April 30, 2024 • 42 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined in the Audi Performance Studio by CBS Analyst/former Jets DL Leger Douzable to recap the Jets' 2024 NFL Draft.
1:15 - 1st-round pick Penn State offensive lineman Olu Fashanu's transition to the NFL
11:05 - 3rd-round pick wide receiver Malachi Corley; No Matter What!
15:05 - The Day 3 running backs selected in Wisconsin's Braelon Allen and South Dakota State's Isaiah Davis
22:33 - Bringing in a developmental quarterback in Florida State's Jordan Travis
28:10 - CFL standout Qwan'tez Stiggers' unique route to be the Jets 5th-round pick
34:10 - Not just Mr. Irrelevant but how Jaylen Key from Alabama can make the roster
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the official Jets podcast, Eric on here at
one Jets Drive, joined by Lejayduza bolt Well, the twenty
twenty four NFL draft came and went you what is
your thirty thousand foot observation of what the Jets did?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Very solid draft, Okaya, A lot of position of needs
were filled, right And I know people will look at
that first pick, and I know we're going to go
pick by pick, but I thought it was a home
run pick, the OLU fashion New pick. Just when you
look at you know where they got him at, where
he can come into a situation where he's learning behind
an all pro and a consummate pro, one being Tyron Smith,
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the other being Morgan Moses. And then let's not also
forget when you look at Morgan Moses's deal, essentially that
equates to a swing tackle deal, kind of like in
the twenty one season when he came to the Jets.
So if Oulu, you know, develops faster than the Jets
think you will, there's a good chance e a that
who's playing a lot sooner than people think.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Hmmm, very interesting. Okay, so let's stick there with the
big Penn State tackle. He has played left on the
left side all the way since high school. What would
the transition be for him as far as lining up
on the right side.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, it's tough. It's literally I've talked to a few
offensive linemen EA, and they say it's like doing everything backwards,
like tying one hand behind your back, because you have to.
Your brain function has to switch everything right from your
plant leg to your kick leg and everything so to
your punch hand. All that is opposite when you switch
from one side to the other. So it's not as
easy as people think. And the thing about it is,
(01:45):
I love Timon Smith, but ea, we've seen a history
of him not being able to complete seventeen game seasons.
So that's that's the tricky thing for this Jets coaching
staff in regards to Olu Fashionu like, when you're developing him,
do you just keep him at left for the future
and just in case Tyers Smith goes down or do
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you cross train him that way? He's the swing guy
and he can go in if anybody goes down at
right or left tackle. So that's that's the tidbit that
I cannot wait to find out what the plan is
going to be going forward.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
A lot dude, you could see it going either way, right,
because there are there are arguments on both sides there
that make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, there's an argument that you just want to,
you know, bring him in and just keep him and
plant him at left tackle because we kind of know
what the timer Smith is going to be a one
year thing. You took Olu at pick eleven, so he's
going to be the tackle of the future. Or because
you want to get the best players out on the field,
you cross train him right and in case somebody goes down,
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say Morgan Moses goes down, knock on wood, because that's
one thing he usually doesn't do is miss games, right,
he's an iron man. But just in case, you know,
you have him cross trains to go in at right
tackle as well. So that's that's the caveat to this,
this whole puzzle and put and get together for this
coaching staff. Do we just plant him at left tackle
or do we cross train him?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, We're gonna love to see how that actually unfolds.
Aaron Rodgers even mentioned him possibly playing guard. I don't
see that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
What you what do you think about that? Listen?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Aaron Rodgers brilliant dude. I think he was probably just
raving about his athletic ability. I think my take on
that is probably, hey, he's gonna yeah right. Uh, what
about the way the board actually fell before the Jets
went on the clock at ten? Uh, we knew there
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was going to be a run on offensive players, and
there certainly was. But what did you think about the
Jets options at ten and also the possibility of moving
off before that?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah? And it's crazy because when we did this mock,
I literally put us in the scenario that happened on
uh you throughout the draft. I made it nice as
hard as possible. I put it where there was going
to be a run on so many offensive players that
the Jets would have to trade up to potentially eight
to get to get Roma Dounze. But in ours I
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stayed patent to you know, Troy Fontanu because Rome went
at nine, just like he did in real life. So
I think I would not be surprised if Joe d
actually did reach out to Atlanta. I just think Atlanta
was staying pat I was one of the few people
that heard, you know, and got wind of the rumors
that they could take Michael Pennick Jr. Actually had a
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podcast that do for CBS. I stated it on that
Tuesday that do not be surprised that Atlanta Falcons be
a sneaky team to take a quarterback and that quarterback
be Michael Penick Junr. Just because I heard ea that
they flew out in the extensive work on him. I
know a lot of people didn't see that happening, them
taking a quarterback at eight just because they paid Kurt
co Chain's a bowload of money. But that kind of
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like threw the draft a little bit into tailspind because
even if Joe D reaches out to Atlanta, I heard
rumors that three other teams were trying to trade in
the top ten to get Michael Pennick Junior. So Atlanta
was never leaving off of eight. So I think Joe
D did what he could, and I love that he
was able to trade back just one spot and pick
up some draft capital. So kudos to him, you know,
(05:15):
for being smart and tactical in that situation and being
able to pick up a few extra pigs by moving
back just one spot.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So credit goes to you because you've got high on
panics throughout the scouting process. You thought people were sleeping
on him, and that comes to fruition on Thursday night,
Round one of the draft, where he goes eight overall
great six six quarterbacks taken in the top twelve selections,
too rich.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I never would have saw that. I would have never
saw that. I'm not even gonna like to Denver. I
had to talk to a few people, and I knew
that Sean Payne and and the Denver Brash were high
on Nicks. I thought it was a scenario where they
would try to trade back and maybe get him at
the end of the first at worse. But I think
there was a scenario where they were kind of pigeonholed
just because of the way the draft fell, and maybe
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not too many people wanted to move up. Kind of
surprised some teams didn't try to move up and get
a fatanu. He fell all the way to I believe
what twenty EA, which was a surprise. I did not
see that happening in the draft. So maybe Denver did
make some calls and nobody was willing to move up,
and maybe they just didn't feel comfortable dropping back too
far because they knew the Raiders were there at thirteen
it could they potentially have taken both knicks, so they
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ended up getting their quarterback of the future. To me,
little rich like you were saying, I didn't see twelve
quarterback I mean six quarterbacks going in the first twelve picks.
I mean that's literally fifty percent of the draft going
in the first twelve picks was quarterbacks. Like, when does
that ever happen? All right?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
What does it say about the state of the National
Football League that the first fourteen picks in the two
thoy twenty four NFL Draft we're all offensive players And
as a former defense alignment, are you pissed?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Of course I'm pissed. It's disgusting and lets you know it.
Lets you know the thought process of the NFL right now,
right it's the offensive base league. And more so, I
think teams are looking at it as if, yeah, I
don't have a quarterback, I have no chance, right because
I don't think anybody would have penciled six quarterbacks in
the first twelve And you stated it. The first defensive
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player was like Atsu Latsu. He didn't go to pick fifteen,
So almost halfway through the draft that was when the
first defensive player came, which is unheard of. I think
the longest and recent memory was like seven picks right
before a defensive player had been taken. So you're talking
about double that before a defensive player was taken. So
(07:37):
I just think it's it shows you the way the
NFL is trending. Offensive base league. The old school, you know,
defensive wins championships, ya is here no more.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But the bottom line is it from a Jets perspective,
it made sense that they were going to offensive player because, yeah,
they have a very good defense. Correct, that might be
elite if a couple things here this year, and on paper,
I think it's a better unit than last year. Bowl.
We'll get to that here in a couple moments. But
(08:06):
we knew all along that, hey, it's either going to
be tackle or receiver. And you weren't surprised at all
that Douglas did not take brock Powers.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Nope, not at all. And I've read some things and
talked to a few people, and I don't even think
it was a consideration for the Jets. Ea, You've heard
me say multiple times, I love this tight end room
the Jets have. We talk about Tyler Conklin, Jeremy Rucker
and I think Joe Douglas spoke to that as well,
and also Robert Sala. They love that tight end room
as well. And you talk about Zach Koons, a developmental
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guy that they took in the seventh who has another
year under his belt, you would think the development would
be there also with Kenny Yoboa. But those two top
guys I think are sure fired really good players. When
you talk about Tyler Conklin and Jeremy ruckerds so to me, again,
you can say what you want about Brock Bowers, and
again I like brock Brows as a player. Yeah, well,
positional value is a real thing. You could say he's
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a weapon X and all this, and that he's still
a tight end at the end of the day. And
you know, obviously the Raiders when they got to their pick,
even though they took Michael Mayer last year, they decided,
you know, he was so high on our board, let's
go ahead and grab him. I still thought that was
a little rich, even for him at thirteen. But I
love what the gestat and not getting Rock Bowers, not
to say he's not a good player. I just think
(09:18):
tackle made a lot more sense for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Is it possible that fashion Neu has a higher ceiling
than Joe Wald too went number five overall to the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He has the highest ceiling in this draft at offensive tackle.
I don't even think it's close. When you talk about
a guy that has the arm length that he has,
the lower body strength that he has, how he's able
to move people off the football. Now, a lot of
people will say in that Ohio State game, he got
beat with some power, but he still didn't give up
a sack in that game. So when you look at it,
at the end of the day, as long as your
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quarterback doesn't get sacked, you did your job as an
offensive tackle. So he's going to get stronger. He's already
got great lower body strengths. I saw he was working
out with Duke out there in Texas and I saw
some of those dead lift in the Lord's an. He's
he's a unit. Now, he's a unit. So he's only
going to get stronger.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Dude, if he's working out at the gym and I
walk in, I'm going to do some cardio.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'll be back to lift waights later.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So Day two, the Jets had to wait a little bit.
Joe Douglas. Uh, not afraid to trade on Draft weekend
six in all four trade downs.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, it's funny, we'll get into Malachi. But I literally
thought on day three, I'm like, are the Jets ever
gonna pick the eight? Like every time we were up,
it was a trade back, trade down, trade back, trade back.
But get it into Corley. This was a guy that
the Jets were extremely high on, right. You know, they
got to see him out there at the Senior Bowl
and you saw the text message that went viral right
(10:52):
between Joe d and Robert Sala Malachi Coraley no matter what,
right little Draft day homage right there. Respect to that
movie and.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The way Ethan interviewed him on Ethan Greenbergy after the truck.
I saw that and al said he loved the movie
but hated it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Does No GM probably likes that movie, man. No GM
probably likes that movie. When you talk about Melicai Corley
and what he refits in with the Jets, I think
the Jets were high on him than a lot of
other than more than other teams three. There's rumors. There's
rumors that he was number four after the Big Three
on their list, which I could see why when you
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look at the way he plays, it kind of fits
the mantra of all gas no breaks that Robert Salah has.
He is a guy that you just got to get
the ball in space. They call him the yacht king,
right because yards after contact are big for him, or
yards after I say yards after contact. For him it's
yards after contact, but that means yards after catch, but
for Melica it's yards after contact. Because he's a guy
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that's no fair dodging. I mean, this guy put up
two twenty five, twenty seven times. That's what d Lineman
put up, right. So you see the strength in the body.
You see it on film constantly, him just shrugging guys off,
running through guys. He's one of those guys that he's
gonna make defensive backs make business decisions ea. And he's
a guy where you just get the ball to him
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and on screens, on crossing patterns, you know, speed sweeps,
and just let him go. He has a different skill
set than any other receiver in that room. So that's
why I think he fits in really well. He's a
guy that's probably gonna get five to six touches a
game where they just get him the ball in space
and just let him go.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
It's interesting the way he was used at Western Kentucky.
Do you take a similar approach at the next level
with the Jets and specifically this offense.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, for sure as he develops his route tree, because
it was a big question mark for him. You know,
how diverse was his route tree? And I think at
the Senior Bowl he showed pretty well. Right, there's a
clip I remember him going one on one with Queen
Ya Mitchell, who to me was the number one quarter
you know, stemmed them outside and beat them inside, and
I was like, Okay, let's growth right there in this
rap development. That's something that the Jets can work on.
(13:06):
But I think for his rookie year, you have a
plan in place for him where you just get him
the ball, similar to what Western Kentucky did and just
let him go.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Man, how unique is it the way he runs after
the catch. I know, hey, listen, I hate putting pro
comps on guys.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I know where you're going. I know where you're going.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
When you hear Deebo Samuel, your ears perk up and you're.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Like, yeah, I think the difference between the two, the
physicalness is definitely Debo I think Debo has a little
bit more acceleration. Al Yeah, but the physicalness and the
way that Debo runs and the way he makes DB's
make business decisions, it's it's on the money to me,
actually reminds me a little bit more of Golden Tate.
I don't think people tend to forget how good Golden
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Tate was and how physical Golden Tate was after he
caught the ball, right, uh, you just go back to
when he h was I think in Detroit and he
played Seattle and he caught that ball on the sideline
and stefan one dude and then flipped in the end
zone to score a touchdown. Like it shows you the
lower body strength that he has. And Malakai Corley is
just like Golden Tate in that manner. And I think
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they'll use him in the same way that you know
the Detroit Lions used him as well, where they use
him a lot of crossing patterns. That way, you get
him on a safety end in one on one in
the open field, and you make that safety make a
decision whether he's really about that life tackling or not.
That's why I think you know this this offense should
do with Malakai Corley.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Let's get to day three. The draft surprise here at
all from your perspective to the Jets go to running backs,
sandwich around a quarterback. We knew the developmental passer was
gonna come at some point day three. And we'll get
to Jordan Travis in the second. But your thoughts on
Allen from Wisconsin isaaed Davis from South Dakota State.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, both big physical backs. I think Braylen Allen if
you look at the twenty twenty two tape, I mean,
he was a monster. EA, Like, I believe he led
the nation in broken tackles and it was like by
a large amount. It wasn't even close. I mean when
you look at him, just look at the physique of him,
it kind of reminds you of King Henry, like honestly.
(15:16):
And it's funny that I said that because they actually,
I believe, work out together in Texas. So he's actually
shifty for a guy his size. Now, he's not the
best pass catcher at all, but he's a guy that's
going to get you those tough yards, and guys just
seemed to bounce off of him, EA like literally, and
then Isaiah Davis. I'm a huge Isaiah Davis fan. I
remember calling his playoff game two years ago out there
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in South Dakota when they played UC Davis. At the time,
they had a running back that was in front of
him called named Pierre Strong, but Isaiah Davis was started
taking carries away from him because he was that special
of a player, ultra productive. He has a Le'Veon bell
running style, real patience behind the line of scrimmage, and
then he explodes through the second level and he's another
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guy that's physical, like he's gonna make you make a
business decision in that secondary. So they got two backs
that are different than what's currently on their roster. Not
that Breesehall can't be a physical back, but when you
look at him and i Isy Abandoned County, you talk
about guys that have the top end speed that can
really take it the distance. These two guys are more physical, right,
They're gonna get you those gritty yards that you need.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
We Breeshall is dangerous and open field. He was hurt
in defensive backs last year. The other thing about Davis
that is quite surprising, and you could add some color
here since you've seen him in person, is that I've
been told the guy is a really good special teams player,
and that was shocked by that because just looking at
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his stats and his numbers, I thought there'd be no
time for him to play.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
No time for special team. But that's that's a really
well run South Dakota State team. Right. They actually had
I believe two Offton Liman, Mason McCormick and Field get
drafted as well. They actually had two receivers that then
go free agents. They're twin brothers and Yankee brothers. So
this is a program that you know, even though it's FCS,
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it's ran like an FBS, right, and guys go there
and developed really well. We talked about Pierre Strong, he
was a high draft pick or a fourth rounder I
believe for the Patriots, then got traded to the Cleveland Browns.
And let's not forget Dallas Goddard was another guy that
was there as well. So they developed players really well,
and they had a corner going the seventh round. So
this is a program that developed got developed, develops guys
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really well, and they understand what it takes to get
to the next level. So a lot of those skill
position players, they're special teams aces on that team, like
some of their best players are their best special teams players.
So that's a program. Again, if you're not fortunate enough
to go FBS and you can get a scholarship and
go to FCS, that's the school you should look at
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because they're gonna get you prepared for the next level.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
The other thing I like about Allen he's twenty years old.
It's the youngest player in the draft class.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He's very young, so a lot of upside there as well.
And one thing he does really well too is protection,
and we know that's a big thing for rookie quarterbacks
coming into the league. You got to be able to
fit it up there and protect to protect the run quarterback,
but you also got to know what you're doing back there.
Ea right when line slides, you got to know if
you got a guy up in the middle, you got
a guy off the edge. You have to know these
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things and that's the big thing for Aaron Rodgers. He's
not going to have a back in the backfield unless
they know what they're doing protection wise. So I think
Brydlon Allen coming in as a guy that's proven at Wisconsin.
He knows the protections. He knows he can stick it
up there, and we know he's a bigger back to EA.
So the physicalness and contact he's not going to shy
away from. He's gonna fit it up with linebackers blitzing
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up the middle. So I think that gives him a
nice edge too. In regards to maybe seeing the field
this year, with.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
All the player acquisitions on the offensive side of the ball,
are you seeing a change of mindset from the Jets?
Not that they were a finets team before on the
offensive side, but I'm just thinking physical talk.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I love what you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I love you when you're talking about John Simpson and
then you try you bring Morgan back here, and you
got Tyron Smith, and then you get for Shadow and
none you come and get Corley, and then you get
these two big, burly backs who were just really good
after contact and they want to just run through you.
And I just think that a mindset change is underway
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in a big, big time way.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I'm so glad you brought that up, BA, because when
you look at this team and you look at the
personnel that's been added, and you look at kind of
how they finished the season. When you go to the
Denver Broncos game, you go to the Patriots game. This
team by nature and then Daniel Hackett and where he
came from. The Little floor Tree is a zone based team.
But they started playing and running more gap scheme. And
(19:51):
if you look at the guys they brought in, John
Simpson was one of the best pulling guards in football
last year. Morgan Moses is one of the best run
blocking tackles in all of football. You talked about the
physical backs they brought in. Braylan Allen is a good
scap gap scheme back. You got a patient running back
in Isaiah Davis who's a physical back as well. Could
we see a philosophy change this year, ea in seat
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of running more zone, running, more gap scheme, where you're
going to get double teams, guardpool, more physical runs. I
think Robert Salaz, a defensive coach, would love that, right
and the personnel kind of measures up to that as well.
So I can't wait to see that. And then you
talk about having a guy like Jeremy Rutger who will
rip your face off in the run game as well.
Like I think this team will play a little bit more.
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They'll still have the split zone in there, obviously, but
I think you're gonna see a little bit more gap
scheme with this team as well.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And Aaron Rodgers is one of the best players in
the history of this game. But he's also an exceptional
play action passer correct and he knows obviously when to
exploit matchups. And you add a were we have a
punishing style running game. You got Rogers, who is so
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gif did as far as looking at the defense and saying,
I know where I have my strengths in the formation here.
And then you get Corey into the mix where hey,
you can get him the ball five six times a game,
and hey, he watch you out defensive backs because he's
coming after you. Garrett Wilson's gonna get more space, you
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like the tight end room. I don't know, man, I'm
excited about what this offense potentially could be.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I think if you just look on paper. We've
stated this before eight being on paper means absolutely nothing, right,
you got to go out there and do it. But
just on paper, this is one of the most complete
rosters in the NFL. And it's not me being a Homer.
I guarantee most people would agree with that as well.
When you talk about a championship type defense that added
the caliber player that Hassan Reddick is like, who was
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in the running for Defensive Player of the Year. Right,
and then you look at Aaron Rodgers potentially coming back.
You add a perennial All Pro tackle and timern Smith
an iron man tackle, and Morgan Moses. You get Olu
for Shannu. Right, you get the yacht King and Malachi Corley.
You got Mike Williams, who was one of the best
contested fifty to fifty jump receivers in the NFL. And
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Garrett Wilson, who is just one of the best all
around young receivers in the game. And let's not forget
Reese Hall is going to make this all come together, right,
He's one of the best pure playmakers in the NFL.
Like again, on paper, it's just one of the most
complete rosters. But again it has to be done on
the field.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Jordan Travis, we knew the Jets were going to go
young quarterback. They go the Florida State Pass or there
in round five. That was a trade up. Joe Douglas
didn't want to wait any longer, so he sends a
pair of picks to the Eagles. What can you say
about his journey and also what do you like about
this acquisition?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, when you look at it, besides Jaden Daniels, EA,
I would say Jordan Travis probably had the best ascension
at quarterback besides Jaden Daniels, and we're talking about growth
from the quarterback position. Was the best in the ACC
last year, which says a lot when you've got a
guy that goes number three overaw In Drake May from
North Carolina. Jordan Travis was the best player in that conference.
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And I don't think anybody could even question that. Like,
we saw what he meant to that Florida State team
and him not being there left them out of the
college football playoffs, right That lets you know how important
he was to that team. Really grow, grew as a passer,
really good touch passer, doesn't have the strongest arms, tough,
competitive guy when he does put his foot in the
ground and run, very dynamic in the open space running
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the football, and he's comfortable throwing on the run. And
I think the biggest thing about him and why this
staff really loves him, he's just competitive. He's really competitive
in regards to like just leaving it all there on
the line to win games. That's what Jordan Travis does.
I asks a lot of them at the line of
scrimmage last year at Florida steps at Florida State in
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regards to techs and getting them in the right place.
So you love that extension in this game as well,
because we see so many times in college football where
you know, these quarterbacks looked to the sideline, and he
did some of that as well, but a lot of
it was on him to make sure people were in
the right positions at Florida State. So again, you're right,
I was. I was probably higher on Michael Pratt for
(24:13):
the Jets, but I could see why they went Jordan
Travis and he guess a great red shirt year to
learn by two consummate pros, and Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, who better to learn from as you grow
and develop as a young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
He actually started his career at Louisville, Like you said,
his ascension at Florida State was really something else. And
Mike Norvell when he went to Florida State kept him
and he became the face of that team. And last
year twenty touchdowns, two interceptions football, that's really good. Decision making,
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did he throw better with anticipation as his career progressed,
and also can you talk about his movement skills. Unfortunately
he went down against North Alabama. You feel so bad
for Florida's State, the program that they couldn't compete for
a national championship, but also the person Jordan Travis and
everything he had been through to get to that point.
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Because Florida State struggled for a while and then Norwalk
comes in and they take all these massive steps and
Jordan Travis is right here and he goes down. He's
not able, but talk about his evolution as a passer
thrown with anticipation, and also can he be a dual
threat on this level as well? Eventually?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I would say going into two years ago, I
would say there was no way he was able to
play quarterback at the next level. That's the type of
extension he's had. Now. He still needs to work on
some of those anticipation throws that you were talking about.
Doesn't throw with great anticipation, but again, he's gotten better
in that aspect, and he's gotten better with his touch throws.
And I talked about him being a touch throw doesn't
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have the biggest arm in the world as far as
downfield throws. But he can make every throw that you
need him to make. And we talked about it, or
you alluded to his playmaking ability, right, I would say
two years ago, first Reely wasn't there. He would take off.
You saw the growth in the pocket this year, and
that's the most important thing for a young quarterback to
sit in there, go through your progressions and then if
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nothing's there, take off where before it was all right,
first reason not there, I'm taking off because this is
what I'm going to rely on my athletic ability. We
really saw him grow in the last two years when
it comes to that and the thing about him, we
talked about him being competitive. There were rumors like when
he first got there and when Norvale first got there,
that he wasn't going to be the guy. Right he
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was in the competition, he was starting, and he wasn't starting.
But you love the attitude did not transfer right to
stick it out, fight through adversity and lay it on
the line for your brothers and your teammates and continue
to grow. I think too many times in today's society, guys,
if they don't get their way, they're willing to just
quit or go somewhere else in the transfer portal. I
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think there's something to be said for Jordan Travis for
sticking it out when he got to Florida, when maybe
Mike Norvel didn't always believe in him in the beginning.
He earned that trust and he earned the trust of
his teammates. And then when you hear people talk about him,
I think I talked to Jermaine about him just glowing reviews.
They love this kid, They love what his makeup is,
they love what he's all about. So I think from
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that standpoint, he fits in perfectly with the just and
what they're trying to build rite the attitude that he
plays with, right, the type of player he is, and
the human being that he is. Right. So he's been tested,
he's been through adversity, he's come out on the other side,
and like I said, he who better to learn from
than Aaron Rodgers and Tyrod Taylor is you're trying to
develop in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, that's a great situation for him. So let's go
to the sixth round quants as stakes. First off, did
you know that you could actually draft Canadian Football League players?
I thought the guy was going to be a free agent.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah. I didn't know that until this year when he
was in the West game and my guy turn out
to my guy, Imrie Hunt, he put me on to him.
He was like yo, he was like, dudes, you got
to watch this kid from the CFL. He was like,
he's different, He's ready. And when I got on that
tape from the East West game, I was like, Oho,
old stick Oh, Quanta Stickers can play some football. I mean,
we'll probably talk about his story in a little bit,
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but just a football player alone. EA, when you can
play in Canada, you can play in the NFL because
you got to understand the fields. Bigger those receivers get
a running start coming at you. So Stickers has proven
he can play and man, he can play off man
and I think, honestly, the Jets might even try him
at safety. EA. I think that, Yeah, where's the transition. Yeah,
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I think on this team that'll be a transition for him.
The thing is, we talked about his EA like, corner
was a sneaky need for this team. So could they
potentially keep him at corner because let's not forget three
of our top four corners are going to be free
agents next year. When you talk about Brandon Neckles, talk
about DJ Reid, you talk about Michael Carter the second
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which hopefully one of those guys get an extension before
the season starts, because you would like to have some
continuity coming back in that unit because it's one of
the best units in all of football.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, Carter's extension eligible after next season too, right, He's
able to get a new.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Deal as well, so decisions are going to have to
be made. So that's why when me and you were talking,
I was like, corner on a low is a sneaky
need for this team. So I could see where they
maybe try him at safety this year and then put
him back at corner, or they cross training where you
know a lot of guys do that where they play
corner and safety, just because you know you only go
into the game with three safety sometimes and somebody goes down,
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somebody got to be able to come in and play.
I think he'll be that guy that's the cross guy
that plays corner in safety for the Jets, just because
he has experienced playing both.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Quanta, you were a guy who was undrafted. You tweeted
about Day three and how much you liked those stories stiggers.
This story's wild.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Man, amazing staging, amazing story. It's like for a guy
who was supposed to go to Land College coming out
his dad unfortunately passed. He wanted to help his mom
out started delivering food as a food service delivery guy.
I believe, Hea, it's either he has thirteen siblings or
he's one of thirteen siblings and wanted to help out
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his mom. But this is how you know, like his family,
his mom is special because she knew what his dream was, right.
She signs him up for fan Control football, which was
a new thing at the time. Yeah, right, just so
he could play football. And he goes out there and
I believe has five and five or six interceptions. Thea
one scout from the CFL gets his tape and they're
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able to see his tape and they sign him. Not
only does he go to Canada, EA, he becomes Rookie
of the Year and has five inners. You talk about
a crazy story and like a story of determination and
not giving up on your dream even though you've been
through so many, so much adversity and obstacles, but to
have the staying power to continue to fight for what
(30:55):
you want, like you root for guys like quantest stickers,
like you're praying that he does well, because most people
would have quit, literally, most people would have quit. They
would have been like, you know, why is this always
happening to me? But that never happened with this kid.
He stayed to it, kept his head down, kept working,
had his family love and support, and look where he's
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at now in the NFL and didn't play college football.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Just to echo your sentiments there, the Jets clearly loved him.
You watch those phone calls on draft weekends throughout the
day Football League so.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Fun teers in my damn eyes.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Jeff Ulbrick gets on the line, he's in tears. He's
a Jets defensive coordinator. Later it's past to to and
to so beloved Tony and the cornerbacks coach here and
Bobby BISTROTI that had a.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Security you know, that's my guy, man. And when Bobby
got on the phone and almost lost it, that's when
I lost it. Yeah, That's when I lost it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Oh, So bring people on the inside, man, you worked there,
you've worked here. What kind of figure is Bobby inside?
This organized? For fans who just watching that clip.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh, Bobby's the guy. If you don't know, Bobby's our
head security guy. Bobby has been putting it down for years.
He was there when he was there before I was
a player. He was there, well I was a player,
he was there as I came in as a broadcaster.
He's my guy, and Bobby means a lot to me.
Me and Bobby have a really good relationship. And for
your security guy and Bobby, I think said he only
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spent like fifteen minutes with him in the meeting when
he came on a visit, and like it was such
an impactful meeting that you rarely see the security guy
get on the phone on draft day when somebody makes calls.
That lets you know what type of guy contest Stickers is.
When Bobby was like, coach, I need to talk to
this kid, Like everybody in that room wanted to talk
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to this kid. That lets you know how special he
truly is. And I'm so glad he's with the Jets
because again, the adversity and things that he went through.
It's a common theme, right, we just talked about Jordan Travis.
Now he didn't go through what Stickers went through, obviously,
but he did injury wise, and he did, you know,
mental wise as far as maybe having some self doubt
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at times when he was in college. The Jets wanted
to get guys that were mentally strong, and I love
that if you can be mentally strong, the physical is nothing. Ea,
like we're all physically gifted. It's the mental that usually
separates where the guys last in the NFL or not.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Full disclosure, Bobby's one of my closest friends. We shared
an office together way back in the Hofstra days.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, so we go always back. I
mean listen, Yeah, that was a great moment. It's a
cool moment. And I also was quite pleased to see
Michael Carter the second was one of the first guys
on social media to say be pumped up about the
move because he trains with stickers. So that's a cool
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connection already.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Right, So let's go to mister irrelevant, mister Key from Alabama.
What what should we know about him? And also how
does he potentially try to make this roster?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, I think Jalen Keys rode to the roster. It's
probably going to be on special team. Now he does
have the opportunities more of the in the box guy.
I think he does have an opportunity to if he
develops really well, ea potentially pushed to be a third
safety on this team. Again, Chuck Clark's coming off of
a major injury. You would think he's going to be
healthy because it happened so early during the training cramp process.
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Ashton Davis comes back. Tony Adams is in that building,
so too, had too and the rest of the staff.
Jeff Auberg, they had glowing reviews about him as well.
So this is a player like again, I think they
even said it on Twitter, like, even though you're the
last pick, you're the most important pick, You're not mystery
irrelevant to us, right, So, like, this is a player
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that you know in past years, mystery relevant has had
a hard time making the you know, besides brock Perty,
usually that last pick in the draft has struggled to
make the team. A lot of times the guy makes
either practice squad or doesn't make the roster. I remember
Grant Stewart from Tampa Bay. He made the team too.
He was a special team's ace for the Bucks that
I think he got traded to the Patriots. If I'm
(35:17):
not mistaken, so like it's it's usually a hard road
for mister Relevant, but I think this kid actually has
a real chance. It's gonna start in special teams though
for him to actually make the team.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Man, a lot of cool stories for the Jets this draft.
I think fans are really going to gravitate towards Malchai Corley,
Jordan Travis in Quantiz Stiggers. I mean, it's just the
backstories of what they had to do to get to
the spot. But all in all, it all starts with
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Olu Fashionu.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
So it does. But before we get out of there, i't'
about to get here, Cya. I want to talk about
some undrafted free agents. Come on, man, you can't have
me in here as an undrafted free agent and think
we're not going to talk about some undrafted free agentcy.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Okay, officially, listen, the podcast is going out before these
guys actually signed. So I got a preface by saying
it looks like the Jets have agreed to terms with
a number of guys. Nothing is official until they signed.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Go ahead, the floors, two guys, two guys, and of
course I'm going to the D line. We'll start with
Leonard Taylor, and then I'll talk about my favorite tign
together Jets after that. Leonard Taylor, guy that a lot
of people had going in like the fourth or fifth round.
His twenty twenty two tape was a lot better. Was
a guy that could give you some of that interior
pass rush. I thought this year he kind of played
(36:37):
out of position. Sometimes they had him over the center,
and he played with high pad level as well, which
I think really hurt him in his development. But for
a guy that a lot of people had maybe going
in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, I had the more
than a sixth round guy. I think that's great value
to get him in as he undrafted free agent. But
my favorite potential, again, like you said, because these signings
haven't become official yet, my favorite potential signing for the
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Jets is Braden McGregor out of Michigan. I mean, the
Justs just lost John Franklin Myers in the trade to
the Denver Broncos. Brandan McGregor has a similar game to
John Franklin Monins. He's a guy that a lot of
people kind of didn't know where he would pinch Lynn
at because he's a big defensive end. He's like two
seventy two seventy five. But he also showed in that
(37:26):
game versus Alabama he can rush inside. He had two
sacks in that game. So that's why I say the
comparison to John Franklin Myers, who who is a one
of probably the best run edge guy we had on
our team. But he also brought that grittiness right. He
was the unsung hero of the defense. He was able
to slide and slide and rush on third down. I
think Braden McGregor gives you some of that as well.
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So honestly, I had him as a fourth round pick,
so I was surprised he didn't get drafted. That's that's
a major for the just to get him.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So we're circling McGregor. You think he's got a real
chance here.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I think he has a chance to make the team. Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You just talked about it, the thoughts on John frank
Lamyer's being sent to Denver, and did you feel this
was inevitable after the Jets acquired his son Reddick.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yes, yeah, I hated it, but I kind of knew.
I actually taught to JF and when it happened, okay,
and you know, I told him, you know, because that's
my guy. If anybody knows, that's my guy. So I
was just like, this is the part of the business
that I hate. Right, We kind of knew that something
was going to happen. This was going to come down
the pike, just because you know, Jermaine had an extension
(38:35):
right pro Bowl player, so you would think he's going
to start. You trade for a son Reddick, He's starting, right.
It's different than like when he played in Philly because
they kind of ran a hybrid three four where the
Jets predominantly run a four to three.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Right, really quickly estimate this from me. I'm cutting you
off here. Reddick played seventy four percent of snaps each
of the last two seasons Philadelphia. You think that probably
goes down a little bit here the way?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
No, you still, yeah, I know the way that Jets play,
but I just know how Hassan Reddick is. He's not
gonna be one that's gonna want to come off the field, okay, right.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So like so with that being said, that even makes
it more clear why je.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
And I think that was part not just the money,
but I think that was part of it as well.
Like a son Reddick is a guy that usually doesn't
miss games or miss snaps, so he's on the field,
like you said, seventy four percent of the time. And
then also you saw the extension, the ascension of Jermaine,
you would think his you know, play time would go
up as well this year as well. So like he
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caught us all the writing on the wall, wish him
nothing but the best. Again, that's my guy, So I
told him, this is the part of the business that
I hate. And I know this coaching staff didn't want
to make that move, but you know, with the cap
and everything else, and then some of the things that
we just stated about how Hassan Redick doesn't come off
the field, you kind of knew this was, I mean,
down the.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Pipe thirty seconds. What's the counter on the edge as
far as now teams are going to try to attack
you without JFM there as far as running football.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Correct, So I mean, Jermaine was already a really good
run stopping defensive end. So I mean and asn Reddick
is under the radar, really good guy steadying me edge
right and forcing the ball back inside. So I think
Michael Clemens is going to have to step up this year. Also,
we took another guy in the first round and Will.
Will's going to have to have a big year as well.
And I think this coaching staff is looking at Jermaine
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and saw how he was able to develop and have
a really good second year. They're hoping that Will does
the same thing this year as well. So I think
Braden McGregor could be a sleeper too in regards to
that as well. He's a guy I think Jet fans
should keep their eye on.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well man, I've had a blast with our draft coverage.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Sure, it's been great.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, I mean you set us up well prior to
the draft and now you're taking us home after draft weekend.
What do you think five years down the line, how
is this class going to be remembered.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I'm stilling Carolina this earlier today. I think when you
look at Olu and my comment for him was a
guy that man on the left side for the Jets
for a long time and never missed any time and
the Brigershoff Ferguson, I think he him alone will make
this a really good draft class, right because I think
he is going to be the Jets left tackle by
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his skill set for the next ten to fifteen years.
I honestly do believe that. I think he's that good, right,
I think he could be that special. So when you
look at this draft class, it's all going to be
about what the first round pick is right now. The
other guys are important as well, and I think Stickers
has a chance to stick around. I think Corley, if
he keeps developing with his ROUNDE running, has a chance
to stick around as well. But it's all going to
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be started with Olu Fashionu and his development at left tackle.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Love it, brother, you have a good day and get
some rust.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Appreciate it. Yeah, h
Welcome to the official Jets podcast, Eric on here at
one Jets Drive, joined by Lejayduza bolt Well, the twenty
twenty four NFL draft came and went you what is
your thirty thousand foot observation of what the Jets did?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Very solid draft, Okaya, A lot of position of needs
were filled, right And I know people will look at
that first pick, and I know we're going to go
pick by pick, but I thought it was a home
run pick, the OLU fashion New pick. Just when you
look at you know where they got him at, where
he can come into a situation where he's learning behind
an all pro and a consummate pro, one being Tyron Smith,
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the other being Morgan Moses. And then let's not also
forget when you look at Morgan Moses's deal, essentially that
equates to a swing tackle deal, kind of like in
the twenty one season when he came to the Jets.
So if Oulu, you know, develops faster than the Jets
think you will, there's a good chance e a that
who's playing a lot sooner than people think.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Hmmm, very interesting. Okay, so let's stick there with the
big Penn State tackle. He has played left on the
left side all the way since high school. What would
the transition be for him as far as lining up
on the right side.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, it's tough. It's literally I've talked to a few
offensive linemen EA, and they say it's like doing everything backwards,
like tying one hand behind your back, because you have to.
Your brain function has to switch everything right from your
plant leg to your kick leg and everything so to
your punch hand. All that is opposite when you switch
from one side to the other. So it's not as
easy as people think. And the thing about it is,
(01:45):
I love Timon Smith, but ea, we've seen a history
of him not being able to complete seventeen game seasons.
So that's that's the tricky thing for this Jets coaching
staff in regards to Olu Fashionu like, when you're developing him,
do you just keep him at left for the future
and just in case Tyers Smith goes down or do
(02:05):
you cross train him that way? He's the swing guy
and he can go in if anybody goes down at
right or left tackle. So that's that's the tidbit that
I cannot wait to find out what the plan is
going to be going forward.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
A lot dude, you could see it going either way, right,
because there are there are arguments on both sides there
that make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, there's an argument that you just want to,
you know, bring him in and just keep him and
plant him at left tackle because we kind of know
what the timer Smith is going to be a one
year thing. You took Olu at pick eleven, so he's
going to be the tackle of the future. Or because
you want to get the best players out on the field,
you cross train him right and in case somebody goes down,
(02:49):
say Morgan Moses goes down, knock on wood, because that's
one thing he usually doesn't do is miss games, right,
he's an iron man. But just in case, you know,
you have him cross trains to go in at right
tackle as well. So that's that's the caveat to this,
this whole puzzle and put and get together for this
coaching staff. Do we just plant him at left tackle
or do we cross train him?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, We're gonna love to see how that actually unfolds.
Aaron Rodgers even mentioned him possibly playing guard. I don't
see that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
What you what do you think about that? Listen?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Aaron Rodgers brilliant dude. I think he was probably just
raving about his athletic ability. I think my take on
that is probably, hey, he's gonna yeah right. Uh, what
about the way the board actually fell before the Jets
went on the clock at ten? Uh, we knew there
(03:40):
was going to be a run on offensive players, and
there certainly was. But what did you think about the
Jets options at ten and also the possibility of moving
off before that?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah? And it's crazy because when we did this mock,
I literally put us in the scenario that happened on
uh you throughout the draft. I made it nice as
hard as possible. I put it where there was going
to be a run on so many offensive players that
the Jets would have to trade up to potentially eight
to get to get Roma Dounze. But in ours I
(04:12):
stayed patent to you know, Troy Fontanu because Rome went
at nine, just like he did in real life. So
I think I would not be surprised if Joe d
actually did reach out to Atlanta. I just think Atlanta
was staying pat I was one of the few people
that heard, you know, and got wind of the rumors
that they could take Michael Pennick Jr. Actually had a
(04:33):
podcast that do for CBS. I stated it on that
Tuesday that do not be surprised that Atlanta Falcons be
a sneaky team to take a quarterback and that quarterback
be Michael Penick Junr. Just because I heard ea that
they flew out in the extensive work on him. I
know a lot of people didn't see that happening, them
taking a quarterback at eight just because they paid Kurt
co Chain's a bowload of money. But that kind of
(04:55):
like threw the draft a little bit into tailspind because
even if Joe D reaches out to Atlanta, I heard
rumors that three other teams were trying to trade in
the top ten to get Michael Pennick Junior. So Atlanta
was never leaving off of eight. So I think Joe
D did what he could, and I love that he
was able to trade back just one spot and pick
up some draft capital. So kudos to him, you know,
(05:15):
for being smart and tactical in that situation and being
able to pick up a few extra pigs by moving
back just one spot.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So credit goes to you because you've got high on
panics throughout the scouting process. You thought people were sleeping
on him, and that comes to fruition on Thursday night,
Round one of the draft, where he goes eight overall
great six six quarterbacks taken in the top twelve selections,
too rich.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I never would have saw that. I would have never
saw that. I'm not even gonna like to Denver. I
had to talk to a few people, and I knew
that Sean Payne and and the Denver Brash were high
on Nicks. I thought it was a scenario where they
would try to trade back and maybe get him at
the end of the first at worse. But I think
there was a scenario where they were kind of pigeonholed
just because of the way the draft fell, and maybe
(06:01):
not too many people wanted to move up. Kind of
surprised some teams didn't try to move up and get
a fatanu. He fell all the way to I believe
what twenty EA, which was a surprise. I did not
see that happening in the draft. So maybe Denver did
make some calls and nobody was willing to move up,
and maybe they just didn't feel comfortable dropping back too
far because they knew the Raiders were there at thirteen
it could they potentially have taken both knicks, so they
(06:24):
ended up getting their quarterback of the future. To me,
little rich like you were saying, I didn't see twelve
quarterback I mean six quarterbacks going in the first twelve picks.
I mean that's literally fifty percent of the draft going
in the first twelve picks was quarterbacks. Like, when does
that ever happen? All right?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
What does it say about the state of the National
Football League that the first fourteen picks in the two
thoy twenty four NFL Draft we're all offensive players And
as a former defense alignment, are you pissed?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Of course I'm pissed. It's disgusting and lets you know it.
Lets you know the thought process of the NFL right now,
right it's the offensive base league. And more so, I
think teams are looking at it as if, yeah, I
don't have a quarterback, I have no chance, right because
I don't think anybody would have penciled six quarterbacks in
the first twelve And you stated it. The first defensive
(07:16):
player was like Atsu Latsu. He didn't go to pick fifteen,
So almost halfway through the draft that was when the
first defensive player came, which is unheard of. I think
the longest and recent memory was like seven picks right
before a defensive player had been taken. So you're talking
about double that before a defensive player was taken. So
(07:37):
I just think it's it shows you the way the
NFL is trending. Offensive base league. The old school, you know,
defensive wins championships, ya is here no more.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But the bottom line is it from a Jets perspective,
it made sense that they were going to offensive player because, yeah,
they have a very good defense. Correct, that might be
elite if a couple things here this year, and on paper,
I think it's a better unit than last year. Bowl.
We'll get to that here in a couple moments. But
(08:06):
we knew all along that, hey, it's either going to
be tackle or receiver. And you weren't surprised at all
that Douglas did not take brock Powers.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Nope, not at all. And I've read some things and
talked to a few people, and I don't even think
it was a consideration for the Jets. Ea, You've heard
me say multiple times, I love this tight end room
the Jets have. We talk about Tyler Conklin, Jeremy Rucker
and I think Joe Douglas spoke to that as well,
and also Robert Sala. They love that tight end room
as well. And you talk about Zach Koons, a developmental
(08:37):
guy that they took in the seventh who has another
year under his belt, you would think the development would
be there also with Kenny Yoboa. But those two top
guys I think are sure fired really good players. When
you talk about Tyler Conklin and Jeremy ruckerds so to me, again,
you can say what you want about Brock Bowers, and
again I like brock Brows as a player. Yeah, well,
positional value is a real thing. You could say he's
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a weapon X and all this, and that he's still
a tight end at the end of the day. And
you know, obviously the Raiders when they got to their pick,
even though they took Michael Mayer last year, they decided,
you know, he was so high on our board, let's
go ahead and grab him. I still thought that was
a little rich, even for him at thirteen. But I
love what the gestat and not getting Rock Bowers, not
to say he's not a good player. I just think
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tackle made a lot more sense for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Is it possible that fashion Neu has a higher ceiling
than Joe Wald too went number five overall to the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He has the highest ceiling in this draft at offensive tackle.
I don't even think it's close. When you talk about
a guy that has the arm length that he has,
the lower body strength that he has, how he's able
to move people off the football. Now, a lot of
people will say in that Ohio State game, he got
beat with some power, but he still didn't give up
a sack in that game. So when you look at it,
at the end of the day, as long as your
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quarterback doesn't get sacked, you did your job as an
offensive tackle. So he's going to get stronger. He's already
got great lower body strengths. I saw he was working
out with Duke out there in Texas and I saw
some of those dead lift in the Lord's an. He's
he's a unit. Now, he's a unit. So he's only
going to get stronger.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Dude, if he's working out at the gym and I
walk in, I'm going to do some cardio.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'll be back to lift waights later.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So Day two, the Jets had to wait a little bit.
Joe Douglas. Uh, not afraid to trade on Draft weekend
six in all four trade downs.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, it's funny, we'll get into Malachi. But I literally
thought on day three, I'm like, are the Jets ever
gonna pick the eight? Like every time we were up,
it was a trade back, trade down, trade back, trade back.
But get it into Corley. This was a guy that
the Jets were extremely high on, right. You know, they
got to see him out there at the Senior Bowl
and you saw the text message that went viral right
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between Joe d and Robert Sala Malachi Coraley no matter what,
right little Draft day homage right there. Respect to that
movie and.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The way Ethan interviewed him on Ethan Greenbergy after the truck.
I saw that and al said he loved the movie
but hated it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Does No GM probably likes that movie, man. No GM
probably likes that movie. When you talk about Melicai Corley
and what he refits in with the Jets, I think
the Jets were high on him than a lot of
other than more than other teams three. There's rumors. There's
rumors that he was number four after the Big Three
on their list, which I could see why when you
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look at the way he plays, it kind of fits
the mantra of all gas no breaks that Robert Salah has.
He is a guy that you just got to get
the ball in space. They call him the yacht king,
right because yards after contact are big for him, or
yards after I say yards after contact. For him it's
yards after contact, but that means yards after catch, but
for Melica it's yards after contact. Because he's a guy
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that's no fair dodging. I mean, this guy put up
two twenty five, twenty seven times. That's what d Lineman
put up, right. So you see the strength in the body.
You see it on film constantly, him just shrugging guys off,
running through guys. He's one of those guys that he's
gonna make defensive backs make business decisions ea. And he's
a guy where you just get the ball to him
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and on screens, on crossing patterns, you know, speed sweeps,
and just let him go. He has a different skill
set than any other receiver in that room. So that's
why I think he fits in really well. He's a
guy that's probably gonna get five to six touches a
game where they just get him the ball in space
and just let him go.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
It's interesting the way he was used at Western Kentucky.
Do you take a similar approach at the next level
with the Jets and specifically this offense.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, for sure as he develops his route tree, because
it was a big question mark for him. You know,
how diverse was his route tree? And I think at
the Senior Bowl he showed pretty well. Right, there's a
clip I remember him going one on one with Queen
Ya Mitchell, who to me was the number one quarter
you know, stemmed them outside and beat them inside, and
I was like, Okay, let's growth right there in this
rap development. That's something that the Jets can work on.
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But I think for his rookie year, you have a
plan in place for him where you just get him
the ball, similar to what Western Kentucky did and just
let him go.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Man, how unique is it the way he runs after
the catch. I know, hey, listen, I hate putting pro
comps on guys.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I know where you're going. I know where you're going.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
When you hear Deebo Samuel, your ears perk up and you're.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Like, yeah, I think the difference between the two, the
physicalness is definitely Debo I think Debo has a little
bit more acceleration. Al Yeah, but the physicalness and the
way that Debo runs and the way he makes DB's
make business decisions, it's it's on the money to me,
actually reminds me a little bit more of Golden Tate.
I don't think people tend to forget how good Golden
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Tate was and how physical Golden Tate was after he
caught the ball, right, uh, you just go back to
when he h was I think in Detroit and he
played Seattle and he caught that ball on the sideline
and stefan one dude and then flipped in the end
zone to score a touchdown. Like it shows you the
lower body strength that he has. And Malakai Corley is
just like Golden Tate in that manner. And I think
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they'll use him in the same way that you know
the Detroit Lions used him as well, where they use
him a lot of crossing patterns. That way, you get
him on a safety end in one on one in
the open field, and you make that safety make a
decision whether he's really about that life tackling or not.
That's why I think you know this this offense should
do with Malakai Corley.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Let's get to day three. The draft surprise here at
all from your perspective to the Jets go to running backs,
sandwich around a quarterback. We knew the developmental passer was
gonna come at some point day three. And we'll get
to Jordan Travis in the second. But your thoughts on
Allen from Wisconsin isaaed Davis from South Dakota State.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, both big physical backs. I think Braylen Allen if
you look at the twenty twenty two tape, I mean,
he was a monster. EA, Like, I believe he led
the nation in broken tackles and it was like by
a large amount. It wasn't even close. I mean when
you look at him, just look at the physique of him,
it kind of reminds you of King Henry, like honestly.
(15:16):
And it's funny that I said that because they actually,
I believe, work out together in Texas. So he's actually
shifty for a guy his size. Now, he's not the
best pass catcher at all, but he's a guy that's
going to get you those tough yards, and guys just
seemed to bounce off of him, EA like literally, and
then Isaiah Davis. I'm a huge Isaiah Davis fan. I
remember calling his playoff game two years ago out there
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in South Dakota when they played UC Davis. At the time,
they had a running back that was in front of
him called named Pierre Strong, but Isaiah Davis was started
taking carries away from him because he was that special
of a player, ultra productive. He has a Le'Veon bell
running style, real patience behind the line of scrimmage, and
then he explodes through the second level and he's another
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guy that's physical, like he's gonna make you make a
business decision in that secondary. So they got two backs
that are different than what's currently on their roster. Not
that Breesehall can't be a physical back, but when you
look at him and i Isy Abandoned County, you talk
about guys that have the top end speed that can
really take it the distance. These two guys are more physical, right,
They're gonna get you those gritty yards that you need.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
We Breeshall is dangerous and open field. He was hurt
in defensive backs last year. The other thing about Davis
that is quite surprising, and you could add some color
here since you've seen him in person, is that I've
been told the guy is a really good special teams player,
and that was shocked by that because just looking at
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his stats and his numbers, I thought there'd be no
time for him to play.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
No time for special team. But that's that's a really
well run South Dakota State team. Right. They actually had
I believe two Offton Liman, Mason McCormick and Field get
drafted as well. They actually had two receivers that then
go free agents. They're twin brothers and Yankee brothers. So
this is a program that you know, even though it's FCS,
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it's ran like an FBS, right, and guys go there
and developed really well. We talked about Pierre Strong, he
was a high draft pick or a fourth rounder I
believe for the Patriots, then got traded to the Cleveland Browns.
And let's not forget Dallas Goddard was another guy that
was there as well. So they developed players really well,
and they had a corner going the seventh round. So
this is a program that developed got developed, develops guys
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really well, and they understand what it takes to get
to the next level. So a lot of those skill
position players, they're special teams aces on that team, like
some of their best players are their best special teams players.
So that's a program. Again, if you're not fortunate enough
to go FBS and you can get a scholarship and
go to FCS, that's the school you should look at
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because they're gonna get you prepared for the next level.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
The other thing I like about Allen he's twenty years old.
It's the youngest player in the draft class.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He's very young, so a lot of upside there as well.
And one thing he does really well too is protection,
and we know that's a big thing for rookie quarterbacks
coming into the league. You got to be able to
fit it up there and protect to protect the run quarterback,
but you also got to know what you're doing back there.
Ea right when line slides, you got to know if
you got a guy up in the middle, you got
a guy off the edge. You have to know these
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things and that's the big thing for Aaron Rodgers. He's
not going to have a back in the backfield unless
they know what they're doing protection wise. So I think
Brydlon Allen coming in as a guy that's proven at Wisconsin.
He knows the protections. He knows he can stick it
up there, and we know he's a bigger back to EA.
So the physicalness and contact he's not going to shy
away from. He's gonna fit it up with linebackers blitzing
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up the middle. So I think that gives him a
nice edge too. In regards to maybe seeing the field
this year, with.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
All the player acquisitions on the offensive side of the ball,
are you seeing a change of mindset from the Jets?
Not that they were a finets team before on the
offensive side, but I'm just thinking physical talk.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I love what you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I love you when you're talking about John Simpson and
then you try you bring Morgan back here, and you
got Tyron Smith, and then you get for Shadow and
none you come and get Corley, and then you get
these two big, burly backs who were just really good
after contact and they want to just run through you.
And I just think that a mindset change is underway
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in a big, big time way.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I'm so glad you brought that up, BA, because when
you look at this team and you look at the
personnel that's been added, and you look at kind of
how they finished the season. When you go to the
Denver Broncos game, you go to the Patriots game. This
team by nature and then Daniel Hackett and where he
came from. The Little floor Tree is a zone based team.
But they started playing and running more gap scheme. And
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if you look at the guys they brought in, John
Simpson was one of the best pulling guards in football
last year. Morgan Moses is one of the best run
blocking tackles in all of football. You talked about the
physical backs they brought in. Braylan Allen is a good
scap gap scheme back. You got a patient running back
in Isaiah Davis who's a physical back as well. Could
we see a philosophy change this year, ea in seat
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of running more zone, running, more gap scheme, where you're
going to get double teams, guardpool, more physical runs. I
think Robert Salaz, a defensive coach, would love that, right
and the personnel kind of measures up to that as well.
So I can't wait to see that. And then you
talk about having a guy like Jeremy Rutger who will
rip your face off in the run game as well.
Like I think this team will play a little bit more.
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They'll still have the split zone in there, obviously, but
I think you're gonna see a little bit more gap
scheme with this team as well.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And Aaron Rodgers is one of the best players in
the history of this game. But he's also an exceptional
play action passer correct and he knows obviously when to
exploit matchups. And you add a were we have a
punishing style running game. You got Rogers, who is so
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gif did as far as looking at the defense and saying,
I know where I have my strengths in the formation here.
And then you get Corey into the mix where hey,
you can get him the ball five six times a game,
and hey, he watch you out defensive backs because he's
coming after you. Garrett Wilson's gonna get more space, you
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like the tight end room. I don't know, man, I'm
excited about what this offense potentially could be.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I think if you just look on paper. We've
stated this before eight being on paper means absolutely nothing, right,
you got to go out there and do it. But
just on paper, this is one of the most complete
rosters in the NFL. And it's not me being a Homer.
I guarantee most people would agree with that as well.
When you talk about a championship type defense that added
the caliber player that Hassan Reddick is like, who was
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in the running for Defensive Player of the Year. Right,
and then you look at Aaron Rodgers potentially coming back.
You add a perennial All Pro tackle and timern Smith
an iron man tackle, and Morgan Moses. You get Olu
for Shannu. Right, you get the yacht King and Malachi Corley.
You got Mike Williams, who was one of the best
contested fifty to fifty jump receivers in the NFL. And
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Garrett Wilson, who is just one of the best all
around young receivers in the game. And let's not forget
Reese Hall is going to make this all come together, right,
He's one of the best pure playmakers in the NFL.
Like again, on paper, it's just one of the most
complete rosters. But again it has to be done on
the field.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Jordan Travis, we knew the Jets were going to go
young quarterback. They go the Florida State Pass or there
in round five. That was a trade up. Joe Douglas
didn't want to wait any longer, so he sends a
pair of picks to the Eagles. What can you say
about his journey and also what do you like about
this acquisition?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, when you look at it, besides Jaden Daniels, EA,
I would say Jordan Travis probably had the best ascension
at quarterback besides Jaden Daniels, and we're talking about growth
from the quarterback position. Was the best in the ACC
last year, which says a lot when you've got a
guy that goes number three overaw In Drake May from
North Carolina. Jordan Travis was the best player in that conference.
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And I don't think anybody could even question that. Like,
we saw what he meant to that Florida State team
and him not being there left them out of the
college football playoffs, right That lets you know how important
he was to that team. Really grow, grew as a passer,
really good touch passer, doesn't have the strongest arms, tough,
competitive guy when he does put his foot in the
ground and run, very dynamic in the open space running
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the football, and he's comfortable throwing on the run. And
I think the biggest thing about him and why this
staff really loves him, he's just competitive. He's really competitive
in regards to like just leaving it all there on
the line to win games. That's what Jordan Travis does.
I asks a lot of them at the line of
scrimmage last year at Florida steps at Florida State in
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regards to techs and getting them in the right place.
So you love that extension in this game as well,
because we see so many times in college football where
you know, these quarterbacks looked to the sideline, and he
did some of that as well, but a lot of
it was on him to make sure people were in
the right positions at Florida State. So again, you're right,
I was. I was probably higher on Michael Pratt for
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the Jets, but I could see why they went Jordan
Travis and he guess a great red shirt year to
learn by two consummate pros, and Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, who better to learn from as you grow
and develop as a young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
He actually started his career at Louisville, Like you said,
his ascension at Florida State was really something else. And
Mike Norvell when he went to Florida State kept him
and he became the face of that team. And last
year twenty touchdowns, two interceptions football, that's really good. Decision making,
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did he throw better with anticipation as his career progressed,
and also can you talk about his movement skills. Unfortunately
he went down against North Alabama. You feel so bad
for Florida's State, the program that they couldn't compete for
a national championship, but also the person Jordan Travis and
everything he had been through to get to that point.
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Because Florida State struggled for a while and then Norwalk
comes in and they take all these massive steps and
Jordan Travis is right here and he goes down. He's
not able, but talk about his evolution as a passer
thrown with anticipation, and also can he be a dual
threat on this level as well? Eventually?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I would say going into two years ago, I
would say there was no way he was able to
play quarterback at the next level. That's the type of
extension he's had. Now. He still needs to work on
some of those anticipation throws that you were talking about.
Doesn't throw with great anticipation, but again, he's gotten better
in that aspect, and he's gotten better with his touch throws.
And I talked about him being a touch throw doesn't
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have the biggest arm in the world as far as
downfield throws. But he can make every throw that you
need him to make. And we talked about it, or
you alluded to his playmaking ability, right, I would say
two years ago, first Reely wasn't there. He would take off.
You saw the growth in the pocket this year, and
that's the most important thing for a young quarterback to
sit in there, go through your progressions and then if
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nothing's there, take off where before it was all right,
first reason not there, I'm taking off because this is
what I'm going to rely on my athletic ability. We
really saw him grow in the last two years when
it comes to that and the thing about him, we
talked about him being competitive. There were rumors like when
he first got there and when Norvale first got there,
that he wasn't going to be the guy. Right he
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was in the competition, he was starting, and he wasn't starting.
But you love the attitude did not transfer right to
stick it out, fight through adversity and lay it on
the line for your brothers and your teammates and continue
to grow. I think too many times in today's society, guys,
if they don't get their way, they're willing to just
quit or go somewhere else in the transfer portal. I
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think there's something to be said for Jordan Travis for
sticking it out when he got to Florida, when maybe
Mike Norvel didn't always believe in him in the beginning.
He earned that trust and he earned the trust of
his teammates. And then when you hear people talk about him,
I think I talked to Jermaine about him just glowing reviews.
They love this kid, They love what his makeup is,
they love what he's all about. So I think from
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that standpoint, he fits in perfectly with the just and
what they're trying to build rite the attitude that he
plays with, right, the type of player he is, and
the human being that he is. Right. So he's been tested,
he's been through adversity, he's come out on the other side,
and like I said, he who better to learn from
than Aaron Rodgers and Tyrod Taylor is you're trying to
develop in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, that's a great situation for him. So let's go
to the sixth round quants as stakes. First off, did
you know that you could actually draft Canadian Football League players?
I thought the guy was going to be a free agent.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah. I didn't know that until this year when he
was in the West game and my guy turn out
to my guy, Imrie Hunt, he put me on to him.
He was like yo, he was like, dudes, you got
to watch this kid from the CFL. He was like,
he's different, He's ready. And when I got on that
tape from the East West game, I was like, Oho,
old stick Oh, Quanta Stickers can play some football. I mean,
we'll probably talk about his story in a little bit,
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but just a football player alone. EA, when you can
play in Canada, you can play in the NFL because
you got to understand the fields. Bigger those receivers get
a running start coming at you. So Stickers has proven
he can play and man, he can play off man
and I think, honestly, the Jets might even try him
at safety. EA. I think that, Yeah, where's the transition. Yeah,
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I think on this team that'll be a transition for him.
The thing is, we talked about his EA like, corner
was a sneaky need for this team. So could they
potentially keep him at corner because let's not forget three
of our top four corners are going to be free
agents next year. When you talk about Brandon Neckles, talk
about DJ Reid, you talk about Michael Carter the second
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which hopefully one of those guys get an extension before
the season starts, because you would like to have some
continuity coming back in that unit because it's one of
the best units in all of football.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, Carter's extension eligible after next season too, right, He's
able to get a new.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Deal as well, so decisions are going to have to
be made. So that's why when me and you were talking,
I was like, corner on a low is a sneaky
need for this team. So I could see where they
maybe try him at safety this year and then put
him back at corner, or they cross training where you
know a lot of guys do that where they play
corner and safety, just because you know you only go
into the game with three safety sometimes and somebody goes down,
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somebody got to be able to come in and play.
I think he'll be that guy that's the cross guy
that plays corner in safety for the Jets, just because
he has experienced playing both.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Quanta, you were a guy who was undrafted. You tweeted
about Day three and how much you liked those stories stiggers.
This story's wild.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Man, amazing staging, amazing story. It's like for a guy
who was supposed to go to Land College coming out
his dad unfortunately passed. He wanted to help his mom
out started delivering food as a food service delivery guy.
I believe, Hea, it's either he has thirteen siblings or
he's one of thirteen siblings and wanted to help out
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his mom. But this is how you know, like his family,
his mom is special because she knew what his dream was, right.
She signs him up for fan Control football, which was
a new thing at the time. Yeah, right, just so
he could play football. And he goes out there and
I believe has five and five or six interceptions. Thea
one scout from the CFL gets his tape and they're
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able to see his tape and they sign him. Not
only does he go to Canada, EA, he becomes Rookie
of the Year and has five inners. You talk about
a crazy story and like a story of determination and
not giving up on your dream even though you've been
through so many, so much adversity and obstacles, but to
have the staying power to continue to fight for what
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you want, like you root for guys like quantest stickers,
like you're praying that he does well, because most people
would have quit, literally, most people would have quit. They
would have been like, you know, why is this always
happening to me? But that never happened with this kid.
He stayed to it, kept his head down, kept working,
had his family love and support, and look where he's
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at now in the NFL and didn't play college football.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Just to echo your sentiments there, the Jets clearly loved him.
You watch those phone calls on draft weekends throughout the
day Football League so.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Fun teers in my damn eyes.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Jeff Ulbrick gets on the line, he's in tears. He's
a Jets defensive coordinator. Later it's past to to and
to so beloved Tony and the cornerbacks coach here and
Bobby BISTROTI that had a.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Security you know, that's my guy, man. And when Bobby
got on the phone and almost lost it, that's when
I lost it. Yeah, That's when I lost it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Oh, So bring people on the inside, man, you worked there,
you've worked here. What kind of figure is Bobby inside?
This organized? For fans who just watching that clip.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh, Bobby's the guy. If you don't know, Bobby's our
head security guy. Bobby has been putting it down for years.
He was there when he was there before I was
a player. He was there, well I was a player,
he was there as I came in as a broadcaster.
He's my guy, and Bobby means a lot to me.
Me and Bobby have a really good relationship. And for
your security guy and Bobby, I think said he only
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spent like fifteen minutes with him in the meeting when
he came on a visit, and like it was such
an impactful meeting that you rarely see the security guy
get on the phone on draft day when somebody makes calls.
That lets you know what type of guy contest Stickers is.
When Bobby was like, coach, I need to talk to
this kid, Like everybody in that room wanted to talk
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to this kid. That lets you know how special he
truly is. And I'm so glad he's with the Jets
because again, the adversity and things that he went through.
It's a common theme, right, we just talked about Jordan Travis.
Now he didn't go through what Stickers went through, obviously,
but he did injury wise, and he did, you know,
mental wise as far as maybe having some self doubt
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at times when he was in college. The Jets wanted
to get guys that were mentally strong, and I love
that if you can be mentally strong, the physical is nothing. Ea,
like we're all physically gifted. It's the mental that usually
separates where the guys last in the NFL or not.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Full disclosure, Bobby's one of my closest friends. We shared
an office together way back in the Hofstra days.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, so we go always back. I
mean listen, Yeah, that was a great moment. It's a
cool moment. And I also was quite pleased to see
Michael Carter the second was one of the first guys
on social media to say be pumped up about the
move because he trains with stickers. So that's a cool
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connection already.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Right, So let's go to mister irrelevant, mister Key from Alabama.
What what should we know about him? And also how
does he potentially try to make this roster?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, I think Jalen Keys rode to the roster. It's
probably going to be on special team. Now he does
have the opportunities more of the in the box guy.
I think he does have an opportunity to if he
develops really well, ea potentially pushed to be a third
safety on this team. Again, Chuck Clark's coming off of
a major injury. You would think he's going to be
healthy because it happened so early during the training cramp process.
(34:33):
Ashton Davis comes back. Tony Adams is in that building,
so too, had too and the rest of the staff.
Jeff Auberg, they had glowing reviews about him as well.
So this is a player like again, I think they
even said it on Twitter, like, even though you're the
last pick, you're the most important pick, You're not mystery
irrelevant to us, right, So, like, this is a player
(34:55):
that you know in past years, mystery relevant has had
a hard time making the you know, besides brock Perty,
usually that last pick in the draft has struggled to
make the team. A lot of times the guy makes
either practice squad or doesn't make the roster. I remember
Grant Stewart from Tampa Bay. He made the team too.
He was a special team's ace for the Bucks that
I think he got traded to the Patriots. If I'm
(35:17):
not mistaken, so like it's it's usually a hard road
for mister Relevant, but I think this kid actually has
a real chance. It's gonna start in special teams though
for him to actually make the team.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Man, a lot of cool stories for the Jets this draft.
I think fans are really going to gravitate towards Malchai Corley,
Jordan Travis in Quantiz Stiggers. I mean, it's just the
backstories of what they had to do to get to
the spot. But all in all, it all starts with
(35:47):
Olu Fashionu.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
So it does. But before we get out of there, i't'
about to get here, Cya. I want to talk about
some undrafted free agents. Come on, man, you can't have
me in here as an undrafted free agent and think
we're not going to talk about some undrafted free agentcy.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Okay, officially, listen, the podcast is going out before these
guys actually signed. So I got a preface by saying
it looks like the Jets have agreed to terms with
a number of guys. Nothing is official until they signed.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Go ahead, the floors, two guys, two guys, and of
course I'm going to the D line. We'll start with
Leonard Taylor, and then I'll talk about my favorite tign
together Jets after that. Leonard Taylor, guy that a lot
of people had going in like the fourth or fifth round.
His twenty twenty two tape was a lot better. Was
a guy that could give you some of that interior
pass rush. I thought this year he kind of played
(36:37):
out of position. Sometimes they had him over the center,
and he played with high pad level as well, which
I think really hurt him in his development. But for
a guy that a lot of people had maybe going
in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, I had the more
than a sixth round guy. I think that's great value
to get him in as he undrafted free agent. But
my favorite potential, again, like you said, because these signings
haven't become official yet, my favorite potential signing for the
(37:02):
Jets is Braden McGregor out of Michigan. I mean, the
Justs just lost John Franklin Myers in the trade to
the Denver Broncos. Brandan McGregor has a similar game to
John Franklin Monins. He's a guy that a lot of
people kind of didn't know where he would pinch Lynn
at because he's a big defensive end. He's like two
seventy two seventy five. But he also showed in that
(37:26):
game versus Alabama he can rush inside. He had two
sacks in that game. So that's why I say the
comparison to John Franklin Myers, who who is a one
of probably the best run edge guy we had on
our team. But he also brought that grittiness right. He
was the unsung hero of the defense. He was able
to slide and slide and rush on third down. I
think Braden McGregor gives you some of that as well.
(37:48):
So honestly, I had him as a fourth round pick,
so I was surprised he didn't get drafted. That's that's
a major for the just to get him.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So we're circling McGregor. You think he's got a real
chance here.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I think he has a chance to make the team. Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You just talked about it, the thoughts on John frank
Lamyer's being sent to Denver, and did you feel this
was inevitable after the Jets acquired his son Reddick.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yes, yeah, I hated it, but I kind of knew.
I actually taught to JF and when it happened, okay,
and you know, I told him, you know, because that's
my guy. If anybody knows, that's my guy. So I
was just like, this is the part of the business
that I hate. Right, We kind of knew that something
was going to happen. This was going to come down
the pike, just because you know, Jermaine had an extension
(38:35):
right pro Bowl player, so you would think he's going
to start. You trade for a son Reddick, He's starting, right.
It's different than like when he played in Philly because
they kind of ran a hybrid three four where the
Jets predominantly run a four to three.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Right, really quickly estimate this from me. I'm cutting you
off here. Reddick played seventy four percent of snaps each
of the last two seasons Philadelphia. You think that probably
goes down a little bit here the way?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
No, you still, yeah, I know the way that Jets play,
but I just know how Hassan Reddick is. He's not
gonna be one that's gonna want to come off the field, okay, right.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So like so with that being said, that even makes
it more clear why je.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
And I think that was part not just the money,
but I think that was part of it as well.
Like a son Reddick is a guy that usually doesn't
miss games or miss snaps, so he's on the field,
like you said, seventy four percent of the time. And
then also you saw the extension, the ascension of Jermaine,
you would think his you know, play time would go
up as well this year as well. So like he
(39:41):
caught us all the writing on the wall, wish him
nothing but the best. Again, that's my guy, So I
told him, this is the part of the business that
I hate. And I know this coaching staff didn't want
to make that move, but you know, with the cap
and everything else, and then some of the things that
we just stated about how Hassan Redick doesn't come off
the field, you kind of knew this was, I mean,
down the.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Pipe thirty seconds. What's the counter on the edge as
far as now teams are going to try to attack
you without JFM there as far as running football.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Correct, So I mean, Jermaine was already a really good
run stopping defensive end. So I mean and asn Reddick
is under the radar, really good guy steadying me edge
right and forcing the ball back inside. So I think
Michael Clemens is going to have to step up this year. Also,
we took another guy in the first round and Will.
Will's going to have to have a big year as well.
And I think this coaching staff is looking at Jermaine
(40:32):
and saw how he was able to develop and have
a really good second year. They're hoping that Will does
the same thing this year as well. So I think
Braden McGregor could be a sleeper too in regards to
that as well. He's a guy I think Jet fans
should keep their eye on.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well man, I've had a blast with our draft coverage.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Sure, it's been great.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, I mean you set us up well prior to
the draft and now you're taking us home after draft weekend.
What do you think five years down the line, how
is this class going to be remembered.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I'm stilling Carolina this earlier today. I think when you
look at Olu and my comment for him was a
guy that man on the left side for the Jets
for a long time and never missed any time and
the Brigershoff Ferguson, I think he him alone will make
this a really good draft class, right because I think
he is going to be the Jets left tackle by
(41:31):
his skill set for the next ten to fifteen years.
I honestly do believe that. I think he's that good, right,
I think he could be that special. So when you
look at this draft class, it's all going to be
about what the first round pick is right now. The
other guys are important as well, and I think Stickers
has a chance to stick around. I think Corley, if
he keeps developing with his ROUNDE running, has a chance
to stick around as well. But it's all going to
(41:52):
be started with Olu Fashionu and his development at left tackle.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Love it, brother, you have a good day and get
some rust.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Appreciate it. Yeah, h
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