May 2, 2024 • 36 mins
Scarborough tells MSNBC audience they're stupid if they think anti-Semitic riots aren't bad for Biden. Trump defends American culture in Michigan speech. Campus protests have diverted attention from Trump trial. Trump promises largest deportation in American history, but will the system let him do it? Clay gives thumbs down to Mint Juleps.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are
rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. I hope
all of you are having a fabulous day wherever you
may be across this country. These protests on college campuses,
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they've got everybody a little bit rustled inside of the
Democrat Party. And the fact that Biden felt compelled to
come out and speak this morning, I think is a
sign that the polling on this is frankly a disaster
for Democrats. Leave aside the fact that the Democrat Party
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is unable to take a strong side, and that side
should be Israel, because Israel is responding to its own
nine to eleven style attack and has every right to
eradicate anyone who would do to it what they did
on October seventh. And I think the vast majority of
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you listening to us agree with that position. You don't
have to, you can disagree, that's the great thing about America.
But I think most on the right are on the
side of Israel and believe that Israel has a right
to defend itself and do not see the individuals in
Gaza as victims here because they elected Hamas to be
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their political party of choice. In Hamas' entire stated purpose,
among many others, is to eradicate Jews from the face
of the earth. So the fact that the Jews would
want to defend themselves against an organization that exists to
eliminate them from the face of the earth and just
killed over twelve hundred innocent Jewish people is not to
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most people a difficult choice to make. But because Arabs
vote for Democrats, and because Jewish people traditionally vote for Democrats,
Joe Biden can't figure out how he should appropriate really respond.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
The show that he.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Usually starts his morning off with is Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough,
Mika Brazinski. They sit around and typically are left wing propagandist, but.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It is Do you think this is the most influential
Democrat cable news show in the Biden era? I think
it is because CNN is a joke. No one watches,
no one cares the CNN nighttime anchors, no one even
knows who they are. MSNBC without matt Ow, they don't
have the same interest. So I think Morning Joe may
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set the table for the Democrat Party. Yes, it does,
and I would point out that another reason why that
occurs is people aren't yet at work while they are
on and they wake up in the morning and they
put on Morning Joe, and Morning Joe kind of sets
the agenda for the left in the country. Again, not
to say that Rachel.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Mattow, you know, in the evenings on Monday night, when
she actually manages or his will to show up. Primetime
programming does have an impact. But I think early morning
this is Fox and Friends. Trump would start off his
day watching Fox and Friends on Fox News. Hugely successful
morning show way more successful in terms of viewership than
Morning Joe. But Morning Joe is a left wing influential show.
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Joe Biden himself watches it, and this is Joe Scarborough.
I think Buck Joe Scarborough all of a sudden has
had and this is going to sound crazy, but I
think he's had a bit of a brush with reality
of late. He's come out and said a few things
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that are one hundred percent rational, And I listened to
him and I say, you know what, this makes sense.
We played a couple of his cuts. Now, I think,
you know, during COVID when he was saying I got
my four hundred and sixty eighth COVID shot and I
still got COVID. I think COVID broke his brain a
little bit. Now that we're through COVID, and even left wingers,
although you still I'll see a lot of these people
(04:00):
running around in mask now that left wingers, for the
most part, recognize that COVID is done. I think COVID's
about to drop. I saw a stat even as you
count it, I think COVID is about to become.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The fourteenth leading.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Cause of death on projection in twenty twenty four. That is,
there are thirteen other things, and that's even when you
count COVID. Remember there's like four mortalities on average, even
when you count COVID.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We've talked about this for years, but I.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Think it's through, and I think it's now like the
brain is starting to recognize other thoughts.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I would also on the Joe Scarborough issue. I don't
know the man, never spoken to the man. I just
know his work, unfortunately, and I think there are more
than a brush with reality. I think he recognizes and
we're about to let everyone hear from him. Bad for
the Democrats, Yes, this is a bad look. BLM in
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that moment was honestly, they steamrolled Publicans for a while. Republicans,
some of them went along with it. I'm gonna tell
you I liked him Scott a lot as a politician.
I think he's a really good, honorable man. I think
that he would be a fine vice president and maybe
even president down the line. He wanted to have a
conversation if you remember about BLM and policing and looking
(05:19):
at the police issue right afterwards, and I didn't think
that was the right I didn't think that was the
right move. I thought it was caving into it at
the time. This is my recollection of it. Maybe there's
some details that I'm leaving out, but I think that
with Scarborough he recognizes as bad for the Democrat Party.
He also works for MSNBC, which is owned by NBC News,
which is owned by Comcast right Comcast YEA and as
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a Comcast Universal and I have a feeling that all
the way up the very top ranks of Comcast, you
don't have people who are virulently anti Semitic, in anti
Israeli and pro Palestinian. So I think there are a
number of reasons why Joe Scarborough he's what's going on
on these campuses and says this is not a.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Good thing, no doubt, and he's willing to speak truth
to his audience. I would also point out, like this
is where I'm gonna circle back around right before we
play it. This is where I trust college football fans
more than I do anybody else on the planet. You've
talked pointed this out before, Like, if I find out
that you're a college football fan, I don't believe that
you can be pure evil. I think you can be redeemed.
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I'm like Darth Vader Luke Skywalker at the end. I
think if you're a college football fan, you have some sanity.
I will say positive Joe Scarborough monster University of Alabama fan,
and we've got a fun clip to play from the
University of Alabama campus. So I don't believe even though
I think Alabama fans, as a Tennessee fan, are often
pure evil, I am willing to believe that they are
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still very much decent human beings. But Scarborough remembers down
on the Panhandle, he's kind of now pretending to be
a left winger, but maybe there's just that little bit
of scintilla thanks to his college football, fandom of sanity
that's still giving us.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You're gonna give it them way too much credit, way
to credit for me, cooledgeball, the stuff bag.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
He says, You're stupid if you aren't willing to recognize
how bad this is for Democrats. And I'm sorry. You
need to change the channel if you aren't willing to
hear it. This is this Morning on Morning Joe.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But I can tell you the riots on college campuses,
the riots at the Chicago convention in sixty eight, all
of those things moved my family from being Democrats their
entire life to being Republicans. I remember I was young,
and I remember my parents asking why in the world
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is going on in this country. No matter, if you're
offended by this, please I'm trying to help you. I
don't want Donald Trump to get elected, right, trying to
help you. If you're too stupid to figure that out,
you can change to another channel because we're sorting through
this as a country, and this is not helping. This
is not helping the people of Gaza, and this is
not helping those some of us who want to fight
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fascism in America.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Now he still has to pivot it into Trump as
a fascist. Trump is a dictator, So you have to
kind of take it with a grain of salt because
he's still talking to the choir, preaching to the choir here.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But he's right. This is a disaster for Democrats. And
this is why we're just.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Saying in the last hour, when your opponent is lighting
himself on fire, stay away from him. Yep, don't connected
to this. Let him do it right, and it's one
hundred percent right. I think this is cutting through well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
This is why I get so frustrated with the lack
of foresight, the lack of strategy or strategic thinking, and
the lack of honestly free speech principle with this bill
that the House just passed. I mean, first of all,
we're to point where any Republican in Congress in twenty
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twenty four, in this election year, should be highly suspicious
of anything that a whole lot of Democrats want to
sign on to. Okay, that's your first indicator that something
is amiss. This Democrat party is full of lunatics, as
evidenced by what's going on with the campus.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Just as bom were.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The shock troops on the streets of the Biden twenty
twenty campaign. This is a similar view into what the
Biden base really is, and you see it on the
campuses with the shrieking and the screaming and all the
rest of it. So I think that the longer this continues,
the better it is for not just Trump, but for
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all Republicans who are running, because this stuff is entirely inexcusable.
No person outside of the hive mind, nobody who hasn't
been subjected to the mind control and the propaganda of
the left is going to see what's going on and
say to themselves, yeah, this makes sense to me. I
also want to know where were the on campus protests
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demanding justice for the murdered Israelis. Where were the campus
protests out in the quad demanded the International Criminal Court
go after every person in Hamas who had anything to
do with the atrocity of October seventh.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Where were the.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Calls for justice for the families of the murdered Israelis.
None of that existed for any of these groups. So
when they say things like their anti war, we all
need to understand that is a lie. It is a dodge,
and just like much of the anti war movement was
used during the Cold War, as useful idiots for the
communists of the Soviet Union. The communists today on our
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campuses play the same games. They're doing the exact same thing. Oh,
we just want food and water for the people of Gaza.
Did you want justice for the families of the murdered
Israeli civilians? Did they care? Were there anyone any of
these protesters that are wearing cafeas and playing makeshift revolutionary?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
We need basic humanitarian aid. The Upper West Side is
too scary for us.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Were any of them expressing out rage at the hijacking
of the palace eating caused by Hamas. No, and there's
that word hijacking that probably triggers them. No, they weren't,
because they are, in fact, the resistance is Hamas.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That if anything, you were going to be protesting on
a college campus, wouldn't you be protesting honestly, if you
were really fired up, wouldn't you be protesting in favor
of the five American citizens who are still hostages. That's
directly connected to America. I wish we could try this out.
I mean, maybe we could send one of our producers.
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We have a couple of producers who look like I'm
not naming names, but who could infiltrate among their even
though they're a little bit on the older side, to
be on college, to be in college.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
We have a couple of.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Producers, not naming names, who could sneak in there and
uh and could blend, could blend, you know, they would,
they would not be out of place. I want to
have them, though, go and ask how many Americans are
being held by hamas as as hostages they even know?
That's why I think that you would get I think
that less than one in ten protesters would even know
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that their Americans being held, and they're being held under
threat of torture and murder. I mean some of them
probably have already been tortured and murder. We don't know
the full scope of what's been done to all the hostages,
but they don't know and they don't care. I would
also want to ask them is suicide bombing a legitimate
tactic of resistance for Hamas because that is what Hama
when they talk about intifada, and I think we had
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vivake with this yesterday, pointing out they often say infatada,
which you know, sounds like a delicious breakfast tree or something.
It's intifada, which means uprising. There have been multiple intifadas,
and the Second Intifada around two thousand and one two
thousand and two was essentially a just one mass suicide
bombing campaign. It's what led the Israelis to build the
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border wall and to finally lock down their security the
point where their lives and their civilization could continue. Do
all these protesters support that same Hamas leadership. Well, these
Relis took out a lot of them, but some of
the same Hamas leadership is in charge now, Clay, this
whole thing is absurd, you know, and honestly, the the
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you could argue the Russia Ukraine war has far bigger
implications for America, certainly for our checkbooks, than anything going
on in Gaza. And yet they're so much more interested
in this, And you have to ask why, why does
this conflict get them so upset? Why does this go
far beyond what we've seen in the Sudanese Civil War,
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which I'm sure they don't even know about. Why does
this get them so much more aggravated than the Syrian
civil wards?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Because they are Jews involved.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
That's why Jews and people they see is white well, yeah,
only white Jews, which is what they those two things
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Trump was in Michigan yesterday, critical state in the upcoming
election and obviously one that has a lot of eyes
on it because of the whole pro Hamas protests on
campus buy and doesn't want to upset the Muslim community
too much in this country, so he's worried about how
he handles this. But Trump last night had a moment
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where he also turned our attention back toward the situation
of illegal immigration and what happens when it is unrestricted.
This has cut seventeen. This is kind of vintage Trump
here this moment.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Play it.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Look at Paris, look at London. They're no longer recognizable.
And I'm going to get myself into a lot of
trouble with the folks in Paris and the folks in London.
But you know what, that's the fact they are no
longer recognizable, and we can't let that happen to our country.
We have incredible culture, tradition, nothing wrong with their culture,
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their tradition. Can't let that happen here, and I'll never
let it happen to the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I think Trump is defender of Americanness, which unites us all,
irrespective of color, race, et cetera. I think that's a
powerful message for him going to twenty twenty four, given
what's happened under Biden.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I thought it was funny because the Biden administration shared
this as if it were a negative and I actually
went into the comments and the comments were overwhelmingly like,
are you guys this out of touch that you think
this is a negative commentary from Trump? This actually makes
me want to vote for Trump more. And I think
this all ties in. If I were Trump, I would
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go and I'll talk about this maybe in a second
we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I would go.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I know they had to cancel a event in North
Carolina because of weather. I would invite every one of
those fraternity guys that held up the flag at UNC
Chapel Hill. I would invite them onto the stage with
me for the next rally that I have in North Carolina,
and I would give them a shout out on the stage.
I would shake their hands I would pose for photos.
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I think that's an iconic moment that cuts through when
we uh maybe a little bit later in the show.
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of you hanging out with us. A little bit of
a preview, by the way, next hour about the time
will be joined by Tutor Dixon, who was on stage
with Trump yesterday in his rally in Michigan. Trump was
in Wisconsin and in Michigan, two battleground states that may
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well decide the outcome of the twenty twenty four election.
There was no trial going on Wednesday, so he is
traveling around. So couple of things. Trump is headed back
to North Carolina soon. They had to cancel a rally
there because of weather conditions. Do you agree with me,
Buck that bringing all of these fraternity guys who held
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up the flag onto stage and featuring them at the
rally is a no brainer that will redown to Trump's benefit,
both morally because they did the right thing and politically,
which is a double win. And it would make a
lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yes, And I think it goes to what I was
just talking about. With Trump as the defender of American ness.
You were really setting this up where this is Biden
base on the campuses. They clearly they hate Israel, but
they also hate America and they've embraced this ideology of
anti whiteness, which is a big part, as we've discussed,
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of why they also are anti Semitic and opposed to
the state of Israel. And I think Trump gets to
position himself as I'm the guy who loves the flag,
loves the country, loves the way we are, wants to
preserve it, and wants to help us prosper and Biden
is the guy that has a bunch of lunatics running
around destroying, tearing down and making no sense. And I
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think that that's a powerful or BLM was able to
tap into these long standing and you know, historically rooted
issues of the country in a way that they were
able to I think, turn to their just looking at
the politics, turn to their advantage. I don't think normal
Americans look at campuses being torn asunder and the the
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viciousness and the lunacy that's being spewed and say to themselves, well,
for Hamas and Gaza and the Palestinians, this is worth it, man,
this is worth it.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
This is kind of a niche issue. Really.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I would also point out this, and this is why
I think Biden has been loath to speak on this.
We are into week three of the Trump trial in
New York City. You and I both agree that it
is garbage, that it is an embarrassment, that it should
have never happened. Nobody's talking about it. Think about the
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way that these campus protests have taken over the story,
is they have detracted from what Democrats thought.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Was going to be. All of this limelight that is
on the Trump trial.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I think most people are already over it, and we
kind of predicted this would likely be the case, because
your average person has gotten distracted by Egene Carroll, and
then you got the Letitia D. James, and then you've
got the Arthur Ingern what is going to end up
being the dollar figure for Trump's cash that he's going
to have to post. All of this has kind of
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moved into one large noise in New York City that
I think by and large, many are ignoring. But all
of the campus protests, this isn't even the biggest story
in New York City. You've got a former sitting president
of the United States on trial. They're trying to put
him in prison for the rest of his life four
different cases. This is the first one, and I feel
like there's kind of a collective shrug other than that
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guy lighting himself on fire in the in the in
the outside of the courthouse. Has there really been an
unexpected moment where you thought to yourself, oh my goodness,
this is can't believe it. Meanwhile, City College, New York,
NYU Columbia, all of the attention, even in New York
City is on the protest compared to the trial.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And I think that while all that's going on, while
we see this playing out, there's the real possibility here.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Let's say there.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Even do get a a guilty verdict in New York,
which is clearly what the Democrats want and I think
at some level have to believe is what would turn
their fortunes around Even if they got that verdict. I
think what they would find is the polls would be
either static or would trend toward Trump even more.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I no longer believe at all.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I mean, I haven't about New York really, but I
no longer think that a New York conviction hurts Donald
Trump politically. So what is the you know, what is
the endgame here? What are they really playing for? The
whole thing is madness and Trump is actually using at
some level the attention that has to be focused on
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him during all of this. To bring up issues I
talked about, we played the clip where he's talked about
American ness and Paris and London are no longer recognizable.
He also is saying that they're going to begin the
largest to mestick deportation operation in American history on day
one of his presidency. This is a pretty big promise.
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Did you hear this one? I mean, let's let everybody
listen to it. This is caught eighteen.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Play it. When I return to the.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
White House, we will stop the plunder, rape, slaughter, and
destruction of the American suburb cities and towns.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We're going to stop it gold.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
We will immediately end all sanctuary and deadly sanctuary cities.
I will shift massive portions of federal law enforcement to
immigration enforcement.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And we will impose a naval blockade.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
On the cartels, because when we clean up the land
they come in by sea, we will put the cartels
out of business. They will be out of business and quickly,
and on day one, we will begin the largest domestic
deportation operation.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
In American history.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
If he keeps that promise, that's going to be an
interesting time for the country, for sure. Do you think
he's actually going to be able to get that through.
Obviously that would create some waves. I don't think so.
And that's not because I don't think it should happen.
It's because I think this is the gamble that Democrats
are playing, and I think they're playing the super long game.
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They know that when illegals get here, it becomes very
difficult to ever get illegals out, and so I think
they're not thinking in terms of one presidential cycle. They're
not thinking about two presidential cycles. They're thinking about generations.
And this is why I think it's important for a
lot of people out there. I don't buy into the
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savior complex of politicians. I think there are many politicians
that are good. I think there are many politicians that
are bad, but most of them have relatively limited life
cycles on the national stage. If Trump is the greatest
president that we've ever seen, and I hope he wins
in twenty twenty four, and I hope he has the
greatest presidency we've ever seen, he's only president four years,
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and the older I get, the less significant any term
in office becomes. Because even if you're great, the amount
that you can undertake in four years or eight years
is relatively small. You got to string together a lot
of wins, a lot of cycles in order to really
change the direction of the country. Well, this is why
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I always thought that the thing that Donald Trump brought
to America and was guaranteed as soon as he won
in twenty sixteen, was he saved us from four years
of Hillary Clinton. Yeah, so for four years I didn't
have you all.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Ah, I want to.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Have that you win by not making things worse. I
mean that is a standard of win. But in terms
of actually reversing the awfulness of Biden, this is why
I think I'm already looking. Look, I want Trump to
win in twenty four, but he's only got four years.
We need to be thinking about a durable majority, who
can win into twenty eight, who can win in thirty two.
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It's a generational thing that we need to put in
place to restore normalcy to this country. And my cautiously
optimistic read on history book, and I wrote this in
my most recent book, is after nineteen when Nixon won
in sixty eight. From nineteen sixty eight all the way
up frankly until twenty twelve, basically you had presidential contest
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where both sides tried to argue who loved America the most.
That was basically the campaign twenty twelve turned into total
identity politics. But you even go back to two thousand
and eight, Yeah, Obama was like, America is amazing. The
fact that I can be elected president is a signed.
I mean, it was very much like Reagan and eighty. Honestly,
take away lasted maybe until the votes were cast, didn't
(27:51):
last very long, but the campaign was a America is
an amazing place.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
From nineteen six.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
They vote for the first black president, It's an amazing place.
That was the Obama pitch.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But that's forty years of America is awesome campaigns. We
argued over who loved America the most, and then in
twenty twelve, sixteen, twenty and now twenty four we're into
I mean, legitimately, Biden is like America is an awful
racist place, and we've an extended it's like Biden is
(28:21):
running for president of the United Nations.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I mean, that's really the sense.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Somewhat took the case right, And so I'm cautiously optimistic
that twenty four can be nineteen sixty eight and we
can have like forty years of getting back to Hey,
let's argue over who loves America more.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Mark marked down the day, mark down the day. Everybody's
May second. Yesterday was a commie holiday, truly Mayday. Yes,
it was, you know, International Comedy Day, and just mark
it down. I'm sorry I couldn't say it on that day.
There's not going to be any mess at the DNC
or anything else, not really, I mean, nothing that gets
anyone's attention, and they'll be there's always idiots somewhere who
(28:56):
are going to shout and scream when Biden's going into
a place. The machine Clay, you're not a star trek
nerd right.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Democrats, Yeah, Democrats are the borg. They're like cyborg humans
who are all hive mind connected and all do what
they're supposed to do when they're really supposed to do it.
I mean, right now, there's some of them have gone
a little bit rogue, but it's early, it's May.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well, I think telling a sign that they are terrified
Biden's going to lose. That's why they're going rogue. They're
trying to lead him into a way where he wins.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, I mean I think also there's an argument to
be made that this allows Biden by letting the base
vent its spleen over Israel stuff. Right now, there at
least is some hope for Biden to say that he
did something or that he wasn't as bad on the
Palestinian That's why he makes the comments that he does
right about, Oh, we can't have anti Palestinian American rhetoric
(29:50):
out there either. He wants to have it both ways.
I think it's hard for him to get away with that,
but I I it's sometimes I remember the Democrats, we're
all about defund police, Clay in twenty twenty. Biden was
never defund police. He never he never once said we
should defund police or whatever. And you can point out, well,
hold on a second, your whole party saying that, why
(30:12):
aren't you calling them out different messages for different audiences.
If you know, it's like Rafat, what Arafat used to
say in Arabic a little different from what he used
to kind of mutter to people in English. Let me
tell you, hey, this is the reality. That's what Democrats
are doing. That they didn't put the trans Day of
Visibility into Spanish. Remember, they didn't translate it exactly literally,
that's what they're trying to pull off on this issue
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Speaker 1 (32:43):
Right, but you should on the Sunday Hang with Clay
and Buck podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
All right, welcome back in team Clay and Buck. You're
going strong as ever. Next hour, Tutor Dixon joining us.
Trump was just in Michigan. He was lighting it up
there doing his thing. Remarkable. You got Trump campaigning and
Biden just barely sputtering along. You know, you would think
(33:09):
that this wouldn't even be a horse race, but we
have to assume it's gonna be very close, probably a
photo finish. As you can hear. I'm already getting ready
for the Kentucky Derby this weekend. We're playing with the
So if you see Clay in some big funny hat,
that will actually be him at the derby. I guess
the guy. Do we wear big funny hats?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Men? Well, no, men are not the hat people. Laura,
my wife has got two different hats that have arrived
at the house because we're driving up as soon as
the show's over tomorrow. It's not that bad of a
drive from Nashville to Louisville, and she is I don't
know that she's made a hat decision. It's gonna be
a last minute I'm certainly not being asked about this
at all. But she's got to decide what dressed it
(33:48):
to wear, to wear, what dress to wear that fits
with the hat. Men in my experience typically don't wear hats,
but if you did, it would be like an old
school for Dora, something of that nature. And I just
hope the weather's going to be good. I hear that
we may have some rain related issues. The last time
I was there, I know I was there for this,
(34:09):
Nashville had the worst flood in five hundred years, about
fifteen years ago ish, and that happened the day of
the Kentucky Derby. So I drove back to Nashville late
that night and it was the whole city of Nashville
was coming undone.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
It rained a lot at the Derby that day. I've
never had a mint julip. Are they good?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
They're awful.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Really, I may lose I may lose a lot of
support in Kentucky. I know we're number one in Louisville
among many other places. I'm just gonna be honest with you.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I tried the min
julop and I said, this is the worst drink that
is famous that I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
This is going to go up there alongside your solo
male ice cream eating and flute player takes Mane. I
think the mint Julip crowd not going to be happy
with you at all over this.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Look.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I'm a big I'm a big old fashioned fan. I'm
not anti bourbon. I've been to the bourbon trail all
over Kentucky. I like whiskey. I'm not gonna alienate everybody.
I like the bluegrass state. My family is all from Kentucky.
My the Travis family is all from ewle and Berg County, Kentucky.
My grandfather came down to Nashville to work and du
(35:22):
pont during the Great Depression. So that's why we live
in Nashville now. So I've got all my great grandparents
are buried in the state of Kentucky. All my family
was from up there on my dad's side. Still have
a lot of family, you know, I have relatives really
to this day. We're in Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I'd have to ask my dad, but they're they're all
over there. We got we got a lot of Kentucky relatives.
It's a true story.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, we have one famous country music singer. Some people
listening to this may know him Merle Travis, who was
the most famous song is sixteen tons. That's about great mind.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
That's a great country you know, that's a great country
music singer name Travis.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Merle Travis was my like, you know, grandfather's uncle I think,
or her cousin or something like that. Anyway, that he's
from the same group in Muhlenberg County, Tennessee, so that
is where my family came from. Now doesn't change the
fact that mint julep overrated, not an enjoyable drink.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I think maybe the most overrated famous drink of an alcohol.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Respective you're in the mint julip that for you're letting
you get trampled by all the horses.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Here's the truth.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
If you drink enough of them, it eventually doesn't taste
that bad. But that's only because you're so drunk you
can't taste it anyre. Just if a mint julip goes
flying across the room or the track and uh sprays
all over clay, we're gonna know why.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
We definitely have lost the mint Jewlop sponsorship dollars. Here
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are
rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. I hope
all of you are having a fabulous day wherever you
may be across this country. These protests on college campuses,
(00:22):
they've got everybody a little bit rustled inside of the
Democrat Party. And the fact that Biden felt compelled to
come out and speak this morning, I think is a
sign that the polling on this is frankly a disaster
for Democrats. Leave aside the fact that the Democrat Party
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is unable to take a strong side, and that side
should be Israel, because Israel is responding to its own
nine to eleven style attack and has every right to
eradicate anyone who would do to it what they did
on October seventh. And I think the vast majority of
(01:03):
you listening to us agree with that position. You don't
have to, you can disagree, that's the great thing about America.
But I think most on the right are on the
side of Israel and believe that Israel has a right
to defend itself and do not see the individuals in
Gaza as victims here because they elected Hamas to be
(01:24):
their political party of choice. In Hamas' entire stated purpose,
among many others, is to eradicate Jews from the face
of the earth. So the fact that the Jews would
want to defend themselves against an organization that exists to
eliminate them from the face of the earth and just
killed over twelve hundred innocent Jewish people is not to
(01:46):
most people a difficult choice to make. But because Arabs
vote for Democrats, and because Jewish people traditionally vote for Democrats,
Joe Biden can't figure out how he should appropriate really respond.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
The show that he.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Usually starts his morning off with is Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough,
Mika Brazinski. They sit around and typically are left wing propagandist, but.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It is Do you think this is the most influential
Democrat cable news show in the Biden era? I think
it is because CNN is a joke. No one watches,
no one cares the CNN nighttime anchors, no one even
knows who they are. MSNBC without matt Ow, they don't
have the same interest. So I think Morning Joe may
(02:35):
set the table for the Democrat Party. Yes, it does,
and I would point out that another reason why that
occurs is people aren't yet at work while they are
on and they wake up in the morning and they
put on Morning Joe, and Morning Joe kind of sets
the agenda for the left in the country. Again, not
to say that Rachel.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Mattow, you know, in the evenings on Monday night, when
she actually manages or his will to show up. Primetime
programming does have an impact. But I think early morning
this is Fox and Friends. Trump would start off his
day watching Fox and Friends on Fox News. Hugely successful
morning show way more successful in terms of viewership than
Morning Joe. But Morning Joe is a left wing influential show.
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Joe Biden himself watches it, and this is Joe Scarborough.
I think Buck Joe Scarborough all of a sudden has
had and this is going to sound crazy, but I
think he's had a bit of a brush with reality
of late. He's come out and said a few things
(03:40):
that are one hundred percent rational, And I listened to
him and I say, you know what, this makes sense.
We played a couple of his cuts. Now, I think,
you know, during COVID when he was saying I got
my four hundred and sixty eighth COVID shot and I
still got COVID. I think COVID broke his brain a
little bit. Now that we're through COVID, and even left wingers,
although you still I'll see a lot of these people
(04:00):
running around in mask now that left wingers, for the
most part, recognize that COVID is done. I think COVID's
about to drop. I saw a stat even as you
count it, I think COVID is about to become.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The fourteenth leading.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Cause of death on projection in twenty twenty four. That is,
there are thirteen other things, and that's even when you
count COVID. Remember there's like four mortalities on average, even
when you count COVID.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We've talked about this for years, but I.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Think it's through, and I think it's now like the
brain is starting to recognize other thoughts.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I would also on the Joe Scarborough issue. I don't
know the man, never spoken to the man. I just
know his work, unfortunately, and I think there are more
than a brush with reality. I think he recognizes and
we're about to let everyone hear from him. Bad for
the Democrats, Yes, this is a bad look. BLM in
(04:56):
that moment was honestly, they steamrolled Publicans for a while. Republicans,
some of them went along with it. I'm gonna tell
you I liked him Scott a lot as a politician.
I think he's a really good, honorable man. I think
that he would be a fine vice president and maybe
even president down the line. He wanted to have a
conversation if you remember about BLM and policing and looking
(05:19):
at the police issue right afterwards, and I didn't think
that was the right I didn't think that was the
right move. I thought it was caving into it at
the time. This is my recollection of it. Maybe there's
some details that I'm leaving out, but I think that
with Scarborough he recognizes as bad for the Democrat Party.
He also works for MSNBC, which is owned by NBC News,
which is owned by Comcast right Comcast YEA and as
(05:41):
a Comcast Universal and I have a feeling that all
the way up the very top ranks of Comcast, you
don't have people who are virulently anti Semitic, in anti
Israeli and pro Palestinian. So I think there are a
number of reasons why Joe Scarborough he's what's going on
on these campuses and says this is not a.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Good thing, no doubt, and he's willing to speak truth
to his audience. I would also point out, like this
is where I'm gonna circle back around right before we
play it. This is where I trust college football fans
more than I do anybody else on the planet. You've
talked pointed this out before, Like, if I find out
that you're a college football fan, I don't believe that
you can be pure evil. I think you can be redeemed.
(06:25):
I'm like Darth Vader Luke Skywalker at the end. I
think if you're a college football fan, you have some sanity.
I will say positive Joe Scarborough monster University of Alabama fan,
and we've got a fun clip to play from the
University of Alabama campus. So I don't believe even though
I think Alabama fans, as a Tennessee fan, are often
pure evil, I am willing to believe that they are
(06:45):
still very much decent human beings. But Scarborough remembers down
on the Panhandle, he's kind of now pretending to be
a left winger, but maybe there's just that little bit
of scintilla thanks to his college football, fandom of sanity
that's still giving us.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You're gonna give it them way too much credit, way
to credit for me, cooledgeball, the stuff bag.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
He says, You're stupid if you aren't willing to recognize
how bad this is for Democrats. And I'm sorry. You
need to change the channel if you aren't willing to
hear it. This is this Morning on Morning Joe.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But I can tell you the riots on college campuses,
the riots at the Chicago convention in sixty eight, all
of those things moved my family from being Democrats their
entire life to being Republicans. I remember I was young,
and I remember my parents asking why in the world
(07:40):
is going on in this country. No matter, if you're
offended by this, please I'm trying to help you. I
don't want Donald Trump to get elected, right, trying to
help you. If you're too stupid to figure that out,
you can change to another channel because we're sorting through
this as a country, and this is not helping. This
is not helping the people of Gaza, and this is
not helping those some of us who want to fight
(08:01):
fascism in America.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Now he still has to pivot it into Trump as
a fascist. Trump is a dictator, So you have to
kind of take it with a grain of salt because
he's still talking to the choir, preaching to the choir here.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But he's right. This is a disaster for Democrats. And
this is why we're just.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Saying in the last hour, when your opponent is lighting
himself on fire, stay away from him. Yep, don't connected
to this. Let him do it right, and it's one
hundred percent right. I think this is cutting through well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
This is why I get so frustrated with the lack
of foresight, the lack of strategy or strategic thinking, and
the lack of honestly free speech principle with this bill
that the House just passed. I mean, first of all,
we're to point where any Republican in Congress in twenty
(08:49):
twenty four, in this election year, should be highly suspicious
of anything that a whole lot of Democrats want to
sign on to. Okay, that's your first indicator that something
is amiss. This Democrat party is full of lunatics, as
evidenced by what's going on with the campus.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Just as bom were.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The shock troops on the streets of the Biden twenty
twenty campaign. This is a similar view into what the
Biden base really is, and you see it on the
campuses with the shrieking and the screaming and all the
rest of it. So I think that the longer this continues,
the better it is for not just Trump, but for
(09:29):
all Republicans who are running, because this stuff is entirely inexcusable.
No person outside of the hive mind, nobody who hasn't
been subjected to the mind control and the propaganda of
the left is going to see what's going on and
say to themselves, yeah, this makes sense to me. I
also want to know where were the on campus protests
(09:51):
demanding justice for the murdered Israelis. Where were the campus
protests out in the quad demanded the International Criminal Court
go after every person in Hamas who had anything to
do with the atrocity of October seventh.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Where were the.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Calls for justice for the families of the murdered Israelis.
None of that existed for any of these groups. So
when they say things like their anti war, we all
need to understand that is a lie. It is a dodge,
and just like much of the anti war movement was
used during the Cold War, as useful idiots for the
communists of the Soviet Union. The communists today on our
(10:34):
campuses play the same games. They're doing the exact same thing. Oh,
we just want food and water for the people of Gaza.
Did you want justice for the families of the murdered
Israeli civilians? Did they care? Were there anyone any of
these protesters that are wearing cafeas and playing makeshift revolutionary?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
We need basic humanitarian aid. The Upper West Side is
too scary for us.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Were any of them expressing out rage at the hijacking
of the palace eating caused by Hamas. No, and there's
that word hijacking that probably triggers them. No, they weren't,
because they are, in fact, the resistance is Hamas.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That if anything, you were going to be protesting on
a college campus, wouldn't you be protesting honestly, if you
were really fired up, wouldn't you be protesting in favor
of the five American citizens who are still hostages. That's
directly connected to America. I wish we could try this out.
I mean, maybe we could send one of our producers.
(11:32):
We have a couple of producers who look like I'm
not naming names, but who could infiltrate among their even
though they're a little bit on the older side, to
be on college, to be in college.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
We have a couple of.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Producers, not naming names, who could sneak in there and
uh and could blend, could blend, you know, they would,
they would not be out of place. I want to
have them, though, go and ask how many Americans are
being held by hamas as as hostages they even know?
That's why I think that you would get I think
that less than one in ten protesters would even know
(12:03):
that their Americans being held, and they're being held under
threat of torture and murder. I mean some of them
probably have already been tortured and murder. We don't know
the full scope of what's been done to all the hostages,
but they don't know and they don't care. I would
also want to ask them is suicide bombing a legitimate
tactic of resistance for Hamas because that is what Hama
when they talk about intifada, and I think we had
(12:25):
vivake with this yesterday, pointing out they often say infatada,
which you know, sounds like a delicious breakfast tree or something.
It's intifada, which means uprising. There have been multiple intifadas,
and the Second Intifada around two thousand and one two
thousand and two was essentially a just one mass suicide
bombing campaign. It's what led the Israelis to build the
(12:46):
border wall and to finally lock down their security the
point where their lives and their civilization could continue. Do
all these protesters support that same Hamas leadership. Well, these
Relis took out a lot of them, but some of
the same Hamas leadership is in charge now, Clay, this
whole thing is absurd, you know, and honestly, the the
(13:07):
you could argue the Russia Ukraine war has far bigger
implications for America, certainly for our checkbooks, than anything going
on in Gaza. And yet they're so much more interested
in this, And you have to ask why, why does
this conflict get them so upset? Why does this go
far beyond what we've seen in the Sudanese Civil War,
(13:27):
which I'm sure they don't even know about. Why does
this get them so much more aggravated than the Syrian
civil wards?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Because they are Jews involved.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
That's why Jews and people they see is white well, yeah,
only white Jews, which is what they those two things
they go together. It's crazy eight two two eight two
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Speaker 2 (13:52):
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They know their stuff, and you know they also stand
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Speaker 3 (15:47):
Trump was in Michigan yesterday, critical state in the upcoming
election and obviously one that has a lot of eyes
on it because of the whole pro Hamas protests on
campus buy and doesn't want to upset the Muslim community
too much in this country, so he's worried about how
he handles this. But Trump last night had a moment
(16:10):
where he also turned our attention back toward the situation
of illegal immigration and what happens when it is unrestricted.
This has cut seventeen. This is kind of vintage Trump
here this moment.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Play it.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Look at Paris, look at London. They're no longer recognizable.
And I'm going to get myself into a lot of
trouble with the folks in Paris and the folks in London.
But you know what, that's the fact they are no
longer recognizable, and we can't let that happen to our country.
We have incredible culture, tradition, nothing wrong with their culture,
(16:46):
their tradition. Can't let that happen here, and I'll never
let it happen to the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I think Trump is defender of Americanness, which unites us all,
irrespective of color, race, et cetera. I think that's a
powerful message for him going to twenty twenty four, given
what's happened under Biden.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I thought it was funny because the Biden administration shared
this as if it were a negative and I actually
went into the comments and the comments were overwhelmingly like,
are you guys this out of touch that you think
this is a negative commentary from Trump? This actually makes
me want to vote for Trump more. And I think
this all ties in. If I were Trump, I would
(17:27):
go and I'll talk about this maybe in a second
we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I would go.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I know they had to cancel a event in North
Carolina because of weather. I would invite every one of
those fraternity guys that held up the flag at UNC
Chapel Hill. I would invite them onto the stage with
me for the next rally that I have in North Carolina,
and I would give them a shout out on the stage.
I would shake their hands I would pose for photos.
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I think that's an iconic moment that cuts through when
we uh maybe a little bit later in the show.
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Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. A little bit of
a preview, by the way, next hour about the time
will be joined by Tutor Dixon, who was on stage
with Trump yesterday in his rally in Michigan. Trump was
in Wisconsin and in Michigan, two battleground states that may
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well decide the outcome of the twenty twenty four election.
There was no trial going on Wednesday, so he is
traveling around. So couple of things. Trump is headed back
to North Carolina soon. They had to cancel a rally
there because of weather conditions. Do you agree with me,
Buck that bringing all of these fraternity guys who held
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up the flag onto stage and featuring them at the
rally is a no brainer that will redown to Trump's benefit,
both morally because they did the right thing and politically,
which is a double win. And it would make a
lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yes, And I think it goes to what I was
just talking about. With Trump as the defender of American ness.
You were really setting this up where this is Biden
base on the campuses. They clearly they hate Israel, but
they also hate America and they've embraced this ideology of
anti whiteness, which is a big part, as we've discussed,
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of why they also are anti Semitic and opposed to
the state of Israel. And I think Trump gets to
position himself as I'm the guy who loves the flag,
loves the country, loves the way we are, wants to
preserve it, and wants to help us prosper and Biden
is the guy that has a bunch of lunatics running
around destroying, tearing down and making no sense. And I
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think that that's a powerful or BLM was able to
tap into these long standing and you know, historically rooted
issues of the country in a way that they were
able to I think, turn to their just looking at
the politics, turn to their advantage. I don't think normal
Americans look at campuses being torn asunder and the the
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viciousness and the lunacy that's being spewed and say to themselves, well,
for Hamas and Gaza and the Palestinians, this is worth it, man,
this is worth it.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
This is kind of a niche issue. Really.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I would also point out this, and this is why
I think Biden has been loath to speak on this.
We are into week three of the Trump trial in
New York City. You and I both agree that it
is garbage, that it is an embarrassment, that it should
have never happened. Nobody's talking about it. Think about the
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way that these campus protests have taken over the story,
is they have detracted from what Democrats thought.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Was going to be. All of this limelight that is
on the Trump trial.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I think most people are already over it, and we
kind of predicted this would likely be the case, because
your average person has gotten distracted by Egene Carroll, and
then you got the Letitia D. James, and then you've
got the Arthur Ingern what is going to end up
being the dollar figure for Trump's cash that he's going
to have to post. All of this has kind of
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moved into one large noise in New York City that
I think by and large, many are ignoring. But all
of the campus protests, this isn't even the biggest story
in New York City. You've got a former sitting president
of the United States on trial. They're trying to put
him in prison for the rest of his life four
different cases. This is the first one, and I feel
like there's kind of a collective shrug other than that
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guy lighting himself on fire in the in the in
the outside of the courthouse. Has there really been an
unexpected moment where you thought to yourself, oh my goodness,
this is can't believe it. Meanwhile, City College, New York,
NYU Columbia, all of the attention, even in New York
City is on the protest compared to the trial.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And I think that while all that's going on, while
we see this playing out, there's the real possibility here.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Let's say there.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Even do get a a guilty verdict in New York,
which is clearly what the Democrats want and I think
at some level have to believe is what would turn
their fortunes around Even if they got that verdict. I
think what they would find is the polls would be
either static or would trend toward Trump even more.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I no longer believe at all.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I mean, I haven't about New York really, but I
no longer think that a New York conviction hurts Donald
Trump politically. So what is the you know, what is
the endgame here? What are they really playing for? The
whole thing is madness and Trump is actually using at
some level the attention that has to be focused on
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him during all of this. To bring up issues I
talked about, we played the clip where he's talked about
American ness and Paris and London are no longer recognizable.
He also is saying that they're going to begin the
largest to mestick deportation operation in American history on day
one of his presidency. This is a pretty big promise.
(24:05):
Did you hear this one? I mean, let's let everybody
listen to it. This is caught eighteen.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Play it. When I return to the.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
White House, we will stop the plunder, rape, slaughter, and
destruction of the American suburb cities and towns.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We're going to stop it gold.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
We will immediately end all sanctuary and deadly sanctuary cities.
I will shift massive portions of federal law enforcement to
immigration enforcement.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And we will impose a naval blockade.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
On the cartels, because when we clean up the land
they come in by sea, we will put the cartels
out of business. They will be out of business and quickly,
and on day one, we will begin the largest domestic
deportation operation.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
In American history.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
If he keeps that promise, that's going to be an
interesting time for the country, for sure. Do you think
he's actually going to be able to get that through.
Obviously that would create some waves. I don't think so.
And that's not because I don't think it should happen.
It's because I think this is the gamble that Democrats
are playing, and I think they're playing the super long game.
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They know that when illegals get here, it becomes very
difficult to ever get illegals out, and so I think
they're not thinking in terms of one presidential cycle. They're
not thinking about two presidential cycles. They're thinking about generations.
And this is why I think it's important for a
lot of people out there. I don't buy into the
(25:41):
savior complex of politicians. I think there are many politicians
that are good. I think there are many politicians that
are bad, but most of them have relatively limited life
cycles on the national stage. If Trump is the greatest
president that we've ever seen, and I hope he wins
in twenty twenty four, and I hope he has the
greatest presidency we've ever seen, he's only president four years,
(26:05):
and the older I get, the less significant any term
in office becomes. Because even if you're great, the amount
that you can undertake in four years or eight years
is relatively small. You got to string together a lot
of wins, a lot of cycles in order to really
change the direction of the country. Well, this is why
(26:25):
I always thought that the thing that Donald Trump brought
to America and was guaranteed as soon as he won
in twenty sixteen, was he saved us from four years
of Hillary Clinton. Yeah, so for four years I didn't
have you all.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Ah, I want to.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Have that you win by not making things worse. I
mean that is a standard of win. But in terms
of actually reversing the awfulness of Biden, this is why
I think I'm already looking. Look, I want Trump to
win in twenty four, but he's only got four years.
We need to be thinking about a durable majority, who
can win into twenty eight, who can win in thirty two.
(27:02):
It's a generational thing that we need to put in
place to restore normalcy to this country. And my cautiously
optimistic read on history book, and I wrote this in
my most recent book, is after nineteen when Nixon won
in sixty eight. From nineteen sixty eight all the way
up frankly until twenty twelve, basically you had presidential contest
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where both sides tried to argue who loved America the most.
That was basically the campaign twenty twelve turned into total
identity politics. But you even go back to two thousand
and eight, Yeah, Obama was like, America is amazing. The
fact that I can be elected president is a signed.
I mean, it was very much like Reagan and eighty. Honestly,
take away lasted maybe until the votes were cast, didn't
(27:51):
last very long, but the campaign was a America is
an amazing place.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
From nineteen six.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
They vote for the first black president, It's an amazing place.
That was the Obama pitch.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But that's forty years of America is awesome campaigns. We
argued over who loved America the most, and then in
twenty twelve, sixteen, twenty and now twenty four we're into
I mean, legitimately, Biden is like America is an awful
racist place, and we've an extended it's like Biden is
(28:21):
running for president of the United Nations.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I mean, that's really the sense.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Somewhat took the case right, And so I'm cautiously optimistic
that twenty four can be nineteen sixty eight and we
can have like forty years of getting back to Hey,
let's argue over who loves America more.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Mark marked down the day, mark down the day. Everybody's
May second. Yesterday was a commie holiday, truly Mayday. Yes,
it was, you know, International Comedy Day, and just mark
it down. I'm sorry I couldn't say it on that day.
There's not going to be any mess at the DNC
or anything else, not really, I mean, nothing that gets
anyone's attention, and they'll be there's always idiots somewhere who
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are going to shout and scream when Biden's going into
a place. The machine Clay, you're not a star trek
nerd right.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Democrats, Yeah, Democrats are the borg. They're like cyborg humans
who are all hive mind connected and all do what
they're supposed to do when they're really supposed to do it.
I mean, right now, there's some of them have gone
a little bit rogue, but it's early, it's May.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well, I think telling a sign that they are terrified
Biden's going to lose. That's why they're going rogue. They're
trying to lead him into a way where he wins.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, I mean I think also there's an argument to
be made that this allows Biden by letting the base
vent its spleen over Israel stuff. Right now, there at
least is some hope for Biden to say that he
did something or that he wasn't as bad on the
Palestinian That's why he makes the comments that he does
right about, Oh, we can't have anti Palestinian American rhetoric
(29:50):
out there either. He wants to have it both ways.
I think it's hard for him to get away with that,
but I I it's sometimes I remember the Democrats, we're
all about defund police, Clay in twenty twenty. Biden was
never defund police. He never he never once said we
should defund police or whatever. And you can point out, well,
hold on a second, your whole party saying that, why
(30:12):
aren't you calling them out different messages for different audiences.
If you know, it's like Rafat, what Arafat used to
say in Arabic a little different from what he used
to kind of mutter to people in English. Let me
tell you, hey, this is the reality. That's what Democrats
are doing. That they didn't put the trans Day of
Visibility into Spanish. Remember, they didn't translate it exactly literally,
that's what they're trying to pull off on this issue
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Trump was just in Michigan. He was lighting it up
there doing his thing. Remarkable. You got Trump campaigning and
Biden just barely sputtering along. You know, you would think
(33:09):
that this wouldn't even be a horse race, but we
have to assume it's gonna be very close, probably a
photo finish. As you can hear. I'm already getting ready
for the Kentucky Derby this weekend. We're playing with the
So if you see Clay in some big funny hat,
that will actually be him at the derby. I guess
the guy. Do we wear big funny hats?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Men? Well, no, men are not the hat people. Laura,
my wife has got two different hats that have arrived
at the house because we're driving up as soon as
the show's over tomorrow. It's not that bad of a
drive from Nashville to Louisville, and she is I don't
know that she's made a hat decision. It's gonna be
a last minute I'm certainly not being asked about this
at all. But she's got to decide what dressed it
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to wear, to wear, what dress to wear that fits
with the hat. Men in my experience typically don't wear hats,
but if you did, it would be like an old
school for Dora, something of that nature. And I just
hope the weather's going to be good. I hear that
we may have some rain related issues. The last time
I was there, I know I was there for this,
(34:09):
Nashville had the worst flood in five hundred years, about
fifteen years ago ish, and that happened the day of
the Kentucky Derby. So I drove back to Nashville late
that night and it was the whole city of Nashville
was coming undone.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
It rained a lot at the Derby that day. I've
never had a mint julip. Are they good?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
They're awful.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Really, I may lose I may lose a lot of
support in Kentucky. I know we're number one in Louisville
among many other places. I'm just gonna be honest with you.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I tried the min
julop and I said, this is the worst drink that
is famous that I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
This is going to go up there alongside your solo
male ice cream eating and flute player takes Mane. I
think the mint Julip crowd not going to be happy
with you at all over this.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Look.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I'm a big I'm a big old fashioned fan. I'm
not anti bourbon. I've been to the bourbon trail all
over Kentucky. I like whiskey. I'm not gonna alienate everybody.
I like the bluegrass state. My family is all from Kentucky.
My the Travis family is all from ewle and Berg County, Kentucky.
My grandfather came down to Nashville to work and du
(35:22):
pont during the Great Depression. So that's why we live
in Nashville now. So I've got all my great grandparents
are buried in the state of Kentucky. All my family
was from up there on my dad's side. Still have
a lot of family, you know, I have relatives really
to this day. We're in Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I'd have to ask my dad, but they're they're all
over there. We got we got a lot of Kentucky relatives.
It's a true story.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, we have one famous country music singer. Some people
listening to this may know him Merle Travis, who was
the most famous song is sixteen tons. That's about great mind.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
That's a great country you know, that's a great country
music singer name Travis.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Merle Travis was my like, you know, grandfather's uncle I think,
or her cousin or something like that. Anyway, that he's
from the same group in Muhlenberg County, Tennessee, so that
is where my family came from. Now doesn't change the
fact that mint julep overrated, not an enjoyable drink.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I think maybe the most overrated famous drink of an alcohol.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Respective you're in the mint julip that for you're letting
you get trampled by all the horses.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Here's the truth.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
If you drink enough of them, it eventually doesn't taste
that bad. But that's only because you're so drunk you
can't taste it anyre. Just if a mint julip goes
flying across the room or the track and uh sprays
all over clay, we're gonna know why.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
We definitely have lost the mint Jewlop sponsorship dollars. Here
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