May 19, 2023 • 35 mins
H+C discuss ageism and overcoming a new generation saying you're past your prime.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born
and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and
I'm a body positive advocate.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm Carolina Bermudez Soy Nikara WinCE but I was born
and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama, and
a worker bee.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is life in Spanglish Buenos dias, Carolina.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, baby, it's always a great day whenever I'm with you.
So thank you, thank you for joining me today. By
the way, I will say this, I got a listener DM,
one of our listeners said that she totally appreciates what
we're doing. I'm actually gonna look for the DM right
now because I said to her, I was like, are
you kidding me? Like you are the reason why we
do this, Alejandra. She said that she just wanted to
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stop by to say how amazing the podcasts have been
that she had finally had a chance to catch up.
And that's like, honestly, your feedback, just your little comments
here and there, when you guys hit that subscribe button,
that is everything to us. Because seriously, we want to
connect and we feel like we're doing that with you.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Thank you for taking the time, Alexandra to send some
love our way. I wanted to tell you, honey. So
that was like my my contribution for today.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You're gonna have to contribute a whole lot more than that, Carolina,
but I'll take it out.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, what are we doing today, Karlena?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was dying to connect with you because we've touched
on so many different topics in the past few years.
I'm not gonna tell you what it is yet, but okay,
and right. This man has been around for decades. When
I was a young girl, he took the reggaeton industry
by storm.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
He went away.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
We haven't seen him in a long time. I hear
he's had some difficulties in life. But just like a
couple of weeks ago, he's back. I'm like, Wow, Dago,
he's back. He's back with new music. He's back with
a new video. And then as I'm looking through the comments,
people are like, oh he looks horrible. Oh he looks
so old. Oh look at the gray hair. He says.
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Sign on. I'm like, what am I reading right now?
Do you guys not understand who this man is? And
right away I was like agism, Oh, boy. Yeah, it's
a form of discrimination against not just older people, but
even young people are experiencing now. But it just put
me in a weird space because I'm like, do you
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not understand who this man is? He is an icon,
he is a legend, he is making a comeback. But
I kept seeing people talking about his looks, talking about
his age. Mind you, Carolina, the man's voice is impeccable,
livery crazy, and people are focusing on gray hairs, Like
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what has this world really come to when it comes
to people age and just you know, just putting our
talents to the side and focusing on if you had
a couple of birthdays.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh, why do you have to drop that load right now?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Because I'm telling you this is something that we absolutely
need to discuss and something that you mentioned which I
want to touch on quickly. This isn't agism just for
older people too, which is so interesting because we're finding
agism and things that are affecting younger people even on TikTok,
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social media influencers, people in our industry, in the radio
industry and the television industry.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So okay, let's chop it up. First of all, I
would say about de he is what some people would say.
And this is just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I would say he's reached like godfather status, right or
the right like the reggaeton community. You gotta acknowledge and
give the legends their flowers. And that's what this guy is, Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Let's just put that out there. That's how I feel
about him.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So you want to minimize this person who is trying
to do first of all, what they love, what their
passion about, what they were made to do, and you
want to stop them from going after it because they're
a little bit older now they got like you said,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean, like, what what is going on here?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Just because Raw is here, just because Benito is here,
just because Maluma is here, that does not mean that
e La Vayalde doesn't have room to exist too.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, I agree with that, but you know what, here's
the thing. It's interesting that this is happening to a man.
We typically see this with women, especially in the artistic industries,
you know, models, if you're in the modeling industry, which
by the way, neither of us are. But I will
tell you know, I know there are limits. Basically if
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you are twenty six, twenty eight, you can pretty much
kiss your career goodbye.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
You know, I think, like previously, like that's what was thought.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Now we're seeing you know, Elon Musk's mother, Oh a resurgence,
it writes, and she, I believe, is in her seventies,
which is just so crazy. And I applaud that, and
I think that that's exactly what we should be doing.
We should be allowing each other to have these different
phases of our lives, you know what I mean, Like
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there's a season for everything, there's a reason for everything.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But this is infuriating to me.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Age discrimination is real, Carolina. It's like we see it
every day, don't know thea It's just it's a natural
course of life. It's gonna happen. While I was so
against it. I remember when it was a good fortune
to live a long life. I suppose to now in
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some industries, Carlina, you know, I had someone come up
to me that I work with and she was like,
I feel like I'm getting old and I feel like
people are cracking jokes about me. I said, how old
are you? She said, I turned thirty already.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay, now this should not be. When I first started
in radio, I was a baby. I think I was
twenty five years old, right, Oh, yeah, because I'm turning
forty five. I have always been so. Back when I
started in radio, which was, you know, two thousand and three,
I think was when I first started, I was told
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by someone in the industry, a fellow woman, that I
should never tell anybody my age. And I said, why,
because I truly believe like you do, honey, like every
day is a blessing. Like what you should celebrate your birthdays,
You should celebrate every day, right, that whole mentality. She
said no, because as you get older, you want to
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remain that young, youthful voice, especially in top forty radio,
which is where I worked, you know, with zero one
hundred and why one hundred. And I said, but I
mean people can like look it up. I mean, it's
not a secret when I was born. And she said,
I would just suggest to you that you don't give
anybody your age. She's like, I'm I'm telling you it's
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gonna work out better for you in your future. And
I do appreciate that she was actually trying to give
me one small nugget of advice, because truly, no women
looked out for me when I was coming up in
this industry, like I really did.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Not have a woman mentor.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But I did the opposite, and I embraced my age
and I told everybody from the time that I started,
because I was just like, that's not me, that's not
who I am.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And then I stayed.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Fighting your age at twenty five, like how crazy would
that be?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right? And also like, what am I going to do?
Tell people I'm eighteen nineteen, Like that's not even believable
because I went to college, Like that's what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I was just like, I live my life in truth,
or I try to. And I said, nah, that's not
for me. I don't care, so what like then fine,
if my time is up, then my time is going
to be up. But at least I'm being honest and honey,
when I tell you that, there are so many women
who have reached out to me and they say, girl,
like you are doing it, like you're so honest, you're
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forty five. I am forty five and a mother in
this industry, I only want people to know the truth
about me, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, no,
I don't want to have to keep up with a lie.
I'm bad at math, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Like I would tell this person I was. But even
even with Latina's, it's always been a thing this is
with that, Like it's just always been like a secretive
type of thing that people have been ashamed of. But
now it's just taking a different turn, Carolina, maybe because
it's on social media. Like I was reading an article
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Bbi Rexa she's talking about she was told that she's
too old to be sexy. Meanwhile, she's what thirty years old?
Thirty four years old? Okay, Like who dictates how old you?
When do you stop being quote unquote sexy?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Okay, First of all, have you seen Bbi rex lately?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I know, oh it's twenty twenty three and we are
not judging and their bodies and their faces, but girl,
she looks freaking amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
She's got that body, YadA YadA. I love it. She's
owning it. And it's like, you're going to.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Tell Bbi Rexa that, in my opinion, this is just
the beginning of your prime. Right, you know you're thirty
years old. You're going to tell her that she needs
to stop and not be sexy. And you know what,
the same thing this actually brings up. Another point is
said to a lot of mothers, Oh, when you.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Have a kid, you can't be putting. You can't be
doing this, you can't be How do you know how
I feel?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
If I want to be sexy on a Wednesday and
feel that way about myself and put up some pictures.
Now I don't because I'm too self conscious and I'm
not there mentally. But if other mothers want to do that,
that's on them. You know what I'm saying, Like, who
is anybody else to tell us when we should stop
being Anything?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That I never understood is like, Okay, I had a kid,
so now can no longer have sex appeal? I can
no longer you know how you think I got that
kid exactly being a little hot ass? But Nah, the
thing with they all got me thinking, and I was like,
it's crazy how some people want others to cease to
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exist if they don't have a certain age that they
want them Like even in even in radio, I've I've
heard younger people. You know, I've mentored a lot of
younger people I've had about.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You have You're an incredible mentor you really that I'm
sorry I do.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I have to give you credit.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You spend so much time bringing people up, and I
mean this sincerely. I have watched, Honey, I see you
in the hallways. I see what you do with the
people who come to the digital team, and that show
potential and problem.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I likes my kids like I love them. And I've
had about thirty probably different interns that I've mentored, Toad
worked with and Krolina. I've heard some of them say, oh, well,
it's time for a newer generation, Like, oh, well, you know,
enough is enough. You know certain people need to go home,
And I'm like, absolutely not. You think somebody who's been
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working twenty years is just going to go home because
a seventeen and an eighteen year old says they need
to go home and die. No, absolutely no, And that's
agism right there. Oh well, that's enough for them, go home.
Let other people have a turn.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Why Okay, wait, you know what, I want to dive
into this a little bit more, and we're going to
discuss the radio industry. But also I want to bring
up a point that really applies to everybody, and we'll
do it right after this. So, Honey, you need to
tell me that some of these young tenders that are
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coming in fresh out of school are saying that the
legends in radio need to wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yes, I've heard it. I have probably like ten different
people in my that I've seen come in as a
young intern or young employee and look around the room
and look around different radio stations and be like, this
person needs to go. That person, we've had enough of them.
This person overstated there welcome. Oh no, and we need
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a new XYZ. Their time is up. And I'm like,
absolutely not. You think I'm gonna work this hard to
then leave when an intern.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Comes Well, no, wait, do you think let me ask
you this. Do you think it's immaturity on their part
or because I that might be it. Because I feel
like there's two things happening here. Number one, I think
that there is an inflated sense of ego. If you
really think that you can sit in a chair or
somebody Yeah, no, I know. And I'm not saying that
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to be you know, like not in a derogatory way
or me.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, but I'm saying, if it took this person ten, fifteen,
twenty years to get to this chair or this position
or this title, what makes you think that you in
your last semester of college can fill their shoes.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Right, I think that that's so.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I feel like there might be a little bit of
you know, immaturity, inflated sense of ego, and perhaps maybe
they don't have the scope or their view of the
world like that's been established yet.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Do you understand what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Because it's like I'm a realist, Okay, I can tell
you right now that there is no way that I
would ever be able to sit in a chair where
I am now when I was twenty five. Even so
I think that that might have something to do with it. Now,
I will say in our industry, radio has been kind
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to older men. Radio is not kind to older females.
So the older females who have made it to this
stage of their career where they're celebrating twenty thirty, I
don't know many people who have been celebrating forty years
in radio that are women. So I think that you know,
you look in Boston, there was a guy who just
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retired in his seventies. You know, you can look anywhere
across the country. He was at a top forty station
in his seventies. Now, for those of you guys who
don't know, let me give you a little back. You know,
history here Top forty radio is typically you know, skewed
to females eighteen to thirty four years old. So you
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need to tell me that a seventy year old man, okay,
that had has been doing this for years and years
and years, has the capability to stay in that chair,
But you won't afford that to a woman.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think the times do need to change, okay, but I.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Also think that we need to allow people to have
the freedom and the ability to use their skills until
they say their time is up.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Thank you, Carolina. Nobody wanted Frank Sinatra to stop singing this.
I feel like this man used his voice, which was
his talent. It was you know, it was his looks
at one point, but overall, Frank Sinatra's voice was what
carried him through life. Like, who are we to say, oh,
Frank Sinatra's fifty go home. We don't want to hear
you anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Absolutely not, babe, babe, I'm gonna give you one more.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go one further than you.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Okay, blow my mind. Go ahead, Tony freaking Bennett, Oh
my god, Tony Bennett.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, So now you want to talk about Frank Sinatra.
Tony Bennett is ninety six years old and is creating
art with Lady Gaga and Ed Sharon or did you
oh know Ed Shearon? I'm not sure if Ed Sharon
did something with him, who was it? I'm thinking Ed
Sharon did something with Andrea Bachelli. Sorry my bad, but no,
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you know, I mean Tony Bennett is still creating with
artists that are contemporary artists. And you mean to tell
me somebody's gonna go to Tony Bennett and be like, hey, bro,
time to wrap it. No, he's a legend. He's gonna
do what he does.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I love this. Let's talk Dolly Parton, Carolina.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh no, you can't do this to me.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, honey, we can't talk about Dolly Parton because you
don't know the love, the deep, deep love that I
have in my soul for Dolly Parton. Then you guys
have no idea how much I care about this woman.
I feel like she's a national treasure. I want to
bubble wrap her. I don't want anybody to even look
at her the wrong way. No, my Dolly is a jem.
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But go ahead, honey, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You know I was reading I was reading up on
agism in all different areas, and I stumble the current
across this quote that Dolly Parton said. You know, she said,
after you reach a certain age, they think you're over. Well,
I will never be over. I will be making records
if I have to sell them out of the trunk
of my car. I've done that in the past, and
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I'll do it again. She's like, hell no, I'm seventy
something years old, and I ain't gonna stop singing because
you say so.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I love that so much. And here's another thing. Look
at Dolly. She is creating new music with her god
daughter Miley Cyrus. She's creating new music with other country
artists in Nashville. She is, and by the way, how
do we not learn or I'm sorry, no, let me
rephrase that. How do we learn if we don't learn
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from the legends?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Right? You know? If you think about it.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And we have a friend she's from Japan, and she said,
she's like, we got it twisted.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Here in Japan. Your elders live with you.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Your elders not only are you taking care of them,
but they're taking care of your kids. And you're all
a part of this. And listen, it's not. I think
culturally it's difficult for a lot of different people to
have that happen in their home. And I know there's
personalities and things like that. I get that, But what
she was saying is who better to teach your children
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your parents? And I said her, I was like, you
know what, You're absolutely right, and I get the village.
It takes a village and everything. But what she was
saying is there are life lessons that my parents lived
through that I can't tell my kids. But you know what,
just being around them will give them the exposure that
they need in order to make them good people, in
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order to keep them learning. And it also keeps the
elders young by being around the younger people, do you
see what I mean? So, by Dolly and by Tony
Bennett creating and collaborating with these new artists, it isn't
about them trying to stay relevant either. It keeps them young,
It gives them the fulfillment that they need.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The problem is a lot of younger people they don't
believe in ogs. You know how we got our ogs
and we respect them. And you're like, I kissed the ring.
I'll never speak ill about this person and this person right,
your trailblazer open up the doors that wouldn't be here
without them. I feel like as generations come up, that's disappearing.
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I have people Carolina that I would never in my
life speak ill of, distrispect because of who they are
and what they created. And there are trail blazers in
the area that I existed now when I can only
exist there because of them. But in an area in
an era of well, I'm popping because as a TikTok,
nobody did not inform me. It's disappearing. And you know what,
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we got to force it on them. You better respect
who came before you.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well two things about that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Do you remember when we had International Women's Day and
I was sitting on a panel with Daniel Manero, Maria Maliedo,
Crystal Roasace, and Angie Martinez. The first thing I believe
that I said was I always always admired Angie. I
never met her before. You know, I never really knew
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her before she came over to work with us at iHeart,
But when I tell you it, I'm humble enough to
always give her her flowers because if it weren't for
an Angie Martinez in afternoon Drive. Previously at Hot ninety
seven I used to listen to her and study her
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because I wanted to do this.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I wanted to be great, I wanted to be successful,
and I looked at her as the model.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know what it is now people have too much
ego and they're like, nah, she ain't popping, she ain't this,
she ain't.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That, And it's like no, no, no, no, no, sorry, sweeties,
you better take that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Gave two seats because you don't know what she went
through to get to the point where she is today.
You know the ageism thing to me and I'm sorry,
I'm so fired up and I can't believe like that
you didn't tell me that we were going to do
this because I love this, this whole thing. It is
so important to me, especially as a Latina. And you
know what, we're going to get into this part because
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I want to tell you about a situation that recently
just happened, and we'll do that right after this break. So, honey,
we were talking about how this actually affects, you know,
not only women, I mean women as a whole and
are just entirely we face agism in our careers. You know,
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in relationships, you know, there's a lot of people who
get divorced and trade out a wife for a younger one,
you know, a tighter one, a different model. But what
I will say is, as latinas in this industry, I'm
very taken aback by some of the responses that I
have heard. Now, I recently got to sit down with
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Jennifer Lopez, not once, but twice.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
She had that new movie coming out called The Mother.
It's out you guys can see it now. And I
had the opportunity to sit down with Jennifer and interview
her for two different outlets.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And when I.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Tell you, the level of respect that I have for
this woman is off the charts, immeasurable. And it's not
because I'm a super fan or I'm fan girling. It
is because of the obstacles that this woman has had
to overcome in order to get to where she is
and stay there. Okay, when I posted something about her,
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you know, people are like, oh, she's she's looking like
she's getting up there, Jaylo.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yes, people need to stop.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yes, And when I tell you, I am so offended
by that because, first of all, she takes impeccable care
of her.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
She's The way that she takes care of herself is
just remarkable. But also it's just like, she's fifty plus. Now,
are you freaking kidding me? If you if you look
at the women in this country at fifty plus, like
you you need to tell me if you do.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Like the women in this country at thirty something.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But right, right, And that's but also it's infuriating to
me because it's like, also, why are we comparing anyone?
Let her be, let her create, let her.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Continue to bust down those doors for the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
She's fifty three and a couple of weeks ago, the
Megala went down and I saw a video of her.
You know those videos where people spin or whatever, like
E News loves to do that. Oh yes, yeah they do, Yeah, okay, video.
There's no photoshop, there's no filtering, there's no editing. She
was divined, her skin, her smile, Like, why would you
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want j Loo to go anywhere when at fifty three
she is in the prime of her career. Carolina. She
when I went to Super Bowl before the pandemic, I
saw this woman perform. Wow, I was blown away. She
not going nowhere. I want her to be just like
Dolly part in a seventy one still kicking doors down.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Absolutely, And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
The other thing that was infuriating to me when I
was looking at the comments. People don't know that her
production company actually was the company that went to Netflix.
Netflix partnered with her production companies. So not only is
she starring in not only is she pushing her own
boundaries and getting into a different kind of role, a
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different kind of character that she has ever done.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Before, but Homie is producing this on the back end. Okay,
Like That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And it's just like, are we seriously going to sit
here and minimize people for following their dreams and continuing
to be passionate about things. So now, because she's fifty
three and she's made millions of dollars, she's just supposed
to go to her estate and just be sipping on
champagne with Ben.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
She can't continue to create.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Look at ninety one years old, hell.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Still working on sitcoms. But you know what, though, I
have to do. I have to say that's Soka. I'm
telling you right now, we do not stop. I think
there's something in our blood we go for it and
we continue to go for it now.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Switching gears because I do.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And I'm sorry, I know I went off because like,
do not touch Jennifer Lopez.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
First of all, the fact that you were just talking
about I was sitting across from table, that alone deserves
a damn episode in its entire time.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I mean, honestly, I'll tell you after we get off
of this episode, I'll tell you everything. And I just like,
I soaked up every ounce of energy. She was so kind,
like give me a jujus. I'm like, I'm like, so, babe,
how can we partner up with this production company?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Why don't you get my why don't you give me
my talk show?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Like, but I do want to switch gears here and
talk about something that is very personal to me, and
I think that it could be very helpful to people
who may feel like they are burnt out or they're drained,
or like maybe people think that like your time is up,
that you need to move on. No, no, no, whatever. You know,
my father is eighty years old this year.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Eighty honey. He's gonna be happy, my papa, and he
still works.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Okay, I think I've told you guys, he's tried to
retire three times.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He drove my mother crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
My mom was like, moiema, you know, like she just
he is a worker.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Bee.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We have been talking about my father and the amount
of work that he puts in and the reason why
he does it.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And he says, guys, it keeps me sharp.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And the research is there, The science is there people
who stop working and don't continue something. You know, your brain,
it's a muscle. You got to exercise it. And by
the way, I'm not a doctor. I don't know if
it's a muscle. Can somebody verify that?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Pa it is okay. But what I'm saying is.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, having this conversation with my father because here
as a family, we're concerned for him. We want him
to slow down, and he's like, I'm not slowing down.
When I slowed down, that's it. I gotta keep moving.
My brain still works, I'm still aware. I'm cognizant. I'm
physically healthy.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
He really is.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean, I hope that I got my dad's jeans
because he.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is like, on it, right, I would to get five.
Don you got your dad's jeans. I would to get five.
That's so whoever want to see Carolina disappear. She got
another forty years left.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't know what that's right, baby, and they're gonna
have to wheel me out. But but you know what.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Then I started talking to him and I said, Daddy,
you know what, you're so right, you know? And he
said he told me. He said, eh, then okay. You know,
he's like, you've got to keep training your brain. Do things,
challenge yourself. Don't be afraid to like take chances. You know,
he's like, every day, you know what, be athletic. Do
(27:55):
something athletic. And then we started discussing you know, obviously
we know like Suitku, crossword puzzles, you know, things like that.
You go to the New York Times. You can get
those for free, by the way, But he said, you know,
we were talking about it because I have a ping
pong table at my house. And he's like, do you
know research says that if you do you play table tennis,
(28:15):
it's fast, you keep up your hand eye coordination. It
works a part of your brain. I think he said,
like the Sarahbellum or something. He said, it works a
part of your brain. You got to keep working your
brain out because that is what is going to keep
you young. That is what is going to motivate you
to keep on going. He's like, you want to be around,
and he's like, I want to be around as long
as you know, God lets me be.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But that's where I feel like, it's like that puts
things in perspective for me.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
You know what I'm saying, here's an eighty year old
man where most people talking about agism. Oh, he's an
old doctor. He has old methods, he has this. My
dad is doing telehealth, which when he first started out
in medicine that didn't even exist.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
He is seeing.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Patients still one on one. I mean he is doing
the thing, honey. And that's what I'm saying. It's like
we cannot discard people just because they're not within that
sweet spot of an age range.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'm sorry, I'm talking entirely too much.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
No, no, no, you're good. It's crazy because when it comes
to picking doctors, maybe I am being ages. I prefer
an older doctor. I don't want a young doctor. I
need for him to be knowledgeable a season. I would
love your dad to be my doctor because I'm like,
you don't see some things. Meanwhile, a thirty year old doctor,
but like you know, what you're looking at right now.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Oh my gosh, no, you know what, that's like the
whole reason why we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It exactly right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But you know what, maybe it's something for us to
be aware of.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Maybe you were never aware of that before, and like
you just had this you know, light bulb moment and.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Now, and it happens to young people. Look at me,
I say, I prefer an older doctor. I was reading
an article and it was like a twenty two year
old pilot and she says she experiences you know, agism
all day long because people are like, oh, you're twenty
two and you're a pilot. They question her, they question
her abilities. They're not even looking at like, wow, you're
(30:07):
a pilot at twenty two. People are just doubtful about
her her abilities and whether or not she can even
fly a plane. Agism just aimed at a different age bracket.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Right, And you know, earlier in the show, I told
you how this is even affecting people who are like, well,
I mean, listen, we've got to all embrace this. Social
influencer is considered a career like this is where were
her in life?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Like this is true?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know, and I was seeing things on about these
TikTok creators and how when and almost like modeling, honey,
that when they reach a certain age, you know, twenty
twenty eight. I think it was like between twenty six
and twenty eight. That's why that number is sticking out
to me that now they're like, oh, I've aged out.
(30:56):
I can't be doing this anymore. So now they have
to come up with something else, And how sol.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Might I know, I swear to that is insane. Wasn't
this for the younger j Okay? So you gotta be young,
but you can't be getting towards the thirties. I don't know.
I'm just so confused right now, because I still thought
twenty five was young. But like I said, this person
that we work with told me they were feeling old
because they were going to turn thirty and people are
(31:21):
starting to make jokes about them being old, and I'm like,
thirties old.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Now, Oh I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I mean, listen, I don't believe in that at all.
You can be fifty years old and be young. You
can be you know what I mean. You can be
twenty years old and be young, but you could also
be sixty and have a young youthful outlook on life.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
That to me is just so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But you know, the TikTok thing, what I was what
I thought was interesting is like now some of these
influencers who people have been following, now they're trying to
reinvent themselves in ways so that they can continue on
the platform and to continue to be social media creators
that they're like, now I'm going to be Now I'm
going to be a mo influencer. And so they're having
babies and then it's like, now I'm gonna have another baby,
(32:05):
so now I have more content.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
To post and more things post.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And it's just like they got a movement to different
areas of life. I get, I guess new achievements and like,
now you mentioned TikTok, and I know a lot of
people that are like, I'm too old for TikTok. I
don't go on TikTok. I don't use TikTok. It's for
the kids.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's me, Hi, it's the problem, it's me.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's just becomes so prevalent, like everybody's so hyper aware
now of age and what you can do at what age.
Let's just live, folks, because be that I'm gonna TikTok.
I don't know who they care.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
No, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I think for me, it's hard for me to wrap
my brain around it just because like I have so
many other things going on. Oh well, I can't even
I don't even have Instagram figured out, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
So for me, it's like to add something else.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's a whole job make It can take hours. Oh
for sure, for sure you have that you don't have
the bandwidth to add TikTok influencer onto your daily activity.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I truly don't unless I have an assistant or something,
which that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Happen unless you give up the kids, right.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And that is not happening, not my babies.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But I feel like we can definitely wrap this up
by saying, there are so many things that we discuss openly. Racism, sexism,
Agism is something.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
That people are afraid to talk about.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But if you look at big corporations, if you look
at the CEOs and the CFOs of these corporations, they
have the ability to get into their seventies and their eighties,
and they have the ability to run these multi billion
dollar industries until they're ready to give it up. So
(33:55):
don't ever think that you have to give up something
because somebody says you're past your prime.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Boom, I said it.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Look at your president Biden. Yeah, here like eighty seven
years old, talk about he's gonna run again.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, you know, we don't talk about politics on this show,
but yeah, you know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Living his best life being a president in his eighties.
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, but people, I mean, that's that's actually part of
the discussion, you know. I mean where they've been talking
about it in politics, you know about should we have
like age limits.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Should we have I mean, there we go. It's a
part of the discussion.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
So you know what if there if there's ever anything
that I feel like we do here, it's that we
have the freedom to just speak to each other about
these I am so grateful that you brought this to
the podcast today.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
For real, I just want people to be a little
bit more aware of this because I feel like it's
so ingrained in a culture that we don't even notice
we're doing it. But if you hear this conversation when
you're gonna do it, you might be more aware and
backpedal a little.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, definitely, Well, and you know what. Tell us your
thoughts on this. Have you ever faced this type of discrimination, like,
have you encountered this at your workplace? Because I'm positive
it can't just be in one industry, you know, I
feel like it's everywhere. So we would love to continue
the discussion. Make sure you join me. Actually, you can
(35:22):
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I check. I'm at the Real Carolina.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
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Speaker 2 (35:37):
Absolutely, and join us next week for another episode. Until then,
have a great week, everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Hey. Lifence Banglish is a production of Life Pence Banglish
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I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born
and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and
I'm a body positive advocate.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm Carolina Bermudez Soy Nikara WinCE but I was born
and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama, and
a worker bee.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is life in Spanglish Buenos dias, Carolina.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, baby, it's always a great day whenever I'm with you.
So thank you, thank you for joining me today. By
the way, I will say this, I got a listener DM,
one of our listeners said that she totally appreciates what
we're doing. I'm actually gonna look for the DM right
now because I said to her, I was like, are
you kidding me? Like you are the reason why we
do this, Alejandra. She said that she just wanted to
(00:49):
stop by to say how amazing the podcasts have been
that she had finally had a chance to catch up.
And that's like, honestly, your feedback, just your little comments
here and there, when you guys hit that subscribe button,
that is everything to us. Because seriously, we want to
connect and we feel like we're doing that with you.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Thank you for taking the time, Alexandra to send some
love our way. I wanted to tell you, honey. So
that was like my my contribution for today.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You're gonna have to contribute a whole lot more than that, Carolina,
but I'll take it out.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, what are we doing today, Karlena?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was dying to connect with you because we've touched
on so many different topics in the past few years.
I'm not gonna tell you what it is yet, but okay,
and right. This man has been around for decades. When
I was a young girl, he took the reggaeton industry
by storm.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
He went away.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
We haven't seen him in a long time. I hear
he's had some difficulties in life. But just like a
couple of weeks ago, he's back. I'm like, Wow, Dago,
he's back. He's back with new music. He's back with
a new video. And then as I'm looking through the comments,
people are like, oh he looks horrible. Oh he looks
so old. Oh look at the gray hair. He says.
(02:01):
Sign on. I'm like, what am I reading right now?
Do you guys not understand who this man is? And
right away I was like agism, Oh, boy. Yeah, it's
a form of discrimination against not just older people, but
even young people are experiencing now. But it just put
me in a weird space because I'm like, do you
(02:23):
not understand who this man is? He is an icon,
he is a legend, he is making a comeback. But
I kept seeing people talking about his looks, talking about
his age. Mind you, Carolina, the man's voice is impeccable,
livery crazy, and people are focusing on gray hairs, Like
(02:45):
what has this world really come to when it comes
to people age and just you know, just putting our
talents to the side and focusing on if you had
a couple of birthdays.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh, why do you have to drop that load right now?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Because I'm telling you this is something that we absolutely
need to discuss and something that you mentioned which I
want to touch on quickly. This isn't agism just for
older people too, which is so interesting because we're finding
agism and things that are affecting younger people even on TikTok,
(03:20):
social media influencers, people in our industry, in the radio
industry and the television industry.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So okay, let's chop it up. First of all, I
would say about de he is what some people would say.
And this is just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I would say he's reached like godfather status, right or
the right like the reggaeton community. You gotta acknowledge and
give the legends their flowers. And that's what this guy is, Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Let's just put that out there. That's how I feel
about him.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So you want to minimize this person who is trying
to do first of all, what they love, what their
passion about, what they were made to do, and you
want to stop them from going after it because they're
a little bit older now they got like you said,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean, like, what what is going on here?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Just because Raw is here, just because Benito is here,
just because Maluma is here, that does not mean that
e La Vayalde doesn't have room to exist too.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, I agree with that, but you know what, here's
the thing. It's interesting that this is happening to a man.
We typically see this with women, especially in the artistic industries,
you know, models, if you're in the modeling industry, which
by the way, neither of us are. But I will
tell you know, I know there are limits. Basically if
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you are twenty six, twenty eight, you can pretty much
kiss your career goodbye.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
You know, I think, like previously, like that's what was thought.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Now we're seeing you know, Elon Musk's mother, Oh a resurgence,
it writes, and she, I believe, is in her seventies,
which is just so crazy. And I applaud that, and
I think that that's exactly what we should be doing.
We should be allowing each other to have these different
phases of our lives, you know what I mean, Like
(05:15):
there's a season for everything, there's a reason for everything.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But this is infuriating to me.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Age discrimination is real, Carolina. It's like we see it
every day, don't know thea It's just it's a natural
course of life. It's gonna happen. While I was so
against it. I remember when it was a good fortune
to live a long life. I suppose to now in
(05:43):
some industries, Carlina, you know, I had someone come up
to me that I work with and she was like,
I feel like I'm getting old and I feel like
people are cracking jokes about me. I said, how old
are you? She said, I turned thirty already.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay, now this should not be. When I first started
in radio, I was a baby. I think I was
twenty five years old, right, Oh, yeah, because I'm turning
forty five. I have always been so. Back when I
started in radio, which was, you know, two thousand and three,
I think was when I first started, I was told
(06:18):
by someone in the industry, a fellow woman, that I
should never tell anybody my age. And I said, why,
because I truly believe like you do, honey, like every
day is a blessing. Like what you should celebrate your birthdays,
You should celebrate every day, right, that whole mentality. She
said no, because as you get older, you want to
(06:39):
remain that young, youthful voice, especially in top forty radio,
which is where I worked, you know, with zero one
hundred and why one hundred. And I said, but I
mean people can like look it up. I mean, it's
not a secret when I was born. And she said,
I would just suggest to you that you don't give
anybody your age. She's like, I'm I'm telling you it's
(07:00):
gonna work out better for you in your future. And
I do appreciate that she was actually trying to give
me one small nugget of advice, because truly, no women
looked out for me when I was coming up in
this industry, like I really did.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Not have a woman mentor.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But I did the opposite, and I embraced my age
and I told everybody from the time that I started,
because I was just like, that's not me, that's not
who I am.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And then I stayed.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Fighting your age at twenty five, like how crazy would
that be?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right? And also like, what am I going to do?
Tell people I'm eighteen nineteen, Like that's not even believable
because I went to college, Like that's what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I was just like, I live my life in truth,
or I try to. And I said, nah, that's not
for me. I don't care, so what like then fine,
if my time is up, then my time is going
to be up. But at least I'm being honest and honey,
when I tell you that, there are so many women
who have reached out to me and they say, girl,
like you are doing it, like you're so honest, you're
(07:58):
forty five. I am forty five and a mother in
this industry, I only want people to know the truth
about me, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, no,
I don't want to have to keep up with a lie.
I'm bad at math, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Like I would tell this person I was. But even
even with Latina's, it's always been a thing this is
with that, Like it's just always been like a secretive
type of thing that people have been ashamed of. But
now it's just taking a different turn, Carolina, maybe because
it's on social media. Like I was reading an article
(08:37):
Bbi Rexa she's talking about she was told that she's
too old to be sexy. Meanwhile, she's what thirty years old?
Thirty four years old? Okay, Like who dictates how old you?
When do you stop being quote unquote sexy?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Okay, First of all, have you seen Bbi rex lately?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I know, oh it's twenty twenty three and we are
not judging and their bodies and their faces, but girl,
she looks freaking amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
She's got that body, YadA YadA. I love it. She's
owning it. And it's like, you're going to.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Tell Bbi Rexa that, in my opinion, this is just
the beginning of your prime. Right, you know you're thirty
years old. You're going to tell her that she needs
to stop and not be sexy. And you know what,
the same thing this actually brings up. Another point is
said to a lot of mothers, Oh, when you.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Have a kid, you can't be putting. You can't be
doing this, you can't be How do you know how
I feel?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
If I want to be sexy on a Wednesday and
feel that way about myself and put up some pictures.
Now I don't because I'm too self conscious and I'm
not there mentally. But if other mothers want to do that,
that's on them. You know what I'm saying, Like, who
is anybody else to tell us when we should stop
being Anything?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That I never understood is like, Okay, I had a kid,
so now can no longer have sex appeal? I can
no longer you know how you think I got that
kid exactly being a little hot ass? But Nah, the
thing with they all got me thinking, and I was like,
it's crazy how some people want others to cease to
(10:20):
exist if they don't have a certain age that they
want them Like even in even in radio, I've I've
heard younger people. You know, I've mentored a lot of
younger people I've had about.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You have You're an incredible mentor you really that I'm
sorry I do.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I have to give you credit.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You spend so much time bringing people up, and I
mean this sincerely. I have watched, Honey, I see you
in the hallways. I see what you do with the
people who come to the digital team, and that show
potential and problem.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I likes my kids like I love them. And I've
had about thirty probably different interns that I've mentored, Toad
worked with and Krolina. I've heard some of them say, oh, well,
it's time for a newer generation, Like, oh, well, you know,
enough is enough. You know certain people need to go home,
And I'm like, absolutely not. You think somebody who's been
(11:12):
working twenty years is just going to go home because
a seventeen and an eighteen year old says they need
to go home and die. No, absolutely no, And that's
agism right there. Oh well, that's enough for them, go home.
Let other people have a turn.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Why Okay, wait, you know what, I want to dive
into this a little bit more, and we're going to
discuss the radio industry. But also I want to bring
up a point that really applies to everybody, and we'll
do it right after this. So, Honey, you need to
tell me that some of these young tenders that are
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coming in fresh out of school are saying that the
legends in radio need to wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yes, I've heard it. I have probably like ten different
people in my that I've seen come in as a
young intern or young employee and look around the room
and look around different radio stations and be like, this
person needs to go. That person, we've had enough of them.
This person overstated there welcome. Oh no, and we need
(12:15):
a new XYZ. Their time is up. And I'm like,
absolutely not. You think I'm gonna work this hard to
then leave when an intern.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Comes Well, no, wait, do you think let me ask
you this. Do you think it's immaturity on their part
or because I that might be it. Because I feel
like there's two things happening here. Number one, I think
that there is an inflated sense of ego. If you
really think that you can sit in a chair or
somebody Yeah, no, I know. And I'm not saying that
(12:46):
to be you know, like not in a derogatory way
or me.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, but I'm saying, if it took this person ten, fifteen,
twenty years to get to this chair or this position
or this title, what makes you think that you in
your last semester of college can fill their shoes.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Right, I think that that's so.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I feel like there might be a little bit of
you know, immaturity, inflated sense of ego, and perhaps maybe
they don't have the scope or their view of the
world like that's been established yet.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Do you understand what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Because it's like I'm a realist, Okay, I can tell
you right now that there is no way that I
would ever be able to sit in a chair where
I am now when I was twenty five. Even so
I think that that might have something to do with it. Now,
I will say in our industry, radio has been kind
(13:47):
to older men. Radio is not kind to older females.
So the older females who have made it to this
stage of their career where they're celebrating twenty thirty, I
don't know many people who have been celebrating forty years
in radio that are women. So I think that you know,
you look in Boston, there was a guy who just
(14:09):
retired in his seventies. You know, you can look anywhere
across the country. He was at a top forty station
in his seventies. Now, for those of you guys who
don't know, let me give you a little back. You know,
history here Top forty radio is typically you know, skewed
to females eighteen to thirty four years old. So you
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need to tell me that a seventy year old man, okay,
that had has been doing this for years and years
and years, has the capability to stay in that chair,
But you won't afford that to a woman.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think the times do need to change, okay, but I.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Also think that we need to allow people to have
the freedom and the ability to use their skills until
they say their time is up.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Thank you, Carolina. Nobody wanted Frank Sinatra to stop singing this.
I feel like this man used his voice, which was
his talent. It was you know, it was his looks
at one point, but overall, Frank Sinatra's voice was what
carried him through life. Like, who are we to say, oh,
Frank Sinatra's fifty go home. We don't want to hear
you anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Absolutely not, babe, babe, I'm gonna give you one more.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go one further than you.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Okay, blow my mind. Go ahead, Tony freaking Bennett, Oh
my god, Tony Bennett.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, So now you want to talk about Frank Sinatra.
Tony Bennett is ninety six years old and is creating
art with Lady Gaga and Ed Sharon or did you
oh know Ed Shearon? I'm not sure if Ed Sharon
did something with him, who was it? I'm thinking Ed
Sharon did something with Andrea Bachelli. Sorry my bad, but no,
(15:48):
you know, I mean Tony Bennett is still creating with
artists that are contemporary artists. And you mean to tell
me somebody's gonna go to Tony Bennett and be like, hey, bro,
time to wrap it. No, he's a legend. He's gonna
do what he does.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I love this. Let's talk Dolly Parton, Carolina.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh no, you can't do this to me.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, honey, we can't talk about Dolly Parton because you
don't know the love, the deep, deep love that I
have in my soul for Dolly Parton. Then you guys
have no idea how much I care about this woman.
I feel like she's a national treasure. I want to
bubble wrap her. I don't want anybody to even look
at her the wrong way. No, my Dolly is a jem.
(16:33):
But go ahead, honey, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You know I was reading I was reading up on
agism in all different areas, and I stumble the current
across this quote that Dolly Parton said. You know, she said,
after you reach a certain age, they think you're over. Well,
I will never be over. I will be making records
if I have to sell them out of the trunk
of my car. I've done that in the past, and
(16:55):
I'll do it again. She's like, hell no, I'm seventy
something years old, and I ain't gonna stop singing because
you say so.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I love that so much. And here's another thing. Look
at Dolly. She is creating new music with her god
daughter Miley Cyrus. She's creating new music with other country
artists in Nashville. She is, and by the way, how
do we not learn or I'm sorry, no, let me
rephrase that. How do we learn if we don't learn
(17:25):
from the legends?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Right? You know? If you think about it.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And we have a friend she's from Japan, and she said,
she's like, we got it twisted.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Here in Japan. Your elders live with you.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Your elders not only are you taking care of them,
but they're taking care of your kids. And you're all
a part of this. And listen, it's not. I think
culturally it's difficult for a lot of different people to
have that happen in their home. And I know there's
personalities and things like that. I get that, But what
she was saying is who better to teach your children
(18:00):
your parents? And I said her, I was like, you
know what, You're absolutely right, and I get the village.
It takes a village and everything. But what she was
saying is there are life lessons that my parents lived
through that I can't tell my kids. But you know what,
just being around them will give them the exposure that
they need in order to make them good people, in
(18:22):
order to keep them learning. And it also keeps the
elders young by being around the younger people, do you
see what I mean? So, by Dolly and by Tony
Bennett creating and collaborating with these new artists, it isn't
about them trying to stay relevant either. It keeps them young,
It gives them the fulfillment that they need.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The problem is a lot of younger people they don't
believe in ogs. You know how we got our ogs
and we respect them. And you're like, I kissed the ring.
I'll never speak ill about this person and this person right,
your trailblazer open up the doors that wouldn't be here
without them. I feel like as generations come up, that's disappearing.
(19:03):
I have people Carolina that I would never in my
life speak ill of, distrispect because of who they are
and what they created. And there are trail blazers in
the area that I existed now when I can only
exist there because of them. But in an area in
an era of well, I'm popping because as a TikTok,
nobody did not inform me. It's disappearing. And you know what,
(19:27):
we got to force it on them. You better respect
who came before you.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well two things about that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Do you remember when we had International Women's Day and
I was sitting on a panel with Daniel Manero, Maria Maliedo,
Crystal Roasace, and Angie Martinez. The first thing I believe
that I said was I always always admired Angie. I
never met her before. You know, I never really knew
(19:53):
her before she came over to work with us at iHeart,
But when I tell you it, I'm humble enough to
always give her her flowers because if it weren't for
an Angie Martinez in afternoon Drive. Previously at Hot ninety
seven I used to listen to her and study her
(20:15):
because I wanted to do this.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I wanted to be great, I wanted to be successful,
and I looked at her as the model.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know what it is now people have too much
ego and they're like, nah, she ain't popping, she ain't this,
she ain't.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That, And it's like no, no, no, no, no, sorry, sweeties,
you better take that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Gave two seats because you don't know what she went
through to get to the point where she is today.
You know the ageism thing to me and I'm sorry,
I'm so fired up and I can't believe like that
you didn't tell me that we were going to do
this because I love this, this whole thing. It is
so important to me, especially as a Latina. And you
know what, we're going to get into this part because
(20:53):
I want to tell you about a situation that recently
just happened, and we'll do that right after this break. So, honey,
we were talking about how this actually affects, you know,
not only women, I mean women as a whole and
are just entirely we face agism in our careers. You know,
(21:15):
in relationships, you know, there's a lot of people who
get divorced and trade out a wife for a younger one,
you know, a tighter one, a different model. But what
I will say is, as latinas in this industry, I'm
very taken aback by some of the responses that I
have heard. Now, I recently got to sit down with
(21:39):
Jennifer Lopez, not once, but twice.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
She had that new movie coming out called The Mother.
It's out you guys can see it now. And I
had the opportunity to sit down with Jennifer and interview
her for two different outlets.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And when I.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Tell you, the level of respect that I have for
this woman is off the charts, immeasurable. And it's not
because I'm a super fan or I'm fan girling. It
is because of the obstacles that this woman has had
to overcome in order to get to where she is
and stay there. Okay, when I posted something about her,
(22:20):
you know, people are like, oh, she's she's looking like
she's getting up there, Jaylo.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yes, people need to stop.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yes, And when I tell you, I am so offended
by that because, first of all, she takes impeccable care
of her.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
She's The way that she takes care of herself is
just remarkable. But also it's just like, she's fifty plus. Now,
are you freaking kidding me? If you if you look
at the women in this country at fifty plus, like
you you need to tell me if you do.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Like the women in this country at thirty something.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But right, right, And that's but also it's infuriating to
me because it's like, also, why are we comparing anyone?
Let her be, let her create, let her.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Continue to bust down those doors for the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
She's fifty three and a couple of weeks ago, the
Megala went down and I saw a video of her.
You know those videos where people spin or whatever, like
E News loves to do that. Oh yes, yeah they do, Yeah, okay, video.
There's no photoshop, there's no filtering, there's no editing. She
was divined, her skin, her smile, Like, why would you
(23:38):
want j Loo to go anywhere when at fifty three
she is in the prime of her career. Carolina. She
when I went to Super Bowl before the pandemic, I
saw this woman perform. Wow, I was blown away. She
not going nowhere. I want her to be just like
Dolly part in a seventy one still kicking doors down.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Absolutely, And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
The other thing that was infuriating to me when I
was looking at the comments. People don't know that her
production company actually was the company that went to Netflix.
Netflix partnered with her production companies. So not only is
she starring in not only is she pushing her own
boundaries and getting into a different kind of role, a
(24:24):
different kind of character that she has ever done.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Before, but Homie is producing this on the back end. Okay,
Like That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And it's just like, are we seriously going to sit
here and minimize people for following their dreams and continuing
to be passionate about things. So now, because she's fifty
three and she's made millions of dollars, she's just supposed
to go to her estate and just be sipping on
champagne with Ben.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
She can't continue to create.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Look at ninety one years old, hell.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Still working on sitcoms. But you know what, though, I
have to do. I have to say that's Soka. I'm
telling you right now, we do not stop. I think
there's something in our blood we go for it and
we continue to go for it now.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Switching gears because I do.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And I'm sorry, I know I went off because like,
do not touch Jennifer Lopez.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
First of all, the fact that you were just talking
about I was sitting across from table, that alone deserves
a damn episode in its entire time.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I mean, honestly, I'll tell you after we get off
of this episode, I'll tell you everything. And I just like,
I soaked up every ounce of energy. She was so kind,
like give me a jujus. I'm like, I'm like, so, babe,
how can we partner up with this production company?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Why don't you get my why don't you give me
my talk show?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Like, but I do want to switch gears here and
talk about something that is very personal to me, and
I think that it could be very helpful to people
who may feel like they are burnt out or they're drained,
or like maybe people think that like your time is up,
that you need to move on. No, no, no, whatever. You know,
my father is eighty years old this year.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Eighty honey. He's gonna be happy, my papa, and he
still works.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Okay, I think I've told you guys, he's tried to
retire three times.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He drove my mother crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
My mom was like, moiema, you know, like she just
he is a worker.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Bee.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We have been talking about my father and the amount
of work that he puts in and the reason why
he does it.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And he says, guys, it keeps me sharp.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And the research is there, The science is there people
who stop working and don't continue something. You know, your brain,
it's a muscle. You got to exercise it. And by
the way, I'm not a doctor. I don't know if
it's a muscle. Can somebody verify that?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Pa it is okay. But what I'm saying is.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, having this conversation with my father because here
as a family, we're concerned for him. We want him
to slow down, and he's like, I'm not slowing down.
When I slowed down, that's it. I gotta keep moving.
My brain still works, I'm still aware. I'm cognizant. I'm
physically healthy.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
He really is.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean, I hope that I got my dad's jeans
because he.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is like, on it, right, I would to get five.
Don you got your dad's jeans. I would to get five.
That's so whoever want to see Carolina disappear. She got
another forty years left.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't know what that's right, baby, and they're gonna
have to wheel me out. But but you know what.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Then I started talking to him and I said, Daddy,
you know what, you're so right, you know? And he
said he told me. He said, eh, then okay. You know,
he's like, you've got to keep training your brain. Do things,
challenge yourself. Don't be afraid to like take chances. You know,
he's like, every day, you know what, be athletic. Do
(27:55):
something athletic. And then we started discussing you know, obviously
we know like Suitku, crossword puzzles, you know, things like that.
You go to the New York Times. You can get
those for free, by the way, But he said, you know,
we were talking about it because I have a ping
pong table at my house. And he's like, do you
know research says that if you do you play table tennis,
(28:15):
it's fast, you keep up your hand eye coordination. It
works a part of your brain. I think he said,
like the Sarahbellum or something. He said, it works a
part of your brain. You got to keep working your
brain out because that is what is going to keep
you young. That is what is going to motivate you
to keep on going. He's like, you want to be around,
and he's like, I want to be around as long
as you know, God lets me be.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But that's where I feel like, it's like that puts
things in perspective for me.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
You know what I'm saying, here's an eighty year old
man where most people talking about agism. Oh, he's an
old doctor. He has old methods, he has this. My
dad is doing telehealth, which when he first started out
in medicine that didn't even exist.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
He is seeing.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Patients still one on one. I mean he is doing
the thing, honey. And that's what I'm saying. It's like
we cannot discard people just because they're not within that
sweet spot of an age range.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'm sorry, I'm talking entirely too much.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
No, no, no, you're good. It's crazy because when it comes
to picking doctors, maybe I am being ages. I prefer
an older doctor. I don't want a young doctor. I
need for him to be knowledgeable a season. I would
love your dad to be my doctor because I'm like,
you don't see some things. Meanwhile, a thirty year old doctor,
but like you know, what you're looking at right now.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Oh my gosh, no, you know what, that's like the
whole reason why we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It exactly right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But you know what, maybe it's something for us to
be aware of.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Maybe you were never aware of that before, and like
you just had this you know, light bulb moment and.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Now, and it happens to young people. Look at me,
I say, I prefer an older doctor. I was reading
an article and it was like a twenty two year
old pilot and she says she experiences you know, agism
all day long because people are like, oh, you're twenty
two and you're a pilot. They question her, they question
her abilities. They're not even looking at like, wow, you're
(30:07):
a pilot at twenty two. People are just doubtful about
her her abilities and whether or not she can even
fly a plane. Agism just aimed at a different age bracket.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Right, And you know, earlier in the show, I told
you how this is even affecting people who are like, well,
I mean, listen, we've got to all embrace this. Social
influencer is considered a career like this is where were
her in life?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Like this is true?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know, and I was seeing things on about these
TikTok creators and how when and almost like modeling, honey,
that when they reach a certain age, you know, twenty
twenty eight. I think it was like between twenty six
and twenty eight. That's why that number is sticking out
to me that now they're like, oh, I've aged out.
(30:56):
I can't be doing this anymore. So now they have
to come up with something else, And how sol.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Might I know, I swear to that is insane. Wasn't
this for the younger j Okay? So you gotta be young,
but you can't be getting towards the thirties. I don't know.
I'm just so confused right now, because I still thought
twenty five was young. But like I said, this person
that we work with told me they were feeling old
because they were going to turn thirty and people are
(31:21):
starting to make jokes about them being old, and I'm like,
thirties old.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Now, Oh I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I mean, listen, I don't believe in that at all.
You can be fifty years old and be young. You
can be you know what I mean. You can be
twenty years old and be young, but you could also
be sixty and have a young youthful outlook on life.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
That to me is just so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But you know, the TikTok thing, what I was what
I thought was interesting is like now some of these
influencers who people have been following, now they're trying to
reinvent themselves in ways so that they can continue on
the platform and to continue to be social media creators
that they're like, now I'm going to be Now I'm
going to be a mo influencer. And so they're having
babies and then it's like, now I'm gonna have another baby,
(32:05):
so now I have more content.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
To post and more things post.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And it's just like they got a movement to different
areas of life. I get, I guess new achievements and like,
now you mentioned TikTok, and I know a lot of
people that are like, I'm too old for TikTok. I
don't go on TikTok. I don't use TikTok. It's for
the kids.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's me, Hi, it's the problem, it's me.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's just becomes so prevalent, like everybody's so hyper aware
now of age and what you can do at what age.
Let's just live, folks, because be that I'm gonna TikTok.
I don't know who they care.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
No, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I think for me, it's hard for me to wrap
my brain around it just because like I have so
many other things going on. Oh well, I can't even
I don't even have Instagram figured out, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
So for me, it's like to add something else.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's a whole job make It can take hours. Oh
for sure, for sure you have that you don't have
the bandwidth to add TikTok influencer onto your daily activity.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I truly don't unless I have an assistant or something,
which that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Happen unless you give up the kids, right.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And that is not happening, not my babies.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But I feel like we can definitely wrap this up
by saying, there are so many things that we discuss openly. Racism, sexism,
Agism is something.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
That people are afraid to talk about.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But if you look at big corporations, if you look
at the CEOs and the CFOs of these corporations, they
have the ability to get into their seventies and their eighties,
and they have the ability to run these multi billion
dollar industries until they're ready to give it up. So
(33:55):
don't ever think that you have to give up something
because somebody says you're past your prime.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Boom, I said it.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Look at your president Biden. Yeah, here like eighty seven
years old, talk about he's gonna run again.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, you know, we don't talk about politics on this show,
but yeah, you know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Living his best life being a president in his eighties.
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, but people, I mean, that's that's actually part of
the discussion, you know. I mean where they've been talking
about it in politics, you know about should we have
like age limits.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Should we have I mean, there we go. It's a
part of the discussion.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
So you know what if there if there's ever anything
that I feel like we do here, it's that we
have the freedom to just speak to each other about
these I am so grateful that you brought this to
the podcast today.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
For real, I just want people to be a little
bit more aware of this because I feel like it's
so ingrained in a culture that we don't even notice
we're doing it. But if you hear this conversation when
you're gonna do it, you might be more aware and
backpedal a little.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, definitely, Well, and you know what. Tell us your
thoughts on this. Have you ever faced this type of discrimination, like,
have you encountered this at your workplace? Because I'm positive
it can't just be in one industry, you know, I
feel like it's everywhere. So we would love to continue
the discussion. Make sure you join me. Actually, you can
(35:22):
follow me on Instagram. It's really the only one that
I check. I'm at the Real Carolina.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Ring me up on a gram I am Honey German.
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a comment. We love reading those two.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Absolutely, and join us next week for another episode. Until then,
have a great week, everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
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