Meet masters of graphic design Nick Stephenson, instructor at Penn College, and Ali Petrizzi, graphic design alum and senior UX designer at Microsoft. Ali graduated just a few years ago, but the duo's dynamic feels more like old friends than anything else. We explore what it means to be a graphic designer, possible career paths, freelance opportunities, Ali's obsession with experiments and evidence, AI, and loads more. Nick tells some childhood stories. Ali shares why data doesn't lie. There's a lot to learn in this action-packed episode. Hang on for the ride!
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