May 13, 2024 • 42 mins
Episode 324 - "The Baller Alert Show" Feat: Ferrari Simmons & You Know BT Produced by: Octavia March
Topics include: JD & USHER Celebrate 20 Years Of Confessions, Let It Burn Really About Chilli & Other Untold Stories.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Word with me here you know, BT know how it goes,
shout out oct no real color what we see whole game?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wait the butler buck something.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh you can't stand on their own, Susie.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I already know you can't bold with me because up
with the squad of me, they get at that.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
They called me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Love by love.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
By love.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Bowler Lord looking to the bowler shown live from a
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
I go by the name of Ferrari Simmons.
Speaker 6 (00:29):
I go to that you know btt what that Jamaic
dupri and the Bill Day.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So listen, man, I grew up. I wanted to be
like you for real.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
For I feel like you were the first representation of
an African American person in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That I saw.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I said, Oh he gets he lets me feel like
I can do that too, So I did a part
of Ferrari Simmons has a little bit of jd in.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
But now now that I got that part of the way.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
Hold on, let me piggyback off that I was too.
I think you know you impacted my life too because
you was lit like I came in. I started to
learn about you. Money and a thing with jay Z
I think that was my first introduction to you, and
then you had the bow wow and all that stuff.
But I was just like, man, I just want to
work with him one.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Day, like because you were doing things from the from
the southern perspective that no one else was doing, so
like you were our voice for a very long time.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
What do you think about the current state of hip
hop right now?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Do you like it? No? Nothing, I think that you
don't like this conflict. I mean that's no. I mean
I feel like, well, yes, let me say this. I
think that if we didn't have this battle, hip hop
would be in a bad shape. You know what I mean.
I feel like like if I had if I had
(01:50):
to ask you, what's your top five rappers right now
with you, who you're gonna say?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, number one would be Ja Cob, But he made
me upset the other day, so he's probably not at
number three.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So see just that in itself, you just just that
just removed somebody that's my just wanted him three. I
just wanted him. I wanted him to be him. Okay,
So so now who moves to one and two? Now
future is number one?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
For me?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Then I'm gonna probably put uh who's number two?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
T I uh no, now right now, right now today.
That's what she said, the state of hip hop to day.
I'm gonna go, okay, give me five. I have to
give you five right now.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Future is still on top though this future.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So number one is future for me on part of
the Future Hive. This is the Man Fail Man fan
base of Future Future, the camera Future Hive. Anyway, number
two would be too, would be J Cole, Two would
be J Cole, Three would be three would be I
put Drake in three? Okay, I got two more?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What does Kendrick lie into?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Five?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So who's four?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Four would be a little baby? Okay, if I did
the same thing, you're gonna pick the same people, it's
gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, I'm definitely not gonna pick the same people.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I don't really listen to rap music like that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If you want to say, then you know that's different.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
But I mean, okay, cutting.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Out, Well, they already know Kendrick is my first. He's
my favorite. Right now, I like be a. I can't
think of the radio right now? Who else is on there?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Do y'all see what I was doing? You'll see what
y'all really doing y'all can't think of five rappers. And
this is the state of hip hop right now. You
can't think of five rappers. It's in a bad stakes.
It's in a bad space. And I don't know if
we be talking about rap right now, if they wasn't
missing each other, Wow, we'll be talking about Taylor Swift,
(04:00):
be talking about Son else. I just don't know that.
It's just rap is just in a bad space right now.
It can come back, It's just in a bad space.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
What does it take to come back?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I feel like it's so diluted with multiple versions of
the original copy and then you have ten versions of him,
you have another person, ten versions of another person, ten versions.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
You see, It's like you got ten versions of Wayne,
ten versions of Future, ten versions of Thug.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's like it's just so diluted because.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
My left Thug my man.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, y'all, y'all tripping.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
You don't even have one.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
R B lover man.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I told you you ain't finished, though, Yeah, say the
wrong thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
What's the wrong?
Speaker 7 (04:48):
I think hip hop is fun right now though, too,
Like you know you got sexy reds, you know you
have Who else is having fun.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
To camera camera, just to anybody. She asked me a question.
This is the state of right, this is the state
of impot And like I said that, for me, being
a kid that grew up in the era of hip
hop actually blowing up, it feels very very like, it
(05:20):
feels empty. It feels like a big open space, and
not much is feeling that space right now for me.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Well, not a lot of people know that was newer
people gen z and some of the millennials don't know
that you were a rapper. How did you avoid beef
your most of your career.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I don't. I don't think I avoided. It's not people
still beefing, people beef with you, still mad that you
still got something to say.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
But I think that's more because of you are also
an executive.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And I think, I mean, I think there's people got
something to say, you know. I just think people just
people was gonna always have something to say, you know
what I mean? Like, you know, even like yesterday when
I went to see the vice president, it's like people
talking about, you know, why would you wear an outfit
like that to go see the device? Listen, I went
(06:18):
to see the Vice president so I could have a
conversation with her and a lot of That's another thing
people don't understand, like I'm not a regular nigga like
these people like that talk and I went to have
a conversation with her. I didn't go to take pictures. Actually,
I actually didn't even know that that's what we was
gonna do. I went to basically because she called me
(06:39):
and was like, you know, I want to congratulate you
on freaking it. And a lot of people think that
I went there for a political conversation or whatever. She
was trying to use me for her political campaign. I
wasn't there for that. I was there to speak to
her basically from a real straight up friendship. And I
also went and I had to do to work, so
(07:00):
like save Fancas, we have booked this, and I had
to stop and speak to the president first vice president.
I'm supposed to put a suit on just to go
say hello to her and then come up in here
and talk to y'all, and I'm all suited up, like no,
I was working. I have worked too. I went to
speak to Heave that I moved on. You can't you
know what I mean? I think sometimes like people got this,
(07:23):
They got this crossing the lines. I'm not y'all. I'm
not y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You're not me.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta stop thinking that
because I have a day to day job where I
wake up in the morning. I gotta go do what
I gotta do. Unfortunately, the Vice President just was part
of my schedule. That's it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
One of my favorite songs of all time. Not saying
this because because of you. It's Welcome to Atlanta. Yeah,
I believe that's a very important song to the culture.
I feel like after that, I started paying attention to people,
started putting multiple people in songs and had multiple.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Versions of it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We had the New York version, and then people started
doing their own small versions. What was your thought process
when you said I'm gonna do a song called Welcome
to Atlanta?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Did you do that beat? By the way? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Initially, Welcome to Atlanta's supposed to be me an outcast,
really yeah, and I just didn't. I couldn't really figure
it out the way that the way that I wanted
it to be, because the outcast wasn't really into the
same stuff that I was talking about on my records.
They were something out different things. So I was trying
(08:34):
to figure out how we made a song where we
all talked about pretty much the same thing. So in
the beginning of me making a record, I kept trying
to find things that said something about, you know, Atlanta,
Welcome to Atlanta, blah blah blah. And in the midst
of me doing that Luda Chris video Throw Them Bulls
came on and he's upside down and it's a doormat.
(08:57):
When he's upside down and the doormat said welcome to Atlanta.
I'm like, Oh, that's that's who I need. That's it
right there. So something about that doormat and me watching
that video made me call Chris, and me and Chris
already had this relationship. So then it was like when
I when Chris came to the studio, I told him
exactly the same thing I'm telling y'all, and it just
(09:18):
it just went like wow, Wow.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
It's such a creative genius growing up. Who inspired you
as far as production wise?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Teddy Riley, that's that's my idol from you know, as
a kid, and then Herbie love Bug and uh, that's
the dude who produces salt and Pepper for anybody that
don't know. Like, so between Herbie Love Buck and thirty,
between Herbie Love and uh and and Teddy Riley these
(09:50):
I put these two people together and it was just
like I'm gonna try to be like both of them.
Herbie was writing for Salt and Pepper, like he wrote
Pushing and he wrote these songs. He was writing songs
for girls. So that was my mentality. I could write,
I could start writing songs for people. So I write
songs for Eskpe, I write songs. I write songs for
these people. I'm writing songs Chris Krauss just the third
(10:12):
and then I also produced records and I took that
part from Teddy and I just try to like mesh
these two people together and be like that's who I
want to be.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
So what's your thought process when you go into like
writing songs for people.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It depends on what the you know, what we actually
talking about, what the goal is like if it's like
a goal to get to turn the artists into something
that they not. If it's like what album that artist
is on. It's a bunch of different things that you
know that triggered my my writing process to make me
like I want to say different things or things. Sometimes
(10:45):
it's like very direct and I go to the studio
specifically like today I have to do this like with Bowows,
like Bowo you need a song with O Mario. I'm
gonna go make this song. This is the puff O
Marion just gonna be your part. You gotta have someone, Mari.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Stay right there?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Did you what was your what was your mental conversations
with him? Because to get someone locked in like that
and to deliver these hit records.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Back to back to back, especially a hyper kid, you
have to Yeah, you have to have kids, bro, Like
it's hard for me to get a little to sit still.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Let alone go in here, record this song, sound believable,
and go in to shoot the video, look believable, have
an image, feel believable, and then go to the and
go to the public, go on a tour like you're prepared.
You prepared him to do all this?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
No, no, he came. I was already package. That's the
thing that Chug is beefing about. Like Shug Shug signed
Bowow to death Row when he was five years old.
This is this is you know the facts. It's not
nothing that I'm telling y'all. And bow I was already
like a rapper. He wanted to be a rapper, and
(12:01):
he was already like trying to be like Snoop. He
was trying to be like I think his name was
Kid Gangster when he was like five, and he came
developed like that. He already had that mentality here. You
gotta have that mentality. You can I can't teach that.
You know what I'm saying, y'all. That's why we did
a rap game. You could see on there what kids
have to go through to even get to that space.
(12:24):
And I was when I was doing a rap game,
I'd be there sitting there and be like five kids
in front of me, and I'm like, man, y'all, really,
don't you know? I know somebody that was like way
better than all of y'all at twelve eleven years old.
And that's what Boo I was. He was. Boo was
just like mentally, you could sit there and tell Baoo
exactly what we was gonna do, and he either liked
(12:47):
it or he didn't like it or whatever, but if
he loved it. That's the key to kid writing for
kids is that you have to figure out what kids
like and once the kids like it, and if for them,
they gonna do it in a way that you ain't
You'll never believe.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Now legally was should able to legally sign bow Wow
at five years old?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, Okay, that's why it's never been a situation where
should pursue me or whatever Shug has ever said. It's
never been nothing that could ever happened, because, first of all,
another thing that people don't that that's part of that
story that should don't talk about, is that Bowo got
signed to Sony before I actually signed him, and then
(13:31):
when he got signed to Sony, they didn't know what
to do with bow Wow. They had a kid artists
up there. They didn't know what to do with him,
and they and I was signed to Sony at the
same time. So social depth is here, and we got
this kid artist over here, we should we should have
a collaboration, or you should take bow and put him
over here. It ain't gonna be much because y'all, we
already got the paperwork. So it was already like a
situation where Booo was in the building and I had
(13:55):
the movement, and I had the motion, and it was
just like, yo, you know how to do this? We
should put him over there. So we had that conversation
and we made that deal. And so technically the people
that should should be mad at it's people that sony. Okay,
So you co created the Rap Game? Yeah, Now how
(14:17):
did that come about?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Because you created that the television that would come to you,
did you pitch it?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Now, I wasn't even the television that It was more
like a like I said, it was a show that
was created. Like you know, you got you gotta go
through like an agency once you sell the show. So
the agency sold the show to Lifetime, but prior to that,
it was like a production company that created the show
and they came to me. And once they came to me,
(14:42):
I basically did the same thing I do with music.
I produced the show to make the show exactly what
it is. That's why you was on it. I started
putting people that I know, you know, we're gonna do
the show in Atlanta, Donna pick these people and pick
this person. I start making it my show.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Now, how do you feel about the success of like
you know, but like Flage and Lotto that was a
part of the Rap Game.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean, I think it's amazing. It's amazing I mean,
that's that's what it was all about anyway, for them
artists to like come from that show and then turn
into what they are today, or or at least turned
into something. I'm sad that it ain't, but just it's
three of them, basically more or less that really have
turned into something. Now. A lot of people thought you
were going to sign them to Soco Death. I did,
(15:25):
so everybody got signed, or for the most part, I did.
I mean I just didn't really. You know. The thing
about it is this when I when I started getting
into when I did the rap game. I don't know
why people don't listen to me. Honestly, I don't know why,
but it is, it is what it is. People don't
listen to me. For the most part. I did like
(15:45):
an ep and I did this ep at at at
at at epic and I did I went and talked
to La and all of this, and it was just
a thing where they didn't understand it. I'm like, guys,
I got a TV I got a number one TV
show in the country. Like it wasn't even like no
making it up. The show was number one. It was
a you know, family show, people's watching. People was locked
in and nobody was like the record business wasn't paying
(16:08):
or attention. They didn't understand it right, And and I
get frustrated fast by that, Like if you don't, if
you don't pay attention to what I'm saying, and I
see it working, i'ma move I'm gonna go ahead and
move on. Cool.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I'm glad you said that because it's very important that
you said that, because a lot of people was like,
oh man, JD ain't doing nothing with the with the
kids after he signs them.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
No, I did. I took him on tour, We did
a tour, brought to the radio station. I remember that,
we did a tour. We did everything. I did everything
that was supposed to be done. What didn't happen was
to support you know what I mean, Like, you know,
everything that I do don't get supported. People don't just
support everything JD do. So I have it's a challenge.
(16:50):
But I did everything that I was supposed to do,
and after that epic deal, they actually let me take
all the artists and walk away. So I took all
the artists and I went and did a deal at
Capital to basically try to do as my partner. And
that same thing didn't work, you know what I mean?
It didn't work out because nobody wasn't really putting no
energy behind I'm like, yo, guys, this is a TV show.
(17:12):
It's a whole TV show on a network. Yeah, I'm like,
this is on a network, and y'all don't want to
put no you know, y'all want to make this like
just like it's just like we're doing this almost. It
was like almost giving me like a crutch deal, like
JD will do this because it's you, but we don't
really believe in these artists. And I'm like, wow, okay, cool.
(17:34):
So what that did was after so long of me
happening to go through this, I'm in a frustration space.
I'm just like, you know what. And I also don't
believe I know everything, right, I don't believe I know everything,
So maybe I'm wrong. So if Epic didn't go with it,
and then Capitol didn't go with it, I'm like, man,
maybe I'm tripping. Maybe I just got a good TV
(17:56):
show on these artists trash right for real. That's what
I'm saying that because you have to evaluate it, you
got to evaluate it at some point, right, And so
I start thinking like, man, all right, maybe the artists
ain't it. Maybe the TV show element is what it is,
and I should probably stop trying to push this music
(18:16):
on people. And because I did the tour, and the
tour actually wasn't the greatest success. It was some cities
that were sold out in other cities that didn't sell, right,
And that's where the friction became between Lotto and my dad,
and I guess Lotto dad and then Lotto saying crazy
(18:40):
shit about me whatever whatever.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
For those who don't know, JD's dad is in the
music industry, Michael malten So.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I think that's where the friction came because it was
like people, you know, the artists didn't understand I was
trying to really like blow them up. I would have
buses for them. I'm like, y'all gonna go on tour.
None of them had records out. I put these kids
on tour with no records on the radio likes on tour.
Y'all got to tour, make a bunch of money, and
they expected to make a bunch of money nights that
(19:10):
the show didn't sell, they expected me to pay them.
And I'm like, you know, I'm his work. I'm in
this with y'all. If y'all don't made no money, no money,
I ain't made no money, So how you you expect
me to pay you just from my money? Because y'all
you know what I mean. So it got to be
a misunderstanding on that part. And that's what I said.
(19:31):
It was like, oh JD is this time of board
like this is not You're putting more energy into this
than anybody. Now, how's the relationship now? With a lot
of them? We don't really have no relationship. I mean,
you know, like I said, I don't. I don't get
in her way. Do what you gotta do. I ain't
got nothing to do with it. I just, you know,
like I said, this was just a time. It was
(19:51):
a lot of misunderstanding. They was kids, They ain't understand
what was going on.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So you think she's still mad at you about it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't know. I don't care though. It's not even
about me. That's not I start what my mind is.
I don't I don't think about it. I just know
that I know that people probably think that, oh, you
ain't do nothing with her, because I mean I had
people say, how you just let lot o go do
doo do and I'm like, you think I just let
her go do whatever? You know what I mean? Or
it was some it was some cap that was going
(20:18):
around that was saying that I offer her a deal
and she didn't take it.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah, they said you offer her like ten thousand dollars
or yeah, like so that's cap.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
If I offer somebody a deal that don't have a deal,
you don't even have no interest. Let's say this.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Oh, I'll see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Like I just told y'all that two labels basically was like,
it's no leverage. They already had her right because she
was signed to me, so Epic already had her. It
wasn't nothing you could possibly do when you signed the
deal with the TV show. Inside that contract, the artists
go sign that j man without me, even without you
(20:57):
even winning, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying, without
even winning, the contract said that I have you as
an artist signed to Social death Right. So one I
didn't even have to make a deal, That's what I'm saying. Oh,
so it was it was never even offer, like you
signed to me regardless I don't. I don't have to
make no deal like you're already signed you know what
I'm saying. So to make a story like I offered
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you a deal, It's like, I just think the what
offer did I give you? I didn't offer you not
you already signed, You already signed, sign, you already signed.
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I just think the TV show really kind of overly
exaggerated the she won.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yes, it's time one day in the world.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh yeah, once you won on the show, you did
win my my attention. It's more than money, you know
what I mean, Like me calling you and saying let's
go to the studio, on me working and me talking
this best way what you were saying about with bow. Wow.
If I sit here and I start constructing your life
and start telling you what to do, that's worth more
than any You can't pay me for what I would
(22:02):
do for an artist. You know what I'm saying. If
I had to get money from these artists, they all
to be broke because I'm giving them everything, giving them
so much in and you're molding.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You're molding their career.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Just like what's that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Not?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I was gonna say, star search them? Oh American American.
I ain't watched American Idol and Solo either, but I'm saying,
American Idol signon. All the artists signed assignment. That's why
when artists don't. I didn't know that. When when the artists,
when the artists lose, they still come out. They still
(22:39):
come out, you know what I'm saying. Because he's they
all sign them. So if he likes somebody that didn't
do good on the show, he still put him out.
They all signed to him immediately.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
JD right here on The Butler Alert Show will be
right back.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
We will be right back with more of the Baller
Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of The
Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Pre check me out on the ball Alert Show. Right
here on Revote No Diddy that what more.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
The Butler Alert Show. We got the one and only
JD in the building the building. Well, we got Usher
coming up next. Talking about twenty years of Confessions. You
were the producer of it. What's your top five songs
from Confessions?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Caught Up, Bad Girl, Confessions, My Boo, and I guess
I'm gonna say burn. It's hard. It's hard to say
five because I left, Yeah, but them songs, you know,
and my Boo wasn't actually on the first release of Confessions,
(23:38):
so that technically don't Actually she shouldn't go in the
top five. I actually should put yeah in there. Probably.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Okay, How was it when you first met usher Man?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It was interesting because he was like I think Usher
was probably sixteen seventeen years where'd you meet him at? Well,
I met Usher before he got signed at Crisscross concert.
So he came to Chris Cross concert trying to get
me to sign him, and I wouldn't do it because
I was frustrated with Crisscross parents at the time, and
I was just like, I don't want no more damn
kids in my life. I am not dealing with this
(24:09):
no more. I'm tired of these you know what I mean.
I was going through that then, and I was just like,
I ain't doing out. My next artist will be an adult.
That's what I was saying to myself, Like I'm not
doing the whole kid artist. So when I met Usher,
he was good, and I was just like, yeah, you
ain't good enough to make me have to deal with
these your parents And I ain't meet his mom, but
you know, I knew that it was a mom there somewhere,
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and I was just like, nah, I'm not doing it.
So I passed just for that reason, and then he
signed in the face. So after that we already knew
each other from that point. And then they asked me
to do a remix. I did a remix for him,
and he came to my house and he resung the
lyrics for the remix and the way I had him
do it and the way we work that. He was
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just like, I like to work. I like working with you.
Can we do my next album?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That was my way?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Oh yeah, okay? And so when when? When was the
time to do Confessions? What was that conversation?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
That was a tough conversation because because it was like
me and Usher went to La red house one night
and we was just talking about his album, like his
next album, and La was like, man, you know, Rusher,
you're not interested. You know, you put out an album
and people care about you when your album come out,
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but then you disappear and nothing's nothing's ever really interesting
about Usher. Don't nobody really talk about Usher once he's gone.
And this, actually, that conversation hit me really hard because
it was like, there, you're telling this man right now,
he's not interesting, and a lot of people don't be
hearing these type of stories of like what happens behind
these doors when you're making these records in LA was
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just you know, he kept it real, like you know,
we got to make you more interesting, something about you,
like you gotta do something. And at that time it
was like l suld, maybe you should date this personal.
It was all kind of suggestions that was going on,
so me getting into writing something that made it feel
more personal and making you really like listen to the
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lyrics and be like whoa what is he talking about that?
Go back to the beginning of our conversation, like this
became s like the plan. It wasn't just like going
into the studio and writing whatever this is, like okay,
this man said this. I gotta make sure that whatever
I'm writing for you it plays into what he's saying.
And that was the goal. We just went out there
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to start trying to write. And like I said, when
I wrote All Bad, the first verse of All Bad
is really the sec is really the first verse of
Confessions Too, cause they put it together like that and
it wasn't really like that. It was like that verse
that's in Confessions Too was really in All Bad. And
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they in the video they made that part because it
made more sense to go from and this was la
that I ain't have nothing to do with this. He
just chopped these songs up when he put the first
verse from this song to this song because too so,
I mean, you know what, I didn't know what he
was doing, but it was you know, it was it
was genius what he did. He just like felt like
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this this song and this verse should go with this,
this version of the song, second version of the song,
about to cut you off the second version of the song.
Once we got past Chick on the Side and the
crib in the ride up and tell you so many lines,
ain't nothing good, It's all bad. Once we got past
that part, Usher was like, man, we gotta make part two.
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And I'm like part two. He's like, yeah, what happens?
What what? What happened? What else happened? And that's when
I was like, oh, okay, well I can tell you
what happens. Personally, I could tell you I know exactly
what happens. And then that's when it's just like, you know,
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Chick on the side, Creeping Rob, I know what happens
with all of That's my life after that, so you
know that's when every time I was in there, No, no, no, no,
that's that's not that's what I'm saying. That's that's the
other part of that's what I'm saying. That's the that's
all bad. That part of the song is more or
less like what Usher's life was, gotcha?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
The second part with.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
These are my confessions that just when I thought I
said all I could say, the chick on the side
said she got one on the way. That's jd Like,
oh man, I'm saying, and I don't know what to do.
I think I gotta get up part to it that
if I got to tell it, I'm gonna tell it.
All these are like that's my life, Like, this is
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what happens to the chick on the side. Did you
actually tell it all? Yeah? I mean without naming names, Davis,
how was that for you? It was? I mean it
was it was like fun at first.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Wait wait wait the confession part confessing that you had
to chick on the side with a baby on the way.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh me, And actually it was tough. I mean like
like actually what I did was I actually had Usher
mimic my entire life. So when he says in the
end of the song, when he's talking to that when
he's talking at the end of the song. This is
what I actually told him. I had to do. Like
one of the hardest things in life is to do
is for me to call somebody and tell the person
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that I love that I'm having a baby by somebody
I just met. These are actually my real lines that
I had to tell the people that was in my life.
And I was telling him this and he just actually
said it just was just I'm gonna say just what
you just said, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
And I do like how you turned something that happened
to you into uh a musical piece.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I mean all of them. For the most part, I
just never you know, like you know, I don't sing,
so people don't know that I'm singing these songs. But
you make me want it was my life too, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
So you think, yeah, made me want to then turn
the guy their confessions, Yeah, you make me leading to
win relationship with it was like you know.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Before yeah, yeah, nice and slow, but nice and slow
was more or less like fantasy. You know, want no
real like real life story, but you make me want
to In Confessions Let It Burn is a lot of
real life stuff. Too that we just both you know,
usher they said, I want a song about you know,
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the burning. Actually let it Burn was actually about Chili.
That is the one song that was about that relationship.
He was he was he was ready to let it
just burn out, like if it's gonna go, That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I felt like the when that song came out, it
was like a timing thing because the.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Probably I think they and they I think they did
something with the video that was kind of like remotely
close to what you got a bad video was. So
it made y'all actually mentally start feeling like this. But yeah,
we't never talk about burn being about Chili, but it
was about his relationship and him feeling like it was
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a burning thing that was inside.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Him, a feeling of like when people.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Say that like I got that burning feeling like, well,
I mean sometimes that burning feeling is happiness. You know,
it just depends on what how you you know, how
you frame it up. But he was just saying, it
felt like it felt like it's over. I feel like
I'm fighting something, you know what I mean, this party
(31:44):
that I'm mad it ain't jumping no more. That's when
I start thinking about stuff like that, and I starting
I hear what he's saying, and I'm just like, Okay,
let me say this and let me say this.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
While so he's telling you this and you're just writing
it in lyrics in my in.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
My head, I'm hearing what he's saying. I'm just thinking that,
like you weren't really a masterful.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
You're a genius.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Many people can correlate that and then put it and
then it comes out.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Yeah, man, well we got usher up next.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
JD.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's like with incense and stuff like that. And try
to make it a little bobby as.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Have a pep talk, JD.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
What's up? My motivational speak. A little word for anybody
out there is just to pay attention. Don't ever get
too old to learn, don't ever get too old to
listen and take advice from people.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's no there's no space that you can go in
where you know everything. As long as you live life
like that and you and you leave the door open
for information, it should guide you into a space that
you you never been in.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
We'll be right back. Stay tuned with more of the
Baller Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of
The Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
What best Jumaine to pre check me out on the
ball Alert Show? Right here on the boat about the
past to the homeboy USh twenty years of confession, Yerk the.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Living lefted us arrayment of the BUILDINGSACP. I'm hard in
Atlanta for the Black Music and Entertainment Walk of Fame.
Been in the game for over thirty years, always putting
off for Atlanta. Yes, man in a major way. Got
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your own skates, Yes, got them choads going.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Listen, I took this thing to Las Vegas, and I
told you I brought Atlanta to Vegas, and then I
brought the world to the eight. That was the next
thing to do. But more than anything, thank you for
all that.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
I really appreciate all those introductions. But I need you
to recognize that I am the party. Ladies and gentlemen,
you meat none other than your baby here officially on
the ball of Alert. This is your boy. You are
Rsha the.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Party sexiest man at the moment.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Come on, now, y you got the episode, Oh you
got it, you got the issue? Okay, you got it?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah, you'll see all these grandma's on TikTok doing these comments.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
She and grandma. She and no, grandma, Grandma, do she
just give me my bush? You just try to make
a grandma. Okay, I'm talking about the TikTok. You see
you didn't seen you know, you don't see the TikTok?
What was Grandmas was rating this all cover? Oh my gosh,
she just said that I was the sexiest man alive.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Not Grandma. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
You know what I'm saying, He don't.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's showing the light shade over there. Started off that man.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
You know, twenty years ago, you know what I'm saying,
you dropped the iconic Confessions album.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yeah, celebrating twenty years of it, you know, really happy man.
And to be able to say that there was a classic,
you know, you know, piece of work. The one thing
I hate more than anythings that we didn't have cameras
like we do now. Back then, we didn't have cell phones.
We have pages and backberiys know, so we didn't really
get a chance to like shoot it and show it
and share it. So to be able to at least
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hear it and celebrate it, you know, as the iconic
album that it is, and now twenty years later, to
be able to celebrate it at my festival in Las
Vegas lovers and friends on May fourth. Really excited about that.
I'm going to dedicate the entire night to Confessions the album.
Oh my gosh, that may be a little pick peek
into the future, but for the most part, the night
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is really dedicated and curated to celebrate the twentieth anniversary
of Confessions.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So I got a question, what's your favorite song to perform?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Fagas song to perform? You know, it's different in every concert.
Right when I'm in Las Vegas, it's a different curated show.
So songs like Climax I love, songs like you Don't
Have to Call has a real, you know, specific experience overall,
If I have to think about what I love about
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my show is when people sing along with me. That
right there, lets it be known that this this record
had the type of potency that it should have. It's
normally around the moment when it's not about the lights
and the choreography. But when I go out to my audience,
I reach out to my audience and I asked my
DJ or either I just choose to go off the
cuff and ask them to follow me in these songs
(36:27):
that I just wanted to play in the moment that
that is my favorite part of the show.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
And you get like over a hundred shows in Vegas. Man,
how did you What was your routine? Like health wise?
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I mean, if you haven't show problems off for bad
for you, son, I got ninety nine problems. But to
show anyone, I'm gonna tell you this, man, it actually
is a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
What's the workouse?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, discipline like because as a forty five year old man,
sorry to say that like that, I just hit the forty.
I do not have the usher, man, I need the regiment,
my brother, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I mean, you leave your gang in the build. I'm
not a liber but by the way.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
You were about twenty years ago and going to be
able to, you know, kind of build it up. And
the performance is what pulls me through the fact that
I'm doing this for people who came to see and
be entertained, and I get an audience that is ready
to sing with me, ready to laugh and dance and
have a good time and enjoy their friends and family,
and I can look down there and see that they
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connected someone reliving the moments. I see tears in people's eyes.
I'm like, oh, this was real personal to her. Oh Man,
Like I'm I'm literally in the middle of the show
having a show with my head because I'm reading faces.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And I'm you do read faces.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
When you're performing, because some people don't look directly at
people because they say may bother them a little bit
to make direct eye contact.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
You're making direct eye contact.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Absolutely so much so that if I ever see or
feel that somebody might be missing the moment, I really
focus in on that person and giving them that energy.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, got you, Yeah, I got you. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
But yeah, it's just a It's about that. If you
know people spend their hard earned money to come out
and see you, then you got to deliver them a show.
It's always been about making certain that I leave a customer.
You know, a person who chooses to invest their time
and their money and being there. You know there is
a there's a relationship right there, and you trusted me
this long, so I'm gonna make sure that I give
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you a show to remember.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
After curating the longest most watched super Bowl, you know,
with any any super Bowl halftime show for the past
and present future tour, what can people expect to expect?
Something like how you performed on the Super Bowl, like
with all the songs in one like that, you know,
and some of the Coming Home album in there, or
what's that gonna be about?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
It's gonna be longer than fifteen minutes? Second? Well, yeah,
I mean, I mean, but y'all at.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
Me if I brought you all the way down, I.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Mean, like all the songs, how you had all jammed
together like that?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Am I gonna do?
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, I mean, are you to do a mashup like that?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Sometimes? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (39:00):
That might.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
That might be times where I choose to kind of
go off the beaten path. What I what I want
to say as a if you've ever been on my show,
there know to it like right, So this gave me
an opportunity to be able to spread my wings and
really have fun with my audience. Sometimes it's going to be,
you know, a special guest. Sometimes you know, we might
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flip things up. Sometimes we might just bring out an
entire performer that you never would have thought would have
been on the stage.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Uh, and that's the point.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
The point is to give people an experience that is unpredictable,
but you know you can predict that you're going to
have a great time. Will there be mashups of all
of the songs?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
You know? What I have started to do is kind
of underneath the.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Caption, just look to see if there are specific records
that people want to see doing the show, and then
I kind of put it in the show sequence. We've
been talking about, all right, the flow of it. It's
got to represent past, present, future. We know you know
whom I influences on. But have you been able to
make the connection to the music in a way where
you can actually get it, understand it, and celebrate them.
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That's something that I thought of, and I'm going to,
you know, kind of celebrate my legacy at the same
time because now I guess been an artist long enough
to have a past. Yes, and you know it's gonna
it's gonna definitely be.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Fun and you're blessed in Atlanta with six shows?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, six shows, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
I paid just so you know. My wife got to go.
She went to her legacy. I didn't go with her
because I didn't want.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm calling somebody. Get that free.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I can't do that.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
I'll come with BT.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I'm calling somebody, but I want to ask you this.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Sam BT always showed with a gang of people.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
I'm in the gang.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I want to ask you what what year are you in? Mentally,
because I know you. Sometimes artists like yourself, legendary artists
like yourself have to think ahead. Are you in the
moment in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
A you think?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Are you twenty twenty five? Are you beyond? Like? What's
your future?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Well relevant? Hey, you know to say the least that this.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Industry is lacking in the space of entertainment in the
way that I think I offer entertainment, which it sometimes
may be raw. I can't think so far ahead. I
have to think about how things have been done in
the past. And that's part of the reason that I'm
curating the types of shows and experiences that I have.
I don't really want to make it too educational, but
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just my own process. You know what I'm saying that
I go through that I have to analyze and prepare
for people to just to be able to enjoy it.
But where I am is thinking about the future by
way of making certain that the past is not forgotten,
because that's why we do the kind of music that
we do. That's why we are the entertainers we are.
That's why we entertain because of what they did. So
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bringing it all together and then having some fun in
this moment, but it also to being mindful that, yeah,
we're moving into new ideas of how people you know,
even enjoy shows. Right, Who's to say that you need
to just stand in front of an audience in order
to enjoy a show. That's why I brought you to
Las Vegas and made you feel like you were in
the club. That's why I brought you to Las Vegas
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and made you feel like you were in Atlanta, because
it's not just about me performing for you, it's about
you enjoying the show as well.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
That's a future concept.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
So I'm playing with all these ideas of moving people
in the space and having a good time. But I
don't want to give you too much, you know what.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
I just want to say thank you for all that
you've contributed to the culture. All you're doing from the
past present, and the things that you will be doing
in the future. We're so proud of you man and
just thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I want for that before.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
We get out of here that we do have.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
A pep talk yo. What up to your boy? Arsha?
Speaker 6 (42:45):
And I'm on the baller Alert Show and my word
of advice for you is to keep yourself.
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shout out oct no real color what we see whole game?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wait the butler buck something.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh you can't stand on their own, Susie.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I already know you can't bold with me because up
with the squad of me, they get at that.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
They called me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Love by love.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
By love.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Bowler Lord looking to the bowler shown live from a
t l at L.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I go by the name of Ferrari Simmons.
Speaker 6 (00:29):
I go to that you know btt what that Jamaic
dupri and the Bill Day.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So listen, man, I grew up. I wanted to be
like you for real.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
For I feel like you were the first representation of
an African American person in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That I saw.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I said, Oh he gets he lets me feel like
I can do that too, So I did a part
of Ferrari Simmons has a little bit of jd in.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
But now now that I got that part of the way.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
Hold on, let me piggyback off that I was too.
I think you know you impacted my life too because
you was lit like I came in. I started to
learn about you. Money and a thing with jay Z
I think that was my first introduction to you, and
then you had the bow wow and all that stuff.
But I was just like, man, I just want to
work with him one.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Day, like because you were doing things from the from
the southern perspective that no one else was doing, so
like you were our voice for a very long time.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
What do you think about the current state of hip
hop right now?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Do you like it? No? Nothing, I think that you
don't like this conflict. I mean that's no. I mean
I feel like, well, yes, let me say this. I
think that if we didn't have this battle, hip hop
would be in a bad shape. You know what I mean.
I feel like like if I had if I had
(01:50):
to ask you, what's your top five rappers right now
with you, who you're gonna say?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, number one would be Ja Cob, But he made
me upset the other day, so he's probably not at
number three.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So see just that in itself, you just just that
just removed somebody that's my just wanted him three. I
just wanted him. I wanted him to be him. Okay,
So so now who moves to one and two? Now
future is number one?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
For me?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Then I'm gonna probably put uh who's number two?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
T I uh no, now right now, right now today.
That's what she said, the state of hip hop to day.
I'm gonna go, okay, give me five. I have to
give you five right now.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Future is still on top though this future.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So number one is future for me on part of
the Future Hive. This is the Man Fail Man fan
base of Future Future, the camera Future Hive. Anyway, number
two would be too, would be J Cole, Two would
be J Cole, Three would be three would be I
put Drake in three? Okay, I got two more?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What does Kendrick lie into?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Five?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So who's four?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Four would be a little baby? Okay, if I did
the same thing, you're gonna pick the same people, it's
gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, I'm definitely not gonna pick the same people.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I don't really listen to rap music like that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If you want to say, then you know that's different.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
But I mean, okay, cutting.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Out, Well, they already know Kendrick is my first. He's
my favorite. Right now, I like be a. I can't
think of the radio right now? Who else is on there?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Do y'all see what I was doing? You'll see what
y'all really doing y'all can't think of five rappers. And
this is the state of hip hop right now. You
can't think of five rappers. It's in a bad stakes.
It's in a bad space. And I don't know if
we be talking about rap right now, if they wasn't
missing each other, Wow, we'll be talking about Taylor Swift,
(04:00):
be talking about Son else. I just don't know that.
It's just rap is just in a bad space right now.
It can come back, It's just in a bad space.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
What does it take to come back?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I feel like it's so diluted with multiple versions of
the original copy and then you have ten versions of him,
you have another person, ten versions of another person, ten versions.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
You see, It's like you got ten versions of Wayne,
ten versions of Future, ten versions of Thug.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's like it's just so diluted because.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
My left Thug my man.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, y'all, y'all tripping.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
You don't even have one.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
R B lover man.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I told you you ain't finished, though, Yeah, say the
wrong thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
What's the wrong?
Speaker 7 (04:48):
I think hip hop is fun right now though, too,
Like you know you got sexy reds, you know you
have Who else is having fun.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
To camera camera, just to anybody. She asked me a question.
This is the state of right, this is the state
of impot And like I said that, for me, being
a kid that grew up in the era of hip
hop actually blowing up, it feels very very like, it
(05:20):
feels empty. It feels like a big open space, and
not much is feeling that space right now for me.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Well, not a lot of people know that was newer
people gen z and some of the millennials don't know
that you were a rapper. How did you avoid beef
your most of your career.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I don't. I don't think I avoided. It's not people
still beefing, people beef with you, still mad that you
still got something to say.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
But I think that's more because of you are also
an executive.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And I think, I mean, I think there's people got
something to say, you know. I just think people just
people was gonna always have something to say, you know
what I mean? Like, you know, even like yesterday when
I went to see the vice president, it's like people
talking about, you know, why would you wear an outfit
like that to go see the device? Listen, I went
(06:18):
to see the Vice president so I could have a
conversation with her and a lot of That's another thing
people don't understand, like I'm not a regular nigga like
these people like that talk and I went to have
a conversation with her. I didn't go to take pictures. Actually,
I actually didn't even know that that's what we was
gonna do. I went to basically because she called me
(06:39):
and was like, you know, I want to congratulate you
on freaking it. And a lot of people think that
I went there for a political conversation or whatever. She
was trying to use me for her political campaign. I
wasn't there for that. I was there to speak to
her basically from a real straight up friendship. And I
also went and I had to do to work, so
(07:00):
like save Fancas, we have booked this, and I had
to stop and speak to the president first vice president.
I'm supposed to put a suit on just to go
say hello to her and then come up in here
and talk to y'all, and I'm all suited up, like no,
I was working. I have worked too. I went to
speak to Heave that I moved on. You can't you
know what I mean? I think sometimes like people got this,
(07:23):
They got this crossing the lines. I'm not y'all. I'm
not y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You're not me.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta stop thinking that
because I have a day to day job where I
wake up in the morning. I gotta go do what
I gotta do. Unfortunately, the Vice President just was part
of my schedule. That's it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
One of my favorite songs of all time. Not saying
this because because of you. It's Welcome to Atlanta. Yeah,
I believe that's a very important song to the culture.
I feel like after that, I started paying attention to people,
started putting multiple people in songs and had multiple.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Versions of it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We had the New York version, and then people started
doing their own small versions. What was your thought process
when you said I'm gonna do a song called Welcome
to Atlanta?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Did you do that beat? By the way? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Initially, Welcome to Atlanta's supposed to be me an outcast,
really yeah, and I just didn't. I couldn't really figure
it out the way that the way that I wanted
it to be, because the outcast wasn't really into the
same stuff that I was talking about on my records.
They were something out different things. So I was trying
(08:34):
to figure out how we made a song where we
all talked about pretty much the same thing. So in
the beginning of me making a record, I kept trying
to find things that said something about, you know, Atlanta,
Welcome to Atlanta, blah blah blah. And in the midst
of me doing that Luda Chris video Throw Them Bulls
came on and he's upside down and it's a doormat.
(08:57):
When he's upside down and the doormat said welcome to Atlanta.
I'm like, Oh, that's that's who I need. That's it
right there. So something about that doormat and me watching
that video made me call Chris, and me and Chris
already had this relationship. So then it was like when
I when Chris came to the studio, I told him
exactly the same thing I'm telling y'all, and it just
(09:18):
it just went like wow, Wow.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
It's such a creative genius growing up. Who inspired you
as far as production wise?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Teddy Riley, that's that's my idol from you know, as
a kid, and then Herbie love Bug and uh, that's
the dude who produces salt and Pepper for anybody that
don't know. Like, so between Herbie Love Buck and thirty,
between Herbie Love and uh and and Teddy Riley these
(09:50):
I put these two people together and it was just
like I'm gonna try to be like both of them.
Herbie was writing for Salt and Pepper, like he wrote
Pushing and he wrote these songs. He was writing songs
for girls. So that was my mentality. I could write,
I could start writing songs for people. So I write
songs for Eskpe, I write songs. I write songs for
these people. I'm writing songs Chris Krauss just the third
(10:12):
and then I also produced records and I took that
part from Teddy and I just try to like mesh
these two people together and be like that's who I
want to be.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
So what's your thought process when you go into like
writing songs for people.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It depends on what the you know, what we actually
talking about, what the goal is like if it's like
a goal to get to turn the artists into something
that they not. If it's like what album that artist
is on. It's a bunch of different things that you
know that triggered my my writing process to make me
like I want to say different things or things. Sometimes
(10:45):
it's like very direct and I go to the studio
specifically like today I have to do this like with Bowows,
like Bowo you need a song with O Mario. I'm
gonna go make this song. This is the puff O
Marion just gonna be your part. You gotta have someone, Mari.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Stay right there?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Did you what was your what was your mental conversations
with him? Because to get someone locked in like that
and to deliver these hit records.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Back to back to back, especially a hyper kid, you
have to Yeah, you have to have kids, bro, Like
it's hard for me to get a little to sit still.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Let alone go in here, record this song, sound believable,
and go in to shoot the video, look believable, have
an image, feel believable, and then go to the and
go to the public, go on a tour like you're prepared.
You prepared him to do all this?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
No, no, he came. I was already package. That's the
thing that Chug is beefing about. Like Shug Shug signed
Bowow to death Row when he was five years old.
This is this is you know the facts. It's not
nothing that I'm telling y'all. And bow I was already
like a rapper. He wanted to be a rapper, and
(12:01):
he was already like trying to be like Snoop. He
was trying to be like I think his name was
Kid Gangster when he was like five, and he came
developed like that. He already had that mentality here. You
gotta have that mentality. You can I can't teach that.
You know what I'm saying, y'all. That's why we did
a rap game. You could see on there what kids
have to go through to even get to that space.
(12:24):
And I was when I was doing a rap game,
I'd be there sitting there and be like five kids
in front of me, and I'm like, man, y'all, really,
don't you know? I know somebody that was like way
better than all of y'all at twelve eleven years old.
And that's what Boo I was. He was. Boo was
just like mentally, you could sit there and tell Baoo
exactly what we was gonna do, and he either liked
(12:47):
it or he didn't like it or whatever, but if
he loved it. That's the key to kid writing for
kids is that you have to figure out what kids
like and once the kids like it, and if for them,
they gonna do it in a way that you ain't
You'll never believe.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Now legally was should able to legally sign bow Wow
at five years old?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, Okay, that's why it's never been a situation where
should pursue me or whatever Shug has ever said. It's
never been nothing that could ever happened, because, first of all,
another thing that people don't that that's part of that
story that should don't talk about, is that Bowo got
signed to Sony before I actually signed him, and then
(13:31):
when he got signed to Sony, they didn't know what
to do with bow Wow. They had a kid artists
up there. They didn't know what to do with him,
and they and I was signed to Sony at the
same time. So social depth is here, and we got
this kid artist over here, we should we should have
a collaboration, or you should take bow and put him
over here. It ain't gonna be much because y'all, we
already got the paperwork. So it was already like a
situation where Booo was in the building and I had
(13:55):
the movement, and I had the motion, and it was
just like, yo, you know how to do this? We
should put him over there. So we had that conversation
and we made that deal. And so technically the people
that should should be mad at it's people that sony. Okay,
So you co created the Rap Game? Yeah, Now how
(14:17):
did that come about?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Because you created that the television that would come to you,
did you pitch it?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Now, I wasn't even the television that It was more
like a like I said, it was a show that
was created. Like you know, you got you gotta go
through like an agency once you sell the show. So
the agency sold the show to Lifetime, but prior to that,
it was like a production company that created the show
and they came to me. And once they came to me,
(14:42):
I basically did the same thing I do with music.
I produced the show to make the show exactly what
it is. That's why you was on it. I started
putting people that I know, you know, we're gonna do
the show in Atlanta, Donna pick these people and pick
this person. I start making it my show.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Now, how do you feel about the success of like
you know, but like Flage and Lotto that was a
part of the Rap Game.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean, I think it's amazing. It's amazing I mean,
that's that's what it was all about anyway, for them
artists to like come from that show and then turn
into what they are today, or or at least turned
into something. I'm sad that it ain't, but just it's
three of them, basically more or less that really have
turned into something. Now. A lot of people thought you
were going to sign them to Soco Death. I did,
(15:25):
so everybody got signed, or for the most part, I did.
I mean I just didn't really. You know. The thing
about it is this when I when I started getting
into when I did the rap game. I don't know
why people don't listen to me. Honestly, I don't know why,
but it is, it is what it is. People don't
listen to me. For the most part. I did like
(15:45):
an ep and I did this ep at at at
at at epic and I did I went and talked
to La and all of this, and it was just
a thing where they didn't understand it. I'm like, guys,
I got a TV I got a number one TV
show in the country. Like it wasn't even like no
making it up. The show was number one. It was
a you know, family show, people's watching. People was locked
in and nobody was like the record business wasn't paying
(16:08):
or attention. They didn't understand it right, And and I
get frustrated fast by that, Like if you don't, if
you don't pay attention to what I'm saying, and I
see it working, i'ma move I'm gonna go ahead and
move on. Cool.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I'm glad you said that because it's very important that
you said that, because a lot of people was like,
oh man, JD ain't doing nothing with the with the
kids after he signs them.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
No, I did. I took him on tour, We did
a tour, brought to the radio station. I remember that,
we did a tour. We did everything. I did everything
that was supposed to be done. What didn't happen was
to support you know what I mean, Like, you know,
everything that I do don't get supported. People don't just
support everything JD do. So I have it's a challenge.
(16:50):
But I did everything that I was supposed to do,
and after that epic deal, they actually let me take
all the artists and walk away. So I took all
the artists and I went and did a deal at
Capital to basically try to do as my partner. And
that same thing didn't work, you know what I mean?
It didn't work out because nobody wasn't really putting no
energy behind I'm like, yo, guys, this is a TV show.
(17:12):
It's a whole TV show on a network. Yeah, I'm like,
this is on a network, and y'all don't want to
put no you know, y'all want to make this like
just like it's just like we're doing this almost. It
was like almost giving me like a crutch deal, like
JD will do this because it's you, but we don't
really believe in these artists. And I'm like, wow, okay, cool.
(17:34):
So what that did was after so long of me
happening to go through this, I'm in a frustration space.
I'm just like, you know what. And I also don't
believe I know everything, right, I don't believe I know everything,
So maybe I'm wrong. So if Epic didn't go with it,
and then Capitol didn't go with it, I'm like, man,
maybe I'm tripping. Maybe I just got a good TV
(17:56):
show on these artists trash right for real. That's what
I'm saying that because you have to evaluate it, you
got to evaluate it at some point, right, And so
I start thinking like, man, all right, maybe the artists
ain't it. Maybe the TV show element is what it is,
and I should probably stop trying to push this music
(18:16):
on people. And because I did the tour, and the
tour actually wasn't the greatest success. It was some cities
that were sold out in other cities that didn't sell, right,
And that's where the friction became between Lotto and my dad,
and I guess Lotto dad and then Lotto saying crazy
(18:40):
shit about me whatever whatever.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
For those who don't know, JD's dad is in the
music industry, Michael malten So.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I think that's where the friction came because it was
like people, you know, the artists didn't understand I was
trying to really like blow them up. I would have
buses for them. I'm like, y'all gonna go on tour.
None of them had records out. I put these kids
on tour with no records on the radio likes on tour.
Y'all got to tour, make a bunch of money, and
they expected to make a bunch of money nights that
(19:10):
the show didn't sell, they expected me to pay them.
And I'm like, you know, I'm his work. I'm in
this with y'all. If y'all don't made no money, no money,
I ain't made no money, So how you you expect
me to pay you just from my money? Because y'all
you know what I mean. So it got to be
a misunderstanding on that part. And that's what I said.
(19:31):
It was like, oh JD is this time of board
like this is not You're putting more energy into this
than anybody. Now, how's the relationship now? With a lot
of them? We don't really have no relationship. I mean,
you know, like I said, I don't. I don't get
in her way. Do what you gotta do. I ain't
got nothing to do with it. I just, you know,
like I said, this was just a time. It was
(19:51):
a lot of misunderstanding. They was kids, They ain't understand
what was going on.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So you think she's still mad at you about it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't know. I don't care though. It's not even
about me. That's not I start what my mind is.
I don't I don't think about it. I just know
that I know that people probably think that, oh, you
ain't do nothing with her, because I mean I had
people say, how you just let lot o go do
doo do and I'm like, you think I just let
her go do whatever? You know what I mean? Or
it was some it was some cap that was going
(20:18):
around that was saying that I offer her a deal
and she didn't take it.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah, they said you offer her like ten thousand dollars
or yeah, like so that's cap.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
If I offer somebody a deal that don't have a deal,
you don't even have no interest. Let's say this.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Oh, I'll see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Like I just told y'all that two labels basically was like,
it's no leverage. They already had her right because she
was signed to me, so Epic already had her. It
wasn't nothing you could possibly do when you signed the
deal with the TV show. Inside that contract, the artists
go sign that j man without me, even without you
(20:57):
even winning, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying, without
even winning, the contract said that I have you as
an artist signed to Social death Right. So one I
didn't even have to make a deal, That's what I'm saying. Oh,
so it was it was never even offer, like you
signed to me regardless I don't. I don't have to
make no deal like you're already signed you know what
I'm saying. So to make a story like I offered
(21:21):
you a deal, It's like, I just think the what
offer did I give you? I didn't offer you not
you already signed, You already signed, sign, you already signed.
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I just think the TV show really kind of overly
exaggerated the she won.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yes, it's time one day in the world.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh yeah, once you won on the show, you did
win my my attention. It's more than money, you know
what I mean, Like me calling you and saying let's
go to the studio, on me working and me talking
this best way what you were saying about with bow. Wow.
If I sit here and I start constructing your life
and start telling you what to do, that's worth more
than any You can't pay me for what I would
(22:02):
do for an artist. You know what I'm saying. If
I had to get money from these artists, they all
to be broke because I'm giving them everything, giving them
so much in and you're molding.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You're molding their career.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Just like what's that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Not?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I was gonna say, star search them? Oh American American.
I ain't watched American Idol and Solo either, but I'm saying,
American Idol signon. All the artists signed assignment. That's why
when artists don't. I didn't know that. When when the artists,
when the artists lose, they still come out. They still
(22:39):
come out, you know what I'm saying. Because he's they
all sign them. So if he likes somebody that didn't
do good on the show, he still put him out.
They all signed to him immediately.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
JD right here on The Butler Alert Show will be
right back.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
We will be right back with more of the Baller
Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of The
Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Pre check me out on the ball Alert Show. Right
here on Revote No Diddy that what more.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
The Butler Alert Show. We got the one and only
JD in the building the building. Well, we got Usher
coming up next. Talking about twenty years of Confessions. You
were the producer of it. What's your top five songs
from Confessions?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Caught Up, Bad Girl, Confessions, My Boo, and I guess
I'm gonna say burn. It's hard. It's hard to say
five because I left, Yeah, but them songs, you know,
and my Boo wasn't actually on the first release of Confessions,
(23:38):
so that technically don't Actually she shouldn't go in the
top five. I actually should put yeah in there. Probably.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Okay, How was it when you first met usher Man?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It was interesting because he was like I think Usher
was probably sixteen seventeen years where'd you meet him at? Well,
I met Usher before he got signed at Crisscross concert.
So he came to Chris Cross concert trying to get
me to sign him, and I wouldn't do it because
I was frustrated with Crisscross parents at the time, and
I was just like, I don't want no more damn
kids in my life. I am not dealing with this
(24:09):
no more. I'm tired of these you know what I mean.
I was going through that then, and I was just like,
I ain't doing out. My next artist will be an adult.
That's what I was saying to myself, Like I'm not
doing the whole kid artist. So when I met Usher,
he was good, and I was just like, yeah, you
ain't good enough to make me have to deal with
these your parents And I ain't meet his mom, but
you know, I knew that it was a mom there somewhere,
(24:32):
and I was just like, nah, I'm not doing it.
So I passed just for that reason, and then he
signed in the face. So after that we already knew
each other from that point. And then they asked me
to do a remix. I did a remix for him,
and he came to my house and he resung the
lyrics for the remix and the way I had him
do it and the way we work that. He was
(24:53):
just like, I like to work. I like working with you.
Can we do my next album?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That was my way?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Oh yeah, okay? And so when when? When was the
time to do Confessions? What was that conversation?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
That was a tough conversation because because it was like
me and Usher went to La red house one night
and we was just talking about his album, like his
next album, and La was like, man, you know, Rusher,
you're not interested. You know, you put out an album
and people care about you when your album come out,
(25:29):
but then you disappear and nothing's nothing's ever really interesting
about Usher. Don't nobody really talk about Usher once he's gone.
And this, actually, that conversation hit me really hard because
it was like, there, you're telling this man right now,
he's not interesting, and a lot of people don't be
hearing these type of stories of like what happens behind
these doors when you're making these records in LA was
(25:51):
just you know, he kept it real, like you know,
we got to make you more interesting, something about you,
like you gotta do something. And at that time it
was like l suld, maybe you should date this personal.
It was all kind of suggestions that was going on,
so me getting into writing something that made it feel
more personal and making you really like listen to the
(26:15):
lyrics and be like whoa what is he talking about that?
Go back to the beginning of our conversation, like this
became s like the plan. It wasn't just like going
into the studio and writing whatever this is, like okay,
this man said this. I gotta make sure that whatever
I'm writing for you it plays into what he's saying.
And that was the goal. We just went out there
(26:38):
to start trying to write. And like I said, when
I wrote All Bad, the first verse of All Bad
is really the sec is really the first verse of
Confessions Too, cause they put it together like that and
it wasn't really like that. It was like that verse
that's in Confessions Too was really in All Bad. And
(27:02):
they in the video they made that part because it
made more sense to go from and this was la
that I ain't have nothing to do with this. He
just chopped these songs up when he put the first
verse from this song to this song because too so,
I mean, you know what, I didn't know what he
was doing, but it was you know, it was it
was genius what he did. He just like felt like
(27:24):
this this song and this verse should go with this,
this version of the song, second version of the song,
about to cut you off the second version of the song.
Once we got past Chick on the Side and the
crib in the ride up and tell you so many lines,
ain't nothing good, It's all bad. Once we got past
that part, Usher was like, man, we gotta make part two.
(27:44):
And I'm like part two. He's like, yeah, what happens?
What what? What happened? What else happened? And that's when
I was like, oh, okay, well I can tell you
what happens. Personally, I could tell you I know exactly
what happens. And then that's when it's just like, you know,
(28:06):
Chick on the side, Creeping Rob, I know what happens
with all of That's my life after that, so you
know that's when every time I was in there, No, no, no, no,
that's that's not that's what I'm saying. That's that's the
other part of that's what I'm saying. That's the that's
all bad. That part of the song is more or
less like what Usher's life was, gotcha?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
The second part with.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
These are my confessions that just when I thought I
said all I could say, the chick on the side
said she got one on the way. That's jd Like,
oh man, I'm saying, and I don't know what to do.
I think I gotta get up part to it that
if I got to tell it, I'm gonna tell it.
All these are like that's my life, Like, this is
(28:47):
what happens to the chick on the side. Did you
actually tell it all? Yeah? I mean without naming names, Davis,
how was that for you? It was? I mean it
was it was like fun at first.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Wait wait wait the confession part confessing that you had
to chick on the side with a baby on the way.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh me, And actually it was tough. I mean like
like actually what I did was I actually had Usher
mimic my entire life. So when he says in the
end of the song, when he's talking to that when
he's talking at the end of the song. This is
what I actually told him. I had to do. Like
one of the hardest things in life is to do
is for me to call somebody and tell the person
(29:30):
that I love that I'm having a baby by somebody
I just met. These are actually my real lines that
I had to tell the people that was in my life.
And I was telling him this and he just actually
said it just was just I'm gonna say just what
you just said, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
And I do like how you turned something that happened
to you into uh a musical piece.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I mean all of them. For the most part, I
just never you know, like you know, I don't sing,
so people don't know that I'm singing these songs. But
you make me want it was my life too, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
So you think, yeah, made me want to then turn
the guy their confessions, Yeah, you make me leading to
win relationship with it was like you know.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Before yeah, yeah, nice and slow, but nice and slow
was more or less like fantasy. You know, want no
real like real life story, but you make me want
to In Confessions Let It Burn is a lot of
real life stuff. Too that we just both you know,
usher they said, I want a song about you know,
(30:40):
the burning. Actually let it Burn was actually about Chili.
That is the one song that was about that relationship.
He was he was he was ready to let it
just burn out, like if it's gonna go, That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I felt like the when that song came out, it
was like a timing thing because the.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Probably I think they and they I think they did
something with the video that was kind of like remotely
close to what you got a bad video was. So
it made y'all actually mentally start feeling like this. But yeah,
we't never talk about burn being about Chili, but it
was about his relationship and him feeling like it was
(31:17):
a burning thing that was inside.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Him, a feeling of like when people.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Say that like I got that burning feeling like, well,
I mean sometimes that burning feeling is happiness. You know,
it just depends on what how you you know, how
you frame it up. But he was just saying, it
felt like it felt like it's over. I feel like
I'm fighting something, you know what I mean, this party
(31:44):
that I'm mad it ain't jumping no more. That's when
I start thinking about stuff like that, and I starting
I hear what he's saying, and I'm just like, Okay,
let me say this and let me say this.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
While so he's telling you this and you're just writing
it in lyrics in my in.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
My head, I'm hearing what he's saying. I'm just thinking that,
like you weren't really a masterful.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
You're a genius.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Many people can correlate that and then put it and
then it comes out.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Yeah, man, well we got usher up next.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
JD.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's like with incense and stuff like that. And try
to make it a little bobby as.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Have a pep talk, JD.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
What's up? My motivational speak. A little word for anybody
out there is just to pay attention. Don't ever get
too old to learn, don't ever get too old to
listen and take advice from people.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's no there's no space that you can go in
where you know everything. As long as you live life
like that and you and you leave the door open
for information, it should guide you into a space that
you you never been in.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
We'll be right back. Stay tuned with more of the
Baller Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of
The Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
What best Jumaine to pre check me out on the
ball Alert Show? Right here on the boat about the
past to the homeboy USh twenty years of confession, Yerk the.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Living lefted us arrayment of the BUILDINGSACP. I'm hard in
Atlanta for the Black Music and Entertainment Walk of Fame.
Been in the game for over thirty years, always putting
off for Atlanta. Yes, man in a major way. Got
(33:42):
your own skates, Yes, got them choads going.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Listen, I took this thing to Las Vegas, and I
told you I brought Atlanta to Vegas, and then I
brought the world to the eight. That was the next
thing to do. But more than anything, thank you for
all that.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
I really appreciate all those introductions. But I need you
to recognize that I am the party. Ladies and gentlemen,
you meat none other than your baby here officially on
the ball of Alert. This is your boy. You are
Rsha the.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Party sexiest man at the moment.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Come on, now, y you got the episode, Oh you
got it, you got the issue? Okay, you got it?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah, you'll see all these grandma's on TikTok doing these comments.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
She and grandma. She and no, grandma, Grandma, do she
just give me my bush? You just try to make
a grandma. Okay, I'm talking about the TikTok. You see
you didn't seen you know, you don't see the TikTok?
What was Grandmas was rating this all cover? Oh my gosh,
she just said that I was the sexiest man alive.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Not Grandma. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
You know what I'm saying, He don't.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's showing the light shade over there. Started off that man.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
You know, twenty years ago, you know what I'm saying,
you dropped the iconic Confessions album.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yeah, celebrating twenty years of it, you know, really happy man.
And to be able to say that there was a classic,
you know, you know, piece of work. The one thing
I hate more than anythings that we didn't have cameras
like we do now. Back then, we didn't have cell phones.
We have pages and backberiys know, so we didn't really
get a chance to like shoot it and show it
and share it. So to be able to at least
(35:14):
hear it and celebrate it, you know, as the iconic
album that it is, and now twenty years later, to
be able to celebrate it at my festival in Las
Vegas lovers and friends on May fourth. Really excited about that.
I'm going to dedicate the entire night to Confessions the album.
Oh my gosh, that may be a little pick peek
into the future, but for the most part, the night
(35:36):
is really dedicated and curated to celebrate the twentieth anniversary
of Confessions.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So I got a question, what's your favorite song to perform?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Fagas song to perform? You know, it's different in every concert.
Right when I'm in Las Vegas, it's a different curated show.
So songs like Climax I love, songs like you Don't
Have to Call has a real, you know, specific experience overall,
If I have to think about what I love about
(36:06):
my show is when people sing along with me. That
right there, lets it be known that this this record
had the type of potency that it should have. It's
normally around the moment when it's not about the lights
and the choreography. But when I go out to my audience,
I reach out to my audience and I asked my
DJ or either I just choose to go off the
cuff and ask them to follow me in these songs
(36:27):
that I just wanted to play in the moment that
that is my favorite part of the show.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
And you get like over a hundred shows in Vegas. Man,
how did you What was your routine? Like health wise?
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I mean, if you haven't show problems off for bad
for you, son, I got ninety nine problems. But to
show anyone, I'm gonna tell you this, man, it actually
is a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
What's the workouse?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, discipline like because as a forty five year old man,
sorry to say that like that, I just hit the forty.
I do not have the usher, man, I need the regiment,
my brother, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I mean, you leave your gang in the build. I'm
not a liber but by the way.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
You were about twenty years ago and going to be
able to, you know, kind of build it up. And
the performance is what pulls me through the fact that
I'm doing this for people who came to see and
be entertained, and I get an audience that is ready
to sing with me, ready to laugh and dance and
have a good time and enjoy their friends and family,
and I can look down there and see that they
(37:25):
connected someone reliving the moments. I see tears in people's eyes.
I'm like, oh, this was real personal to her. Oh Man,
Like I'm I'm literally in the middle of the show
having a show with my head because I'm reading faces.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And I'm you do read faces.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
When you're performing, because some people don't look directly at
people because they say may bother them a little bit
to make direct eye contact.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
You're making direct eye contact.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Absolutely so much so that if I ever see or
feel that somebody might be missing the moment, I really
focus in on that person and giving them that energy.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, got you, Yeah, I got you. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
But yeah, it's just a It's about that. If you
know people spend their hard earned money to come out
and see you, then you got to deliver them a show.
It's always been about making certain that I leave a customer.
You know, a person who chooses to invest their time
and their money and being there. You know there is
a there's a relationship right there, and you trusted me
this long, so I'm gonna make sure that I give
(38:19):
you a show to remember.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
After curating the longest most watched super Bowl, you know,
with any any super Bowl halftime show for the past
and present future tour, what can people expect to expect?
Something like how you performed on the Super Bowl, like
with all the songs in one like that, you know,
and some of the Coming Home album in there, or
what's that gonna be about?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
It's gonna be longer than fifteen minutes? Second? Well, yeah,
I mean, I mean, but y'all at.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
Me if I brought you all the way down, I.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Mean, like all the songs, how you had all jammed
together like that?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Am I gonna do?
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, I mean, are you to do a mashup like that?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Sometimes? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (39:00):
That might.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
That might be times where I choose to kind of
go off the beaten path. What I what I want
to say as a if you've ever been on my show,
there know to it like right, So this gave me
an opportunity to be able to spread my wings and
really have fun with my audience. Sometimes it's going to be,
you know, a special guest. Sometimes you know, we might
(39:22):
flip things up. Sometimes we might just bring out an
entire performer that you never would have thought would have
been on the stage.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Uh, and that's the point.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
The point is to give people an experience that is unpredictable,
but you know you can predict that you're going to
have a great time. Will there be mashups of all
of the songs?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
You know? What I have started to do is kind
of underneath the.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Caption, just look to see if there are specific records
that people want to see doing the show, and then
I kind of put it in the show sequence. We've
been talking about, all right, the flow of it. It's
got to represent past, present, future. We know you know
whom I influences on. But have you been able to
make the connection to the music in a way where
you can actually get it, understand it, and celebrate them.
(40:07):
That's something that I thought of, and I'm going to,
you know, kind of celebrate my legacy at the same
time because now I guess been an artist long enough
to have a past. Yes, and you know it's gonna
it's gonna definitely be.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Fun and you're blessed in Atlanta with six shows?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, six shows, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
I paid just so you know. My wife got to go.
She went to her legacy. I didn't go with her
because I didn't want.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm calling somebody. Get that free.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I can't do that.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
I'll come with BT.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I'm calling somebody, but I want to ask you this.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Sam BT always showed with a gang of people.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
I'm in the gang.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I want to ask you what what year are you in? Mentally,
because I know you. Sometimes artists like yourself, legendary artists
like yourself have to think ahead. Are you in the
moment in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
A you think?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Are you twenty twenty five? Are you beyond? Like? What's
your future?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Well relevant? Hey, you know to say the least that this.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Industry is lacking in the space of entertainment in the
way that I think I offer entertainment, which it sometimes
may be raw. I can't think so far ahead. I
have to think about how things have been done in
the past. And that's part of the reason that I'm
curating the types of shows and experiences that I have.
I don't really want to make it too educational, but
(41:28):
just my own process. You know what I'm saying that
I go through that I have to analyze and prepare
for people to just to be able to enjoy it.
But where I am is thinking about the future by
way of making certain that the past is not forgotten,
because that's why we do the kind of music that
we do. That's why we are the entertainers we are.
That's why we entertain because of what they did. So
(41:54):
bringing it all together and then having some fun in
this moment, but it also to being mindful that, yeah,
we're moving into new ideas of how people you know,
even enjoy shows. Right, Who's to say that you need
to just stand in front of an audience in order
to enjoy a show. That's why I brought you to
Las Vegas and made you feel like you were in
the club. That's why I brought you to Las Vegas
(42:14):
and made you feel like you were in Atlanta, because
it's not just about me performing for you, it's about
you enjoying the show as well.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
That's a future concept.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
So I'm playing with all these ideas of moving people
in the space and having a good time. But I
don't want to give you too much, you know what.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
I just want to say thank you for all that
you've contributed to the culture. All you're doing from the
past present, and the things that you will be doing
in the future. We're so proud of you man and
just thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I want for that before.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
We get out of here that we do have.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
A pep talk yo. What up to your boy? Arsha?
Speaker 6 (42:45):
And I'm on the baller Alert Show and my word
of advice for you is to keep yourself.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
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