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January 24, 2024 61 mins

Doug Pagitt talks with Liz Cooledge Jenkins. 

They talk all things women and church—drawing on Liz's new book "Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women’s Humanity from Evangelicalism."  The book spent some time as the Amazon #1 bestseller in Women's Spirituality. 

They discuss the connections we could draw between the book and the current political climate, from how Christian love and care should include removing bans and restrictions on abortion, to refusing to vote for candidates who normalize basic disrespect toward women, to being willing to make waves in our churches (rather than settling for veneers of niceness) toward the common good.

Liz argues in the book that even in the warmest and most welcoming evangelical churches, patriarchy looms as an ever-present force, suppressing women’s possibilities and debilitating whole communities. Well-intentioned churchgoers and church leaders have bought into deeply-entrenched male-dominated mindsets, power structures, and theologies that are not working—not for women, and really not for anyone.

Liz is a Stanford University graduate (BS in Symbolic Systems) and has an MDiv from Fuller Theological Seminary.  She writes at the intersections of faith, feminism, and social justice. She blog at lizcooledgejenkins.com and (formerly) Patheos, is a regular contributor to Feminism & Religion, and has written for other outlets such as Sojourners and The Christian Century 

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