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January 5, 2024 51 mins

In this episode, Bill and Odell engage in a profound discussion with Dr. Ronald Keeney, the visionary behind Prevent Child Abuse North Carolina, established 45 years ago. They delve into the delicate yet crucial topic of trauma and resilience in children who have endured both, fostering an insightful conversation starting with Odell sharing one of his childhood traumas with us. 

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