying to sound smart.
They can't. They can't just something is legit or not.
You know. But young people, well they're on TikTok just
sharing stuff like this is good.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Doing that for sure.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
People people can't see the difference when it's like an
AI generated video of somebody.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
You know what. I'm fascinated by it. And you guys
are in the comic cun world. You know, these people
who are this popped up on my TikTok is some
guy who I didn't watch Walking Dead, but there's a
super famous actor from Walking Dead who this guy's whole
job now is just being a version of him.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
His characters Darren. His name is Daryl in the show.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I don't know if it's that, but there's anyway it was.
He has three names, three names in his name anyways,
but he's anyways. But like this, what would these people
be doing if they didn't have a guy who looks
exactly like them, who is a famous actor that they
can play the character of at comic cons and TikTok
and stuff. You know, right, Like what would his job be?

(59:49):
He's either it's either like I work at he was
an accountant, I'm an accountant, or or I'm gonna just
walk around playing this guy.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Yeah, yeah, would you see the Vin Diesel guy? No,
there's a guy that walks around his entire life. I've
actually seen him in person. Is is he goes around
to these different conventions. Where was I saw him at
a There was a car show convention or something like
I can'member it was in Vegas. Yeah, he goes around
as Vin Diesel and literally with the tank, like the

(01:00:18):
white tank that wife beater on and like just cruises
around and that she just has a career off that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah, you got to go around as the Hulk until someone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I don't look Oh yeah, I mean, can you please much?
Can you find this guy really quick?

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Please go to Tampa and go do karaoke for the
whole cogain.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
You got to come with us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I will the real American. But like, I don't think
you're taking this seriously, like we need to get you
in a hul cogaan in a photo together. Oh du
I love that. I agree this is the guy. I
thank you. I mean, I just feel like you guys
are just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Like I got your back on that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I want. I wanted to thank you. I care about you.
You know this dude. Wow, it's pretty good. I tell you.
He goes around everywhere. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
But but there's a bunch, like you said that the
comic cons all that stuff, there are guys that there's
some people you almost can't even tell the difference between
their character and then but.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
He's like married and has like a wife, and I guess, man,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
He looks like Andrew Dice Clay mixed with Bendizel.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
You know what I'm saying right, Like it's not spot on,
but like from a distance you'd be like, Okay, yeah,
that's amazing. Wait a minute, So these are all Are
any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
The real one?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Nah? Definitely not. But that's I'm not chiming me. That's
embarrassing now. I mean I don't know that is it.
But if you're out to him. But then if he's
happy and it's making people happy, it's wonderful, right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Right, He's got to get something out of it, you know,
he must get a lot of Uh. He's probably got
to the point where people were saying it so much
he's like, all right, I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Because he if it's like you look kind of like
you might as well just go all in and just
like shave your head and go to the gym and wear
shirts like that. He must love it. He must be
so happen loves it. I don't know, but I would
say he loves it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
If your cruising around in the daily fashion rock around
like that's your dude, you gotta like it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I've spent a lot of time around stand ins on
on set, right, So like if you're Brad Pitt stand
in and you're like hanging around dressed as Brad, like
you're you're feeling yourself. Yeah, Like I'm not putting standings down.
I love everything they're nice, they're cool, they get it,

(01:02:31):
but it's like they got a little swagger going. They're
trying to like embody it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
But you know there's some like famous people who do
that too, Like Jojo Siwah. I saw she has a car.
She's like a famous uh I think YouTube, a Nickelodeon girl.
Not she's a singer, she does all the things, but
she's like soup some of the people that like, I'm like,
who's this. Oh, she's the most famous thing on the planet, right, Yeah,
so she's a big deal with Jose's. She drives around
in a car everyday life like as Jojo Siwah all

(01:02:58):
over it really and it's just her car in a
car I was at I was at a studio and
the car was there and I thought, oh, they're just
that must be like her promo thing when she does
podcasts or whatever, like someone travels with her. I don't know,
Oh no, that's her car. She drives herself everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Yeah, I wouldn't want that kind of like, you know,
blowing up your spot. Yeah, Like I'm trying to be
low key here, man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Do you guys do you guys like attention when you're like,
would you like to drive a nice car and have
people like go, hey, no judgment, like I'm not, I'm not,
I mean not really. I drove her in a Ferrari once.
My friend rented a Ferrari when he came in town
and he's like he's in the He's like, get in
the thing and we're on the beach in Santa Monica. Yeah,

(01:03:43):
and then uh, I was like no, like what, I'm
not going to get in your Ferrari and try to
drive it. Also, this is weird. I'm not gonna but
I could tell mentum to him, like he's just like
excited to show up and a brand like hey, so
I got in the is a great guy. I got
in his car and I drove and like I think
three times within like ten minutes, people like whistling, like

(01:04:05):
all the things that you thought it was in a movie,
right right, Like it made me a celebrity having a
cool The Balet guys were so nice to me. Girls
are guys. You're like, yeah, dude, and I'm just like
what it was bizarre, So I get I can like
make fun of someone, but this guy. My experience that
has been Diesel, even though it's not he didn't earn it. Yeah, yeah,

(01:04:27):
I love that now, that's exactly what.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Yeah, I know plenty of people like that that, you know,
they'll get the event door or they'll get or whatever
and they'll drive around. And I remember I met this
guy a long time ago and he took me to Coachella.
We were like, yo, let's go. We've drove in his Lamborghini.
And the entire time people were screaming, yelling like you
you're getting that line to get there. They're all freaking
out right, But the second he stepped out of the

(01:04:49):
car and they'll be sitting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
You know what I mean, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
And then but they were doing it to me like
and he's like, dude, walking around with you is like
driving in my car.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I'm like, well, that's why I drive a pre is
bro so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
But it was just it was one of those things
where I was like, I didn't know that that's what
kind of attention people, And so you got to get
some kind of if that's what you're looking for, getting
a nice car like that is the move, you know,
and you know what, I just don't look for that,
Like I don't I don't need that kind of validation.
Or that kind of you know, it's not for me personally.
I'm I'm an introvert.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
MA I'm good, I am a But then I being
trying to be self aware to analyze where my where
my comparison or judgment or critical criticism is coming from.
And like I'm not being fair because I'm lucky that
I'm a comedian and I'm able to get whatever that
ego thing is out when I'm on stage, yep. And

(01:05:41):
that's not why I do it, but I get that
maybe that's something that's human nature. Maybe that's something that
I secretly want to know, but I have no desire
for that kind of attention anywhere else. And like and
like that's my worst name. Are drivering down the stream?

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
People are like whooh, Like like I'm trying to drive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
But some people don't have that. They're not actors and
they're producers and they can't create to get that through
another way, you know, like some people can make make
a movie and then sit in the back of the
crowd and watch the audience. Yea. And I hear some
filmmakers being pissed off about this Netflix world now because
they don't get to experienced that, you know, like, yeah, so,

(01:06:21):
because let the guy have justin diesel and enjoy his
life exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
It's it's it's kind of a personal it's individual with people, right,
Like there are some actors like, I mean, I don't
know this this Jojo girl.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I've seen her, I know who she is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
I don't know, but she's got to love attention if
you're driving around in your character's vehicle, right, And that's
and that's nothing wrong with that. To the the opposite
of it is, I've saw this interview with Ben Affleck
and he's talking. He's like, I hate fame. He's like,
it does nothing for me, you know. He's like, it
happens to be important for my craft and as an entertainer,
you want to marry. That's person to it, right, he said,

(01:06:55):
He's like, but he was saying something like besides getting
out of a couple of speeding tickets, He's like, I
don't want to be seen and like all this stuff
like that is he didn't want all that stuff, you know,
but it is a byproduct of a career path that
you happen to be very successful at, you know. Twice yeah, no,
but it is that, you know, it's it's for It's

(01:07:15):
different for each individual, right, Like acting for me is
not so that I can have all these people come
and say, you know whatever, they're not whistling at me
down the street driving a nice car.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
That's not what it is for me. For me, I
love art, yeah, I love storytelling. I beautiful. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
And as a child, those are my escapes and I
want to give that back to people as an adult.
You know, so amazing and that's why I'm doing it.
But you know, not everyone's like that. And there's nothing
wrong with that, man. Some people just love the extroverts,
love the attention, man. And I'm like, dude, I respect
the hell out of that. It's just not for me.
Drive me crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Well, think about it too. She could be sitting there
like that's a business decision, right, Like that's branding for me,
where maybe it's like it's more about a marketing choice essentially,
versus like the attention.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
I don't know, And she's from the everyone option, but
she's from like this YouTube generation 're like being famous
and it is she's marketing herself and yeah, but I don't.
I mean, I just think we're getting murdered all the time,
you know, like even like artists who have like their
face on the side of the tour bus. I'm like,
you're a maniac. Why would you do that? Just be
a just be a random ass bus. Why do you
need your face? Al right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Like yeah, but it is, like we'll saying, I think too.
I think it's it's both factors, right, you know, it's
if that gets more tickets sold, and that keeps pushing
your career and keeps you have longevity in the space.
You know, it's competitive space, right, Like, it's a mix
of both. Rather you got the version of privacy or
go all out and kind.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Of I just want to get murdered, That's I don't care.
I mean, I don't know if anybody really wants to
get murdered. Some people want to get I'd look online.
There's some weird stuff out there, you know. Yeah, people
are into that, you know whatever, it teach their own
you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Uh, let's let's tell everyone where they can find you
and and what links to put and what do you
got coming up?

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Vindiesel dot com is my website. Uh, Taylor Williamson dot
com is my website. I have my tour dates on there.
I'm going to all over America. Where am I going?
When to Tempe, Arizona. I'm going to San Jose.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Piece of college town.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
I love you like college towns. They uh uh they got.
I'm going to Washington, DC area, Washington State, Seattle, Tacoma,
San Diego where I'm from. Taylor Wimpson dot com at
Taylor Comedy on social media and my comedy special on YouTube.
Look up Taylor Williamson Live at the Comedy Store. Please

(01:09:36):
and share with your friends and if you like it,
leave the comment. Mean the world to me. And uh
less introspective conversation, thought less thoughtful introspective conversation and my
special more just silly goofy jokes, you know. But uh
but it's important to have thoughtful introspective conversations as well,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I agree. Yeah, And I really enjoyed the time with you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
I really think thanks for having me. What do you
What do you thing? How do you think it went?
It's great, It's fantastic, like a skillful like like I
still don't think you like me? But I think this
is you think I don't like you. I like you?
Do you think I don't like you? You guys?

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
You guys made up?

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I thought I thought I liked him. Wait, wait, I
forgot I hated you at the beginning for some reason.
But why did I hate? I like you so much?
I overdid your your uh plain story. Yeah, I forgot to. Sorry,
my travel day sucks more than your travel. Your traveling
was way worse than bro. That's all right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
I was just freezing in Jackson Hole and then I
got stuck in Long Beach.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
You're all good, Bro, I had a great time. God,
I feel terrible. I help you. I care for you now,
but I hate I hate that you felt that I
didn't like you for a while. I didn't. I didn't
cap up the I am going to lose sleep tonight
over it. No, I'm going to lose sleep. I love
your dog. I love you. You're okay dying. I'm impressed
that you have no dog hair on this shirt. That's

(01:10:56):
just that's just.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Oh yeah, she hyperallergenic, doesn't she good?

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Yeah? Listen, and most importantly, please follow my dog on
social media at Betty the Puppy Doggie on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
It's all links, will be a description.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, that's the most freaking my special or my career.
Just followed my dog. I'm honestly at the point where
when you hit like I think, like thirty five, you
guys have a few years like that's when you go,
you know what, my dreams are great, but if my
child could live my dreams in said of mine, I
will be okay with that. Right So if you literally,
if you told me like your dog will make three

(01:11:29):
million dollars a year and you'll never do anything, I
would sign up for that right now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Because I would run Pennies bank account.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Yeah. Oh yeah, that's how that works. Yeah. Yeah, anyways,
but thanks for having me, guys, Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Dude, appreciate it. Thanks for tuning in to Studio twenty two.

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