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November 3, 2021 109 mins

Getting Real, with Zach and Kayley. In this episode, Kayley and the wildly popular and talented narrator Zachary Webber really talk—so much so that Kayley forgets to use any sound effects. Topics covered include life stuff and creative stuff (you really just have to listen). At the end you will hear a clip from the audiobook for Attachment Theory.

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