From Viral Sensation to TV Personality and Filmmaker with Funnyman Brent Pella

In this episode of Studio 22, Brock and Will are joined by Brent Pella, a multi-talented comedian, filmmaker, television personality, and social media influencer. Known for his spot-on comedy skits that mimic iconic personalities like Joe Rogan, Andrew Huberman and President Biden, Brent shares his journey from creating viral videos to performing on stage. 

The conversation delves into Brent's creative process, exploring how he crafts his memorable impressions and navigates the ever-changing landscape of online comedy. Along the way, he reveals the challenges and rewards of balancing social media stardom with traditional comedy, and provides insights into the unique experiences that have shaped his career. Get ready for an entertaining and informative discussion with one of comedy's rising stars! 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You're listening to Studio twenty two.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to Studio twenty two. I'm your host Will Meldman,
joined as always with the beautiful Brocco Hearn beautiful.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Thank you man, Bold and beautiful.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
You know it's been over one hundred episodes. I don't
think I've mixed that up at all, but.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
No, yeah, we've We've been consistent with it. I think.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
We are joined today by comedian, YouTuber and all around
conscious bro Brent Pella.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
What's good, boys, what's going on? You are bold and beautiful?
Were those the adjectives? We can get some more if
you want.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
No, No, that's plenty, bro. Okay, we could have left
it at bold.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Didn't need the beautiful.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
But yeah, man, I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Thanks coming in, dude, Thanks for having me. Man, you
guys be hanging like person, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Dude, I am like so, I'm a big YouTube guy.
Coolig love watching YouTube clips. I'm always on and all
that and like, dude that like Trump Biden Rogan schedule.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, I was like dying that whole time.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Dude was fucking that was a blast, Dude. That was
like because you know, back then it was the dream
We all wanted Trump and Biden to go on Rogan
because everybody just would have looked terrible and it would
have been the most entertaining podcast you've ever seen. But yeah,
that was a fun one. That was a fun one.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Is that kind of the genesis of that idea, like
just something that we all kind of would want to
see and then throwing it together.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, it was. I really love playing in spaces of
like what the most current conversations are and like the zeitgeist,
you know. So at that time, people were like begging
for a Trump and Biden debate. They were just begging
for it, but they were begging for it to happen
on Rogan because he was getting all the steam from

(01:54):
everything he was talking about with COVID and everything. So
my buddy Austin Nasso, who does the Trump impression and
he's probably the best impersonator Donald Trump I've ever seen.
It was great. Yeah, So I wrote up, I wrote
up the whole thing. I pitched him on it. He
was super down. We shot it in my crappy living
room at the time, like against a green screen. It

(02:14):
was just us two and a bunch of lights and
some wigs, right. Yeah, it was fun, dude, it was
a good time.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
He kept calling it like a toaster oven or like.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, because that was his Rogan's old studio, was the
weird red thing. Yeah, it was a good time.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah. Those ideas just come to you like like left
and right or is it it's something you you'll see
and then you just want to spin it on its head.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, you know, the uh, the concept process for a
lot of that stuff. It comes from so many different sources.
Something that I often do is if I'm reading through
the news or seeing something on Twitter, whatever catches my eye,
if it makes me like kind of chuckle, or if
it seems absurd to me, then I'll I'll know I
gotta do something about it. And it's kind of like, oh,

(02:56):
this is dumb, I got what what would I want
to see? That's you know, uh, that would paint a
picture of this crazy ship that's going on.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
So yeah, I just saw that. Uh. I mean, I
just watched a bunch of your sketches actually, which I
thought are hilarious, but the Huberman one and You're like
the penis in the ground.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
And weird penis grounding.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
No, No, I mean I haven't tried yet.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh you need to do. It's going to reframe your
whole self, is it. Oh yeah, yeah, you get that
energy going up through your pen. Yeah dude, he that So,
like that's another thing, you know, everybody these days is
talking about, like biohacking and all the different ways you
can hack your belt, Like people are electrocuting each other
left and right with the pads and the wires and
intermittent fat There's a million different things you could do

(03:41):
for biohacking. So like that's how that idea came out,
came came across my brain. Is because I do a
bunch of different stuff too. You know, I'll do intermittent fasting,
I do sauna, I do cold plunge. I just started
peptides recently. So I'm doing a bunch of different things.
And I laugh at myself because I'm like, all right,
how many things am I going to gain superpowers here

(04:02):
from all this? Because if not, is it worth it?
So yeah, dude, just like mocking the space that that
I really love is one of my favorite.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Things to do.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, well it is. It is funny because people will
go all in with it, right, and then it'll become
their whole identity and the biohacking that entire space. And
you're like, yeah, because I'm all about health, bro, I've
been about health my entire life. But and I do
all a lot of this stuff. You know, I've got
the cold pluns, the sauna, the red light, you know,
emf like all that stuff, and I notice differences, right,

(04:32):
But if I don't notice a difference, why am I
doing it? But it's not like that's one element of
my life, right, But if it's all you're about, right,
it's not your personality.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
You're like a You're like a dude, Like you have
likes and hobbies outside of biohacking and health and fitness.
And some people are just so they get so hyper
focused on a thing that it becomes their whole world,
and then they treat it as like too sacred and
they can't laugh at it. And I like breaking down
that wall.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
From time to time, Like the four hours of sleep sketch.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, people who.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Sleep that long say they're better than you. Yes, we are, right.
I just I was thinking of Wahlberg during that for
some reason.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
But yeah, you know, yeah, Mark Wahlberg does that. Who else? Uh,
the Rock does that. He always talks about that, but
he seems like you're cool, dude.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't know, Oh no, for sure, all in good fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I'm just curious if those guys are saying that and
then like on the weekends they're sleeping sleep you know,
because I've heard people doing that, like you just get
through the week and then they have like a massive
sleep day or like a refeed or like whatever the
thing is.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well, I wonder if that's healthy. I don't know, just
don't sleep for five days and then I can knock.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Out for four I mean, from my perspective, whatever they're
doing is working. Yeah, so they've got something figured out.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
But yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's like a lot of
lifting and ship in there too.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, at least a little bit of cardio, Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah. But yeah, man, So where did comedy start for
you with? Is it? Does it professionally? And then also
was it just like you put someone in your family
funny or.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Was it just in school or so? I was raised
by a single mom, so she was always like my
first time you know. Yeah, she was like a deadhead
hippie mom, And so I grew up, you know, going
to a lot of concerts and like social events with her,
and that probably somehow gave me like a sense of
being friendly to people or like outgoing a little bit.

(06:25):
And then in high school, I remember my first film
class was sophomore year, and that was the first time
I started like well, in junior high, like seventh, eighth
and ninth grade, we shot a lot of silly videos
on like a little pocket handicam. Yeah, and this was
around like the peak of Jackass, So we were doing

(06:47):
Jackass style sketches that were just super silly, you know,
like somebody sledding down a hill and then like wiping
out and then adding some like stupid fake blood to
make it look like he was dying. Some you know,
easy junior high stuff like that. And then in high school,
I took a film class when I was fifteen, and

(07:08):
that taught me some of the different approaches toward editing,
adding music, creating like a short story within like a
minute or two minutes. And I took that. And when
I went to college, I was playing basketball in college
and I switched to film and media, and then I
broke my ankle junior year of college, so I couldn't
play anymore. But then I kind of like doubled down

(07:30):
into the major and I started doing work with the
student newspaper. I did it like a video series. So
I was really into production at the same time as comedy,
at the same time as like trying to still make
little short videos here and there with friends. In college,
I was also learned trying to learn about production from
the film major. And that was around the time the

(07:50):
Lonely Island guys were huge. So like when Andy Samberg
and them were like really popping, Yeah, like Dick in
a Box, I'm on a boat just had Actually all
of those were like our anthems in college. We were
blasting them at parties and so I took a lot
of inspiration from them. And I did a couple videos
in college that were like comedy music videos. And I

(08:11):
went to UC Santa Barbara. In Santa Barbara where.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's called Kate it was it.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Like the city, yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome. Yeah, it's a
beautiful spot. And so I took inspiration from the Lonely
Island guys. And you know, so I kind of like
I never there was never somebody in my family, really
everybody in my Family's funny, But my biggest inspiration came
from watching people operating at like a high level. Like

(08:41):
the first it was the Jackass guys, then it was
the Lonely Island guys, and then after that it was
like Will Ferrell and the SNL people and ye. So yeah,
college was like silly music videos and silly comedy videos.
And then when I moved to LA, I looked around
and I realized, oh shit, I suck. Like everybody here
is like good.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
I came from with a couple of thirty thousand view
music videos under my belt, thinking I was like hot, shit, yeah,
And then I got to LA and everybody's on a
TV show, everybody's getting on stage every night, and so
that's when I started throwing myself on stage to try
and just get better as a performer and as a writer.
And that was like ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, yeah, that literally sounds like the exact path of
like my childhood as well in terms of like defining
it by the comedians and the videos that we were seeing,
right yeah, yeah, so Lonely Island, Yeah, that's fucking incredible,
and also like learning production alongside that and the importance
of it you're seeing so many like YouTube channels that

(09:40):
are so highly produced.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Now, yeah, I mean it's really cool to see.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, it's dope, dude. And my first job in La
I had two jobs. I first started working at cheesecake Factory,
which was like classic restaurant.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I trying to do that. They wouldn't hire me.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
You didn't get hired? Was your hair too long?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
No? That's so. I had three friends that worked to
this cheesecake factory, just a little sidebar, really quick, and
the manager was it. He was like six or four.
Big dude literally said he won't hire me because he
thinks he won't be able to tell me what to do. No,
are you joking? I'm like, cool, I'll go back to
being broke nut.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
What location was it?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
That was an Orange County before, like I moved to.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
La Okay, yeah, but damn that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
But I wish I got that job.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Look, it was cool. I mean that wish. They gave
us free cheesecake. We got free soup and that was it. Yeah.
But yeah, so I was at cheesecake factory. And then
a year or two into working at cheesecake. This is
fresh out of college, I started working as a PA.
So I was a production assistant. Yeah, I was at
your first job. Yeah, dude, So like that was the
ship because I was on set and it was all

(10:45):
commercials and music videos and then like odd weird PA jobs.
I'll tell you a couple of weird stories if you want,
but like weird day trip weird shit. But the PA
jobs were cool, and I started getting more and more
and that pushed out the cheesecake factory your job, and
that was nice because I would PA all day from
you know, five in the morning until seven at night,

(11:06):
and then I would go to open mics all night
from like seven until one am, and then I'd go
to sleep and then i'd wake up and maybe have
another PA gig or uh. And then sometimes i'd be
in the production truck with like a video I just
shot editing, like with my walkie on loud, just in
case they called my name and told me to run
out a chair or whatever. So I'd be editing like

(11:27):
during PA gigs and just tried that la you know,
grind of first starting to create some shit out of nothing. Man,
it was fun. It was fun days.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean that's how you gotta get done. Really, Yeah,
that's sick though, it's like and you're running on four
hours of sleep probably.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, I was the four hours of sleep person.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I was just thinking because I moved around a
ton growing up, and so even high schools, I switched
nine times, so anything that I wanted to do got
shifted and I couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Did take an editing class and it was right when
the technology is pretty new at that time for schools.
When I was like a sophomore, It's crazy easy, how
rudimentary it was compared to what we can do now.
You know, I've seen that shift and how easy it is,
Like you can create almost a feature film on your
pyphone totally. Yeah. Is that How much has that shifted

(12:11):
for you? Like, as have you just grown with it?

Speaker 4 (12:14):
And oh yeah, I've grown with it for sure. It's
uh for me. It's like trying to think about how
much taller I am now than when I was six.
But it's like happened so incrementally that I have no
perspective on it. But that's because I've literally edited probably
every single day for the last one was in some
form of fashion yea something hands on keys. Now I

(12:36):
have a couple of guys that I have edited my
stuff just for time sake. But yeah, from high school
working on like the original final cut to now in
Adobe premiere, in after effects and there's you can create
some magic, dude, And it's cool movie yeah, and iMovie
And it's cool because it really puts creative power in

(12:58):
your hands in a much bigger ways. Now you can
make a feature film or a commercial or crazy cool
sketch at the drop of a hat.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Have you been had any chance to dabble with AI
in any way? Is the technology not there yet?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
I've I really want to and I'm excited to the
thing with AI, dude, is like AI is going to
replace so much in entertainment, it's insane. It's insane. Like,
fifty years from now, people are going to watch a
movie and look at each other and be like, can
you imagine fifty years ago when all of this was
real and it took like two hundred people to make

(13:31):
this shot happen? What? Yeah, Like there was people behind
the camera and there was like thirty people and they
won't be able to believe it because a movie fifty
years from now will be pure AI, which is just
insane to think about.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
They're AI influencers that you can barely that's right, Yeah, yeah,
how you search an Instagram page or like wait, they're
fucking faked, Yeah, like are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like, I mean, I can't hit on this check interd
She's not gonna respond.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's some gross dude in the basement. Yeah, yeah, really
gnarly man. But yeah, I think the all that tech
is it's going from like empowering independent creators to like
completely revolutionizing the industry, right because yeah, yeah, there's a
I that you can use to like recolor it or

(14:20):
like you know, things like that, like kind of the
I mean, which still takes a high skill set to
do properly right with like regular tech.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
So they're kind of.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Like slowly incrementally cutting through time. But it's it's just
Sora and shit, it's gonna change.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah. Yeah, you've already seen some stuff with Sora and
it is crazy, dude, crazy cutting back hundreds of that
millions of dollars worth of production in seconds.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
And there's pros and cons to it, you know. For
people like me, I want to move off the Internet
into TV and film like bigger projects, so I'm going
to need to learn how to work with it right
and like utilize it for the advantage of the projects right.
And a lot of people are scared that it's going
to replace them, but I think as a as a
culture and a society, people are gonna have to learn

(15:09):
how to work with it because it's here to stay.
It's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Well, it's just in time. This is what happens time
and time again, Like thinking about people riding horses up
to cars. Nobody want to jump to make that jump,
and then eventually it's like, okay, yeah, we're doing cars.
Then it's everything else along the way. It's just the
way that technology everything right, And it's exactly what you're saying.
It's like eventually people are gonna get on board because,
like you said, it's not going to go anywhere. But
it's how is it shifting society? How is it shifting

(15:34):
the workplace? How is it shifting? Are you know, like
what we're doing in this world? And you've either got
to get on board or not, you know. And then
but it's also figuring out like okay, all those menial
not menial, they're very important jobs, but like the lower
tier jobs that are going to be replaced by that,
Well what are those people going to do? You know,
and we have to figure out as a society how

(15:54):
to keep going with that, you know, cause it's gonna
it's already affecting tons of people, but it's also going
to be beneficial. Yeah, when people talk about AI, I've
like looked into a little bit of and we've actually
done an AI episode, like kind of researching a little
more the stuff they do in agriculture, you know, like
it can save ninety percent of water usage, you know,
and like right exactly where like you know, getting rid

(16:16):
of pesticides because they got little lasers that hyper focus
on the bugs and they just yeah, they kill all
the busy. Yeah, totally, it's pretty wild, you know. Like
so there's things like that where I think it'll be
beneficial for society, but then also as creators, it's kind
of like a little nerve racket, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, I think there will always be a need for
like human to human entertainment, right, like that human touch
or that human interaction. But we'll kind of see where
we go from here.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, we'll see where that where human touch can still
be had you know, in music or writing, the actual
like constructing of ideas. I've prompted chat GPT for comedy
sketch ideas. It hasn't been super fun. I kind of
want to do one for fun because they're super like
on the nose and there's no like, uh, you know,

(17:06):
an impront. Yeah, there's no nuance. There's no like metaphor
double entendre or things like that. But that's the extent
of how I've tried to work with it.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I've I've had a similar experience where, you know,
if I'm writing a comic or something, I'll be like,
what would this scene be? And it just doesn't It's
like not creative enough yet. Yeah, I think like maybe
one day they'll get there, but you can just kind.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Of tell we'll see how that how that goes.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
So you were mentioning the music part, by the way,
you started that like early, right, was that like the
eminem stuff was that inspired?

Speaker 4 (17:42):
So dude, it's funny U. So watching the Lonely Island
Guys inspired me and my buddy to make a couple
of comedy music tracks. They're still out there there. One
is called Walk of Shame and one is called bike
Path Love, and they're both like our very first ever
comedy videos that we ever made. Yeah, and I rapped

(18:04):
in both of them. He's a singer, he sang, and
that was so that was like the first kind of rapping.
I grew up with hip hop head so I've always
loved hip hop and rap in general.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
And even know why I'm here. You guys have so
much in common.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Right now, I'm out. So we uh. We did a
couple of comedy music videos and then the Eminem stuff
didn't happen until later. I think the first one I
did as Eminem was like seventeen or eighteen, twenty seventeenty eighteen.
But that was fun because I love him to me,
he's the greatest rapper of all time. Amazing, He's amazing.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I just saw this poll. I think he got voted
as the number one rapper of all time.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Well deserved yea.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, it was down to him and Tupaca. He'd be
in mount I think.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
M Yeah. So the doing doing all the rap stuff
with like with inspiration from the Lonely Island kind of
inspired me then to do more of it because it
worked well. And yeah, so then I did like Eminem,
I did logic, I did post alone, I haven't done
these guys in a while, But there was like a

(19:06):
chapter for me where I was doing a lot of
celebrity impressions and a lot of them were music based.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
The eminem Christmas one.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh yeah, like just ripping Christmas and how I was
like really impressed with the writing ability like I was,
And obviously a lot of other people were too, because
you know, a lot of views and all that, But like, dude,
that was really impressive.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Felt like a really solid rap within the genre of comedy.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Thanks, bro well d And that's how good of a
rapper eminem is is. If you're gonna do an impression
of him, you better you step off, you know, otherwise
everybody's going to trash you. So I really like tried.
I really like that. That wasn't just a half assed thing.
I've really rehearsed it, prepped it, like really tried to
find ways to deliver that were unique and interesting.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
And yeah, yeah it showed for sure.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Thanks. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
You said you want to go on the TV and
film like creating TV and film. Have you ever found
out or have you decided on what you want to
do in that space or do you have ideas already.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I do. I've written two features. Just
like everybody else in this town.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I've written three.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Oh it's all good.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, I don't worry about it.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Same bro, just like everybody else in this town.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah do.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
YouTube to me has always been like the a trampoline
to use, you know, and and it's worked. I got
on Wilding Out from YouTube. That's how Nick Cannon, he
saw the eminem impressions. So when I leveled up from
YouTube to being a cast member on that show, and
you know, everything in this business kind of feels like

(20:46):
steps on a never ending staircase, right, because there is
no real end goal. The end goal is you die.
There's no you know what I mean. Like everybody in
the creative space, I think it's just always working. And yeah,
we might have a goal of this of money, this
type of house, this type of project getting made, this
type of award or recognition, But once that happens, there's

(21:07):
always something else, right, So there's not really like an
end goal. As far as like the TV and film space,
there are a couple different goals along the spectrum. But yeah, man,
I came up with the Comedies of the two thousands,
and that like unfiltered, you know, kind of edgy. I

(21:27):
guess like today it would be considered edgy. Back then,
it was just called funny, you know. So I really
wanted and I think there's a there's a want for
that type of comedy again. I'm talking like fourty year
old Virgin knocked up the hangover super Bad. You know,
there hasn't been a kick ass high school movie since
super Bad, and that was seventeen years ago. He was

(21:49):
two thousand and seven. He came out the year before
I graduated high school or the year maybe it was
two thousand and eight. That's what year I graduate, and
so like that is.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Michael graduated in two thousand and two.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
That's what's up?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Are you me.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Both were today?

Speaker 4 (22:10):
I'm tripping out, but yeah, dude, that would be. You know,
that's what The YouTube videos and comedy videos on Instagram
super fun. Love doing them. They bring me a huge
sense of fulfillment and like I get to flex creatively.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
But I'm just thinking I would laugh so freaking hard
if you just researched the out of Will.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
And pat him more throughout the show. My mom's name
is Carol, my dad.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
What I was about to say that. I was about
to say that it's Christy though, so I was going
to say my mom's name is Chris. And then stand
up plays a big part in all this too, of course, right,
and then turning stand up like what I've been really
wanting to do is like taking clips of the podcas

(23:00):
cast and then doing like animated oh dope of them right, yeah,
spirit airlines bit, Yeah, where it's like spirit Airlines.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
We'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
I was like dying in that part of me today,
was really hoping you're going to show up as an alien. Dude.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, that's fun, dude. It takes three hours in the
makeup chair.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
You're joking.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think I was like, is he like really going
for the So that's all practical.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's all, it's all practical. It's three hours in the
makeup chair. It's a couple hundred bucks for the makeup
artists for the day, and then it's another couple hundred
bucks for all the supplies and the and the materials,
and then it's now an hour to take off at
the end of the day. So every time we shoot,
there's already four hours blocks off just for makeup.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, so you're like I better have like what I'm
going to say, like locked in.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah. So yeah, my buddy that I do those videos with,
Blake Webber, was super funny guy, Big golf Guy. Actually yeah,
Big Golf Guy has a cool golf podcast. Oh cool,
it's called country Club Adjacent shout Out. You owe Me Money?
And so he and I do those alien videos all
the time, and we always structure out like a full
shoot ay full full full shoot ay, so we know

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actually too much so that we know we're getting you know,
full value out of time and the money it takes.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, but it's super fun. Yeah, you know, it's hilarious
run around as aliens. The last one we did, we
ran into grocery stores. We're out on the promenade, like
we went into the Lulu Lemon shop. We're feeling the
clothes like are these like galactic friendly? You know. So
it's yeah, it's a good time.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
That's awesome. Yeah man.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
But so so that to answer your previous question, that
type of thing is like the type of project that
I would love to evolve into a bigger project, you know,
like a movie that's you know, imagine a mock doc
about these two alien guys who just showed up on
Earth and now they're trying to learn Earth culture. Don't
fucking steal that, Hollywood. But so that's like.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Talking about the makeup chair and all that. That's what
Sora would do is you wouldn't You would just be you,
and then then the AI would would and.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
It would make it look legit. Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's not like what I've seen is it's not all
the way there yet, but then it's just touch up
in post whoa yeah, but it's like you look literally
exactly and.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
So is literally like ready, Like they're my thing is
I think they're not. I don't think they're going to
release it before the election.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Oh, because it will just create ship. Yeah yeah, I
hope they do that. I hope they do this year.
Like oh yeah, yeah, we would.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, but that's kind of my because they've been asked
about it and they're like, yeah, we you know, probably
need more like safeguards on Twitter and Facebook and.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Oh sure, sure, damn it's that good.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Well, if it's not being used in this election, will
be used in the next. Oh, at some point it'll
be like you can't tell the difference between real life
and AI.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
That's why they'll have to be like a little thing
on the bottom of the video.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
You know, like a watermark type thing, or maybe there's
like a digital code, like you know, what does crypto have?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
What is it called the blockchain? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:07):
The blockchain thing? It has? What was that thing?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Like an imprint like a bottommark, Like.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, there's but there's a term for it. I feel
like an idiot because like an NF, each NFT has
its own unique what is that its own unique.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'm texting my girl over here.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
I feel like, yes, kind of like it's any Anyways,
every NFT has its own unique like code of numbers
that's associated with the NFT, right, so you can look
it up. So maybe like something like that will have
I have no fucking idea.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Dude, in the Rogan thing where you're like Jamie like up, dude, Jamie,
he like hits the button like that.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yeah, yeah, uh close, close. We're still in that space.
We're still there somewhere.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
We'll get there. Yeah, it'll hit us in like twenty
minutes when the podcast yeah over, Yeah, yeah, it might
be Oh man, have you had any I mean obviously
wild now it's amazing. But have you had any other
experiences or opportunities in this industry that you're like, holy crap,
that that was. Yeah, it kind of took you by surprise.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah, dude, I Wild and Out was really cool. You
know what's really exciting is when a video gets noticed
by somebody that you kind of look up to, like
that Huberman one. He liked it and commented on it,
which was super cool, and then I had the opportunity
to meet him. So that's that's a moment.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
There's this organization I work with called vets v et
S stands for Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions. They send veterans
with PTSD overseas for psychedelic therapy and it's really dope
because they can't you can't do that in the US
because we've created a corrupt system and whatever. But this
organization funds trips for veterans and they have an annual

(27:59):
gala to raise and he was the keynote speaker and
they asked if I would m see the event. So
I got to m see the event and I've roasted
him on stage and how he came up and gave
his keynote and we met super cool guy. So that's
like a really amazing that speaks to like the power
that social media can have to connect you with people,

(28:21):
you know, because you don't really need to rely on
the old industry model of being like united with the
sword by the president of Rodeo Drive in.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Order to do whatever the gatekeeper.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, and there's no more gate there's a lot less
gate keeping there. You can build your own gate and
keep it.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
And we're seeing it across like multiple industries. Like I've
watched a lot of like archaeological things, and you have
people like in Turkey at a dig site communicating with
Americans or something, having like theories on it or presenting
more evidence, and like there's so many different like benefits
of having everyone connected like that.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But speaking of that, like the psychedelic treatment stuff. My
one of my buddies did like a ketamine therapy and
it literally changed his life and he like swears by it. Yeah,
but he's also like believes in psilocidemin and you know,
everything that mushrooms can do. It's like mushrooms gave us penicillint, yeah,

(29:22):
which like totally advanced humanity in the twentieth century. And
you know or was it eighteen hundreds or nineteen hundred
next night? Yeah, but like, why aren't we exploring that more?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Right?

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Dun do? So do you guys know who Paul Stammets is.
I've heard the name is the last name S T
A M E. T. S. He just did another episode
on Rogan So is he.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Where the mushroom hat he does?

Speaker 4 (29:50):
He's the mushroom hack.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, oh okay, So this.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Dude for years has been like the mushroom guy and
he's done like incredible, incredible research into the power of
the healing powers of like Lion's main to help with
the cognitive function and reverse Alzheimer's slowly, slowly but surely.
Also like turkey tail and how turkey tail mushrooms can

(30:13):
really help your gut and can help potentially help combat
different viruses like COVID and other things. And it's it's amazing, dude.
And and psilocybin is in that same path for me.
I've I've been microdosing with psilocybin and working with that
plant for about eight years and it's been a huge

(30:35):
part for me of like it's helped me with manage stress, anxiety,
It's helped me navigate low moments in a better way.
It's helped me creatively just approach creative projects that I'm
working on, or handle problems with a different like creative approach.
Just critical thinking sometimes can be creative. It really helps

(30:59):
you kind of like, well, me, it helps me break
habitual ways of thinking in order to allow like new
ways of thinking to come in. And that might sound
a little vague and hippie dippy, but if you try it,
you know, and I just encourage people to learn about
it and research about it. It's it's really really powerful
when done with intention and correctly.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, I could definitely see the creativity part.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I had some buddies who were vets and they were
talking about microdosing as a form to like help you're
exactly what you're saying with that's too, but help with
the PTSD and a lot of the trauma that comes
with all that stuff. But is it to my understanding
it like there's ways that it like heals or connects
pathways in your brain or something like that when you're
on it that we don't have without that or something

(31:47):
that those lines.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yeah, And I'm definitely not the person to be like
giving the breakdown of this. For sure, you're about to
get an answer that's very similarly phrased because I'm a
fucking idiot. But Huberman does a great podcast about this.
There's a ton of studies and really easy to watch
YouTube clips on neural plasticity. Yeah, which is just the

(32:12):
new There's a there's actually one really cool graphic out
there that shows a map of your neural pathways before
psychedelics and after psychedelics. I forget what exactly the study was.
It might have been like before taking psilocybin, and then
the person took psilocybin, waited a couple of days or
a couple of weeks, and then they mapped the brain after.

(32:34):
I forget what it was, and I'm not totally sure,
but yeah, it's a circle with a couple of lines
going and intersecting in the A image image A and
that shows your neural pathways prior and then the second
image after working with the medicine. There are like ten
times the amount of lines and connections in that circle.

(32:57):
And it's just a way to map the neural It's
not a map of your brain. It's just like a
visual representation of your neural pathways and neural connections. It
helps you learn, dude, It's nuts. It's crazy, it really
really it can help you learn, It can help you
integrate information better and have For me again, it's really

(33:20):
helps me approach different stressors and sources of anxiety in
a different way and really think and meditate on why
I'm feeling down in low moments, because in this business,
there's highs and lows, right, It's all highs and lows.
It's going to be a roller coaster to the day
we die. And the better you can navigate those low moments,
the more high moments you're gonna have, and the longer

(33:42):
the high moments will last. But you're always gonna have
low moments, right, So that's what it's really.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Helping me to And I love that explanation too. It's like,
obviously we're not doctors, but we always encourage like independent thinking,
independent research, and like hopefully we can at least prompt
people out there listening to go check it out for themselves,
you know, yeah, just if they're interested, right dude.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah, it's because just like AI psychedelics are not going anywhere,
it's been a long time coming that a lot of
these medicines and substances need to be treated with like reverence,
respect and acceptance as being just as good, if not
better than a lot of the medicines put out by
big pharma. So like the MAPS organizations, you know them
at MAPS, they're at the forefront of pushing MDMA through

(34:26):
the FDA process to get it legalized for therapy. So
MDMA therapy is a very real thing, first and foremost
with veterans and trauma survivors, but then after that potentially
for folks like us, for people who maybe are more
inclined to do a therapy session with an MDMA licensed

(34:47):
therapist than they are with a regular therapist or whatever.
It's just another addition to trying to reduce the overall
trauma of the world. So there's a lot of really
good work going on in that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I've heard theories that well at you said that like
mushrooms over the existence of humans have also evolved together
right over time. Yeah, is that correct? And then the
theory that I heard is that potentially if we if
we we did evolve from monkeys, that it was because
of mushrooms essentially. That's one it's interesting to think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(35:20):
because you're saying it. You know, it improves cognitive function
and connectors in the brain. So if it just makes
you more intelligent, I'm curious in history some of the
greatest you know, inventors or ideas like did fire come
from somebody hitting a little bit? Like we're how to
make it work? You know?

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, the wheel tripping.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, found a cannabis planting, Like, how do we smoke this?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
We need fire?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Well, that's what dude. And that's what's also crazy is
a lot of these different like natural plant medicines. How
do people find them? You know, like a lot of
and a lot of them come from indigenous tribes and
indigenous areas and you know, like Aauaska dude, Like, how
did somebody figure out how these two plants go together
perfectly to make you see? God? That's nuts? And there's

(36:04):
so many different plants like that.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Where does ayausca come from? Like what's the origin?

Speaker 4 (36:08):
It's uh, it's indigenous to South America. I think Peru.
Different tribes started using it down there. Don't quote me
on that, definitely look it up. But it's two plants.
There's the ayahuasca vine and then the chakaruna leaf and
the chakruna leaf produces d MT, which your brain actually

(36:31):
naturally produces, but we don't know why. Apparently, however, you can't.
You don't experience the DMT because we have a naturally
occurring chemical that inhibits us from experiencing.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
The d MT without taking it, is what you mean?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, so that's just in your brain, like before the
plants even come into your space, your brain produces d MT.
I think you might experience it when you sleep. I
have no idea, maybe, and like dream when you die.
I definitely activate when you die, right, yeah, when you die. Yeah,
But but you don't experience it day to day because
you have you have something that stops you from experiencing it.

(37:08):
So the leaf produces d MT. The vine, the ayahuasca
vine has an MAO inhibitor in it. I forget what
MAO stands for. But the inhibitor shuts down the block
in your body so that you do experience the d MT.
So when they get mixed, they get the vine, they

(37:29):
get the leaf, they chop them together, they boil it down.
That creates aauasca and then when you drink it, the
the inhibitor from the vine allows the d MT from
the leaf to be fully experienced by you and your brain.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, So is there is there a way that you
could like take too much of it or does that
just put.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Your Yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
With people that like, yeah, what I've heard essentially is
like it's a very curated experience.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah, And you know, it's It's funny, dude. Ayahuasca
has become like such a talking point in culture today,
and it's it's a lot of people like glorify it.
A lot of people try to pretend like they know
all because they've done it once. You know, these spiritual people,
they're like, I meditated three times. I can tell you
all about ayahuasca a video for you. Yeah, exactly, I've

(38:24):
done plenty. Trust me.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I've met a lot of people out here that are
that they call themselves the healer, right, they've done but
they're really just like narcissists in disguise.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people try
to co opt that type of work as their own
and in a really like toxic way. And so I
have a very deep level Yeah, because you have to
have a level of respect for the space and you

(38:54):
you should. I encourage anybody who's going to talk about
this or learn about it to really look at like
where it comes from. Look at like learn about the
Shappobo people and the indigenous tribes that these medicines come from,
and the reverence that they had for it. Yeah, and
the use that they had for it, because it's really
beautiful and it's fucking magic, dude. It's crazy shit the
practices that a lot of these folks had hundreds or

(39:16):
thousands of years ago that have evolved now to you know,
some white dude hosting events in his apartment in Tapanga.
But when it's done right, with the right container and
the right respect and the right approach, it can really
yield some incredible results. That's why a lot of veterans
with PTSD reverse a lot of their issues and go

(39:39):
from being absolutely suicidal to back to normal after like
one or two sessions. Sometimes it's fucking incredible, dude. Yeah,
So it's so much more than just like your typical
New age chick named Solstice who lives in Venice. You know,
it's a lot more than that.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Damn I got scammed.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, No, I totally, I totally agree. I kind of
look at all that in a similar world, right, like
the study of mushrooms, ayahuasca, all the healing properties. I
think nature has like every answer basically that we need.
We've just only discovered point zero zero one percent of nature. Yeah,

(40:18):
like even you know, the Amazonian rainfores rainforest, they're like
the bottom of the ocean.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
We just know so little, we.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Know so little.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, but you feel you.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Know, yeah, I just would encourage humans to keep moving
in that direction and like looking in nature for the answers.
I read this National Geographic article a long time ago,
and like there there was a DNA property of like
a gila monster or heal a monster spelled gila, where
it helps diabetes because the lizard will like store fat

(40:56):
for extended periods of time because they're wandering through the
desert in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
And it now.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
It's like a really good diabetes medication that came from
the lizard. And yeah, the article is like we literally
only have studied point zero zero zero one percent of animals,
right yeah, yeah, and you know that's just animals, Like
that's not even plants.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, anyway, well on that point too, you know, I think,
I mean, you can The easiest comparison is going to
be the Pyramids, right, Think about how much we've unlearned
over time, right, And then you mix in greed and
you mentioned big farmer, right, and all these other people
want to profit off so many different things. How much
are we losing of what we were naturally connected to?

(41:39):
I think, like, you know, how what was it coupled out?
Like not even two thousand years ago, a thousand years ago,
probably five hundred years ago, we didn't even have waste,
you know, yeah, yeah, look at look at us now.
Everything's worried about straws destroying the planet, you know, And
it's like, are we going backwards or forwards right now
like we're doing Are we doing it simultaneously?

Speaker 3 (41:56):
You know?

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yeah? Very I think we've been going in my opinion,
we've been going back words for a long time. But
there does seem to be a really amazing like conscious
movement forward in terms of planetary wellness and personal wellness.
That's why you see people walking around barefoot sometimes, you know,
connecting to the ground. Have you been to Austin, Texas recently?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Not recently?

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Is everyone barefoot?

Speaker 4 (42:17):
The amount of barefoot people in Austin, Texas will make
you feel like you're living in the Flintstones, Bros. It's nuts,
and they're not like they're not like barefoot just in dirt.
The people in Austin are barefoot and parking lots, they're
barefoot in restaurants. You'll see barefeet everywhere. But the bottom
of their feet are like leather, so they can do it.

(42:37):
But yeah, that's the Austin force. Ones are just like
barefoot reviewers.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Dude of the Californian moving to Texas. I love that
video and like the Portland guy comes in and you
both start laughing at the Portland.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah dude, And and Texas people are like that, bro.
But that's like so anyways, the barefoot people, I say
just as part of the kind of the movement toward
personal health, because when you put your bare feet on
the earth, that you get really cool, you know moment, Yeah,
you get charge and you also it's just nice to reconnect.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
With any ground.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
My golf barefoot a lot.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, that's awesome. That's my first time on our golf
was barefoot actually in Carbo. Yeah yeah, but yeah, no,
it's it's when you really break it down like you said, barefoot, right,
we're all wearing shoes. We've now moved indoors. We're hiding
from the sun. Right, we're not connecting with drinking not
maybe not the best water we're doing. There's all these
factors that come into place with our health that we've

(43:35):
gone backwards with for how we were naturally designed right
to connect. We come from the earth, right, we are
made from this. It's there's a reason people feel good
when they're connecting out there. Like you want to go
camping or dude, I used to surf every single day
growing up. I had leather feet, man, I walked on
glass and it wouldn't cut my feet. It was crazy.
It was crazy. But that feeling of being in the ocean,

(43:55):
the salt water and just connecting that way like it
was it was bliss me. It was heavy. Yeah, And
it's the same reason, like you know, you see my
trailer and truck. We've gone camping multiple times. I love that. Man,
I don't wear shoes for a week out there.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Awesome, you know. Yeah, that's dope, dude. I think more
people should do that.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, dude, I I jumped in the Dead Sea when
we were cool and like in that area and like
the healing properties of that sea right there. There's no
living creatures in it because it's so mineral rich, right,
and like you get out of it and just feel
like you're covered in oil.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Really, oh my god, it's you feel like you float
in it too, right, Yeah, yeah, you float. And it
was with my dad and my brother and like it
was crazy. But it's essentially like an ocean, just more
nutrient rich and more you know, but essentially bringing that
up to say, healing properties of the ocean. Yeah, you know,

(44:52):
like there's physical minerals in there that actually are healthy
for you.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
It's awesome, man. Yeah, I'm curious to see where this
all goes, you know, because it's obviously, like you said,
there's a big shift happening right now. But and we
need it. You know, so many people are depressed. I
grew up with depression personally, you know, like anxiety ridden,
and it's only getting worse and worse.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Yeah, it's like we're surrounded by poison, dude.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Everywhere.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
We just have poison's poison everywhere you look. There's in
your in the food system and the environment. Uh, in
the media and entertainment and there's just like negative energy
and all these different they're like processed foods, you know, violence,
and some people think porn is like the worst thing
in the world and all the anyway, all these things,

(45:35):
but they're they're now with like the independent health movement
and people try to take back control of like their
own health and who they are. Just it feels like
we're starting to even the balance a little bit, which
is nice. Yeah, the more dick jokes I can do
on YouTube videos, the better.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
So I take that independent media is playing a part
in that, you know totally, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Well shoot, man, so have you obviously I would. I
would say it's obvious, But I'm just gonna ask it.
Have you done ayahuasca and what was that experience? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah, yeah, uh I have. First time was a little
over a year ago. Second time was actually and that
was a couple of ceremonies and then a couple other
ceremonies this past year. It's intense, dude, It's very intense.
It's uh, you know, it's not something I just recommend
people do, because that I think it'd be irresponsible to

(46:26):
just blindly recommend it. But I do recommend everybody learn
about it because there's a whole lot to learn. Uh,
And it's just like a really deeply individual experience. It's
totally it's not like you hit up your boys like, yeah,
what are you doing tonight? Get a handle ayawasha, dude,
meet me at the spot. You know we're gonna kick
it in.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
La long enough. People say you gotta wait for it
to call to you or something.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yeah, and that's that's also very much a theme. You know,
if if it, if it continues to cross your path
and and you do feel a sense of curiosity about it,
then may be it is something that is aligned for you.
I have no idea, but yeah, for me, it was
for me. To me, it's it's a tool. It's it's not,

(47:09):
you know, something to worse. I don't worship it. I
don't hold it on a high pedestal. I don't. But
I do have like a deep sense of respect for
how powerful it is and the the help and healing
that it's given a lot of people, really starting with veterans. Dude,
because of veterans do some shit that helps them. I'm
so on board, Like that's that's the group of badass

(47:29):
motherfuckers that everybody in the world should be supporting. Yeah,
and and the lack of support that they've gotten from
the government and everything, and the amount of positive support
that they've gotten from psychedelics and plant medicines is enough
for me to that that was like a huge catalyst
for me to start experimenting with different substances in a
within in an intention behind it, instead of just like

(47:52):
popping a pill at a party.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Yeah, no, that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I'm like, I think I would probably eventually try it,
but I'm like, I'm really I really don't like throwing up.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
I don't like puking. Yeah, and I know that it's
like a bitch thing to say, but.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
A part of it, for sure. I haven't vomited yet.
Oh yeah, and not everybody does. It's definitely a lot
of people do. But it depends on your body, depends
on what you've eaten recently. There's a whole diet you
do leading up to the ceremonies that's pretty important.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Maybe if I did it on like an empty stomach,
I wouldn't have to.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Yeah, some people do empty stomach, but it's intense. It's intense.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, I would imagine empty. Someone would probably make it
more intense. Yeah right, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, dude, it's a it's an
intense space. But you guys are spiritual. You have a
bunch of crystals.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Course, is this yours?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:46):
That was the gift. I think it's corpse and quartz
and uh the city, yeah, dragon glass. We call it
Jamma Thrones.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Some spiritual bros out here, dude.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, dude, I got this uh Indian.
I was at this reservation and they had uh. I
did this motorcycle trip from LA up to Washington and
back through like the Redwoods, and man, it was beautiful.
But there was this Indian reservation and within there they
had this shop. You can go in there, and I
like thought I was getting I was getting a little momento.
And I was in there and there's this Indian kid

(49:25):
working there, and man, you could tell he just didn't
like Americans. Man, he didn't like, he didn't like. I
don't think he liked me. And I was like trying
to be supportive to buy something for the or whatever.
They had a museum in there and everything, and I
was ironically riding an Indian motorcycle. Well, I bought this
obsidian knife with an antler attached to it right from
this kid. I don't know what the hell happened when

(49:48):
that and that thing, Like I lived in my house
at the time for three years, maybe three and a
half years at the time. On the ride back my
my motorcycle shut down like thirty times one hundred. My
I was an hour on the freeway. Yes, I was speeding,
and it just turns off completely, and I'm like, I
don't know if I had anything to do with this, right,
we could have just been total fluke. But when I
finally got home and I and I put that thing,

(50:10):
I just put it on my fridge for a little while.
It was the first time I ever felt like somebody
was watching me in my home. I like turn around,
like think that there's someone there. And so I literally
ended up like I remember, like sage the thing. And
then I got rid of it and I'm like, all right,
we're back to It was wild where this was. Uh,

(50:31):
it was in the avenue with the giants. It was
very it was close up there, Northern California. Northern California. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was amazing, Like the place was absolutely beautiful. I'm
so glad I got through that ride. But and I
don't know if there's anything attached to that thing, but
I did have a moment there where I was like,
so something feels weird. It definitely feels weird. Yeah, yeah,
So I don't know why I told that.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
But dude, because energy, dude, Energy is real, dude. I mean, look,
you could talk some people like we'll scoff or turn
up their noses when you talk about like different energy
or like vibes or whatever, but just shit's real, dude.
You can manifest some shit into existence than other people
do the same, for better or for worse.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I never thought i'd see the day of Tucker Carlson
talking about dimensions on Joe Rogan.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
But was that nuts? Yeah? Yeah, he's talking about being
like what crazy? What do you guys think about aliens?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Are they here?

Speaker 1 (51:21):
They?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I think they gotta be.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
It's like, yeah, I do find the theory in my
zombie comic book with me and Penny in the Zombie Apocalypse,
the alien I created in it, it's zombies and naily basic,
but the alien I created is from an ancient civilization,

(51:44):
and it was like, can transcend dimensions.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
So he's like, I'm from Earth. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (51:51):
So like that was my lord that I went with.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
It's like they've been here, maybe even like merged with
humans in some way. But like I thought that was
like an interesting theory proposed. But if they did come
from somewhere else or whatever, people have died like veterans,
which is really sad, from like contact with things we

(52:16):
don't know about. So like that's what I try to
focus on, is like the real data.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yeah, and the data about the data about crafts moving
at speeds and in directions and ways that humans can't do.
That's just nuts, dude. I'm so into alien stuff, dude. Yeah,
I just wish they would just show up. Sick of
the secret like showing up and nobody can see them
or you can't catch them on film. I want to
see an alien, like fucking another alien in Hollywood, which

(52:43):
I guess technically you can see every day, but like
the real aliens, you know, exactly like real ones.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, I mean it's fascinating. I'm super into all that.
I try to keep up with all the news.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
And yeah, I mean there's no way we're alone.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
No, there's no if they're going to show up, I
think this would be the year.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Oh yeah, righto November guys doing Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
I had this buddy growing up. I was like fifteen skater,
little stoner skater dude, like yeah, we all were. And
he was very big into conspiracy theories and I loved
it too, man, I was like I was all about it.
I remember We've been friends for years at this point,
and I remember I came over his house one night
and he was just looking at me like I was
a ghost. I'm like, bro, what's going on? Like what
are you? Everything good?

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
And then he pulls out this book. He had this
huge book, and I know his ass just got high
and was reading this thing and he goes, I think
you're a Nordic alien. And I'm like, what are you
talking about? So I look it up and it's uh
And even at this point I was like fifteen or sixteen,
it's there pleading. There's there's something they're supposed to come

(53:52):
down to, like help earthlings or something like yeah, people
were but they're like six or seven feet tall, pale skin,
blonde hair, blue eyes, like must or whatever like it
like described me very much, and I swear after I
left his house I day, he didn't talk to me
for over a year. No way, I swear on my
talk to him since I've talked to him since. But

(54:12):
I should should have done.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Some AI thing that like made your eyes blink sideways
and the video Happy Birthday, Bro, and then your mouth
just starts glowing.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Just lizard tongue. That would be amazing. Yeah, that was
my my little alien experience. I wish, Bro, I wish
I was an alien.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah, I just want to see one, dude, I've never
seen a UFO. I got friends with some crazy UFO stories.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Really, yeah, man, I've seen him.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
You have what was it? What's yours?

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Oh yeah, here we go.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
It was actually in Hollywood, really yeah, okay, sure it
wasn't just me and my blue makeup I was. I
didn't see an alien. I saw a UFO. And I've
told this story to a few friends. I don't think
I've ever told on the podcast before. So the place
I had was on the top floor labryon Hollywood. There

(55:03):
was this apartment complex over there, and I'm sitting just
looking out over the city. Its unobstructed view of the city.
It was beautiful and I remember looking over I'm just
sitting there, probably sitd there for like an hour at
this point. I don't remember what I was doing, but
obviously I wasn't very busy, and I looked over towards
the Santa Monica area and I see this thing flying
towards the city I'm in, like Hollywood area was Hollywood,

(55:27):
and it starts flying over and I'm like, oh, is
that a helicopter? Like what is that? You know? I
kept looking at it was moving so smooth, it was insane,
and it just kept flying closer and closer to where
I was at, Like and again, I don't think it
was flying towards me, but it was coming in my
direction and it gets close and then by the time
I had to be I don't know, probably five hundred

(55:49):
yards away at this point, it stops. It was a disc.
It had like five big lights on it. A floating disc,
I'm not even kidding, stops and then reverses back the
other way. There's it was. I couldn't even explain. It
had no noise.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
It was a drone. No noise.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
No, it wasn't a drone one hundred percent wasn't It
had no noise. It was no noise, floating, nothing, And
I'm sitting here, like, how are people not freaking out?
Am I the only person that can see this right now?
Like I I was. I couldn't understand it. And it
flew back. And then as it got closer to Santa
Monica and there there was these two tall buildings. Uh,
it went right in between them. It didn't fly in

(56:25):
between them, but it's it from my view, went right
between it. And as soon as it went in the middle,
which there was nothing obstructing it, it just disappeared. Who yeah,
what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (56:36):
That's insane?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
It was wild?

Speaker 4 (56:37):
And did did anybody else see it? With you?

Speaker 1 (56:40):
No? I was alone alone, Okay, so I could be
making this up completely.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Were you on your roof or any place?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I had a balcony, So I was sitting on the
balcony and I'm sitting here, mind blown, freaking out, completely sober.
We didn't drink, didn't Yeah, I don't do drugs anyway.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
And then one of the weirdest things I think next
happened like three days later. There was a rooftop of
this building much lower than the one I was on.
Three days later, this massive explosion happens like a transformer
head blown. I'm like, what the hell was that, you know,
And I go out and I look and I see
I see the electricity like still going off, and I'm

(57:22):
not even joking, like I think I was losing my
mind at this point or something like that. Yeah, it's
this massive, energetic like it looked like a tran like
you know when a transformer goes up, but it losing
like it was like that. A dude walks out of it,
stands there, looks around, and then walks back in. And
I'm not even joking. It sounded like a bomb and

(57:43):
then closed and it went away or whatever. It sounded
like a bomb went off, and not a single cop car,
not a single siren, not a single anything came to
go check it out. And I'm like, that pretty much
was an explosion.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
And then it wasn't a transformer. It was like a
transformer explosion.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
It was like and it just stayed there for probably
about twenty seconds, and the guy walked out, and the guy.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Walked on the on the ground next to like a sidewalk.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
It was on the roof of a building, on the
roof of a building.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Holy phone.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, weird.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Dude, what there's some weird ship out there too. There's
some weird shit especially.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
It could have been a million different things, right, but
I mean from my experience, it was.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
No cameras around, no cranes, no ads, yelling at people
on a megaphone.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Nothing. This is some real Not a single person or
stopped or not a car stopped. Not a single like
I couldn't. I couldn't explain how like something didn't come
out of that, A cop didn't show up, you know, like, yeah,
it was nuts, that's insane.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, that's the crazy part too, is like that Tucker
when he was talking about it on Rogan, Joe's like,
why don't we have like Crystal HD clear footage, And
Tucker's like, well they do, they're just not showing.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Us sure, the clear one you know.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Yeah yeah yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Like, oh that kind of makes sense. The military fighter
jet has a better camera than like that black and
white thing that we see.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Essentially, Yeah, what is area fifty one? There's gonna be something.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
And what what what is like the next step past
area fifty one? There's an area of question mark. We
don't even know what it is, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, there's area one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
In my comic fifty three three, Area sixty nine is crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
That's the one we gotta go to.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Yeah, that would be a party.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
That's where you get to see aliens.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yeah wo man, wow, yeah dude, Well it'll it'll happen. Yeah,
hopefully it happens before Sora comes out and we'll never know.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Yeah right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
People are going to grow up with video that they
just think is real.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
That's crazy, man, it's crazy. I'm not getting my kids
a phone for a long time. Yeah, the day I
have kids.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
But yeah, it's gonna be mild.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I don't think my little brother is, like, I don't
know if he has one yet. Yeah, I'm trying to
here's an iPad, but like that's heavily regulating.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
Yeah. I had my first phone when I was thirteen.
You can only text or calls back in those it
was like the brick, you remember the Nokia brick. I
had the brick and my mom got me this like
basketball case for it. I thought it was the coolest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
So dope.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
You could press the actual buttons it had like a keypad,
got the high score and snake you remember sucking Snake
The snake was like the original entertainment for kids. There
was no TikTok YouTube. There were just like black pixels
moving on a gray screen and you had to press up, down,
left and right and there was no more entertaining thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
I love snakes and you couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
It just went on.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
You could went up forever until that Your snake was
like massive, big yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, snak was dope.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Tommchi's Tom Gotchi's were fun POGs with had some cool ship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
I see those on Instagram every now and again someone
will like post something.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Yeah, like a nineties throwback then, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Or like all the little things that they used to do.
I'm like, how did we all do the same thing?
What is going on right now?

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
We all had book fairs and bookmarks and the book.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Yeah, man, you were excited. You were to like get
get a book like a Captain Underpants or something. You know.
I was get fired up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Ninja Turtles?

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Hm yeah, hell yeah? Which was your favorite of the
Ninja turtles? Michael Angelo okay, yeah, John Donald Tello was cool.
Michaelangelo was the like hyper dude, right, wasn't he the
chill bro I like the purple one with the No,
that was Leonardo. Leonardo was my boy. Yeah, yeah, it
was great.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Did you like did you see that new seth Rogan One?

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
No, but I really want to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I heard it's dope, It's it's interesting, it's interesting. Yeah,
I thought, Yeah, dude, did you guys see Roadhouse?

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
How dope is Roadhouse?

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Roadhouse is like the most BROI movie. Yeah, I love it.
It was so cool. I watched it last night.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
It was so Yeah, I watched it. H did I
watch the last two nights ago?

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
All the fight scenes are like just long takes, looks
super real, a beast you can act, but total what's no? No,
he got jacks for that ship redded.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah, but like he I don't think I've seen a
bad performance from him. No, he's He's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Les. I told this story like not telling my first
experience in uh in l A. I I showed up
to this like house party or whatever. There's only like
six people there. I'm still friends with everybody to this day.
And it was my first time meeting my buddy Victor
Tez and I love this dude. He had just finished

(01:02:40):
doing this movie. But I remember I was sitting there
with him. And he's you know, I love this guy
to death, and he's got crazy energy and he's just
like probably a little bit of a d D you know,
incredible boxer. But he goes, he's like, man, you look
like you look like my friend. And I'm like, okay,
I hear that people compare me to some people all
the time. And he's skinnier at the time too, but

(01:03:01):
he he uh, He's like, yeah, man, it's crazy. Look
you look. I'm gonna call him, you know, and he
picks it, takes his phone and face times him and
the dude who picks up his fucking Jake Jillenhall dude.
And I'm like what And I just got to l
a bro like I'm trying to be an actor, never
had any experience yet on here, Like what the fuck?
And then and Victor goes, hey, Jake, he looks like you,

(01:03:22):
but he's like bigger, buffer and better looking, and I'm like, oh,
you ruined it. And then he fucking was so cool, bro.
He just laughed at it, you know, like everything like that.
But and I've never met him, but.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
U yeah, like Dolph Lunger and yeah, I with Dolphin.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Jake A couple less steaks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, he's starting and put me on an
island for a little no food. Yeah no, And I
definitely when I was younger, but yeah, that's just Jake's
a fucking legend. Yeah. But Roadhouse was sick our buddy Garrett.
We had Garrett Warren on that. He did all the
second unit directing for it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
That's so cool, incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Yeah, the stunts were post Malone was probably doing all
his own stunts in it too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Yeah, he nailed it. I thought he was good, crushed
it cool. Yeah, and then uh yeah, dude, just even
the boats flying and all the crazy stuff going.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
It was such a cool, like movie, dude. It was
such a cool movie. And movies are like so back.
I think you you're a producer right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm selling my second feature right now,
and then I'm developing it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
Oh nice, like you're in distribution mode on it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Cool cool. And yeah, so you know, there was a
period where it was like nobody was going to the theater.
This is pre Top Gun. I think Top Gun was
like the biggest maverick or maverick.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Yeah, yeah, four Times was so good. And since Top
Gun came out, people were growing to the movies again.
People are excited to watch movies. Movies have more buzz,
people are talking about them more. But what I think
is missing is comedy. I think comedy is missing from
the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
So I'm gonna talk to you offline about that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yeah, have a cool What What do you got coming up?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
What do you got?

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
So I'm on tour throughout the year. My touring schedule
is just sporadic. I'm out and about everywhere. I got
shows in Escondido, California, down by San Diego at the
end of April. May. First I'm in San Francisco, and
second through fourth of May, I'm in Sacramento, and then
my fifth San Jose, California, and then a bunch of
places after that and then Yeah, man videos every week

(01:05:33):
at Brent Pella shows or Brentpella dot Com. Special just
came out, But really trying to push some of these
bigger projects through, you know, and build a following up.
Maybe I need to put my hair in a man
bun to do it, but I'll figure out a way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
But yeah, dude, it's a good time. Man, It's it's
we're we're having fun. Trying to make the dream happen,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Hell yeah, yeah, you just got to keep chipping away
at it, man, same thing like you said, being a PA,
you know, and just editing your videos on the side,
just part of the hustle. Yeah, just like exactly what
you said, there's no one way to do. I'm trying
to figure it out. Will's figuring it out. Was a
little more figured out than me. But but no, it's
literally like even when you said the wild now right,
it's like it's just another step. But it's not necessarily

(01:06:18):
a linear step, right, But it's for me, it's always
been how do you leverage that? Yeah, what can you
do with that now? Right? That will open up another
opportunity and just keep doing it more podcasts. You know,
maybe someone's listening is like, that guy's freaking hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Le's let's go give him a bunch of money.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
You've got to put yourself out there, got to show up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
We'll put all that in the description and school to hell. Yeah,
so out there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Appreciate your brother.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Appreciate you guys man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Thank you for coming long, Lonch Twin, thanks for tuning
in to Studio twenty two.