April 23, 2024 • 45 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined in the Audi Performance Studio by CBS Analyst/former Jets DL Leger Douzable. In the final installment of the NFL Draft Preview series, Douz delivers his New York Jets 7-Round Mock Draft.
1:30 - Assessing value and team needs entering the selection process
3:38 - An OL goes No. 10 overall
10:01 - 'Slick Rick' brings a Gator to New York
14:02 - Developmental QB prospect in Round 4
17:30 - Young DT Added in the 4th
21:25 - Hard-hitting Duck joins the safety group
24:04 - Breaking News: reports indicate Zach Wilson is Denver bound
28:17 - Athletic Tackle in Round 6
30:15 - Mr. Irrelevant
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome into the Official Jets podcast, Eric Allen joined by
Leja Duza Bawl.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Draft Week is here. Dudes, it's upon us.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Can you believe it? Ea? I mean I feel like
the season ended maybe a month ago, right, I feel like,
you know, the Super Bowl in Vegas was right like
literally yesterday, and now here we are, look at us
already ready for the new era of players to come
into the brotherhood of the NFL. Man Tom Flies, Tom Flies.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hea, time certainly does fly.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And this is our last pre draft podcast with dues,
and we're putting you on the clock for the New
York Jets. The Jets have seven overall selections dues, starting.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
With number ten overall.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Before we get to those picks, how did you go
about targeting players for the Jets needs this spring?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, so I went back and forth, and I actually
do this exercise where I think and I run down
like what teams or who they could potentially pick before
the Jets actually picked. So it was like a real exercise.
So when you look at this draft, it's based on
you know, going through each round seeing what player may
or may not be there most more specimply, in first round, right,
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I looked at the first nine picks, and did you
know some evaluation of what teams could potentially trade up
for the quarterbacks at the top of the draft, what
teams need, have certain needs at certain positions. And that's
how I was able to make my pick at number
ten and then even going down to the third round, right,
just going through the draft seeing what player could possibly
be there. So that's that's how, like I said, it's
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I was. I would want to say it was tedious
because I love going through this exercise because this is probably,
ea what my tenth mock draft, right, so it gets
fun every time when you just, you know, decipher who
could potentially be there, what team has a need, and
how they tried to fill it as to posed as
opposed to what the Jets are going to need at
that certain pick.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
All right, we control the cards, so we could do
this different than what's going to happen on draft weekend. Correct, Hey,
goal in order do you want to lead up to
number ten? Should we start backwards, should we start all
the way from mister irrelevant? Or you want to do
this traditional style?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Let's do a traditional style.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, fine, here we go number ten overall? Who did
he consider here before you put in the card.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, eh, I don't believe it's a secret anymore. Uh
my affinity from Roma Dune day. Yeah, but in this
mock he was already gone. So unfortunately he was not
there at the number ten pick for the Jets. So
I went back and back and forth to see best
player available, best fit, right, and that's how I came
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up with who I picked at the number ten spot.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
All right, So who was on the board. Who were
some names that Jets fans like? Who was on the board? Yep,
before you picked this a certain peck twelve alone.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, brock Bauers was still on the board. JC Latham
was still on the board, and Talie Uagga was still
on the board.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, Lege Dousable, you are now on the number ten
overall selection.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
We're out in the war room. We're all discussing what
we should do. Who's you know on our board at
this number ten spot. And when it came down to it,
I went with Troy Fataneu, the offensive tackle from Washington.
When you look at how he would fit in the
Jets plan, right, this is a guy that has positioned
flexibility and versatility. He could start at guard or at tackle,
but I think he's athletic enough he could really started tackling. Yes,
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I know the Jets brought in Tyrone Smith, they traded
for Morgan Moses, but both of those guys are in
their mid thirty and we've seen the issues that Jesse
had at the tackle position staying healthy. So why not
have a guy with the versatility to essentially almost start
every spot on the offensive line if somebody were to
go down, Because you got to think in this day
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and age, in the NFL seventeen games, ya, somebody most
likely is gonna get inged up, right, somebody's gonna have
to come in and spot start. And what better player
than Troy Fontanau, A guy like I said, the athletic
ability to stay at tackle, but I believe can play
guard at a high level as well. Kind of reminds
me of AVT when he came out right and he's
a guy that's been able to, you know, go from
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tackle to guard back to tackle. Hopefully this year he
can solidify himself at guard and just stay at guard.
I think Troy fontanu to beef up that offensive line
makes the most sense at pick number ten.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Interesting, dude, he played defensive line in high school. Number
two overall recruit out of the state of Nevada, played
in Nevada high school ball, so he knows Roman Dunda
from way back when got his degree in real estate.
Started every game each of the past two seasons. Okay,
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I like this kid as a prospect. You've been saying
for weeks, you've been standing on the table, well probably months, Yet,
gotta go receiver here because there's more of a need.
Why ultimately you said the top three receivers were off.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Okay, why no Bowers?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, when you look at positional value, We've had this discussion, Ea,
brock Bowers, I think is a hell of a player.
I don't want people coming after me and my DMS
and everything thinking I have something against brock Bowers. That's
simply not true. I think it's a hell of a player.
But for people that are saying, you can't just treat
him like a tight end, they said the same thing
about Kyle Pitts in Atlanta, and that still hasn't worked
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out to this day. They were literally comparing pitch to
a unicorn, Ea, because that's essentially what he was. He
was a freak athlete, just like Brock Bowers explosive in
the open field, just like Brock. But if you don't
have a set plan for a guy with that type
of skill set, it isn't worthy of a top ten pick,
and it usually doesn't work out. I know, I was
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on Twitter the other day or exit whatever you want
to call it, EA, and I was saying Dalton Kinka, like,
you know, he's kind of comparable to Brock Powers, and
people kind of got after me and I would say,
I said, I think Bowers is a better athlete, right,
and he probably blocks a little bit better. But I
will say it this year, Dalton Kinkad in Buffalo, I
saw some dog in him blocking I didn't see at Utah.
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So a lot of it has to come with coaching or
what they ask him to do at Utah. So if
Brock Bowers has a season like Dalton Kinkaid had, it's
a good season. But it's not a good season if
you're a top ten pick, right, because you got to
think about it. Garry Wilson was a top ten pick
and went over a thousand yards his rookie year. Dalton
k Kin I believe, had seventy three catches for right
under seven hundred yards, which is a quality year for
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a tight end. But if you're going in the top ten,
people are gonna say that's a bad year for him.
So like, why would you put that kid in that predicament?
To me, yes, I know Rock Bowers is a weapon
x if you would like to say that, but he's
still a traditional tight end. He can line up at
the traditional tight end spot, you can line him up
in the backfield, you can split him out, but most
tight ends in the NFL are doing that today anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Ea, So why Big Troy over Fuaga and also overlay them?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I just think the position flexibility. Now, Fuaga can play
guard as well, but I think he's more pencil than
as a right tackle in a guard where try Fontonu
could play right tackle, left tackle, left guard, right guard,
and I dare say he may be even able to
play center as well. So I just thought, with the
position flexibility, and even though the Jets have a starting
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five offensive line, why not get a guy that you
know is versatile enough to play every spot on the
offensive line if somebody were to get dinged up and
not just play play at a high level as well
at those positions. So it was tough hea. I went
back and forth between him and Wagga because Olu Fashnu
and Joe Walt were already off the board, right, So
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like I went back and forth between those two. I
just thought, as far as position flexibility, Troy fonton new
made a lot more sense.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I don't want to put the cart before the horse,
but you play your best five. You talked about the
Jets editions in the offseason. If you take font number
ten overall, will he ultimately be a day one starter
for you when you're opening the season up in twenty
twenty four?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And that's the question mark EA, And I think Joe
Douglas did a masterful job and the contracts that he
did with trading for Morgan Moses who doesn't have a
hot cat number. Same thing with Tyron Smith. So if
Troy Fontonu comes in and he's ready, he's the starter,
and Morgan Moses or dare I say, even Tyron Smith
would be your swing guy. And the crazy thing is
they're technically getting swing tackle type money anyway, right EA,
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when you look at and break down their contracts for
this last year. So to me, if Troy fontan neuw
comes in and proves that he's one of the best
starting fives. You start him like that's what it is.
And now let's not forget Morgan Moses in twenty one
when he came to the Jets, he was essentially supposed
to be the swing guy. Hea people forget that mkyy
Begthon got hurt in the first half Onirst Carolina and
that's why Morgan Moses went on to start for the
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rest of the season, right because George Fent was dealing
with some injuries as well, but mky Becthon going down
solidified Morgan Moses in the starting lineup and he just
never looked back. So Morgan Moses is used to being
in this predicament, so I think this would be something that,
of course, as a player, you want to be out
there and start. But if they asked him, you know, Morgan,
we need you to be the swing guy. And there's
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probably a high percentage chance you're gonna play this year
because we just know how the NFL works and guys
get dinged up. I think Morgan Moses would would be
up for that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Troy front Knew goes number ten overall to the Jets. Okay, dudes,
you are on the board. You had to wait out
round two. But it is Friday night, it is round three,
it is selection time. Picked number seventy two for the
New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Drum roll silky smooth Ricky Piersow, wide receiver from Florida.
I love this kid's game. A smooth route runner, does
a good job temple in his routes. And when I
say tempo, he gives you different cadences. That way, you
essentially don't know what route he's going to run. People
talked about his speed and worried about his speed he run.
He ran a sub four to five. I think I
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low four four one if I'm not mistaken. And you
see it on film, right, he took an end a
round versus Miszoo thirty plus yards and ea, if you
look at that Missouri defense, it's gonna be like five
or six gut selected in this draft. So that's a
top notch defense, and he outran all of them to
the end zone. So, Ricky Piersaw, we know that there
needs to be a receiver taking in this draft to
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pair with Garrett Wilson. Yes, we know. Mike Williams was
a big sign against free agency. But he's coming off
a major knee injury, right, so it'll give you the flexibility.
Even though Piersoll is a slot receiver, it'll give you
the flexibility to move Garrett Wilson from the outside to
the inside. Piersaw can play on the outside, but he
does a lot of his damage in the slot. So
in the third round, I think it makes a lot
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of sense, especially if you go O Line in the
first to rectify you know, the receiver room by getting
a guy who a lot of people see could be
a second round pick. But if he slides to the third,
I think you run that card in, especially if you
go O Line in the first round.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Okay, why is he there in round three? You mentioned
it before? Is it because the size and speed concerns?
And with that being said, I really like this kid's
production last year at Florida. You're talking about sixty five catches,
nine hundred and sixty five yards. He had the four
touchdowns last season, one hundred and fifty career receptions. A
transfer from Arizona.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
State, Arizona some players, you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
He was part of the recruiting class that included jayde
Day to go number two overall in this draft, do
you think to talk about some of the concerns maybe
and why are you sitting there in round three?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
But I just think, yeah, slaughtered him as a slot guy,
So slot guys usually go down lower in the draft.
And then we talked about this being one of the
deepest receiving classes, which means other positions will get pushed
up in the draft, and you could see some receivers
that are second round receivers drop into the third and
third round receivers drop into the fourth because teams feel
like I can still get a quality receiver later on
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in the draft, let me go attack a need that
I have and another position group that isn't as strong.
So that's a lot of times what you see in
these drafts, with you know, the offensive line being so
deep and the receivers being so deep. A lot of
those guys, like even a guy like Jordan Mrgan, who
I have slated to go at the end of the
first round, he may slide into the second just because
this is a deep offensive line class and teams that
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have needs in other positions. If there's a premium player there,
you're gonna make an emphasis on trying to go get
that player because that position group is not as strong
and it may be harder for you to answer that
void later on in the draft. So I think this
is just, you know, a component of Ricky Pierso being
in a really deep receiver class. Again, he could go
at the end of the second round, but I got
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him here at the top of the third.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Hey, dudes, what do you think about him being on
the all nickname team slick Rick?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
You like that? I like slick Fricky Fears probably have
the best catching college football all last year for Charlotte,
going up against his body, one hand snacking the ball
out of the year. So he has really good hands. Again,
a really good route runner, temples his routes really well
to be able to shake free thee. There is one
concern and press man. Sometimes he struggles to get off press,
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so that could be another reason why he may slip
a little bit lower.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Okay. I like that selection myself.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I am a former Gator, so bringing in bringing in
here Florida alump.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So the Jets have a pair of seasoned veteran quarterbacks
at the top of their depth chart in Aaron Rodgers
Tyrod Taller. But hey, did you like what you heard
up from Joe Douglas the other day. He said he
wants to build a quarterback factory here. I started thinking
to myself, Hey, Jets, they're gonna be adding a quarterback
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here on day three and for you, no surprise, you
go signal caller here round four.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, without a doubt, I think every team every year
should take a look at a quarterback right just because,
for one, if you're able to develop that guy, he's
a trade chip later on until you just never know
what's gonna happen with your starting quarterback. So I took
a flyer here in the fourth round and one of
my favorite prospects in the draft, Michael Pratt, the quarterback
from Tulane. I mean to me, throws with the most
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touched in this draft class. Now, he doesn't have the
biggest arm ea right, and sometimes struggles with them, throws
deep down the field outside the numbers. But you talk
about a leader, three time captain right knows how to win.
People tend to forget. Last year against USC and the
Cotton Bowl, he put on a display verse them and
put up over fifty points against USC. Now, again, that's
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not a really good defense. So I'm a purposely by
saying that, but nobody gave Tulane a chance in that game.
He's an ultimate leader, a heck of a competitor. EA.
They put this guy in the run game, right, so
don't talk about his athletic ability. He used him in
the run game, and you see the toughness and grittiness
when he runs with the football. He's a guy that
people just rally around. I think he's a perfect fit
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to come in sit behind Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers
for two years with the opportunity maybe in two years
to take over as a starting quarterback for the New
York Jets.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So let's stay right there, dudes.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Takes Michael Pratt out of Tulane with the first of
two fourth round selections for the Jets. That's number one
eleven overall. You actually do see starting potential in this guy.
Even though Pratt he sees the field really well. People
say it's calming in the pocket, very poised. He and also,
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like you mentioned, the toughness factor, not afraid to run it,
very smart, cerebral. With his athletic maybe limitations, you still
see a potential NFL starter here.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I do, and I've always been higher on micropracting people.
I mean, starting this process, I had him as a
late second round pick, and then I moved him into
the third, so I would not be surprised if a
team even tried to get him in the third round.
You know, a lot of people will say on Day
two it's probably going to be maybe Bo Nicks, Spencer Ratler,
and I think Pratt was that third guy that could
potentially slide into the third and if not, he's most
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likely going to be the first quarterback taken in the
fourth round. And good for to just to have a
pretty high fourth round pick if he's able to be there,
I think it just makes sense as a developmental guy
for a year or two, most likely two years, sit
behind Rogers, sit behind Tyrod Taylor, and I think he
has starting potential. I talked about it again, the way
he's able to elevate his team at Tulane back to
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back years going to the American Conference Championship Game, and
if you look at what he did this year without
having his number one receiver, Jawan Jackson's probably going to
be a third round receiver for most of the year.
He still led them to the American Conference championship this year.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, so it's not fair of me to say, hey,
this guy's that athletic.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
He's completely athletic.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm just saying, hey, maybe doesn't have the arm strength
of a Josh Allen an Aaron Aaron Rodgers, but.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
At the same time, who does. Yeah, this guy brings
a lot to the table.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He's a multi sport star in high school, a four
point zero GPA guy. You mentioned the leadership in tangible,
so he definitely is going to be a name to watch.
On Day three of the draft, the Jets have two
fourth round selections, so with pick number one, thirty four overall,
where are you going?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I went at the defensive tackle position because if you
look at how that room is constructed right now, besides
Quinn Williams, everybody else is on a one year deal,
writ Zavon Kilow one year deal. Solomon Thomas Folks too,
one year deal. I went with Makay Wingo, who fits
perfectly in the system as an attacking defensive tackle three
technique that can help you with interior pass rush. And
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people will say it's a little undersized, but if you
turn on the film, he stays up in there. Ea
at the point of attack against double teams. Because he
is undersized, he has great lets beverage. He can get
up under blockers. But talk about first step quickness. That
is what Robert Sala likes with his defensive lineman. He
wants them to have that first step quickness to be
able to create havoc in the backfield. We know that
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this defense is run by the defensive line. Like the
defensive line helps with everything else at linebacker and in
the secondary, so you can never have enough of those
guys in rotation. And again, I would like for the
just to finally draft somebody that can grow with Quinn Williams,
that can learn from him and eventually maybe even become
a starter next to him. I think this is a
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sweet spot right here in the fourth round to take
a defensive tackle.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
He started his collegiate career at Missouri, finished up at
LSU most of the time with the Bayou Bangles. He's
playing three tech. Is that where you think he's gonna
play on the next level as well?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Well? I think about the LSU defense, it's a hybrid defense.
They do a mixture of four to three three four,
And you see him sometimes as a head up nose,
So I think he can play the one technique as well,
especially in this system. It's a more attacking system with
the Jets. It's not like he'll be in there, you know,
taking on six or seven hundred pounds like if he's
doing that, the linebacker's got to go and that's how
this defense is bred. So I believe he can stay
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at the one technique or the three technique. And with
Robert Sola's defense, both of the d tackles are interchangeable.
You got to be able to play both. I think
Makay Wingo can do both.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I like that people rave about his competitive nature. He
was also a team captain. You play the position. When
people say short arms, yeah, specific what what's the thought
process and what are you looking for on film?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well, you look at it in two ways, right, Because
this defensive tackle group, I've been saying this, I think
they haven't gotten enough respect for what they do. And
I think it's just because of the thought process of
what you're talking about. EA. People talking about short arms,
shorter bill guys. But if you look at the evolution
of where the NFL is gone, it's kind of become
that at the defensive tackle position. When you look at
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guys like you know, Aaron Donald, who was shorter defensive
tackle right, but still had great strength at the point
of attack. When you look at this draft, the guys
like Brandon Fizz, McKay Wingo, even Byron Murphy, they're not
the biggest guys right, but they're very explosive in their
lower half. And the thing about it is they've had
short arms their whole lives, so they've had to adapt
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to that. Now on film, sometimes you do see them
struggle get disengaging quicker because they can't get that extension
because their arms on as long. But these again, these
are guys that have been playing with that deficiency their
whole life, if that's what you want to call it
a deficiency. To me, I think that's what keeps a
chip on their shoulder because everybody's telling them, you know,
you got shorter arms, you struggle, you know, we wonder
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can you stay up in there in the double teams?
Can you disengage and get off blocks and make plays
on the running backs and both all the guys that
I talked about have been able to do that on film.
So yeah, you worry about a guy maybe disengaging quick
enough to you know, get off a blocker and make
it play on a running back. But again, these guys
have all been deficient in the area of their whole lives,
and yet they've still been able to make plays.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
All right, So McKay wingo goes to the Jets with
the second of four of their two fourth round selections.
Let's move into round six. Now, dudes, you've been talking
about the need for the Jets to add a safety.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Now that was prior to Ashton Davis resigning.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
With taking that into account, you still think the Jets
could make a play here for that position on day three?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Oh for sure. I mean the depth still isn't strong
at the safety position. And yeah, we talked about this
before Ashton came back to the Jets and signed the
one year deal. I thought this was a higher priority.
I took a safety in the third round and people
looked at me crazy, and I was like, have you
seen the debt or lack thereof on the roster right now?
How did you look at me crazy for taking a
safety in the third round. Knowing that Jeff Obrich and
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Robert Salad liked to use three safeties in their defensive
sets at times I don't understand it, so I still
took a filler one Evan Williams, who I believe is
a really good in the box safety. This guy will
hit you. I mean he will hit you. So he's
gonna fit in that mold that Robert Sala and Jeff
Albrick really liked that. I wouldn't put him in the
middlefield safety. You know, that's why we have Tony for it.
Tony does a really good job being that middlefield half
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field safety, but a guy that's gonna be an enforcer
in the box. And Ashton Davis is a combination of
the two. He can do both. I think Chuck Clark
is a guy that can do both, but it's more
of an in the box safety guy. And let's not
forget he's coming off of major knee injury. Even though
it was earlier in the offseason last year. You would
assume that he's gonna be ready. You just never know
how these things are gonna respond. So I think he's
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a great developmental safety that could eventually turn into your
third safety.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You were down in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Ball
like every year. How much did he impress you during
that week and maybe during that time, dude, does he come,
does he make a transition from probably, Hey, this guy
could be an undrafted dude, maybe a priority free agent too.
Oh no, he's going to go on day three now.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah. I think he solidified hisself in Day three, especially
at the Singer Bowl. You saw what you saw on
tape at Organ, how he flies around to the football right,
it jumps off on tape and again you know the
mantra for the Jets all gas snow breaks. You have
to have that type of mentality when you're playing in
a Jeff Albrick Robert solid defense. So when I saw
him at the Singer Bowl and I saw him flying
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around and even saw him, you know, cover better than
I thought I would see him because on film you
saw some struggles there at times when he's in open
space trying to cover in zone. He did a little
bit better job in mobile. But I really like him
as an in the box guy. I think that's where
he'll flourish. I think he'll be he'll flourish on special
teams as well.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
A great point about special teams. Last point here. He
was an effective blitzer last year, Organ, wasn't he.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
That's why I like him in the box, like bringing
him off the edge. We see from time to time.
Now Jeff Olbrick doesn't major in blitzing just because our
defensive line can get after you with just four. But
when he does blitz, whether it's bringing Quincy william off
the edge or even White had when he was here,
sometimes bringing him, you know, through the middle of the
defense or off the edge like Evan Williams is a
guy that can come off the edge and get to
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the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
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Speaker 1 (24:19):
You never know when a trade is going to happen,
and reports are the Jets made their second trade of
the off season involving twenty twenty four draft picks on Monday,
sending quarterback Zach Wilson and a seventh round pick number
two fifty six overall to the Broncos in exchange for
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a sixth.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Rounder number two three.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Before we get to two oh three here on the
mock draft, what are your thoughts of the deal and
Zach Wilson going back to the Mountain West.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, we kind of knew this was coming down the pike.
EA Zack Wilson, you know, up and down career with
the Jets, and you assume when the Jets signed Tyrod
Taylor as the backup quarterback for Aaron Rodgers that there
was going to be some business that was going to
be done. You know, Zach Wilson wasn't with the team
at the start of the offseason program. So I think
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this is a win win honestly for both teams, right,
because sometimes as a player you just need a fresh start.
And you talked about it, right, He's going back to
the Mountain West, closer to his family. You would hope that,
you know, maybe with Sean Payton they can get the
best out of his talent. He was the number two
overall pick and maybe he'll be a little bit more
comfortable closer to family. So just was Zach Wilson the
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best didn't work out here with the Jets, right, So
I think this was best needed for both teams, not
just you know, the Broncos, but as far as Zach
Wilson and the Jets for him to start a.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
New bottom line, the writing was on the wall as
soon as the season ended. And also just from the
perspective of this guy being who's someone who used to
walk the halls here at one Jets Drive. Like you said,
you hope that he is able to get his career
on track in Denver. And sometimes people just need new
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opportunities and a new place to start the career.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Correct, Yep, perfect example. Geno Smith went through the same
thing here with the New York Jets, was able to
go to the Giants and Chargers. Then he found his
home with the Seattle Seahawks. And look at him now, right,
pro Bowl quarterback just a year ago, played really well
last year when he was healthy. Now he's going to
be a starter for his third year in a row.
So sometimes you just need a fresh start in a
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new environment and hopefully you can channel some of that
talent that you had that made you such a high draftic.
And again, just wishing nothing but the best for Zach
Wilson as he moves forward with the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Hey, wouldn't it be something if he's the starter when
the Broncos actually come to the Jets next season.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We'll have to see it's all unfold.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, that is what's great because if you look at
it and you look at the current roster, I think
the biggest thing with Zack. People always wanted him to
be able to sit behind a veteran and learn what
if he goes out in Denver and balls ends up
being a starter because they do have the number twelve pick,
but I think it's high for a quarterback in this draft,
depending on who actually falls there, So they could potentially
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maybe try to trade back and get a guy in
the second round. But either way, like Zacha has a
good opportunity to kind of rewrite his history in Denver,
And like you said, wouldn't it be poetic justice? Right
if Denver Broncos when they come to town, Zack Wilson
is the starting.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Quarter Listen, It's possible. It certainly is possible.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Because you're talking about that Broncos quarterback room right now.
The most proven guy there, you would say, is Jared Stidham.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I would say maybe Zach Wilson honestly, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Right, well yeah, well, Wilson definitely has more experience, But
I don't know as far as like a depth chart
is concerned, I don't know if right now Sean Payton
would put Steddham first or.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Well Stedham would be the starter for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely more experienced, so he gets a
fresh start. The Jets have two veteran quarterbacks in your
mock draft. You have already taken that developmental passer from
Tulane for the New York Jets in the fourth round,
but you're up to the sixth round with the two
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hundred and third overall selection.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Now the Jets pick.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Who offensive tackle Tyland Grable from UCF, A developmental tackle
that's very athletic. Believe he ran in a sub five
forty at the combine, so you see the athletic ability.
There was a Eastern West guy had a really good
week in the East and West game, and he's a
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guy that with his athletic ability, does a really good
job of cutting guys off from the backside. The one
thing that may be concerned he's not the biggest guy.
Hea He's only about three hundred three hundred and five pounds,
and sometimes speed the power can be an issue for
this guy. But has really good footwear right as times up.
You know, his punch really well on opposing defenders. So
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he's a guy I think it could be really a
really good developmental guy and maybe even down the stretch
be a swing guy. For you.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, where do you go to school?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I think he went to the best university in the
land EA, UCF. This has no bearing on me picking
him here in the sixth round.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The University of Central Florida, where one Leja Ducible also
played college football.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
This is correct. This is correct. But again this has
no bearing because we saw earlier in my draft I
took Ricky Pirisol in the third round where I could
have took Javon Baker and I didn't.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Former college quarterback here.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, interesting backstory, and you find a lot of those
there late in the draft.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Which leads us to mister.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Irrelevant number two fifty seven overall.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Last.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
But no, at least here's the guy who's going to
have a parade. I think they have this whole big
set up in Newport, California following the draft, so as
opposed to signing a priority free agent, and the Jets
are gonna select who here.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm gonna go to the great state of West Virginia. No,
not the University of West Virginia. Ea. I'm gonna go
to Huntington, West Virginia. Marshall their running back Rashen Ali.
I love this kid's game. He is a guy that
has a lot of patience behind the line of scrimmage.
Is also a really good pass protector and we know
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ea a lot of Rocky struggle when it comes to
that coming into the league. He's a guy that will
fit it up there and block blitzing linebackers really well.
I think he'll be a really good developmental guy. That's
a chance to make this team on special teams and
potentially help you out on some third downs with protections.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Shout out to Dane by Ruler who puts together the
Beast every year as far as his breakdowns on all
the college prospects. This guy has an interesting background the
running back from Marshall, doesn't he because he grew up
in Cleveland. His dad own and operated a jim His
production at school off the charts got nine zone a
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lot lejay.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I think it was fifteen touchdowns last year.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
One thing you want to see him work on at
the next level ball security, right.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
For sure, And you alluded to some of the great
things about him. He's a finisher in the red zone.
He's a tough, physical runner, right, He's gonna get across
that goal line. But you talked about it. The ball
security he'd probably be a little bit higher up on
this draft board if it wasn't for that. He does
tend to every once in a while lose that ball.
So that's something that you can hope will be developed
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with coaching, and this is a perfect spot to take
him as mister irrelevant and hopefully the Justs can develop
this guy and he could be a really good back
and also again help you out on special teams.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
All right, so what do you think about Lejay dousables
twenty twenty four New York Jets draft class. Starting with
the headliner Troy Fatanu out of Washington with that number
ten overall selection, you go to Florida and take Ricky
Pearson with the third round selection, slick Rick Michael Pratt
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developmental quarterback. There in the fourth round, McKai Wingo, defensive
tackle out of LSU, a really NonStop motor, a guy
who produced and could come in and you think fit
in quite well with the Jets loaded defensive line. Evan Williams,
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a hard hitting safety from Oregon who was all over
the field. You project him as a box safety Grable
your fellow UC Afflam of course, a guy developmental prospect
in the sixth round and then finally.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Rasheen Alie out of Marshall.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Jets have a top flight running back in Brest Hall.
We like what we saw out of is he Abana
Kanda last year, but you could use some depth in
that office of backfield as well.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, I really loved this class. And again just depending
on the scenario. In this scenario, the top three receivers
were gone, the top two offensive tackles were gone. I
could have went to least for Waga, who a lot
of people say GM Joe Douglas has an infinity for
but I went with Fatanu just because of the position flexibility.
I think he can maybe even play center as well.
I think that's how talented this kid is. And we
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know when the NFL guys get banged up. We got
two starting tackles. They're in their mid thirties, once coming
off a torn peg surgery and the other one has
hasn't had a complete season. I think in the last
four years. He's missed some time in Tyron Smith. So
you have Fortana Hugasa in there, and then even at
guard right Avt has had to deal with some injuries.
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If something were to happen to him for Tonal could
slide right in at guard and you wouldn't miss a step.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I like what you did here in terms of positional need,
because the Jets didn't have glaring needs going into this draft,
but they pick up an offensive lineman who you really
like his versatility, then they get a receiver that's a
group you have to add to. Obviously, after this trade
of Zach Wilson, you got to get a developmental quarterback
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in the building. And you've been talking about these defensive
tackles who are going to line up adjacent to Quinn Williams,
but they're all on short term deals. Then safety, you've
been talking about depth at deposition for a long time.
Grabil is an other offensive lineman. Joe Douglas wants to
continue to add there to the trenches. And we saw
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the Jets play thirteen different offensive line combinations I think
sixteen offensive linemen in all. And then finally, al Lee
is a guy who could bet to make this roster
and potentially help on special teams.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, exactly. I like like you said, the positional value
and where I took guys in regards to needs. Again,
you would like to get one of the top three receivers,
but it didn't pan out that way. In this draft scenario,
you get a really good offensive lineman who has the
versatility to play multiple positions. And then in the third
round our guy slick Rick pearsall right, the guy that's
one of the best slot receivers in this league. Now
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you can't play on the outside as well, but he
does a lot of his damage in the slot. One
of the best route runners in this draft, does a
really good job going up and getting the football as well,
and does have speed. Even though people question that, I
believe it ran a four to four one at the combine.
And I've been saying for the longest that there needs
to be a defensive tackle that can grow with Quinn Williams.
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And that's why I took Makai Wingo, because if you
look at everybody else besides Quinn Williams, they're all on
one of your deals EA. And then with the trade
to Zach Wilson, you heard GM Joe Douglas said we
would love to be a quarter factory, So why not
take a swing out of developmental guy in the forefront
of Michael Pratt, who I think will fit right in
with that quarterback Room, a proven leader and winner that
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throws with a lot of touch. You can sit and
learn behind two really good vets and Tyrod Taylor and
also Aaron Rodgers. And then the back of the draft,
we took Evan Williams, who will help you out on
safety on special teams, but a guy I think eventually
could be your number three safety in the box safety
as a great blitzer and a hard hitter and a
tone center in that secondary. Tylan Grabow developmental tackle. And
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then Rashine Ali will be a developmental running back. So
I really love this class. Ea, I'm sure you do.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
It's yours, it is my class.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So yeah, okay, so final thoughts here. We just went
three year mock draft. But your thoughts on what's going
ahead with the decisions that are going to be made
for Joe Douglas and crews gonna happen at the top
of the draft Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
So in talking about exact, not about the Jets, but
literally what's gonna happen with the draft and how it can.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You know, impact dudes, bottom line, how's it going to
impact what the Jets landscape looks like?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, So, looking at the draft, I could see you
know we are kind of it's almost inevitable that Caleb
Williams most likely is going number one overall. Look at
number two, I still think Jay there's a strong belief
that Jayde and Daniels will go to overall. Just makes
too much sense with Cliff Kingsbury being the offensive coordinator
and looking at you know, jayd and Daniels' skill set
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just looks like a perfect marriage for those two guys. Honestly,
at three, I think is where the draft starts. I
think the page game trade out of three. Honestly, I
think they're gonna tray because they just have so many
holes on their roster right now, why not try to
trade back and get some more blue chip players because
the Cobe Brissette is proven he can be a spot
starter in this league and even win you games. Right So,
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like I think, you know, Comeo to Rob Mayo has
a lot of faith in Jacoby Brisset, and I believe
that team does as well. Where they take a filler
on a quarterback, probably in the second round.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Are you still circling Minnesota there?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, I think Minnesota trades up depending on if they
have the enough capital to do it. That now they
do have two first round picks this year. I think
it would take two first this year and maybe even
a third to move from eleven to three. And if
you're the New England Pagers, you try to even get
three first for them to move up, right, So I
believe they have the draft capitol to potentially move up
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depending on what they want to do with picks in
twenty twenty five. Right, But they do have the two
first round picks this year because of the trade they
made with the Houston Texans already. So when you look
at that, I think Minnesota definitely, you know, moves up
and tries to get their quarterback and I think it'll
be Drake May at number three. If you just look
at the history of Drake May, he was coached by
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Josh McCown in high school, who is the current quarterback
coach for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Would you be surprised if any one other than Marvin
Harrison Junior goes for overall to Arizona.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, that's not happening. Marvin Harrison Junior will be the
number four pick at Arizona.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So let's get to five car balls starting his program
there with the Chargers. Are you looking at them as
a potential team that is going to look to add
a bunch of assets and maybe potentially gets out.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, I think they're going to try to trade back
if they can, just depending on how the first three
picks go, sat Minnesota isn't able to make a trade
happen with New England. I think New England actually takes
Marvin Harrison at number three. Then if that's the case,
just again, because they need so many you know, they
have so many holes on their roster, why not get
a blue chip guy. It could be your true number
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one receiver out in New England. So the Chargers I
think will potentially try to trade out and maybe they's
a partner with the Minnesota Vikings. If New England can't
trade out, I think Arizona would be crazy to trade out.
If Marvin Harrison Junior is there, why not pair him
with Kylin Murray And I Murray has a true number
one because they lost their number one into receiver this offseason,
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So Michael Wilson is a nice young player, So I
think Martin Harrison goes for Depending on what happens with
the third pick, I think the Chargers either take Mylaitue
Neighbors or Joe All or trade out.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay, so let's end here Joe Douglas, At what point
does he make a couple of calls? And we've done
multiple segments on this over the last few weeks, at
what point do you make a call to go up?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
And at what point are you seriously considering moving back?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, so when you get to pick seven, right, you
would assume that depending on if the Chargers take Joe
All or my league neighbors, if they don't take one
of those two guys, the Titans are going to take
one of those guys. Where I think we're kind of
assuming at this point, because Joe Shane and Brian Dabel
haven't been able to pick a quarterback of their own
for the future, you would assume at number six, if
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they don't try to trade up, they're going to pick
a quarterback at that spot. Right. I know a lot
of Giants fans will not love to hear that, but
I'm just letting you know how football minds think. Every
GM and every head coach want to be attached to
a quarterback of their picking. Well, they haven't been allotted
that favorite because Daniel Jones was already there when both
of those guys got there. So when you get to
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seven again, if Joe All is there. If he's not,
then you take oulu fashionu right, and then that's when
if you're the Jets, that's when you call up now
again in this scenario, if the Chargers decide to go
offensive tackle instead of receiver, now you're potentially looking at
two of the top three receivers still there at pig eight.
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So if you're the Jets, you're sitting pretty right there, right,
You're sitting pretty pretty The only thing is you worry
about another team trying to call and jump you. That's
the issue at the Jets have. So even regardless of
if there is two receivers still there in the top ten,
I still would call it of falcons and see because
I think a lot of people assume they're going to
take the first defensive player off the board, which would
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be Dallas Turner where they feel comfortable, you know, coming
back just two spots, maybe giving up a fourth to
the six round pick to move back two spots to
still take their guy and have the Jets move up.
But eight, I think that's where it happens.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
So you're circling number eight.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Conversely, I don't think the Jets actually do have a
bad scenario. But what's the worst scenario where if you're
Joe Dee, like, hey, I'm really looking to collect another two,
I want more assets here? What happens at the top
where you're seriously looking for a dance partner to get
out of there?
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Well, this could be the worst case scenario here, say
the top two tackles, Well, the scenario that I played
for us, right, the top two tackles are gone, the
top three receivers are gone. So at ten, who is
going to be aggressive enough to move up for tackles
when this is a deep tackle class. And if you're
saying that fashion New and are the two blue chip
left tackles, even though Waga and fot New are really
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good and so were Tyler Guyan and Maarus Mems, well
you may feel like one of those dudes are gonna
fall to you. Do I need to give up draft
capital to move up? That's the only issue. And that's
why I did that exercise in our draft, right, because
that was that's literally the scenario the Jets could be
in where you most likely it's better for you to
just pick at ten because who's gonna truly want to
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move up if a lot of those tackles. Guys usually
only move up for quarterbacks or offensive tackles right or
top tier receivers. But if the top receivers are gone
and this is a deep offensive tackle class and say
fashion New at all is only are only like three
or four spots from Fuaga fought New or you know,
Memes or Tyler Guyan, then if you're a team, you're like,
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I'm not training up. One of those guys are gonna
fall to me. So that could be a scenario. The
Jets are in now you try to see if somebody
wants to, you know, move up for you know who
knows Brian Thomas. I don't see somebody moving up to
number ten for him, even though he's a really good player.
But unless somebody like really loves for Wagga, that would
be the only scenario. But we know, we've heard that
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Joe d has the fut you know, affinity for for Woga,
So I don't know if he just doesn't turn that
card in himself.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Well, the weight it's almost over, it's here, the twenty
twenty four NFL Draft. Is it finally upon us?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Hey, dude, it's been so much fun preview in the
draft over the last few weeks. We're gonna break it
down all next week. Why don't you tell folks where
they can find you over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah. So I'll be on CBS Sports Network this whole
week and throughout the weekend and CBS Sports HQ breaking down,
you know, different draft scenarios and during the draft breaking
down picks from everybody. So it's gonna be a fun
weekend again. He ate. So many players work their whole
life and their dreams were finally coming true. So it's
always a special time of year.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Special time of year, great analysis. We will talk to
you next week, brother.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Oh yeah, appreciate it. Yeah,
Welcome into the Official Jets podcast, Eric Allen joined by
Leja Duza Bawl.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Draft Week is here. Dudes, it's upon us.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Can you believe it? Ea? I mean I feel like
the season ended maybe a month ago, right, I feel like,
you know, the Super Bowl in Vegas was right like
literally yesterday, and now here we are, look at us
already ready for the new era of players to come
into the brotherhood of the NFL. Man Tom Flies, Tom Flies.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hea, time certainly does fly.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And this is our last pre draft podcast with dues,
and we're putting you on the clock for the New
York Jets. The Jets have seven overall selections dues, starting.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
With number ten overall.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Before we get to those picks, how did you go
about targeting players for the Jets needs this spring?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, so I went back and forth, and I actually
do this exercise where I think and I run down
like what teams or who they could potentially pick before
the Jets actually picked. So it was like a real exercise.
So when you look at this draft, it's based on
you know, going through each round seeing what player may
or may not be there most more specimply, in first round, right,
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I looked at the first nine picks, and did you
know some evaluation of what teams could potentially trade up
for the quarterbacks at the top of the draft, what
teams need, have certain needs at certain positions. And that's
how I was able to make my pick at number
ten and then even going down to the third round, right,
just going through the draft seeing what player could possibly
be there. So that's that's how, like I said, it's
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I was. I would want to say it was tedious
because I love going through this exercise because this is probably,
ea what my tenth mock draft, right, so it gets
fun every time when you just, you know, decipher who
could potentially be there, what team has a need, and
how they tried to fill it as to posed as
opposed to what the Jets are going to need at
that certain pick.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
All right, we control the cards, so we could do
this different than what's going to happen on draft weekend. Correct, Hey,
goal in order do you want to lead up to
number ten? Should we start backwards, should we start all
the way from mister irrelevant? Or you want to do
this traditional style?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Let's do a traditional style.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, fine, here we go number ten overall? Who did
he consider here before you put in the card.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, eh, I don't believe it's a secret anymore. Uh
my affinity from Roma Dune day. Yeah, but in this
mock he was already gone. So unfortunately he was not
there at the number ten pick for the Jets. So
I went back and back and forth to see best
player available, best fit, right, and that's how I came
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up with who I picked at the number ten spot.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
All right, So who was on the board. Who were
some names that Jets fans like? Who was on the board? Yep,
before you picked this a certain peck twelve alone.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, brock Bauers was still on the board. JC Latham
was still on the board, and Talie Uagga was still
on the board.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, Lege Dousable, you are now on the number ten
overall selection.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
We're out in the war room. We're all discussing what
we should do. Who's you know on our board at
this number ten spot. And when it came down to it,
I went with Troy Fataneu, the offensive tackle from Washington.
When you look at how he would fit in the
Jets plan, right, this is a guy that has positioned
flexibility and versatility. He could start at guard or at tackle,
but I think he's athletic enough he could really started tackling. Yes,
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I know the Jets brought in Tyrone Smith, they traded
for Morgan Moses, but both of those guys are in
their mid thirty and we've seen the issues that Jesse
had at the tackle position staying healthy. So why not
have a guy with the versatility to essentially almost start
every spot on the offensive line if somebody were to
go down, Because you got to think in this day
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and age, in the NFL seventeen games, ya, somebody most
likely is gonna get inged up, right, somebody's gonna have
to come in and spot start. And what better player
than Troy Fontanau, A guy like I said, the athletic
ability to stay at tackle, but I believe can play
guard at a high level as well. Kind of reminds
me of AVT when he came out right and he's
a guy that's been able to, you know, go from
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tackle to guard back to tackle. Hopefully this year he
can solidify himself at guard and just stay at guard.
I think Troy fontanu to beef up that offensive line
makes the most sense at pick number ten.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Interesting, dude, he played defensive line in high school. Number
two overall recruit out of the state of Nevada, played
in Nevada high school ball, so he knows Roman Dunda
from way back when got his degree in real estate.
Started every game each of the past two seasons. Okay,
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I like this kid as a prospect. You've been saying
for weeks, you've been standing on the table, well probably months, Yet,
gotta go receiver here because there's more of a need.
Why ultimately you said the top three receivers were off.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Okay, why no Bowers?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, when you look at positional value, We've had this discussion, Ea,
brock Bowers, I think is a hell of a player.
I don't want people coming after me and my DMS
and everything thinking I have something against brock Bowers. That's
simply not true. I think it's a hell of a player.
But for people that are saying, you can't just treat
him like a tight end, they said the same thing
about Kyle Pitts in Atlanta, and that still hasn't worked
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out to this day. They were literally comparing pitch to
a unicorn, Ea, because that's essentially what he was. He
was a freak athlete, just like Brock Bowers explosive in
the open field, just like Brock. But if you don't
have a set plan for a guy with that type
of skill set, it isn't worthy of a top ten pick,
and it usually doesn't work out. I know, I was
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on Twitter the other day or exit whatever you want
to call it, EA, and I was saying Dalton Kinka, like,
you know, he's kind of comparable to Brock Powers, and
people kind of got after me and I would say,
I said, I think Bowers is a better athlete, right,
and he probably blocks a little bit better. But I
will say it this year, Dalton Kinkad in Buffalo, I
saw some dog in him blocking I didn't see at Utah.
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So a lot of it has to come with coaching or
what they ask him to do at Utah. So if
Brock Bowers has a season like Dalton Kinkaid had, it's
a good season. But it's not a good season if
you're a top ten pick, right, because you got to
think about it. Garry Wilson was a top ten pick
and went over a thousand yards his rookie year. Dalton
k Kin I believe, had seventy three catches for right
under seven hundred yards, which is a quality year for
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a tight end. But if you're going in the top ten,
people are gonna say that's a bad year for him.
So like, why would you put that kid in that predicament?
To me, yes, I know Rock Bowers is a weapon
x if you would like to say that, but he's
still a traditional tight end. He can line up at
the traditional tight end spot, you can line him up
in the backfield, you can split him out, but most
tight ends in the NFL are doing that today anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Ea, So why Big Troy over Fuaga and also overlay them?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I just think the position flexibility. Now, Fuaga can play
guard as well, but I think he's more pencil than
as a right tackle in a guard where try Fontonu
could play right tackle, left tackle, left guard, right guard,
and I dare say he may be even able to
play center as well. So I just thought, with the
position flexibility, and even though the Jets have a starting
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five offensive line, why not get a guy that you
know is versatile enough to play every spot on the
offensive line if somebody were to get dinged up and
not just play play at a high level as well
at those positions. So it was tough hea. I went
back and forth between him and Wagga because Olu Fashnu
and Joe Walt were already off the board, right, So
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like I went back and forth between those two. I
just thought, as far as position flexibility, Troy fonton new
made a lot more sense.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I don't want to put the cart before the horse,
but you play your best five. You talked about the
Jets editions in the offseason. If you take font number
ten overall, will he ultimately be a day one starter
for you when you're opening the season up in twenty
twenty four?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And that's the question mark EA, And I think Joe
Douglas did a masterful job and the contracts that he
did with trading for Morgan Moses who doesn't have a
hot cat number. Same thing with Tyron Smith. So if
Troy Fontonu comes in and he's ready, he's the starter,
and Morgan Moses or dare I say, even Tyron Smith
would be your swing guy. And the crazy thing is
they're technically getting swing tackle type money anyway, right EA,
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when you look at and break down their contracts for
this last year. So to me, if Troy fontan neuw
comes in and proves that he's one of the best
starting fives. You start him like that's what it is.
And now let's not forget Morgan Moses in twenty one
when he came to the Jets, he was essentially supposed
to be the swing guy. Hea people forget that mkyy
Begthon got hurt in the first half Onirst Carolina and
that's why Morgan Moses went on to start for the
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rest of the season, right because George Fent was dealing
with some injuries as well, but mky Becthon going down
solidified Morgan Moses in the starting lineup and he just
never looked back. So Morgan Moses is used to being
in this predicament, so I think this would be something that,
of course, as a player, you want to be out
there and start. But if they asked him, you know, Morgan,
we need you to be the swing guy. And there's
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probably a high percentage chance you're gonna play this year
because we just know how the NFL works and guys
get dinged up. I think Morgan Moses would would be
up for that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Troy front Knew goes number ten overall to the Jets. Okay, dudes,
you are on the board. You had to wait out
round two. But it is Friday night, it is round three,
it is selection time. Picked number seventy two for the
New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Drum roll silky smooth Ricky Piersow, wide receiver from Florida.
I love this kid's game. A smooth route runner, does
a good job temple in his routes. And when I
say tempo, he gives you different cadences. That way, you
essentially don't know what route he's going to run. People
talked about his speed and worried about his speed he run.
He ran a sub four to five. I think I
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low four four one if I'm not mistaken. And you
see it on film, right, he took an end a
round versus Miszoo thirty plus yards and ea, if you
look at that Missouri defense, it's gonna be like five
or six gut selected in this draft. So that's a
top notch defense, and he outran all of them to
the end zone. So, Ricky Piersaw, we know that there
needs to be a receiver taking in this draft to
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pair with Garrett Wilson. Yes, we know. Mike Williams was
a big sign against free agency. But he's coming off
a major knee injury, right, so it'll give you the flexibility.
Even though Piersoll is a slot receiver, it'll give you
the flexibility to move Garrett Wilson from the outside to
the inside. Piersaw can play on the outside, but he
does a lot of his damage in the slot. So
in the third round, I think it makes a lot
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of sense, especially if you go O Line in the
first to rectify you know, the receiver room by getting
a guy who a lot of people see could be
a second round pick. But if he slides to the third,
I think you run that card in, especially if you
go O Line in the first round.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Okay, why is he there in round three? You mentioned
it before? Is it because the size and speed concerns?
And with that being said, I really like this kid's
production last year at Florida. You're talking about sixty five catches,
nine hundred and sixty five yards. He had the four
touchdowns last season, one hundred and fifty career receptions. A
transfer from Arizona.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
State, Arizona some players, you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
He was part of the recruiting class that included jayde
Day to go number two overall in this draft, do
you think to talk about some of the concerns maybe
and why are you sitting there in round three?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
But I just think, yeah, slaughtered him as a slot guy,
So slot guys usually go down lower in the draft.
And then we talked about this being one of the
deepest receiving classes, which means other positions will get pushed
up in the draft, and you could see some receivers
that are second round receivers drop into the third and
third round receivers drop into the fourth because teams feel
like I can still get a quality receiver later on
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in the draft, let me go attack a need that
I have and another position group that isn't as strong.
So that's a lot of times what you see in
these drafts, with you know, the offensive line being so
deep and the receivers being so deep. A lot of
those guys, like even a guy like Jordan Mrgan, who
I have slated to go at the end of the
first round, he may slide into the second just because
this is a deep offensive line class and teams that
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have needs in other positions. If there's a premium player there,
you're gonna make an emphasis on trying to go get
that player because that position group is not as strong
and it may be harder for you to answer that
void later on in the draft. So I think this
is just, you know, a component of Ricky Pierso being
in a really deep receiver class. Again, he could go
at the end of the second round, but I got
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him here at the top of the third.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Hey, dudes, what do you think about him being on
the all nickname team slick Rick?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
You like that? I like slick Fricky Fears probably have
the best catching college football all last year for Charlotte,
going up against his body, one hand snacking the ball
out of the year. So he has really good hands. Again,
a really good route runner, temples his routes really well
to be able to shake free thee. There is one
concern and press man. Sometimes he struggles to get off press,
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so that could be another reason why he may slip
a little bit lower.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Okay. I like that selection myself.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I am a former Gator, so bringing in bringing in
here Florida alump.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So the Jets have a pair of seasoned veteran quarterbacks
at the top of their depth chart in Aaron Rodgers
Tyrod Taller. But hey, did you like what you heard
up from Joe Douglas the other day. He said he
wants to build a quarterback factory here. I started thinking
to myself, Hey, Jets, they're gonna be adding a quarterback
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here on day three and for you, no surprise, you
go signal caller here round four.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, without a doubt, I think every team every year
should take a look at a quarterback right just because,
for one, if you're able to develop that guy, he's
a trade chip later on until you just never know
what's gonna happen with your starting quarterback. So I took
a flyer here in the fourth round and one of
my favorite prospects in the draft, Michael Pratt, the quarterback
from Tulane. I mean to me, throws with the most
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touched in this draft class. Now, he doesn't have the
biggest arm ea right, and sometimes struggles with them, throws
deep down the field outside the numbers. But you talk
about a leader, three time captain right knows how to win.
People tend to forget. Last year against USC and the
Cotton Bowl, he put on a display verse them and
put up over fifty points against USC. Now, again, that's
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not a really good defense. So I'm a purposely by
saying that, but nobody gave Tulane a chance in that game.
He's an ultimate leader, a heck of a competitor. EA.
They put this guy in the run game, right, so
don't talk about his athletic ability. He used him in
the run game, and you see the toughness and grittiness
when he runs with the football. He's a guy that
people just rally around. I think he's a perfect fit
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to come in sit behind Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers
for two years with the opportunity maybe in two years
to take over as a starting quarterback for the New
York Jets.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So let's stay right there, dudes.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Takes Michael Pratt out of Tulane with the first of
two fourth round selections for the Jets. That's number one
eleven overall. You actually do see starting potential in this guy.
Even though Pratt he sees the field really well. People
say it's calming in the pocket, very poised. He and also,
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like you mentioned, the toughness factor, not afraid to run it,
very smart, cerebral. With his athletic maybe limitations, you still
see a potential NFL starter here.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I do, and I've always been higher on micropracting people.
I mean, starting this process, I had him as a
late second round pick, and then I moved him into
the third, so I would not be surprised if a
team even tried to get him in the third round.
You know, a lot of people will say on Day
two it's probably going to be maybe Bo Nicks, Spencer Ratler,
and I think Pratt was that third guy that could
potentially slide into the third and if not, he's most
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likely going to be the first quarterback taken in the
fourth round. And good for to just to have a
pretty high fourth round pick if he's able to be there,
I think it just makes sense as a developmental guy
for a year or two, most likely two years, sit
behind Rogers, sit behind Tyrod Taylor, and I think he
has starting potential. I talked about it again, the way
he's able to elevate his team at Tulane back to
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back years going to the American Conference Championship Game, and
if you look at what he did this year without
having his number one receiver, Jawan Jackson's probably going to
be a third round receiver for most of the year.
He still led them to the American Conference championship this year.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, so it's not fair of me to say, hey,
this guy's that athletic.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
He's completely athletic.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm just saying, hey, maybe doesn't have the arm strength
of a Josh Allen an Aaron Aaron Rodgers, but.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
At the same time, who does. Yeah, this guy brings
a lot to the table.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He's a multi sport star in high school, a four
point zero GPA guy. You mentioned the leadership in tangible,
so he definitely is going to be a name to watch.
On Day three of the draft, the Jets have two
fourth round selections, so with pick number one, thirty four overall,
where are you going?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I went at the defensive tackle position because if you
look at how that room is constructed right now, besides
Quinn Williams, everybody else is on a one year deal,
writ Zavon Kilow one year deal. Solomon Thomas Folks too,
one year deal. I went with Makay Wingo, who fits
perfectly in the system as an attacking defensive tackle three
technique that can help you with interior pass rush. And
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people will say it's a little undersized, but if you
turn on the film, he stays up in there. Ea
at the point of attack against double teams. Because he
is undersized, he has great lets beverage. He can get
up under blockers. But talk about first step quickness. That
is what Robert Sala likes with his defensive lineman. He
wants them to have that first step quickness to be
able to create havoc in the backfield. We know that
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this defense is run by the defensive line. Like the
defensive line helps with everything else at linebacker and in
the secondary, so you can never have enough of those
guys in rotation. And again, I would like for the
just to finally draft somebody that can grow with Quinn Williams,
that can learn from him and eventually maybe even become
a starter next to him. I think this is a
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sweet spot right here in the fourth round to take
a defensive tackle.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
He started his collegiate career at Missouri, finished up at
LSU most of the time with the Bayou Bangles. He's
playing three tech. Is that where you think he's gonna
play on the next level as well?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Well? I think about the LSU defense, it's a hybrid defense.
They do a mixture of four to three three four,
And you see him sometimes as a head up nose,
So I think he can play the one technique as well,
especially in this system. It's a more attacking system with
the Jets. It's not like he'll be in there, you know,
taking on six or seven hundred pounds like if he's
doing that, the linebacker's got to go and that's how
this defense is bred. So I believe he can stay
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at the one technique or the three technique. And with
Robert Sola's defense, both of the d tackles are interchangeable.
You got to be able to play both. I think
Makay Wingo can do both.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I like that people rave about his competitive nature. He
was also a team captain. You play the position. When
people say short arms, yeah, specific what what's the thought
process and what are you looking for on film?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well, you look at it in two ways, right, Because
this defensive tackle group, I've been saying this, I think
they haven't gotten enough respect for what they do. And
I think it's just because of the thought process of
what you're talking about. EA. People talking about short arms,
shorter bill guys. But if you look at the evolution
of where the NFL is gone, it's kind of become
that at the defensive tackle position. When you look at
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guys like you know, Aaron Donald, who was shorter defensive
tackle right, but still had great strength at the point
of attack. When you look at this draft, the guys
like Brandon Fizz, McKay Wingo, even Byron Murphy, they're not
the biggest guys right, but they're very explosive in their
lower half. And the thing about it is they've had
short arms their whole lives, so they've had to adapt
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to that. Now on film, sometimes you do see them
struggle get disengaging quicker because they can't get that extension
because their arms on as long. But these again, these
are guys that have been playing with that deficiency their
whole life, if that's what you want to call it
a deficiency. To me, I think that's what keeps a
chip on their shoulder because everybody's telling them, you know,
you got shorter arms, you struggle, you know, we wonder
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can you stay up in there in the double teams?
Can you disengage and get off blocks and make plays
on the running backs and both all the guys that
I talked about have been able to do that on film.
So yeah, you worry about a guy maybe disengaging quick
enough to you know, get off a blocker and make
it play on a running back. But again, these guys
have all been deficient in the area of their whole lives,
and yet they've still been able to make plays.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
All right, So McKay wingo goes to the Jets with
the second of four of their two fourth round selections.
Let's move into round six. Now, dudes, you've been talking
about the need for the Jets to add a safety.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Now that was prior to Ashton Davis resigning.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
With taking that into account, you still think the Jets
could make a play here for that position on day three?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Oh for sure. I mean the depth still isn't strong
at the safety position. And yeah, we talked about this
before Ashton came back to the Jets and signed the
one year deal. I thought this was a higher priority.
I took a safety in the third round and people
looked at me crazy, and I was like, have you
seen the debt or lack thereof on the roster right now?
How did you look at me crazy for taking a
safety in the third round. Knowing that Jeff Obrich and
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Robert Salad liked to use three safeties in their defensive
sets at times I don't understand it, so I still
took a filler one Evan Williams, who I believe is
a really good in the box safety. This guy will
hit you. I mean he will hit you. So he's
gonna fit in that mold that Robert Sala and Jeff
Albrick really liked that. I wouldn't put him in the
middlefield safety. You know, that's why we have Tony for it.
Tony does a really good job being that middlefield half
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field safety, but a guy that's gonna be an enforcer
in the box. And Ashton Davis is a combination of
the two. He can do both. I think Chuck Clark
is a guy that can do both, but it's more
of an in the box safety guy. And let's not
forget he's coming off of major knee injury. Even though
it was earlier in the offseason last year. You would
assume that he's gonna be ready. You just never know
how these things are gonna respond. So I think he's
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a great developmental safety that could eventually turn into your
third safety.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You were down in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Ball
like every year. How much did he impress you during
that week and maybe during that time, dude, does he come,
does he make a transition from probably, Hey, this guy
could be an undrafted dude, maybe a priority free agent too.
Oh no, he's going to go on day three now.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah. I think he solidified hisself in Day three, especially
at the Singer Bowl. You saw what you saw on
tape at Organ, how he flies around to the football right,
it jumps off on tape and again you know the
mantra for the Jets all gas snow breaks. You have
to have that type of mentality when you're playing in
a Jeff Albrick Robert solid defense. So when I saw
him at the Singer Bowl and I saw him flying
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around and even saw him, you know, cover better than
I thought I would see him because on film you
saw some struggles there at times when he's in open
space trying to cover in zone. He did a little
bit better job in mobile. But I really like him
as an in the box guy. I think that's where
he'll flourish. I think he'll be he'll flourish on special
teams as well.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
A great point about special teams. Last point here. He
was an effective blitzer last year, Organ, wasn't he.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
That's why I like him in the box, like bringing
him off the edge. We see from time to time.
Now Jeff Olbrick doesn't major in blitzing just because our
defensive line can get after you with just four. But
when he does blitz, whether it's bringing Quincy william off
the edge or even White had when he was here,
sometimes bringing him, you know, through the middle of the
defense or off the edge like Evan Williams is a
guy that can come off the edge and get to
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the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
All right, Lejay dudesa boll.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
We have some breaking news right now on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
You never know when a trade is going to happen,
and reports are the Jets made their second trade of
the off season involving twenty twenty four draft picks on Monday,
sending quarterback Zach Wilson and a seventh round pick number
two fifty six overall to the Broncos in exchange for
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a sixth.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Rounder number two three.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Before we get to two oh three here on the
mock draft, what are your thoughts of the deal and
Zach Wilson going back to the Mountain West.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, we kind of knew this was coming down the pike.
EA Zack Wilson, you know, up and down career with
the Jets, and you assume when the Jets signed Tyrod
Taylor as the backup quarterback for Aaron Rodgers that there
was going to be some business that was going to
be done. You know, Zach Wilson wasn't with the team
at the start of the offseason program. So I think
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this is a win win honestly for both teams, right,
because sometimes as a player you just need a fresh start.
And you talked about it, right, He's going back to
the Mountain West, closer to his family. You would hope that,
you know, maybe with Sean Payton they can get the
best out of his talent. He was the number two
overall pick and maybe he'll be a little bit more
comfortable closer to family. So just was Zach Wilson the
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best didn't work out here with the Jets, right, So
I think this was best needed for both teams, not
just you know, the Broncos, but as far as Zach
Wilson and the Jets for him to start a.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
New bottom line, the writing was on the wall as
soon as the season ended. And also just from the
perspective of this guy being who's someone who used to
walk the halls here at one Jets Drive. Like you said,
you hope that he is able to get his career
on track in Denver. And sometimes people just need new
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opportunities and a new place to start the career.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Correct, Yep, perfect example. Geno Smith went through the same
thing here with the New York Jets, was able to
go to the Giants and Chargers. Then he found his
home with the Seattle Seahawks. And look at him now, right,
pro Bowl quarterback just a year ago, played really well
last year when he was healthy. Now he's going to
be a starter for his third year in a row.
So sometimes you just need a fresh start in a
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new environment and hopefully you can channel some of that
talent that you had that made you such a high draftic.
And again, just wishing nothing but the best for Zach
Wilson as he moves forward with the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Hey, wouldn't it be something if he's the starter when
the Broncos actually come to the Jets next season.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We'll have to see it's all unfold.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, that is what's great because if you look at
it and you look at the current roster, I think
the biggest thing with Zack. People always wanted him to
be able to sit behind a veteran and learn what
if he goes out in Denver and balls ends up
being a starter because they do have the number twelve pick,
but I think it's high for a quarterback in this draft,
depending on who actually falls there, So they could potentially
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maybe try to trade back and get a guy in
the second round. But either way, like Zacha has a
good opportunity to kind of rewrite his history in Denver,
And like you said, wouldn't it be poetic justice? Right
if Denver Broncos when they come to town, Zack Wilson
is the starting.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Quarter Listen, It's possible. It certainly is possible.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Because you're talking about that Broncos quarterback room right now.
The most proven guy there, you would say, is Jared Stidham.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I would say maybe Zach Wilson honestly, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Right, well yeah, well, Wilson definitely has more experience, But
I don't know as far as like a depth chart
is concerned, I don't know if right now Sean Payton
would put Steddham first or.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Well Stedham would be the starter for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely more experienced, so he gets a
fresh start. The Jets have two veteran quarterbacks in your
mock draft. You have already taken that developmental passer from
Tulane for the New York Jets in the fourth round,
but you're up to the sixth round with the two
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hundred and third overall selection.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Now the Jets pick.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Who offensive tackle Tyland Grable from UCF, A developmental tackle
that's very athletic. Believe he ran in a sub five
forty at the combine, so you see the athletic ability.
There was a Eastern West guy had a really good
week in the East and West game, and he's a
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guy that with his athletic ability, does a really good
job of cutting guys off from the backside. The one
thing that may be concerned he's not the biggest guy.
Hea He's only about three hundred three hundred and five pounds,
and sometimes speed the power can be an issue for
this guy. But has really good footwear right as times up.
You know, his punch really well on opposing defenders. So
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he's a guy I think it could be really a
really good developmental guy and maybe even down the stretch
be a swing guy. For you.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, where do you go to school?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I think he went to the best university in the
land EA, UCF. This has no bearing on me picking
him here in the sixth round.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The University of Central Florida, where one Leja Ducible also
played college football.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
This is correct. This is correct. But again this has
no bearing because we saw earlier in my draft I
took Ricky Pirisol in the third round where I could
have took Javon Baker and I didn't.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Former college quarterback here.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, interesting backstory, and you find a lot of those
there late in the draft.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Which leads us to mister.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Irrelevant number two fifty seven overall.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Last.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
But no, at least here's the guy who's going to
have a parade. I think they have this whole big
set up in Newport, California following the draft, so as
opposed to signing a priority free agent, and the Jets
are gonna select who here.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm gonna go to the great state of West Virginia. No,
not the University of West Virginia. Ea. I'm gonna go
to Huntington, West Virginia. Marshall their running back Rashen Ali.
I love this kid's game. He is a guy that
has a lot of patience behind the line of scrimmage.
Is also a really good pass protector and we know
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ea a lot of Rocky struggle when it comes to
that coming into the league. He's a guy that will
fit it up there and block blitzing linebackers really well.
I think he'll be a really good developmental guy. That's
a chance to make this team on special teams and
potentially help you out on some third downs with protections.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Shout out to Dane by Ruler who puts together the
Beast every year as far as his breakdowns on all
the college prospects. This guy has an interesting background the
running back from Marshall, doesn't he because he grew up
in Cleveland. His dad own and operated a jim His
production at school off the charts got nine zone a
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lot lejay.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I think it was fifteen touchdowns last year.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
One thing you want to see him work on at
the next level ball security, right.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
For sure, And you alluded to some of the great
things about him. He's a finisher in the red zone.
He's a tough, physical runner, right, He's gonna get across
that goal line. But you talked about it. The ball
security he'd probably be a little bit higher up on
this draft board if it wasn't for that. He does
tend to every once in a while lose that ball.
So that's something that you can hope will be developed
(31:52):
with coaching, and this is a perfect spot to take
him as mister irrelevant and hopefully the Justs can develop
this guy and he could be a really good back
and also again help you out on special teams.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
All right, so what do you think about Lejay dousables
twenty twenty four New York Jets draft class. Starting with
the headliner Troy Fatanu out of Washington with that number
ten overall selection, you go to Florida and take Ricky
Pearson with the third round selection, slick Rick Michael Pratt
(32:27):
developmental quarterback. There in the fourth round, McKai Wingo, defensive
tackle out of LSU, a really NonStop motor, a guy
who produced and could come in and you think fit
in quite well with the Jets loaded defensive line. Evan Williams,
(32:48):
a hard hitting safety from Oregon who was all over
the field. You project him as a box safety Grable
your fellow UC Afflam of course, a guy developmental prospect
in the sixth round and then finally.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Rasheen Alie out of Marshall.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Jets have a top flight running back in Brest Hall.
We like what we saw out of is he Abana
Kanda last year, but you could use some depth in
that office of backfield as well.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, I really loved this class. And again just depending
on the scenario. In this scenario, the top three receivers
were gone, the top two offensive tackles were gone. I
could have went to least for Waga, who a lot
of people say GM Joe Douglas has an infinity for
but I went with Fatanu just because of the position flexibility.
I think he can maybe even play center as well.
I think that's how talented this kid is. And we
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know when the NFL guys get banged up. We got
two starting tackles. They're in their mid thirties, once coming
off a torn peg surgery and the other one has
hasn't had a complete season. I think in the last
four years. He's missed some time in Tyron Smith. So
you have Fortana Hugasa in there, and then even at
guard right Avt has had to deal with some injuries.
(34:05):
If something were to happen to him for Tonal could
slide right in at guard and you wouldn't miss a step.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I like what you did here in terms of positional need,
because the Jets didn't have glaring needs going into this draft,
but they pick up an offensive lineman who you really
like his versatility, then they get a receiver that's a
group you have to add to. Obviously, after this trade
of Zach Wilson, you got to get a developmental quarterback
(34:31):
in the building. And you've been talking about these defensive
tackles who are going to line up adjacent to Quinn Williams,
but they're all on short term deals. Then safety, you've
been talking about depth at deposition for a long time.
Grabil is an other offensive lineman. Joe Douglas wants to
continue to add there to the trenches. And we saw
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the Jets play thirteen different offensive line combinations I think
sixteen offensive linemen in all. And then finally, al Lee
is a guy who could bet to make this roster
and potentially help on special teams.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, exactly. I like like you said, the positional value
and where I took guys in regards to needs. Again,
you would like to get one of the top three receivers,
but it didn't pan out that way. In this draft scenario,
you get a really good offensive lineman who has the
versatility to play multiple positions. And then in the third
round our guy slick Rick pearsall right, the guy that's
one of the best slot receivers in this league. Now
(35:26):
you can't play on the outside as well, but he
does a lot of his damage in the slot. One
of the best route runners in this draft, does a
really good job going up and getting the football as well,
and does have speed. Even though people question that, I
believe it ran a four to four one at the combine.
And I've been saying for the longest that there needs
to be a defensive tackle that can grow with Quinn Williams.
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And that's why I took Makai Wingo, because if you
look at everybody else besides Quinn Williams, they're all on
one of your deals EA. And then with the trade
to Zach Wilson, you heard GM Joe Douglas said we
would love to be a quarter factory, So why not
take a swing out of developmental guy in the forefront
of Michael Pratt, who I think will fit right in
with that quarterback Room, a proven leader and winner that
(36:10):
throws with a lot of touch. You can sit and
learn behind two really good vets and Tyrod Taylor and
also Aaron Rodgers. And then the back of the draft,
we took Evan Williams, who will help you out on
safety on special teams, but a guy I think eventually
could be your number three safety in the box safety
as a great blitzer and a hard hitter and a
tone center in that secondary. Tylan Grabow developmental tackle. And
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then Rashine Ali will be a developmental running back. So
I really love this class. Ea, I'm sure you do.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
It's yours, it is my class.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So yeah, okay, so final thoughts here. We just went
three year mock draft. But your thoughts on what's going
ahead with the decisions that are going to be made
for Joe Douglas and crews gonna happen at the top
of the draft Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
So in talking about exact, not about the Jets, but
literally what's gonna happen with the draft and how it can.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You know, impact dudes, bottom line, how's it going to
impact what the Jets landscape looks like?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, So, looking at the draft, I could see you
know we are kind of it's almost inevitable that Caleb
Williams most likely is going number one overall. Look at
number two, I still think Jay there's a strong belief
that Jayde and Daniels will go to overall. Just makes
too much sense with Cliff Kingsbury being the offensive coordinator
and looking at you know, jayd and Daniels' skill set
(37:37):
just looks like a perfect marriage for those two guys. Honestly,
at three, I think is where the draft starts. I
think the page game trade out of three. Honestly, I
think they're gonna tray because they just have so many
holes on their roster right now, why not try to
trade back and get some more blue chip players because
the Cobe Brissette is proven he can be a spot
starter in this league and even win you games. Right So,
(37:58):
like I think, you know, Comeo to Rob Mayo has
a lot of faith in Jacoby Brisset, and I believe
that team does as well. Where they take a filler
on a quarterback, probably in the second round.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Are you still circling Minnesota there?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, I think Minnesota trades up depending on if they
have the enough capital to do it. That now they
do have two first round picks this year. I think
it would take two first this year and maybe even
a third to move from eleven to three. And if
you're the New England Pagers, you try to even get
three first for them to move up, right, So I
believe they have the draft capitol to potentially move up
(38:32):
depending on what they want to do with picks in
twenty twenty five. Right, But they do have the two
first round picks this year because of the trade they
made with the Houston Texans already. So when you look
at that, I think Minnesota definitely, you know, moves up
and tries to get their quarterback and I think it'll
be Drake May at number three. If you just look
at the history of Drake May, he was coached by
(38:53):
Josh McCown in high school, who is the current quarterback
coach for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Would you be surprised if any one other than Marvin
Harrison Junior goes for overall to Arizona.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, that's not happening. Marvin Harrison Junior will be the
number four pick at Arizona.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So let's get to five car balls starting his program
there with the Chargers. Are you looking at them as
a potential team that is going to look to add
a bunch of assets and maybe potentially gets out.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, I think they're going to try to trade back
if they can, just depending on how the first three
picks go, sat Minnesota isn't able to make a trade
happen with New England. I think New England actually takes
Marvin Harrison at number three. Then if that's the case,
just again, because they need so many you know, they
have so many holes on their roster, why not get
a blue chip guy. It could be your true number
(39:45):
one receiver out in New England. So the Chargers I
think will potentially try to trade out and maybe they's
a partner with the Minnesota Vikings. If New England can't
trade out, I think Arizona would be crazy to trade out.
If Marvin Harrison Junior is there, why not pair him
with Kylin Murray And I Murray has a true number
one because they lost their number one into receiver this offseason,
(40:06):
So Michael Wilson is a nice young player, So I
think Martin Harrison goes for Depending on what happens with
the third pick, I think the Chargers either take Mylaitue
Neighbors or Joe All or trade out.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay, so let's end here Joe Douglas, At what point
does he make a couple of calls? And we've done
multiple segments on this over the last few weeks, at
what point do you make a call to go up?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
And at what point are you seriously considering moving back?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, so when you get to pick seven, right, you
would assume that depending on if the Chargers take Joe
All or my league neighbors, if they don't take one
of those two guys, the Titans are going to take
one of those guys. Where I think we're kind of
assuming at this point, because Joe Shane and Brian Dabel
haven't been able to pick a quarterback of their own
for the future, you would assume at number six, if
(41:02):
they don't try to trade up, they're going to pick
a quarterback at that spot. Right. I know a lot
of Giants fans will not love to hear that, but
I'm just letting you know how football minds think. Every
GM and every head coach want to be attached to
a quarterback of their picking. Well, they haven't been allotted
that favorite because Daniel Jones was already there when both
of those guys got there. So when you get to
(41:22):
seven again, if Joe All is there. If he's not,
then you take oulu fashionu right, and then that's when
if you're the Jets, that's when you call up now
again in this scenario, if the Chargers decide to go
offensive tackle instead of receiver, now you're potentially looking at
two of the top three receivers still there at pig eight.
(41:43):
So if you're the Jets, you're sitting pretty right there, right,
You're sitting pretty pretty The only thing is you worry
about another team trying to call and jump you. That's
the issue at the Jets have. So even regardless of
if there is two receivers still there in the top ten,
I still would call it of falcons and see because
I think a lot of people assume they're going to
take the first defensive player off the board, which would
(42:05):
be Dallas Turner where they feel comfortable, you know, coming
back just two spots, maybe giving up a fourth to
the six round pick to move back two spots to
still take their guy and have the Jets move up.
But eight, I think that's where it happens.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
So you're circling number eight.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Conversely, I don't think the Jets actually do have a
bad scenario. But what's the worst scenario where if you're
Joe Dee, like, hey, I'm really looking to collect another two,
I want more assets here? What happens at the top
where you're seriously looking for a dance partner to get
out of there?
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Well, this could be the worst case scenario here, say
the top two tackles, Well, the scenario that I played
for us, right, the top two tackles are gone, the
top three receivers are gone. So at ten, who is
going to be aggressive enough to move up for tackles
when this is a deep tackle class. And if you're
saying that fashion New and are the two blue chip
left tackles, even though Waga and fot New are really
(43:03):
good and so were Tyler Guyan and Maarus Mems, well
you may feel like one of those dudes are gonna
fall to you. Do I need to give up draft
capital to move up? That's the only issue. And that's
why I did that exercise in our draft, right, because
that was that's literally the scenario the Jets could be
in where you most likely it's better for you to
just pick at ten because who's gonna truly want to
(43:23):
move up if a lot of those tackles. Guys usually
only move up for quarterbacks or offensive tackles right or
top tier receivers. But if the top receivers are gone
and this is a deep offensive tackle class and say
fashion New at all is only are only like three
or four spots from Fuaga fought New or you know,
Memes or Tyler Guyan, then if you're a team, you're like,
(43:46):
I'm not training up. One of those guys are gonna
fall to me. So that could be a scenario. The
Jets are in now you try to see if somebody
wants to, you know, move up for you know who
knows Brian Thomas. I don't see somebody moving up to
number ten for him, even though he's a really good player.
But unless somebody like really loves for Wagga, that would
be the only scenario. But we know, we've heard that
(44:06):
Joe d has the fut you know, affinity for for Woga,
So I don't know if he just doesn't turn that
card in himself.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Well, the weight it's almost over, it's here, the twenty
twenty four NFL Draft. Is it finally upon us?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Hey, dude, it's been so much fun preview in the
draft over the last few weeks. We're gonna break it
down all next week. Why don't you tell folks where
they can find you over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah. So I'll be on CBS Sports Network this whole
week and throughout the weekend and CBS Sports HQ breaking down,
you know, different draft scenarios and during the draft breaking
down picks from everybody. So it's gonna be a fun
weekend again. He ate. So many players work their whole
life and their dreams were finally coming true. So it's
always a special time of year.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Special time of year, great analysis. We will talk to
you next week, brother.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Oh yeah, appreciate it. Yeah,
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