April 14, 2025 • 53 mins
In this episode we discuss a range of topics from spring ball updates and the current state of Iowa Football to the complex dynamics of NIL in college sports. The conversation covers walk-on experiences, differences in treatment between scholarship athletes and walk-ons, and the impact of NIL deals. They also debate solutions for regulating NIL like professional sports contracts and the potential issues with current systems. Other highlights include amusing insights into coaching personalities like Wallace and Parker, the possible future Iowa starting roster, and comments on how exciting this summer could be for Iowa Football news. Tune in for an entertaining session with the hosts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Casual conversation on the walk On podcast today. Thanks for
stopping in. We love having you here. Vwashed up walkons
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Today we talk a little bit of springball. Kevin's in
for twenty minutes and he has to bounce. Grant and
I take over. We discuss if Nil and the portal
have already an under four years killed college sports. Fun
(00:20):
conversation that will continue.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's have a day, Let's go welcome in.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Time is limited, Kevin Ward is only around for so
long as time is valuable. Sunshine into the office as
Kevin reads over his studies, Rose bull placard in the background,
fading as the years go on. Twenty fifteen team will
be remembered as if we all passed away that later this.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Year at the Oregon game. But we haven't.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
We're here, still live, still kicking, got murdered that game.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, Now, I think I think we're recognizing the Big
ten West championship. We're not recognizing the Rose Bowl that
that never happened. We never played there.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's certainly the result is essentially the same.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It is as if we never showed up, still won
the second half people forget that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Did we win the second half? I'm sure as fuck did.
The big college football media does not want you to
know that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
They don't want they don't want you to know that
we actually we won thirty minutes of football there, Hey,
you guys didn't lose.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You just ran out of time. That is not true. True.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
They could have on that day, grant, they could have
just whooped our ass for eight quarters.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like you're telling me, there's no chance.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Let's say they extended the game to like four and
a half hours. Well, it was already probably two and
a half or three no game time. Oh, it's the
game time.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, So it's like we ran an extra eight quarters
to this game. You think there's no chance you could
have chipped away a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So the final scores forty five to sixteen. It was
thirty five nothing at half, so you know we were
we were gaining six points every thirty minutes, so we
were down another We need what's that twenty nine points?
So we needed another five halves of football.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And another two and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, yeah, assuming that we got away.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So lucky, they're so lucky. There wasn't five five quarters.
So the razor thin edge. There just just ten more quarters.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Could you imagine if that's how the final game, like,
if that's how the championship game was played. The National
Championship is actually played in unlimited quarters full like full
medieval battle mode. You go until your players are no
longer able, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Side thought, what if football was.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Played until a certain score, like you always played until
one hundred first one hundred wins.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Are there any sports like that?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, then I think we would say tennis, you can hit.
That's not how tennis works.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But not really kind of but not really.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You have to win, uh, you have to win by two,
you have to win sets. Yeah, and tennis, Yeah, but
each game is.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Played to like it's the closest thing, right, Like the
score resets after each.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
There's yeah in ping pong, yeah yeah, played at twenty
one ping pong.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean yeah, ping pong, cornet bowling.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Bowling is a set amount of frame. I guess that's
just like quarters of set amount of time you could
I mean, what would you said, what would what would
the number be? I don't know because some games, I mean,
Ohio State would have beat Oregon in the first quarter
in that in that playoff game.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
If you said it at one hundred two, Deacon Hill
might still be playing now.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
No, he still at one hundred for that San Diego
State Iowa game of South South to South Dakota State
Iowa game.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Bro, We'd still be playing that game. It'd still be there.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Jack Campbell would still be getting safeties as we as
we do this podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Just forty safeties later.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Just unbelievable stat.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Jack Campbell finished the game three hundred and sixteen tackles,
thirty two safeties.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Be amazing. Yeah, I don't know, it would be fun.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You just play like it would completely devalue defense though
it just yeah, doesn't cricket Like, don't they have some
unbelievably long games?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I think they changed the uh like the game, like
the scoring system and like there's like limited rounds now
like oh there's like verge is the game that can
go like in.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Less than three hours?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Now I think I would hope. So, I mean I
think like, yes, the original version, I mean the games
would go on for like days, could go wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, extremely that's insane.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
As a spectator, you go home, I'd come back. I mean,
what are you what are we talking about here? I mean,
think of how trash you could be in the stands.
I mean the concessions that those things must be pulling
in unbelievable numbers.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Welcome into everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Brought to you by Eagle Points, Solar and the IWAG Council.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We're happy to be here tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Not not any huge topic on the menu. Like I said,
Kevin might have to bounce here in fifteen minutes. He's
working them in, as is Grant, which is why with
this podcast we're on our toes.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Grant probably won't have to bounce.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
There's no orthodontical trauma that Grant has to be gone for.
But got a couple of things on the menu tonight.
Paige Becker's is officially better than Kitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
She's a national championship. That's how it works, That's how that's.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's just how it works, right, teach their own rings
are rings are the only thing that matter, right, Grant?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I mean, yeah, I've always said Bill Russell greatest NBA
player ever, right, greatest basketball player of all time?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, that's how it's it all works. What does he
have ten rings? Eleven? I think he is eleven. I
believe he's won eleven championships, which is still crazy. It's
all right, and that wasn't a dig at Bill Russell.
He's one of the greatest ever.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But yeah, I mean he was playing against plumbers and
m it is. I think it's more crazy too, like
they showed, uh, just how it's insane how many championships
Ukon has won on the women's side of just oh yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's it's absolutely insane. Like Gino's up.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I mean, Gino's up there is one of the greatest
basketball coaches of all time as well, is with what
he has accomplished.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Absolutely, I mean, uh, we're talking about this. I this
is not the focus of tonight. I was a joke
to bring this in, but we are recording this about
a week early on Sunday, after that championship game has
been played. And I mean Gino and Yukon, we're talking
about like modern sports history, their dynasties up there with
like name a team.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Think I think he'd said he's been to he's been
to the Natty like twelve times and only lost once.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Or something like that. That could be a wrong stat
I think I saw some of the nuts like that
tough and they just dominated. They didn't. It wasn't even close.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I mean, for Page Beckers, it must be nice to
have two other players that are better than her.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You know, on the team.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'd be lying if I said I watched a ton
of Yukon women's basketball this year. I'm just being honest,
Like I didn't even I didn't see the game today.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Page was the third best scorer in today's game as
two other girls went for like twenty five, So they
won by a lot, right, they won by like twenty
six or thirty or something like.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That wasn't even close.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I was on a barbecue mission. I was really I
was exploring the barbecue the state.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Of Texas instead. That was what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Like you were like out at locations buying barbecue, or
you're trying to like singular location.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Barbecue is quite expensive, it turns out, so we got
to which we're in a slow grind to figure it
all out.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You could probably hit Kevin up. Kevin's in his meat era,
his meat grilling era.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okavi, do you know do you know how to smoke
like brisket? Do you know how to smoke meat? Are
you smoking meats?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, smoking some meats what do you well, what's your do? Tell?
Go go into detail?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
What do you want to know?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I got one to know what kind of meats that
were smoking, and we're getting good at it.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
What's kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The I mean, yeah, there's a little things that you
need to pick up here and there, but it's really
not that hard, especially if you have like a pellet
grilly just following directions really okay, Yeah, I get that.
I like I like smoking ris Probably I can hear
it too, smoking up pork, but it's probably the easiest.
(08:43):
H I would not start with the brisket if you're
just getting into it, okay, but.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I probably I probably got a little bit of time too.
I don't think my apartment is meant for smoking meats
right now. I'm gonna be I don't think it. I
don't think it would go great.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Probably shouldn't do that in the apartment all the way, Yeah,
I don't. I don't think my neighbors would love that,
but I think we'll get there with that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Is, if you're planning on eating what you're smoking that day,
you're gonna have to set an alarm to wake up
in the morning, especially if it's like a brisket. That
thing takes, depending how big it is, upwards of fourteen hours.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, I was gonna say this is it's a it's
a long haul, it's a big project.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Oh yeah big that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
A couple of things that I wanted to talk about today,
and one of them is from our last podcast. Grant
Kevin wasn't able to make it, but we talked to
the one and only Max White. You guys have just
heard that podcast previous to this one for the listeners,
and keV I brought up, you know, he's a walk on,
and we kind of talked about his journey to Iowa,
and he brought up how or I brought up to him,
(09:42):
how it must have felt good to get into Iowa
and start to see how things were working, see how
people are treated, realize, oh wow, this is a this
is the place to be if you're a walk on.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
This is where you want to be, if.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You want to be treated as an equal, you know,
like you get the same food, you get the same
all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And Grant tell me if.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm wrong here, but his his answer was a will
hesitant to a grief fully with that sentiment.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, I don't know, I think it's just a
I don't think he completely agree, like fully agreed or
fully disagreed.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think I was just saying that it's, uh, it's
a I don't even know a ton of how to
put words. I think he had a similar experience to
you guys, like I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I think, uh, it's like equal opportunity, but yeah, like
scarship guys are probably gonna get a quicker chance. It's
just kind of I interpreted it like, I don't think
it was anything totally different from what you guys have
always said.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think his response though more so in what he
was referring to when it comes to the nil stuff.
He kind of looked at us and it was like, yeah,
as far as guys are getting paid, and that's me.
So what I'm getting at keV is it sounds like
on the inside, this the money that's starting to go
around is starting to be pretty significant, like not just
the top guys, like even what the guys in the
(10:51):
middle are getting because of what the collective can do,
the way that our collective is set up, Guys who
are on scholarship have more opportunities to earn. Guys who
are older have more opportunity to needs to earn that
number is bigger and I like that structure.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, it's a Brads totos sometimes he's been.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
On there, yep.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And but what I got from Max was, Man, if
you're a walk on, things aren't the same. Man, Like,
there's been a gap that's been reintroduced as far.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
As uh, the haves and the haves nots. Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That And Max didn't he gave off the the vibe
that he really didn't want to elaborate more than that.
But so it brought up the question to me, is like,
huh is this nil stuff even for a program like
IOWA who's developmental, they're going to treat everybody the same, Like,
I don't think anybody in the IOWA program because of
this anil stuff is getting like, you know, they're shitting
(11:45):
on the walk ons or like the you know, but
the what you feel personally as a walk on versus
scholarship athlete, what you're able to do with a little
walking around money, there's a there's a little bit wider
gap now than like just a seventeen hundred dollars scholarship
check or walk on who gets zero relatively that's a
small gap versus Oh, now there's some guys that are
walking around with ten or fifteen or twenty k month and.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Some walk on guys who might not be getting anything.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I mean crazy. Yeah, I mean, are you surprised. I'm
not surprised.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
No, no, not surprised.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's just it was something where when contrasting experiences, and
I was trying to like relate because I was like, yeah,
I know what you're thinking, man, like, but you know,
we got we got to eat, finally, we got meals
all this stuff. And he's like, yeah, things are different now.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, if you're trying to say, like during our time,
like they're really especially after all the the NCAA loud
to feed us as much as they wanted, Like, there's
really no telling who is a walk on, who's a scholarship.
Like everyone's you know, treated the same walking around like
pretty much got the same deal versus Yeah, now it's
(12:55):
ten thousands of dollars, everyone pretty much knows what everyone
getting speaking of.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
At the time of this recording, keV is tomorrow the
deciding day on that case is Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Can we like listen in is there a live stream? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't I don't know I've been I've been looking
on Twitter if anybody's like, got any uh, got any
indications on how this thing's gonna turn or but I
haven't found anything.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Huh well interesting. Yeah, it was just an interesting thing
for me, the whole walk on deal.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It seemed like it seemed like there was maybe some
things that he would have liked to say, but he
was gonna hold it and be nice about it, which, uh,
which is which is his prerogative. I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna pry it out of him. So are you
gone in like five or ten, keV? Yes, okay, I won't.
(13:51):
I won't bring up the uh the starting roster. This
could just turn into a another extra g Bone and
Cluve to night. We can talk, uh talk whatever we want,
but guys are in the thick of spring ball. We
are gosh are we week three? Starting week three? I
(14:12):
believe this week?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
How's the how's the body feel about now? keV? It's
starting to hurt, starting to hurt pretty bad?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Sorry about that?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
What now in spring ball?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, yeah no, my body feels great. Yeah, guys, guys
are a little sore, you know. Second week full pads
all three days, so yeah, especially after the second Saturday
practice ramps up physicality a little bit. Yeah, they're probably
probably a little sore right now.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Did you get to see that clip on Twitter of
Wallace walking over the media got a little taste of
They got like twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You know, they'll get him a crumb, they'll throw them
a crumb in there.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, they'll the stick around for the first second practice.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, and of course, you know, Gronowski's in uniform. He's
not throwing or anything, but he's in uniform. He's taking
drop and every single photographer of course, is over there
getting pictures and videos of him and Wallace just from
one hundred yards away, has one teed up?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I actually would love to find it. But can you
find I think it was Blake Hornstein on Twitter? Find
the video of of Wallace. He you can just he's
smirking from sixty yards away because he knows he's gonna
drop this, and he's already proud of himself. Nobody cares
about the defense, Nobody wants to watch the defensive side
of the ball, and he's just holding back this shit
(15:35):
eating grin knowing that like of course, guys are gonna
be looking at Gronowski.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
No, but like, that's my head coach right there, that's
my head coach.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Someday, someday, I want that man to lead the Black
and Gold.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I want that guy here. Oh yeah, here we go. Right, yeah,
it's it.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
You can tell you got no interest in.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
No interest in the defense. And he's just like he's
got that.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's just trying to hold back the swallowing his lips,
trying to not smile because he's like so proud of
the dad joke.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's like, my goodness, man, nothing changes, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I mean, honestly, I think you can wear that as
a bad badge of pride if you're him, your phil
and your KB. It's like, there's not been a whole
lot of drama on the defensive side of the ball.
Like they just come to work at year and year
out and do their jobs. Like, okay, who's filling in
the gaps for the guys that he plays? Cool, we
expect him to do just as well as the guys
(16:45):
that left, And uh, okay, what the hell is happening
on the offensive side of the ball. Absolutely, that's kind
of Iowa media for like the last five.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Years and and you know, quite honestly, with how the
defensive backfield performed last year, you might think like, hey,
let's go get a shot of maybe maybe there are
a couple guys down there like trying to figure out, Hey,
what's that new look in the in the back five
look like back four? And obviously we looked at the
depth chart a couple couple episodes ago and what that's
gonna look like.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Heard a player I don't remember who said this, but
they interviewed a player and somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We heard Jay Higgins, we heard Nick Jackson say this.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We now have heard a third person who's still on
the team say I don't think there's going to be
a drop off hardly at all at the linebacker position.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
That's just exciting, very So, I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't know what these Carson Shire and and what's
his name, Jaden Herrel.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I don't know what they've been eating.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
In fact, I actually do know exactly what they need.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
A lot of Coach Wallace and.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh, Coach Parker, game plans drills nine on blocks.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
They've been eating a lot of that. Dude, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
They're just next in line they have to be so stoked,
they have to be so excited.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And I thought that was gonna be an eyeway council,
by the way. I thought that's what we were gonna
try and do there.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Oh, what have they been eating? What have they been
I know what, They've been eating five eggs every hour.
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When I bought a car back a few years ago,
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Speaker 2 (18:38):
And models of cars on the road. You're like, oh,
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Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's like I just bought a playground for Kinley the
other day, and now all I can see is playgrounds
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(20:17):
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Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Had my five eggs this morning, went and got more
eggs at Costco. Bought thirty six of them.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And you know what feels good.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know, it feels good when you go into the
egg section and you because you're always checking your eggs, right,
I gint.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Recently and I came home with like four broken eggs,
God damn it. Cart and then like those eggs. Usually
the clerk will check for you.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
The clerk will check for you too, but or they'll ask, hey,
did you check your eggs?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
A self checkout guy personally, and in.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Costco, you're just rolling the dice. It's like it's like
Russian roulette. And there there's a palette full of eggs.
You're like, Okay, which one am I gonna find? Where
there's no cracked eggs in here? I pulled two eighteen
packs off the box today. Both were fresh, clean, no cracks.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's a good day. That's how you know it's going
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Speaker 1 (21:09):
So, keV, we'll let you go eat your eggs, eat
your solar, eat your solar.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You have a little bit of interest in the defense, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Can somebody give a shit about the defense? Get your
pads now? See Kov.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Now always always great to be joined by always Kevin Ward.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yea our special guest. Kevin. What's his middle name? Kevin?
Surely his friend of fifteen years would know. I know,
has it been fifteen Not quite? But uh, it's hold on,
hold on. Drake's middle name is oh Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I know these, I know both of them, Drake. One
of them is Alan. No, yours is Alan. Your last
name is Alan. I'm pretty sure one of their middle
names is oh, really yeah? Is it Kevin Allen Ward?
It might creak Cynthia coolick.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
No, it's certainly not Cynthia. Breaks is Oh my god,
that's embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Many middle names, birthdays, they're all difficult.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
If you can get I would say, like, if you
can get like even the month, right I'm impressed, but
on birthdays it's difficol.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
What do you think granted as a as a as
a fan consumer on the side of this nil stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Wait, are there any answers? Like in general you just
in broad question.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
We're you just said, well, I think the general consensus
here is like.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Go from middle middle names to how do we fix
college sports? Okay, there's a couple of things. Stay on it,
stay on it all right.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I think that there's a I think each sport is different,
first of all, Like I don't, I just I think
the reality of it is that, like the nil situation
in gymnastics looks different than football. Like I just like
the way you think people like they'll get they'll get basketball.
And now we just did the crown right hey today.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It just finished up minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
And like a big part of it is like they're
paying players in the tournament. It's kind of basketball has
tournams are that we're like there's or at least to
my knowledge, because there a women's soccer tournament that's paying
players in the NCAA.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I don't think I haven't heard about it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
No, So I think like every sport's different in that way.
But I think like the main thing is they got
to get from, like they have to get rid of
this idea that they're not professional athletes.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Like it's just crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I don't think it's helping anyone, Like I think they
that's the only way you get it controlled a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
And like, I think it would help the players out
more too.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Honestly, if it was just like they got rid of
this idea they're like, oh, they're still amateurs somehow, but
they're making like one point eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Is that is that right? Now?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
What's holding back the regulation? It's like, well, they're not professionals,
so there's not really a whole lot. Yeah, that's why
you can't have like necessarily a contract contract, Okay, because
they're not considered professional athletes.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And I understand that too. It's like it.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Would be weird if, like I as a student went
to Iowa and they're like, well if you actually if
you transfer in, like you're like.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You're not allowed to leave for three years, right, Like
that would be very strange. And in theory, like me
and Owen Freeman are just both students at the university.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You're well, you're yeah, you're the same person pretty much
in every way.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's what a lot of people would
say mostly, But.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's what I've heard every time I've heard you and
Owen talked about in the same sentence. I've heard, Wow,
those guys are equally athletic.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And you're like, oh, you mean you mean grand Allen.
Oh I heard the same thing about him, right, But.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Like, in reality, that's what like the NSA wants it
to be, is that like, oh, they're just students, right,
which is it's just not how it is.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So I think they have to do that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And then once you get to that level you can
kind of work it out a little bit more of like, hey,
we'll offer you, let's say players make a million and
a half or something, right, your big recruit, All right,
we'll go, you get a million and a half if
you graduate from here, but if you leave after.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
A year, you'll get money, but you just won't get
a million and a half.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So so that's where I'm I'm with this, Which that's
it works.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It works in professional sports, it works in life and
business like it, and then we just don't apply it
to NCAA for some reason. Well, there's a there's a
and then yeah, you can do buyouts too, Like if
another school wants to buy out your contract and take you,
then sure, yeah you can do that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
That is where I'm at with it, Like it has
to almost become like a coach, like because he's coaching.
We just witnessed it with McCullum and you know, Frank Go,
you know all these people. You're like, Okay, so coaching
contracts don't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It just means it means nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, it means you get so you signed for this,
meant this much per year for this many years.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So basically, if the only thing that means is if
you want more money with that school that you're signing
the contract with, they're just setting a time limit on
which you are now waiting four or five or six
more years, so you renegotiate more. But as far as
like stepping away from that program or getting more from
somebody else or somebody buying that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Out, it means nothing. It doesn't lock you into anything.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It only locks the school in to paying you that
much every year that you're there. And so I think
with the basketball guys, and when you say a million
and a half as like a I'm just picking a number,
just picking a number, right, But that's a real number
for a lot of these guys. I mean I've seen
the I've seen the the JUSTH. Dix numbers flying around.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, that's It's it's difficult too right now because there
is no like there's no rules about how many times
you can transfer anything. So, like, I know, it's easy
to dog on people like, oh, this is this fifth
school he's been to. Like also, I don't know if
I was a top five quarterback in college football right now,
like pardon me, I would want to test the market
to every year, like yeah, I'll probably make more money
at each school go to, Like I'll probably just keep making.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
More money and then go to the NFL. Great.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
It's hard for me to tell someone like no, like hey,
eighteen year old, like, no, don't go see if you.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Can make three million dollars this show. Well that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's like, so let's let's just parlay this into the
into the NFL structure conversation where a lot of people
want this to go, like, hey, we just need to
structure this like the like the league does, and it
will solve all the problems.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
It is so weird too with college football that like now,
it's just they're making it so much like the NFL,
except for the nil portion of it all.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You like that part. They refuse to change and you
have to or.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Else it's never gonna work. So so think about it
this way. Who just got paid on the QB market? Like, uh, gosh,
who give me? Give me a recently signed like somebody.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Or last year? What did what did?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Stafford got a new contract this off season?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Howbout that?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah? That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, Stafford signs with the Rams and he makes what
what's his Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Now, you're just I don't I don't know. I don't
know all of this off the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, let me all search Stafford Rams contract.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
This is what you get on the Washington Balks podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Agreed to restructure the contract, keeping the quarterback in Los Angeles.
He is on a four year extended through twenty six.
Four year one hundred and sixty million. Jesus Christ, that's
so much money. Sixty million dollars to sign the line.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
My god, one hundred and thirty guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Now, I don't know where the guaranteed stuff comes in
on this. Like then that starts to get crazy because
you're not working with like organizations that just have money
because they're a business. You're working with like nil structures
where they're getting donors that aren't always the same every
year to year. You're getting so I don't know what
the guaranteed money looks like, if that ever becomes the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
But here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Matthew Stafford renegotiates with the Rams, or he doesn't negotiate
with anybody because he's on a contract.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Right, he could have left, he could have got out
of his contract. But what's the implication of that. Somebody
somebody lost. He probably he could have. I mean, he
just wouldn't like then the RAMS just wouldn't playing pay
him anything. You don't get own anything. That's that's that's
the whole thing is you don't get paid.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
These kids have to be on contracts where Okay, how
many years does Josh SICKX have left? Two?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Three? Eligibility wise, Yeah, I'm gonna say two. Let's say
he has two years left. Creighton says, hey, come on
over for two million dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Is that two million as he walks in the door
this summer? Or is that two million? Hey we'll pay
you two million that or you know, we'll pay you
five hundred when you get here. We'll pay you five
hundred this December. We'll pay you five hundred next summer.
We'll pay you five hundred next December. Like, is this
a structured payout, because if you're just paying these kids
up front, Hey, here's a two million dollar lump sum,
(29:32):
come play.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Ball for us, You've now lost all of your power.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, well that was the issue. And I'm not saying
this is Josh Dix's situation.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I have no idea was I'm just using him as
an example too.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
They have This is what happened back in the fall
at UNLV with like Matthew Sluka.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, like week three, the team was good.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
And they finished the season well anyway, but uh, like
the team was good, they had just beaten who was it.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I think they'd be like, I.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Think they had just beaten Kansas or something on the road. Yeah,
they had a big, solid, solid start to the year.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
And then he's like I'm done, and I was like
what why? And they was like, they promised me money
and then I was getting none of it, So why
would I play for that?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well, and that's on the other side of things.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
If if if you the player, are promised something and
then and you payment and all of a sudden the
check doesn't clear or they're not even giving you the
check and they're like, yeah, it's coming though, it's coming.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, we're going to get it to you.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah, and it sticks it in Like, I don't know,
he got a lot of crap for that, and I
understand why he got crept, but also I get his
point too in a lot of ways where it's like, yeah,
would you show up to your job if they just
didn't pay you for those months?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I was just gonna say, grand I don't know what
your pay structure is at your new big boy job,
but like, what if you did work for like the
next two weeks or a month, and then when the
pay period came around, they hit you with an email
and they're like.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We're working on it.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
We're going to get it to you, yeah, and then
be like, I think two other kids in at UNLV
left for the same reason too the next week.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
So dude, I'd be like, dude, if our sponsors, if
if somebody went to sponsor us, we signed a contract,
right and they're like Okay, we're gonna we're gonna pay you,
you know, this amount of money for this month. They
signed the dotted line, we both sign it. We're in
a contract deal which the contract has stuff, and then
and then all of a sudden they're like, yeah, we're
(31:15):
working on it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
We'll get it to you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'd be like, no, no, no, no, there's contract stuff here
that like you're you're obligated to do this.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
We can take legal action, like there's got to be
some rules around this shit.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And I don't know, I don't know why I think
you said this in the in the taglines the other day.
Football basically, I think football is so big and god
even potentially men's basketball.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I don't think, Well, here's I don't think the men's
basketball will releave it because of the postseason. Sure, but
I think and football is already halfway there with like
the way they do FBS and fcs.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
So yeah, there's that as well.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
But well, and and then you and like in basketball too,
they need like basketball, the mid majors have a higher
national presence than and for sure, you know, people to
go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
The basketball roster isn't isn't putting nearly as much pressure
on the on the on the roster sizes of both
the men's and women's amount of athletes at a school,
which are which are tying into the laws around you
know how you how how much you can give to
the the female athletes versus the men's athletes. Like if
you cut football away from the n C double A,
(32:26):
it starts to take uh, starts to take away a
few issues and.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Then they can regulate it.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I heard who did I hear?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh? I heard Chris Williams talking about and it's the
same thing that Brad told us, like these agents are
just ruining the sport basically.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of it's well one.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I think the b issue is too they're taking bigger
percentages than they huge, which.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Is like borderline highway robbery.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
And it's also too I think some of them just
it's different, like if you're an NFL player, like yeah,
dode go touch the market or whatever, cause it's like
I just get professional sports. And I was just saying
that the college could should be deemed as professionals, but
for now it's not. It's just a college experience is
really what's supposed to be right. I just have a
hard time being like, hey, dude, let's go test a
(33:12):
new college every year, then being uh like, oh hey yeah,
let's just the NFL offseason market view. I view it differently,
Like Jamar Chase and t Higgins just got signed back
to the Bengals, right sure, And now that they're signed,
I don't know how long their deals are. They're more
than there longer than a year, right in a you know,
in a year's time, or less than that, you know,
(33:33):
whenever the Bengals are bounced from the playoffs next year,
if they make it, there aren't going to be teams
coming to them. There's not going to be got their
agents aren't going to be out there talking to teams
behind people's back going hey what what what.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Do you guys want Jamar for?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
What?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
What? What will you pay Higgins? We'll see if we
can strike a deal.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Like no, he's in a contract, like he's there's there's
he's signed for money. He doesn't get that money if
he if he then bounces like they're not going to
do that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So I don't know, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I still think about all the time when I did
a when right before graduation last year when I did
an interview with jan Jensen.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I think it was like technically my last day of school. Really,
it's like that's how I did what It's the only
thing I did.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I woke up to like she wanted to do it
so early too, because I remember I was really nervous
about like missing my alarm.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I'd love to listen to that interview. It's like lost forever. Really. Yeah,
I'm kind of mad about it because it was a
with the school when it was a group thing. It's
kind of a it's a whole is it like on
a school computer somewhere in some lab? I think I
could probably.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I wonder how long it takes for my stuff to
get deleted, But it's fine in regards.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That's a different podcast. But it was.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I remember when I met her for the first time.
I was like, oh, hey, I'm grant, nice to meet you. Uh.
She's like, oh, jam pick that up. I'm aware and.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Uh she took her maybe ten seconds, just unprompted started
complaining about transfer portal andile stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Really.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, it was awesome though, Like we just like got
into it right away to and like talk like Rick Patino,
like just like basketball was awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I was like, I love jam She's the best.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Because it was too like I asked her, like, because
I believe when I met her she was on the
phone with her daughter.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I want to say sure because I think she had
just dropped her offer, was doing something. She was like, Hey,
I gotta go do this real quick.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
And then she was like, yeah, you won't believe it.
We were real busy right now. This whole thing, it's
it's a big, crazy transferportal world.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
We got out here. We're real busy. We got all
going on.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Speaking of them in the transfer portal, you know, I
Iowa hosted that. Her name was Jada Williams at Arizona.
She ended up committing to die with State, and I
think the whole thing was like, yeah, Iowa might have
showed some interest, but they obviously didn't throw her a
big bag or a huge offer.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
She also had a little tied Iowa State.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I think she played with one of those girls in
high school and like an all star team or something.
But now it's it's come out and again this is
old news, a week old. She might have committed at
this point, with how things move in the crazy transfer portal, that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Grant just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Freshman guard Avery howl Out of USC, six footer small forward.
She was like number fifteen in the recruiting class last
year in the twenty twenty four recruiting class, so the
number fifteenth ranked freshman coming into this year. She averaged
something like eight or ten points for.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
USC this year.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Who if Juju doesn't go down, has a chance to
go and win the national championship.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, she's in the portal and IOWA is reportedly in
contact with her and interested.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, it's kind of it's different too in the women's side,
because you don't really have one and don's I don't
think you can't have them.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I don't believe it's allowed, which I'm still confused about
because what's the Why is there a double standard?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I have no idea, but regardless, this just is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I didn't make the rules.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I don't know, so I kind of think my brain
would tell me that it would be smarter on the
women's side and invest more in like high school recruiting
because you can have players for longer. Sure, on the
men's side, I get like, like Rick Patino said flout,
he's like Saint John's he was like, we don't.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Have any commits in this class. Yeah, we don't need them.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Like we're just we're just gonna do the portal, Like
we got guys returning and we're gonna pick up like
three other dudes.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
And I was like, yeah, I mean it sounds crazy,
but like when in the New World, that's what you
it's what you can do. And if everyone's just gonna
go to the NBA the next year, are like, okay, fine,
So on the women's side, you can't really do that, but.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Just like this girl, you can. You can invest a
lot into this girl.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
They may have spent the last you know, USC could
have spent the last three years recruit in this chick,
and then after one year she's like, Okay, yeah, I'm
not going to the league, but I'm going somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Women in NCAA college basketball cannot enter the WNBA Draft
after just one year, unlike men due to the WNBA
draft eligibility rules. So it's not about college. It's about
the WNBA setting rule, and it's they require you to
either be a senior with all of your eligibility exhausted,
or you have to be turning twenty two in the
year that you're drafted.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think that's fair and that's fun, which is weird
because the NBA owns the WNBA. But yeah, why wouldn't
it just be this, I don't know, it's the whole time, well, you.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Know, and there's probably a I'm sure if you dig
into that, there's like a reason of like the WNBA
a long time ago is like, nah, we wanted to
stay in school, you know, like we want them to
care about their education. Also, much less of a financial
viability option for women, you know who. There's twelve teams
right now. I think there's thirteen teams with the Valkyrize
(38:27):
this year. They pay them seventy grand that that base
salary might be going forward, but like, how much of
a sustaining thing is that in your life? Even if
you play ten years in the WNBA at one hundred
grand average salary. Congratulations, you made a million bucks in
today's world if you didn't get your college degree, what
are you now going to do at thirty?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I no idea.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, like you don't have a degree. Congrats you made
a million dollars. Even if you did great in your
twenties with that money, Yeah, you need something to fall
back on, and now you don't have a college degree
because you left early. That's probably why versus in the
in the NBA, you go to the NBA, you're gonna make.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Those NBA contracts are stupid too. They have so much money,
they're insane. I would be I don't even know that.
In baseball, they have the craziest concert you find.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
You find guys you don't even know who are making
like twenty million a year.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, thirty five million dollar contracts. Unbelievable. Seventh guy off
the bench, he's averaging four and two, like yeah, and like, hey,
role players.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Are important, like, don't get me wrong, very important, especially
in the NBA. Actually, three five million dollars.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
I know Luca isn't on some crazy contract, but like
he came in the other day and shot like a
like a technical free throw.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Well, Luca's got here, she got like the MAVs screwed
him over. Like he was about to get a super
Max and now he can't. He's not eligible for it anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
He's losing, Like I think you have to be like
to get super Max. I think it's to be on
a team for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So now he's he's got to stay around him fuck
with those things. So I think he's like his max
contract that could have gotten.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
It's like now like a one hundred and fifty million
dollars less jeez Christ, like crazy, And.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Not that he's nick.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Don't get me wrong, Luca has a lot of money. Guys,
don't worry, but he's still I don't know. I would
be upset if.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I lost one hundred and fifty million dollars. Uh yeah,
not about you. I know, I know that. I know
this podcast stuffs streaming you pretty well, but we do numbies.
We don't do those, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Speaking of numbies, if you want to go help us out,
go to the YouTube channel. If you're watching, you're already there.
Not all of you are subscribed. We get a lot
the last We've had two videos in the last last
month that have gone over the number of subscribers that
we have. So if you're watching this right now, this
is the content that we post all of the time.
We're doing interviews. Actually, the stuff that me and Grant
(40:50):
are doing right now, just shooting the shit.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
This is like the least interesting stuff that we do.
There's great interviews talking to Deontay Craig.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
What you what will you offer the people if they
get us to six thousand subscribers?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
What can you offer them? You tell them.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
America as we sit right now, we're somewhere in between,
like four thousand and forty one hundred, I can give
you the live count actually as we record.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
It forty What is thirty listeners for six thousand subscribers,
I mean throw out some things.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
You know, I'm not gonna run six thousand miles or
something stupid like that. That'd be like twice across the
United States, six thousand subscribers.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Man, dude, would you eat six thousand eggs? Jesus Christ?
That's like it's like God.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Would you would you install six thousand dollars worth of
solar panels?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
That would be yeah, I mean that would be easy.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I think you know solars, you know, the whole solar
thing is is an investment. That would be I think
most people are gonna be installing six thousand, probably a
lot more, if they're going to try and get their home.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Just plastered with those solar units.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Average, by the way, they have a thirty year warranty
on those things thirty years. You get those solar modules
up on your home, you are just that son is
cooking and you are you are cooking. At that point,
you could probably go up there and fry the egg
on the panel. I don't suggest it. I don't think
either the EWAG Council or Eagle Point Solar wants you
to do that. I'm saying you might be able to
(42:22):
if it was necessary, if it was a last ditch kind.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Of thing, last person on Earth.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
You're just grinding eggs on solar panels six thousand, Grant,
I don't know. I is there something small I could eat?
I just can't eat six thousand of anything?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Can I don't know if I want to see a
video of you eating things either, We'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I know.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Well, we've hopped on here before a couple of times,
like before we had the record button, and I'm eating
like a yogurt or something.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Grant's like, I don't want to see that. I can't
do that. It's horribly disgusting. Is that like your biggest pet, peeve?
Uh No, I don't know what is my biggest one.
It's I don't run into that often. Enough for it
to be a huge deal to me. Keah isn't doesn't
bother me too much.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Six thousand, six thousand you so leave a comment to
six thousand.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Curls on one side, my arm would be so fucked.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
But yeah, maybe that's five pound weight. Yeah, to get
at like a one pound only your left arm, though
you're not allowed to switch arms.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
My left arm is actually stronger. I don't know why,
but yeah, something like that. That's a that's a good suggestion.
I need suggestions in the comments down below.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
And this is how we know you made it to
forty four minutes in this video? Did you swim six
thousand meters? That almost four miles sixty four hundred meters? Actually,
I don't want to watch that.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
They're probably pretty I think, who Kevin, who swims like?
You're like your average person who wasn't a collegiate swimmer
or like a like a club swimmer. I think your average,
like good like average person can like swim a thirty
minute mile. I'm not your average person, so that's gonna
take me like fifty minutes maybe an hour to swim
(44:02):
a mile.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Would you would you purchase six thousand tickets?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Buddy, an hour. I okay, Well, here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Actually, I saw like I got like buy a whole section,
like the cheapest ticket to an IYO of football games,
like what sixty or seventy bucks.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
I mean we're talking like sounds right. It depends on
the game, but I.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Mean, dude, we're looking at like forty two grand or
something like that. I like we're now getting in the
range of like what I make in a year. You know,
just like hey, yeah, if you guys get us to
six thousand subscribers, I'll just I'll blow the entire amount of.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
That's my entire mouth. I would like to do a
I saw like Barstool does.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
It's like ice con where they all go to one game,
like they'll go to like one hockey game. It's just
like a pack of forty in one section. It would
be do we should do like a coover Clover con
or something.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's like a Iowa io a football game. Sixty people
in one section.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
In Jesus God, I don't know, six thousand is something.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Come up with it? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I don't have much else left tonight because I was
hoping Kevin was going to be able to do this,
and we were gonna do the.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Uh the draft.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
He's now done it twice where he's like, no, sorry,
I can't the draft of what like the twenty thirteen
to twenty seventeen you have to draft, not draft, but
you have to name your starting lineup. Oh you get
you get one quarterback, one punter, one kicker, one holder,
one long snapper, two running backs, a full back.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
But there's only guys that you played with.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Two tight ends, only guys that were there at the
same time that me, Drake.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
And Kevin were there. Oh, I think you got to
expand it to now. I'm gonna be honest, you think
we have to go all the way to now? So
like the last decade basically, Yeah, I think that's a
better list.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
It's more interesting guys from the year we walked into
right now.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, I think that's a better list. Oh, that becomes
a whole lot harder.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
I think it becomes. Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying.
I think it becomes more contentious. I think you got
a boost those babies up. Wow, you gotta throw it
in there, because then you got sneaky.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Too, like you gotta. Yeah, especially the I mean I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
You like running back. I think you could do it
pretty quickly. But like often, the line would be troubling.
Your stars started the line.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
And you get real tricky. Line would be real tough. Yeah,
I don't even know. I don't know if i'd put
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
You know where it's gonna get real hard, Petris, give
me pada.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I was just someone's just talking to me about ox video.
Give me give me case idea padilla.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
All right, I should actually I should put my my
glorious king Jackson Stratton up in there.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Give me, dude, give me Shaggy. Is he still around?
Please tell me he's still in. Though he's still he
didn't leave. Let's figure it out. I want so let's
look Liker. You know, I didn't see him in the
uh or maybe I did see him, I just didn't
recognize him.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
But I loved how everyone was analyzing that one uh
Blake Horansteine video like it was the Zapruder film.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
One drop.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Of Like, well, his angle of his knee looks pretty
good there. I think he's actually ahead a schedule.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
They love doing that in football. Not it's like us
the video of a quarterback. He's probably need to play football. Yeah,
somebody kill me that. People are so stupid. Jimmy Sullivan
freshman right there, I was.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I mean, god, there's a lot of exciting dude, there's
so much exciting things to be excited about as we
get I don't.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Know, this is gonna be a fun uh summer of
This is going to be an incredible summer because there's
so much like lead up and potential.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Like I told you, Summer of Grant, That's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Drew Campbell, that kid, Jack's brother, he's going into his
second year.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
He could be an animal. He really knows. Who knows,
he said about anyone, Like you could pick any doing
on the roster. I could tell you. I could confirm
it could be an animal. Well we're oh, yeah, there
we go.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Jackson Stratton, Mission Bay, California, Colorado State.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Let's get him on. He's a I know he's got
podcast abilities.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
He went, he went, He went twenty one of thirty
five this season with a long of seventy two.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Dude, I'm telling you that that first drive versus UCLA,
I was like, Oh, he's way better than he should be.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I was like, he's like this is this is oddly good.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
Well, also, that was when they were selling us on
the fact they were selling us on the idea that
he was a Scout Team linebacker. Yeah, and I like
we talked about that week through, like, oh, Scout team linebacker.
Apparently it's the backup, Like we really got to make
sure Silivan doesn't get hurt this game. Yeah, and you
tell me scouting linebacker. Look, I'm not picturing like Jack
Campbell size. I'm picturing like a slightly smaller Jack Campbell
(48:39):
throwing like a awful spiral and just like like not
even doesn't have the seams on it.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
It's like spinning sideways like a disc. Like just just
that's what I was picturing.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
It looks like you gave the football to someone who's
never played the sport.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yeah, but like Jack's trade, you could tell too, it's like, okay,
people his QB.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
I wish people would have listened to our podcast about that,
because we tried to tell people, yes, he's a quarterback.
He knows how to play football at the quarterback position.
It's just where he's been lining up as a body
for the past couple of weeks. Was at Scout Team linebacker.
He is not a Scout Team linebacker. He is a
quarterback playing Scout team linebacker.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
I mean, you guys, you guys were saying that to me,
but my brain just refused to believe it too, because
it must it was so much funnier if he was
a Scout Team linebacker like that. That would have made it
so much better. Like I didn't, I didn't genuinely force
myself to accept it as.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Fact until like the bowl game probably it's like, no, dude,
we actually had a linebacker out there. Yeah, you know,
I don't know. I'd like to see some Soley though
I like to see him. Uh oh dude. Still, we
gotta you.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Can't go full solely. We gotta I need like a
full Soully. Once you go full Solly, you can't ever
go back. We need like uh in terms of Sullivan levels,
I needed like eighty percent Sullivan because.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I still want a little bit that crazy. But sometimes
it gets too crazy.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
We certainly can't have one hundred Sully because we get
what happens in the UCLA game where he runs his
face into a mac truck.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
But then I also you get the play like he
had against Missouri where he runs around the stadium twice
and then dives in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Facts.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
You're right, You're right, sick play man, I mean absolutely
sick play.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
Yeah, we have a we have a lot of exciting
things though the football program.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Dude, the lead up to this season is going to
be fun. Schedule too this year? Oh yeah, dude, Oregan.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
What's crazy is we have I don't know what it
will be, what the line will be when we play Indiana.
I'm gonna assume, like if everything goes, if anything goes
as plan, we'll probably will be underdogs to them.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
But I don't know. Things can change. Who knows, but
I think, uh.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Like every game will be underdogs in we'll be against
a team those in the playoff last year.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, and then we could be favorite. I bet you
were like a two and a half point favorite O
where I was guess. I don't know. Week two, we
don't one a half point favorite. You're guessing that right now?
Guess the line share? Why not?
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Do you think they got a future on that? They probably?
Speaker 4 (51:12):
The April lines are never accurate for what it's actually
going to be. I saw someone posted like week one
lines Norda versus Miami. It's like Norda minus one. Well,
that's just not gonna be.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
It's like, okay, well, I don't know where you're getting at.
So you know, I think I think people generally think
that Iowa State is going to be like pretty good.
I mean they're returning back to right. Yes, yeah, I
mean I get is this oh no, that was one
and a half.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
They're supposed to be pretty good this year too. We
were it was the same line. I think we were
like a one and a half or two point favorite.
Is this is this real? Am I finding the actual?
I think I don't know what you're looking at. Iowa
minus two and a half.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
Yeah, it seems I think I I think I think
this is for and the spread for ninety percent of
IAS games in the past, it's two and a half.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Four years is minus two and a half. Yeah, you
know you're right. You're right. It's either that or like
plus eighteen to Ohio State plus. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah, we were plus plus twenty four.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I believe I'll take it every time.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, I ain't got nothing else. We won't ramble too
much longer than this. We we are eventually going to
do that draft. Hopefully we have a guest coming on
next episode, another recent graduate and guy.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Who's looking to make the league.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
And I'm not gonna say the name because Grant's all
about me, not jink jinxing things. And if you are
a Patreon member patreon dot com slash Washing Up walk Ons,
I'll bring the old I'll.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Bring the old QR code.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
If you want to join the army, leave that up
here in the corner. H you would have heard last Friday,
I jinxed like three or four different things on that.
On that episode, Grant was just shambles. He's like, dude,
I can't even be here with you.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
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Today we talk a little bit of springball. Kevin's in
for twenty minutes and he has to bounce. Grant and
I take over. We discuss if Nil and the portal
have already an under four years killed college sports. Fun
(00:20):
conversation that will continue.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's have a day, Let's go welcome in.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Time is limited, Kevin Ward is only around for so
long as time is valuable. Sunshine into the office as
Kevin reads over his studies, Rose bull placard in the background,
fading as the years go on. Twenty fifteen team will
be remembered as if we all passed away that later this.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Year at the Oregon game. But we haven't.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
We're here, still live, still kicking, got murdered that game.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, Now, I think I think we're recognizing the Big
ten West championship. We're not recognizing the Rose Bowl that
that never happened. We never played there.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's certainly the result is essentially the same.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It is as if we never showed up, still won
the second half people forget that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Did we win the second half? I'm sure as fuck did.
The big college football media does not want you to
know that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
They don't want they don't want you to know that
we actually we won thirty minutes of football there, Hey,
you guys didn't lose.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You just ran out of time. That is not true. True.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
They could have on that day, grant, they could have
just whooped our ass for eight quarters.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like you're telling me, there's no chance.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Let's say they extended the game to like four and
a half hours. Well, it was already probably two and
a half or three no game time. Oh, it's the
game time.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, So it's like we ran an extra eight quarters
to this game. You think there's no chance you could
have chipped away a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So the final scores forty five to sixteen. It was
thirty five nothing at half, so you know we were
we were gaining six points every thirty minutes, so we
were down another We need what's that twenty nine points?
So we needed another five halves of football.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And another two and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, yeah, assuming that we got away.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So lucky, they're so lucky. There wasn't five five quarters.
So the razor thin edge. There just just ten more quarters.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Could you imagine if that's how the final game, like,
if that's how the championship game was played. The National
Championship is actually played in unlimited quarters full like full
medieval battle mode. You go until your players are no
longer able, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Side thought, what if football was.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Played until a certain score, like you always played until
one hundred first one hundred wins.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Are there any sports like that?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, then I think we would say tennis, you can hit.
That's not how tennis works.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But not really kind of but not really.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You have to win, uh, you have to win by two,
you have to win sets. Yeah, and tennis, Yeah, but
each game is.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Played to like it's the closest thing, right, Like the
score resets after each.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
There's yeah in ping pong, yeah yeah, played at twenty
one ping pong.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean yeah, ping pong, cornet bowling.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Bowling is a set amount of frame. I guess that's
just like quarters of set amount of time you could
I mean, what would you said, what would what would
the number be? I don't know because some games, I mean,
Ohio State would have beat Oregon in the first quarter
in that in that playoff game.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
If you said it at one hundred two, Deacon Hill
might still be playing now.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
No, he still at one hundred for that San Diego
State Iowa game of South South to South Dakota State
Iowa game.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Bro, We'd still be playing that game. It'd still be there.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Jack Campbell would still be getting safeties as we as
we do this podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Just forty safeties later.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Just unbelievable stat.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Jack Campbell finished the game three hundred and sixteen tackles,
thirty two safeties.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Be amazing. Yeah, I don't know, it would be fun.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You just play like it would completely devalue defense though
it just yeah, doesn't cricket Like, don't they have some
unbelievably long games?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I think they changed the uh like the game, like
the scoring system and like there's like limited rounds now
like oh there's like verge is the game that can
go like in.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Less than three hours?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Now I think I would hope. So, I mean I
think like, yes, the original version, I mean the games
would go on for like days, could go wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, extremely that's insane.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
As a spectator, you go home, I'd come back. I mean,
what are you what are we talking about here? I mean,
think of how trash you could be in the stands.
I mean the concessions that those things must be pulling
in unbelievable numbers.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Welcome into everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Brought to you by Eagle Points, Solar and the IWAG Council.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We're happy to be here tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Not not any huge topic on the menu. Like I said,
Kevin might have to bounce here in fifteen minutes. He's
working them in, as is Grant, which is why with
this podcast we're on our toes.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Grant probably won't have to bounce.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
There's no orthodontical trauma that Grant has to be gone for.
But got a couple of things on the menu tonight.
Paige Becker's is officially better than Kitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
She's a national championship. That's how it works, That's how that's.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's just how it works, right, teach their own rings
are rings are the only thing that matter, right, Grant?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I mean, yeah, I've always said Bill Russell greatest NBA
player ever, right, greatest basketball player of all time?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, that's how it's it all works. What does he
have ten rings? Eleven? I think he is eleven. I
believe he's won eleven championships, which is still crazy. It's
all right, and that wasn't a dig at Bill Russell.
He's one of the greatest ever.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But yeah, I mean he was playing against plumbers and
m it is. I think it's more crazy too, like
they showed, uh, just how it's insane how many championships
Ukon has won on the women's side of just oh yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's it's absolutely insane. Like Gino's up.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I mean, Gino's up there is one of the greatest
basketball coaches of all time as well, is with what
he has accomplished.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Absolutely, I mean, uh, we're talking about this. I this
is not the focus of tonight. I was a joke
to bring this in, but we are recording this about
a week early on Sunday, after that championship game has
been played. And I mean Gino and Yukon, we're talking
about like modern sports history, their dynasties up there with
like name a team.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Think I think he'd said he's been to he's been
to the Natty like twelve times and only lost once.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Or something like that. That could be a wrong stat
I think I saw some of the nuts like that
tough and they just dominated. They didn't. It wasn't even close.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I mean, for Page Beckers, it must be nice to
have two other players that are better than her.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You know, on the team.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'd be lying if I said I watched a ton
of Yukon women's basketball this year. I'm just being honest,
Like I didn't even I didn't see the game today.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Page was the third best scorer in today's game as
two other girls went for like twenty five, So they
won by a lot, right, they won by like twenty
six or thirty or something like.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That wasn't even close.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I was on a barbecue mission. I was really I
was exploring the barbecue the state.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Of Texas instead. That was what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Like you were like out at locations buying barbecue, or
you're trying to like singular location.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Barbecue is quite expensive, it turns out, so we got
to which we're in a slow grind to figure it
all out.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You could probably hit Kevin up. Kevin's in his meat era,
his meat grilling era.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okavi, do you know do you know how to smoke
like brisket? Do you know how to smoke meat? Are
you smoking meats?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, smoking some meats what do you well, what's your do? Tell?
Go go into detail?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
What do you want to know?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I got one to know what kind of meats that
were smoking, and we're getting good at it.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
What's kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The I mean, yeah, there's a little things that you
need to pick up here and there, but it's really
not that hard, especially if you have like a pellet
grilly just following directions really okay, Yeah, I get that.
I like I like smoking ris Probably I can hear
it too, smoking up pork, but it's probably the easiest.
(08:43):
H I would not start with the brisket if you're
just getting into it, okay, but.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I probably I probably got a little bit of time too.
I don't think my apartment is meant for smoking meats
right now. I'm gonna be I don't think it. I
don't think it would go great.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Probably shouldn't do that in the apartment all the way, Yeah,
I don't. I don't think my neighbors would love that,
but I think we'll get there with that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Is, if you're planning on eating what you're smoking that day,
you're gonna have to set an alarm to wake up
in the morning, especially if it's like a brisket. That
thing takes, depending how big it is, upwards of fourteen hours.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, I was gonna say this is it's a it's
a long haul, it's a big project.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Oh yeah big that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
A couple of things that I wanted to talk about today,
and one of them is from our last podcast. Grant
Kevin wasn't able to make it, but we talked to
the one and only Max White. You guys have just
heard that podcast previous to this one for the listeners,
and keV I brought up, you know, he's a walk on,
and we kind of talked about his journey to Iowa,
and he brought up how or I brought up to him,
(09:42):
how it must have felt good to get into Iowa
and start to see how things were working, see how
people are treated, realize, oh wow, this is a this
is the place to be if you're a walk on.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
This is where you want to be, if.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You want to be treated as an equal, you know,
like you get the same food, you get the same
all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And Grant tell me if.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm wrong here, but his his answer was a will
hesitant to a grief fully with that sentiment.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, I don't know, I think it's just a
I don't think he completely agree, like fully agreed or
fully disagreed.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think I was just saying that it's, uh, it's
a I don't even know a ton of how to
put words. I think he had a similar experience to
you guys, like I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I think, uh, it's like equal opportunity, but yeah, like
scarship guys are probably gonna get a quicker chance. It's
just kind of I interpreted it like, I don't think
it was anything totally different from what you guys have
always said.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think his response though more so in what he
was referring to when it comes to the nil stuff.
He kind of looked at us and it was like, yeah,
as far as guys are getting paid, and that's me.
So what I'm getting at keV is it sounds like
on the inside, this the money that's starting to go
around is starting to be pretty significant, like not just
the top guys, like even what the guys in the
(10:51):
middle are getting because of what the collective can do,
the way that our collective is set up, Guys who
are on scholarship have more opportunities to earn. Guys who
are older have more opportunity to needs to earn that
number is bigger and I like that structure.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, it's a Brads totos sometimes he's been.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
On there, yep.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And but what I got from Max was, Man, if
you're a walk on, things aren't the same. Man, Like,
there's been a gap that's been reintroduced as far.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
As uh, the haves and the haves nots. Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That And Max didn't he gave off the the vibe
that he really didn't want to elaborate more than that.
But so it brought up the question to me, is like,
huh is this nil stuff even for a program like
IOWA who's developmental, they're going to treat everybody the same, Like,
I don't think anybody in the IOWA program because of
this anil stuff is getting like, you know, they're shitting
(11:45):
on the walk ons or like the you know, but
the what you feel personally as a walk on versus
scholarship athlete, what you're able to do with a little
walking around money, there's a there's a little bit wider
gap now than like just a seventeen hundred dollars scholarship
check or walk on who gets zero relatively that's a
small gap versus Oh, now there's some guys that are
walking around with ten or fifteen or twenty k month and.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Some walk on guys who might not be getting anything.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I mean crazy. Yeah, I mean, are you surprised. I'm
not surprised.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
No, no, not surprised.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's just it was something where when contrasting experiences, and
I was trying to like relate because I was like, yeah,
I know what you're thinking, man, like, but you know,
we got we got to eat, finally, we got meals
all this stuff. And he's like, yeah, things are different now.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, if you're trying to say, like during our time,
like they're really especially after all the the NCAA loud
to feed us as much as they wanted, Like, there's
really no telling who is a walk on, who's a scholarship.
Like everyone's you know, treated the same walking around like
pretty much got the same deal versus Yeah, now it's
(12:55):
ten thousands of dollars, everyone pretty much knows what everyone
getting speaking of.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
At the time of this recording, keV is tomorrow the
deciding day on that case is Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Can we like listen in is there a live stream? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't I don't know I've been I've been looking
on Twitter if anybody's like, got any uh, got any
indications on how this thing's gonna turn or but I
haven't found anything.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Huh well interesting. Yeah, it was just an interesting thing
for me, the whole walk on deal.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It seemed like it seemed like there was maybe some
things that he would have liked to say, but he
was gonna hold it and be nice about it, which, uh,
which is which is his prerogative. I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna pry it out of him. So are you
gone in like five or ten, keV? Yes, okay, I won't.
(13:51):
I won't bring up the uh the starting roster. This
could just turn into a another extra g Bone and
Cluve to night. We can talk, uh talk whatever we want,
but guys are in the thick of spring ball. We
are gosh are we week three? Starting week three? I
(14:12):
believe this week?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
How's the how's the body feel about now? keV? It's
starting to hurt, starting to hurt pretty bad?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Sorry about that?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
What now in spring ball?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, yeah no, my body feels great. Yeah, guys, guys
are a little sore, you know. Second week full pads
all three days, so yeah, especially after the second Saturday
practice ramps up physicality a little bit. Yeah, they're probably
probably a little sore right now.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Did you get to see that clip on Twitter of
Wallace walking over the media got a little taste of
They got like twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You know, they'll get him a crumb, they'll throw them
a crumb in there.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, they'll the stick around for the first second practice.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, and of course, you know, Gronowski's in uniform. He's
not throwing or anything, but he's in uniform. He's taking
drop and every single photographer of course, is over there
getting pictures and videos of him and Wallace just from
one hundred yards away, has one teed up?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I actually would love to find it. But can you
find I think it was Blake Hornstein on Twitter? Find
the video of of Wallace. He you can just he's
smirking from sixty yards away because he knows he's gonna
drop this, and he's already proud of himself. Nobody cares
about the defense, Nobody wants to watch the defensive side
of the ball, and he's just holding back this shit
(15:35):
eating grin knowing that like of course, guys are gonna
be looking at Gronowski.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
No, but like, that's my head coach right there, that's
my head coach.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Someday, someday, I want that man to lead the Black
and Gold.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I want that guy here. Oh yeah, here we go. Right, yeah,
it's it.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
You can tell you got no interest in.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
No interest in the defense. And he's just like he's
got that.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's just trying to hold back the swallowing his lips,
trying to not smile because he's like so proud of
the dad joke.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's like, my goodness, man, nothing changes, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I mean, honestly, I think you can wear that as
a bad badge of pride if you're him, your phil
and your KB. It's like, there's not been a whole
lot of drama on the defensive side of the ball.
Like they just come to work at year and year
out and do their jobs. Like, okay, who's filling in
the gaps for the guys that he plays? Cool, we
expect him to do just as well as the guys
(16:45):
that left, And uh, okay, what the hell is happening
on the offensive side of the ball. Absolutely, that's kind
of Iowa media for like the last five.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Years and and you know, quite honestly, with how the
defensive backfield performed last year, you might think like, hey,
let's go get a shot of maybe maybe there are
a couple guys down there like trying to figure out, Hey,
what's that new look in the in the back five
look like back four? And obviously we looked at the
depth chart a couple couple episodes ago and what that's
gonna look like.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Heard a player I don't remember who said this, but
they interviewed a player and somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We heard Jay Higgins, we heard Nick Jackson say this.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We now have heard a third person who's still on
the team say I don't think there's going to be
a drop off hardly at all at the linebacker position.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
That's just exciting, very So, I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't know what these Carson Shire and and what's
his name, Jaden Herrel.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I don't know what they've been eating.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
In fact, I actually do know exactly what they need.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
A lot of Coach Wallace and.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh, Coach Parker, game plans drills nine on blocks.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
They've been eating a lot of that. Dude, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
They're just next in line they have to be so stoked,
they have to be so excited.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And I thought that was gonna be an eyeway council,
by the way. I thought that's what we were gonna
try and do there.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Oh, what have they been eating? What have they been
I know what, They've been eating five eggs every hour.
Solar that's what they've been eating. They've been eating solar panels.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
They've been eating a whole lot of information on saving
energy with eagle points solar.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know what's crazy though about about the solar thing
is is now that it's relevant.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Suh. This this always happens.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
When I bought a car back a few years ago,
it's like now, now all of a sudden, all you
see is like makes.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And models of cars on the road. You're like, oh,
what's that? Do I want one of those?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's like I just bought a playground for Kinley the
other day, and now all I can see is playgrounds
in people's backyards.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's like, you know, modelisque playground? Good stuff there at
the Johnson household.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's the Excel version the power wall. Yeah, that one's
got a double side, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And it's like, now now that we have soler, you know,
eagle point shout out to them bringing you the sun. Now,
every house or building that has solar panels on it,
I like, I do a double take.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I'm like, oh shit, they got it. They're the ones.
Look at them. Are those smart motherfuckers right there?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Do you think would Eagle points Sol would be mad
if we just start saying, like, wash up, walk on
is presented by the sun.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
We're just represented by brought to you by Eagle point.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Solar, just by the sun. And then the sun is
brought to you by Eagle.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Point Solar, which it literally says it. And they're right
there on the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Hey, give us the thumbs up, give us one of
those like button thumbs ups.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
We might we might need to adjust the graphic here
because you can't even like I can't even read half
the Eagle point Solar.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, that's that's because your brightness isn't high enough.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Sorry, jeez, that's on you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
But you know what could brighten your day is the
sun and solar energy.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And maybe they're free solar analysis.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Send them your send them your bills, see if you
can save some money, and then with that money you
go buy eggs, you go buy more eggs, and actually
you buy stock markets down a little bit right now,
you buy some of that too, you buy that dip.
And we're not sponsored by the stock market. I wish
we were. But you buy more eggs, you eat those eggs,
(20:17):
you grow a healthier body. The eyew Eg Council and
Eagle Points Solar, they benefit.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Had my five eggs this morning, went and got more
eggs at Costco. Bought thirty six of them.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And you know what feels good.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know, it feels good when you go into the
egg section and you because you're always checking your eggs, right,
I gint.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Recently and I came home with like four broken eggs,
God damn it. Cart and then like those eggs. Usually
the clerk will check for you.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
The clerk will check for you too, but or they'll ask, hey,
did you check your eggs?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
A self checkout guy personally, and in.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Costco, you're just rolling the dice. It's like it's like
Russian roulette. And there there's a palette full of eggs.
You're like, Okay, which one am I gonna find? Where
there's no cracked eggs in here? I pulled two eighteen
packs off the box today. Both were fresh, clean, no cracks.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's a good day. That's how you know it's going
to be a good day. With the palette of eggs.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So, keV, we'll let you go eat your eggs, eat
your solar, eat your solar.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You have a little bit of interest in the defense, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Can somebody give a shit about the defense? Get your
pads now? See Kov.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Now always always great to be joined by always Kevin Ward.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yea our special guest. Kevin. What's his middle name? Kevin?
Surely his friend of fifteen years would know. I know,
has it been fifteen Not quite? But uh, it's hold on,
hold on. Drake's middle name is oh Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I know these, I know both of them, Drake. One
of them is Alan. No, yours is Alan. Your last
name is Alan. I'm pretty sure one of their middle
names is oh, really yeah? Is it Kevin Allen Ward?
It might creak Cynthia coolick.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
No, it's certainly not Cynthia. Breaks is Oh my god,
that's embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Many middle names, birthdays, they're all difficult.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
If you can get I would say, like, if you
can get like even the month, right I'm impressed, but
on birthdays it's difficol.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
What do you think granted as a as a as
a fan consumer on the side of this nil stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Wait, are there any answers? Like in general you just
in broad question.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
We're you just said, well, I think the general consensus
here is like.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Go from middle middle names to how do we fix
college sports? Okay, there's a couple of things. Stay on it,
stay on it all right.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I think that there's a I think each sport is different,
first of all, Like I don't, I just I think
the reality of it is that, like the nil situation
in gymnastics looks different than football. Like I just like
the way you think people like they'll get they'll get basketball.
And now we just did the crown right hey today.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It just finished up minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
And like a big part of it is like they're
paying players in the tournament. It's kind of basketball has
tournams are that we're like there's or at least to
my knowledge, because there a women's soccer tournament that's paying
players in the NCAA.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I don't think I haven't heard about it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
No, So I think like every sport's different in that way.
But I think like the main thing is they got
to get from, like they have to get rid of
this idea that they're not professional athletes.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Like it's just crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I don't think it's helping anyone, Like I think they
that's the only way you get it controlled a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
And like, I think it would help the players out
more too.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Honestly, if it was just like they got rid of
this idea they're like, oh, they're still amateurs somehow, but
they're making like one point eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Is that is that right? Now?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
What's holding back the regulation? It's like, well, they're not professionals,
so there's not really a whole lot. Yeah, that's why
you can't have like necessarily a contract contract, Okay, because
they're not considered professional athletes.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And I understand that too. It's like it.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Would be weird if, like I as a student went
to Iowa and they're like, well if you actually if
you transfer in, like you're like.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You're not allowed to leave for three years, right, Like
that would be very strange. And in theory, like me
and Owen Freeman are just both students at the university.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You're well, you're yeah, you're the same person pretty much
in every way.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's what a lot of people would
say mostly, But.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's what I've heard every time I've heard you and
Owen talked about in the same sentence. I've heard, Wow,
those guys are equally athletic.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And you're like, oh, you mean you mean grand Allen.
Oh I heard the same thing about him, right, But.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Like, in reality, that's what like the NSA wants it
to be, is that like, oh, they're just students, right,
which is it's just not how it is.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So I think they have to do that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And then once you get to that level you can
kind of work it out a little bit more of like, hey,
we'll offer you, let's say players make a million and
a half or something, right, your big recruit, All right,
we'll go, you get a million and a half if
you graduate from here, but if you leave after.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
A year, you'll get money, but you just won't get
a million and a half.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So so that's where I'm I'm with this, Which that's
it works.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It works in professional sports, it works in life and
business like it, and then we just don't apply it
to NCAA for some reason. Well, there's a there's a
and then yeah, you can do buyouts too, Like if
another school wants to buy out your contract and take you,
then sure, yeah you can do that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
That is where I'm at with it, Like it has
to almost become like a coach, like because he's coaching.
We just witnessed it with McCullum and you know, Frank Go,
you know all these people. You're like, Okay, so coaching
contracts don't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It just means it means nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, it means you get so you signed for this,
meant this much per year for this many years.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So basically, if the only thing that means is if
you want more money with that school that you're signing
the contract with, they're just setting a time limit on
which you are now waiting four or five or six
more years, so you renegotiate more. But as far as
like stepping away from that program or getting more from
somebody else or somebody buying that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Out, it means nothing. It doesn't lock you into anything.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It only locks the school in to paying you that
much every year that you're there. And so I think
with the basketball guys, and when you say a million
and a half as like a I'm just picking a number,
just picking a number, right, But that's a real number
for a lot of these guys. I mean I've seen
the I've seen the the JUSTH. Dix numbers flying around.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, that's It's it's difficult too right now because there
is no like there's no rules about how many times
you can transfer anything. So, like, I know, it's easy
to dog on people like, oh, this is this fifth
school he's been to. Like also, I don't know if
I was a top five quarterback in college football right now,
like pardon me, I would want to test the market
to every year, like yeah, I'll probably make more money
at each school go to, Like I'll probably just keep making.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
More money and then go to the NFL. Great.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
It's hard for me to tell someone like no, like hey,
eighteen year old, like, no, don't go see if you.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Can make three million dollars this show. Well that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's like, so let's let's just parlay this into the
into the NFL structure conversation where a lot of people
want this to go, like, hey, we just need to
structure this like the like the league does, and it
will solve all the problems.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
It is so weird too with college football that like now,
it's just they're making it so much like the NFL,
except for the nil portion of it all.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You like that part. They refuse to change and you
have to or.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Else it's never gonna work. So so think about it
this way. Who just got paid on the QB market? Like, uh, gosh,
who give me? Give me a recently signed like somebody.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Or last year? What did what did?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Stafford got a new contract this off season?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Howbout that?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah? That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, Stafford signs with the Rams and he makes what
what's his Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Now, you're just I don't I don't know. I don't
know all of this off the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, let me all search Stafford Rams contract.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
This is what you get on the Washington Balks podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Agreed to restructure the contract, keeping the quarterback in Los Angeles.
He is on a four year extended through twenty six.
Four year one hundred and sixty million. Jesus Christ, that's
so much money. Sixty million dollars to sign the line.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
My god, one hundred and thirty guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Now, I don't know where the guaranteed stuff comes in
on this. Like then that starts to get crazy because
you're not working with like organizations that just have money
because they're a business. You're working with like nil structures
where they're getting donors that aren't always the same every
year to year. You're getting so I don't know what
the guaranteed money looks like, if that ever becomes the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
But here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Matthew Stafford renegotiates with the Rams, or he doesn't negotiate
with anybody because he's on a contract.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Right, he could have left, he could have got out
of his contract. But what's the implication of that. Somebody
somebody lost. He probably he could have. I mean, he
just wouldn't like then the RAMS just wouldn't playing pay
him anything. You don't get own anything. That's that's that's
the whole thing is you don't get paid.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
These kids have to be on contracts where Okay, how
many years does Josh SICKX have left? Two?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Three? Eligibility wise, Yeah, I'm gonna say two. Let's say
he has two years left. Creighton says, hey, come on
over for two million dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Is that two million as he walks in the door
this summer? Or is that two million? Hey we'll pay
you two million that or you know, we'll pay you
five hundred when you get here. We'll pay you five
hundred this December. We'll pay you five hundred next summer.
We'll pay you five hundred next December. Like, is this
a structured payout, because if you're just paying these kids
up front, Hey, here's a two million dollar lump sum,
(29:32):
come play.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Ball for us, You've now lost all of your power.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, well that was the issue. And I'm not saying
this is Josh Dix's situation.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I have no idea was I'm just using him as
an example too.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
They have This is what happened back in the fall
at UNLV with like Matthew Sluka.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, like week three, the team was good.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
And they finished the season well anyway, but uh, like
the team was good, they had just beaten who was it.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I think they'd be like, I.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Think they had just beaten Kansas or something on the road. Yeah,
they had a big, solid, solid start to the year.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
And then he's like I'm done, and I was like
what why? And they was like, they promised me money
and then I was getting none of it, So why
would I play for that?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well, and that's on the other side of things.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
If if if you the player, are promised something and
then and you payment and all of a sudden the
check doesn't clear or they're not even giving you the
check and they're like, yeah, it's coming though, it's coming.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, we're going to get it to you.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah, and it sticks it in Like, I don't know,
he got a lot of crap for that, and I
understand why he got crept, but also I get his
point too in a lot of ways where it's like, yeah,
would you show up to your job if they just
didn't pay you for those months?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I was just gonna say, grand I don't know what
your pay structure is at your new big boy job,
but like, what if you did work for like the
next two weeks or a month, and then when the
pay period came around, they hit you with an email
and they're like.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We're working on it.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
We're going to get it to you, yeah, and then
be like, I think two other kids in at UNLV
left for the same reason too the next week.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
So dude, I'd be like, dude, if our sponsors, if
if somebody went to sponsor us, we signed a contract,
right and they're like Okay, we're gonna we're gonna pay you,
you know, this amount of money for this month. They
signed the dotted line, we both sign it. We're in
a contract deal which the contract has stuff, and then
and then all of a sudden they're like, yeah, we're
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working on it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
We'll get it to you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'd be like, no, no, no, no, there's contract stuff here
that like you're you're obligated to do this.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
We can take legal action, like there's got to be
some rules around this shit.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And I don't know, I don't know why I think
you said this in the in the taglines the other day.
Football basically, I think football is so big and god
even potentially men's basketball.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I don't think, Well, here's I don't think the men's
basketball will releave it because of the postseason. Sure, but
I think and football is already halfway there with like
the way they do FBS and fcs.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
So yeah, there's that as well.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
But well, and and then you and like in basketball too,
they need like basketball, the mid majors have a higher
national presence than and for sure, you know, people to
go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
The basketball roster isn't isn't putting nearly as much pressure
on the on the on the roster sizes of both
the men's and women's amount of athletes at a school,
which are which are tying into the laws around you
know how you how how much you can give to
the the female athletes versus the men's athletes. Like if
you cut football away from the n C double A,
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it starts to take uh, starts to take away a
few issues and.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Then they can regulate it.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I heard who did I hear?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh? I heard Chris Williams talking about and it's the
same thing that Brad told us, like these agents are
just ruining the sport basically.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of it's well one.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I think the b issue is too they're taking bigger
percentages than they huge, which.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Is like borderline highway robbery.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
And it's also too I think some of them just
it's different, like if you're an NFL player, like yeah,
dode go touch the market or whatever, cause it's like
I just get professional sports. And I was just saying
that the college could should be deemed as professionals, but
for now it's not. It's just a college experience is
really what's supposed to be right. I just have a
hard time being like, hey, dude, let's go test a
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new college every year, then being uh like, oh hey yeah,
let's just the NFL offseason market view. I view it differently,
Like Jamar Chase and t Higgins just got signed back
to the Bengals, right sure, And now that they're signed,
I don't know how long their deals are. They're more
than there longer than a year, right in a you know,
in a year's time, or less than that, you know,
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whenever the Bengals are bounced from the playoffs next year,
if they make it, there aren't going to be teams
coming to them. There's not going to be got their
agents aren't going to be out there talking to teams
behind people's back going hey what what what.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Do you guys want Jamar for?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
What?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
What? What will you pay Higgins? We'll see if we
can strike a deal.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Like no, he's in a contract, like he's there's there's
he's signed for money. He doesn't get that money if
he if he then bounces like they're not going to
do that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So I don't know, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I still think about all the time when I did
a when right before graduation last year when I did
an interview with jan Jensen.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I think it was like technically my last day of school. Really,
it's like that's how I did what It's the only
thing I did.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I woke up to like she wanted to do it
so early too, because I remember I was really nervous
about like missing my alarm.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I'd love to listen to that interview. It's like lost forever. Really. Yeah,
I'm kind of mad about it because it was a
with the school when it was a group thing. It's
kind of a it's a whole is it like on
a school computer somewhere in some lab? I think I
could probably.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I wonder how long it takes for my stuff to
get deleted, But it's fine in regards.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That's a different podcast. But it was.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I remember when I met her for the first time.
I was like, oh, hey, I'm grant, nice to meet you. Uh.
She's like, oh, jam pick that up. I'm aware and.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Uh she took her maybe ten seconds, just unprompted started
complaining about transfer portal andile stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Really.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, it was awesome though, Like we just like got
into it right away to and like talk like Rick Patino,
like just like basketball was awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I was like, I love jam She's the best.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Because it was too like I asked her, like, because
I believe when I met her she was on the
phone with her daughter.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I want to say sure because I think she had
just dropped her offer, was doing something. She was like, Hey,
I gotta go do this real quick.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
And then she was like, yeah, you won't believe it.
We were real busy right now. This whole thing, it's
it's a big, crazy transferportal world.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
We got out here. We're real busy. We got all
going on.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Speaking of them in the transfer portal, you know, I
Iowa hosted that. Her name was Jada Williams at Arizona.
She ended up committing to die with State, and I
think the whole thing was like, yeah, Iowa might have
showed some interest, but they obviously didn't throw her a
big bag or a huge offer.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
She also had a little tied Iowa State.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I think she played with one of those girls in
high school and like an all star team or something.
But now it's it's come out and again this is
old news, a week old. She might have committed at
this point, with how things move in the crazy transfer portal, that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Grant just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Freshman guard Avery howl Out of USC, six footer small forward.
She was like number fifteen in the recruiting class last
year in the twenty twenty four recruiting class, so the
number fifteenth ranked freshman coming into this year. She averaged
something like eight or ten points for.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
USC this year.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Who if Juju doesn't go down, has a chance to
go and win the national championship.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, she's in the portal and IOWA is reportedly in
contact with her and interested.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, it's kind of it's different too in the women's side,
because you don't really have one and don's I don't
think you can't have them.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I don't believe it's allowed, which I'm still confused about
because what's the Why is there a double standard?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I have no idea, but regardless, this just is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I didn't make the rules.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I don't know, so I kind of think my brain
would tell me that it would be smarter on the
women's side and invest more in like high school recruiting
because you can have players for longer. Sure, on the
men's side, I get like, like Rick Patino said flout,
he's like Saint John's he was like, we don't.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Have any commits in this class. Yeah, we don't need them.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Like we're just we're just gonna do the portal, Like
we got guys returning and we're gonna pick up like
three other dudes.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
And I was like, yeah, I mean it sounds crazy,
but like when in the New World, that's what you
it's what you can do. And if everyone's just gonna
go to the NBA the next year, are like, okay, fine,
So on the women's side, you can't really do that, but.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Just like this girl, you can. You can invest a
lot into this girl.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
They may have spent the last you know, USC could
have spent the last three years recruit in this chick,
and then after one year she's like, Okay, yeah, I'm
not going to the league, but I'm going somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Women in NCAA college basketball cannot enter the WNBA Draft
after just one year, unlike men due to the WNBA
draft eligibility rules. So it's not about college. It's about
the WNBA setting rule, and it's they require you to
either be a senior with all of your eligibility exhausted,
or you have to be turning twenty two in the
year that you're drafted.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think that's fair and that's fun, which is weird
because the NBA owns the WNBA. But yeah, why wouldn't
it just be this, I don't know, it's the whole time, well, you.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Know, and there's probably a I'm sure if you dig
into that, there's like a reason of like the WNBA
a long time ago is like, nah, we wanted to
stay in school, you know, like we want them to
care about their education. Also, much less of a financial
viability option for women, you know who. There's twelve teams
right now. I think there's thirteen teams with the Valkyrize
(38:27):
this year. They pay them seventy grand that that base
salary might be going forward, but like, how much of
a sustaining thing is that in your life? Even if
you play ten years in the WNBA at one hundred
grand average salary. Congratulations, you made a million bucks in
today's world if you didn't get your college degree, what
are you now going to do at thirty?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I no idea.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, like you don't have a degree. Congrats you made
a million dollars. Even if you did great in your
twenties with that money, Yeah, you need something to fall
back on, and now you don't have a college degree
because you left early. That's probably why versus in the
in the NBA, you go to the NBA, you're gonna make.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Those NBA contracts are stupid too. They have so much money,
they're insane. I would be I don't even know that.
In baseball, they have the craziest concert you find.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
You find guys you don't even know who are making
like twenty million a year.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, thirty five million dollar contracts. Unbelievable. Seventh guy off
the bench, he's averaging four and two, like yeah, and like, hey,
role players.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Are important, like, don't get me wrong, very important, especially
in the NBA. Actually, three five million dollars.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
I know Luca isn't on some crazy contract, but like
he came in the other day and shot like a
like a technical free throw.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Well, Luca's got here, she got like the MAVs screwed
him over. Like he was about to get a super
Max and now he can't. He's not eligible for it anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
He's losing, Like I think you have to be like
to get super Max. I think it's to be on
a team for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So now he's he's got to stay around him fuck
with those things. So I think he's like his max
contract that could have gotten.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
It's like now like a one hundred and fifty million
dollars less jeez Christ, like crazy, And.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Not that he's nick.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Don't get me wrong, Luca has a lot of money. Guys,
don't worry, but he's still I don't know. I would
be upset if.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I lost one hundred and fifty million dollars. Uh yeah,
not about you. I know, I know that. I know
this podcast stuffs streaming you pretty well, but we do numbies.
We don't do those, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Speaking of numbies, if you want to go help us out,
go to the YouTube channel. If you're watching, you're already there.
Not all of you are subscribed. We get a lot
the last We've had two videos in the last last
month that have gone over the number of subscribers that
we have. So if you're watching this right now, this
is the content that we post all of the time.
We're doing interviews. Actually, the stuff that me and Grant
(40:50):
are doing right now, just shooting the shit.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
This is like the least interesting stuff that we do.
There's great interviews talking to Deontay Craig.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
What you what will you offer the people if they
get us to six thousand subscribers?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
What can you offer them? You tell them.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
America as we sit right now, we're somewhere in between,
like four thousand and forty one hundred, I can give
you the live count actually as we record.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
It forty What is thirty listeners for six thousand subscribers,
I mean throw out some things.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
You know, I'm not gonna run six thousand miles or
something stupid like that. That'd be like twice across the
United States, six thousand subscribers.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Man, dude, would you eat six thousand eggs? Jesus Christ?
That's like it's like God.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Would you would you install six thousand dollars worth of
solar panels?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
That would be yeah, I mean that would be easy.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I think you know solars, you know, the whole solar
thing is is an investment. That would be I think
most people are gonna be installing six thousand, probably a
lot more, if they're going to try and get their home.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Just plastered with those solar units.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Average, by the way, they have a thirty year warranty
on those things thirty years. You get those solar modules
up on your home, you are just that son is
cooking and you are you are cooking. At that point,
you could probably go up there and fry the egg
on the panel. I don't suggest it. I don't think
either the EWAG Council or Eagle Point Solar wants you
to do that. I'm saying you might be able to
(42:22):
if it was necessary, if it was a last ditch kind.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Of thing, last person on Earth.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
You're just grinding eggs on solar panels six thousand, Grant,
I don't know. I is there something small I could eat?
I just can't eat six thousand of anything?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Can I don't know if I want to see a
video of you eating things either, We'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I know.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Well, we've hopped on here before a couple of times,
like before we had the record button, and I'm eating
like a yogurt or something.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Grant's like, I don't want to see that. I can't
do that. It's horribly disgusting. Is that like your biggest pet, peeve?
Uh No, I don't know what is my biggest one.
It's I don't run into that often. Enough for it
to be a huge deal to me. Keah isn't doesn't
bother me too much.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Six thousand, six thousand you so leave a comment to
six thousand.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Curls on one side, my arm would be so fucked.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
But yeah, maybe that's five pound weight. Yeah, to get
at like a one pound only your left arm, though
you're not allowed to switch arms.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
My left arm is actually stronger. I don't know why,
but yeah, something like that. That's a that's a good suggestion.
I need suggestions in the comments down below.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
And this is how we know you made it to
forty four minutes in this video? Did you swim six
thousand meters? That almost four miles sixty four hundred meters? Actually,
I don't want to watch that.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
They're probably pretty I think, who Kevin, who swims like?
You're like your average person who wasn't a collegiate swimmer
or like a like a club swimmer. I think your average,
like good like average person can like swim a thirty
minute mile. I'm not your average person, so that's gonna
take me like fifty minutes maybe an hour to swim
(44:02):
a mile.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Would you would you purchase six thousand tickets?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Buddy, an hour. I okay, Well, here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Actually, I saw like I got like buy a whole section,
like the cheapest ticket to an IYO of football games,
like what sixty or seventy bucks.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
I mean we're talking like sounds right. It depends on
the game, but I.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Mean, dude, we're looking at like forty two grand or
something like that. I like we're now getting in the
range of like what I make in a year. You know,
just like hey, yeah, if you guys get us to
six thousand subscribers, I'll just I'll blow the entire amount of.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
That's my entire mouth. I would like to do a
I saw like Barstool does.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
It's like ice con where they all go to one game,
like they'll go to like one hockey game. It's just
like a pack of forty in one section. It would
be do we should do like a coover Clover con
or something.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's like a Iowa io a football game. Sixty people
in one section.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
In Jesus God, I don't know, six thousand is something.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Come up with it? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I don't have much else left tonight because I was
hoping Kevin was going to be able to do this,
and we were gonna do the.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Uh the draft.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
He's now done it twice where he's like, no, sorry,
I can't the draft of what like the twenty thirteen
to twenty seventeen you have to draft, not draft, but
you have to name your starting lineup. Oh you get
you get one quarterback, one punter, one kicker, one holder,
one long snapper, two running backs, a full back.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
But there's only guys that you played with.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Two tight ends, only guys that were there at the
same time that me, Drake.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
And Kevin were there. Oh, I think you got to
expand it to now. I'm gonna be honest, you think
we have to go all the way to now? So
like the last decade basically, Yeah, I think that's a
better list.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
It's more interesting guys from the year we walked into
right now.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, I think that's a better list. Oh, that becomes
a whole lot harder.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
I think it becomes. Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying.
I think it becomes more contentious. I think you got
a boost those babies up. Wow, you gotta throw it
in there, because then you got sneaky.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Too, like you gotta. Yeah, especially the I mean I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
You like running back. I think you could do it
pretty quickly. But like often, the line would be troubling.
Your stars started the line.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
And you get real tricky. Line would be real tough. Yeah,
I don't even know. I don't know if i'd put
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
You know where it's gonna get real hard, Petris, give
me pada.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I was just someone's just talking to me about ox video.
Give me give me case idea padilla.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
All right, I should actually I should put my my
glorious king Jackson Stratton up in there.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Give me, dude, give me Shaggy. Is he still around?
Please tell me he's still in. Though he's still he
didn't leave. Let's figure it out. I want so let's
look Liker. You know, I didn't see him in the
uh or maybe I did see him, I just didn't
recognize him.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
But I loved how everyone was analyzing that one uh
Blake Horansteine video like it was the Zapruder film.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
One drop.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Of Like, well, his angle of his knee looks pretty
good there. I think he's actually ahead a schedule.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
They love doing that in football. Not it's like us
the video of a quarterback. He's probably need to play football. Yeah,
somebody kill me that. People are so stupid. Jimmy Sullivan
freshman right there, I was.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I mean, god, there's a lot of exciting dude, there's
so much exciting things to be excited about as we
get I don't.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Know, this is gonna be a fun uh summer of
This is going to be an incredible summer because there's
so much like lead up and potential.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Like I told you, Summer of Grant, That's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Drew Campbell, that kid, Jack's brother, he's going into his
second year.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
He could be an animal. He really knows. Who knows,
he said about anyone, Like you could pick any doing
on the roster. I could tell you. I could confirm
it could be an animal. Well we're oh, yeah, there
we go.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Jackson Stratton, Mission Bay, California, Colorado State.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Let's get him on. He's a I know he's got
podcast abilities.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
He went, he went, He went twenty one of thirty
five this season with a long of seventy two.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Dude, I'm telling you that that first drive versus UCLA,
I was like, Oh, he's way better than he should be.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I was like, he's like this is this is oddly good.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
Well, also, that was when they were selling us on
the fact they were selling us on the idea that
he was a Scout Team linebacker. Yeah, and I like
we talked about that week through, like, oh, Scout team linebacker.
Apparently it's the backup, Like we really got to make
sure Silivan doesn't get hurt this game. Yeah, and you
tell me scouting linebacker. Look, I'm not picturing like Jack
Campbell size. I'm picturing like a slightly smaller Jack Campbell
(48:39):
throwing like a awful spiral and just like like not
even doesn't have the seams on it.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
It's like spinning sideways like a disc. Like just just
that's what I was picturing.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
It looks like you gave the football to someone who's
never played the sport.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yeah, but like Jack's trade, you could tell too, it's like, okay,
people his QB.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
I wish people would have listened to our podcast about that,
because we tried to tell people, yes, he's a quarterback.
He knows how to play football at the quarterback position.
It's just where he's been lining up as a body
for the past couple of weeks. Was at Scout Team linebacker.
He is not a Scout Team linebacker. He is a
quarterback playing Scout team linebacker.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
I mean, you guys, you guys were saying that to me,
but my brain just refused to believe it too, because
it must it was so much funnier if he was
a Scout Team linebacker like that. That would have made it
so much better. Like I didn't, I didn't genuinely force
myself to accept it as.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Fact until like the bowl game probably it's like, no, dude,
we actually had a linebacker out there. Yeah, you know,
I don't know. I'd like to see some Soley though
I like to see him. Uh oh dude. Still, we
gotta you.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Can't go full solely. We gotta I need like a
full Soully. Once you go full Solly, you can't ever
go back. We need like uh in terms of Sullivan levels,
I needed like eighty percent Sullivan because.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I still want a little bit that crazy. But sometimes
it gets too crazy.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
We certainly can't have one hundred Sully because we get
what happens in the UCLA game where he runs his
face into a mac truck.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
But then I also you get the play like he
had against Missouri where he runs around the stadium twice
and then dives in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Facts.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
You're right, You're right, sick play man, I mean absolutely
sick play.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
Yeah, we have a we have a lot of exciting
things though the football program.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Dude, the lead up to this season is going to
be fun. Schedule too this year? Oh yeah, dude, Oregan.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
What's crazy is we have I don't know what it
will be, what the line will be when we play Indiana.
I'm gonna assume, like if everything goes, if anything goes
as plan, we'll probably will be underdogs to them.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
But I don't know. Things can change. Who knows, but
I think, uh.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Like every game will be underdogs in we'll be against
a team those in the playoff last year.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, and then we could be favorite. I bet you
were like a two and a half point favorite O
where I was guess. I don't know. Week two, we
don't one a half point favorite. You're guessing that right now?
Guess the line share? Why not?
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Do you think they got a future on that? They probably?
Speaker 4 (51:12):
The April lines are never accurate for what it's actually
going to be. I saw someone posted like week one
lines Norda versus Miami. It's like Norda minus one. Well,
that's just not gonna be.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
It's like, okay, well, I don't know where you're getting at.
So you know, I think I think people generally think
that Iowa State is going to be like pretty good.
I mean they're returning back to right. Yes, yeah, I
mean I get is this oh no, that was one
and a half.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
They're supposed to be pretty good this year too. We
were it was the same line. I think we were
like a one and a half or two point favorite.
Is this is this real? Am I finding the actual?
I think I don't know what you're looking at. Iowa
minus two and a half.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
Yeah, it seems I think I I think I think
this is for and the spread for ninety percent of
IAS games in the past, it's two and a half.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Four years is minus two and a half. Yeah, you
know you're right. You're right. It's either that or like
plus eighteen to Ohio State plus. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah, we were plus plus twenty four.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I believe I'll take it every time.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, I ain't got nothing else. We won't ramble too
much longer than this. We we are eventually going to
do that draft. Hopefully we have a guest coming on
next episode, another recent graduate and guy.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Who's looking to make the league.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
And I'm not gonna say the name because Grant's all
about me, not jink jinxing things. And if you are
a Patreon member patreon dot com slash Washing Up walk Ons,
I'll bring the old I'll.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Bring the old QR code.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
If you want to join the army, leave that up
here in the corner. H you would have heard last Friday,
I jinxed like three or four different things on that.
On that episode, Grant was just shambles. He's like, dude,
I can't even be here with you.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
I'm trying to like the patron. Yeah, that's all we got.
Talk to you next time. See that. Eat your eggs. Hey,
thanks for listening to the show.
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