September 20, 2023 • 51 mins
The Game Preview Podcast presented by Lifelock is back with Ethan Greenberg and Cynthia Frelund. They first break down if this is a must-win game for the New York Jets (2:30), the Patriots' defensive game plan (4:45) and how the Patriots offense has changed under Bill O'Brien (10:20). They next breakdown the Jets offensive approach (15:25), and we hear an exclusive interview between Robert Saleh and Eric Allen leading up to the game (18:20). They wrap up the show with a game of Mad Libs about the Jets vs Patriots matchup (31:00), and give their lock of the week (46:15).
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to another episode of the Game Preview Podcast presented
by LifeLock Ethan Greenberg. Cynthia Freeland, as always in the
home studio, now it looks like the real home studio
of Cynthia Freeland.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well done, Cynthia sands flood, We've got the internet. Life
is good, no floods, no internets. Week three is looking aokay.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And what is the weather out in Hermosa Beach, California?
Just really stick it all in New York fans, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's like seventy five and sunny, and there's like just
a smile breeze.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
That's pretty beautiful.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Okay, Well, let's bring in John Polano right off the top,
because as someone who is from New York Rochester the Rock,
as they say Polano, isn't this weather in New York
like prime?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Like this is what I get excited for. This is
football weather.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I will take sixty degrees, the light breeze. The leaves
are starting to crinkle every day.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Of the week.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
If I can wear longs and longs and be comfortable,
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
If I have to slap on a quarter zip or
a pullover or a hoodie, I'm weighing.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Oh, no, shame in that I'm throwing on the hoodie,
maybe no shirt, maybe a shirt underneath.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
It's just, oh, it's the best time of the.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Year, Cynthia. Do you get that out in California or
just not anymore?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Not so much, although I do love it, and I
do miss fall if I had to say, like there's
fall in New York especially, but I will take winter
in southern California and give up following New York because I.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Feel like I put in my time. I'm from Michigan.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I've done with the.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Coles over it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, we'll bring back in John Palana later. We have
a loaded show, okay. And before we check in with
you in a little bit, this is what we have
on tap. Cynthia and I are gonna go over Jets
Pass a little bit. We're gonna talk about what's different
about this game, how big of a game this is
for the New York Jets. And we're gonna hear from
coach Sala, who caught up with Eric Allen earlier this week.
(01:53):
Instead of doing name that Jet, which Cynthia and I
just absolutely crushed last week, We're gonna do a little
of a mad Lab and then we'll go on from there.
So with that being said, Cynthia, this game is interesting
to me. The Jets are one and one. They have
a chance to be two and oh in the division,
a chance to be two and oh in the conference,
(02:14):
but yet Jets fans kind of still feel like the
world is crashing down around them because they lost thirty
to ten in Dallas to a very good team. What's
your take on how much of a quote unquote for
those listening must win game this is for the New
York Jets.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, it's always a must win. I feel like there's every.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Games a must win game when you only have seventeen
in an entire season, So.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yes, it's all a must win game.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But it's an especially must win game because the Patriots,
the division rival, are kind of down some corners, so
if you're gonna take it, you gotta get back on. Look,
the Cowboys are really hot right now, and the fact
that they only lost thirty to ten after everything that's
happened on a short week with a lot of changes,
(03:03):
I actually think it was positive because when you rewatch
that game, there were a lot of really good things happening.
So just don't look at this score necessarily and move
forward and say, Okay, in this game, let's focus on
if we can have a nice connection between quarterback and
pass catchers and exploit the fact that the Patriots are
missing some pieces in their secondary and when you saw
(03:25):
them miss those pieces last week, they were giving up
a bunch of yak and that's a good thing for
the Jets.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And going off of that, though, can we talk about
Christian Gonzales a little bit because I feel like last
week when he gets the pick on Tua, the Twitter
timeline was like, oh, how could this guy again fall
to seventeen to be in Bill Balichick's defense?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Like, what's the book on Christian Gonzales?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I mean, Christian Gonzales sacked Jalen Hurts the first week too.
He's just good, Like, let's just like he's a really
good player. I act actually was very surprised he fell
to seventeen just in general, because every single team could
use an extra corner.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Maybe not the Jets, but everyone.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You see the difference between the pre sauce and the
post sauce defense, and it's.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Pretty big deal.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So there were probably sixteen teams that are like, well,
we could have used this guy at least a few
of them, so I was surprised that he fell to them.
But the reality is is scheme matters, and who you're
coached by matters. So in the same way that Sauce
benefits from a guy like Robert Sala being his coach,
so too does Christian Gonzalez benefit from the fact that
Bill Belichick, who everyone's like defensive mastermind, who's playing chess
(04:36):
everyone else is playing checkers. Like that helps Christian Gonzalez
as well.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What about the injuries that you kind of alluded to
earlier in terms of the Patriots secondary that the Jets
offense could potentially exploit.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, now you're not gonna be able to line Christian
Gonzalez up in the same spot to be able to
get that coverage sack. You're just gonna have to play
a little bit more conservatively, so that type of thing
and exploiting the fact that, like you know, they're going
to have to drop back in coverage because they don't
have numbers, so they won't be able to be quite
as aggressive. That's a big deal because we know that
with time.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Zach Wilson, especially to you know, another guy.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Named Wilson is a very very difficult combination to defend.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And for what it's worth, Christian Gonzales had an eighty
two point six PFF grade, which was third among rookies.
His eighty one PFF grade for the season leads rookies
at sixth in the NFL, sixth among all cornerbacks with
at least fifty snaps. Definitely somebody that the Jets have
to worry about or keep an eye on at least
(05:40):
because what he's doing is a very impressive. And this
Patriots defense Cynthia is consistently good, right Like I think
Robert Sala and you'll hear from him in a minute.
He says this when he spoke to EA, that this
team is underrated the Patriots like people kind of like
right off the Patriots, it feels like, but this team
(06:00):
is still fundamentally sound and they don't turn the ball
over a whole lot. Maybe they're not as explosive on
offense as they once were, but that does not mean
they're a bad team.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I also think that, like the division in general is
so difficult that just because they might be the fourth
best team in this division, like that still means that.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
If you put them in a.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That doesn't necessarily mean that if you put them in
another division they would be even second worst. Way like
they would be a lot better if they perhaps were
in the NFC North or something like that. Right, So,
you know, the reality is is, unfortunately for the Patriots,
the fact that they don't have a world beater quarterback
ahead of the season, or two running or two wide receivers.
(06:43):
Excuse me, that feel like you know Tyreek and Jalen
Waddell felt, then you probably saw a little bit more
of like well, Ken Bill. It really I don't necessarily
think that anyone was questioning the Patriots defense. I think
the questions were largely surrounding is Mac Jones the real deal?
Ken Bill O'Brien fix I'm putting that in quotation marks him?
(07:03):
Or you know, did Matt Patricia break him? Like these
silly things?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So I think that I don't think it was the
defense that was underrated. I think it was the offense.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, that's interesting, and so far through two games, the
offenses without Taekwon Thornton, who I guess, you know, I
don't really know what his role is in that New
England offense, and it feels like New England's got a
number of guys, but I don't really know who the
stable go to option is, and like is that guy
(07:33):
Hunter Henry?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I mean, I'm I think they're like Vegas, can we
have Jacobe Myers back?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You know that would be an interesting one, right, Like
you obviously saw Kendrick Bourne have a really breakout game
Week one two at trips to the end zone and
Haunter Henry's had two touchdowns and two games. So I
do actually think that, like the tight end is a
thing here because if you look at where Mac Jones
is great, it's on quick passes sometimes quick passes that
are within that short range, quick short passes that kind
(08:03):
of gets him on track. So when it's not Remindrick Stevenson,
it's probably Hunter Henry at this point, especially against the
Jets defense with a type of pressure that they're going
to be able to bring. But I don't know, you know,
it's it doesn't I'm gonna say, like it feels like
it's not Juju Smith Schuster. Yeah, but that's about all
I know, right, Like, Like I guess you thought Juju
(08:24):
was going to be a more instant impacts player, but
he wasn't even playing the full contingency of snaps.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So maybe he's I don't know, maybe he's not one hundred.
I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Like.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I wish Bill Belichick would would tell us.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But yeah, me too. I'll share whatever Bill tells me.
I'll share with coach Sala and.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Then great send it to the group chat.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, I'll send it to the group chat.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
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I think it's interesting though, because, like New England, I
think he was just asked about this in his press
conference today. Bill Belichick is like, what is the offensive identity?
And he goes, well, we've won games where we've passed
for three times and we've won games where we've passed
(09:33):
fifty times, So it's kind of like a chameleon attitude.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Bill O'Brien is now the play caller. That's new.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Hunter Henry leads the Patriots with eleven receptions and one
hundred and two receiving yards. But in terms of wide
receivers like this is this is where where I think
the Patriots offense is so interesting. It's top three receivers
as in terms of receptions and yards. The number one
is Hunter Henry at tight end. Number two is wide
(10:00):
receiver Kendrick Bourne. Number three is running back Ramandre Stevenson.
So clearly spread the ball to a number of different players.
There's just not like there's not that guy. There's not
that guy. And I don't know what that says about
an offense, but it's got to say something, right.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I think the thing is is where you like,
the big dramatic splits for Mac Jones have been with
play action and without play action, And now there's a
little asterisks there because you can't really get play action going.
And it's unfair to sort of judge a quarterback on
play action passing.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
If there's no run game to speak.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Of, right, so when you're looking at his ability and
last year when the run gate, when they weren't tricking
anybody with the run game, then it looked a little different.
But this year now that play action is back, and
if you look back to his first season with the
play action opportunities when they had a good run game going,
then things.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Were way different.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So if they can get play action going, then I
actually think it will ultimately probably be Kendrick Bourne based
on the routes that he's running. But again, the Dolphins
are able to bring the heat. Maybe they don't have
like some of these household names for pass rushers. And
we did actually see Bradley Chubb play a little bit
better this last game than he did the first game
against the Chargers, but you know, they were able to
(11:13):
bring a number of pressures his way and he was
able to use the outlet of Hunter Henry.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
But you know that's the same thing with the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
So like these are some like It hasn't been an
easy start for mac Jones in terms of the defenses
that he's faced, so you know it'll be it'll be
interesting to see, maybe not this week against the Jets,
but before that second meeting with the Jets, it will
be interesting to see against teams that aren't as mean
with the pass rush, if he's able to look a
little bit different or grow in a different way this season.
(11:43):
But you know, while you're still pass rushing, it's probably
still Hunter Henry.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's interesting because the Jets play the Patriots of course,
in Week three, then they don't go up to Foxborough
until Week seventeen, So obviously, like that, that's a big
gap of time between these two teams, and obviously the
football sea and will pretty much me most of the
hey will be in the bar and almost all of it.
Hopefully that Week eighteen game means something for both teams,
(12:08):
because that would be very exciting in Foxborough. I think
a lot of fans listening to this or watching this
will be surprised to hear that Mac Jones leads the
NFL in both completions with sixty six and attempts with
ninety six, which doesn't really feel like a Bill Belichick offense.
And I know that Bill's not calling the plays. Bill
O'Brien is, but it just feels like it's not the
(12:29):
same team and you're talking about good defenses. Well, the
Jets sacked Mac Jones last year twelve times six at
MetLife Stadium six and Foxborough Patriots feel like they're a
little banged up on the offensive line. This has righting
on the wall, Cynthia for like a get right game.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It feels like it right like, and you know, we've
seen weird things before.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You also have to make a note here.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
For mac Jones that they haven't been playing with the lead,
you know, Like the interesting part of about out both
of those games. I mean the first game they dug
themselves into a pretty significant hole against the Eagles, and
then the second game it was the same thing with
the I think they didn't have their first lead until
I don't know whatever, and then they lost it in
the fourth quarter, like very quickly. It was very back
and forth at that point. So they're not playing from
(13:16):
an advantage situation. Because obviously you really wouldn't like mac
Jones this early in the season to.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Have to throw that many passes.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Just no quarterback was like that, you know, like no
offensive coordinators like, let's go out there and have him
throw one hundred passes in two games.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Let's do that against these awesome defenses.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like that sounds great, Like that sounds like no recipe
for turnovers.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It sounds like you know nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And now he gets the Jets and welcome to the NFL,
Mac jo you know, like welcome to twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Three Mac Jones.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So it's it's a little you know, but I think
I will you have to give credit where credits due.
He does look to be improved this season, Like I'm
I think he's played considerably better. I think Bill O'Brien's
game planning has been significantly you know, less easy for
defenses to figure out. And you know, I don't want
I kind of want everyone to have a good quarterback
(14:07):
because I want to see like my chess game versus
your chess game, not like my team beat up on
your second string guys.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, I agree with that. I think it's it's interesting.
I'm so interested to see what this game will look like.
There's so much at stake here for the Jets. Obviously,
the Jets are one and one. They have a chance
to break their fourteen game losing skid against the New
England Patriots. If they do win the Jets on Sunday,
that means that the Patriots will have started zero to
three for the first time since two thousand and that
(14:38):
rookie Tom Brady at the time only made one appearance
as a backup. That new England team finished five and eleven.
How about this, Bill Belichick. For the first time in
his tenure with the Patriots, the Pats have not led
at any point through two games of the season. They're
one of three teams in the NFL to do to
not lead at any point in twenty twenty three. And
(15:00):
then here's the interesting number, which I mean, I think
all these are interesting, but the Patriots are one and
seventeen when allowing twenty five plus points. Since twenty twenty
the Jets have scored twenty five plus points just four
times with Zach Wilson as their starting signal caller. So
let me ask you this before we hear from coach Sala,
(15:21):
before we get to our mad libs. How did the
Jets get to this magic twenty five number?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Priest Hall, You know, like I think, the reality is
is to be smart about the play calling. We know
Zach Wilson has a great arm, there's no question, and
we know Garrett Wilson is the best catcher in football
like that he already had the season highlight. He already
give the man the SV already like it is there.
But you know, like look like we know that that's
the case. But the reality is is like control the football.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Ball control and not letting.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Mac Jones even have any opportunities or Amandre Stevenson, who
we know, I mean Ramondre Stevenson can use those ten
plus yard carries like very very significant, Like they can
figure it out even against the best defenses.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So the reality is to control the ball possession.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It may not look sexy, it may not be a
seventy yard bomb, you know, or let's hope it's not
a crazy end zone catch that requires Garrett Wilson to
have like like mind control tricks over the ball, like,
let's hope it's not that right like it is. He
was like inceptioning it. He's like, come back to me,
I will like who has better focus? You know, who
(16:29):
doesn't have eighty Garrett Wilson, That's what I'm saying. So
the truth is is, you know, control the ball possessions
and figuring out a really strong like short pass run
game and letting Brise Hall add some explosive plays before
you need them on early downs.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think is a great point. Breese Hall will be
making his Jets Patriots rivalry debut Sunday, which is it?
Which is big for me? And because I think that
that he could be a game change. I mean, you
saw it Monday night against the Bills in Week one.
He could put potentially be a big reason, just like
Garrett Wilson said on ESPN Radio with Barton Hahn, like,
(17:05):
there's a reason why the Jets drafted players like Garrett Wilson,
Sauce Gardner, Breeze Hall, et cetera to snap skids like that.
Garrett Wilson was like, I'm owing two against the Patriots.
That's unacceptable. I know that I walked into a situation
where the team was having already in the midst of
a skid. So he's here to snap it?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You said, mind control? And I just want to bring
this up before we hear from coach Sala. Have you
seen the movie Dinner for Schmucks.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
No, I need to see it, though it comes up
on my things every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm like, Oh, I can't need to watch that. It's good.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I thought that it was a direct I thought you
were pulling a line from there because in that movie
they talk about brain control and it's hilarious and I've I.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Have to watch it this week.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Plano, have you seen Dinner for Schmucks?
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I have not. Okay, I have not known all.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Right, Plana, were you born in the year two thousand?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I was.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I'm technically a nineties kid by about three months.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
My nineties kid by three months. So okay, well done that.
Don't ever say that again for this crowd. Okay, well,
you know it's better than two thousand, Cynthia, Right, it's
got to be.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Slightly. It's three months better than two thousand.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yes, it's three months better than two thousand.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Ouch.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, well sit on that. Don't go anywhere, because here's
Eric Allen with coach Sala in an exclusive interview.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Big picture, what do you think about where you're at
after two games one and one? And I'd make the
argument that you just probably played to the better teams
in the National Football League.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Yeah, No, it's we played some good ones. Obviously, We're
coming off of super exciting game Monday night and a
not so exciting game against Dallas. It's part of the
roller coaster of the football season. Part of the audiversity
that we'll have to face weekend and week out, and uh,
you know, the biggest thing is when you get knocked on,
you got to pick yourself up, dust off, and get
ready for the next one. We got a big game
(18:54):
this week with another division opponent, and that this organization,
we haven't been in a long time, so it's it's
a big one.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
How has your group handled the adversity day you play
that Monday night opener, you lose your starting quarterback after
four snaps, three reps, you spot them a time point lead,
you come back in its emotional victory. Then you go
short week, you play the Cowboys in a home opener,
you don't play up to your standards and they play
(19:22):
at such a high level.
Speaker 9 (19:23):
Yeah, you know, it's it's there's no excuses for anything. Obviously,
you got to you got to strap up. When you
got to strap up, you gotta strap up, and you
gotta go.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
And you know, we.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Were just to step off. It felt like both sides
of the ball, especially early. You know, in that first quarter,
we had many opportunities to get some third and manageable
situations either off.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
The field or to stay on the field.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
They did a really nice job executing staying on the field,
and we did not do a very good job executing
to stay on the field, and it leads to more
plays on one side of the ball, which leads to
exhaustion and a bunch of things at snowball. But again,
not making excuse is more of just trying to trying
to provide context. But you know, it's unfortunate the way
the game played out. It was a very odd game
(20:07):
and the way it played out. But you know, at
halftime still had ourselves with the coming out of the
locker room one score game with the ball, you still
feel like all the despite all the things that happened
in the first half, you still have a chance. But
it just, like I said, it was just one of
those unfortunate days and we just got to pick up
and do it again in.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
The plane afterwards, or maybe when you're trying to get
a couple of minutes sleep, do you think about the
Sauce play up the sideline where he steps in front
of CV, or maybe the zach where he's got Garrett
in then zone right before?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Yeah, do you think about those plays quickly?
Speaker 9 (20:43):
I mean, it is what it is, right, feel very
good about the fact. I mean, if yeah, he brings
that down, it's fourteen to ten, we're up, and the
whole game shifts, you know, the play caller calls it differently,
the quarterbacks thinking about it differently. It just everything changes.
But we make the play they did, and that was
kind of really the story of the game in the sunset,
(21:06):
every opportunity, every turning point that could have been had
during the game, and there's many turning points in a game,
whether noticed by the fans or not, but it just
seemed like every turning point went their way, which again
credit to them, they were on it.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
How important is rhythm and game flow for play callers
and the players.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Themselves, it's everything, you know.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
You look from an offensive perspective, I'd mentioned that at
the two minute warning, they had fifty plays of offense.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
And we had thirteen.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
At the two minute warning when we had that before
that two minute drive that led to a filbal. So
in thirteen plays, you're also talking about a couple of
second and longs, a couple of third downs, and so
you're you got maybe like seven or eight plays where
you're actually in normal football and where you can runner pass,
and it's just you're not going to get a lot
(21:55):
of opportunity. You're not going to get into a flow.
We hadn't even gotten out of our first fifteen plays yet.
Were in the first fifteen you're trying to learn about
the defense and you're trying to gather information. So there's
just so much information. So you go into the second
half and you still don't know anything because you haven't
had any plays to really identify. You haven't been able
to execute your game plan. So it does it's very
disruptive to the flow, especially when a lead is is
(22:19):
growing and you're trying to make the changes you need
to make, but you're just you know, the information isn't
all there yet.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
How much do you welcome a traditional week? You open
up Monday night football and then it's a short week
in Dallas. Now it's finally week three and you have
a full week.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
No, it's good to get a routine. I guess you
could say where it's a typical off day and then
you got Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then play game
on Sunday at one o'clock.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
It's typical, but it's.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Also enjoyable to have those night games and those four
o'clock games because it means irrelevant, you're doing something. But
you know, we've got to take care of business and
make sure that we still approach each game like we
always do.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
How tricky is the offense puzzle?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
You got a coordinators implementing his system, you got a
young quarterback who's learning the system, you have an outstanding
running back who's coming back from a knee injury, and
you have an offensive line that is playing just as
third game together.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Yeah, it's no excuses, right, But we knew there was
gonna be some hiccups along the way. But I don't
look at the Dallas game as a hiccup, you know,
just they like I said, it was a series of
unfortunate events that led to a lot of just not
a great game from anybody, but still excited about the
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direction we're going. We had, like I said, a very
good training camp, albeit Aaron was getting the reps.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
But Zach's capable.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
I think he showed that in the first half, you know,
I think he showed that through three quarters.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
And despite the fact that it was.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Under duress pretty much the entire game. And more credit
to those guys than anything else. But you know, so we're,
like I said, you got to get back up on
the horse and get get going again. And you know,
we've got to put that game behind us and look
forward to to what we got next, which is New
England specifically.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Though, what did you like about sex game? I mean
that first past to lazarready put it right there on target.
You talk about Garrett's touchdown before the end of the
first half, is when that pressure was coming towards him.
He was calm there with his feet and he used
his legs and he talked after the game about seeing
it real.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
Well, yeah, I thought he did a really nice job.
The things to be excited about. His pocket presence was
much better, He stood in there and delivered strikes.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
His accuracy was.
Speaker 9 (24:37):
Much better, his timing, his footwork and rhythm was much better.
Even in the third quarter, again, we just didn't get
a lot of opportunities, had to fumble, had a three
and out. But it wasn't until the fourth quarter when
he was trying to force things to make things happen,
that things kind of got out of whack. But I
just thought for the most part, it was even though
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you can't really see it at goes very promising.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Speaking of promising, I want to go back to your
defense just for a second. You open up against Baltimore
last year and then Cleveland, I believe was Week two,
and they had their moments, but they started hitting their
stride later when you look at like the first two games.
Outstanding Week one and then obviously Dallas played very well offensively.
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But is there reason to think that this defense is
just getting started.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
Yeah, Dallas was outstanding, you know, and like I said,
we're maybe a step off if you want to give it,
but you know, credit to Dallas, to McCarthy, took over
a lot of unscouted looks in terms of just them
implementing in their scheme with the guys that they've had
there for a while. And but at the same time,
there's we had many opportunities to take advantage of.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
That football game.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
We had saw force the fumble that you know, again
credit to them, O Lineman running thirty yards downfield, hustling.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Interception for a touchdown was right there. We had an unfortunate.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Rough in the passer penalty on JFM that is questionable
that that's a five point difference. So there's just a
lot of little things in that first half that kind of.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Took a toll.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
But at the same time, like we got a good defense,
and and if a team has to play like that
to put up thirty, well good for you, you know,
And it's uh and they are gaining credit to them.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
They played outstanding. But I'll still put our money in
on us more often than not.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
How about the red zone defense, they won't go two
to six. There was one point they had first in
goal from the one and they didn't get it.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Yeah, we always we always say give us a blade
of grass and we'll protect it.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
Right, that's kind of the mindset.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
And you know, especially in the second half, there are
some short fields obviously with the takeaways and all that stuff.
But I thought I thought defense played its tail off
all the way to the end. Obviously we gave up
the two touchdowns, one of them I think was undeserving,
but it is what it is, and you know, so
it was we fought, the players fought, and at testament
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to the red zone defense and be able to stand
up to keep them out of the end zone and
to hold them the field goals.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
And you know, so it's.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
If there's one thing I know about that we know
about our guys on defense and often end this locker room.
It's just a resilient bunch and they'll continue to fight
until the end.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
So the Patriots are coming to town. You got a
chance to go to you know, inside a division. You
said Monday that this team is underrated when you're talking
about the Patriots, can you speak to that?
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
First, first of all, they've got tremendous continuity from a
coaching staff standpoint. You know, they've all been there for
a while, so they know what they're coaching and every
snake in the grass because they've been together so long
and they've been they've implemented their schemes, they've seen everything,
and they know how to They know how to game
plan in a way that fits their style of play.
And they have players who have been there long enough
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to know it too. So they're very sound. They're very disciplined.
They play a very patient style of football. You know,
you look from an offensive standpoint, everyone's trying to talk
about their demise, but they've played two of the better
defenses in football, and they put they had eighty two
plays against Philadelphia, they had seventy five against.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Miami.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
So they're hold they're possessing the ball, they're moving the ball,
albeit it may not look explosive, but they're moving the football.
They play clean and then defensively they have one of
the one of the top units in football, very underrated unit. Again,
Philadelphia is an explosive offense that they kind of held
that they held down, and same thing with Miami. And
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so it's a much better football team than people probably
give it credit for. And it's going to definitely be
a tremendous challenge on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
I'm not going to talk schematically about your plan, but
you talked after the game immediately in Dallas about, Hey,
they played a lot of single high, they loaded the box.
Do you anticipate New England doing that or they're such
a chameleon themselves as you never know what they cox.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Yeah, well we'll we'll see.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
And and the reality is, it doesn't matter whether they're
too high, one high, five down linemen, four down linemen.
You got to be able to execute your plan, whether
it's running the ball, passing the ball, whatever you might
whatever you might try to do it, you still got
to go down to execu You still got to block
the manifrontia. You still got to get the ball to
where it needs to get to and you still got
to be able to find the holes when you if
you're running it. So you know they've they've got their
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style of play. They are multiple, but at the same time,
it still comes back to us and our ability to
execute at a high level. And uh and when we
do that, we're pretty damn good too. And uh and
that's gonna that's really the key.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
What did you think about the atmosphere at your place
in week one? What do you anticipate the environment is
going to be here at MetLife on Sunday? And also
how much of a factor can the crowd bit?
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Uh, crowd is a big is a big factor.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
I'm telling you that that stadium, Uh, knock on wood.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I have.
Speaker 9 (30:08):
I've been in every single stadium and every environment that
you can imagine, and that was as good and good
of environment as I've ever been in. I mean, it
was unbelievable. And I've been in some really cool stadiums,
and but you know, the fans, fans, you know, when
I was in Seattle, like that twelfth Man was real
crowd noise affecting the game, being affecting the game in
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a positive way, and and I felt like in Week
one our fans definitely affected the game in a positive way,
and I'm excited for them to do it again this week.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Welcome back to the Gay Preview Podcast presented by LifeLock.
That was EA coach, solid, great stuff from both of
those guys. John Plano in the house. It's time for
mad lips, Cynthia. This is a new segment, so we're
gonna give it a test drive. You ready to roll?
Love it all right? Plano fired up.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
So one of my favorite parts of sports journalism is
that we listened to all these guys talk all week,
Robert Salah, oh S, Nathaniel Hackett, d C, Jeff Albrick.
But we can only get so much game plan from them,
So why not just like design our own using mad links.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Does that not sound like a good idea?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
It's like a great idea.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Yeah. So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I'm going to ask We're gonna go back and forth
between both of you, So Cynthia and then Ethan, I'm
just gonna ask you for a player or a unit
or so this first one Cynthia, I'm gonna ask you
for a Jets offensive player, and you're gonna give me
the player with no context whatsoever, and we're going to
stick them into a sentence and you I'm gonna read
the sentence out loud and it's gonna give some information
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and you can decide, Wow, that's maybe not the best
person for a situation, or maybe somebody you want to
put in that spot a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
But you can make arguments for both. That makes sense.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yeah, okay, all right, awesome, So Cynthia, can you give
me a Jets offensive player?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Alan Wizard?
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I love it, Allen Wizard.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
So the Patriots hell the Eagles to ninety seven yards
rushing in Week one, but surrendered one hundred and forty
five yards Dolphins in Week two. Allan Lazard needs to
have a big day on offense for the Jets to
have some similar success on the ground.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
How does that sound, Cynthia.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You know I could make the argument that blocking matters,
and also Alan Lazard like creating like like taking defenders
away creates more space to work with. So like I
give it like a C it's an average pull, but
like we could probably.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Do better and and wait, I'm gonna I'm gonna pick
you up here. If Alan Lazard is having a big
day through the air, that'll open up rushing lanes for
Breese Hall, Dalvin Cook and Michael Carter.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know, this is what we're doing here, We're picking
each other up.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But what did you just ask?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Who would you have.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Preferred to be in that spot? Who's really going to
help them run the ball?
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
If we like, I really feel like, I mean, I
would have gone inn O Ligneman just because then it's like, oh, yeah,
he's having a huge day, ah bah blah, because no
one likes to talk about aline.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I should have gone I should have done that.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well, you can do it right now. You can amend
the sentence. I think that Polano is giving you a
layup and you decided to like, you know what, I'll
just like not take the alive.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
We're good, We're good. I'll do the entire o line
having a day and then the run game will be great.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Let's do that, all right, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Can we just get a I'm gonna shout out Makai
Beck then, like, I'd love to see a McKay Beckton
pancake on Sunday one pm. It could be three pm,
as long as it's during the game. I need a
mackay Beckton pancake like I need pancakes on Sunday morning.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Absolutely catch Matthew Ethan. Can you give me a Patriots defender, please.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
A Patriots give me Matt Judon because we haven't spoken
about him with.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
It so last season, the Patriots defense was second in
turnovers forced with thirty. This year they have two takeaways
and two games. They just need to be aware of
Matthew Judon on the Patriots defense in order to avoid
turning the ball over.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I stand by that, because Matt Judon is a freakazoid. Yeah,
Cynthia as someone who covers the entire league a little
more closely than John Polano and myself, Matt Judon, he
I'm pretty sure I was reading somewhere if I can
find it, that he's like fourth in the NFL in
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terms of sacks since two thousand oh.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Hold On, he leads the Patriots with two sacks.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He has thirty sacks since twenty twenty one, which is
fourth in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Are the Jets more yep? And are they?
Speaker 8 (34:26):
Are?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
They Jets better suited to handle Matt Judon than maybe
last season.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Part of the reason why the Jets are better suited
to handle Matt Judon this year than last is, I mean,
every year that this offense is able again with your
guy mcai beeckt in there, that's helpful too, But every
year that this offense works in the same the more
the more you know re returning players and the more
they work together, the better off that they are and
the more that they see them. Remember, Matt Judon had
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come over from the Baltimore Ravens and was kind of
newer to the AFC East. He didn't grow up in
this in this division. So now he's able to they're
able to like they know what they're looking at right
like this this isn't a new entity for them, And
the more experience they have with him, the better off
they are, being like, oh, you know he does this
spin move or you know he's swe this swim move here,
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So that I think every year they'll just get better
and better at handling.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Him and Matt Judon one and a half sacks against
the Jets last season in two games, one of the
NFL's best pass rushers. I also saw a nice clip
of Joshua and I love saying whenever I get the
chance to say that, j It's a great name, Francisco.
Name that movie, John Pilano, I got nothing for you, Cynthia,
you know that movie? Right?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
No, we do not have movie buffs on this really
apparently not Elf. Oh my bad cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Wait, you've never seen ELF.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I love alf Oh yeah, that's from Alfas Francisco.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That's fun to say.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Oh my god, this is embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
All right, Well, just save Cynthy and I have the embarrassment.
We're gonna continue this one.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
I'm in a glass case full of emotion.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
You know that one? Oh, Cynthia, you know that right?
What what?
Speaker 6 (36:11):
This podcast is going off the rail. I've never seen anger.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Mantman to Last Weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, time out, time out.
I'm running down the sideline. John Plano has never seen Anchorman?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
What John?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
You have homework? My friend, You're out of school, but
you have homework.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I'm sorry. Maybe I'm a little too young. Maybe I
should be a two thousands kid.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Anyway, asked Cynthia the next Mad Live. Please, I need
a moment.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Cynthia, Are you ready? All right? Can you give us
a Jets defender? Please?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Can I give you a Jets Let's pick. I'm trying
to go, well, I'm gonna go Sauce.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Why not? I love Sauce. He's my favorite.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
Yikes, Okay, he said, yikes.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
So the Jets have six sacks in two games, while
the Dolphins drop Mac Jones four times. In Week two,
the Dolphins came in with four sacks. Sauce Gardener will
need to play well in order for the Jets to
create pressure.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
In fairness, defensive fronts and backs work together. So when
you're blanketing a receiver or any sort of pass catcher
hunter Henry, you're gonna need to take a few extra seconds.
And you know what happens in a few extra seconds.
If Sauce Gardener's all over someone a sack by someone else.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Like it, I'm gonna go B.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Okay, you're giving yourself a B. My letter grade was
probably like an eight plus. I have to give that
to you, But but what was it?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
How did you end that sentence? Sauce Gardener will.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Be crucial for the Jets to create pressure.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Okay, it could be be crucial for the Jets to
create turnovers because last week we almost or we did
see Sauce Gardner nearly have a pick six, which I
know we talked about it. You don't quite but you
think he might be going out of bounds plant.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Well, he said postgame that the reason he wasn't focused
on catching it was he was a little too focused
on trying to take it back to the house and
not go out of bounds on his way out.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
But sala Is like he's convinced it would have been
a pick six. Granted, in my mind it's a hypothetical.
So hypothetically he scored. He scored with the rock. He
scored with the rock. You know, make the narrative fit
for you.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
That's alright, I like it.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Hit me with the next one.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
All right, we're going back to the Pats. Okay, Pats
offensive player. We're in the defensive game plan.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Now an offensive player. Give me Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Ezekiel Elliott the newest Patriots so this year in New
England's seventy one percent touchdown success rate in the red
zone is tied for the fourth highest mark in the league.
While the Jets can counteract that with the number seven
best red zone defense at thirty seven point five percent conversion,
Ezekiel Elliott will give the Jets trouble on defense if
they do not game plan for him.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh well, I think the better answer would have been
Ramandre Stevenson just because he gets more of the workload.
But I'll give my I'll give it like a B
B minus.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
You know when he was in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I think you're going way too low because really the
only area Ezekiel Elliott has been actually effective in the
past few seasons has been the red area. So I think,
like what they've been doing is you know, we saw
Tony Pollard kind of was the guy get that got
you into the red area, and then Zeke was like
the finisher because they could push him easier.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
See this is why Cynthia and I are a great team.
She helps me out, I help her out. I actually
think it's interesting Tony Pollard last week. The Jets have
not allowed a rushing touchdown in twenty twenty three. That
number will obviously change over the course of eighteen games
or eighteen week seventeen games, but Tony Pollard, the Dallas
offense had forty plus attempts okay, rushing the football Tony
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Pollard average two point nine. The Cowboys average three point zero.
The Jets rushing defense has only been nine games since.
I don't remember what the year was, but in recent
memory where teams in the NFL have held opponents to
three to zero average or less and with forty plus attempts,
the Jets are one of those. The Jets are the
only team and last week Jets Cowboys was the only
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game forty plus attempts, three to zero or less average
and zero rushing touchdowns. Not to mention Cynthia, the Pats
rushing numbers not great. So this again seems like the
Jets will be able to play their brand of football.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, I mean like I said, and that also leads
to Mac Jones right, like, if they can't rush, play
actions work as well.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I think this is a good opportunity for the Jets defense.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Like I said it on Fantasy Live even I was like,
do not sleep on this Jets defense. I understand things
were looked wonky against the Cowboys last week, but that's
a really hard week just in general, short week lots
of changes.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
No, now we're going back to the Jets. You are
playing them in fantasy.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
How about this stat before we can see how many
more mad lops do we have?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
We have one bonus one and one one more game plan?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Okay, so how about this stat? Jets defense last year, Cynthia,
weeks one and two ranked twenty fifth in the NFL
points per game allowed, with twenty seven weeks three through eighteen,
which is where we are currently in the NFL season,
seventeen and a half points per game allowed. That ranked
second in the NFL. It takes time, that's all I'm saying.
It takes too.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
You don't mess with the Jets defense. No, no, no,
that's kind.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Of a rhyme. I like that.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
You don't mess with the Jets defense.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I like it all right, fired up.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Might have to put that on a shirt. So, Cynthia,
any player on the Jets roster.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
A player, that's all.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Anybody?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Okay, So we haven't taught, like what do we trying
to think?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Like I thought you would, you were going to want
to go with one of your faves, like Elijah Arra
Tucker or John Franklin.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Say, Elijah Ara Tucker that was actually the one I
was thinking.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I think it's a sign. Are you going with Avt?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Then I'm doing it. We both thought it so absolutely.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
So this is just kind of a final point.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
The Patriot's off to anh and two star for the
first time since two thousand and one. As Ethan said,
Elijah Vera Tucker will come up with the biggest play
of the game to send the Patriots to an oh
and three start for the first time since two thousand
and when it was Bill Belichick's first season as coach
of the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Nobody loves the big man touchdown more than me.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I implore you to find a big man touchdown that's
loved by anyone more than me.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
So hey, but what did av T need to dress
as like an extra offensive lineman out wide? Like as a.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Word, these details if you come like something weird.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Could happen, and then he catches it, and then I
touch it.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I got I got it. Cynthia, you ready for this?
Just like Jet's con Okay, this is this is what
I imagine in the meeting room downstairs, Jets cowboys, they're
watching the film. They're like, look at Tyler Beattish rolling down,
running behind.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Whoever the ball got stripped from. I don't remember who.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
He falls on the ball, the Jets don't recover, Sauce
rips it out. Av T has that burn in his mind.
Breese Hall or Dalvin Cook or whoever is running down
the sideline and who's hustling out in front, just like
Denver in week seven when unfortunately he tore his tri
steps Elijah Vera Tucker, as John Polano noted last week,
Solomon Elijah Vera Tucker is rolling down the sidelines, the
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ball comes out, Avt scoops that thing up, He scores,
Jets win. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
That was poetry. Love that poetry.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
And yeah, just was actually when I was thinking about too,
just so you know.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah we figured that.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
But just like the pass last week, col Strange almost
picked up a massive first down for them, ok against
the Miami Dolphin, So definitely possible. I have one more
for you guys. It is just kind of a bonus
one less football related.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
But do we both answer?
Speaker 6 (43:37):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
I'm gonna give you guys the sentence first, and you're
both gonna you're both gonna give either combined answer your
separate answers. So the new one Patriots maybe the Jets
biggest rival in the NFL. But John Polano loves Akenoli
from the North End. Shout out Cafe Dallas Sport, absolutely fantastic. Well,
you guys are going out to eat in Boston, Cynthia
Freelan and Ethan Greenberg are picking.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Up a oh, this is just like a fun there's
some yeah, some Boston food, some Boston food. I'm not
all too.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Familiar, euzy, so this one's a little easier for.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Me than for most.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know my answer.
Is it a type of cuisine or like a specific dish.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
Anything, clam chowder, canole is anything.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It's like, what are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Okay, there's two places.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
My mind goes Fanuel Hall to get doing cam chowder
out for bread ball, mostly just like the bread ball
in that situation, because I mean it's fun and who's.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Like fel in the North End?
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Okay, yeah, okay, yep.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
And then you could also go to Mike's Pastry and
get literally anything.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
There so good.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Okay, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Nor like the seafood Italian seafood there is really good.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Okay, well one, I just really want to say chicken
Pam because I love chicken palm and I needed to
throw in a chicken pam if I could too. Is
if I'm actually answering your question, I know nothing about
Boston cuisine in terms of but but I will go
to Fanuel Hall and I will get what is it
the Boston Chipyard?
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Is that the cookie spot?
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Because my dad is obsessed with those and he used
to bring home like tins of them. I'm gonna google
this Boston Chipyard. Yeah, the Boston Chipyard, I think, oh, yeah,
there it is. So I'm gonna go to the Boston Hipyard.
I'm gonna get some cookies for the family. I'm gonna
eat a couple on the way back home. And also
fun fact, I have a bottle of Coca Cola in
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my room from Fanuel Hall two thousand and six. I
purchased it with the starting six Red Sox lineup on
it and batting lead off. It's Coco crisp. I love it,
and uh yeah, it became a joke like among my friends,
like why haven't you consumed this bottle? And it's definitely flat,
but we're gonna drink it soon. Next time we golf,
(45:50):
my friend Brian and I so shout out to coffee.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Maybe just a sip, how about that, we'll make.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
May I appreciate you guys indulging.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
In John Polano drinking an honor of his birthday because
that was like the same year he was born.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
You know, yeah, Cynthia Digham Digham, all.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Right, you know I love you John Polano. If I
didn't love you, it wouldn't make fun of you.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
That's a good sign. Polano. You're staying on for our
final segment, Cynthia, we got one more. Because this is
the Game Preview podcast presented by LifeLock. Give me a
lock of the week. Doesn't have to be Jets, doesn't
have to be Jets Patriots. It could be maybe a
team that you like to upset. Maybe it could be
a fantasy lock that you think is a great matchup.
(46:34):
I want your lock of the week, and again, it
could be Jets Patriots related, it could be something totally different.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna stay away from
this Jets Patriots tilt for things that I feel are locked,
because truly, this one feels like it's six of one,
half a dozen of another right. It could easily like
the defenses will dictate this and the defense of the
strength of both teams. So I'm gonna stay away from
this one, although I do think that the Jets do
end up winning it, but that's like gut and the
math is all over the lights.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
There's a lot of volatility there.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
But one that I think people are sleeping on or
maybe giving a little bit too much credit to for
the Lions being a preseason favorite. I think the Lions
are way too favored against the Falcons, and I'm looking
at the Falcons coming to town and Bijon Robinson running
all over your life. And by the way, I just
checked the injury report Corderio Patterson. You know, he's always
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like a thing. In the beginning of the season. He
hasn't been playing, but he's somehow on like track to
potentially be active, which just means that it's gonna mess
up your fantasy life if you have Vjon but Tyler
Algier still there. You know Arthur Smith, he runs the
ball fifty five percent of the time, that's the most
in the NFL. The Lions are now missing James Houston,
so the pass rush is gonna look different situationally, and
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also their O line for the Falcons is great. The
Lions oh line, they were missing their left tackle Taylor
Decker last week, so that's part of what happened with Seattle.
I don't think that, you know, the if it we're
likning it to the stock market.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I don't think that.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
We've we've reached the right like it hasn't settled yet,
right like the Adam Smith invisible hand hasn't settled it yet.
And I think that the Falcons go in to ford
Field and for the second week in a row, all
of those people from Michigan, my home state, are like,
come the frick on this again, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
And I just noticed that Almen Ross Saint Brown also
on the injury report day to day with a toe issue,
So that's feeding fuel.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
You have to if you're gonna lock that in, lock
it in now before anything adjust. Not that I know
what any of that I just said means, but I
would lock this in.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
You know, this is why you listen to the preview podcast.
Do you get the good stuff early?
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Don't wait till Sunday. You won't You won't be able.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
To get that, and just to help you out here,
Cynthia doesn't know like she knows those are betting terms
that she's heard other intelligent people say. That's why she's saying.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
She's not saying she does that because she she does
not do that.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I am very I am one hundred percent in compliance
with art. We do all those trainings. I am like
number one listening. I like listen and participate and click
all the things.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
All right, that's how we end the game preview podcast.
Any closing words for you?
Speaker 5 (49:01):
Plano just shout out to my mom from Northeastern. I
of course I worked for New York Jets, but I
love Boston and my parents grew up there, and so
go Celtics, but no Patriots.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
That might be the last time I give you a
shout out.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
At the end, Johns mom, I'm dead. I feel bad.
I just made fun of him. I don't mean to
John Plano's mom. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I love John Pilano's mom, I love John Plano's dad.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
You know the parents are in it. I don't think
it was a bad make fun of it.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
I just feel bad now because that was the sweetest
thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
You should not feel bad for that because Pilano on
New York platforms just shouted out Boston.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Let alone Jet's Patriots. He shouted out Boston.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
No, he shout out his mom and his mom's job.
Speaker 6 (49:46):
Like, it's different.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
It's different.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
To Marianne Freeland, you know Marianna's art. Freeland is from Yonker.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
So my dad is a New Yorker, you know, like
mom is from me. Dad's from New York.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
We clearly one side of my family got it right.
The other side of little little Hillbilly, but we're getting Do.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
You want to shout any family?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Well, I want to shout out somebody in honor of
our producer Matt Sickoff, who had his birthday yesterday. Round
of flaws for Matt Sitcoff and Bunny Sitcoff shout out
to the Yeah, of course. So no, I have no
shout outs. Oh well, my dad, Hal Greenberg loves cookies. No, no, no,
(50:28):
no shout out to my dad.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
He loves cookies. It's where I get it from.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Thank you. My mom can have a shout out when
the time is appropriate, because there will be game preview
podcasts around her birthday.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
This.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, you know, I can't I get me just blowing
shout out? You know what I mean. You got to
save something for the holster. Here, I'm saving the mom
shout out. That's the perfect way to end Week three
Game Preview podcast presented by LifeLock Jet Patriots Week three
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Welcome to another episode of the Game Preview Podcast presented
by LifeLock Ethan Greenberg. Cynthia Freeland, as always in the
home studio, now it looks like the real home studio
of Cynthia Freeland.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well done, Cynthia sands flood, We've got the internet. Life
is good, no floods, no internets. Week three is looking aokay.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And what is the weather out in Hermosa Beach, California?
Just really stick it all in New York fans, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's like seventy five and sunny, and there's like just
a smile breeze.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
That's pretty beautiful.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Okay, Well, let's bring in John Polano right off the top,
because as someone who is from New York Rochester the Rock,
as they say Polano, isn't this weather in New York
like prime?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Like this is what I get excited for. This is
football weather.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I will take sixty degrees, the light breeze. The leaves
are starting to crinkle every day.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Of the week.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
If I can wear longs and longs and be comfortable,
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
If I have to slap on a quarter zip or
a pullover or a hoodie, I'm weighing.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Oh, no, shame in that I'm throwing on the hoodie,
maybe no shirt, maybe a shirt underneath.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
It's just, oh, it's the best time of the.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Year, Cynthia. Do you get that out in California or
just not anymore?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Not so much, although I do love it, and I
do miss fall if I had to say, like there's
fall in New York especially, but I will take winter
in southern California and give up following New York because I.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Feel like I put in my time. I'm from Michigan.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I've done with the.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Coles over it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, we'll bring back in John Palana later. We have
a loaded show, okay. And before we check in with
you in a little bit, this is what we have
on tap. Cynthia and I are gonna go over Jets
Pass a little bit. We're gonna talk about what's different
about this game, how big of a game this is
for the New York Jets. And we're gonna hear from
coach Sala, who caught up with Eric Allen earlier this week.
(01:53):
Instead of doing name that Jet, which Cynthia and I
just absolutely crushed last week, We're gonna do a little
of a mad Lab and then we'll go on from there.
So with that being said, Cynthia, this game is interesting
to me. The Jets are one and one. They have
a chance to be two and oh in the division,
a chance to be two and oh in the conference,
(02:14):
but yet Jets fans kind of still feel like the
world is crashing down around them because they lost thirty
to ten in Dallas to a very good team. What's
your take on how much of a quote unquote for
those listening must win game this is for the New
York Jets.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, it's always a must win. I feel like there's every.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Games a must win game when you only have seventeen
in an entire season, So.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yes, it's all a must win game.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But it's an especially must win game because the Patriots,
the division rival, are kind of down some corners, so
if you're gonna take it, you gotta get back on. Look,
the Cowboys are really hot right now, and the fact
that they only lost thirty to ten after everything that's
happened on a short week with a lot of changes,
(03:03):
I actually think it was positive because when you rewatch
that game, there were a lot of really good things happening.
So just don't look at this score necessarily and move
forward and say, Okay, in this game, let's focus on
if we can have a nice connection between quarterback and
pass catchers and exploit the fact that the Patriots are
missing some pieces in their secondary and when you saw
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them miss those pieces last week, they were giving up
a bunch of yak and that's a good thing for
the Jets.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And going off of that, though, can we talk about
Christian Gonzales a little bit because I feel like last
week when he gets the pick on Tua, the Twitter
timeline was like, oh, how could this guy again fall
to seventeen to be in Bill Balichick's defense?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Like, what's the book on Christian Gonzales?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I mean, Christian Gonzales sacked Jalen Hurts the first week too.
He's just good, Like, let's just like he's a really
good player. I act actually was very surprised he fell
to seventeen just in general, because every single team could
use an extra corner.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Maybe not the Jets, but everyone.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You see the difference between the pre sauce and the
post sauce defense, and it's.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Pretty big deal.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So there were probably sixteen teams that are like, well,
we could have used this guy at least a few
of them, so I was surprised that he fell to them.
But the reality is is scheme matters, and who you're
coached by matters. So in the same way that Sauce
benefits from a guy like Robert Sala being his coach,
so too does Christian Gonzalez benefit from the fact that
Bill Belichick, who everyone's like defensive mastermind, who's playing chess
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everyone else is playing checkers. Like that helps Christian Gonzalez
as well.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What about the injuries that you kind of alluded to
earlier in terms of the Patriots secondary that the Jets
offense could potentially exploit.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, now you're not gonna be able to line Christian
Gonzalez up in the same spot to be able to
get that coverage sack. You're just gonna have to play
a little bit more conservatively, so that type of thing
and exploiting the fact that, like you know, they're going
to have to drop back in coverage because they don't
have numbers, so they won't be able to be quite
as aggressive. That's a big deal because we know that
with time.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Zach Wilson, especially to you know, another guy.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Named Wilson is a very very difficult combination to defend.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And for what it's worth, Christian Gonzales had an eighty
two point six PFF grade, which was third among rookies.
His eighty one PFF grade for the season leads rookies
at sixth in the NFL, sixth among all cornerbacks with
at least fifty snaps. Definitely somebody that the Jets have
to worry about or keep an eye on at least
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because what he's doing is a very impressive. And this
Patriots defense Cynthia is consistently good, right Like I think
Robert Sala and you'll hear from him in a minute.
He says this when he spoke to EA, that this
team is underrated the Patriots like people kind of like
right off the Patriots, it feels like, but this team
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is still fundamentally sound and they don't turn the ball
over a whole lot. Maybe they're not as explosive on
offense as they once were, but that does not mean
they're a bad team.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I also think that, like the division in general is
so difficult that just because they might be the fourth
best team in this division, like that still means that.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
If you put them in a.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That doesn't necessarily mean that if you put them in
another division they would be even second worst. Way like
they would be a lot better if they perhaps were
in the NFC North or something like that. Right, So,
you know, the reality is is, unfortunately for the Patriots,
the fact that they don't have a world beater quarterback
ahead of the season, or two running or two wide receivers.
(06:43):
Excuse me, that feel like you know Tyreek and Jalen
Waddell felt, then you probably saw a little bit more
of like well, Ken Bill. It really I don't necessarily
think that anyone was questioning the Patriots defense. I think
the questions were largely surrounding is Mac Jones the real deal?
Ken Bill O'Brien fix I'm putting that in quotation marks him?
(07:03):
Or you know, did Matt Patricia break him? Like these
silly things?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So I think that I don't think it was the
defense that was underrated. I think it was the offense.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, that's interesting, and so far through two games, the
offenses without Taekwon Thornton, who I guess, you know, I
don't really know what his role is in that New
England offense, and it feels like New England's got a
number of guys, but I don't really know who the
stable go to option is, and like is that guy
(07:33):
Hunter Henry?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I mean, I'm I think they're like Vegas, can we
have Jacobe Myers back?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You know that would be an interesting one, right, Like
you obviously saw Kendrick Bourne have a really breakout game
Week one two at trips to the end zone and
Haunter Henry's had two touchdowns and two games. So I
do actually think that, like the tight end is a
thing here because if you look at where Mac Jones
is great, it's on quick passes sometimes quick passes that
are within that short range, quick short passes that kind
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of gets him on track. So when it's not Remindrick Stevenson,
it's probably Hunter Henry at this point, especially against the
Jets defense with a type of pressure that they're going
to be able to bring. But I don't know, you know,
it's it doesn't I'm gonna say, like it feels like
it's not Juju Smith Schuster. Yeah, but that's about all
I know, right, Like, Like I guess you thought Juju
(08:24):
was going to be a more instant impacts player, but
he wasn't even playing the full contingency of snaps.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So maybe he's I don't know, maybe he's not one hundred.
I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Like.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I wish Bill Belichick would would tell us.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But yeah, me too. I'll share whatever Bill tells me.
I'll share with coach Sala and.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Then great send it to the group chat.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, I'll send it to the group chat.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
No problem.
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I think it's interesting though, because, like New England, I
think he was just asked about this in his press
conference today. Bill Belichick is like, what is the offensive identity?
And he goes, well, we've won games where we've passed
for three times and we've won games where we've passed
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fifty times, So it's kind of like a chameleon attitude.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Bill O'Brien is now the play caller. That's new.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Hunter Henry leads the Patriots with eleven receptions and one
hundred and two receiving yards. But in terms of wide
receivers like this is this is where where I think
the Patriots offense is so interesting. It's top three receivers
as in terms of receptions and yards. The number one
is Hunter Henry at tight end. Number two is wide
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receiver Kendrick Bourne. Number three is running back Ramandre Stevenson.
So clearly spread the ball to a number of different players.
There's just not like there's not that guy. There's not
that guy. And I don't know what that says about
an offense, but it's got to say something, right.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I think the thing is is where you like,
the big dramatic splits for Mac Jones have been with
play action and without play action, And now there's a
little asterisks there because you can't really get play action going.
And it's unfair to sort of judge a quarterback on
play action passing.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
If there's no run game to speak.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Of, right, so when you're looking at his ability and
last year when the run gate, when they weren't tricking
anybody with the run game, then it looked a little different.
But this year now that play action is back, and
if you look back to his first season with the
play action opportunities when they had a good run game going,
then things.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Were way different.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So if they can get play action going, then I
actually think it will ultimately probably be Kendrick Bourne based
on the routes that he's running. But again, the Dolphins
are able to bring the heat. Maybe they don't have
like some of these household names for pass rushers. And
we did actually see Bradley Chubb play a little bit
better this last game than he did the first game
against the Chargers, but you know, they were able to
(11:13):
bring a number of pressures his way and he was
able to use the outlet of Hunter Henry.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
But you know that's the same thing with the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
So like these are some like It hasn't been an
easy start for mac Jones in terms of the defenses
that he's faced, so you know it'll be it'll be
interesting to see, maybe not this week against the Jets,
but before that second meeting with the Jets, it will
be interesting to see against teams that aren't as mean
with the pass rush, if he's able to look a
little bit different or grow in a different way this season.
(11:43):
But you know, while you're still pass rushing, it's probably
still Hunter Henry.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's interesting because the Jets play the Patriots of course,
in Week three, then they don't go up to Foxborough
until Week seventeen, So obviously, like that, that's a big
gap of time between these two teams, and obviously the
football sea and will pretty much me most of the
hey will be in the bar and almost all of it.
Hopefully that Week eighteen game means something for both teams,
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because that would be very exciting in Foxborough. I think
a lot of fans listening to this or watching this
will be surprised to hear that Mac Jones leads the
NFL in both completions with sixty six and attempts with
ninety six, which doesn't really feel like a Bill Belichick offense.
And I know that Bill's not calling the plays. Bill
O'Brien is, but it just feels like it's not the
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same team and you're talking about good defenses. Well, the
Jets sacked Mac Jones last year twelve times six at
MetLife Stadium six and Foxborough Patriots feel like they're a
little banged up on the offensive line. This has righting
on the wall, Cynthia for like a get right game.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It feels like it right like, and you know, we've
seen weird things before.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You also have to make a note here.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
For mac Jones that they haven't been playing with the lead,
you know, Like the interesting part of about out both
of those games. I mean the first game they dug
themselves into a pretty significant hole against the Eagles, and
then the second game it was the same thing with
the I think they didn't have their first lead until
I don't know whatever, and then they lost it in
the fourth quarter, like very quickly. It was very back
and forth at that point. So they're not playing from
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an advantage situation. Because obviously you really wouldn't like mac
Jones this early in the season to.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Have to throw that many passes.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Just no quarterback was like that, you know, like no
offensive coordinators like, let's go out there and have him
throw one hundred passes in two games.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Let's do that against these awesome defenses.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like that sounds great, Like that sounds like no recipe
for turnovers.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It sounds like you know nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And now he gets the Jets and welcome to the NFL,
Mac jo you know, like welcome to twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Three Mac Jones.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So it's it's a little you know, but I think
I will you have to give credit where credits due.
He does look to be improved this season, Like I'm
I think he's played considerably better. I think Bill O'Brien's
game planning has been significantly you know, less easy for
defenses to figure out. And you know, I don't want
I kind of want everyone to have a good quarterback
(14:07):
because I want to see like my chess game versus
your chess game, not like my team beat up on
your second string guys.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, I agree with that. I think it's it's interesting.
I'm so interested to see what this game will look like.
There's so much at stake here for the Jets. Obviously,
the Jets are one and one. They have a chance
to break their fourteen game losing skid against the New
England Patriots. If they do win the Jets on Sunday,
that means that the Patriots will have started zero to
three for the first time since two thousand and that
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rookie Tom Brady at the time only made one appearance
as a backup. That new England team finished five and eleven.
How about this, Bill Belichick. For the first time in
his tenure with the Patriots, the Pats have not led
at any point through two games of the season. They're
one of three teams in the NFL to do to
not lead at any point in twenty twenty three. And
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then here's the interesting number, which I mean, I think
all these are interesting, but the Patriots are one and
seventeen when allowing twenty five plus points. Since twenty twenty
the Jets have scored twenty five plus points just four
times with Zach Wilson as their starting signal caller. So
let me ask you this before we hear from coach Sala,
(15:21):
before we get to our mad libs. How did the
Jets get to this magic twenty five number?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Priest Hall, You know, like I think, the reality is
is to be smart about the play calling. We know
Zach Wilson has a great arm, there's no question, and
we know Garrett Wilson is the best catcher in football
like that he already had the season highlight. He already
give the man the SV already like it is there.
But you know, like look like we know that that's
the case. But the reality is is like control the football.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Ball control and not letting.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Mac Jones even have any opportunities or Amandre Stevenson, who
we know, I mean Ramondre Stevenson can use those ten
plus yard carries like very very significant, Like they can
figure it out even against the best defenses.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So the reality is to control the ball possession.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It may not look sexy, it may not be a
seventy yard bomb, you know, or let's hope it's not
a crazy end zone catch that requires Garrett Wilson to
have like like mind control tricks over the ball, like,
let's hope it's not that right like it is. He
was like inceptioning it. He's like, come back to me,
I will like who has better focus? You know, who
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doesn't have eighty Garrett Wilson, That's what I'm saying. So
the truth is is, you know, control the ball possessions
and figuring out a really strong like short pass run
game and letting Brise Hall add some explosive plays before
you need them on early downs.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think is a great point. Breese Hall will be
making his Jets Patriots rivalry debut Sunday, which is it?
Which is big for me? And because I think that
that he could be a game change. I mean, you
saw it Monday night against the Bills in Week one.
He could put potentially be a big reason, just like
Garrett Wilson said on ESPN Radio with Barton Hahn, like,
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there's a reason why the Jets drafted players like Garrett Wilson,
Sauce Gardner, Breeze Hall, et cetera to snap skids like that.
Garrett Wilson was like, I'm owing two against the Patriots.
That's unacceptable. I know that I walked into a situation
where the team was having already in the midst of
a skid. So he's here to snap it?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You said, mind control? And I just want to bring
this up before we hear from coach Sala. Have you
seen the movie Dinner for Schmucks.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
No, I need to see it, though it comes up
on my things every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm like, Oh, I can't need to watch that. It's good.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I thought that it was a direct I thought you
were pulling a line from there because in that movie
they talk about brain control and it's hilarious and I've I.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Have to watch it this week.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Plano, have you seen Dinner for Schmucks?
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I have not. Okay, I have not known all.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Right, Plana, were you born in the year two thousand?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I was.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I'm technically a nineties kid by about three months.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
My nineties kid by three months. So okay, well done that.
Don't ever say that again for this crowd. Okay, well,
you know it's better than two thousand, Cynthia, Right, it's
got to be.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Slightly. It's three months better than two thousand.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yes, it's three months better than two thousand.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Ouch.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, well sit on that. Don't go anywhere, because here's
Eric Allen with coach Sala in an exclusive interview.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Big picture, what do you think about where you're at
after two games one and one? And I'd make the
argument that you just probably played to the better teams
in the National Football League.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Yeah, No, it's we played some good ones. Obviously, We're
coming off of super exciting game Monday night and a
not so exciting game against Dallas. It's part of the
roller coaster of the football season. Part of the audiversity
that we'll have to face weekend and week out, and uh,
you know, the biggest thing is when you get knocked on,
you got to pick yourself up, dust off, and get
ready for the next one. We got a big game
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this week with another division opponent, and that this organization,
we haven't been in a long time, so it's it's
a big one.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
How has your group handled the adversity day you play
that Monday night opener, you lose your starting quarterback after
four snaps, three reps, you spot them a time point lead,
you come back in its emotional victory. Then you go
short week, you play the Cowboys in a home opener,
you don't play up to your standards and they play
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at such a high level.
Speaker 9 (19:23):
Yeah, you know, it's it's there's no excuses for anything. Obviously,
you got to you got to strap up. When you
got to strap up, you gotta strap up, and you
gotta go.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
And you know, we.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Were just to step off. It felt like both sides
of the ball, especially early. You know, in that first quarter,
we had many opportunities to get some third and manageable
situations either off.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
The field or to stay on the field.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
They did a really nice job executing staying on the field,
and we did not do a very good job executing
to stay on the field, and it leads to more
plays on one side of the ball, which leads to
exhaustion and a bunch of things at snowball. But again,
not making excuse is more of just trying to trying
to provide context. But you know, it's unfortunate the way
the game played out. It was a very odd game
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and the way it played out. But you know, at
halftime still had ourselves with the coming out of the
locker room one score game with the ball, you still
feel like all the despite all the things that happened
in the first half, you still have a chance. But
it just, like I said, it was just one of
those unfortunate days and we just got to pick up
and do it again in.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
The plane afterwards, or maybe when you're trying to get
a couple of minutes sleep, do you think about the
Sauce play up the sideline where he steps in front
of CV, or maybe the zach where he's got Garrett
in then zone right before?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Yeah, do you think about those plays quickly?
Speaker 9 (20:43):
I mean, it is what it is, right, feel very
good about the fact. I mean, if yeah, he brings
that down, it's fourteen to ten, we're up, and the
whole game shifts, you know, the play caller calls it differently,
the quarterbacks thinking about it differently. It just everything changes.
But we make the play they did, and that was
kind of really the story of the game in the sunset,
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every opportunity, every turning point that could have been had
during the game, and there's many turning points in a game,
whether noticed by the fans or not, but it just
seemed like every turning point went their way, which again
credit to them, they were on it.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
How important is rhythm and game flow for play callers
and the players.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Themselves, it's everything, you know.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
You look from an offensive perspective, I'd mentioned that at
the two minute warning, they had fifty plays of offense.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
And we had thirteen.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
At the two minute warning when we had that before
that two minute drive that led to a filbal. So
in thirteen plays, you're also talking about a couple of
second and longs, a couple of third downs, and so
you're you got maybe like seven or eight plays where
you're actually in normal football and where you can runner pass,
and it's just you're not going to get a lot
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of opportunity. You're not going to get into a flow.
We hadn't even gotten out of our first fifteen plays yet.
Were in the first fifteen you're trying to learn about
the defense and you're trying to gather information. So there's
just so much information. So you go into the second
half and you still don't know anything because you haven't
had any plays to really identify. You haven't been able
to execute your game plan. So it does it's very
disruptive to the flow, especially when a lead is is
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growing and you're trying to make the changes you need
to make, but you're just you know, the information isn't
all there yet.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
How much do you welcome a traditional week? You open
up Monday night football and then it's a short week
in Dallas. Now it's finally week three and you have
a full week.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
No, it's good to get a routine. I guess you
could say where it's a typical off day and then
you got Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then play game
on Sunday at one o'clock.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
It's typical, but it's.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Also enjoyable to have those night games and those four
o'clock games because it means irrelevant, you're doing something. But
you know, we've got to take care of business and
make sure that we still approach each game like we
always do.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
How tricky is the offense puzzle?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
You got a coordinators implementing his system, you got a
young quarterback who's learning the system, you have an outstanding
running back who's coming back from a knee injury, and
you have an offensive line that is playing just as
third game together.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Yeah, it's no excuses, right, But we knew there was
gonna be some hiccups along the way. But I don't
look at the Dallas game as a hiccup, you know,
just they like I said, it was a series of
unfortunate events that led to a lot of just not
a great game from anybody, but still excited about the
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direction we're going. We had, like I said, a very
good training camp, albeit Aaron was getting the reps.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
But Zach's capable.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
I think he showed that in the first half, you know,
I think he showed that through three quarters.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
And despite the fact that it was.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Under duress pretty much the entire game. And more credit
to those guys than anything else. But you know, so we're,
like I said, you got to get back up on
the horse and get get going again. And you know,
we've got to put that game behind us and look
forward to to what we got next, which is New
England specifically.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Though, what did you like about sex game? I mean
that first past to lazarready put it right there on target.
You talk about Garrett's touchdown before the end of the
first half, is when that pressure was coming towards him.
He was calm there with his feet and he used
his legs and he talked after the game about seeing
it real.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
Well, yeah, I thought he did a really nice job.
The things to be excited about. His pocket presence was
much better, He stood in there and delivered strikes.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
His accuracy was.
Speaker 9 (24:37):
Much better, his timing, his footwork and rhythm was much better.
Even in the third quarter, again, we just didn't get
a lot of opportunities, had to fumble, had a three
and out. But it wasn't until the fourth quarter when
he was trying to force things to make things happen,
that things kind of got out of whack. But I
just thought for the most part, it was even though
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you can't really see it at goes very promising.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Speaking of promising, I want to go back to your
defense just for a second. You open up against Baltimore
last year and then Cleveland, I believe was Week two,
and they had their moments, but they started hitting their
stride later when you look at like the first two games.
Outstanding Week one and then obviously Dallas played very well offensively.
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But is there reason to think that this defense is
just getting started.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
Yeah, Dallas was outstanding, you know, and like I said,
we're maybe a step off if you want to give it,
but you know, credit to Dallas, to McCarthy, took over
a lot of unscouted looks in terms of just them
implementing in their scheme with the guys that they've had
there for a while. And but at the same time,
there's we had many opportunities to take advantage of.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
That football game.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
We had saw force the fumble that you know, again
credit to them, O Lineman running thirty yards downfield, hustling.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Interception for a touchdown was right there. We had an unfortunate.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Rough in the passer penalty on JFM that is questionable
that that's a five point difference. So there's just a
lot of little things in that first half that kind of.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Took a toll.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
But at the same time, like we got a good defense,
and and if a team has to play like that
to put up thirty, well good for you, you know,
And it's uh and they are gaining credit to them.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
They played outstanding. But I'll still put our money in
on us more often than not.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
How about the red zone defense, they won't go two
to six. There was one point they had first in
goal from the one and they didn't get it.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Yeah, we always we always say give us a blade
of grass and we'll protect it.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
Right, that's kind of the mindset.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
And you know, especially in the second half, there are
some short fields obviously with the takeaways and all that stuff.
But I thought I thought defense played its tail off
all the way to the end. Obviously we gave up
the two touchdowns, one of them I think was undeserving,
but it is what it is, and you know, so
it was we fought, the players fought, and at testament
(27:13):
to the red zone defense and be able to stand
up to keep them out of the end zone and
to hold them the field goals.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
And you know, so it's.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
If there's one thing I know about that we know
about our guys on defense and often end this locker room.
It's just a resilient bunch and they'll continue to fight
until the end.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
So the Patriots are coming to town. You got a
chance to go to you know, inside a division. You
said Monday that this team is underrated when you're talking
about the Patriots, can you speak to that?
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
First, first of all, they've got tremendous continuity from a
coaching staff standpoint. You know, they've all been there for
a while, so they know what they're coaching and every
snake in the grass because they've been together so long
and they've been they've implemented their schemes, they've seen everything,
and they know how to They know how to game
plan in a way that fits their style of play.
And they have players who have been there long enough
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to know it too. So they're very sound. They're very disciplined.
They play a very patient style of football. You know,
you look from an offensive standpoint, everyone's trying to talk
about their demise, but they've played two of the better
defenses in football, and they put they had eighty two
plays against Philadelphia, they had seventy five against.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Miami.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
So they're hold they're possessing the ball, they're moving the ball,
albeit it may not look explosive, but they're moving the football.
They play clean and then defensively they have one of
the one of the top units in football, very underrated unit. Again,
Philadelphia is an explosive offense that they kind of held
that they held down, and same thing with Miami. And
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so it's a much better football team than people probably
give it credit for. And it's going to definitely be
a tremendous challenge on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
I'm not going to talk schematically about your plan, but
you talked after the game immediately in Dallas about, Hey,
they played a lot of single high, they loaded the box.
Do you anticipate New England doing that or they're such
a chameleon themselves as you never know what they cox.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Yeah, well we'll we'll see.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
And and the reality is, it doesn't matter whether they're
too high, one high, five down linemen, four down linemen.
You got to be able to execute your plan, whether
it's running the ball, passing the ball, whatever you might
whatever you might try to do it, you still got
to go down to execu You still got to block
the manifrontia. You still got to get the ball to
where it needs to get to and you still got
to be able to find the holes when you if
you're running it. So you know they've they've got their
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style of play. They are multiple, but at the same time,
it still comes back to us and our ability to
execute at a high level. And uh and when we
do that, we're pretty damn good too. And uh and
that's gonna that's really the key.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
What did you think about the atmosphere at your place
in week one? What do you anticipate the environment is
going to be here at MetLife on Sunday? And also
how much of a factor can the crowd bit?
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Uh, crowd is a big is a big factor.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
I'm telling you that that stadium, Uh, knock on wood.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I have.
Speaker 9 (30:08):
I've been in every single stadium and every environment that
you can imagine, and that was as good and good
of environment as I've ever been in. I mean, it
was unbelievable. And I've been in some really cool stadiums,
and but you know, the fans, fans, you know, when
I was in Seattle, like that twelfth Man was real
crowd noise affecting the game, being affecting the game in
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a positive way, and and I felt like in Week
one our fans definitely affected the game in a positive way,
and I'm excited for them to do it again this week.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Welcome back to the Gay Preview Podcast presented by LifeLock.
That was EA coach, solid, great stuff from both of
those guys. John Plano in the house. It's time for
mad lips, Cynthia. This is a new segment, so we're
gonna give it a test drive. You ready to roll?
Love it all right? Plano fired up.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
So one of my favorite parts of sports journalism is
that we listened to all these guys talk all week,
Robert Salah, oh S, Nathaniel Hackett, d C, Jeff Albrick.
But we can only get so much game plan from them,
So why not just like design our own using mad links.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Does that not sound like a good idea?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
It's like a great idea.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Yeah. So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I'm going to ask We're gonna go back and forth
between both of you, So Cynthia and then Ethan, I'm
just gonna ask you for a player or a unit
or so this first one Cynthia, I'm gonna ask you
for a Jets offensive player, and you're gonna give me
the player with no context whatsoever, and we're going to
stick them into a sentence and you I'm gonna read
the sentence out loud and it's gonna give some information
(31:37):
and you can decide, Wow, that's maybe not the best
person for a situation, or maybe somebody you want to
put in that spot a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
But you can make arguments for both. That makes sense.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yeah, okay, all right, awesome, So Cynthia, can you give
me a Jets offensive player?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Alan Wizard?
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I love it, Allen Wizard.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
So the Patriots hell the Eagles to ninety seven yards
rushing in Week one, but surrendered one hundred and forty
five yards Dolphins in Week two. Allan Lazard needs to
have a big day on offense for the Jets to
have some similar success on the ground.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
How does that sound, Cynthia.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You know I could make the argument that blocking matters,
and also Alan Lazard like creating like like taking defenders
away creates more space to work with. So like I
give it like a C it's an average pull, but
like we could probably.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Do better and and wait, I'm gonna I'm gonna pick
you up here. If Alan Lazard is having a big
day through the air, that'll open up rushing lanes for
Breese Hall, Dalvin Cook and Michael Carter.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know, this is what we're doing here, We're picking
each other up.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But what did you just ask?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Who would you have.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Preferred to be in that spot? Who's really going to
help them run the ball?
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
If we like, I really feel like, I mean, I
would have gone inn O Ligneman just because then it's like, oh, yeah,
he's having a huge day, ah bah blah, because no
one likes to talk about aline.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I should have gone I should have done that.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well, you can do it right now. You can amend
the sentence. I think that Polano is giving you a
layup and you decided to like, you know what, I'll
just like not take the alive.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
We're good, We're good. I'll do the entire o line
having a day and then the run game will be great.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Let's do that, all right, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Can we just get a I'm gonna shout out Makai
Beck then, like, I'd love to see a McKay Beckton
pancake on Sunday one pm. It could be three pm,
as long as it's during the game. I need a
mackay Beckton pancake like I need pancakes on Sunday morning.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Absolutely catch Matthew Ethan. Can you give me a Patriots defender, please.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
A Patriots give me Matt Judon because we haven't spoken
about him with.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
It so last season, the Patriots defense was second in
turnovers forced with thirty. This year they have two takeaways
and two games. They just need to be aware of
Matthew Judon on the Patriots defense in order to avoid
turning the ball over.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I stand by that, because Matt Judon is a freakazoid. Yeah,
Cynthia as someone who covers the entire league a little
more closely than John Polano and myself, Matt Judon, he
I'm pretty sure I was reading somewhere if I can
find it, that he's like fourth in the NFL in
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terms of sacks since two thousand oh.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Hold On, he leads the Patriots with two sacks.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He has thirty sacks since twenty twenty one, which is
fourth in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Are the Jets more yep? And are they?
Speaker 8 (34:26):
Are?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
They Jets better suited to handle Matt Judon than maybe
last season.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Part of the reason why the Jets are better suited
to handle Matt Judon this year than last is, I mean,
every year that this offense is able again with your
guy mcai beeckt in there, that's helpful too, But every
year that this offense works in the same the more
the more you know re returning players and the more
they work together, the better off that they are and
the more that they see them. Remember, Matt Judon had
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come over from the Baltimore Ravens and was kind of
newer to the AFC East. He didn't grow up in
this in this division. So now he's able to they're
able to like they know what they're looking at right
like this this isn't a new entity for them, And
the more experience they have with him, the better off
they are, being like, oh, you know he does this
spin move or you know he's swe this swim move here,
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So that I think every year they'll just get better
and better at handling.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Him and Matt Judon one and a half sacks against
the Jets last season in two games, one of the
NFL's best pass rushers. I also saw a nice clip
of Joshua and I love saying whenever I get the
chance to say that, j It's a great name, Francisco.
Name that movie, John Pilano, I got nothing for you, Cynthia,
you know that movie? Right?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
No, we do not have movie buffs on this really
apparently not Elf. Oh my bad cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Wait, you've never seen ELF.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I love alf Oh yeah, that's from Alfas Francisco.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That's fun to say.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Oh my god, this is embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
All right, Well, just save Cynthy and I have the embarrassment.
We're gonna continue this one.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
I'm in a glass case full of emotion.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
You know that one? Oh, Cynthia, you know that right?
What what?
Speaker 6 (36:11):
This podcast is going off the rail. I've never seen anger.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Mantman to Last Weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, time out, time out.
I'm running down the sideline. John Plano has never seen Anchorman?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
What John?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
You have homework? My friend, You're out of school, but
you have homework.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I'm sorry. Maybe I'm a little too young. Maybe I
should be a two thousands kid.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Anyway, asked Cynthia the next Mad Live. Please, I need
a moment.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Cynthia, Are you ready? All right? Can you give us
a Jets defender? Please?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Can I give you a Jets Let's pick. I'm trying
to go, well, I'm gonna go Sauce.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Why not? I love Sauce. He's my favorite.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
Yikes, Okay, he said, yikes.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
So the Jets have six sacks in two games, while
the Dolphins drop Mac Jones four times. In Week two,
the Dolphins came in with four sacks. Sauce Gardener will
need to play well in order for the Jets to
create pressure.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
In fairness, defensive fronts and backs work together. So when
you're blanketing a receiver or any sort of pass catcher
hunter Henry, you're gonna need to take a few extra seconds.
And you know what happens in a few extra seconds.
If Sauce Gardener's all over someone a sack by someone else.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Like it, I'm gonna go B.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Okay, you're giving yourself a B. My letter grade was
probably like an eight plus. I have to give that
to you, But but what was it?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
How did you end that sentence? Sauce Gardener will.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Be crucial for the Jets to create pressure.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Okay, it could be be crucial for the Jets to
create turnovers because last week we almost or we did
see Sauce Gardner nearly have a pick six, which I
know we talked about it. You don't quite but you
think he might be going out of bounds plant.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Well, he said postgame that the reason he wasn't focused
on catching it was he was a little too focused
on trying to take it back to the house and
not go out of bounds on his way out.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
But sala Is like he's convinced it would have been
a pick six. Granted, in my mind it's a hypothetical.
So hypothetically he scored. He scored with the rock. He
scored with the rock. You know, make the narrative fit
for you.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
That's alright, I like it.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Hit me with the next one.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
All right, we're going back to the Pats. Okay, Pats
offensive player. We're in the defensive game plan.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Now an offensive player. Give me Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Ezekiel Elliott the newest Patriots so this year in New
England's seventy one percent touchdown success rate in the red
zone is tied for the fourth highest mark in the league.
While the Jets can counteract that with the number seven
best red zone defense at thirty seven point five percent conversion,
Ezekiel Elliott will give the Jets trouble on defense if
they do not game plan for him.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh well, I think the better answer would have been
Ramandre Stevenson just because he gets more of the workload.
But I'll give my I'll give it like a B
B minus.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
You know when he was in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I think you're going way too low because really the
only area Ezekiel Elliott has been actually effective in the
past few seasons has been the red area. So I think,
like what they've been doing is you know, we saw
Tony Pollard kind of was the guy get that got
you into the red area, and then Zeke was like
the finisher because they could push him easier.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
See this is why Cynthia and I are a great team.
She helps me out, I help her out. I actually
think it's interesting Tony Pollard last week. The Jets have
not allowed a rushing touchdown in twenty twenty three. That
number will obviously change over the course of eighteen games
or eighteen week seventeen games, but Tony Pollard, the Dallas
offense had forty plus attempts okay, rushing the football Tony
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Pollard average two point nine. The Cowboys average three point zero.
The Jets rushing defense has only been nine games since.
I don't remember what the year was, but in recent
memory where teams in the NFL have held opponents to
three to zero average or less and with forty plus attempts,
the Jets are one of those. The Jets are the
only team and last week Jets Cowboys was the only
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game forty plus attempts, three to zero or less average
and zero rushing touchdowns. Not to mention Cynthia, the Pats
rushing numbers not great. So this again seems like the
Jets will be able to play their brand of football.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, I mean like I said, and that also leads
to Mac Jones right, like, if they can't rush, play
actions work as well.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I think this is a good opportunity for the Jets defense.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Like I said it on Fantasy Live even I was like,
do not sleep on this Jets defense. I understand things
were looked wonky against the Cowboys last week, but that's
a really hard week just in general, short week lots
of changes.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
No, now we're going back to the Jets. You are
playing them in fantasy.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
How about this stat before we can see how many
more mad lops do we have?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
We have one bonus one and one one more game plan?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Okay, so how about this stat? Jets defense last year, Cynthia,
weeks one and two ranked twenty fifth in the NFL
points per game allowed, with twenty seven weeks three through eighteen,
which is where we are currently in the NFL season,
seventeen and a half points per game allowed. That ranked
second in the NFL. It takes time, that's all I'm saying.
It takes too.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
You don't mess with the Jets defense. No, no, no,
that's kind.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Of a rhyme. I like that.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
You don't mess with the Jets defense.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I like it all right, fired up.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Might have to put that on a shirt. So, Cynthia,
any player on the Jets roster.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
A player, that's all.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Anybody?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Okay, So we haven't taught, like what do we trying
to think?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Like I thought you would, you were going to want
to go with one of your faves, like Elijah Arra
Tucker or John Franklin.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Say, Elijah Ara Tucker that was actually the one I
was thinking.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I think it's a sign. Are you going with Avt?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Then I'm doing it. We both thought it so absolutely.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
So this is just kind of a final point.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
The Patriot's off to anh and two star for the
first time since two thousand and one. As Ethan said,
Elijah Vera Tucker will come up with the biggest play
of the game to send the Patriots to an oh
and three start for the first time since two thousand
and when it was Bill Belichick's first season as coach
of the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Nobody loves the big man touchdown more than me.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I implore you to find a big man touchdown that's
loved by anyone more than me.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
So hey, but what did av T need to dress
as like an extra offensive lineman out wide? Like as a.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Word, these details if you come like something weird.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Could happen, and then he catches it, and then I
touch it.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I got I got it. Cynthia, you ready for this?
Just like Jet's con Okay, this is this is what
I imagine in the meeting room downstairs, Jets cowboys, they're
watching the film. They're like, look at Tyler Beattish rolling down,
running behind.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Whoever the ball got stripped from. I don't remember who.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
He falls on the ball, the Jets don't recover, Sauce
rips it out. Av T has that burn in his mind.
Breese Hall or Dalvin Cook or whoever is running down
the sideline and who's hustling out in front, just like
Denver in week seven when unfortunately he tore his tri
steps Elijah Vera Tucker, as John Polano noted last week,
Solomon Elijah Vera Tucker is rolling down the sidelines, the
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ball comes out, Avt scoops that thing up, He scores,
Jets win. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
That was poetry. Love that poetry.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
And yeah, just was actually when I was thinking about too,
just so you know.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah we figured that.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
But just like the pass last week, col Strange almost
picked up a massive first down for them, ok against
the Miami Dolphin, So definitely possible. I have one more
for you guys. It is just kind of a bonus
one less football related.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
But do we both answer?
Speaker 6 (43:37):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
I'm gonna give you guys the sentence first, and you're
both gonna you're both gonna give either combined answer your
separate answers. So the new one Patriots maybe the Jets
biggest rival in the NFL. But John Polano loves Akenoli
from the North End. Shout out Cafe Dallas Sport, absolutely fantastic. Well,
you guys are going out to eat in Boston, Cynthia
Freelan and Ethan Greenberg are picking.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Up a oh, this is just like a fun there's
some yeah, some Boston food, some Boston food. I'm not
all too.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Familiar, euzy, so this one's a little easier for.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Me than for most.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know my answer.
Is it a type of cuisine or like a specific dish.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
Anything, clam chowder, canole is anything.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It's like, what are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Okay, there's two places.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
My mind goes Fanuel Hall to get doing cam chowder
out for bread ball, mostly just like the bread ball
in that situation, because I mean it's fun and who's.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Like fel in the North End?
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Okay, yeah, okay, yep.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
And then you could also go to Mike's Pastry and
get literally anything.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
There so good.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Okay, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Nor like the seafood Italian seafood there is really good.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Okay, well one, I just really want to say chicken
Pam because I love chicken palm and I needed to
throw in a chicken pam if I could too. Is
if I'm actually answering your question, I know nothing about
Boston cuisine in terms of but but I will go
to Fanuel Hall and I will get what is it
the Boston Chipyard?
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Is that the cookie spot?
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Because my dad is obsessed with those and he used
to bring home like tins of them. I'm gonna google
this Boston Chipyard. Yeah, the Boston Chipyard, I think, oh, yeah,
there it is. So I'm gonna go to the Boston Hipyard.
I'm gonna get some cookies for the family. I'm gonna
eat a couple on the way back home. And also
fun fact, I have a bottle of Coca Cola in
(45:29):
my room from Fanuel Hall two thousand and six. I
purchased it with the starting six Red Sox lineup on
it and batting lead off. It's Coco crisp. I love it,
and uh yeah, it became a joke like among my friends,
like why haven't you consumed this bottle? And it's definitely flat,
but we're gonna drink it soon. Next time we golf,
(45:50):
my friend Brian and I so shout out to coffee.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Maybe just a sip, how about that, we'll make.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
May I appreciate you guys indulging.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
In John Polano drinking an honor of his birthday because
that was like the same year he was born.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
You know, yeah, Cynthia Digham Digham, all.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Right, you know I love you John Polano. If I
didn't love you, it wouldn't make fun of you.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
That's a good sign. Polano. You're staying on for our
final segment, Cynthia, we got one more. Because this is
the Game Preview podcast presented by LifeLock. Give me a
lock of the week. Doesn't have to be Jets, doesn't
have to be Jets Patriots. It could be maybe a
team that you like to upset. Maybe it could be
a fantasy lock that you think is a great matchup.
(46:34):
I want your lock of the week, and again, it
could be Jets Patriots related, it could be something totally different.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna stay away from
this Jets Patriots tilt for things that I feel are locked,
because truly, this one feels like it's six of one,
half a dozen of another right. It could easily like
the defenses will dictate this and the defense of the
strength of both teams. So I'm gonna stay away from
this one, although I do think that the Jets do
end up winning it, but that's like gut and the
math is all over the lights.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
There's a lot of volatility there.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
But one that I think people are sleeping on or
maybe giving a little bit too much credit to for
the Lions being a preseason favorite. I think the Lions
are way too favored against the Falcons, and I'm looking
at the Falcons coming to town and Bijon Robinson running
all over your life. And by the way, I just
checked the injury report Corderio Patterson. You know, he's always
(47:24):
like a thing. In the beginning of the season. He
hasn't been playing, but he's somehow on like track to
potentially be active, which just means that it's gonna mess
up your fantasy life if you have Vjon but Tyler
Algier still there. You know Arthur Smith, he runs the
ball fifty five percent of the time, that's the most
in the NFL. The Lions are now missing James Houston,
so the pass rush is gonna look different situationally, and
(47:46):
also their O line for the Falcons is great. The
Lions oh line, they were missing their left tackle Taylor
Decker last week, so that's part of what happened with Seattle.
I don't think that, you know, the if it we're
likning it to the stock market.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I don't think that.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
We've we've reached the right like it hasn't settled yet,
right like the Adam Smith invisible hand hasn't settled it yet.
And I think that the Falcons go in to ford
Field and for the second week in a row, all
of those people from Michigan, my home state, are like,
come the frick on this again, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
And I just noticed that Almen Ross Saint Brown also
on the injury report day to day with a toe issue,
So that's feeding fuel.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
You have to if you're gonna lock that in, lock
it in now before anything adjust. Not that I know
what any of that I just said means, but I
would lock this in.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
You know, this is why you listen to the preview podcast.
Do you get the good stuff early?
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Don't wait till Sunday. You won't You won't be able.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
To get that, and just to help you out here,
Cynthia doesn't know like she knows those are betting terms
that she's heard other intelligent people say. That's why she's saying.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
She's not saying she does that because she she does
not do that.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I am very I am one hundred percent in compliance
with art. We do all those trainings. I am like
number one listening. I like listen and participate and click
all the things.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
All right, that's how we end the game preview podcast.
Any closing words for you?
Speaker 5 (49:01):
Plano just shout out to my mom from Northeastern. I
of course I worked for New York Jets, but I
love Boston and my parents grew up there, and so
go Celtics, but no Patriots.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
That might be the last time I give you a
shout out.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
At the end, Johns mom, I'm dead. I feel bad.
I just made fun of him. I don't mean to
John Plano's mom. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I love John Pilano's mom, I love John Plano's dad.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
You know the parents are in it. I don't think
it was a bad make fun of it.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
I just feel bad now because that was the sweetest
thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
You should not feel bad for that because Pilano on
New York platforms just shouted out Boston.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Let alone Jet's Patriots. He shouted out Boston.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
No, he shout out his mom and his mom's job.
Speaker 6 (49:46):
Like, it's different.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
It's different.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
To Marianne Freeland, you know Marianna's art. Freeland is from Yonker.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
So my dad is a New Yorker, you know, like
mom is from me. Dad's from New York.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
We clearly one side of my family got it right.
The other side of little little Hillbilly, but we're getting Do.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
You want to shout any family?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Well, I want to shout out somebody in honor of
our producer Matt Sickoff, who had his birthday yesterday. Round
of flaws for Matt Sitcoff and Bunny Sitcoff shout out
to the Yeah, of course. So no, I have no
shout outs. Oh well, my dad, Hal Greenberg loves cookies. No, no, no,
(50:28):
no shout out to my dad.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
He loves cookies. It's where I get it from.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Thank you. My mom can have a shout out when
the time is appropriate, because there will be game preview
podcasts around her birthday.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
This.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, you know, I can't I get me just blowing
shout out? You know what I mean. You got to
save something for the holster. Here, I'm saving the mom
shout out. That's the perfect way to end Week three
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