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July 19, 2023 54 mins

Have you ever felt like we're constantly replicating the same type of churches? Well, you're not alone in thinking that way!

We've observed that even exceptional church planters and planting movements can succumb to the allure of superficial metrics to measure success. In this conversation, Tommy and Fredy delve into the reasons behind this pattern. They also question whether this tendency is unique to American culture, where there's a drive to churn out numerous events, gatherings, and churches to boost numerical growth.

The concept of "McJesus" comes into play, highlighting the concern that we might be generating artificial churches that prioritize quantity over quality, ultimately neglecting the crucial aspect of discipleship.

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