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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Tyrese Maxy scored seven points in the final twenty five
seconds of regulation, finished with forty six as the seventy
six Ers surprise the New York Knicks in overtime. Tim
Bontemp's ESPN NBA reporter covering the series late night at
the Garden early morning on The Dan Patrick Show, Tim,
thanks for joining us. How would you describe the atmosphere
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pre game or right before tipoff?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I mean, Dan, I would say from then up until
the time out twenty eight point nine seconds ago, there
was a NonStop party at the Garden. It was the
first time in twenty five years, if they had won
the game, that the Knicks had closed out a team
at home in the playoffs, since Game six of the
Conference finals in nineteen ninety nine when the last went
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to the finals.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Everybody there felt like it was going to happen last night.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And when Deuce McBride hit that jumper to go up
six twenty four nine seconds ago, Nick Nurse called timeout,
and the entire time out, everybody in the building was
on their feet. The press box was shaking, People are
going crazy. Seemed like the whole thing was in the bag.
And then when the game ended and Tyre's had hit
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those shots and it went to overtime, the only noise
in the building was the PA system through the entire
three minute time out until overtime started.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Because everybody wasn't even booing.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
They just all looked like John Stewart in that picture
he tweeted out of him with Tyre's Maxy going by him,
of everyone just standing there with their mouths open, going,
how did we just see this happen again in reverse
from what happened in Game two ten days earlier.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
How do you explain this loss?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I don't know how I explained the series, Dan, Honestly,
the two teams are separated by two points. Over five games,
the Sixers have outscored the Knicks by two. Every game
has been close, every game has had something crazy happen
in it. When Tyree's hit the first shot, actually tweeted
is there a world where this could happen again? Because
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we had literally just seen the Knicks come back from
down five with twenty eight seconds ago. And to put
this into context for people, there's been there had been
three times in the last twenty five years that a
team had come back from down five in the final
thirty seconds and won a playoff game, and that it's
happened twice in the same building, in the same series
in ten days.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Like that sums up how absurd the series has been.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And as a neutron, just glad that it's still going
on because it's been incredibly fun to cover, and I'm
excited for Game six and Philly tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But I'm looking at the Knicks and we can all
agree they're will coached. But I would think you would say,
you know, contest the three, don't try to block the three, right,
Like that's all that's just common sense there. Contest, but
don't don't, you know, encroach on him, don't get close
to him, don't let him draw contact and then foul him.
(02:58):
You know, when he's coming up and he can take
a three, he makes two, we get the ball.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
We're still going to win this game.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So, like, which coaching decision, I don't know if it
was a coaching decision. I'm assuming these things are said
in the timeout.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, look, if you're gonna have a game and
like this, a lot of things have to go wrong.
So Mitchell Robinson should have just let Tyr's macksly shoot
a three. Basically, right, you're up seven with twenty eight
seconds ago. Who cares if he even makes a three.
He's got They have to score three times in theory
to come back and get in the game. So tyre
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you know, they're up six, he fouls them, he makes
the foul shot. Then they come down, they trap Josh Hart,
they foul him. Josh Hart's just got to make two
free throws. He splits the free throws, just like last
week Kyle Lowry split the free throws to forty five
seconds ago. Set up all the other craziness. Then Timms
was yelling for the Knicks to foul. But I give
them some sympathy on that, because Tyreese is super fast.
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He's coming flying up the court and frankly, he pulled
up from forty feet and hit an insane shot. But
and even then, the Knicks had the ball with eight
seconds left, chance to win the game. And the underrated
thing and everything that went on is Jalen Brunston gets
isolated on Nick Batoomb and Batum makes a fantastic play
and blocks the shot clean, doesn't foul him. Doesn't come
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close and make sure that the Knicks don't get the
game winner bar and sends the game to overtime. And
I actually like the fact that Tips did call time
out there, because with all the craziness that was going on,
they had a lot better chance of getting a clean
look just letting Jalen take the ball and go. So, yeah, look,
the Knicks had a lot of things they would like
to take back in that stretch, but they even came
out in overtime and hit Jalen. Brunston had five or
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six points in the first minute and they were up
five or six. It looked like they were gonna recover
and win the game, and the Sixers just found a
way to fight back again and somehow extend the series.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Joe Ellenby, It's tough to even say this with a
guy who had a triple double, but like it was
kind of a hollow triple double, nearly a quadruple double
with turnovers there. It felt like he was a detriment
to this team late in the game. But I have
to be respectful of what he's playing through to even
get to this point. So what do you expect out
(05:14):
of Joe ellenbiid As the series goes back to Philly.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I expect the bay Fell is going to be quite tired, uh,
because he's only got one day between these games. He
was very tired after the game last night. I mean
he played forty eight minutes, and look, he had a
horrible stretch in the fourth quarter where Nick Nurse again
left him in to start the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I think that's a mistake.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
When Embiid gets tired, he starts to make a lot
of careless decisions with the ball. He was flinging the
ball over the place to your point, almost had I
think he had nine turnovers in the game. But look,
the guy's playing through he's coming back from this knee injury.
He's dealing with Bell's palsy, which, if people don't know,
means that basically half your face is frozen. Not a
permanent thing, but it's obviously not ideal for somebody trying
(05:55):
to play basketball that their eye doesn't close.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And you know, he's also he had a migraine yesterday,
and he's just a huge guy that's not used to
playing forty eight minutes in games. So look, he thought
he played terribly yesterday. He was the first person to
say that, but he was able to summon it and
make three fantastic defensive plays in the final ninety seconds
of overtime that helped clinch the game for Philly. And
(06:22):
I think the biggest thing after the game when I
talked to him was for years, Joelle has sort of
jokingly lamented he hasn't had a Jamal Murray next to him, right,
It's always been jokichin Embiid who's the better player, And
he's always said, look, I don't have a guy that's
going for fifty in playoff games. And there's also been
a lot of debate about what his future is going
to be over the years. Where is he gonna play?
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Is he going to be in Philly's He's going to
go somewhere else. I would say after this series, and
especially after Game five, I think all that stuff could
be put to bed, and Joel Embiid, who has loved
play with Tyres Maxi has been his biggest supporter for
years now, is very happy to have a young, precocious
superstar next to him. Putting up forty six at the
Garden in Game five, reprising the role of Reggie Miller
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and you know, looking like a guy that should be
able to play with him for a long time to
come and be frankly, a pretty perfect partnership for the Sixers.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Tim Vontemps covers the NBA ESPN NBA Reporter covering the
seventy six Ers and the Knicks. Can either of these
teams go to the NBA Finals?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, I think they can, Dan, but that's more because
I think there's some chance that the Celtics could falter,
rather than I would say they're going to be favored
to get there. Whoever wins this series should win the
next round. I mean, obviously the Bucks are if they're
able to come back and beat the Pacers after the
Pacers somehow let them get back in the series last night,
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we'll see where their health status is at. But the
Knicks or Sixers, I think would be favored pretty clearly
to beat the Bucks or Pacers in the next round.
Then you're in the conference finals and you're one your
four wins away from the finals. And as we saw
in Miami the other night, Christas Porzingis messes up up
his calf, that's a tricky injury. He could be out
for a while and he's a critical part of what
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Boston does without him on the court. They get back
to the team they've been the last few playoffs, which
is very isolation heavy, taking a lot of threes, not
a lot of other options on offense. And while that
certainly should be good enough for Boston to win, it's
not a guarantee, as we saw last year with Miami's,
we've seen in the past with Celtics, and especially if
they play one of either a Philly team that's gone
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through the fire a couple of rounds and maybe exercise
and demons, or this Knicks team that is just big
and physical and super tough mentally and plays really hard.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Both of them I think.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Could give Boston a lot of trouble inside and potentially
make that a very competitive series.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Before I let you go, everybody seems to have an
opinion on Lebron. Lebron says he doesn't have an opinion yet,
but somehow that information got leaked, which I'm thinking it
got leaked by Lebron that it doesn't matter playing with
his son. Your thoughts on Lebron's future, what makes the
most sense?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I mean, I don't think there's really much at the
debate whether it makes sense or not. I think he's
clearly going to be with the Lakers. I'd be very
surprised if he's elsewhere. And look, the Lakers have spent
the past few years, you know, not putting all that
good of a team around Lebron. They've let a lot
of talent out the door. They lost to CACP two
years in a row. They could have had Katavius Calbo
(09:22):
Pope stay on their team. They traded him in the
Russell Westbrook trade, which is one of the worst trades
in recent memory. They could have kept alax Caruso and
did it. You know, They've made a lot of personnel mistakes.
They could have got Mike Conley in the trade they
got the ends of the Russell Mike Conley would have
been a huge difference maker for the Lakers. So I
think what makes the most sense for Lebron is probably
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to stay with the Lakers and for the Lakers to
make some smart personnel decisions this summer and upgrade the
roster around him, because if you have him and Anthony Davis,
that should be good enough to be a contender in
the West. And instead, as we've seen over the last
couple of years, the Lakers are still a clear level
below Denver. And as you look at Minnesota and Oklahoma
City and these other younger teams in the West, they're
(10:03):
only going up and the Lakers are either flat lined
or going the other way.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Good stuff, save travels to Philly. Thank you, Tim, Thanks Dan.
That's Tim bond Temps covering the NBA for the Mothership
and he'll be going to Philly Thursday night game five.
Give me an idea of what it's going to cost
to get into the seventy six ers next game in Philly.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Okay, this is vivid seats dot com. You you can
the get in price is a one hundred and fifty
eight dollars. That's the best price. Those are nosebleed seats.
But right now there's I'm looking at least a couple
thousand tickets are available for sale right now, over two
thousand fans are shopping for tickets. Those are likely Knicks fans.
Now Game seven, if it goes back to the nixt
(10:46):
MSG the get in price, the lowest get in price
is four hundred and fifty two dollars. How much for
court side seats? Game six? Seventy six Ers Nicks, well, are.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Those for sale because it feels like those are celebrities
I've got.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Yeah, they mostly are saved for celebrities, but there are
some floor seats in the baseline behind the basket. Two
baseline seats cost one five grand pretty close, it's uh
forty two.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I was wondering about this as I'm looking at the
celebrities there the Knicks game. At what point can you
tell a celebrity they're not as big of a celebrity
as they once were. Therefore somebody else might be taking
their seat where you don't get front row because somebody
that's somebody's job. When somebody's now you don't have John
(11:40):
Stewart doesn't call, you know, his assistant calls, or his
agent manager calls. But at what point can you say
that in a delicate way of somebody court side or
used to sit court side, you know, we we can't
have you know what, all the seats are taken up. Hey,
(12:01):
we have some seats up in the loge area. Yeah, Seaton.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yeah, it's like we have tickets for you, and then
when you get there you find out where they are.
They're like, oh, you know, I don't know if we
have any court side left.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Because that's where you now, they have a special green
room for the court side people. We get to go
back and have drinks, and you know, it's a little
fraternity back there. You imagine if you go, oh, now,
go back in the green Uh excuse me? Wait wait wait, no, no,
I'm always in here. Mmm not tonight, yeah yeah, Paul right.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
And you could get court side for the Hornets game,
but you can't get court side versus the Celtics. Like
it's like a sliding scale of a tougher opponent, harder
to get court side. We had David Spade, the comedian,
on a couple of years ago and you asked him
about this, and he said, it's like a litmus test of.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Where your career is.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Because if you call and you don't get a callback,
you might be between series. Then you get a new
hit series and now they're calling you to appear at
Lakers games, or you breeze right into front row seats.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well, I remember when we were going to get tickets
to the next game, and then I wasn't going to go,
and then all of a sudden we suddenly didn't have
tickets to the next game. PAULI has the email correspondence there.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Very nice gentlemen said he had five seats for us too.
It was a regular season good next game. It was
during the Carmelo Anthony era. Okay, and I said, oh, great, great,
and it was going back and forth, and the last
email was just want to assure you that Dan is
with you, guys, correct like he's doing his best, he'll
likely be there, and then they went radio silent.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
He's going to be there in spirit. Which it wasn't
like we asked for five court sides. It was just
like any five seats in the building. Yeah, doesn't matter,
yes time.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
It's not like I went from you were going to
be in the lows. Then we were kicked up to
the upper reserves. There was no seats at all.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, that's odd. Oh oh so Dan, Well Dan needs
to pick them up personally. Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And then I go, okay, I'll give you guys my
driver's life, since you can pick up the tickets there, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
For court side seats, so save you're Tracy Morgan and
Timothy Challomey, who's on fire right now, says hey, can
I get a court side seat? Do you go to
Tracy Morgan or do you just go to one of
those other celebrities that have him, like he's a staple
at the garden. Yes, do you go to somebody else
and say no, not Tracy, not Spike, not Ben Stillar,
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not Chris Rock. You just go some of the sometimes guys.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Well Timothy Charalome is gonna get tickets. He'll be courtside
last minute. Even Yes, he could walk in, you know
and just say hey, uh sorry, got a seat for me? Yes,
we do, Yes, we do. Uh you get up, yes, Paulin.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
That seems like a fascinating job, the person who is
the last line of defense for Nicks or Lakers tickets.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It sounds like it would be an interesting job because
you get to talk to the person who talks to
the celebrity.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
You have a ton of power.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Yeah, but the sliding scale of uh, you know, it's
an hour for game time. All my I have to
save two tickets in case blank plank calls.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I had asked Sandman.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I said, hey, you know, I'd love to go to
a Laker game, and then he said, I Danny, you
tell me. And then I said, all right, you pick one,
and then Sandman out of nowhere goes uh Danny Tomorrow
Night Lakers, and I go, wait, you got to give
me more of a heads up here.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Now I'm not in LA.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
He goes, all right, I'll get somebody else as Sandman
was courtside, and I was like, all right, that guy's
in my seat there. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
I did love the idea that like, not in LA.
And it's like, so, yeah, get here, So just get here, go.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
To the game, go home.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Deal. Well it's like getting invited to Tom Brady's roast.
And then I said, well, I'm not going to be
in LA. And then I realized I'm just going to
be in the audience there, which is fine. I don't
I didn't want to roast Tom Brady, but I was
trying to find out if they wanted me to roast,
therefore they would want me in New York and it
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was this Sunday night. Then I would go, but I
don't want to be on the dais. I saw who's
going to be up there. Now. I got information two
weeks ago with a person who's involved in this, and
she reached out and I've known her a long time
from the days of the espies, and she just said, hey,
Tom's getting roasted. It's going to be live. Do you
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want to go? And I'm like, uh wow, that'd be awesome,
but I won't be in la. She goes, Okay, no worries.
Just wanted to reach out, thought of you. And then
I realized who's going. You're gonna have Gronk there, and
Edelman's going to be there. Belichick, I believe, is going
to be there, so the right people are going to
be roasting him. And so I'll watch it like I'm
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curious what Belichick says in a roast about Tom Brady
because is he going to have his own material?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And then if somebody's going to have a joke and
beun Check's delivering it, it just seems really odd. Edelman
is going to crush Brady. I already know that Edelman will.
Of all of those guys, Edelman's the one. He's the sniper,
that's a fellow too, who knows where the bodies are buried,
so to speak.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yes, but he will be great. Gronk will be Gronk.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's just I think Drew Bledsoe is going to be
there as well, So I think you know that's kind
of the grouping there.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, poem.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
What's awkward though at these roasts are maybe not awkward
but great is they make fun of each other too
as they Yes, they go up there, they roast the
roasters before they get to the main target. Yes, that's
where Belichexi might have a hard time.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I just can't imagine Bill gone. And I remember the
time that Tom deflated the football and the guy was
named the deflator.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I mean, did you see that picture at the combine too?
Look at that? Who would draft that? Chobby loser?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Look at that? If you call that eye candy?
Speaker 8 (18:05):
Yes, well they give him fake laps like the Patriots
media would out.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Of a of course, of course, yes, yes Morman.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
Does Nick Foles get an invite?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
No?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Eli man he's in I heard is.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
If sources they have to have Eli bring both those
Super Bowl trophies out. Just put them on the days. Yeah,
have maybe a cape, you know, and he walks out.
He's got both those super Bowl trophies.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Just put him right there on the day.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
Is t shirt that says two and oh on it?
Speaker 11 (18:41):
Nothing else?
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Well, he had pants on too, Well, doesn't have to
let me take a break.
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up Season three of Welcome to Wrexham. It premieres with
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two episodes tomorrow. That's a ten Eastern end Pacific on FX,
also available the next on Hulu. We got a chance
to speak to the owners of Wrexham AFC and the
executive producers have welcome to Wrexham, Ryan Reynolds and Rob McIlhaney.
We talked to them a couple of weeks ago and
here is our conversation. It's a handsome contest. And I
(20:16):
think I'm kicking ass right now.
Speaker 13 (20:19):
You sure are sure?
Speaker 9 (20:22):
Are all right?
Speaker 13 (20:23):
I didn't wear my Monster Energy drink colors today. I'm
glad you did.
Speaker 9 (20:27):
Do you have a.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Problem with that?
Speaker 14 (20:29):
No, No, thats a solid sweatshirt. Actually most I do
not own a neutral colored sweatshirt anymore.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
It just feels like we're sett in the tone here,
and I don't know if I like the tone that's
being set.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I would give you a yellow card right now, right, Yeah.
Speaker 13 (20:43):
I know much.
Speaker 14 (20:44):
I know better than to anger, mister Dan Patrick. Okay,
I would never never even dare.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Okay, all right, now, let's play nice, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 13 (20:56):
I believe what you're wearing is brave. Now, that's worse
than what I said.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
That's a shot too. That's a shot too.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
It's not what are you talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I could kick both of your asses if I wanted to.
Speaker 11 (21:08):
I do not doubt that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Let's not do that. Okay, all right? How close did
this almost not happened?
Speaker 13 (21:16):
Rob uh on the entire endeavor? Yeah? Uh, not at all.
Speaker 15 (21:23):
I mean I think it was it was something we
were going to figure out how to do.
Speaker 13 (21:28):
It was just a matter of how to do it.
Speaker 15 (21:32):
But once the pieces started coming together, it was it
was clear that it was that it was going to happen.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Ryan, your best day has been what with this this club?
Speaker 13 (21:44):
My best day?
Speaker 14 (21:46):
You know, it's you know, the automatically I think you
might think that it was being promoted.
Speaker 13 (21:50):
But but I have two best days that are tied.
Speaker 14 (21:52):
One is I think when the club drew against Sheffield
I just the the you know, there's a Championship League
club that went up to the Premier League that same season,
and and you know, the kind of heart and soul
that we saw in that field that day was one
of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. And then
the other moment I think was probably Ben Foster save
(22:13):
against Notts County. Uh you know, and also you know
I'd been pretty to Ben doing an interview a year
before where he said, they said, what would be your
fictionalized greatest moment in a football game that you could
ever dream up, no matter how ridiculous, And he described
that moment I think to the letter exactly, which happened
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to him a year later, you know, coming out of
retirement like that. That was I don't think I've ever
been that emotional in my life.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Worst day, Rob, Oh.
Speaker 15 (22:43):
Wow, I would say that that loss, the loss against
Grimsby Town in the playoff at the end of the
first season was was pretty low.
Speaker 13 (22:58):
That was That was That was pretty low.
Speaker 15 (23:00):
I would I would probably have to rank that as
one of the worst days of the of the experience.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
When did you guys decide or did you decide to
ship the focus from you two to the actual team,
the actual club.
Speaker 13 (23:13):
From the outside?
Speaker 14 (23:15):
Yeah, that was that was That was the sure thing,
mainly because and and and it wasn't because.
Speaker 13 (23:22):
We were being falsely modest.
Speaker 14 (23:23):
That the real the thing that is so compelling about
this town is its inhabitants and people, I mean, and
their relationship to this club and how so many of
their benchmark moments, hopes, dreams, and feelings are Uh. That
corollary between that and the club is just unbelievable. So
and and also the stories are just falling off the
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trees out there. I mean, it's it's incredible to walk
around talk to people.
Speaker 13 (23:49):
You just you can't believe the kind of character they have.
Speaker 15 (23:52):
It's really and we knew that that would maybe draw people,
that that we would be able to draw people to
at least attention to to to come and watch the
first episode, but that it really would get old very
quickly just watching the two of us bumble around, and
and ultimately those weren't the stories we wanted to tell.
We wanted to tell the stories that we believe in
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as a sports fan. That most sports fans don't understand
is that actually sports are not about triumph. They're actually
about loss and despair and and and because that's the
vast majority of what being a fan is, and how
do you overcome adversity and if you can transcend sport
(24:34):
and talk about that as people are going through cancer
or going through difficult things, mental issues in their lives,
or literally just trying to get through the day on
a basic wage through as the cost of living is
being raised, we thought that would be a much more
compelling show and that and.
Speaker 14 (24:53):
A Fish out of Water is really a sea plot.
You know how you're going to can tape you can't.
Sustainability isn't there with that sort of mindset, So yeah,
it was it no brainer.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, also, we look at sports movies like Bull Durham
or Hoosiers and they're not really sports movies. It's about relationships.
In trying to capture those relationships is why we invest
Like I want to invest in somebody that I would
never invest in, and that's what you guys were able
to capture. Like there was a Leeds United documentary. I
(25:23):
watched it Sunderland until I die. I watched it. I'm like,
I don't even care, but I cared so damn much
about it. And that's like you guys go from scripted,
this is nonscripted. How much do you can you control
anything or do you want to control anything?
Speaker 9 (25:41):
With that?
Speaker 14 (25:42):
One thing I could speak today is that you know
Wrexham is is. Yeah, it's a town in North Wales,
but it's also a town in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 13 (25:50):
It's a town in Saskatchewan, Canada.
Speaker 14 (25:53):
It's it's Australia, it's Brazil, it's all, it's everywhere. I mean,
there's working class to people see themselves in that. That's
story to me is quite quite evergreen.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (26:04):
But you know the thing that I I, I probably
you know, will never ever forget is that first step,
that first time we went to Wrexham Because what I think,
the thing that's most insane about the story is we
couldn't go there because it was the apex of the pandemic.
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We couldn't actually go there, so we had sort of
assumed stewardship of this club before ever you know, touching
a blade of grass in the racecourse, which is you know,
this is the most financially irresponsible endeavor you would ever
possibly find. It's just absolute idiocy on paper. But you know,
we don't know that much about financial investments to say.
(26:45):
What we do love, and something we've loved our whole
adult lives is emotional investment. And emotional investment can kind
of create that moat around something. And I feel like
that mode is around Wrexham and and and it is
special for that reason.
Speaker 15 (26:58):
People asked people ask me all the time to like, well,
are one of my favorite documents sports documentaries? And like
what are the biggest influences in making the show, and
then I'll say, it's actually not a documentary, and then
they'll say, oh, it's got to be rocky, because we
make a lot of rocky references.
Speaker 13 (27:13):
And clearly there's a lot of rocky in my life
and a lot of rocky in the story.
Speaker 15 (27:17):
But the truth of the matter is that the movie
that has been the most influential and the one that
I want the show to feel most like, is Field
of Dreams, which is not a movie about baseball.
Speaker 13 (27:29):
Of course, it's you.
Speaker 11 (27:30):
Know, of course not.
Speaker 15 (27:31):
It's about a father and a son, and that is
exactly the story that we want to.
Speaker 13 (27:35):
Tell about every movie I've ever produced.
Speaker 14 (27:37):
I've stolen the score from Field of Dreams, and that's
been our temp score for the whole thing. And I
realized the last couple of years that it's just cheating.
Nothing will ever live up to it, So stop doing it.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
So I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
They are the owners of Wrexham AFC. We're talking to
Ryan Reynolds, Rob mclihanny joining us. Season three of FX
is Welcome to Rexham premiers with two episodes on May
second at ten pm Eastern in Pacific on FX, available
the next Day on Hulu. If you guys played in
an exhibition match, how would you fare?
Speaker 14 (28:10):
Oh god, if the exhibition match was in the lobby
of a hospital, I think that'd be all right.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
I mean, you know, given.
Speaker 14 (28:16):
How close the proximity is for medical attention. But no,
what position would I play?
Speaker 15 (28:20):
I mean, I think the thing that because you just
can't help it, You're like, Wow, I'm in pretty good shape.
Speaker 13 (28:27):
Maybe I could keep up a little bit.
Speaker 15 (28:30):
And at the end of one of the games, we
had Charlie Day and the rest of the cast of
Sunny come out and the guys that already played the game,
and what they do is they warm down at the
end of the games, which is tragic that they just
run six miles at full speed, but they still have
to warm down.
Speaker 13 (28:44):
So they're running a very slow pace.
Speaker 15 (28:46):
And Charlie's like, I'm gonna sprint with these guys to
see if I can keep up, and they're running at
half speed and he is running at full speed and
he could barely make it across the pitch.
Speaker 14 (28:57):
The greatest song ever writ and was the sound of
Charlie Day's hamstring snap for the center line at the
Wrexham Racecourse ground like a beautiful harp.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Uh Ryan, are you going to have Blake maybe be
your Taylor Swift with the franchise here?
Speaker 14 (29:18):
Well, there is only one Taylor Swift and there will
never be another Taylor Swift. But so but but but
Blake is as emotionally invested as anyone.
Speaker 13 (29:26):
I mean, she's spent a ton of matches.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Well, can you get Taylor to show up maybe, as
you know, that would be a coup.
Speaker 13 (29:33):
Uh yeah, I would love that. Actually, I know for
sure the Kelsey Brothers are coming out to a game.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
So yeah, that's season four.
Speaker 13 (29:40):
That's our that's our door plan. That's yeah, that's how
you how you lure the Queen Bee?
Speaker 9 (29:46):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Are you still trying to buy a hockey team? Ryan, No, sir, No.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
Not at all.
Speaker 14 (29:52):
Ottawa Uh no, uh No, I love Ottawa. I spent
time there as a kid. I lived in Vannier. Uh
And but no, that is a that is a not
not happening.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
All right, So just one franchise is all you can have?
Speaker 14 (30:07):
This is I mean, look, I wake up in the
morning eighty percent of the emails in my inbox have
to do Wrexham. I mean, this is a I'm chewing
and blowing bubbles with Wrexham all the livelong day.
Speaker 13 (30:16):
I don't there's nothing, there's no room for anything else.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But if you ever said, honey, I just bought a midfielder, Like,
do you ever have one of those days where you know, wait,
what are you doing? Ah, I got a striker?
Speaker 14 (30:27):
You know, Well, it's like beer, you're borrowing it really
Uh yeah, I don't think you're buying or owning, but yeah.
Speaker 15 (30:35):
But yeah, but we are investing heavily into those players.
Speaker 13 (30:38):
But yes, it's the same.
Speaker 15 (30:40):
It's it's actually a lot like golf, where like you
could have as everybody knows that plays golf, nobody cares
about how you played golf, and so I'll come home
and I'll be like, honey, i shot an eighty and
she's like, oh my god, do the dishes.
Speaker 13 (30:54):
And I'm like I get it. So but it's a
similar thing where I'm like, honey, we just we just
like signed a midfielder and she's like, oh my god, congratulations.
She's actually really legitimately excited. So that that's a really
a really good feeling there. She's very much invested in the.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Pand well, hopefully you guys are you still acting. You
guys gonna actor, You've given up acting.
Speaker 13 (31:16):
So I'm sorry, Dan, We're Oh, please wrap.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Well that's a cliffhanger.
Speaker 15 (31:24):
Let me say one Let me say one thing before
you go, because I've met you in person many times,
and I've said this to you already, but I'd like
to say it on your show, and I'm sure you
you hear this from so many people, but you are
such a huge part of my generation and so many
people younger than me and maybe a little bit older,
in bringing the story of sports to life in a
(31:46):
way that I'd never seen before. To bring you literally
created it the comedy, but also the excitement, and to
present it in a way to a whole new generation
of sporting fan I've believe actually like change sports. And
so I think that you, in particular have just been
(32:07):
a beacon and a guiding force.
Speaker 13 (32:10):
For us to be able to do what we do.
One of the great storytellers that I know we're run
out of time a long time ago.
Speaker 14 (32:14):
But I also want to say that I was so
nervous the first time I got to meet you, and
is at Super Bowl twenty sixteen in San Francisco, and
I sat on your show there, and I was utterly
geeked out because you've been one of the great sports
storytellers of a generation, and I'm we're very grateful to
have got to actually sit down in the hot seat
with you.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Don't like Rob was sincere, You weren't as sincere with that, Ryan, No, I'm.
Speaker 14 (32:37):
Just competing, Rob. I wasn't at Super Bowl in twenty sixteen.
That was it has been affleck Okay.
Speaker 13 (32:44):
I like that. I love that you can't take a compliment,
just like just like we can't.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
So that's fine.
Speaker 13 (32:49):
You can just deflect.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
You just defly.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You go ahead, have a great day, everybody, and good
luck to season three.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Thank you guys, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
That's Ryan Reynolds, Rob Mackwill Hanning in three of FX
is welcome Direction, yea, the moderator interrupts us.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
His face Ryan Reynolds face.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
I'm sorry, Dan, We're at time his face was absolutely
pit That was priceless.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Welcome Direction tomorrow at ten Eastern and Pacific on FX.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yes, Paul, do you remember this happened a long long
time ago. We Fritzy worked for like six months to
book Tom Cruise, and we got Tom Cruise on and
We're four minutes into the innury six minutes in and
the moderator jumps. He goes, Tom has to move on
to entertainment night or whatever. And you go whoa, whoa, whoa,
and Tom Cruise jumps. He goes, We're good. I'm good
with Dan, Dan, go as long as you want. And
(33:40):
you did another like eight minutes with Tom Cruise.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's cool interrupting us. We were on a roll.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
And then Rob Rob I've had I've had private conversations
with about, you know, doing some business together, and this
is a couple of years ago, and he's always been
very nice. But I thought that he was being sincere.
I thought Ryan was maybe acting like he was sincere,
and that's why I called him out.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
But it was good acting.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Though it's tough to be the second guy, yes, in
that it's tough to be sincere after following the person
who seems more sincere.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It would have been nice if Ryan started it instead
of Rob. I think Ryan was sincere.
Speaker 9 (34:23):
I do.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
I think he just unfortunately was second man.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
In well, the only actor in this room. I would
say I think he was acting sincere. But he's a
good actor.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Todd.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Were you buying then?
Speaker 8 (34:38):
I was, But I understand the thought of the piggybacking thing.
Where whoever said it first? We've had that here too.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
You do that show? Who say good show and that
go yeah, good show to youre too?
Speaker 16 (34:48):
What is that?
Speaker 9 (34:48):
Very man?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, your nickname is piggyback. That's what you do. You
just piggyback somebody else I miss piggyback.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show week days at a I'm Me Stern six
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Speaker 2 (35:06):
Proud of the podcast platform that we have at Danpatrick
dot com. We have a couple of new podcasts up
there and they come from the co founders of John
Boy Media, Jimmy O'Brien, the founder of John Boy Media,
host of Jimmy's Three Things podcast, and Jake Storiellie, co
founder of John Boy Media, host of Wake and Jake podcast.
(35:29):
As we welcome them to The Dan Patrick Show and
The Dan Patrick Show platform for podcast. Jimmy, let me
start with you. For those unaware of John Boy Media,
explain how all of this got started.
Speaker 17 (35:43):
Well, it started as the two of us just talking
Yankees together because I was living in California and he
was in Dallas and we were living with girlfriends at
the time and had no one else to talk Yankees about.
And then the Yankees were good in twenty seventeen, so
we got an audience because people wanted to in and
from there it's just steamrolled and snowballed into anything we
(36:05):
really wanted to be and come and now we're a
company of fifty people with multiple shows and doing stuff
we never thought we'd be doing. So it's it's been
awesome to have an audience that has allowed us to
get to the spot.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
When did you guys go national?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What was the moment where all of a sudden we
were hearing more about John Boy.
Speaker 17 (36:25):
Twenty nineteen was the moment where we started doing coverage
of the whole league, not just Yankees. And then we
had a couple things that ticked up and ticked up
and ticked up, and then the biggest one was, you know,
hopping on the astros cheating scandal of twenty nineteen and
making videos about that, and that got our name out
to a whole audience. We had been pretty big in
the New York scene up until that, point. And then
(36:48):
I think that helped us because we launched Talking Baseball,
We brought Trevor Plufe, a former player, on, and we
were covering the whole league after.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
That, Jake, what was it about it? With that Astro scandal?
All of a sudden it started to resonate with people.
When did you know you guys had something?
Speaker 16 (37:05):
Well, man, I always say it should be like the
case study of new media because the Athletic was on
it and it was behind a paywall, so you know,
everyone read the article and was like, oh wow, Astros
or cheat and ooh, and then Jim posts the video
and you see a picture on the mounds like something's
(37:26):
not right here and I don't know. I mean there's
so many times in different sports things where you see
the video and it changes how you think.
Speaker 10 (37:33):
And yeah, that left sports well.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
We consume video. We can understand video as opposed to
reading a story. Sometimes the story can be confusing, and
then you're trying to visualize that you guys took all
the guesswork out of it. It's like here it is.
Now you decide when did you hear from baseball or
the Astros or anybody else?
Speaker 11 (37:56):
Lawyers, God, no, never heard from anyone, you know.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (38:00):
Rosenthal reached out and he was, I would I'm always
nervous because people credit us for breaking the story, which
I used quotes because we didn't. Evan Drelich and Rosenthal
did years of grunt uh grunt work to get people
on the record. What I did is that just made
it tangible and showed the video proof. And Rosenthal actually
reached out and said, I was Actually it was like, uh,
(38:21):
weight off my shoulders to see us be backed because
it was kind of they were, you know, throwing that
out there and it could have been scoffed at and say, yeah, right,
who cares.
Speaker 11 (38:30):
So that was nice to hear from them.
Speaker 17 (38:32):
But MLB astros, we've never never reached out about that
or at that time.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Now would you how would you label your site because
there's there's comedy in there. I mean, you're having fun,
but you guys should die hard baseball fans. So is
it a baseball website?
Speaker 17 (38:50):
Well, it started baseball, for sure. We've grown into other areas.
We have guys that cover football, we have some lifestyle stuff.
We've even had like our own section of creating our
own own sports in a warehouse that is more like
reality TV show.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
So we've been able to do everything we wants.
Speaker 17 (39:05):
Definitely, baseball baseball adjacent Adjacent is the like crux of
what we're doing. And then it's fan led, so we're
not trying to be unbiased in any way. We're trying
to be very honest and let you know, you know,
we're Yankees fans, so people get upset about that, but
we were not going to hide it or change our thoughts.
Speaker 11 (39:25):
So it's fan led media.
Speaker 17 (39:26):
We used to say, but I don't know, it's uh analysis,
but taking ourselves pretty lightly.
Speaker 11 (39:32):
I think that would how I sum it up.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Courtesy of John Boy. We have two podcasts up at
Dan Patrick dot com. Jimmy's Three Things and then there's
Wake and Jake. All Right, Jake, so what can we
expect with your podcast on I'm Jakey.
Speaker 16 (39:49):
And Man, I'm sports. I grew up in Connecticut. I
grew up with ESPN in the backyard. I was like
raised by old sports centers. So in a way like
I'm taught, you know, we're a family that man. I
obviously we're so deep into baseball that I do lean
into baseball. That's what a lot of people look at us.
But I'm I love sports man. So I'm especially this
(40:11):
time of year with NBA playoffs going, with NHL playoffs going,
Yukon hoisting another banner.
Speaker 10 (40:16):
Obviously, i just love sports.
Speaker 16 (40:19):
So if someone's looking to talk sports and kind of
I'm a very I'm just a naturally friendly person.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
I like people.
Speaker 16 (40:26):
I think there's a lot of people that don't like
saying that. The a joke I make a lot is
like I'm the perfect last invite to a wedding because
I'm just like friendly. I'm gonna have a couple of drinks,
dance a little bit. So it's kind of like that
with sports.
Speaker 11 (40:39):
He's gonna dance a lot. There's a lie at the end.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
There, okay, and then Jimmy's three things.
Speaker 11 (40:46):
So that's heavy baseball.
Speaker 17 (40:47):
Basically, I'm sitting down and talking to the audience. It's
just me in a room, and I like to deep
dive into whatever the biggest story is and really dive
into the weeds, and sometimes the audience is on the
journey with me. So I did a big one the
other day about the Mets not sliding into second base
to break up double plays. When McNeil got mad, and
instead of just having the surface level reaction to it,
(41:10):
I like to actually go like, wait, does.
Speaker 11 (41:12):
McNeil break up double plays? And then oh, does do
the Mets break up double plays?
Speaker 17 (41:17):
And going really into the weeds. So it's kind of
watching a crazy baseball fan get lost within weeds. And
then I pull myself out and move on to the
next topic as quickly as I can.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
So when Aaron Judge slides into second and he's got
his you know, the the mitt on his sliding, mit
there ofnmit, you guys react to that?
Speaker 11 (41:36):
Yeah, that's that's definitely one that you know.
Speaker 17 (41:37):
I'd like to go find all the footage of him
sliding when it's a double play, all the footage of
him sliding when he's just stealing second? Is that a
different slide? What about a hustle doubles? Is the hand
up going there? So that's that's the type.
Speaker 11 (41:49):
Of stuff that I do on Jimmys Three Things.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
But is it you guys against the world when it
comes to your opinions? Do you want people athletes to
agree with you and people to agree with you or
would you rather stir it up and be sort of
we don't mind being villains here.
Speaker 17 (42:06):
I think we can have fun when we want. We
don't really lean into being poking the bear just to
poke the bear. If I have an opinion that I
think will stir people up, I'll definitely do it.
Speaker 11 (42:17):
But we're not aiming for that.
Speaker 17 (42:18):
It's uh, you know, I always tell you why I
couldn't even dress up for Halloween. I can't not be myself,
so I can't do the whole I'm going to be
a contrarian just to do it stuff. So it's you know,
I really dislike the Rays. I have fun poking that bear,
but I truly don't like them. Why all because I
can't get into that, but I they just you know,
(42:41):
they brag about not paying their players any money and
they all get injured and it never actually won.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
When's the last time the Yankees won? Yeah, well they
win games.
Speaker 17 (42:54):
But the same thing about the Yankees too. I think
that's the other thing is everyone's like, well the Yankees,
and we're like, we know we we we are well aware.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Do you want and let's say you could have a
current baseball player on your podcast.
Speaker 16 (43:10):
It's tough because we always juggle the are they gonna
be real? Like Aaron Judge obviously we're Yankee fans, and
if we could get a real combo with Judge and
he's gonna let it eat with us like, that would
be awesome. But you know, Aaron Judge kind of lives
by the Yankee way and he gives he gives the
right answer, So that's we We always have a lot
of agencies talk about sending players our way, and they're like,
(43:34):
you know, what do you want? We want the players
who are gonna be real, Like, let's let's chop it
up and talk.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
So you wouldn't want Geter on the podcast.
Speaker 17 (43:42):
I'd be embarrassed of how that I would look to
him and Tory are the only two people I were
I've seen in the same room and I kind of
melted like a little boy.
Speaker 11 (43:51):
So, uh, I would love to have Geter on, But I.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Bet he's not gonna say anything.
Speaker 17 (43:56):
Now he's not, but for my just for like a
personal thing. Oh okay, you know, business wise, I'd get
Otani any day. I don't care if he doesn't say anything,
that's gonna it's gonna lead to some new new viewership.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
What about a Rod?
Speaker 10 (44:08):
Who Rod?
Speaker 16 (44:10):
We've we we cross paths with Rod briefly we have
a guy, Joe's McFly that that works at our company.
He's uh, he famously went viral the uh when Devers
clip Chapman for that first time when Devers was a kid.
He's still like in commercials and stuff for it. And
he's he's pretty close with a Rod.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
Uh. I talked to Rod, but you never know where
that's gonna land.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
They are the co founders of John Boy Media and
there's two podcasts available, Jimmy's Three Things and Waken Jake.
The podcast so twice weekly for that when the baseball show.
Jimmy's Three Things where three things of the week that
he wants to talk about. It's great to have you
guys on board, and uh, have fun, have fun with this.
Speaker 11 (44:57):
Yeah, thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
It's the founder of john Boy Media, host of Jimmy's
Three Things podcast, Jimmy O'Brien and Jake store Ellie, co
founder of John Boy Media, host of Wakenjake podcast available
at dan Patrick dot com.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
And if you go back to.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
When we first really saw John Boy Media in the
national stage was with the Astros in the cheating scandal,
because there were some really good baseball reporters who came
out with the story, but it felt like it was
a little more complex. John Boy Media just sort of said,
let's pair this down.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You can hear them banging on garbage cans. They you know,
So the audio part of it, the visual part of it,
played such a large role, and then you were able
to go, oh, John Boy Media. So they made a
name for themselves back with that cheating scandal.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Yes, Paul, and we played the clip I remember on
the show that morning, and it was almost like, oh,
you know, if you accuse someone stealing something from a
song or artist, you're like, well maybe, and then you
play him side by side. Like the article on sports
ill strat I had lots of great detail on the
Athletic about the science dealing. But John Boy, when you
saw it, you're like, oh, there's no doubt, there's no doubt,
(46:08):
there's no benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, when you're listening and then you hear it, you're like, oh, wow,
it's so obvious. Let me get a couple of phone
calls in here, Steven in Valencia, Hi, Steven Woods on
your mind today?
Speaker 18 (46:23):
Adp Let me make sure I'm not getting any fuzz,
but yeah, I wanted to stick with the MVPs. Not
in the Hall of Fame discussion, especially with baseball. Okay,
I'm not sure if it's been brought up, but a
very classy gentleman I think you would love because he
every time I've had a chance to talk to him,
(46:43):
he just makes you feel like he remembers your conversations.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
And he's too famous to do that. But it would
be Don Newcombe.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, former picture. Yeah, good call. I
thought you were going to say Barry Bonds. You know
he remembers all your conversation, talks to the little.
Speaker 9 (47:00):
People is.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I think you'll get that random MVP in baseball, but
you don't get that in basketball or football, at least
modern day football from maybe the.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
Late seventies early eighties.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
On basketball, the same way baseball, you could have a
magical year like Roger Maris won the MVP when he
hit sixty one home runs.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
But that was it.
Speaker 13 (47:29):
One.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Gonzales won two MVPs, but he was involved in the
the steroid reports that came out stories.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yes, yes, Mark.
Speaker 9 (47:36):
And like George Bell and Ken Kammanitty had MVP awards.
Huh they had a good year.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
Yeah, Ken Kamanity, that was under suspicion as well. They
see did Roger Merris win two MVPs?
Speaker 6 (47:55):
And I thought back to back because he went to
them the Cardinals or Kansas City to Theyankees. Yeah, but
you're right back to back. Nineteen sixty with the Yankees,
he was MVP. Nineteen sixty one MVP with the Yankees.
He hit thirty nine homers to win it, and then
he hit sixty one homers to win it.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
And then the year he hit sixty one. I think
Mickey Mantle hit fifty four home runs. Michel Cabrera has
two MVPs. See, I thought that Mike Trout and Miguel
Cabrera were similar. Now, Cabrera won a World Series, but
I mean Cabrera's offensive numbers are crazy. But two MVPs
(48:34):
and then he's not playing with the Tigers anymore, is he?
Speaker 18 (48:38):
No?
Speaker 9 (48:38):
I think he retired. What do you got he's got
a triple crown.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, I mean he's he had a that's where everybody said, oh,
he's the next Mike Trout's the next Mickey Mantle. Well, okay, maybe,
but I would aspire to be Miguel Cabrera because he
did win a World Series title, a triple crown, probably
had a couple of batting titles. There, had five hundred
home runs three thousand, and that's where you you kind
(49:02):
of start there of great right handed hitters of all time,
where you want to get to that platform.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Cabrera played five years with Florida, then
he went to Detroit for the next fifteen or sixteen,
and he had seasons of three forty four, three thirty three,
forty eight, three thirty eight, four batting titles in five seasons.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Dang, nutty, dang.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
Yeah, when he was at his peak. His bad seasons
were like two ninety four.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, because Trout I think had ten home runs so
far this year eight were solo and he was batting
like two twenty. So it wasn't, you know, the start
of a magical year here. But now out indefinitely. Yeah,
Paul Poolholse's numbers. People should just look at him every
once in a while those ten years, Oh god, I
mean average and power, I mean yeah, three fifty nine
(49:50):
and forty three homers. I mean it was different. Yeah,
it was just you were looking and then but the
guy came out of nowhere. That's always what's amazing. It's like,
how did nobody spot this guy being this good?
Speaker 11 (50:05):
Draft?
Speaker 9 (50:07):
Yes. Mark Cabrera also went to the World Series with
the Tigers in twenty twelve. Okay, okay, did some damage
on bullde That's
Speaker 5 (50:15):
Pretty good, pretty good career.
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Tyrese Maxy scored seven points in the final twenty five
seconds of regulation, finished with forty six as the seventy
six Ers surprise the New York Knicks in overtime. Tim
Bontemp's ESPN NBA reporter covering the series late night at
the Garden early morning on The Dan Patrick Show, Tim,
thanks for joining us. How would you describe the atmosphere
(00:27):
pre game or right before tipoff?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I mean, Dan, I would say from then up until
the time out twenty eight point nine seconds ago, there
was a NonStop party at the Garden. It was the
first time in twenty five years, if they had won
the game, that the Knicks had closed out a team
at home in the playoffs, since Game six of the
Conference finals in nineteen ninety nine when the last went
(00:52):
to the finals.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Everybody there felt like it was going to happen last night.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And when Deuce McBride hit that jumper to go up
six twenty four nine seconds ago, Nick Nurse called timeout,
and the entire time out, everybody in the building was
on their feet. The press box was shaking, People are
going crazy. Seemed like the whole thing was in the bag.
And then when the game ended and Tyre's had hit
(01:17):
those shots and it went to overtime, the only noise
in the building was the PA system through the entire
three minute time out until overtime started.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Because everybody wasn't even booing.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
They just all looked like John Stewart in that picture
he tweeted out of him with Tyre's Maxy going by him,
of everyone just standing there with their mouths open, going,
how did we just see this happen again in reverse
from what happened in Game two ten days earlier.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
How do you explain this loss?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I don't know how I explained the series, Dan, Honestly,
the two teams are separated by two points. Over five games,
the Sixers have outscored the Knicks by two. Every game
has been close, every game has had something crazy happen
in it. When Tyree's hit the first shot, actually tweeted
is there a world where this could happen again? Because
(02:06):
we had literally just seen the Knicks come back from
down five with twenty eight seconds ago. And to put
this into context for people, there's been there had been
three times in the last twenty five years that a
team had come back from down five in the final
thirty seconds and won a playoff game, and that it's
happened twice in the same building, in the same series
in ten days.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Like that sums up how absurd the series has been.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And as a neutron, just glad that it's still going
on because it's been incredibly fun to cover, and I'm
excited for Game six and Philly tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But I'm looking at the Knicks and we can all
agree they're will coached. But I would think you would say,
you know, contest the three, don't try to block the three, right,
Like that's all that's just common sense there. Contest, but
don't don't, you know, encroach on him, don't get close
to him, don't let him draw contact and then foul him.
(02:58):
You know, when he's coming up and he can take
a three, he makes two, we get the ball.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
We're still going to win this game.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So, like, which coaching decision, I don't know if it
was a coaching decision. I'm assuming these things are said
in the timeout.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, look, if you're gonna have a game and
like this, a lot of things have to go wrong.
So Mitchell Robinson should have just let Tyr's macksly shoot
a three. Basically, right, you're up seven with twenty eight
seconds ago. Who cares if he even makes a three.
He's got They have to score three times in theory
to come back and get in the game. So tyre
(03:35):
you know, they're up six, he fouls them, he makes
the foul shot. Then they come down, they trap Josh Hart,
they foul him. Josh Hart's just got to make two
free throws. He splits the free throws, just like last
week Kyle Lowry split the free throws to forty five
seconds ago. Set up all the other craziness. Then Timms
was yelling for the Knicks to foul. But I give
them some sympathy on that, because Tyreese is super fast.
(03:58):
He's coming flying up the court and frankly, he pulled
up from forty feet and hit an insane shot. But
and even then, the Knicks had the ball with eight
seconds left, chance to win the game. And the underrated
thing and everything that went on is Jalen Brunston gets
isolated on Nick Batoomb and Batum makes a fantastic play
and blocks the shot clean, doesn't foul him. Doesn't come
(04:19):
close and make sure that the Knicks don't get the
game winner bar and sends the game to overtime. And
I actually like the fact that Tips did call time
out there, because with all the craziness that was going on,
they had a lot better chance of getting a clean
look just letting Jalen take the ball and go. So, yeah, look,
the Knicks had a lot of things they would like
to take back in that stretch, but they even came
out in overtime and hit Jalen. Brunston had five or
(04:42):
six points in the first minute and they were up
five or six. It looked like they were gonna recover
and win the game, and the Sixers just found a
way to fight back again and somehow extend the series.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Joe Ellenby, It's tough to even say this with a
guy who had a triple double, but like it was
kind of a hollow triple double, nearly a quadruple double
with turnovers there. It felt like he was a detriment
to this team late in the game. But I have
to be respectful of what he's playing through to even
get to this point. So what do you expect out
(05:14):
of Joe ellenbiid As the series goes back to Philly.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I expect the bay Fell is going to be quite tired, uh,
because he's only got one day between these games. He
was very tired after the game last night. I mean
he played forty eight minutes, and look, he had a
horrible stretch in the fourth quarter where Nick Nurse again
left him in to start the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I think that's a mistake.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
When Embiid gets tired, he starts to make a lot
of careless decisions with the ball. He was flinging the
ball over the place to your point, almost had I
think he had nine turnovers in the game. But look,
the guy's playing through he's coming back from this knee injury.
He's dealing with Bell's palsy, which, if people don't know,
means that basically half your face is frozen. Not a
permanent thing, but it's obviously not ideal for somebody trying
(05:55):
to play basketball that their eye doesn't close.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And you know, he's also he had a migraine yesterday,
and he's just a huge guy that's not used to
playing forty eight minutes in games. So look, he thought
he played terribly yesterday. He was the first person to
say that, but he was able to summon it and
make three fantastic defensive plays in the final ninety seconds
of overtime that helped clinch the game for Philly. And
(06:22):
I think the biggest thing after the game when I
talked to him was for years, Joelle has sort of
jokingly lamented he hasn't had a Jamal Murray next to him, right,
It's always been jokichin Embiid who's the better player, And
he's always said, look, I don't have a guy that's
going for fifty in playoff games. And there's also been
a lot of debate about what his future is going
to be over the years. Where is he gonna play?
(06:43):
Is he going to be in Philly's He's going to
go somewhere else. I would say after this series, and
especially after Game five, I think all that stuff could
be put to bed, and Joel Embiid, who has loved
play with Tyres Maxi has been his biggest supporter for
years now, is very happy to have a young, precocious
superstar next to him. Putting up forty six at the
Garden in Game five, reprising the role of Reggie Miller
(07:05):
and you know, looking like a guy that should be
able to play with him for a long time to
come and be frankly, a pretty perfect partnership for the Sixers.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Tim Vontemps covers the NBA ESPN NBA Reporter covering the
seventy six Ers and the Knicks. Can either of these
teams go to the NBA Finals?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, I think they can, Dan, but that's more because
I think there's some chance that the Celtics could falter,
rather than I would say they're going to be favored
to get there. Whoever wins this series should win the
next round. I mean, obviously the Bucks are if they're
able to come back and beat the Pacers after the
Pacers somehow let them get back in the series last night,
(07:44):
we'll see where their health status is at. But the
Knicks or Sixers, I think would be favored pretty clearly
to beat the Bucks or Pacers in the next round.
Then you're in the conference finals and you're one your
four wins away from the finals. And as we saw
in Miami the other night, Christas Porzingis messes up up
his calf, that's a tricky injury. He could be out
for a while and he's a critical part of what
(08:05):
Boston does without him on the court. They get back
to the team they've been the last few playoffs, which
is very isolation heavy, taking a lot of threes, not
a lot of other options on offense. And while that
certainly should be good enough for Boston to win, it's
not a guarantee, as we saw last year with Miami's,
we've seen in the past with Celtics, and especially if
they play one of either a Philly team that's gone
(08:27):
through the fire a couple of rounds and maybe exercise
and demons, or this Knicks team that is just big
and physical and super tough mentally and plays really hard.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Both of them I think.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Could give Boston a lot of trouble inside and potentially
make that a very competitive series.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Before I let you go, everybody seems to have an
opinion on Lebron. Lebron says he doesn't have an opinion yet,
but somehow that information got leaked, which I'm thinking it
got leaked by Lebron that it doesn't matter playing with
his son. Your thoughts on Lebron's future, what makes the
most sense?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I mean, I don't think there's really much at the
debate whether it makes sense or not. I think he's
clearly going to be with the Lakers. I'd be very
surprised if he's elsewhere. And look, the Lakers have spent
the past few years, you know, not putting all that
good of a team around Lebron. They've let a lot
of talent out the door. They lost to CACP two
years in a row. They could have had Katavius Calbo
(09:22):
Pope stay on their team. They traded him in the
Russell Westbrook trade, which is one of the worst trades
in recent memory. They could have kept alax Caruso and
did it. You know, They've made a lot of personnel mistakes.
They could have got Mike Conley in the trade they
got the ends of the Russell Mike Conley would have
been a huge difference maker for the Lakers. So I
think what makes the most sense for Lebron is probably
(09:43):
to stay with the Lakers and for the Lakers to
make some smart personnel decisions this summer and upgrade the
roster around him, because if you have him and Anthony Davis,
that should be good enough to be a contender in
the West. And instead, as we've seen over the last
couple of years, the Lakers are still a clear level
below Denver. And as you look at Minnesota and Oklahoma
City and these other younger teams in the West, they're
(10:03):
only going up and the Lakers are either flat lined
or going the other way.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Good stuff, save travels to Philly. Thank you, Tim, Thanks Dan.
That's Tim bond Temps covering the NBA for the Mothership
and he'll be going to Philly Thursday night game five.
Give me an idea of what it's going to cost
to get into the seventy six ers next game in Philly.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Okay, this is vivid seats dot com. You you can
the get in price is a one hundred and fifty
eight dollars. That's the best price. Those are nosebleed seats.
But right now there's I'm looking at least a couple
thousand tickets are available for sale right now, over two
thousand fans are shopping for tickets. Those are likely Knicks fans.
Now Game seven, if it goes back to the nixt
(10:46):
MSG the get in price, the lowest get in price
is four hundred and fifty two dollars. How much for
court side seats? Game six? Seventy six Ers Nicks, well, are.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Those for sale because it feels like those are celebrities
I've got.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Yeah, they mostly are saved for celebrities, but there are
some floor seats in the baseline behind the basket. Two
baseline seats cost one five grand pretty close, it's uh
forty two.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I was wondering about this as I'm looking at the
celebrities there the Knicks game. At what point can you
tell a celebrity they're not as big of a celebrity
as they once were. Therefore somebody else might be taking
their seat where you don't get front row because somebody
that's somebody's job. When somebody's now you don't have John
(11:40):
Stewart doesn't call, you know, his assistant calls, or his
agent manager calls. But at what point can you say
that in a delicate way of somebody court side or
used to sit court side, you know, we we can't
have you know what, all the seats are taken up. Hey,
(12:01):
we have some seats up in the loge area. Yeah, Seaton.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yeah, it's like we have tickets for you, and then
when you get there you find out where they are.
They're like, oh, you know, I don't know if we
have any court side left.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Because that's where you now, they have a special green
room for the court side people. We get to go
back and have drinks, and you know, it's a little
fraternity back there. You imagine if you go, oh, now,
go back in the green Uh excuse me? Wait wait wait, no, no,
I'm always in here. Mmm not tonight, yeah yeah, Paul right.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
And you could get court side for the Hornets game,
but you can't get court side versus the Celtics. Like
it's like a sliding scale of a tougher opponent, harder
to get court side. We had David Spade, the comedian,
on a couple of years ago and you asked him
about this, and he said, it's like a litmus test of.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Where your career is.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Because if you call and you don't get a callback,
you might be between series. Then you get a new
hit series and now they're calling you to appear at
Lakers games, or you breeze right into front row seats.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well, I remember when we were going to get tickets
to the next game, and then I wasn't going to go,
and then all of a sudden we suddenly didn't have
tickets to the next game. PAULI has the email correspondence there.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Very nice gentlemen said he had five seats for us too.
It was a regular season good next game. It was
during the Carmelo Anthony era. Okay, and I said, oh, great, great,
and it was going back and forth, and the last
email was just want to assure you that Dan is
with you, guys, correct like he's doing his best, he'll
likely be there, and then they went radio silent.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
He's going to be there in spirit. Which it wasn't
like we asked for five court sides. It was just
like any five seats in the building. Yeah, doesn't matter,
yes time.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
It's not like I went from you were going to
be in the lows. Then we were kicked up to
the upper reserves. There was no seats at all.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, that's odd. Oh oh so Dan, Well Dan needs
to pick them up personally. Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And then I go, okay, I'll give you guys my
driver's life, since you can pick up the tickets there, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
For court side seats, so save you're Tracy Morgan and
Timothy Challomey, who's on fire right now, says hey, can
I get a court side seat? Do you go to
Tracy Morgan or do you just go to one of
those other celebrities that have him, like he's a staple
at the garden. Yes, do you go to somebody else
and say no, not Tracy, not Spike, not Ben Stillar,
(14:25):
not Chris Rock. You just go some of the sometimes guys.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Well Timothy Charalome is gonna get tickets. He'll be courtside
last minute. Even Yes, he could walk in, you know
and just say hey, uh sorry, got a seat for me? Yes,
we do, Yes, we do. Uh you get up, yes, Paulin.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
That seems like a fascinating job, the person who is
the last line of defense for Nicks or Lakers tickets.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It sounds like it would be an interesting job because
you get to talk to the person who talks to
the celebrity.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
You have a ton of power.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Yeah, but the sliding scale of uh, you know, it's
an hour for game time. All my I have to
save two tickets in case blank plank calls.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I had asked Sandman.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I said, hey, you know, I'd love to go to
a Laker game, and then he said, I Danny, you
tell me. And then I said, all right, you pick one,
and then Sandman out of nowhere goes uh Danny Tomorrow
Night Lakers, and I go, wait, you got to give
me more of a heads up here.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Now I'm not in LA.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
He goes, all right, I'll get somebody else as Sandman
was courtside, and I was like, all right, that guy's
in my seat there. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
I did love the idea that like, not in LA.
And it's like, so, yeah, get here, So just get here, go.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
To the game, go home.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Deal. Well it's like getting invited to Tom Brady's roast.
And then I said, well, I'm not going to be
in LA. And then I realized I'm just going to
be in the audience there, which is fine. I don't
I didn't want to roast Tom Brady, but I was
trying to find out if they wanted me to roast,
therefore they would want me in New York and it
(15:59):
was this Sunday night. Then I would go, but I
don't want to be on the dais. I saw who's
going to be up there. Now. I got information two
weeks ago with a person who's involved in this, and
she reached out and I've known her a long time
from the days of the espies, and she just said, hey,
Tom's getting roasted. It's going to be live. Do you
(16:20):
want to go? And I'm like, uh wow, that'd be awesome,
but I won't be in la. She goes, Okay, no worries.
Just wanted to reach out, thought of you. And then
I realized who's going. You're gonna have Gronk there, and
Edelman's going to be there. Belichick, I believe, is going
to be there, so the right people are going to
be roasting him. And so I'll watch it like I'm
(16:43):
curious what Belichick says in a roast about Tom Brady
because is he going to have his own material?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And then if somebody's going to have a joke and
beun Check's delivering it, it just seems really odd. Edelman
is going to crush Brady. I already know that Edelman will.
Of all of those guys, Edelman's the one. He's the sniper,
that's a fellow too, who knows where the bodies are buried,
so to speak.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yes, but he will be great. Gronk will be Gronk.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's just I think Drew Bledsoe is going to be
there as well, So I think you know that's kind
of the grouping there.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, poem.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
What's awkward though at these roasts are maybe not awkward
but great is they make fun of each other too
as they Yes, they go up there, they roast the
roasters before they get to the main target. Yes, that's
where Belichexi might have a hard time.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I just can't imagine Bill gone. And I remember the
time that Tom deflated the football and the guy was
named the deflator.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I mean, did you see that picture at the combine too?
Look at that? Who would draft that? Chobby loser?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Look at that? If you call that eye candy?
Speaker 8 (18:05):
Yes, well they give him fake laps like the Patriots
media would out.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Of a of course, of course, yes, yes Morman.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
Does Nick Foles get an invite?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
No?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Eli man he's in I heard is.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
If sources they have to have Eli bring both those
Super Bowl trophies out. Just put them on the days. Yeah,
have maybe a cape, you know, and he walks out.
He's got both those super Bowl trophies.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Just put him right there on the day.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
Is t shirt that says two and oh on it?
Speaker 11 (18:41):
Nothing else?
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Well, he had pants on too, Well, doesn't have to
let me take a break.
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think I'm kicking ass right now.
Speaker 13 (20:19):
You sure are sure?
Speaker 9 (20:22):
Are all right?
Speaker 13 (20:23):
I didn't wear my Monster Energy drink colors today. I'm
glad you did.
Speaker 9 (20:27):
Do you have a.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Problem with that?
Speaker 14 (20:29):
No, No, thats a solid sweatshirt. Actually most I do
not own a neutral colored sweatshirt anymore.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
It just feels like we're sett in the tone here,
and I don't know if I like the tone that's
being set.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I would give you a yellow card right now, right, Yeah.
Speaker 13 (20:43):
I know much.
Speaker 14 (20:44):
I know better than to anger, mister Dan Patrick. Okay,
I would never never even dare.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Okay, all right, now, let's play nice, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 13 (20:56):
I believe what you're wearing is brave. Now, that's worse
than what I said.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
That's a shot too. That's a shot too.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
It's not what are you talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I could kick both of your asses if I wanted to.
Speaker 11 (21:08):
I do not doubt that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Let's not do that. Okay, all right? How close did
this almost not happened?
Speaker 13 (21:16):
Rob uh on the entire endeavor? Yeah? Uh, not at all.
Speaker 15 (21:23):
I mean I think it was it was something we
were going to figure out how to do.
Speaker 13 (21:28):
It was just a matter of how to do it.
Speaker 15 (21:32):
But once the pieces started coming together, it was it
was clear that it was that it was going to happen.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Ryan, your best day has been what with this this club?
Speaker 13 (21:44):
My best day?
Speaker 14 (21:46):
You know, it's you know, the automatically I think you
might think that it was being promoted.
Speaker 13 (21:50):
But but I have two best days that are tied.
Speaker 14 (21:52):
One is I think when the club drew against Sheffield
I just the the you know, there's a Championship League
club that went up to the Premier League that same season,
and and you know, the kind of heart and soul
that we saw in that field that day was one
of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. And then
the other moment I think was probably Ben Foster save
(22:13):
against Notts County. Uh you know, and also you know
I'd been pretty to Ben doing an interview a year
before where he said, they said, what would be your
fictionalized greatest moment in a football game that you could
ever dream up, no matter how ridiculous, And he described
that moment I think to the letter exactly, which happened
(22:33):
to him a year later, you know, coming out of
retirement like that. That was I don't think I've ever
been that emotional in my life.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Worst day, Rob, Oh.
Speaker 15 (22:43):
Wow, I would say that that loss, the loss against
Grimsby Town in the playoff at the end of the
first season was was pretty low.
Speaker 13 (22:58):
That was That was That was pretty low.
Speaker 15 (23:00):
I would I would probably have to rank that as
one of the worst days of the of the experience.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
When did you guys decide or did you decide to
ship the focus from you two to the actual team,
the actual club.
Speaker 13 (23:13):
From the outside?
Speaker 14 (23:15):
Yeah, that was that was That was the sure thing,
mainly because and and and it wasn't because.
Speaker 13 (23:22):
We were being falsely modest.
Speaker 14 (23:23):
That the real the thing that is so compelling about
this town is its inhabitants and people, I mean, and
their relationship to this club and how so many of
their benchmark moments, hopes, dreams, and feelings are Uh. That
corollary between that and the club is just unbelievable. So
and and also the stories are just falling off the
(23:45):
trees out there. I mean, it's it's incredible to walk
around talk to people.
Speaker 13 (23:49):
You just you can't believe the kind of character they have.
Speaker 15 (23:52):
It's really and we knew that that would maybe draw people,
that that we would be able to draw people to
at least attention to to to come and watch the
first episode, but that it really would get old very
quickly just watching the two of us bumble around, and
and ultimately those weren't the stories we wanted to tell.
We wanted to tell the stories that we believe in
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as a sports fan. That most sports fans don't understand
is that actually sports are not about triumph. They're actually
about loss and despair and and and because that's the
vast majority of what being a fan is, and how
do you overcome adversity and if you can transcend sport
(24:34):
and talk about that as people are going through cancer
or going through difficult things, mental issues in their lives,
or literally just trying to get through the day on
a basic wage through as the cost of living is
being raised, we thought that would be a much more
compelling show and that and.
Speaker 14 (24:53):
A Fish out of Water is really a sea plot.
You know how you're going to can tape you can't.
Sustainability isn't there with that sort of mindset, So yeah,
it was it no brainer.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, also, we look at sports movies like Bull Durham
or Hoosiers and they're not really sports movies. It's about relationships.
In trying to capture those relationships is why we invest
Like I want to invest in somebody that I would
never invest in, and that's what you guys were able
to capture. Like there was a Leeds United documentary. I
(25:23):
watched it Sunderland until I die. I watched it. I'm like,
I don't even care, but I cared so damn much
about it. And that's like you guys go from scripted,
this is nonscripted. How much do you can you control
anything or do you want to control anything?
Speaker 9 (25:41):
With that?
Speaker 14 (25:42):
One thing I could speak today is that you know
Wrexham is is. Yeah, it's a town in North Wales,
but it's also a town in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 13 (25:50):
It's a town in Saskatchewan, Canada.
Speaker 14 (25:53):
It's it's Australia, it's Brazil, it's all, it's everywhere. I mean,
there's working class to people see themselves in that. That's
story to me is quite quite evergreen.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (26:04):
But you know the thing that I I, I probably
you know, will never ever forget is that first step,
that first time we went to Wrexham Because what I think,
the thing that's most insane about the story is we
couldn't go there because it was the apex of the pandemic.
(26:24):
We couldn't actually go there, so we had sort of
assumed stewardship of this club before ever you know, touching
a blade of grass in the racecourse, which is you know,
this is the most financially irresponsible endeavor you would ever
possibly find. It's just absolute idiocy on paper. But you know,
we don't know that much about financial investments to say.
(26:45):
What we do love, and something we've loved our whole
adult lives is emotional investment. And emotional investment can kind
of create that moat around something. And I feel like
that mode is around Wrexham and and and it is
special for that reason.
Speaker 15 (26:58):
People asked people ask me all the time to like, well,
are one of my favorite documents sports documentaries? And like
what are the biggest influences in making the show, and
then I'll say, it's actually not a documentary, and then
they'll say, oh, it's got to be rocky, because we
make a lot of rocky references.
Speaker 13 (27:13):
And clearly there's a lot of rocky in my life
and a lot of rocky in the story.
Speaker 15 (27:17):
But the truth of the matter is that the movie
that has been the most influential and the one that
I want the show to feel most like, is Field
of Dreams, which is not a movie about baseball.
Speaker 13 (27:29):
Of course, it's you.
Speaker 11 (27:30):
Know, of course not.
Speaker 15 (27:31):
It's about a father and a son, and that is
exactly the story that we want to.
Speaker 13 (27:35):
Tell about every movie I've ever produced.
Speaker 14 (27:37):
I've stolen the score from Field of Dreams, and that's
been our temp score for the whole thing. And I
realized the last couple of years that it's just cheating.
Nothing will ever live up to it, So stop doing it.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
So I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
They are the owners of Wrexham AFC. We're talking to
Ryan Reynolds, Rob mclihanny joining us. Season three of FX
is Welcome to Rexham premiers with two episodes on May
second at ten pm Eastern in Pacific on FX, available
the next Day on Hulu. If you guys played in
an exhibition match, how would you fare?
Speaker 14 (28:10):
Oh god, if the exhibition match was in the lobby
of a hospital, I think that'd be all right.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
I mean, you know, given.
Speaker 14 (28:16):
How close the proximity is for medical attention. But no,
what position would I play?
Speaker 15 (28:20):
I mean, I think the thing that because you just
can't help it, You're like, Wow, I'm in pretty good shape.
Speaker 13 (28:27):
Maybe I could keep up a little bit.
Speaker 15 (28:30):
And at the end of one of the games, we
had Charlie Day and the rest of the cast of
Sunny come out and the guys that already played the game,
and what they do is they warm down at the
end of the games, which is tragic that they just
run six miles at full speed, but they still have
to warm down.
Speaker 13 (28:44):
So they're running a very slow pace.
Speaker 15 (28:46):
And Charlie's like, I'm gonna sprint with these guys to
see if I can keep up, and they're running at
half speed and he is running at full speed and
he could barely make it across the pitch.
Speaker 14 (28:57):
The greatest song ever writ and was the sound of
Charlie Day's hamstring snap for the center line at the
Wrexham Racecourse ground like a beautiful harp.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Uh Ryan, are you going to have Blake maybe be
your Taylor Swift with the franchise here?
Speaker 14 (29:18):
Well, there is only one Taylor Swift and there will
never be another Taylor Swift. But so but but but
Blake is as emotionally invested as anyone.
Speaker 13 (29:26):
I mean, she's spent a ton of matches.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Well, can you get Taylor to show up maybe, as
you know, that would be a coup.
Speaker 13 (29:33):
Uh yeah, I would love that. Actually, I know for
sure the Kelsey Brothers are coming out to a game.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
So yeah, that's season four.
Speaker 13 (29:40):
That's our that's our door plan. That's yeah, that's how
you how you lure the Queen Bee?
Speaker 9 (29:46):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Are you still trying to buy a hockey team? Ryan, No, sir, No.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
Not at all.
Speaker 14 (29:52):
Ottawa Uh no, uh No, I love Ottawa. I spent
time there as a kid. I lived in Vannier. Uh
And but no, that is a that is a not
not happening.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
All right, So just one franchise is all you can have?
Speaker 14 (30:07):
This is I mean, look, I wake up in the
morning eighty percent of the emails in my inbox have
to do Wrexham. I mean, this is a I'm chewing
and blowing bubbles with Wrexham all the livelong day.
Speaker 13 (30:16):
I don't there's nothing, there's no room for anything else.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But if you ever said, honey, I just bought a midfielder, Like,
do you ever have one of those days where you know, wait,
what are you doing? Ah, I got a striker?
Speaker 14 (30:27):
You know, Well, it's like beer, you're borrowing it really
Uh yeah, I don't think you're buying or owning, but yeah.
Speaker 15 (30:35):
But yeah, but we are investing heavily into those players.
Speaker 13 (30:38):
But yes, it's the same.
Speaker 15 (30:40):
It's it's actually a lot like golf, where like you
could have as everybody knows that plays golf, nobody cares
about how you played golf, and so I'll come home
and I'll be like, honey, i shot an eighty and
she's like, oh my god, do the dishes.
Speaker 13 (30:54):
And I'm like I get it. So but it's a
similar thing where I'm like, honey, we just we just
like signed a midfielder and she's like, oh my god, congratulations.
She's actually really legitimately excited. So that that's a really
a really good feeling there. She's very much invested in the.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Pand well, hopefully you guys are you still acting. You
guys gonna actor, You've given up acting.
Speaker 13 (31:16):
So I'm sorry, Dan, We're Oh, please wrap.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Well that's a cliffhanger.
Speaker 15 (31:24):
Let me say one Let me say one thing before
you go, because I've met you in person many times,
and I've said this to you already, but I'd like
to say it on your show, and I'm sure you
you hear this from so many people, but you are
such a huge part of my generation and so many
people younger than me and maybe a little bit older,
in bringing the story of sports to life in a
(31:46):
way that I'd never seen before. To bring you literally
created it the comedy, but also the excitement, and to
present it in a way to a whole new generation
of sporting fan I've believe actually like change sports. And
so I think that you, in particular have just been
(32:07):
a beacon and a guiding force.
Speaker 13 (32:10):
For us to be able to do what we do.
One of the great storytellers that I know we're run
out of time a long time ago.
Speaker 14 (32:14):
But I also want to say that I was so
nervous the first time I got to meet you, and
is at Super Bowl twenty sixteen in San Francisco, and
I sat on your show there, and I was utterly
geeked out because you've been one of the great sports
storytellers of a generation, and I'm we're very grateful to
have got to actually sit down in the hot seat
with you.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Don't like Rob was sincere, You weren't as sincere with that, Ryan, No, I'm.
Speaker 14 (32:37):
Just competing, Rob. I wasn't at Super Bowl in twenty sixteen.
That was it has been affleck Okay.
Speaker 13 (32:44):
I like that. I love that you can't take a compliment,
just like just like we can't.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
So that's fine.
Speaker 13 (32:49):
You can just deflect.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
You just defly.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You go ahead, have a great day, everybody, and good
luck to season three.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Thank you guys, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
That's Ryan Reynolds, Rob Mackwill Hanning in three of FX
is welcome Direction, yea, the moderator interrupts us.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
His face Ryan Reynolds face.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
I'm sorry, Dan, We're at time his face was absolutely
pit That was priceless.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Welcome Direction tomorrow at ten Eastern and Pacific on FX.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yes, Paul, do you remember this happened a long long
time ago. We Fritzy worked for like six months to
book Tom Cruise, and we got Tom Cruise on and
We're four minutes into the innury six minutes in and
the moderator jumps. He goes, Tom has to move on
to entertainment night or whatever. And you go whoa, whoa, whoa,
and Tom Cruise jumps. He goes, We're good. I'm good
with Dan, Dan, go as long as you want. And
(33:40):
you did another like eight minutes with Tom Cruise.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's cool interrupting us. We were on a roll.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
And then Rob Rob I've had I've had private conversations
with about, you know, doing some business together, and this
is a couple of years ago, and he's always been
very nice. But I thought that he was being sincere.
I thought Ryan was maybe acting like he was sincere,
and that's why I called him out.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
But it was good acting.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Though it's tough to be the second guy, yes, in
that it's tough to be sincere after following the person
who seems more sincere.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It would have been nice if Ryan started it instead
of Rob. I think Ryan was sincere.
Speaker 9 (34:23):
I do.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
I think he just unfortunately was second man.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
In well, the only actor in this room. I would
say I think he was acting sincere. But he's a
good actor.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Todd.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Were you buying then?
Speaker 8 (34:38):
I was, But I understand the thought of the piggybacking thing.
Where whoever said it first? We've had that here too.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
You do that show? Who say good show and that
go yeah, good show to youre too?
Speaker 16 (34:48):
What is that?
Speaker 9 (34:48):
Very man?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, your nickname is piggyback. That's what you do. You
just piggyback somebody else I miss piggyback.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show week days at a I'm Me Stern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w APP.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Proud of the podcast platform that we have at Danpatrick
dot com. We have a couple of new podcasts up
there and they come from the co founders of John
Boy Media, Jimmy O'Brien, the founder of John Boy Media,
host of Jimmy's Three Things podcast, and Jake Storiellie, co
founder of John Boy Media, host of Wake and Jake podcast.
(35:29):
As we welcome them to The Dan Patrick Show and
The Dan Patrick Show platform for podcast. Jimmy, let me
start with you. For those unaware of John Boy Media,
explain how all of this got started.
Speaker 17 (35:43):
Well, it started as the two of us just talking
Yankees together because I was living in California and he
was in Dallas and we were living with girlfriends at
the time and had no one else to talk Yankees about.
And then the Yankees were good in twenty seventeen, so
we got an audience because people wanted to in and
from there it's just steamrolled and snowballed into anything we
(36:05):
really wanted to be and come and now we're a
company of fifty people with multiple shows and doing stuff
we never thought we'd be doing. So it's it's been
awesome to have an audience that has allowed us to
get to the spot.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
When did you guys go national?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What was the moment where all of a sudden we
were hearing more about John Boy.
Speaker 17 (36:25):
Twenty nineteen was the moment where we started doing coverage
of the whole league, not just Yankees. And then we
had a couple things that ticked up and ticked up
and ticked up, and then the biggest one was, you know,
hopping on the astros cheating scandal of twenty nineteen and
making videos about that, and that got our name out
to a whole audience. We had been pretty big in
the New York scene up until that, point. And then
(36:48):
I think that helped us because we launched Talking Baseball,
We brought Trevor Plufe, a former player, on, and we
were covering the whole league after.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
That, Jake, what was it about it? With that Astro scandal?
All of a sudden it started to resonate with people.
When did you know you guys had something?
Speaker 16 (37:05):
Well, man, I always say it should be like the
case study of new media because the Athletic was on
it and it was behind a paywall, so you know,
everyone read the article and was like, oh wow, Astros
or cheat and ooh, and then Jim posts the video
and you see a picture on the mounds like something's
(37:26):
not right here and I don't know. I mean there's
so many times in different sports things where you see
the video and it changes how you think.
Speaker 10 (37:33):
And yeah, that left sports well.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
We consume video. We can understand video as opposed to
reading a story. Sometimes the story can be confusing, and
then you're trying to visualize that you guys took all
the guesswork out of it. It's like here it is.
Now you decide when did you hear from baseball or
the Astros or anybody else?
Speaker 11 (37:56):
Lawyers, God, no, never heard from anyone, you know.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (38:00):
Rosenthal reached out and he was, I would I'm always
nervous because people credit us for breaking the story, which
I used quotes because we didn't. Evan Drelich and Rosenthal
did years of grunt uh grunt work to get people
on the record. What I did is that just made
it tangible and showed the video proof. And Rosenthal actually
reached out and said, I was Actually it was like, uh,
(38:21):
weight off my shoulders to see us be backed because
it was kind of they were, you know, throwing that
out there and it could have been scoffed at and say, yeah, right,
who cares.
Speaker 11 (38:30):
So that was nice to hear from them.
Speaker 17 (38:32):
But MLB astros, we've never never reached out about that
or at that time.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Now would you how would you label your site because
there's there's comedy in there. I mean, you're having fun,
but you guys should die hard baseball fans. So is
it a baseball website?
Speaker 17 (38:50):
Well, it started baseball, for sure. We've grown into other areas.
We have guys that cover football, we have some lifestyle stuff.
We've even had like our own section of creating our
own own sports in a warehouse that is more like
reality TV show.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
So we've been able to do everything we wants.
Speaker 17 (39:05):
Definitely, baseball baseball adjacent Adjacent is the like crux of
what we're doing. And then it's fan led, so we're
not trying to be unbiased in any way. We're trying
to be very honest and let you know, you know,
we're Yankees fans, so people get upset about that, but
we were not going to hide it or change our thoughts.
Speaker 11 (39:25):
So it's fan led media.
Speaker 17 (39:26):
We used to say, but I don't know, it's uh analysis,
but taking ourselves pretty lightly.
Speaker 11 (39:32):
I think that would how I sum it up.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Courtesy of John Boy. We have two podcasts up at
Dan Patrick dot com. Jimmy's Three Things and then there's
Wake and Jake. All Right, Jake, so what can we
expect with your podcast on I'm Jakey.
Speaker 16 (39:49):
And Man, I'm sports. I grew up in Connecticut. I
grew up with ESPN in the backyard. I was like
raised by old sports centers. So in a way like
I'm taught, you know, we're a family that man. I
obviously we're so deep into baseball that I do lean
into baseball. That's what a lot of people look at us.
But I'm I love sports man. So I'm especially this
(40:11):
time of year with NBA playoffs going, with NHL playoffs going,
Yukon hoisting another banner.
Speaker 10 (40:16):
Obviously, i just love sports.
Speaker 16 (40:19):
So if someone's looking to talk sports and kind of
I'm a very I'm just a naturally friendly person.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
I like people.
Speaker 16 (40:26):
I think there's a lot of people that don't like
saying that. The a joke I make a lot is
like I'm the perfect last invite to a wedding because
I'm just like friendly. I'm gonna have a couple of drinks,
dance a little bit. So it's kind of like that
with sports.
Speaker 11 (40:39):
He's gonna dance a lot. There's a lie at the end.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
There, okay, and then Jimmy's three things.
Speaker 11 (40:46):
So that's heavy baseball.
Speaker 17 (40:47):
Basically, I'm sitting down and talking to the audience. It's
just me in a room, and I like to deep
dive into whatever the biggest story is and really dive
into the weeds, and sometimes the audience is on the
journey with me. So I did a big one the
other day about the Mets not sliding into second base
to break up double plays. When McNeil got mad, and
instead of just having the surface level reaction to it,
(41:10):
I like to actually go like, wait, does.
Speaker 11 (41:12):
McNeil break up double plays? And then oh, does do
the Mets break up double plays?
Speaker 17 (41:17):
And going really into the weeds. So it's kind of
watching a crazy baseball fan get lost within weeds. And
then I pull myself out and move on to the
next topic as quickly as I can.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
So when Aaron Judge slides into second and he's got
his you know, the the mitt on his sliding, mit
there ofnmit, you guys react to that?
Speaker 11 (41:36):
Yeah, that's that's definitely one that you know.
Speaker 17 (41:37):
I'd like to go find all the footage of him
sliding when it's a double play, all the footage of
him sliding when he's just stealing second? Is that a
different slide? What about a hustle doubles? Is the hand
up going there? So that's that's the type.
Speaker 11 (41:49):
Of stuff that I do on Jimmys Three Things.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
But is it you guys against the world when it
comes to your opinions? Do you want people athletes to
agree with you and people to agree with you or
would you rather stir it up and be sort of
we don't mind being villains here.
Speaker 17 (42:06):
I think we can have fun when we want. We
don't really lean into being poking the bear just to
poke the bear. If I have an opinion that I
think will stir people up, I'll definitely do it.
Speaker 11 (42:17):
But we're not aiming for that.
Speaker 17 (42:18):
It's uh, you know, I always tell you why I
couldn't even dress up for Halloween. I can't not be myself,
so I can't do the whole I'm going to be
a contrarian just to do it stuff. So it's you know,
I really dislike the Rays. I have fun poking that bear,
but I truly don't like them. Why all because I
can't get into that, but I they just you know,
(42:41):
they brag about not paying their players any money and
they all get injured and it never actually won.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
When's the last time the Yankees won? Yeah, well they
win games.
Speaker 17 (42:54):
But the same thing about the Yankees too. I think
that's the other thing is everyone's like, well the Yankees,
and we're like, we know we we we are well aware.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Do you want and let's say you could have a
current baseball player on your podcast.
Speaker 16 (43:10):
It's tough because we always juggle the are they gonna
be real? Like Aaron Judge obviously we're Yankee fans, and
if we could get a real combo with Judge and
he's gonna let it eat with us like, that would
be awesome. But you know, Aaron Judge kind of lives
by the Yankee way and he gives he gives the
right answer, So that's we We always have a lot
of agencies talk about sending players our way, and they're like,
(43:34):
you know, what do you want? We want the players
who are gonna be real, Like, let's let's chop it
up and talk.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
So you wouldn't want Geter on the podcast.
Speaker 17 (43:42):
I'd be embarrassed of how that I would look to
him and Tory are the only two people I were
I've seen in the same room and I kind of
melted like a little boy.
Speaker 11 (43:51):
So, uh, I would love to have Geter on, But I.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Bet he's not gonna say anything.
Speaker 17 (43:56):
Now he's not, but for my just for like a
personal thing. Oh okay, you know, business wise, I'd get
Otani any day. I don't care if he doesn't say anything,
that's gonna it's gonna lead to some new new viewership.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
What about a Rod?
Speaker 10 (44:08):
Who Rod?
Speaker 16 (44:10):
We've we we cross paths with Rod briefly we have
a guy, Joe's McFly that that works at our company.
He's uh, he famously went viral the uh when Devers
clip Chapman for that first time when Devers was a kid.
He's still like in commercials and stuff for it. And
he's he's pretty close with a Rod.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
Uh. I talked to Rod, but you never know where
that's gonna land.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
They are the co founders of John Boy Media and
there's two podcasts available, Jimmy's Three Things and Waken Jake.
The podcast so twice weekly for that when the baseball show.
Jimmy's Three Things where three things of the week that
he wants to talk about. It's great to have you
guys on board, and uh, have fun, have fun with this.
Speaker 11 (44:57):
Yeah, thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
It's the founder of john Boy Media, host of Jimmy's
Three Things podcast, Jimmy O'Brien and Jake store Ellie, co
founder of John Boy Media, host of Wakenjake podcast available
at dan Patrick dot com.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
And if you go back to.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
When we first really saw John Boy Media in the
national stage was with the Astros in the cheating scandal,
because there were some really good baseball reporters who came
out with the story, but it felt like it was
a little more complex. John Boy Media just sort of said,
let's pair this down.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You can hear them banging on garbage cans. They you know,
So the audio part of it, the visual part of it,
played such a large role, and then you were able
to go, oh, John Boy Media. So they made a
name for themselves back with that cheating scandal.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Yes, Paul, and we played the clip I remember on
the show that morning, and it was almost like, oh,
you know, if you accuse someone stealing something from a
song or artist, you're like, well maybe, and then you
play him side by side. Like the article on sports
ill strat I had lots of great detail on the
Athletic about the science dealing. But John Boy, when you
saw it, you're like, oh, there's no doubt, there's no doubt,
(46:08):
there's no benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, when you're listening and then you hear it, you're like, oh, wow,
it's so obvious. Let me get a couple of phone
calls in here, Steven in Valencia, Hi, Steven Woods on
your mind today?
Speaker 18 (46:23):
Adp Let me make sure I'm not getting any fuzz,
but yeah, I wanted to stick with the MVPs. Not
in the Hall of Fame discussion, especially with baseball. Okay,
I'm not sure if it's been brought up, but a
very classy gentleman I think you would love because he
every time I've had a chance to talk to him,
(46:43):
he just makes you feel like he remembers your conversations.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
And he's too famous to do that. But it would
be Don Newcombe.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, former picture. Yeah, good call. I
thought you were going to say Barry Bonds. You know
he remembers all your conversation, talks to the little.
Speaker 9 (47:00):
People is.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I think you'll get that random MVP in baseball, but
you don't get that in basketball or football, at least
modern day football from maybe the.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
Late seventies early eighties.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
On basketball, the same way baseball, you could have a
magical year like Roger Maris won the MVP when he
hit sixty one home runs.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
But that was it.
Speaker 13 (47:29):
One.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Gonzales won two MVPs, but he was involved in the
the steroid reports that came out stories.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yes, yes, Mark.
Speaker 9 (47:36):
And like George Bell and Ken Kammanitty had MVP awards.
Huh they had a good year.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
Yeah, Ken Kamanity, that was under suspicion as well. They
see did Roger Merris win two MVPs?
Speaker 6 (47:55):
And I thought back to back because he went to
them the Cardinals or Kansas City to Theyankees. Yeah, but
you're right back to back. Nineteen sixty with the Yankees,
he was MVP. Nineteen sixty one MVP with the Yankees.
He hit thirty nine homers to win it, and then
he hit sixty one homers to win it.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
And then the year he hit sixty one. I think
Mickey Mantle hit fifty four home runs. Michel Cabrera has
two MVPs. See, I thought that Mike Trout and Miguel
Cabrera were similar. Now, Cabrera won a World Series, but
I mean Cabrera's offensive numbers are crazy. But two MVPs
(48:34):
and then he's not playing with the Tigers anymore, is he?
Speaker 18 (48:38):
No?
Speaker 9 (48:38):
I think he retired. What do you got he's got
a triple crown.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, I mean he's he had a that's where everybody said, oh,
he's the next Mike Trout's the next Mickey Mantle. Well, okay, maybe,
but I would aspire to be Miguel Cabrera because he
did win a World Series title, a triple crown, probably
had a couple of batting titles. There, had five hundred
home runs three thousand, and that's where you you kind
(49:02):
of start there of great right handed hitters of all time,
where you want to get to that platform.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Cabrera played five years with Florida, then
he went to Detroit for the next fifteen or sixteen,
and he had seasons of three forty four, three thirty three,
forty eight, three thirty eight, four batting titles in five seasons.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Dang, nutty, dang.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
Yeah, when he was at his peak. His bad seasons
were like two ninety four.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, because Trout I think had ten home runs so
far this year eight were solo and he was batting
like two twenty. So it wasn't, you know, the start
of a magical year here. But now out indefinitely. Yeah,
Paul Poolholse's numbers. People should just look at him every
once in a while those ten years, Oh god, I
mean average and power, I mean yeah, three fifty nine
(49:50):
and forty three homers. I mean it was different. Yeah,
it was just you were looking and then but the
guy came out of nowhere. That's always what's amazing. It's like,
how did nobody spot this guy being this good?
Speaker 11 (50:05):
Draft?
Speaker 9 (50:07):
Yes. Mark Cabrera also went to the World Series with
the Tigers in twenty twelve. Okay, okay, did some damage
on bullde That's
Speaker 5 (50:15):
Pretty good, pretty good career.
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