"Detention" Warning: Brace yourself for offbeat humor, unexpected tangents, and unfiltered fun in our 'Detention' episodes. This isn't your typical Tragedy Academy fare – it's a lighthearted listen perfect for those searching for laughter. However, if you're seeking serious topics, look elsewhere. Listener discretion is advised.
In Part 2 of this special "Detention" episode of The Tragedy Academy Podcast, Jay and Dre, joined by cohost Gary, dive deeper into their hilarious and thought-provoking discussions. Prepare for a journey filled with uproarious laughter, questionable decisions, and unexpected wisdom as they navigate through peculiar tales and heated debates. 🎙️
Join Jay, Dre, and Gary as they continue their wild escapades in Part 2 of this unique "Detention” episode. This time, the conversation takes a hilariously unexpected turn when Gary recalls his outrageous experience with Canadian currency at a club, leading to comedic chaos. 😆💸 Jay shares his culturally eye-opening story of being the only white guy at Dre’s bachelor party, filled with unforgettable moments, including rival stripper fights! 🕺🔥
Packed with tangents that range from nostalgic reflections on disposable cameras to philosophical debates about the impact of AI on creativity, this episode is a rollercoaster of emotions and insights. Whether it's laughing about finding an old VHS porn tape or discussing the complexities of live DJ sets, Jay and his friends leave no stone unturned. The diverse dynamics and genuine camaraderie between these old friends turn every conversation into a blend of humor and profound revelations, making for a relatable and thoroughly entertaining listen. 🎧✨
Key Takeaways:
- 😲 00:00 The aftermath of discovering a porn tape and the unique perspectives on sex education.
- 🎯 00:35:49 Jay's unforgettable experience at Dre’s bachelor party, marked by cultural nuances and stripper rivalries.
- 😱 00:43:51 The chaotic and hilarious moment when Dre had to school the strippers on basic economics.
- 📸 00:24:00 A nostalgic dive into the era of disposable cameras and the anticipation of developing film.
- 🤖 00:32:16 Deep dive into the debate on AI's capability to create soulful music and art, balancing innovation with authenticity.
Guest Bio:
Dre and Niki: Longtime friends of Jay, Dre, and Niki bring vibrant energy and genuine insights as the perfect partners in crime for this detention episode. Their camaraderie with Jay adds authenticity to the dialogue and embodies the spirit of The Tragedy Academy: learning through life's unpredictability. Dre's stories and Niki's sharp wit make them irreplaceable contributors to the hilarity and heart of the episode.
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Why not? They sure don't. No. Really? Yeah.
What's that like? Wow. I felt, okay, so as a girl... Quick question. Did you have rewind?
Definitely. Yeah. The pause was enough. No. No.
(00:57):
So as a girl, like when you... Okay. I think I can speak for most women when I say this.
When I found the porn tape. Like, that's my mom.
No, no, no. Not that the porn tape was my mom.
I don't think you can speak for most women. No, wait. What team is this? Rewind.
(01:21):
They didn't rewind the tape either? Right. I am so awkward. I don't know if I want to hear the lead.
Wait a minute. No, okay, guys. Take two. Take two. Take two.
Right, you did. That's the whole point. Okay, great.
It was not my mom, guys. World, it was not my mom.
But it's the fact how we process it. Like, oh my God, my mom is watching porn.
(01:45):
We think of our moms like, that's mom.
Yeah, she's not kicking more fat. What are you doing?
So it's like, for us, it's like kind of gross. I think the statute of limitations
is probably passed on this.
Right so it's so bad when i was a kid probably like i don't know like 14 or 15.
(02:11):
I had a job to paint houses on this particular road with like a whole bunch
of matching houses right and we knew the people that lived in the houses or
whatever i'm trying to be a little vague,
there happened to be and this is like 1989 or 90 or 91 somewhere around there right,
There was a couple. It was two women. And they said, while we're gone and you're
(02:37):
painting, feel free to come in the house and drink drinks or whatever you need. Okay, cool.
Bro, I'd never seen two women together in my life.
This is the weirdest thing, you know, to us out in a hillbilly town.
So, of course, you took two teenage boys and you say you can come in the house and look.
What are you going to do? You're going to find a whole bunch of shit.
(02:57):
You're going to go look? Yeah. You're going to go look? You want to know?
You guys were like sword fighting.
I'm curious, right? Yeah. So I went into the room and there were like,
I shouldn't even say that.
There was a poster of Paul Abdul on the wall.
Oh, I had a poster of Paul Abdul on the wall in 1989 too. Guaranteed.
And I remember just looking at it like, why?
(03:17):
Like, it's weird. I couldn't comprehend all the things. I was too young.
Yeah. Like I was young but curious and it was weird.
And all I remember hearing though is, I went back out in the living room because
I was like, this is fucking weird. I don't want to see this. I'm going to head out.
And I hear my cousin screaming, Oh my God.
And I'm like, what's he screaming about? And he comes running out of the room.
(03:38):
And you watch Revenge of the Nerds, Lamar, when he holds the javelin and it's like...
Oh man. Like things in the middle. Okay. He's standing there with a double-ended...
Dildo. Dude, it had to be like 10 and a half feet long. And he's got it in his
hand and he's going, look at this and it's wobbling.
(03:58):
It's like, what are you doing?
He's not even thinking about it. Why are you touching it? Why are you touching me?
Do you know how much DNA is on there? But he's yelling and laughing and I'm watching like this.
It's like slow motion rubber jumping in his hands.
Why are you touching me? He's cheering with a shake weight. And what did you
grab it at when you first found me? I know, did you start on the end or did you start on the middle?
(04:22):
What did you start on the middle? And where was the tape stopped at? Right.
Where is the tape? Where is the tape?
Oh, you learned way too much in that scenario. No, but I remember just looking
at it like in slow motion.
Like, what am I seeing right now? And why is this in your hand?
Why didn't you just call me to look inside the drawer? Dude, look.
(04:45):
Why do you need to come out here? He came out there with the damn gadget.
Oh, yeah. He was getting ready to start, like, a Roman war with a spear.
And he was super excited.
You didn't find panties. No, he came out.
You came out with the dildo and was super excited. So he's taking it with him.
He's very excited about it. He's taking it with him.
(05:06):
But, you know, when you're young. I'm going to show everybody.
You're curious. You're curious. So you get this tape, and it's not rewound.
But it's not your mom we figured that out thank
god no it's not my mom and it wasn't so what
happens you get it you throw it in what do you think about throwing it in no
(05:27):
i see i i'm a daredevil okay so i was that kid i don't talk about getting in
trouble okay right you know what i'm saying so no i popped it in and i looked
at it and i was like wow i sat there.
I watched it. You took like, you, I watched it.
You actually consumed it when it was us. We would have been like.
(05:48):
Yeah, I actually watched the shit.
I did. And I thought it was interesting. That was the storyline.
So you know back then, right, because you know back then, it was a plot fall
type of fucking porn and shit.
But they were about to pull. They were about to pull.
And it was, it was actually a threesome. Oh.
It was actually a threesome. But I remember this shit because it was like astonishing
to me. That's hardcore for your first look. Yes, It was. It really was.
(06:11):
And so, yeah, they were by the pool and there was a black girl,
black guy, and a little Asian chick.
And the shit was, they did they shit. And I was watching the whole thing.
Yes. I didn't watch the whole thing, but I watched a good minute of it.
I didn't watch the whole thing. Has anybody ever seen the credits on a porno? 15 minutes.
(06:32):
You get to that and eventually you're like, the VHS tapes. That's a long time.
15 minutes is a haul into a porn. I watched that shit.
Because you know why my mom never talked to me about sex so that was like my
first like understanding sex,
and I never was talked like in detail about that stuff so porn was like my first
(06:55):
vision of sex sweet Jesus man straight to the straight to the point,
straight to the point straight to the point.
It's over with shit's different now and the best part about it he had two girls
so she's like okay so two girls is normal yeah I was like well drink.
So this is normal it's normal but it wasn't normal because you know it wasn't
(07:19):
people weren't coming out young people aren't capable of threesomes but it makes
you angry that some people will have a threesome that you don't even know you don't know yeah,
It was crazy. It was crazy. That is funny. We didn't know shit back then.
But why were women not like, okay, I don't know. And I guess I'm for you.
They might now, or I just come from an area where it just didn't seem like something
that women were talking about much.
(07:41):
Yeah. I never heard any girls back then like talking about that shit.
Me neither. No. The fellas would, but no girls at school were like,
hey, fucking watch this. Did you see that? Like, yeah.
I mean, I wouldn't have complained if they did.
No. No, we couldn't handle it. You can't have, two genders with the same levels
of like fucking passion or horniness.
(08:06):
Why not? No, that's too much. Oh, no. You can't have two people with...
No, you can't. You can't. You can't.
I feel like... It will...
That's how you mess around and get pegged. No. No.
Not going. Too much anger.
(08:29):
And what I mean by it's great that all three of y'all have because if all y'all
three have that attraction, the energy is diluted to two people.
You're not really just giving it to one person.
So you have another person when you said you had two women and they all have
the same and you have the same.
So y'all even it out and just doing a lot of exploring. Well,
don't say even out, man. Did you say even out or evening out?
(08:54):
Even. I thought you said evening out.
But you always have to have someone that's a little bit scary.
I think that makes it better. Like wearing a clown mask? No, not scary.
I mean like on the sense of apprehensive. Like a little nervousness or whatever.
We all got that. But I mean, the point is, somebody is teaching you something different.
(09:20):
You don't know the same. Everybody has not been with the same person all the time.
So there's nothing wrong with teaching something different so they got that energy.
It'll never be combative. Don't always even happen. I don't care if somebody
has a threesome or foursome or whatever.
Look, he's a connoisseur and shit like, you know. But back to what I was trying
to show you about the dildo thing.
I want to show you this TikTok dude. Did you pause the video? No, no, no.
(09:43):
No, no, he dropped the dildo and he thought somebody would just say something
to him. Instead, I'm going to show you what the guy did.
He drops it. Bam. Pfft, pfft.
No, no, no. That's what your buddy did. No.
You don't pick up somebody's drop dildo and put it in your pocket.
(10:03):
He put this shit in the pocket, Gary.
He picked up the drop dildo and put it in the pocket. If I could show you,
Gary, maybe somebody could show you, but... There you go.
Oh, he can see it. Rewind it back, man. No, it'll recycle. It's short.
You ready, Gary? Yeah, I'm ready. I was born ready. It's the best, baby.
(10:24):
Guy drive my... Drops his big rubber wanger Oh And he puts it in his fucking
pocket Why did he pick it up?
Why did he pick it up And then like nonchalantly Like,
He didn't even miss a beat No That was like a 20 on the ground Intrusive thoughts
(10:45):
won me that day It's like he was waiting on somebody To drop they shit Fucking
Merry Christmas I think like I might like Reach down to grab it and then notice
what it is and then you just gotta keep walking.
Here's what it looked like. He looked like a guy who found a Chinese food flyer
and was hungry at the same time.
He was already hungry and he was like, put it in his pocket.
(11:09):
He was like, in stride. It was perfect. He didn't miss a beat. I was like,
Why would he bend? The only thing that's done is like that flip and catch it
with the other end. Like a flashlight. It's fine.
Just put it in his jacket pocket. He made sure he went the other direction because he was in the same band.
(11:30):
Once he realized it was his, he's like, I'm going this way. It's never going to be this way.
I need a part two. Can you imagine what the guy was like? I did not follow that
guy. No, there's a joke he did on purpose.
He was running the joke. I did somebody the last time. It's a laugh.
And this fool pick it up and take it home. You nasty mother sucker.
You fucking nasty. It was used. It wasn't wrapped.
(11:52):
No, it was bounced. That shit was hit the damn ground. I don't even care if
that's in the original packaging. You don't pick it up.
Don't pick it up. What do you need that for? What are you doing?
Well, we know what he needs it for, Gary. He doesn't know what he fucking needs
it for. You don't know, maybe.
He got the fucking tape stopped. But doesn't that Amazon?
(12:16):
If he really needs one that bad, just Amazon that shit. You know what the funny
part is? But that one was free. You doing the joke. How do you go back and get it?
Not it? Yeah. Not weirdo. Hang on. Can I get the money extras? I think you have to.
You've got to go up to him and be like, excuse me, sir. Like, I dropped something.
That's when you go into documentarian mode. You back up and use a wire.
(12:39):
And you watch where this dildo lands. You've got to go talk to that dude.
And just find out why the hell he just did that.
As soon as that thing went in his jacket pocket, I would have been fucking an
inspector. Hide mine in a trash can with my camera.
Following. I got to see what this dude... I got to see what the fuck he's going
to do with this. Where is he going? Where are you going? Is he on his way to work?
He's going home. He just wants McDonald's. I need an explanation.
(13:04):
That's so like the cliffhanger, but you'll never get that.
You can't get me that far and leave me. I need to know what...
Did he pick it up and then realize what it was and then just tuck it away because
he didn't want anybody to see it, but he has to put it back down.
Yeah. You just hit the fucking jackpot. Like, I got me a free one.
I got me a free one. Fuck.
(13:27):
This one's thick.
Oh, man. No. Put that down.
He needs a mom. No.
What are you doing? It don't touch your thing. You know how you would have followed
me? You remember when a kid would hold on to it even though you were shaking
(13:48):
their hand to drop it? You don't know where that's been.
He got a death grip on that damn thing. So wait, you're telling me y'all would follow him, right?
I would have followed him. I would go right up to him. I would go right up to
him and be like, excuse me, I think I dropped something.
What if he said no? No, what if he told you? No, I know what you're talking
about. I got you on video. That's my prosthetic penis.
(14:09):
Are you getting it? No, the rest. The dildo on your right pocket. Is it your right?
Can I get that back? Are you just happy to see me? I don't think you're just
happy I think you got my field. It's right there. I see you.
Was he going to wash it? You got to put it in the dishwasher.
You got to go in the dishwasher.
(14:30):
Gary's frozen? Gary is frozen. That's all right, though. Now we're going to
talk about Gary over and over again. He's going to turn and look at us.
He got Down syndrome sitting there. He's okay. When did you find that video?
I don't know, but that is funny. I sent you that video. That dude looked mildly creepy.
Oh, no. I got that from Carnita. She sent me... You know she sent me...
Oh, Carnita sends all types of Carnita shit. She sent all of it.
(14:54):
When she sent that one, I was done. Who picks up a rando dildo? That is weird.
That's somebody's drop. You know, you get a... That's some shit you see after like a tornado.
Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're driving through the city.
Like, all these houses are torn apart and then there's a random dildo from somebody's
(15:14):
nightstand. Right. It flew through.
You hear that mostly in hotel jokes. You know, they left it in the hotel. Cool.
But I've never seen it just drop. See, I have a problem with the hotel dildo. Who finna pick it up?
Like Gary said, in the midst of my hand going down, I noticed it. Wait a minute.
Yo. I have a problem. You dropped some. Hey, you may want to come back and get
(15:36):
this. My man, come get this.
So, who takes...
A dildo to a hotel. You got to have a road dildo if you're going to use those.
A road dildo? Yeah, I mean, okay.
If you're into dildos, you probably got the road one. If you travel with it, you've gone too far.
(15:56):
Well, some people may be. There's a lot of people traveling with a whole kit.
Come on now, whole kits. Why do you need a dildo if you're already in a hotel room? It makes sense.
Yeah, maybe shoot content. That's sad. Yeah, the content. Yeah, this is 24.
Only fans and shit. Hold up. It's a lot of things out there. Only fans is weird, man.
(16:20):
It's very weird. No. I know. He doesn't. He wants to see me.
I guess that's why. Somebody wants to see somebody.
Hayjix is his name. Hayjix. Hayjix. Backwards, Jay Hicks. Yes. Did you say Hayjix?
Hayjix. Hayjix. That's his name on the phone. I'm going to put out some content. Hayjix.
(16:42):
As I stroke my beard. Somebody will pay you to stroke your damn beard.
Oh, I could do beard porn. Dead bods are one of the fastest growing demographics.
Only fans is for any and everything now. It's not just about sex.
I told Taranosa to put her feet on there. That's what I was about to say.
People have feet fetishes.
There's girls I know that make like 30 grand a month just with their feet.
(17:03):
30 grand? Can I put my feet on OnlyFans? For 30 grand a month?
I think we can do that, huh?
Why not? I mean, unless your name is tattooed on them. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Push my fucking feet up there.
I wouldn't give a fad for an album. I make it so much a month,
someone can make fun of me. I'll give it to you. They have feet on there.
Somebody wants it, though. Yeah, they do. You never know. I'm sure.
(17:25):
Like, oh, wow. There's a bunch of strange people. Looking at the crack in my heel.
Look at the callus on my feet. Look at the crack in my right heel. Ooh.
Describe me so nice, though. Thank you. Oh, my OnlyFans would be the fucking
stupidest thing you'd ever seen.
(17:46):
No, Gary, what's your OnlyFans look like? What's your specialty? Shit.
I'm an observer, not a performer. That's a creepy category too.
Do you like do the chair in the corner of the room? Hey.
Is it your girlfriend that's in this situation? Negative.
I do the, you're going to pay me some money and I will shoot net of this for
(18:08):
you and then I will return it.
It's not illegal if you're behind the camera. No. Isn't that the thing?
Which is so... That is weird.
If there's a camera there, then it's not...
Being behind the camera is a weird thing in general. Like, you forget everything
else around you. I've walked on the highways.
I've seen people walk onto a runway before. I've seen people walk right into pools.
(18:31):
I've walked into walls. Like, people have been shooting at each other and you're
in the camera and you don't even care.
Like, you're just trying to get the shot and like, tunnel vision. It's like...
It's a weird thing. Like... Gen Z is a bunch of combat correspondents with their phones.
Love it and they're like they don't do shit
they'll watch like an old lady getting her ass kicked and it'll be like nine
(18:51):
people fucking videotaping yeah like that shit does not fly it was great yeah
like so many tapes you see of shit you're like whoever did this is the biggest
pussy on earth like you gotta go that happened to me once I was on a train on a CTA,
too much info but uh.
(19:11):
I was you know just hanging out I took the train to my car because I went to
parking in a certain neighborhood. You know, you got to play it off, jump on the train.
And this guy and this girl was on the train fighting. Like he was on top of
her and she kept saying, stop, stop, stop.
He kept, I looked up like, man, he like, this is my girl, this is my girl.
She won't let me go through her phone. She been cheating. I'm like,
(19:31):
oh, okay. So I turned to walk away. She like, I don't know him.
He don't even know my name. Oh no.
He's trying to steal my phone.
So I stopped, turned and looked at him. He's looking at me. I said, what's her name? Wow.
Did he run? He got up. He got up.
(19:52):
He was like, uh, and walked away.
She was like, thank you. The crazy part is, it was a whole bunch of people sitting
there watching. Yeah, that's what they do. I can't watch.
That's exactly what they do. I'm not capable of being the watcher. Yeah, it's a big much.
I can't mind my own business. Right. I can, but it just threw me off.
I don't like to see domestic violence but let alone that if I can stop it to
(20:13):
prevent it like hey y'all need to stop let it go but when he said you know she
was cheating I'm gonna mind my business until she said he don't even know my
name thank God she had to wear it with all I was like wow but it's just the
people that record it's the recording,
it's the recording that is to me is disgusting and say oh my and then they do
a bad job of it too and you're like what the fuck you're jumping around
(20:35):
you're gonna be you gotta record hold the camera still yeah we fucking Fucking
keep it wide and fucking hold it still.
So we can see every goddamn thing. Yeah, stop filming shit vertical.
You just see the rest of the fucking screen. No, what's happening? Not portrait.
Yeah, everything is portrait. I know that we sound like we're old people now,
but fuck, I can't stand it. I can't stand it.
(20:55):
Some asshole way back, like 10 years ago, just didn't turn his fucking phone sideways.
And then forever, TikTok now finally has it.
It goes full screen sideways. Thank God. Yeah, they just started implementing
that full screen sideways on TikTok, which is great for our show.
Oh, they did it on TikTok. Yeah,
(21:16):
so it's good for our show because of the stuff that we film with. Yeah.
Crappy ass phone. I mean, that's actually good.
That's actually good. It's way bigger. It makes no sense to have it this way. Uh-oh. Like, at all.
Like, this way, it's the same aspect ratio as fucking TV, movie screen.
You can't fit anything in it.
(21:37):
No, like it's just, it's been pissing me off for 15 years.
In so many ways, when you're trying to make content and you're trying to maximize
the, you know, the capabilities of the cameras and stuff that you know,
and you're doing the editing, you don't want to give up, you know, frame.
Right. You like the way something looks, but you end up compromising because
everybody wants it, you know, in that 916 where you get like just this.
(22:00):
Yeah. So you lose, you know, two thirds of the fucking shot that has so much
more context in it or shows like a better environment or gives you some kind of context. That part.
Like people will hire us. We'll bring $150,000 camera rig out there and they'll
be like, shoot it vertical.
I'm like, fuck off. Like, why are we here? That was a thing.
(22:21):
Wow. Use your own iPhone, dick I'm gonna turn my fucking You know,
Arri Alexa That fucking They shoot the best movies And we're Somehow turn it
sideways Like Fucking we'll keep it wide And you can chop it down Like Yeah,
exactly How about you pull your phone out And you do it,
It's better with the phone If you want it vertical It's better with the phone
(22:41):
Like 90% It's designed for that Yeah But you want me to bring out This expensive
camera And all of these And you want me to shoot it a crappy vertical video. Why would you? Pay me.
Because they want to tell people that it was shot on, you know.
Yes, they will pay you and blame you.
Yeah, they want to brag, you know, and say, oh, you know, there's a shot on
(23:03):
this camera or whatever, but like, okay, you pay extra to make it look worse
at the end of the day if you want it vertical.
Like, and it'll put you in like an environment that's... Like a bad haircut.
Yeah, it's like, I want you to shoot something that makes no sense vertical.
Then you bring all this gear Film this semi from the side. Yeah.
(23:25):
And they always want to show you something like, hey, kind of make it look like
this. I'm like, I could have 20 years ago before I ever picked up a camera before.
But now I'm actually incapable of shooting something that looks that shitty. I'm sorry. Yeah.
I'm learning a lot about behind the scenes talking to Gary. He's definitely
(23:45):
given a lot of points behind the scenes.
I've learned a lot from Gary. Gary, you're very informative.
You're a wealth of knowledge over there, sir.
Yeah. Things are changing so quickly.
Simply fast. I mean, it's...
The lines are blurred of what's good and what's not good anymore.
(24:06):
You know when something's good like you know consciously or subconsciously you
could tell but now it's like people always like do you make content I'm like
no I don't do that like I make my own shit,
yeah it's like you know and people like you know
any good videographers I'm like no videographers shoot weddings like that's
(24:27):
not what I do like if they ask for that then you know like they're asking for
something different but now people that just shoot with their phones or wedding
like whatever they've gotten like really good But the gear's gotten so much better.
Like people are like actively trying to learn how to edit and frame shots correctly.
And everybody has lights now and shit.
(24:48):
Like all of these gone like up a lot, you know. Remember waiting to get your
pictures out of a fucking little envelope from fucking like the drugstore?
Oh, yeah. Like the mystery package. You never knew what was going to be in there.
I was praying that the pictures that you took were all taken correctly because
you got the camera that faulted some of the damn pictures.
Your buddy didn't take a picture of his butthole and sneak it in there.
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And praying that it's nothing on there that's not supposed to be on that roll of film, okay?
Because I got shitty friends that'll do stupid things with your disposable camera.
Oh, yeah, we did that. There's one shot of the nuts every time. That's what I like.
I am in the room. Hey, do they still sell disposable cameras?
I don't know. They probably do.
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They probably do, and they're probably like $50. I don't think they're film.
They're just like nostalgia. Like people use Polaroids. There's Polaroids now
that you can carry around. The instant.
I still love Polaroids. I do. I think they're the coolest thing.
I got to shake it like a Polaroid picture. I hate Polaroids. Polaroid picture.
When I first started in television, when we had to like go to nightclubs or
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whatever, you have to get a release from everybody on camera.
So now you take a picture with a digital camera. Back then, I had to have a Polaroid.
So in my backpack, I'd have like 500 fucking, you know,
know things of film in there so you you know film
a whole nightclub and there'd be a table of 10 people then someone
would have to go in right after the camera moves have a fill
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out a release take their fucking picture staple it to the fucking thing like
and that shit was heavy as shit and like you're waiting for the thing to like
fuck develop like it was a motherfucker and like that is that is evolve man
like yeah you've evolved a lot a lot when you really think about.
Cameras get smaller every other day. I get mad at technology because I spend
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money on something, get it, and then the next day, something like crazy better
that solves all the problems that I have with the one I'm looking at.
It's like that. As soon as you learn how to do something, you don't need to
know how to do that shit anymore because the next one does it for you. Oh, man.
You know how much editing and audio that I learned over the years that is now
not necessary because of technology?
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I'm so pissed. I'm like, it's good to know the fundamentals,
but like, man, like the shit's getting crazy.
It took somebody that had the knowledge like you did to build something better.
Yeah, you're not wrong. Like it has to be a pioneer.
Like I'm not a podcast pioneer by no stretch. Way late to the game.
But you're right. You have to have a certain amount of knowledge.
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Stake in the game to be able to
run an operation if you don't know how it works internally or
you haven't done it yourself then you're just a figurehead amen and nobody
that works with you for you or consumes your product will trust you
because it's not authentic and when shit stops
working like and you if you don't know like what the fundamentals and you're
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fucked so just whatever gadget you have like that uh grimes or whatever the
dj at coachella like she's not a real DJ she has no idea what she's doing and
like they set up her shit wrong so like the,
BPMs were off so like her set was a disaster.
Like she didn't know how to DJ actually so like whoever was on the decks before
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left the sync button on so,
like it was syncing things together that were like not supposed to sync together
so she's just bombing up there and she's one of the biggest DJs in the world
and has no idea what the very first thing you learn is how to beat match Just
throw her some vinyl and get to work if you're actually a DJ.
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Yeah, like vinyl, no clue. But like, literally, she's up there blaming everybody and everything.
I saw the video. It was kind of sad. I felt bad for her, honestly.
Well, you feel bad for her? She made $30 million last year pretending to be
a DJ. Like, I don't know. Man, that's crazy.
$30 million? I feel like everybody's pretending to be something.
Everybody, there it is. Yes.
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Social media is one of those things. I'm a DJ. I pretend to be a DJ myself.
You pretend to be a DJ? I would never step up next to a DJ for anything.
And I love making music all day long.
But there's no damn way I'm going to make a fool of myself like that.
That's a skill. I at least try to learn. That is definitely a skill.
When I wanted to start DJing, I got real vinyl and turntables and started at the beginning.
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Because I respect the art of it. I'm not just trying to make money.
Other shit, if I just want to make money, then maybe. but that particular thing,
anything with music, like I want to know how to do it. I want to learn.
Like I put out my own shit. It's not the best. I could have somebody else.
I could pay them to do it for me, but like, I want to learn how to do every
aspect of these things. Nobody can do what I want.
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Nobody can do what I want. That's my vision.
It's my vision. If you're expecting somebody else to paint your picture while
you tell them the instructions over their shoulder, it's going to fucking look
like some kind of shitty concoction.
It's going to be distorted as hell.
Think about that. Yes. Telling somebody how to paint your picture.
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That's just like, that's just basically saying like, you can't see the vision.
You won't understand the vision how I see the vision.
And I don't know what I want until I'm at a point within the process that gives
me the idea for the next step.
I don't know the end product when I start something. You don't.
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I never do. You never do. You just going in. Just, all right. Wherever it is.
I'm going for it. If it's art or if it's business, that's the separation.
Because like graphic shit that I'm going to sell to somebody else that I'm not
that invested into, I'll pay somebody on Fiverr to do it for me if I don't have
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the time or something like that.
Yeah. But if it's like something I'm going to present to people won't say,
I painted this or I made this beat or this is my art.
You gotta do it. No one else is touching that shit. Yep, that's true.
That's true. I might have somebody mix or master my stuff for me because I'm
not good at that or edit something for me that's a much better editor when I
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get it to a certain point and then they could polish it up.
That kind of stuff. And then still, you're only doing it with people that you trust and know.
Yeah, they will work through it and they'll
like normally they know what I want because they worked with me enough you know
they're like and if I if they do something I don't want then they're also like
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cool enough to like not get buttered about it it's like hey man like that's
cool but like I was thinking more like this and like nine out of ten times like
they get it if they're an artist as well because you know like hey it's your shit you know it's like.
The AI stuff, every day, it gets crazier and crazier. So I have no idea how
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I feel about it day to day. I firmly believe that that's the widget.
I think it replaces the crap that we mass produce.
And it makes art in all its forms that much more valuable when it's made by a person.
It actually gets the respect now. You don't have to make a fucking ashtray 150 times to sell on Etsy.
You can make what you really wanted to make over one time.
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And he gets the respect because it's not an artificially intelligent,
widgeted item made by a machine.
I think that we see art's value go up when it's made by man.
Music, same thing. Same thing. Everybody's saying AI is going to take over music.
You know, it can do all these voices, all that kind of stuff.
But it doesn't feel the same. It doesn't.
You can tell the difference of someone who sings from a pain perspective.
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Or, yes, like. AI can make something that sounds like Lauryn Hill.
And if you didn't know, you wouldn't know, I don't think. Wait, say it again.
AI's going to make some stuff that sounds exactly like Lauryn Hill.
I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference if you didn't know.
It can make something after the fact, but it cannot create it up front.
That's the problem. Yeah. I don't know.
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I've heard some AI stuff that just sounds like... Do you think it's going to feel soul?
I think so. You think so? I could send you stuff right now. Is it capable of feeling it itself then?
To reproduce it? No, but if it could take all the information from every soul
artist that's been successful throughout history and take all that data and
create something out of every six years. Think it could move you to tears?
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Yeah, it could.
You have a different belief in this shit. I do.
I could play you five songs right now, and I bet you couldn't tell which one's
AI if I put one of them once. Really?
Yeah, for sure. they become soulless remember we did this once yeah but it's
getting it's getting way different I know I don't know what I feel about that
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but that just becomes a new paintbrush that's crazy again it's just taking away all the feels of,
mankind of just that that touch that's why performing and like being live is
like that's where that's what I mean can I ask you a question yeah if we made
AI how do we ever lose the feeling of touch,
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we just create something that he continually creates, okay?
So what do Touch have to really deal with physically when we already physically
touched the beginning? We are the creator.
Yeah, I agree with that to some extent because I could tell us to make a song
about my childhood or losing a loved one, like whatever, I can have that make
the song with my feelings like that I wanted to, I can't sing.
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I feel it. I definitely understand it, but we make choices in life.
But that's the human input into the cycle.
Right. But it's still a human input in the cycle the whole time. Still.
Think about it. When you make a choice, right, you got choices you're going to make.
After you make that one choice, whether you choose to do good,
evil, whatever you choose to do, every choice behind it has already been made
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because it's still the same choice.
So we decided to create AI. We already touched it because we were creative. We just replicate.
Man, this is a rabbit hole. It is a rabbit hole. I think we saved that for another
episode. So we're pretty far into this one.
The whole conversation is going different. It's going to be a long day.
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That's a rabbit hole. Before we wrap up, I want to thank Andre and Nikki for
making this trip here to see us. Definitely.
We've been friends for a lot of years. Yes. And I haven't seen you in four.
Four. It's been driving me insane. That's crazy.
That doesn't even seem that way. It doesn't because when we're in a room together
again, it feels like no time has passed.
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And that's rare when you have those connections in life where they can just
pick right back up on the spot. Yep.
And I appreciate that. And you guys, you know your family. Definitely. Love Jay all the time.
He uses you as an example of his Black friends constantly whenever there's something that comes up.
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And you know what's so funny? I was about to say something. I don't want to
interrupt. where I was like, you know, he was the only white guy in our wedding. Oh, I'm...
I only know that because he's told me one trillion times.
Hey, but you know, we love and embrace everybody, man.
Andre, how long did it take for me to ask you that question?
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Which one? How many years after the wedding did I finally ask you,
hey, was that the only white dude there? Yeah.
Oh, really? I waited like three years. What?
Because it's an awkward question. That's not awkward. It's not awkward.
For us, it's not awkward.
Yeah, they were the only white guy there. They definitely knew that. No, they're not.
So, case in point, I'm not going to say anything that happened,
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but Bachelor Party. Yes.
That was, this is a Detention Edition episode, like secondary.
You're good. I'm not going to say anything.
This is suspension. We're going to Detention. Oh, okay. Okay.
So, me, I show up there and it's somewhere in the city and a strip mall that
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used to be like, I don't know, it looked like an insurance sales place and something else.
Something else and i remember i had to
pull into the back of it and there were
junk cars that's how i knew it was
an insurance place because there were cars that have been wrecked that were
probably being looked at
behind there noticed and i parked my car
beside one of them and i'm like okay like what the fuck i drove past everybody
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right everybody's standing out in this open area behind the building hanging
out talking doing their thing right amazing but as soon as my car starts driving
through, everybody's like,
watching me in slow motion, like just staring at me.
And I'm like, oh man, this is, I got this.
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I honestly don't get, I don't get worried about it. As long as you conduct yourself
as a man, a human, people are going to treat you like. They thought you were the cops.
They did. They probably did it first. We call them 12. But I'll tell you,
I got out of the car, walked up, Andre was standing there, you know,
we were like, hey, what's up, you know, all that stuff.
And we started to head in and Andre was standing on the back of his truck and
he goes, I just want everybody to know nobody fucks with Jake.
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That's right. And he told the guy at the door when we walked in because they
were checking for weapons and he's like, you don't check him.
I couldn't have felt any cooler.
You're probably mad you didn't bring your phone. You probably were mad you didn't
bring something with you. What the fuck is this? Hey, the funny part is when
I announced everybody, they was like,
Okay. And everybody started talking to him. Hey, what's up?
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I had so much fun. Yeah. So much fun.
But also, I did discover the classic suburb bachelor party versus... Oh, it goes...
I saw some crazy... It goes down.
Holy shit, dude. Like, I remember... First of all, I got to mind my P's and Q's.
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Leave it there. Right? Because I'm invited to this. I am an ambassador for my
race. I'm in a situation.
I cannot be acting like a fool. Fall out of my mouth. So you got to rent.
You got to rent for your beef.
Hands on my lap. Watching forward. Eyes forward.
Like I'm in class. Don't know why. Right? Don't know why. One guy's like,
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you could slap her on the ass. I'm like, no, I can't. Yes, you can.
No, I can't. That's what I was about to say. A-Bay, how many strippers did y'all
put around him? Oh, it's bad, dude. 25.
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall seeing that shit
best part about it still makes me laugh six pole
there was this woman that she was well
endowed in the posterior yes and she I
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don't know I think she was fucking targeting me for whatever reason I in retrospect
I think that she had you know she wanted to see me squirm just because she thought
it was funny but she came up there and I remember I was sitting in a folding
chair you know like the ones that when there's too many people in church and
they have to pull out the ones that are Madeline Arat.
Ain't nothing sound about this fucking thing. And I'm sitting on it against
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the wall and she comes up, turns around,
And I swear to God, she must have jumped three feet in the air and came down
fucking tan first, right onto my lap.
And I felt the chair go down a solid 12 inches.
I was like, oh shit.
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And when she stood back up, I guess, I think she was coming in for round two.
She was going to like do a drop. And I fucking bolted.
I got out of the way. because I was like, I can't be the guy underneath the
woman in front of all of you because Audrey would never let me live that down.
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That would be amazing.
And the best part, catch a picture of me. No. I look like a goddamn documentarian.
You're like Michael Moore in Flint. See, I got something to tell about this.
This is the problem. as I'm moving through the party everybody's talking I see
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Jay in the corner so I tell the stripper.
Take care of him take care of him he should not be sitting in the corner by
himself he is all with us because the first time I caught Jay in the corner
we was all outside talking I turn he's in the corner I'm like what are you doing,
he's like no no no okay don't worry come on over here hey,
Jay over here talking to us let's go and we all having a conversation so we
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got in this area we all going in don't touch him we good he good to go So let's get in.
I'm like, all right. When Jay come in, he's like, what the fuck? I'm like, yep.
We had six poles, strippers, 20 strippers. Poles everywhere.
There was poles everywhere. I love it. I saw. I love it. He was like,
where do you want to sit? I was like.
Not on that couch. I can tell you that. I saw some couch. You should have sat
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on the couch. No, that couch looked like it had been sat on by a wolf.
You're a poor man. So it definitely didn't. No.
There were book lights. Everybody that sat on that couch.
Definitely. We thought it was a lot of shit. The couch was out.
I told you. I already went to the folding chair. I was that desperate.
Everybody that sat on that couch.
Multiple strippers would come and dance. and you just sit there and just drive.
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But Jay was sitting by himself. I'm glad you didn't sit on the couch.
I would've been stuck. And the crazy part is, he literally went up.
He literally stuck. So why is he by himself?
I'm okay. Because I'm trying not to do something stupid.
Why are you by yourself? No, go get him. So when I said to get over and get
him and I seen him run, but I never knew because the chair was moving. That chair?
I swear to God, you know, like when you sit on something and it gives a certain
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amount and you're like, if I let my knees not take over right now,
100% going to bust my ass right in front of everybody.
The other thing I saw that night was I saw two rival stripper groups get into
a fight in the parking lot.
And I think that was more slutty. Yeah.
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When he called me, I was like, what? Hey, the crazy part is everybody was inside.
They were outside fighting, so everybody come out. We watched because we took
a small chronic break, you know, enjoying.
Taking a small chronic break. We just didn't get it all in. And I tell the DJ,
you know, relax, get you some water. We can all go outside and hang out for a minute.
And we go outside, these 16 females out of the two. Earrings coming off.
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That's ridiculous. And they're mad because I called two different groups of
strippers to get 20. They was like, you shouldn't call one. Who are you talking to? That's my money.
Man, I do what I want. When the one group leveled up on him and started doing
a little bit dirtier stuff, the other group got mad. And they leveled up.
And started telling them that it was competition. It was competition.
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Well, that was a good show. That was a good night. What a great show.
That was a good night. There was fire. Yes.
I think it was good for competition. It was everything but fighting.
It was good for competition. It was everything but fighting.
They were leveling up. We wouldn't let them fight.
So they go in there and do some even worse. That girl shot that fire.
I was like, oh, her body went on fire.
I was like, oh, that scared me. And then other girls said, oh,
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we going to do this and do that. I was like this. They were like hanging upside down.
Shooting Ronan candles but the dumbest this was the dumbest thing and I love
I like strippers don't get me wrong but some of them don't think correctly most,
what happened when I say don't think correctly so they some of them started
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heading to the car and I said y'all still got like two hours why y'all leaving
they ain't got no more money I said who ain't got no money.
Well, they told me they got the most singles. Y'all got all the singles.
Why don't you offer them change?
Yeah. Why don't you give us back the goddamn singles and take the big bills?
Yeah. Go on. That makes you, yeah. Exchange and exchange. And they was like,
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all of them had the mouth flying. Oh, I said, I'm done.
Yeah. You should walk around and say, who needs singles? And all of a sudden,
the girls come back to us and say, hey, who needs singles? Everybody.
The Wolf Club. Everybody. Nobody. You sure? Come on. You got all the singles.
Can we have them back? We can buy them from you.
Yeah, I'm not buying a lap dance for $20. I just told you, it's 20 strippers.
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Y'all got all, you at least, if you got $100 in there, that's $2,000 worth of singles.
That was pretty good. If that, it's way more than that.
It's like a light bulb went ahead. They all got in the car and said,
oh yeah, let's go get some fun. I was like, yo.
Yeah, I bet they knew that for the rest of their career. I couldn't believe
it. And the grocery store is starving.
Yeah, locked in the grocery store is starving. well there you have it that's
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why they're shippers you know what usually they're smart with shit like that was,
usually that's the shit they're good at exactly be good at your business I mean
if it's dollar bills you should have the economic understandings to be able to change,
I mean if I'm going to have to get naked and do some shit I'm at least going to get paid,
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I'm going to know how something gets to me and I can increase the amount And
even if you tell us, I'm going to walk out with a garbage bag full of wands.
Wow, you can walk out with half a garbage bag full of hundreds.
Yeah. That sounds like one of those riddles that my uncle told me when I was a kid.
Keep dancing. We'll get the 10. Turn these up. Take these wands.
They're going to keep throwing the wands. As long as they keep getting change.
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But not real change, Gary. You cannot throw change. Don't throw no coins at him. Gary throws coins.
I did it one time. He makes it rain. I made it hail. Yes.
Wait, what? He threw coins at a stripper. I was in Canada and I was real drunk.
And I'm not allowed in Canada anymore. But for different reasons.
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And I went and gave him $50 for singles. And they gave me all these coins.
I'm like, what the fuck? I don't want coins. coins and they're like in canada
coins are one dollars or coins i'm like
well i don't want those i'm like give it back to me he's like we can't exchange canadian
money for american money like you're holding my 50s still
i'm like just hand it right back to me like we sure yeah i tried and he fucking
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like moved back he's like i don't give a fuck what you do with those but you're
not getting this back i'm like you don't care what i do with them so i get as
many in my hand as i could and i fucking roll back in this room at the stage
as hard as i fucking could and uh it just passed the shit out of everybody.
Gary, I'll tell you more. Our lady took a fucking coin right to the teeth. Right to the teeth.
She was up and down spinning at her favorite song, came around the pole and
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took a fucking coin. Looney.
Like one of them Canadian looney or tuning coins. And if he threw it with all
of that force, that shit hurt. Yes, it did.
I got fresh Prince of Bel-Air out the front door. I was like jazz going,
fucking flying out the fucking front door.
My friends didn't even make it in yet. they were smoking outside when I went
in to get the change they didn't even make it in yet and I got just tossed damn
Gary like really that quick Gary we just got here.
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They weren't surprised yeah you got the rep to go with it we're going to be
supporting this in it too alright guys thank you so much super excited to have
you here now we're going to have some barbecue amen,
love it Gary always good pleasure
meeting you pleasure meeting you Gary next time I'd like
to meet you I told you I had black friends he got a picture of us we really
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are his friends I'm like what's your black friend's name he's like Dre that sounds real,
he's on a chronic album yeah,
cool NWA yeah no choice oh yeah love you guys alright man remember everybody
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be cool and keep learning.
Music.