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May 13, 2024 31 mins

Will Swaim comes on the show to talk about acting US Labor Secretary Julie Su getting questioned over California losing billions of dollars during COVID. More on acting US Labor Secretary Julie Su getting questioned over California losing billions of dollars during COVID by Congresswoman Michelle Steel. Kamala Harris dropped an F-bomb at a conference today. More on climate change. 

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John Cobelt Radio. All right, I explained. I set this
up right before the Devers two o'clock news. Julie Sue,
Good lord, you can't lose this parasite. Julie Sue was
Gavin Newsom Secretary of Labor during COVID, and she's the
one who gave away thirty three billion dollars to fraudsters,

(00:52):
I mean criminals, international crime gangs. You remember, even Scott
Peterson got a check yessive criminal operation infiltrated the California
system and honestly got thirty three billion dollars. It's so
bad that we haven't paid off at twenty billion dollar
loan that we owe the federal government. Julie Sue is

(01:14):
in charge of the department the whole time, and she
did nothing about the fraud. Everybody was yelling at her,
and she wouldn't do anything. So of course she gets
to be the federal Acting Secretary of Labor under Biden.
Now she's in a position to lobby for the rest
of the country's taxpayers to bail out her mess she

(01:36):
left behind in California. Yeah, she wants everybody else to
pay the thirty three billion dollars that we lost because
she allowed so much fraud. Let's get we'll swam on.
How are you will?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm good, John, Thanks for having me in.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, we talked about this a few weeks ago. You
alerted us to what was going on here. What has
this progressed since then? I mean, what is the state
of relations between Julie Sue the Biden administration in Congress,
which is starting to rebel against this.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, short, the short of it is on the Biden administration.
Joe Biden continues to talk about how honored he is
to have her work for him. This is what we
would expect from Joe Biden. Who may not know who
Julie Sue is. On the congressional side, however, she started
to run into some real resistance, some very difficult questioning from,
among others, House representative. You've got over there, Michelle Steele,

(02:33):
who's out of Orange County. He picked up this story
and grilled Sue in a hearing in the House, and
Sue had no great answers for her, and Michelle Steele
promised to not let this thing go. It moved immediately
over to the Senate side, where the Senate Finance Committee
has issued a letter asking her to answer several difficult

(02:56):
questions about how she let this happen, Why she appeared
now as you and I discussed a couple of weeks ago,
why she appears now uniquely ready to let California off
the hook on this lots here to unpack, But the
bottom line is she's lost a lot of federal money,
and the federal government wants to know what happened to
the money. When can we expect to see this money back?

(03:17):
And Julius Sue doesn't really have answers.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, everybody was aware of the fraud happening in real time,
and she wouldn't do anything to clamp down on it.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
It was just no response.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
If I'm remembering that, yeah, you are. In fact, her
earliest explanations were that to do anything to stiffen the
requirements for people to qualify for any kind of unemployment
benefit might disproportionately affect minority communities people of color, which

(03:54):
is a real slur against anybody who has a smartphone
and a laptop to be you know, to be told
you might not be able to work this out. On
the other hand, we all know how difficult to compete
to work with government, But to cite minority people or
people of color, that margionalized communities as.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
They don't have the capabilities to fill out the form.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
That's right, Yes, uniquely unfitted, unsuited to the modern world.
But that allowed all these fraudsters to come in unchecked.
And she has said she said in her house testimony
to Michelle Steele, she said, like, you know, look, this
was nobody could really see this coming. But she'd been
warned John for years that department, specifically even before JULIUSU

(04:39):
had been warned this kind of a hack, this kind
of a break in was very very likely, and she
did nothing for reasons of diversity, equity and inclusion.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, it turns out California has almost twenty five percent
of the total fraud in the nation on the issue.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
That's right, that's right. I'm glad you pointed that out.
Federal government's owned documents show that, yes, California is responsible
for you know, we're about twelve percent of the nation's population,
about twenty five percent of the fraud occurred here. We
always strive to do better than everybody else. And the
only other state that has failed to pay back its loans.

(05:22):
Remember that the federal government loaned in multiple states about
forty some states loaned money to these states for their
unemployment benefits during COVID because those numbers spiked. Those numbers
were the worst here because of Gavin newsom so locking
down the economy. And it persists to this day that
our unemployment benefits are problematic. But it's only New York
and California and the Virgin Islands, we're up there with

(05:44):
the best, have failed to pay back these COVID era loans.
And so the result is that because we failed to
pay that back, we are now watching as the federal
government is starting to hit California employers California businesses with
a special payroll tax that will escalate each year that

(06:05):
loan is unpaid, so to go up from about four
hundred dollars per person to upwards of eighteen hundred dollars
if this goes unpaid for the number of years that
most people think it will be unpaid.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Good lord, that is a lot of nerve, though, to
try to saddle the US taxpayers with the bill for
something mess you created. I mean, I'm just astonishing how
much gall she has and she's willing to, you know,
say this out loud, air this out publicly.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, she wouldn't have all of this, you might remember, John,
A lot of this was only revealed I should say
all of it was revealed in a basically a footnote
in California's annual financial reports. They're called the Annual Consolidated
Financial Report, and California's was due about a year and
a half ago. They filed it finally fifteen months late

(06:58):
in March, and the last paragraph of that report, buried
just before the financial documents how much of spreadsheets and such?
Was this one paragraph that just read in kind of
weird language that California couldn't really say what its financial
situation was because we had this massive outstanding liability of

(07:19):
the federal government which they hoped would be forgiven within days.
And if you click on the link for that forgiveness,
it goes to a memo from Julie Sue's Department of
Labor at the federal government saying, yes, California can write
this off if California says it's done everything it could
to collect the money. So that's Julie Sue for giving
Julie Sue for having lost thirty three billion dollars and

(07:41):
was thirty three billion among friends, right.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Just outrageous how she accepts no responsibility at all.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I mean, you detailing your story and then asked to review.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
She just had one dodge after another after another after another.
She just kept offering up nonsense answers and looks like
she never spent a day of her life seriously examining this.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Well.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think that's part of the challenge we have here
in California. Is I tried to point out a little
bit in my story. You know, this is a unique
political environment in California, and in competence is rewarded. People
fail up. Julie Sue has no background in public management,
managing a large government agency like the Department of Labor,
which oversees the unemployment Department here, had no experience. She

(08:25):
is an activist attorney. That's how she came to Gavin
Newsom's attention. She was a woman who was Asian America
is Asia, I'm sorry, she is a woman so far
as we know, and she's Asian American, and she was
an activist, you know, kind of a left wing labor activist,
and that was what qualified her to run this largest

(08:45):
in the nation, Department of Labor. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean, I get all the left wing, progressive rhetoric
that swirls around this, but the money went to a
death row inmates, international critical gangs. It didn't go to
poor people struggling because they lost their jobs during COVID.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
That's not where the money went.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
The money went to the harshest criminals on the planet,
including some who've.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Already been sentenced to death. That's what's amazing about it.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
A parting gift maybe, Yeah, this is what's amazing. John Is.
You guys reported on this. I remember you discussing it
at the time. We're going back to like twenty twenty
twenty twenty one. You guys were talking about this issue,
and one of the things I think you noted that
others have forgotten now is that when she was alerted
to this, just skyrocketing, you know, just catastrophe. I think

(09:38):
the number at that point was that she lost eleven
billion in counting. You could see the counter clicking over.
She immediately stomped on the brakes and shut like three
hundred and fifty thousand ordinary legitimate claims down for unemployment benefit.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's what was great.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
The criminals were getting all the money, but the regular
people who had a legitimate claim, they had their payment
shut down.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
You couldn't do a job.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yes, what's that old saying we used to have. I
used to be a lefty. There was a great saying
of a search for the guilty, punish the innocent. I
think that's Julie sees modo.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Now, Wow, do you think do you think they'll finally
block her from becoming the I mean, we're running out
of time on this whole issue anyway, because if Biden
doesn't survive the election, but good lord, I mean, and
she's actually going to get re ordered with the permanent
labor secretary job.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, this is.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
We're so fascinating, John, You and I could spend an
hour talking about just this aspect. Good old Kevin Kylie,
congressman from up in Placer County who represents that area
of Sacramento. And Kevin, Yes, what a wonderful guy. I mean,
just a rock solid, just very straightforward, low key kind
of dude. Has to Biden administration like, can you please

(10:52):
clarify why this woman is still acting quote unquote acting
Department of the Senate refuses to confirm her. Go find
somebody else who the Senate likes, And the Biden administration said, no, no, no, no,
you don't understand. You're thinking of a federal regulation that
requires Senate oversight. We don't have that in the Department
of Labor. We operate under a uniquely different set of

(11:14):
rules over there. So you know, maybe it's arguable the
Biden administration said that we don't have to have Senate
confirmation for this key agency post. It's just remarkable. So
you know, I'm following Kevin's work on that, but I think,
you know, the poor guy is almost losing his mind.
He's surrounded by this kind of chaos and he's doing
everything by the book. But you know you got an

(11:35):
administration that's kind of off the reservation here.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Now, all right, good talking with you again, Will, thanks
very much for coming on. Thank you, Will Swain articles
in the National Review. We've got more on this coming up.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
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Speaker 1 (11:55):
Let's play a little clip. Get to cut one ready.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
We just finished talking with Will Swain, who wrote a
great piece in the National View that you ought to read.
This is hard to believe, and if you're just joining us,
the quick story is we had a labor secretary under
Gavin Nincom poop Newsom, who blew at least thirty three
billion dollars in unemployment money to fraudsters, criminals around the country,

(12:20):
around the world, international crime syndicates, inmates in California Death Row,
inmates including Scott Peterson, thirty three billion dollars they got
in an unemployment money because Julie Sue, this labor activist failure,
became labor secretary with no experience and no experience running

(12:41):
an agency.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
And everybody told her every day, Julie, we're losing billions,
and she'd started mumbling something about diversity, equity and inclusion.
And you know then they told her to go lie down.
It was Dei fever she had. It was a raging infection.
So she gives away the thirty three billion, and now
she's Labor Secretary, acting Labor Secretary for Biden, and she

(13:08):
wants to use her power to reimburse California, the California
government with US taxpayer money. She's trying to pay back herself,
in effect, to clean up her own mess using taxpayer money.
And the Republicans, at least in Congress are having none
of it. Here is Julie Sue. We'll get an idea

(13:31):
about her genius level getting grilled from Congresswoman Michelle Steele
here in California.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Does DOL intend to forgive the nearby nearly thirty billion
dollars in fraudulent payments that the California AD depaid out
to frosters, scammers, and non international organized crime ings that
occurred under you in California.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
Thank you, Congresswoman for giving me a chance to address that.
It is absolutely false that the guidance that the Department
of Labor put out would forgive any fraud. So fraud
is never okay. We do not condone it, we should
not overlook it. And in fact, both are OIG and

(14:18):
others have been trying to combat.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
The fraud that was overwhelmingly paid in a program that
was set up by Congress to address the pandemic that
allowed for both automatic backdating and self certification.

Speaker 9 (14:34):
In its design.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
So the fraud is not acceptable, and we the Department
of Labor, certainly did not waive any kind of efforts
to combat the fraud or to recover fraudulent payments. In fact,
just recently, my Inspector General dischaced some funds to another

(14:55):
country in which fraudulent funds were used to purchase property,
and we are now trying to seize that property or
to get the money back.

Speaker 9 (15:01):
We're serious about combating fraud. What the guys would.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Stop stop a second, We're serious about combating fraud. She
allowed it to happen for months on end until racked up,
until we racked up thirty three billion dollars in fraudulent payments,
and now she's claiming they're you know, they're they're trying
to call the money back from a foreign country. I

(15:26):
did this just it's just filibustering by somebody who's obviously
not very bright. I don't know where she got her
law degree, but either they were giving them out cheaply.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
By the way, did did anybody investigate?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Was there any kickbacks going back to anybody in California government?
I mean, when you got thirty three billion dollars being
looted by criminals, any kickbacks?

Speaker 9 (15:51):
We're serious about combating fraud.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
And of course she's our acting Labor secretary, and of
course the administration backxer.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
There's just there's no there's no rules anymore. Harvard, Harvard,
are you serious? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
She got her BA at Stanford in nineteen ninety one
and then heard JD from Harvard. Wow, Harvard really is
not what it used to be, is it. That's a
Harvard graduate there and she blew thirty three billion dollars
of tax money.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
We're serious about combating fraud.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Why is everyone a cartoon character these days?

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Let's post it after four o'clock coming up at three.
The Rebecca Grossman case still not over. You remember that story.
Rebecca Grossman is the wife of doctor Peter Grossman. They

(17:07):
are the co founders of the Grossman Burn Center in
the Valley, and Rebecca Grossman was found guilty of killing
Mark and Jacob Iskander. She struck and killed them at
a crosswalk in Westlake Village eleven and eight years old.
We are going to have Mark and Jacob's mom on
Nancy for the first time on our show. She was

(17:30):
walking with them as they were crossing the street ahead
of her when when Rebecca Grossman's SUV barreled through the
intersection and Rebecca hit them and killed them both. Rebecca
then tried to blame her boyfriend Scott Ericksson she was

(17:54):
having an affair the former Dodger Pitcher. Jury thought she
was lying and that this was an attorney just made
up the story, and the next chapter here is about
that attorney, James Spurtis I. James Spurtis is also the

(18:15):
attorney for Gascon's assistant da Diana Tehran. Diana Tehran was
just charged with eleven felonies illegally using confidential sheriff's deputy
records major felonies that the Attorney General has charged her with.

(18:36):
Tehran is represented by James Spurtis. So what you have here,
according to what you have here, is a possible conflict
of interest by James Spurtis because he's representing someone in
Gascone's department at the same time he's up against someone

(18:58):
in Gascon's department because they're heading into the sentencing and
Gascone has now stepped in and removed the prosecutors from
the Iskander side of the case. So the prosecutors who
got the conviction and we're now trying to secure the sentencing,
have been removed because the defense attorney is representing Gascone's

(19:25):
top lieutenant. You follow this, The defense attorney is representing
Gascone's top lieutenant. So Gascone removed his prosecutors who got
the conviction. I don't understand this. I'm sure Nancy Iskander
doesn't either, but we'll find out when we talk with her,

(19:45):
and she's gonna come on after three o'clock. I mean,
Gascone really is the embodiment of evil. Imagine sighting against
the Iskander family taking away their prosecutors to try to
so that your possibly crooked assistant da ist gets the

(20:10):
lawyer she wants. It's amazing our Kamala Harris has dropped
the F bomb. She was appearing on stage at the
annual Asian Pacific American Institute for Congressional Studies Legislative Leadership Summit.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Do you believe the title of that?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
How come all these left wing organizations have these incredibly long,
complicated titles Asian Pacific American Institute for Congressional Studies Legislative
Leadership Summit. Yikes, that is what is that? That's ten words?
Ten words? Well, she's speaking there, getting interviewed by some

(20:50):
movie guy and this is her.

Speaker 10 (20:54):
Well, listen, we have to know that sometimes people will
open the door for you and leave it open, and
sometimes they won't, and then you need to kick that
door down.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
And then and then the cat like, we're gonna make
t shirts with that saying kick the door down.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I pray every day for Joe Biden's health. Imagine if
she became president. Imagine you heard that laugh every day.
This is this is, this is why Biden cannot get
re elected. I mean, can you imagine listening to that
every frigging day, President Harrison sh let's say that, don't

(21:50):
say those things.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I mentioned early earlier.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
That California is going to get a fifty cent a
gallon tax increase next year and another fifty cents the
year after. This comes from the California Air Resources Board.
They have a new low carbon fuel standard. These regulations

(22:20):
will increase the cost of gas by fifty cents in
twenty twenty five and another fifty cents in twenty twenty six.
I'm rounding off here, could even be higher for diesel.
We're going to talk with State Senator Jenet win A
three thirty about it. Because you take what we're paying
for gas, which at the moment averages five to twenty eight,

(22:42):
well in two years it's going to be minimum six
twenty eight. And elsewhere in the country they're playing they're
paying three ten three twenty three thirty a gallon. They're
trying to make it unaffordable to drive a gas car,
which is not a good idea because there was another
story in the National Review that the electric car industry

(23:04):
in America is really in a terrible state. If you remember,
back in November, Ford announced it is scaling back its
ev battery plant lower than expected demand. Now, as Ford
pulls back on its EV business, they're trying to push

(23:29):
sales of hybrid vehicles, and they've been cutting orders from
battery suppliers because of electric vehicle losses. If you can
believe this, there, electric vehicle losses are totaling one hundred
thousand dollars per EV for Ford. Let me say that again.

(23:54):
Ford is losing one hundred thousand dollars on every EV itsels.
Last year it was losing fifty thousand dollars per EV.
How the hell do you lose one hundred thousand dollars
on every single car they're making. So they're reducing spending

(24:14):
on battery powered evs by twelve billion dollars. They're cutting prices,
they're postponing or shrinking their battery plants. In fact, Ford
says they're going to lose five and a half billion
dollars on electric vehicles. The CEO, Jim Farley, says it's

(24:35):
the main drag on the whole company right now. Forg's
losses are so great it's going to wipe out the
profits it earns.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
From its.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Internal combustion engine department, the department that makes the bronco
and the hybrids. It's gonna wipe all the gas powered cars,
either partly or fully. Gas powered cars, that whole division,
all their profits are getting wiped out by the electric
vehicle unit. So the electric vehicle industry in America is

(25:13):
going bust. In the meantime, to try to force this
into electric vehicles, the California Resources Board is adding another
dollar's worth of gas taxes.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
On us for the next two years.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
They're gonna there is not even going to be an
alternative to gas powered cars eventually, because who's going to
This is the interesting question that somebody posed the other day.
If if they ban gas powered cars or put a
cap on the number of gas powered cars, but the
electric vehicles don't work and nobody wants them, what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Nobody has an.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Answer to that.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
We're gonna walk to work. We're gonna be riding horses,
maybe a little scooter.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, we're gonna be take scooters.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
All right, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Coming up after three o'clock. We're going to talk with
Nancy Iskender. Nancy is the mother of the two boys
who were killed by Rebecca Grossman, the wife of doctor
Peter Grossman, co founders of the Grossman Burn Center in
the Valley. She was the one who was drinking that
afternoon Westlake Village, September of twenty twenty and she ran

(26:34):
over Nancy's two Nancy's sons, Mark and Jacob, eleven and
eight years old. She got convicted a second degree murder.
She's awaiting sentencing now. The sentencing is maybe held up
because the prosecutors who got the conviction and we're working
on the sentencing argument, have been removed by George Gascone

(26:57):
because see you for follow this. Rebeca Zacka Grossman's attorney
is now the attorney for Gascones assistant Da Diana tehran
who's been charged with eleven felonies illegal use of sheriff's
deputy records employment records. So Gascon's top lieutenant, Diana Teharan

(27:20):
has been charged with eleven felonies. She's using James Spurtis,
same attorney the Rebecca Grossman is using, and it's really
confounding here. You know they're yelling conflict of interest. Well,
the conflict of interests is with Spurtus. Why would you
remove the prosecutors who represent in effect, the Iskander family.

(27:45):
It's it's headshaking, but not I guess another day in
business for gascone.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
We'll talk to you at Nancie Aeskinder coming up after
three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
We've mentioned a couple of times during the show about
this fifty cent a gallon gas tax that's coming for
twenty twenty five, and then another fifty cents in twenty
twenty six. This is all from the California Air Resources Board.
You may want to know this. Thenews site californiaglobe dot
com has this story. The California Air Resources Board has
been sent a letter by sixteen hundred scientists sixteen hundred scientists,

(28:23):
and the headline is there is no climate crisis in
California and whether the temperature is going up or not.
They say that modest warming in California is beneficial, not
a cause for concern, because globally more people die from
the cold than from the heat. That's been true for

(28:44):
almost twenty five years. They say an increase in temperature
is good for agricultural production. You have a longer growing
season and you have more carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide is
essential because plants need carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide is beneficial,
it increases their growth, the plant growth, food production, and

(29:08):
drought resistance. They say California is in no danger of
unusual drought. The annual precipitation has fluctuated greatly over one
hundred and fifty years, but really only a slight decrease.
Ski resorts had more snow. Most ski resorts in California
had increasing snowfall from twenty twelve to twenty twenty three.
California is in no danger of massive flooding from the

(29:31):
Pacific Ocean. The highest rate of sea level is in
North spit California, and that's been only one and a
half feet over the last one hundred years, which you
can easily mitigate. There are less natural disasters. The number
of wildfires and acres burned in the US and globally
significantly reduced. California has very rarely has tornadoes, no landfall

(29:56):
hurricanes for the last one hundred and fifty years, and
air quality in California keeps getting better. Major pollutants have decreased.
In conclusion, says this group, there's no climate crisis in California.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
What if all this has been hysteria.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
We've had a lot of hysterias the last few years,
race hysteria, anti police hysteria, transgender hysteria, climate change hysteria,
Trump hysteria. What if all this stuff is just people
with emotional disorders grouping together through the Internet and organizing
and acting out and creating political movements and making wild,

(30:39):
unprovable and untrue claims. What if years from now we
look back and we wonder why did everybody go crazy?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Who started this? Why did they start this?

Speaker 5 (30:55):
All?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
When we come back, we're going to talk about Nancy
Iskander's sons were killed back in twenty twenty by Rebecca Grossman. Now,
Rebecca Grossman's attorney is the same attorney as Gascone's top
assistant DA and so Gascone has removed the prosecutors from
the Iskander case, the Rebecca Grossman case, as they were

(31:18):
working on sentencing. Why talk to Nancy Iskander when we
come back, Deborah mark Lyden the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You
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