Ben chats with Tariq Ahmed of Revel Cider in Guelph about the road from pig poop and a fermentation obsession to opening a cider house experimenting with hyper local terroir and unique biodiversity. They talk the craziness that is cider taxes, having to own an orchard to sell products, and the precarious position the company is currently in. Plus Ben attempts an apple-focused quiz in Chris' absence.
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