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May 5, 2021 61 mins

Shane Bishop, producer on Dateline for NBC, sits with the Heckleproof fellas and talks about how much work can go into developing a story for the hit show.

Shane and his team, at the time of this recording, have the top podcast in the nation, "Mommy Doomsday." 

He is also very active with The Innocence Project, advocating for reforms that help prevent and address wrongful conviction.

The Innocence Project ​https://innocenceproject.org/

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