#23 God | Examining the world, eating @$$, societal programming - Bang Two Three Podcast

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Thank you for listening. Why you make musicinstead of do some other shit like write poetry? Oh

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no, don't get me wrong. I mean music is poetry.Music is poetry. But I write poetry too. I'm just
creative in general. But as far as what I got to sayand speaking to people, I think music is something
that a lot of people indulge in. So I try to talk topeople in a lot of ways. So music is just, I just

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happen to know a lot of people in the music industryand music just kind of fell onto me. So I was like
whatever, let me go ahead and do it. Hold up. Whatyou mean you know people in the music industry?
What you rich or something, man? What you got someconnections? No, I mean. You got Jay-Z on Speed
Dough? No, he said Jay-Z on Speed Dough. No, he saidrich. I mean not from a societal perspective, no.

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Rich within myself, that's a part of the problemthough is it's so many definitions of what rich is
on this planet. There is, right? So if you were toask me, am I rich? How many other people can say that
they're God and not be looked at like an embassy? Tome that's real wealth, right? But so many people

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are kind of caught up living on the surface and notreally understanding how life itself works. But
as far as that, not all Jay-Z's, but I got somepeople. I got some people. Hold up, man. You sound
like my old roommate. Tell me, okay, so you saypeople don't understand how life works and shit.

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And I agree with you, but explain what you mean ifyou don't mind. I mean, okay, so you have the way
things are and then the way things that you're toldthings are. And most people don't realize the way
things are because whenever you're born intowhatever society you're born into, whatever
group of power, whoever the ruling class is,whatever person has power over whatever society

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you're born into, they sculpt your mind's eye oryour perspective on what life is. They sculpt it in
a way that helps them stay where they are. So a lot ofpeople only view the world through a scope or a lens
that's been crafted for them rather than what itactually is. What's an example of that? Because

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people, if someone hears that, they're going tothink, oh, this guy's fucking crazy. What's an
example of what you talk about? Because I couldthink of a couple examples, but I want you to tell
me. Yeah, yeah, so this could be controversial tohalf and half. But as far as one that I give people an
example of a lot is like gangs, right? Werecognize, in America, we recognize gangs as like

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the Bloods and the Crips, KKK, Latin Kings orwhatever, right? And those are gangs, right? But
on a bigger scale, and whenever I tell people this,it kind of sounds goofy at first until they
actually recognize I know what I'm speakingabout. You can America, Canada, Russia, it's all,

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that's like, so you get on the news, right? And it'slike the Bloods and the Crips just had a gang war and
three random people got killed, right? And it'slike, yeah, that's terrible. But it's like, you
turn on the news and you see Russia and Ukraine,they got flags the same way that the Bloods and

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Crips have red and blue flags. They have flags.It's all a turf war, right? What do gangs do? They
dispute over turf. That's what countries, as weknow them today, right? There's no difference
between what they are. It's just that they're morepowerful. They've got more influence. Their
presence is larger. And they have the power to makepeople look at them in whatever light that they

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want the people to view them in because they forceus to go to their schools, right? So we have to,
everything we know about life is given to us bythem, right? They force us to behave in certain
type of ways. And if you behave in a way that theydon't like, then you can find yourself in prison.

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You can find yourself killed or you can find themharassing you. And it's like, it's right in front
of our faces, but it's like hidden at the same time,right? Because a lot of people would argue that,
but then it's like, nah, bro, like, that's whyRussian people love Russia so much and hate
America because that's the perspective thatthey've been given. That's why American people
love America and hate every other country, right?Because that's the perspective that they've been

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given. And same thing with like religions,everybody, whatever, whatever, and marketing,
they got the same, right? And marketing, if you getthem while you're young, you have them forever,
right? So they advertise and market to kids. Andthat's what is going on in the world too, right?
It's like, obviously people grow up and people,but the majority of people, because you always

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like get those people who are like, nah, I don'tbelieve this. I don't, and it's like, but yeah, but
most people, this is true too. Obviously, there'sgoing to be exceptions and outliers, but for the
most people, whatever they learn while they'reyoung, they like, how many, how many people still
believe that if you turn the light on in your carwhen you're driving, the cops will pull you over,
right? Like that's something, that's somethingin the black community that we got a lot, right? So

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it's like, whatever, you're taught to be aChristian when you're young. You're taught to be a
Muslim when you're young. You're taught you'reAmerican or whatever, right? Most, most people
don't come off of that because they just accept itto be, to be true. And it's because when you're
impressionable and when everybody around you isdoing the same thing, it's like that herd

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mentality. Like it makes you feel like it's right.Or when it's taught to you by who we're taught, like
these are credible people. So whatever thesepeople say is true versus what these people say is
incorrect. And it's just like, there's a lot. Imean, there's a lot. Yeah. Hey, and you know, kids
are impressionable. And then the same thing withlike authority figures. Man, listen, if my dad

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would have told me to eat a box of crayons, I wouldhave did that shit, right? Because I didn't know no
better. But like, oh, oh, this is just what foodtastes like. You know, I was talking to my, to my
little sister-in-law. She's in high school rightnow. And she was like, oh, man, I love learning
about the Holocaust and shit like that. And I waslike, oh, yeah, man, the Holocaust is fucked up.
You know, they killed all them damn Jews and shit.But I was thinking, I was like, you know what? I

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said, if America killed a million Jews in theHolocaust, let's just say hypothetically, this
shit happened. You think we would know about it?Hell no. But you think you think I bet they would
know about it in Italy and Germany and all thatshit. They're going to teach them. It's the same
thing you was talking about, man, they teach youwhatever the fuck they want. And then you get a
little bit older and it's like, damn, you know, Ithink about that same thing. You talk about the

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laws. Yo, people like people just accept now that,oh, yeah, I could go to jail for smoking a blunt, but
I could be drunk as shit on the on the on the streets.And it's good. Yo, anybody who smokes some weed and
drink some alcohol, we all know which one's worse,but once it gets along, the other one's not. You

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know, it's just crazy. We just accept a lot of shitand make sure you question like the whole fucking
world, man. Yeah, bro, it's crazy. You say that,right? So the second track of the project that I
just dropped, Burn Your Maps, there's a line that Isay is they've been pushing propaganda all over
the TV channels, got you running to the schoolswhere they teach you to follow suit. And if you
think for yourself, RIPC is compliance that theyvalue more than any form of currency. And I say that

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because I'm trying to get people to like look atthings how they are, right? Because it's like, if
you get labeled a criminal in whatever societythat you're in, for most people are going to look at
you in a negative light because of how we've beentaught to look at criminals. But like to become
like to be, if you ask someone, what's a criminal,like, they'll give you their definition. But like
to become a criminal, it doesn't necessarily meanthat you did something that's morally justified

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or something that's right or wrong. It means thatyou did something that the people who have the
power over your society dislike. For instance, inthe 1800s, in the 1800s, if you were a slave and you
ran for your freedom, you're a criminal, right?You like, that's just how that's just how it was,
right? And it's like smoking, smoking weed.Everybody who smokes weed, right? Who actually

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smokes weed understands that like there'snothing wrong with smoking weed, right? But
because, you know, we get the indoctrination andthe implicit bias and and the propaganda, like, I
don't know if you did dare in school, like we have tosing the dare. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're like, see,
like they fill our minds with all of this, like theway that they want us to view the world from such an

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early age. And then like you see like peoplesmoking weed on TV and they like get all goofy and
it's like, nigga, that ain't what like we used toknow. Like, but like most people don't know that
because I found that like most people either justtell you they're regurgitating information,
right? And it's like, y'all don't have anyexperience with any of this stuff that you're
telling me. And I remember like, you know, theycall weed a gateway drug. It's not, I don't think

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it's because like it's an actual gateway drug. Ithink it's because like they spend so much time
telling us how bad weed is. Then you finally tryweed and you're like, this is not even close to what
they said. And then you're like, what else are theylying about? So now niggas get to try and mad heroin
and, and, and, and, and like, that's got to be,that's got to be the reason it's got to be. Yo, and I

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never thought about that because you write as akid, this is so demonized to wear a deferred. Maybe
the first time you puffed to join whoever he'slike, man, I better look both ways, you know, I got
to look out for my parents and I got to look out forthe laws. Oh fuck. You puffed that joint. It's
like, man, like, like I'm like, oh man, some badshit going to happen. The aliens going to come
down. And next thing I know, I just start feeling,I'm in a good fucking move. God, dog, you know, I'm

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feeling crazy. I'm thinking all kind of crazyshit. You know, I'm thinking I can do shit that I
didn't before. I'm like, damn, I'll startgiggling and shit. I'm like, hold up, like exactly
like what you said. It's like, damn, this is some ofthe best shit I have experienced in my whole damn
life. You know, it's, it's like shit. So you write.It's like, man, what else out there that they told
me not to do? Can what should I go try? Man, maybe Ishould do a little bit of cocaine, a little meth.

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You, like, he said, look, to be honest, I'm a, I'm avery, like, as I've like gone through life, I've
become a very experienced, based person. Right.And, uh, I do like there's certain, I do want to try
like he said, like meth, like jokingly, right? Butlike, if I was in a controlled area, just to have the
experience, like, cause I've, I've looked at itand like apparently like that should be hitting

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people to where like they swallow the 10. It'slike, I don't want none of that. But if I was in like a
controlled space with like doctors and nurses orsomeone around me to where I'm like, I want to try
this just to see like what it actually is. Cause Ilike, if I don't have an experience, then then
that's just knowledge that I'm missing out.Right. It's like, I just got to go off of somebody
else's word. Um, backtracking it a little bitthough. Like you said something interesting

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earlier about the Holocaust. You said, if Americadid something like that, most people wouldn't
know. You know, it's crazy. It's right around theHolocaust, right after the Holocaust, during the
Holocaust, right? During World War II. Uh,America was damn near took Hitler's, uh,
playbook. They didn't do it to his large of a scale,but they were doing it to Japanese people. Uh, they
threw them in what they called Japaneseinternment camps where they were literally

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ripping Japanese people out of their homes, out oftheir houses, taking their businesses. And they
were putting them in concentration camps, butthey called them Japanese internment camps.
Like, uh, yeah, bro. So you, you're spot on withthat. It's like they, it wasn't as atrocious as the
Holocaust, but like people were getting killed.People were dying a lot of people lost it like
people were ruined because of this right butAmerica is so so America is So there they want you to

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view them as the victors in everything if you'reAmerican Right, so they're not gonna tell you
about their about their blemishes like you mightlearn this in like a deep American history class or
something like that Right So yeah, like J. Coleonce said like one thing about the men that's
controlling the pen that write history Theyalways seem to white out their sins and that's true
in every single society regardless if it's anAmerican or Russian or Damn or whatever bros is

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true Hell yeah, and that that's the thing too likewe so in our lifetimes We have some some historic
ass shit happen like we had the Iraq war and Theystill don't like to talk about all the fucking
Civilians we bomb the fuck up right we had some shitlike George Floyd. We had Rodney King We had all
this shit you think in 80 years Do you think GeorgeFloyd's gonna be in history books you think Rodney

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King gonna be in history books? Hell not only thingthe only reason we know about that shit is because
we was alive bro, and they you know They theycovered that shit. It's like that's the only
reason we know our kids are probably gonna grow upand shit Same thing we're like covert and all of
that like the history that we experience It'sgonna be a whole different tale like they gonna

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spin that shit by the time we have kids and shit Theygonna be like oh, you know man, there was never any
uh police brutality. I'm so glad that that shit isgoing be like hold up Like man, we live this shit.
It's a big-ass thing But man and the same thing likewith that with that Japanese shit. I heard a little
bit about that But that's some crazy ass shit thatJust don't nobody talk about man. That was before

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our lifetimes, but don't nobody know yeah, bro II'm not gonna lie to you like I've never Looked at it
from that angle of like how much of what we've gonethrough in our society It's just gonna be
forgotten by cuz it's like damn I wonder how muchlike that like maybe our parents grandparents
great Like what do they know that like they maybehave gotten numb to or forgot because society just

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moved on bro That's crazy cuz like that's a goodpoint man And then like you said you you had another
bar earlier, bro You were talking about like Iraqright cuz I'd be trying to like I'd be trying to get
people a new perspective Right cuz AmericaAmerica when we're in America like we look at all of
like everyone else's terrorist And they look at usas terrorists and it's like what people don't
understand is it's like bro Let's say that likeyour country like was that war with another

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country and you're just the innocent little kidRight, you just was born on this motherfucker and
you're doing whatever and you don't know likeright like you wake up one day Your parents are
doctors good people next thing, you know You see anAmerican flag and in a bunch of ships and they
dropping bombs on your people You're gonna grow upand like you're viewing America as terrorists and
now like you grow up and you're pissed at America Solike and I'm an American kid now and my parents go to

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work one day and next thing you know I get a calltalking about some ayo a big-ass airplane just
just flew into the building that your pops works innow I'm like well fuck those are the terrorists,
but they're just trying to avenge their people andnow we just got this big-ass cycle of hatred and
bullshit because people don't know how to mindtheir business bro like People yeah, yeah and and

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this this just happened in America now So you thinkif you what it this shit happens everywhere I mean
this shit so like let's say hypothetically youeight years old you in school and you get your ass
jump you get jump by Who some gang the bloods andthey jump you and then a week later? They jump you
again. They take your sneakers then two weekslater. They jump you again. They take your lunch

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money You don't think you gonna grow up say man.Fuck the bloods fuck the bloods That's the same
thing they doing over there in the Middle East justlike you said it's like man You know what I kiss my
dad goodbye in the morning. He went to work. Henever come home All they said they seen that the
plane flying in the sky had the American flag blewup my dad man Fuck America and can you blame the kid?

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I can't blame that kid man if that kid came over hereand bomb You know fucking Walmart. I'm gonna be
honest like that's fucked up, but shit. Can youblame dude? You know we humans man man I'm so happy
that you that you phrased it like that like you growup and you get jumped and then you get harassed And
you grow up and it's like man. Fuck them bloodsright because We can we can talk about a real-life

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experience of this too is this like There's thisthere's this there's this famous rap group right
and they grew up They grew up getting like beat up bythis one particular gang like they will get
harassed by this gang They get they asked be by thisgang that homies was killed by this gang and all
that and then one day They had enough and they made asong called fuck the police right fuck the police
Yeah, straight from the underground young niggagot it bad cuz I'm brown cuz he brought right, but

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it's like That's actually that's actual gangviolence But the problem is and like the reason
that like it was so so difficult for a lot of peopleto accept this is because They had so much time to to
to create an image of what like the police I'mspeaking about to create an image of what they are
and to say that we uphold these morals and we upholdthese values but the thing that people seem to

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forget is it's like Regardless of what I say likepeople are still gonna be people right and it's
like for instance Right, I'm gonna take it back toslavery and Jim Crow for just a second And I know
like because people don't understand but likewhat people got to understand is it's like So when
when the South lost the war right all that means isthat the North had more manpower and more
firepower to influence their will Right thatdoesn't mean that like overnight niggas are like,

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okay now. We love all black people It's like notlike they they just lost like they was fighting to
keep slaves and to keep hating on like whoeverright but uh, but uh So now they're the whole way of
life gets tarnished And they're still teachingtheir kids to look at like black or the slaves or
black people as beneath them right and it's likepeople Think that these kids just disappear, but

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it's like not these kids grow up. They becomelawmakers. They become congressmen They become
teachers school bus drivers business ownerspolice officers Like they go out into society with
the with the warped mindset or perspective of lifethat they've been given and not only are they
passing that on to Their kids right but they'repast if they become a teacher It becomes it ripples
throughout the way that they teach and the way thatthey that they interact with other people if they

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become a Lawmaker right if there's a ripple effecton the laws that get created all simply because
they're looking at people as less than right I wasat this church the other day and I seen something
and I and I peeped it and I didn't know if I was beinglike if I was looking too deep into it But I'm pretty
sure I saw what I saw right based off the energy thislittle black I saw a little white kid walk up for a

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donut or I saw a white kid walk up for a donut brokeout his donut Right then a little black kid came in
right after and the lady was acting like she didn'tsee him for a little bit I'm just sitting in the back
watching and like she's like like And I'm like andthen she like walks up and she's like oh like I
didn't see and I'm like But it's like those nuancedthe nuanced the nuanced treatment of people And

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it's like bro like That mindset didn't disappearand that's just like now they're racist and police
officers and now they're the race Racist andlawmakers and it's like that's like it's real life
bro Like but people haven't people haven't seen itfrom that light yet Yeah, and you know what what's
gonna happen too. So, you know slavery was a whileback But you know what it's like now it's shit like

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gay marriage, right? So like in our lifetimes itwas illegal to be married gay now It's just legal
and so same thing you just said like this bias andall of this shit that goes in it's like hey, man You
know the the people who were raised like that Hey,you know they they got like passed that down to
their kids and shit and this shit's always gonnahappen as as we You know change in morph like back in

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the day. Hey, it was illegal to be free if your skinwas black Now like thank God we progressed past
that bullshit and now We dealing with shit likehey, it's illegal to get married if you gay So we
progress past that but like damn what what youthink the next frontier is man me I like me honestly
like and this is why I say that right because for acouple of reasons the first one is a Because of like

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me being who I am right every y'all see the namebecause of me being God, right like it's actually
true I like I understand life from the perspectivethat we've been given But I also understand it from
like a more realistic and like when it comes to likethings like marriage, right? Like marriage is is
cool and all I guess it's it's really just aconstruct by society, right? Like it is when I was

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in I had a history teacher or an American historyteacher He once said something along the lines of
we were talking about like gay marriage orsomething like that and he said uh He said his
opinion. He said if you if you actually lovesomebody He said people want to get married
because of the tax benefits or because of what he'slike if you actually love somebody Why not just get
a rent or like it's like a piece of paper Doesn'tdefine your love. He's like people so and I'm like

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bro. That's true, right? Like I'm like that's heactually like spit right there, right? and I'm and
it's like So that part for marriage, right? It'slike if I love somebody like I don't need a you feel
me But then like on the other hand like when you'retalking about the gay part too Is this like this
might be a little wild to like some people But thisis the life that I live right because this is like
I'm just I'm just a lit ass nigga, right? So it'slike yo man. Hey, see what the fuck you gotta say man

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Hey, you think they're all spot man sit the fuck youguys say Say what I mean you think I'm a lizard
person call me out man Well, no, I held on what I wasabout to say I got to the point I got to the point so
I'm so confident in myself and what I can do that itlike This is about to sound odd. I got tired of like I
was like I'm like, bro any girl I want like I could Icould Any female I grew I grew like also bro the

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thing when I bro. I'm telling you like The theamount of access that females allow me right like
people I know people be scoping it like I'll meet afemale like off jump like we already hugging and
like like already I don't want to take it toovargable like I've already got like access to do
just cuz I'm cuz I'm me and then I'm like And then I'mlooking I'm like I notice how like at first it's not

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I'm like I notice like I'm like I'm sexy It's fuckright so I notice how people who called themselves
So it's like so it's like I was shit nigga like Idon't give a fuck nigga I'm sexy like I look in the
mirror all the time I get it too So like I startmessing around with like with them just and then
I'm like I want I'm like I wonder if I could take thisfar enough to where it's like a nigga who said bro I

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did ask I could pull anybody on this planet if Iwanted to like not on no like Gay straight by just me
being who I am and just me being like lit and likeunderstanding like Rocker is of anybody like it
don't matter like and that's why I'm at so I thinkthat's the next frontier is like I be telling
people uh people have like asked me like a yo likeso-and-so like they want to come out or they want to

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Do this or they want to do that and I'm like why do youwant to come out and they're like cuz and I'm like
yeah But like who are you telling I was like you knowyou like man or you know you like females or like why
like are you coming out like? It's your life,right? So why do you got a broadcast to everybody
else like it's like allow them to just watch youlive and make assumptions You don't got to tell
like the straight people like this a yo guess whatbro. I'm straight. It's like nah, bro All right,

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like that's that's the next frontier is likeminding your business. That's what it is Yo, man, I
can't wait till we get to that fucking frontier.What? Hey, what's your secret man? How you pulling
all of these women and man and all that what you whatyou tell them you what you whisper something in
there Like what you you lick on their ears orsomething? I probably could to be honest. No, I'm
really I'm really just myself bro like Life whatyou do cook walk me through you see the girl in the

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bar that Walmart whatever what's your game plan?What you doing next? It really depends on the
energy but like so last night I was at this littlefunction I was at this little event And I just walk
up and I start talking to people and then like youknow like Dependent on so I was I was there to like
get some more contacts and something but like soI'm talking in like Just through conversation,
you know, like I touch people when I touch peoplewhen we talk, I lean on people, I put my arm around

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people, but I do it, I do it in a way to where it'slike, it ain't like, it's just me, right? It's,
that's how I like, I don't, if it's a man or a femaleor a fucking woman or a child, like I, I, I'm, I'm,
I'm handy. I touch, I, I interact with people when Italk, like, I tap on, cause it's like, if someone,
if someone, like, I feel like it's ways to makepeople more, more comfortable. I noticed that

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like, a lot of people have like social anxiety orlike when they go out, like, I don't know if you go
out often, but like, you can kind of tell peopledrift from place to place, trying to find like a
place to where like, they don't want to be alone.Cause if they look alone, it's like, they look
awkward. So it's like, whenever I speak to people,it's like, well, how do I make them comfortable?
And it's like, if I'm touching and interactingwith them, it makes, it makes them comfortable,

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right? So it's like, that like, that, I'm just,that's all it is. It's like, I'm just, I'm just, I'm
just me. And I'm just like, I'm a good person,confident in myself, confident in what I can do.
And like, they feel it. You got the sauce. I am thesauce. Oh! That's what it is. That's what it is. Yo,

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man, teacher class, bro. Yo, hey, especiallynowadays, you know how many people will buy that
shit? Because I feel like a lot of people,especially maybe like a little bit younger, yo,
these people scared to talk to people, theyanti-social and shit. So they looking for a magic
pill. Yeah, give me a course. Get, you know, get,get four, you know, sex with four girls in five

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days. Shit, man, you be a millionaire.Millionaire. You feel me like the secret is just be
yourself. That's it. Like, I can't. But there's alot of lame ass dudes. Hey, come on, you, you can't
say that. Cause you're a cool ass dude, man. Youcool as fuck. But, hey, what, what if like, I'm some
little nerdy dude. And it's like, all I do is likelogarithm equations in my head or whatever. And

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no, don't no girl want that. So, I mean, come on,man, you, if you lame as hell, like, and let, let's
say you hold on, hold on, let's, let, let's take astep forward. Let's say you lame as shit and you
don't want no lame chick. You want like, like,let's say you a nerdy, you a nerdy white dude and you
want a black girl, not a, not just a black girl, likea dark skin, black girl built like, like a, like

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Megan Good, you know, big thick ass. It's like,man, I'm just trying to bury my face in that ass. I'm
a little nerdy dude. How, how, how I get her, man. Ican't get a B of myself. What's your advice? No,
man, you definitely could like, so like, cause I,so one thing that I be telling people is like
rejection, right? Like I've had, I've taken heatfrom this before, right? Cause I tell people it's

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like this. Like I hit people say, if a girl tells youno, then like leave it alone. And to me, this is me.
Everybody can't do this, right? Becauseeverybody buy to me, no, just means I'm not
interested. Make me interested, but don't becreepy about it. Right? Make me interested, but
don't be weird. Make me interested, but don'toverstep boundaries. That's what, when, if

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someone tell me, you know, that just mean like, oh,you just telling me I'm not interested enough,
right? So it's like, I'm going to just step up the,like to me, it's like, all right, we, you playing
the game. Like, cause it's like, I know, I know deepdown, if you want to admit it or not. Like I'm the
nigga you want to be around. I know deep down, likeyou want to talk to me. So it's like, if you playing a
game, like if you don't want to lose, I'm just goingto win. And like it always like, you feel me? Like

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it's like, it's just like that, bro. Everywhere Ibe, like the females is right next to me. Everybody
be around bro, because I'm just like, I'm me bro,I'm lit. As simple as that. So like, you just got to
know how to, how to, how to play the game. You justgot to know how to make them interested. Yeah.
Especially whenever they be like, no, I'm, I'mbusy. I'm busy. I don't want to talk to you. Like

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there's a, there's a certain vibe they give like,no, I'm good. Like they, they kind of, they kind of
like that game, that hard to get game. And yo,that's the game. A lot of dudes are willing to play.
So if you willing to play that game, like you, yo,you'll be swimming in pus. Man. I mean, yeah. And
it's not even, it's not even just like, it's noteven just like that. Cause like some people just
like to be difficult, to be difficult. And it'slike, cause at the end of the day, like most

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females, this is true. Like most females are usedto being the trophy, right? But it's like me, I have
the understanding of like, like, yeah, but likeI'm the actual trophy, right? It's like, so it's
like, I know that you feel like, but it's like, I'mactually the trophy, like any, any nigger in this
building or any female in this building, right?Like to all, I'm the, I'm the trophy, right? And

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it's like, I know that they know that, right? Butlike, so they still like to try to play. Well, I
don't, girls don't really play too many games withme. Actually, like these days, like it just be a
vibe. We just be living like, I've been trying tomake people comfortable and confident in
themselves, right? Because it's like, I know, Iknow I could pull anybody, right? I know I could. I
know I can, I know like, it's like, I know that.Right? It's like, it ain't, it ain't, I'm not being

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cocky. No, it's just like, it's just the life that Ilive, right? So it's like, yeah, I just be
chilling, bro. I'll be trying to pick up people'sspirits and whatnot. Hey, and that's, that's a key
little thing there too, because a lot of people,that's a lot of miserable ass people out there.
And, and we all know these people, they be outthere. They just like, they always want to hang
out. Hey, yo, hey, yo, when can we hang out? When canwe hang out? But you never want to hang out with

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them. Because after you hang out with them, you'relike, damn, I just, I don't feel good. Like I, I
can't explain it, but she's like, I don't want to dothat shit again. That's the thing, like people,
people really remember how you make them feel moreso than anything you do. Like I could get off this
conversation. I'd be like, man, I don't, you know,I don't ever really want to talk to that dude. And I
don't, I can't say why. I can't say why. Or it couldbe the opposite. I could be like, damn, man, I

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gotta, I gotta talk to this dude again. I don't knowwhy I just, I just feel fucking good. And so if you
can make people feel fucking good, men, women,anything in between, dogs, cows, man, people come
back, especially now that, man, people, that'ssome toxic ass people out there, man. Yeah, nah,
like I be, I be, so I be speaking and I be tellingpeople all the time, like be yourselves. And, but

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then like, I always got to make sure I double downand be like, but toxic people, this ain't for
y'all, like, cause it's really, I just madeInstagram posts like, bro, it's really people,
it's really people walking around beingintentionally goofy. And it's like, bro, like
when I'm telling people to be you, and like, I'm nottalking to them, right? I'm not talking to like
them. Like some of y'all actually do, I be tellingpeople don't change who you are, nah, some of y'all

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actually need to change because like some of y'allare life goofy out here, bro. And it's like, that's
like, we don't need that type of, that type ofenergy. And like, as far as that misery and stuff
goes, bro, like I done kicked it around people wholike, as I was trying to figure out more about my,
and just learn like, I was like, I liked beingaround these people, but like it was always a
challenge to like kick it with some, now I'm at thepoint where I don't think that would bother me too

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much because I love myself enough and I'mcontending enough with myself. Now there is
certain people, or there's been like, sometimeswhere I'm like, I don't wanna attach myself to this
type of energy, but like, it's to the point now towhere it's like, I didn't figure out time and
energy is kinda like, to me it's kinda like money,right? And it's like, so I say it like this, if I give

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you time, if I give you my time, right? You can, likejust cause I tell you to spend it one way, don't mean
you gotta spend it like that, right? It's like, if Ilook at you and, or it's like, if I disrespect you,
or like I say something crazy to you, you can eitheruse that like the way I told you to use it, or you

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could flip it and turn it into something else, andthat's what I do. And it's like, if I threw a stack of
hundreds at you, right? And it's had a big asssocket and it's like, hey, go to Weight Watchers,
fat ass. And that's just like, you're gonna go toWeight Watchers, you're gonna spend that, you're
gonna spend that on what you wanna spend it on,right? So it's like, if you're giving me your time,
like, and you call me like a dumb ass, you'redisrespectful, like you're giving me time, like

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you're giving me attention, so I'm not gonna spendthat attention on what you wanted to, I'm gonna
spend it on what I wanna spend it on. And that'sreally what it's been lately, like, last night I
had somebody like, come at me in a weird way to wherelike, I was vibing, we was all vibing, and then
like, he just was like, angry about something. Andit's like, I could have put the anger back in, but I

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was like, ah, I was like, ah, like, that's where I'mlike, ah, what I do to disrespect you? And he's like
talking and like, you know, I just was having a goodtime. And it's like, he kind of made himself like
look like a dickhead because every, like, I hadalready kicked it with his homies. And they're
like, bro, like, what are you doing? Like, why areyou behaving like that? And it's like, yeah,
that's what it is, that's where it's at. Yo, I likepeople that's a little crazy, like a little wild,

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you know, people who say like some weird ass shit,like, you'll just be hanging out with them. You
know, maybe you talking basketball or somethinglike that, they got to play all song. And they just
be like, man, I don't give a fuck what nobody says, Iain't walking up no damn stairs. Like, what the
fuck you talking about, man? Like, man, shut thefuck up, get this damn ketchup off the table. Like,

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I like people like that, I like some weird asspeople like that, people like that, just because
everybody trying to make sense nowadays and becool. That's like, I like a dude who just or a chick
who just likes weird, you know, maybe a smidge ofmental illness is fun. No, it's crazy. You say
like, I think what it is is like, people like to beentertained, right? That's why like, you go out

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and you see two people fighting. That's why like alot of that draws crowds, right? Like, people like
to be entertained. And my thing is, it's like, I'verecognized that there's certain things in this,
there's certain things in the world thatentertain people more than others right now. And
some of it is a little toxic or like messed up. Andit's like, so it's like, how do I, how do I bring

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forth entertainment that can like surpass likefighting somebody, but like still offer the
entertainment? Cause like people, it doesn'tmatter what it is. I could be, I could be giving
people something that will sell their life. Like,hey yo, I got the cure to all of your problems right
here. And it's like, but if there's two niggas inthe corner fighting, they're gonna go over to
those two people fighting because it's moreentertaining, right? So like once I figure out how

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to become more entertaining than that, now it'sall eyes on me, right? And I get to finally tell
people like, hey yo bro, like don't do this, don'tdo that. Like don't do this, don't do that type of
deal. Yeah, yeah. And you know, you're doing theright thing with podcasts and shit too, because
I'd be podcasting with some people, some smart asspeople like some fucking physicists and shit like
that. And they take themselves so serious. Andlike they have to be fucking correct. Everything

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they have to say has to be right. They have to like,it's like they're reading a fucking book. I try to
tell these people, I'm like, man, listen, you mayhave discovered like the fucking cure to cancer.
But if this podcast is boring, ain't nobody gonnalisten to this shit, man. So that's why this
podcast shit is real good for that. Just to be ableto talk and just get your words out better than

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someone else. Like you said, it's a good way toentertain somebody because ain't nobody trying
to fight in the street, man. They got UFC fightersand shit out there. Ain't nobody doing that shit
against them. You never know what somebody know.Bro, I'm like, bro, you hit it too. Like, so here's
the thing, right? Like, cause I've been in chatsand I've had the opportunity to speak to people who
got some crazy PhDs and stuff. And it's like, Idon't got no PhD or none of that, right? But I'm not

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an idiot, right? Like not only am I very educated,but I'm also very smart, right? And I've had people
try to like test my knowledge to where like I wastalking about quantum entangled particles once
just for a moment, right? And like he was like, somedude brought up, he's like, oh, you're like
something about the wavelength. And I'm like,nah, bro, you're talking about the double slit
experiment. Like don't try to play me like I'mstupid, right? Like I know what I'm talking about.

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Like just cause I don't got no p. So like, but thething about being educated versus being smart is
this, right? Like when you're an educated person,all that means is that you understand the
information that has been given to you that isaccepted by your current society. It doesn't mean
that it's factual. It just means that... That'swhat your current society believes when you're
smart you understand that but you can also take itbeyond for instance like Let's say that we lived in

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the Bible era when them niggas thought the earthwas flat, right? You were an educated person if you
knew because that's what they were teaching rightyou were educated if you knew the earth was flat So
let's say that one day I come along and I'm like brothe earth's not fucking flat, right? Because they
all have the education, right? They're gonnathey're gonna look at me like I'm some fucking
idiot because I'm telling I'm telling the truth,but because because I'm not looked at is credible

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and because they all have the same informationThat's been given to them by whoever's educated
them They're looking at me like I'm like I'm anidiot until they realize until they get to the
point where they're like oh shit like for instanceWe have a real-life example Al Gore told a story
once you know Al Gore the nigger who was running forvice president or something back in the day He had a
classmate. They was in class, bro They was lookingat the map and he said hey yo it looked like South

(36:40):
African or South America and Africa used to fittogether like a puzzle piece This is before Panjia
was accepted at least to Al Gore's Al Gore story Andhe asked the teacher and the teacher was like nah,
that's the most preposterous thing I ever heardthat's dumb And then couple years later now we know
Panjia is a real thing like but that and that's whatit is bro like So like people be telling me oh, I got a

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phz and I'm like bro I don't give a fuck about none ofthat all of that is like all this shit that y'all
believe bro like Some it's people on this planetwho still believe that like niggas can actually
walk on water Bro, it like niggas don't get randomrespawn tokens like you can't create life Like you
can't like I can't snap my fingers and put like broBut people believe this stuff because that's the

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education that they've been given so they don'tknow any better Hey, we're not not only that people
like the shit What's an example of some shit likethe big bang theory or some you know all kind of
shit? so 200 years ago We killed George Washingtonby bleeding that motherfucker to death George
Washington had like the flu and it was like oh, Iknow I know how to fix him the president of the

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United States They cut him open like a fish and hebled to death like some crazy shit like this Yeah,
that was the education back in the day. Yo, and thenshit back back in the day with slavery It was like
hey man, I think black people should be free justlike white people shut the fuck up Shut your dumb
ass up So Get his ass out here paint a black and puthim out there with the damn change bro cuz he

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fucking stupid Get it get his ass out there with adamn slave. Oh dumbass Hey And so and so that's the
thing and that's the thing like even even back inthe day with the bubonic plague the flu of 1918 all
this shit like all this shit was mishandled But nowoh no now we know we know everything now We know

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fucking everything like hey you can't questionnothing now You can't question nothing. That's
like in science and nothing like that You know, youdidn't think they have science books back in the
day saying that to If someone got the flu you got ayou got to cut the ass open You know I'm saying so
like there's there's a lot of shit that we think weprobably know now That's like scientific fact and

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shit like that, you know in like a hundred yearsThey're probably like hold up. So whenever people
had cancer We stuck the ass in a tube and build thetube with radiation like what the fuck what they
thinking You know I'm saying like we got some shitwrong now, but we just don't we just don't know what
it is That's the thing you don't know until youdon't know and the thing about like Thanos said it

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in the Avengers like curtain Like the thing aboutknowing is it's like not only do you know like once
you know you can't unknown now You got to convinceeverybody else who thinks they know yeah, you got
to tell them like nah I know this is what you guysbelieve but that shit is not true And then you like
not only like you're fighting against the fuckinghive mind and generations of stupid information

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Bro, that's my like I'll be telling people like broI know y'all like to believe this because all y'all
believe this shit, but it's not true, right? Noneof that shit is true but it's like because it's had
Generations to build and like people have beenbelieving this shit that they've been believing
for like it's like sewn into the fabrics of humansociety a lot of this shit bro and it's like Yeah,

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shit is crazy. Shit is crazy Yeah, bro, there'ssome there's some weird shit. I don't to be honest I
what I do is I go with my own personal experienceover pretty much anything so, you know for example
Like people What's an example like a policebrutality or some shit like that? You know if

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someone states a statistic saying that like, youknow police are great people but me personally
Every police I mess with his assholes. I'm not I'mjust not believing the statistic and I may be
ignorant You know, hey, for example, if I gooutside, I may see the sky is purple, but they like
no, that shit's really blue I'm gonna believe it'spurple, but I'm dumb You know, so that's why I just

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go with personal experience over fuckingeverything Because nowadays too, it's like like
you said with history and shit like that. It's likeMan, look we the country is so powerful companies
are so fucking rich It's like man, you can make upStatistics or whatever you want to prove any point
you want So I just go with my my own personal opinionAnd if I'm wrong, I'm wrong But at least it's based

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on me and not some bullshit, you know Yeah, no, broLike because you hit it on the head like you you can
look up a study Like if I wanted to if I want if Ididn't know anything about any subject, right? I
could look up a pro or cons that argument of it and Iwill have fucking laboratory and like Very fine.
It's like bro. That's what it is. Is it's likeeverybody just wants to be right? COVID's a good

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example of that man Like COVID Yeah, yeah, manSomething studies on both sides, you know Yeah,
bro And it's like because you got so many people whowant to push their agendas or Like so many people
might have a financial interest if it's this way ora financial and it's like the people are so Have
been so brainwashed from the moment that they gotinto whatever society to believe that like oh your

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government or these people care It's like no brolike Just because someone told you that don't make
it true and it's like if you pay attention to thefacts It's like if I care about you, right then I
would listen to what you have to say, right forinstance like uh An easy example, right is to talk
about weed, right? It's like we're at the point nowto where if the government really cared about the

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people how they say We shouldn't even be a Topicbecause it's like the people have made it clear
that like bro. We don't give a fuck what you guys aresaying We're still gonna smoke this shit. We're
still gonna try like to like They're throwingniggas and giving a lot life sentences for eighths
and shit like that to where it's like bro like Yougot to adjust and listen to what the people are

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saying It's like if the people are like their theiractions speak louder than words, but it's like And
the like so the flip of that is like the people got toadjust and listen to what like the government or
the government is saying They're saying that likeBro, we don't give a fuck about y'all like oh It's
your body Your body my choice, bitch You're notallowed to do what you want with your body because I

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got the all I got to do I got with this and the thingabout it is like They're getting worse as we go,
right? Like I just read an article Montanaapparently uh Just banned tick talk and it's like
oh Shit, that's not like that's to me. That's likethat's goofy because it's like Uh, who the fuck you
ought to tell me what I can and can't download on myfucking phone Bro like if I want to download tick

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talk and watch tick talks all day like Illegal it'snot legal for me like bro like that's when it's like
All right now these niggas is getting too powerhungry and they're trying to see what it is that
they can and cannot get Oh, and they spend so muchtime cooking like they spend so much time like
shitting on tick talk publicly that way likewhenever they Whenever they make it illegal the
people are like, oh, yeah, but that's because it'sthat's what they do right like for instance Like

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when it came to weed they spent they had they hadsuch a like long campaign Against marijuana in the
30s and that way when they finally made it illegalthe people didn't question it because They spent
so much time lying and giving their giving the theperspective that they wanted the people to have
right like I know i'm talking about weed but thisworks for everything They spend so much time
giving people the perspective that they need youto have right That way when they get to the

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conclusion that they were already going to get toit doesn't surprise you Which is like another
thing that had like it's another thing thathappens in courts too, bro Like i'm wondering how
many people that are behind bars are actually likefor instance like young thug, bro I don't know if
like if ysl actually did anything crazy, right?But it's like They spend so much time giving us
certain information and facts and they're verycareful on what they leak from the courtroom That

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way like whenever they get to the verdict that theyhave right the people won't be upset because they
spent enough time Getting you to look at it from theway that they want you to look at it Not from the way
that things may actually be bro and it's fucked upbecause like people really walk around like
believing everything that they're told and it'slike People are scared to think for themselves or

(44:38):
use their own mind one because you're not like theydon't teach you how to right The moment you're in
school anytime you try to exercise your freedomLike let's say you you were you got up and you
laughed or told a joke you got to flip your cardright? That's public humiliation right so like it
tells you not to be like that And then it also tellseverybody else like ayo if you do that there's

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gonna be a punishment right So they're teachingthe class do your pain don't behave like him
because if you do this is what's gonna happen to youRight so it's like now people are learning to not
think for themselves and like How to how to haveother people think for them bro and it's it's and
it's fucked up because from the very beginningWhen you use your exercise your own freedom, uh,

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you get shit on for it Yeah, do you eat ass do I eatass? Uh, I have uh, I have not but here's the thing.
Here's the thing about like eating ass andwhatnot, bro Uh, I got this viewpoint to where We do
things we do things that are considered normal byour society right like for instance A couple weeks

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ago somebody asked me what I fuck a horse and likeI'm like To them I was like there's not an easy way to
answer that because I'm like if we lived in asociety where like everybody was Fucking horses.
We'd be fucking horses with no question. It's likeI wouldn't go randomly fuck a horse today But it's
like I'm also of the understanding of like It'slike you people like people suck people suck dick

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today, bro people give head and it's like Couplehundred years ago. They probably wasn't doing
that right? But it's like So you feel me like Ihaven't I haven't but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
like I just got to get to the point to where I'mmentally strong enough to like overcome So what
happened so so you you was with some woman and boyyou seen that the damn brown booty Oh god, damn what

(46:26):
you got you got a little intimidated. It isintimidating. No, you just like damn I I I don't
want to fuck with that man. Fuck No, I just I I I don'tknow man. I just been I just Thankfully haven't
been in a situation to where like But I will say thisthough. I will say this right like I will say this

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right because people laugh at this people like Iwill say this like I'd be wondering what it feels
like to have your ass eight because it's likehere's the thing If females is always asking
niggas to eat they ask it can't feel unpleasantlike it can't you feel me? So I'm like that's how
that's how I'm feeling. But it's like you there'sstill like I would probably try damn near anything

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as long as long as the vibe felt right Like as long asthe energy was like, okay, this is cool. I probably
would try anything Right, but it's like if I'm justlike chilling and then out of the blue. It's like
hey eat my ass or like it's like You feel like Butlike but I like so like as long as the energy is if I
feel comfortable I'll probably do anything if Ilike keeping it in the stack like all right, man So

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hey, let me finish my thing about eating ass, brobecause I feel like I feel like I feel like somebody
on this world needs to hear this, man. Listen, ifyou got on your headphones right now, you
listening and you, you know, your girl been askingyou to eat her ass, but you scared. Man, listen to
this, bro. Don't be scared. That brown, that browndot, that thing's great. But here's my problem.

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Like I said, I don't know what the fuck to do with mytongue. Like I don't know no techniques. Whenever
I'm eating a pussy, it's an amazing thing becausethe clitoris, right? So it's like, yeah, I'm
eating your pussy. And you know, like this thehoney spot, it's like this is where the sugar is.
It's right there. So I'll be like, yeah, I'm a, youknow, I'm a lick your, I'm a lick all around your
pussy. And then I'm a lick the clip, bam, bam, bam.Oh, got you. Then I'm a lick the whole, then I'm a

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lick the clip. Ah, I got you. Oh, then I'm gonna putmy finger in the hole and I'm a lick the clip. Bam.
But it's like, bro, you got that booty hole. And I'mlike, I don't know what the fuck. Like there's no,
there's no rhyme or reason. I like, I felt kind ofstupid doing it to be honest with you. I mean, I
mean, I mean, I guess it depends on like how, whatsensation like, yeah. I mean, human bro, human zoo

(48:43):
goofy stuff anyway. Right. So it's like somepeople like, I guess it's not what you do is how you
do it. Right. So it was like at the end of the day. Butit ain't no wrong with that either. Like I'd be
trying to tell people like, bro, I'll be tellingpeople all the time, do what makes, like if it makes
you happy and it's not destructive, then like who,bro, that's like, like my project, like a big part

(49:03):
of my project, bro, like the theme of, the theme ofmy project that I just dropped is a, why you call it a
project? Why you call it a product? Isn't it album,mixtape? I mean, cause it's 14, like, so album,
mixtape, EPs, like in, in like, in the musicindustry for people who are concerned with that,
like they have different meanings, right? Like analbum, if you, if you approach a label and you have,

(49:26):
and you have a, and you have a project out that youcall an album, excuse me, however, well, that
album did is what they're going to base yourcontract off of, right? So if you have something
that you just call like EPs or, or mixtapes, right?They don't have anything to actually base like
what your fans or what your reach is, right? So likeyou have more negotiating power and, and, and, and

(49:47):
you can, you, they'll, they'll like look at you aslike people relative into your area. What are
people relative to? So calling something an albumofficially, isn't something that I would like
completely recommend people do until they'relike in the big leagues. Up until that point, like I
say, I say project cause project sounds better tome than album or mixtapes, but depending on who I'm

(50:09):
speaking to, I'll say album or something likethat. So that's why I say it, right? But also
because like it's different, right? Like, youknow, you listen to, you listen to music from other
people, most people, you obviously like jakes orwhatever, right? But when it's somebody who like
you look at is on the come up, you're not expectinglike, so I say this, I say this, not being cocky. I

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say this because it's true, right? Like thisproject legitimately is like a Grammy level
project, like legitimate, right? And the thing isjust like, I know that and the people who helped me
create it know that, right? But, uh, and, and thepeople who have actually listened like at first
people were coming to me like, Oh, this is cool. Iguess. But then like they come back and they're
like, Hey, yo, this right here or a, yo, and that'slike, that's once they've gotten past the fact

(50:57):
that like they know me or they've interacted withme or how or like my numbers aren't like, like once
they've gotten past that and like listen to it as ifit wasn't me. They're like, bro, this shit is like,
I've had people legitimately tell me like, Oh, I'mnot a fan of this because I think you're still
looking for this. You just did this to show you. Andthen they come back and they're like, Oh, bro, this
is really good. And it's like, yeah, bro, like Icould have been making. I could have been like

(51:21):
putting music out, but it's like, I didn't reallyhave nothing to talk about. So, so now like, I got, I
had, I had stuff to, like there was an actualreason. Like, and one thing that I noticed to bro
with the project, like one thing that happens to meoff to me often and like that has happened with the
project. But I think this changes as people likereally know me is a, it's very easy for my words to be

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people like to take words and twist them. And it'svery easy for the things that I say to be taken and
twisted because like what I say is what I mean.Right. Like if I didn't say it, then I'm not
implying it. Right. What I say is what I mean. And Ihad somebody who the first song on my project,
right, shut in. I have a line and it starts offniggas bringing choppers out. Everybody

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catching bodies now from the police to the robbersnow. Niggas fucking so they thought he's now hold
up no face, no case. So my niggas do the dash, right?People looked at me like, Oh, you're pushing
violence or you're just like, you're talkingabout a, and I'm like, nah, bro, like if you listen,
like if you hear what I said, instead of, instead oflike, hearing what you wanted to hear, you would

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have like niggas bringing choppers out. Right. Sothey created guns, right? Everybody catching
bodies now. Everybody's killed since theycreated guns. Everybody's killing people,
right? From the police to the robbers, right? Fromthe people who they told us to look at as like the
good guys in society versus the ones they told us tolook at as the bad guys in society, right? And I say,
no facing. Okay. So my niggas do the dash, right?And the reason I say that is like people. Why do you

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run from the cops? Like if they don't see you,right? Like if they don't see your face, then it
ain't no court case, right? So it's like, that'swhy people run. But like, you know, people hear
what they want to hear. But uh, yeah, bro, this shitis, this shit is amazing. Like this, this shit is,
this shit is like people be calling me cockysometimes, right? And it's like, I don't see how
you can like, I don't see how you can call me a nigga.I like, I tell you, I think it's like, it's not no

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secret. It's just like God, like I'm not beingcocky. I'm being like, it's real as hell, right?
Like, uh, like we got a lot of talented people in,in, in, in, you know, Kansas City, where I'm from,
and it's like, they're very talented, right? But,uh, and bro, if you could clip this nigga, like, but
it's like, I mean, this when I say this, it's a lot oftalented people in this area. But like niggas are

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not fucking with me. And like, here's the thing islike, I didn't, I just, this is my, like, this is my,
this is my debut. Like May the first is the firsttime that like you ever got anything like
legitimately from me, like other people havebeen, and it's like, so I know some people feel the
type of way that I'm speaking like this, but it'slike, bro, like I'm a call of spade a spade. Like I'm
better than you. Like my subject matter, right?Like my KD like you not tear it. Like, and I'll be

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telling, and it's all love too. Like I'd be fuckingwith, but like, bro, like I'm just nice as fuck. And
like, but I fuck with, I fuck with people. And I saythat, like everybody who knows me knows me too.
That like, I'll tell them straight up like Ronbetter. And then like the people who know me would
be like, but, uh, a lot of it's in fun too. But yeah,bro, like this shit is, this shit is Grammy level. I

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haven't made a track called Grammys. Like Ihaven't made that. That's my favorite song. I was,
I was listening to your shit. Yeah, I listened toabout like three, four songs. Uh, I had some time.
Grant, Grammy was my favorite. So what do you thinkmakes like a, like a good rap song? Like what, like
if you had to break it down into elements of like agood song, I think is it like how your voice sounds?

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Is it the delivery? Is it the metaphors? Is it the B?Is it? I don't really think there's a blueprint.
There used to be for sure, right? Like you used tohave to be able to wrap in pocket and have like nice
punches and nice delivery, but like we're gettingto the point to where like, there's so many
different styles of music out and there's so much,there's so many different sounds where it was

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like, if it doesn't sound, it's got to be able tolike, it's got to be able to touch like the masses,
right? Like it's got to be able to, I think a good, agood song is something that can captivate people.
If it's not captivating, right? Or if it's not, ifit's not, but then again, like that doesn't mean
that, like if someone's making music in theirbedroom or some shit like that, it's like, if it

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captivates you, then it got, then it got, then itgot the job done. I think it's just one of those
things that like some things are difficult toexplain, but like, you know, like you just kind of
have that feeling like, ah, yeah, this is, this iscold or this is different type. Well, what makes
like a like a Kendrick Lamar song good? Becausewhenever I listen to him, I'm like, man, I just like
to hear about this dude's fucking life. Like thissome crazy shit. Same thing with with Tupac a

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little bit. But what makes a Kendrick song good?Man, so Kendrick, bro, Kendrick is crazy because
like Kendrick is is a risk. Kendrick takes a lot ofrisks in his music. And I say that like he'll come
out like and he'll he'll he'll he'll the flows,right? He brings new flows. His subject matter is

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like things that people can relate to. And thenlike sounds he plays with production, like in a
what is it? N85 or whatever you out of pocket, like,like, like he uses like breaths to like, so he's
like, bitch. Like he just he tries, he tries newthings, but he's a cool ass nigga too, right? Like
because he's cool and people respect like, bro,the subtleties and like in the way he speaks and in

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the different personalities and the differentperspectives and points of views and how he's
like, I don't get you how it is. Fatal ones, you'relike he he stretches his voice and it's like he
takes risks. And that's what art is, right? Youknow, like they say art is about taking risks. And I
feel like if you're not taking risks, then maybeit's. Yeah, that's what like, yeah, Kendrick's

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just he's. I'm so glad you said that shit about therisk because another dude I want to talk about was
Eminem, right? And in my opinion, Eminem, like thepast eight years is ass. He's ass cheeks. He's he's
trashed to be honest with you. But like his firstlike two albums was his first two or three was like
like some of the best rap albums I've ever heard inmy life. It was fucking crazy. But it's like how. So

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how do you lose that? How do you do you lose theability to produce incredible music? It sounds
like he just don't take risks no more. Right? Heused to he used to rap about killing his baby mama,
about strangling his own mother, about, you know,fucking his, you know, his kids, boyfriends, you
know, so crazy as shit. I think as what are you goingto say? No, I was going to say you think he's risk

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averse now or I was going to. So I think I think aspeople looking on the outside in to like other
people's lives, regardless of their families,and if we're looking from the outside, we kind of
hold people to who we want them to be. And that kindof like stops us from growing like as these as

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people grow, as people change, there are theirreflection, their sound is going to change too.
And I think because we get so used to like hearinglike we like this, right? Like for instance,
chance to rap or dropped acid rap. And then he putout like coloring book and everything. And
everyone's like he fell off. And it's like, nah, hejust he underwent a different type of growth. And
it's like because you're not him, you didn't growwith him. And you fell in love with this version of

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him. And he's no longer that version of himself.But it's like because we're looking upon as like we
like what you create, right? We want this. We wantthis from you. Like people were saying to chance
like someone should drug him again so we could getlike this song. And so I don't think it's that like
the risk of verse. I think it's as people grow, whatthey what they don't want to speak about the same

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things anymore, what they talk about. Or they justfeel like maybe that chapter in their lives is
closed. Because like I like I've always been like,you know, so so with Eminem. I think he makes
really, really good music. Like I think the lastproject that I heard from him was music to be
murdered by. And I never like could sit through afull album. But like, I don't know why. That's just

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maybe it's not relatable or whatever. But I thinkhe's just at a point in his life to where he's like,
I'm Eminem. Like I'll I could put out I could put outmyself like fucking I'm going to hump back well and
somebody will listen to it because that's Eminem.Right. So yeah. I never really understood why
people be like he's the best rapper ever I don'tthink that's just true at all I think maybe you

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could put his album up there with like the best everbut I Don't know but man. I think if I had to give you
like a little title, right? You know how it's like asuperman He's indestructible Wonder Woman can do
anything Yours would be the master of perspectiveYou are so fucking good with that shit how? Because

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you're right for the past eight years. I just likeman Eminem's trash. He's ass everything He's done
for the past eight years is he I don't think he'she's made a verse where I'll be like yeah I want to
listen to that again But I honestly I think yourperspective has changed my mind, you know just in
him has changed as a person and Like we all do and sohis music changes man. You fucking good at that

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shit, dude You should be a philosopher Man well, Imean who would be the ultimate philosopher other
than myself so Yo, why hey why why why do you refer toyourself as God? Well because I get ready for this
like I actually I actually am like God, right? ButI'm gonna give you like a little story because like

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Life Life works obviously like everyone Everyonethinks that the experience that they have in life
is the experience that everybody has and it's likethat's cuz out of sight out of mind Right so like we
got to understand that the world doesn't work thesame for everybody like for instance like an
Extreme example just to kind of help peoplevisualize it It's like if you are a black person in
the six in the 1800s versus white person You knowthe world doesn't work for you the same way, right?

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Like they're certain the world is gonna respond toyou in a different way, right same thing like Drake
Eminem like people's people spend so much time andthis is leading up to the answer people spend so
much time like Complaining or looking at howcelebrities live, but that's because they're
they're looking at it from their perspective Andthey don't understand that like bro like you miss

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Kathy who works for this corporation who makes 4050 70 80 thousand dollars a year, right? Like
you're like you don't live in the same type of worldthat like the world is works different for Drake
right and I the reason that I say that like gettingon to myself, right? It's because the world has a
I'm God right simple as that um, but uh It took me awhile to like get to the point to where like I

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accepted that for myself and like the reason that Isay that is because like bro imagine walking
around like Telling people a yo, I'm God like in thebeginning. You know how that would make people
look at you like bro What do you want or this nigga'scareer like your retire your undra like you feel me
and it's like it's like so But I like from a from themoment like as far as back as I can remember bro like

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I always had this like little type of feeling aslike Trying to understand it right because I
remember like being four years old like in my mindlike any time niggas talked about Jesus or
whatever Like there was a little and I'm like Idon't believe I don't believe none of that right,
but it's like It got to the point to where it justbecame like too difficult to fight against Like so

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the moment that I quit fighting the moment that Istopped fighting and it was like alright, bro Like
let me just see what happens like then I recognizedlike oh I am God and you know It's crazy too, bro like
the biggest thing that like a couple of the biggestthings that helped me accept is right around COVID
time I was telling people this story as it washappening and Because like for me if you're

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telling the truth Like when you're telling whenyou're telling something that you know to be true,
right? You're not really too worried about ifanyone believes you or not because you know like so
But looking back somebody told me said bro Peopleprobably I don't know if he said people probably
thought you were a compulsive or like some crazyliar because like bro dead ass Around COVID time we

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got this Mormon temple like everybody from thecity know where that big-ass Mormon temple is up on
soul Creek, right? And I went and I sat down like Isat down there because this is a you know COVID time
everybody's becoming Introspective we finallygot time for ourselves We don't have to exist like
the world that they created got fucking shut weshut the fucking world I forgot all about you bro
like so we we we we shut down the world that theyfucking created So it gave us time to realize and

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look like hold up bro like all of this shit is fakeall of this shit is bullshit So niggas started
getting introspective right so I'm I go to this I goand I'm sitting down because you know churches
They're supposed to be spiritual or whatever thisold couple runs into me. They exchange numbers
They invite me into the church, right? They'retheir church They got these elders who was like
supposed to be educating me on someone so One of thedudes one he said like do you feel like you were

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Jesus Christ to do you like think you were God? And Iwas like I don't know that's why I just I don't know
bro, but then like so what was crazy what was crazyis a is a So a couple like a little bit later after
being with them like my phone started buzzing a lotand people started inviting me to like dinners To
their houses and stuff and whatnot and I was likebro This is kind of like all these people I'm like
this is kind of weird like death It doesn't I waslike that doesn't feel right to me and then like

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when I found out what was going on I got invited to arandom ass BAP I got invited to some rent because
you know baptisms are supposed to be a big deal I gotinvited to some random ass baptism. I pull up to
that bitch in Birkenstocks. I'm a fucking Griswetgreen sweatshirt and some joggers on and everyone
else is like in full Mormon attire and shit likethat Bro, and I'm I'm like they they like escort me

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into the room And I'm sitting down in the chairswith them looking around and shit And then like the
person getting baptized comes out of the tank andthen then niggas like ask me like I'm in the front
row They tell me to come up and like on look and I'mlike I'm like, bro What the fuck am I even doing here
right like so then like Come to find out bro. Theywas telling people like they genuine believe that

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I was like Jesus Christ, bro Like they were that'swhat they that's what they were telling like
members of their of their like inner sir, bro likeand when I found that out I was like Cuz for a little
bit I was like, okay, like that's not surprising tome because it's like cuz I'm me right So it's like
but they're like but then as I started thinkingmore deeply about it I'm like, but that don't feel

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right to me cuz I'm like y'all y'all are saying thatbut like I'm like if I was Jesus and some niggas in
some random and some niggas killed me would Ireally come back to save some niggas and then like
I'm like Pieces of this story not making sense,right? But like that kind of fucked with me for a
little bit too because it's like imagine goingthrough some shit like that Bro, like so that's it
fucked with my mental for a little bit And I reallylike so I kind of like some things happen to where

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like I really had to like sit down and like look atMyself and figure out like bro. Who like who am I
right? And it's like, why do I feel? Why do I feellike it's like when people told me I was Jesus like
it's not that wasn't a new feeling to me Like Ialways felt like I was That nigga like Jesus Clips
that I could understand because like that niggaswas always talking about some year Jesus is God

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That nigga Jesus wanted to be that nigga Jesusain't me simple that nigga Jesus not lit is me,
right? But uh Once I had the chance to sit down andactually like gain perspective and like Look and
like get rid of all the noise and bullshit It got itgot it got it just became apparent to like ah The way
that these people the way that you guys define melike and you guys's books in In you guys's body and

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you guys's textbooks like that shit is notreality, right? So like that's a big part too
because like the way that people the way thatpeople Talk talk about me and like you guys's
textbooks and the way you guys talk about me andstuff like that like people would be like If you're
God's snap your fingers and make talk is appear andI'm like bro like y'all still believe shit like

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that like you guys and it's like Yeah, bro. So therewas a little there was a little there was a phase for
like I thought I was like losing touch with realityand then I realized that I wasn't losing touch with
reality It's like I love you so much. I'm growingout of I'm growing out of reality Or I'm growing out
of humanity and growing into reality, right?Because you figure out that like if Everybody if

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everybody is taught To be the same right Receivesthe same programming or societal conditioning
and then all of a sudden you become self-aware oryou wake up or you become aware of yourself You're
gonna feel out of place because no one else becauseno one else is doing that and until you get to the
point To where you're far enough to where youfinally realize that like nah, bro Like I'm not

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crazy at all It's just that like all of these niggasare running on like a program or or a script if you
will that's been given to them and Then likeobviously like life made it pretty easy for me to
accept because like One of the things that I feareda lot was like Bro people are gonna be like people
are gonna be questioning my mental integrity andlike is this do crazy or not? luckily Some chips

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fell some dominoes fell and I found myself like in aposition to where People Legitimately wanted to
like they tested my mental right so the crazy partabout this too is bro Who did that? Who who tested
you like that some doctors like legit likelegitimate screening bro Like real like real last
like what was crap bro? I needed that I needed thisis why I needed that first off I walk in the building

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and I like I was already shitting on all of theseniggas cuz like they're like you got to change your
clothes I'm like why like if I'm only beer for alittle bit why I got a chin and I like it's not a big
deal I got and then like bro a dude walked up to me andhe's like He's like are you in any pain and I was like
nah, not really He said do you want some pills and Iwas like you talking about like opioids and he was
like yeah And I so I'm like bro I was like we're in themiddle of an opioid crisis and you're just and I'm

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like bro You're just walking around like offeringpeople like Pain killers opiates like it's like
it's Halloween candy. I'm like you guysunderstand But right and then like so after I
squashed all of that we get to the they give me thelike the lab test right and So they start asking me
these quits they start asking me all thesequestions And I'm like just brazen through them

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shits like do you do you see shadows? And I'm like doyou see shadows like should do you see things that
other people don't see and I'm like I'm like, how doI know what you like? What do you mean? Do I see
things other people don't see? How do I I don't knowwhat you see. Do I do you see things that I don't see
all right? And I'm like and then like Now like as faras I do see things that other people don't see like

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but like as far as like perspectives go like I seewhy things worked the way but like Demons and
shadows and monsters and shit like that not brolike but like as far as like a different
perspective That's like seeing in a differentlight. So like but at the time I didn't have I didn't
have this understanding and then like they get toask me another question And she's like, okay, we
don't think you're crazy. Da-da-da and then I saidone more thing I Was like something about like how I

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wanted to be treated by people and then she said,you know what never mind We are gonna like admit you
for further testing. I was like why and she said youthink people I said you think people should treat
you a certain way and I was like wait a minute I'mlike so it's okay for all of you guys to have an
expectation of how you want me to treat you and howyou want to be Treated, but I'm not allowed to have
that same expectation bro. I shut that bitch upright in her tracks She's like like cuz when I said

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that she was like she didn't know what the fuck to dobro And I'm like she's like no, okay. Yeah, you're
right like We're get you like you don't need to behere Bro, but I needed that shit because it's like
that was the like as soon as like you guys's whitecoats and your doctors couldn't Tell me that I was
crazy. I'm like, oh bro. It's a I'm like It's afucking rap like like now that nobody can use the

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like oh You're mentally insane here cuz likepeople have like in the pet like after that event
happened People still try to use that for a littlebit. It's like y'all can't call me crazy no more
because y'all fucking doctors Y'all fuckingdoctors just told you nah this nigga's like Like
I'm just I'm God bro like like and it's not crazy.It's not credit like it's not crazy like it's the

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truth it is It's the truth. And like, it got to thepoint where like, it just got easier for me to
accept than to not accept. And now like, and like,obviously I recognize it. I recognize it. And you
know, I introduce myself, I go to the churches, I bespreading truth and I be trying to tell people

(01:11:46):
what's up. And I be trying to, like, and it helps metoo, right? It works things out. Like I can walk
into a church and tell people like, and then if Iever got here with like a, who do you think you are?
But I usually introduce myself like, Ayo, I'm God,right? And like, you know, some people have an
issue like calling me that. And it's like, I don'tcare how y'all feel about it. It's like, I didn't

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have a choice on who I was anymore than you have achoice on who you are, right? Like you didn't get to
choose who you were, right? Like if you're you,because you are you, right? I'm me, because it just
happens that I'm God, right? Like it's, that'sjust the way that it is. It's like, why you? It's
like, I don't know, nigga, like why are you you?That's just how it is, right? And it's like, but
with that, it's like, with that, with that is justlike the perspective and understanding that I

(01:12:33):
have on life. And like, it's got like, peoplegotta, people gotta slow down enough to actually
like, hear and listen to the things that I'msaying, because I look at how, I look at how like you
guys are living. And I look at the things that youguys do and how you guys look at certain people. And
I'm like, they look at like, a lot of you guys makedecisions thinking that like, you're living, you

(01:12:57):
guys make decisions thinking that it's for yourbest choice. So you guys, bro, you guys, like
there's a lot of, there's a lot of learning thatlike these guys need, bro. Like, so you, you think
kind of the, like the, the unique, I guess,qualification or what is really special about you
that makes you God is that you are able to perceiveand to view and to dissect the world in a way that

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nobody else can. Yeah, that's the, that's the, Isthat accurate? I don't know. Yeah, no, that's
pretty, that's pretty accurate. I will say thistoo, though, like, the way that I can do it is way
better than, but like Elon Musk does it all thetime, bro, like, I'm like months ahead of you guys
too. Sometimes like, for instance, like, I'llnotice something and I'll speak, I'll speak about

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it. And like, people used to like write it off. Andthen like, I would say something and then it would
come to, but like Elon Musk does it. Like, if youlisten to Elon Musk speak, Elon Musk says, or like
even bro, Donald Trump, bro, I fuck with thisnigga, Donald Trump so much because, bro, I just
saw this new cast with him the other day. Like hespeaks, we speak in a very similar fashion, right?

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Like people try to box you into yes or no. This ladyasked him about, he said, if he said, if he was
president, the war in Ukraine would be over within24 hours. I've been telling people, I was like,
bro, if y'all niggas treated me like who I, like Icould get that shit over in 30 minutes or like, not
even joking. And then the lady says, what side doyou want to win? The Ukraine or Russia? And he said,
I'm not picking sides. He said, it's not aboutpicking sides, people are dying. Right? And she

(01:14:30):
says, and then she like, tries to press thequestion again. She's like, but yeah, who are you
rooting for? And it's like, bro, that's how likefucked up people's brains are to where it's like,
they want you, they want you to like put in a box.She's like, bro, I don't give a fuck about no sides.
Like what needs to be done is this doesn't need to behappening, right? But like there's so people are
so used to trying to like, bro, other people see theworld for what it is to, but it's like putting it in a

(01:14:56):
way to where everybody can understand it. That'sthe challenge, right? Like Elon Musk understand,
like if I had a conversation with Elon Musk, like wespeak about the same shit. If I had a conversation
with Trump, we speak, but it's like being able toput it so simply and plainly in a way that the
majority can understand it. That's thechallenge. And it's like, I'm just, I'm just an
artist when it comes to that, bro. And it's like, Ilove you so much, bro. It's like, I fucking like, I

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fucking like, I love myself. And it's like, I loveyou. And it's like, I love you so fucking much that
it's like, why would I ever lie to you? Why would Iever want anything but like less than the best for
you? Or it's like, why would I ever likeintentionally try to hurt somebody like, let's
like, no, bro. Like I love you too much for that typeof shit. And then it's like, for like, so one thing

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Elon has been speaking about recently, and I'vebeen touching on it for a while is like, the lies,
right? Like being indoctrinated into lies. And Itell people all the time, like, bro, I'll never lie
to you. What's the like, I don't lie. I hate lying,right? No matter how small and white the lie is,
because the thing about little white lies is, Ionce had a man named Sean Bailey tell me this

(01:16:09):
saying, little done often equals much, right? Soit's like, one little white lie might not be the,
but it's like, you get enough little white lies.You get so used to that feeling of what the lie feels
like that when somebody tells you the truth, itfeels uncomfortable or it doesn't seem real,
right? And I remember like telling people like,bro, I'm not telling these little niggas that

(01:16:29):
Santa Claus exists. I'm like, I'm not about to lieto these niggas, bro. And it's like, people got
upset with me for that. And it's like, bro, like, Iwas like, if you guys want to justify why it's okay
to be a liar and a bad person, then just say that, butdon't try to make me feel wrong. And they're like,
but it takes away the joy. And it's like, bro, if Igot to rely on a lie to like get these niggas to feel

(01:16:50):
something, then it's like, then I just got toimprove on myself, right? And then it's like,
plus, like, y'all be using this shit to controlpeople. And they're like, no one's trying to, and
I'm like, nah, bro, like as a parent, I'm like, hey,little Billy, put that fucking cup down. And he's
like, no, dammit, Billy, if you don't put that cupdown, Santa's putting you on the fucking naughty
list. I don't want to be on the naughty list, bro. Sothen all of a sudden, anytime the parent doesn't

(01:17:13):
want you to do something, all of a sudden, hey, ifyou watch that TV show, you're on the fucking
naughty list. So now they're in his bro religion isthe religion is to adults with Santa Claus is the
kids, right? It's like, hey, fucking, give me,give me like a fucking Jedidaya. Or what would it's

(01:17:34):
like, Tom, that's a fucking Tom. You got to pickthat, like, cause you know, black people got white
names. Tom, you better pick that fucking Tom'slike, Tom's like, nah, fuck that. But like, I
educated them on heaven and hell. It's like,dammit, Tom, God said, if you're not a good fucking
slave, then you're going to fucking hell, right?And then they see Tom like, now Tom doesn't want to

(01:17:54):
go to hell cause he's so nice. And then peoplerealize like, oh, all I got to do is say that God said
you're gonna, if you don't do this, like, bro, ifyou don't pay your taxes, you're gonna go, the fuck
I care about if you pay your taxes for a bro, I don'tgive a fuck. But it's like, they realize that they
realize that they can use this to gain theadvantage and gain power over people, right? And
it's like all the dumb ass, like I say in Soul Cry,bro, like Soul Cry, like the second from last track

(01:18:19):
on my project, ain't fucking with no niggaspreaching, ain't fucking with teachers, like
ain't fucking with no politicians, fuck all theirreligions, right? Because it's like, they use
this shit to like, control people like Pokemon,bro, like, a group of them niggas got together and
decided they didn't like Pokemon. So now all of asudden Pokemon is demonic. You remember that shit
when they were saying the Pokemons were like, bro,that's what they do. They recognize that like, oh,

(01:18:40):
these fucking idiots, like they believeanything, these fucking idiots believe niggas
were walking on water. These fucking idiotsbelieve that niggas, and I know this might make
people, but it's the truth, right? Like theseniggas believe that people have random ass
respawn tokens. And it's like, bro, that shit isgoofy to me. Like, so, bro, like this shit is goofy.
And it's like, you know, religion is also like,they literally said in the Bible that like, the

(01:19:06):
angels that they believe are angels, it literallylike, bro, they were looking at the stars. Those
niggas didn't have a telescope. So like, what elseis their logical conclusion gonna be? Like,
nigga, we're in the stone ages, I look up and I see abunch of dots. Today we got telescopes. Those
aren't no fucking angels. Those are fucking, it'shelium and hydrogen. Like, bro. Yeah, a lot of

(01:19:29):
people kind of suspect that they were doingmushrooms back then, and they were
hallucinating. And that's kind of some shit thatthey were seeing. And I've never done mushrooms at
LSD, but they say whenever you do hallucinate onthat shit, it's like, it's the most real thing
you've ever experienced. And you're like, it'smore real than like fucking real life. They like,

(01:19:49):
they think after they come down, they're like,whoa, like this shit ain't real, that shit. You
know, that was some real ass shit. But you know,like what you were saying, you could really
deconstruct like a lot of shit based on what you'resaying. Like all of society you could
deconstruct. You could be like, why the fuck am Ieven wearing clothes? Like we the only animal. We

(01:20:12):
the only animal. They're giving me so much heat forthat, bro. I'll be telling people. Keep spitting,
bro, you got to know. Well, it's true. It's like,man, we the only animal that wears clothes and it's
like, we don't need it to protect us from theenvironments. We got houses and shit. I'll be
telling people, like, bro, people give me so much.That's the point that I use all the time. It's like,
bro, like if we weren't born with clothes, it'slike, for instance, like niggas is like indecent

(01:20:37):
exposure. And I'm like, bro, like we wereliterally, that's literally the way we're born.
It ain't nothing. It's only indecent because theniggas in society who got power are telling us that
that shit is indecent. It's not nothing, bro, it'sliterally the way we're like, bro, and then like,
so you talked about mushrooms earlier, right? AndI'm glad you said it. I'm glad you brought it up

(01:20:57):
because remember earlier, we were talking aboutlike how they portrayed things on television. I
want to touch on that. But then you also said like,people say it's the realest thing ever. So I'm
going to touch on both of those, bro, because like,you got to know, right? So it's like, as far as like
the, I tried shrooms around COVID time for thefirst time. And the reason, one of the reasons that

(01:21:17):
I tried them is because like, I'd already triedweed when I had moved to LA. But the person who
introduced me to them is someone I had greatrespect for. He's like college educated. He went
to school for like botany or and like some otherstuff. Like someone I really had respect for. And I
was like, oh, well, if it's coming from you, hellyeah, I'll try this, right? So I did, I did a shit ton

(01:21:38):
of research and I like, you like psilocybin islike, you cannot get addicted to psilocybin like
because that's the active ingredient in shroomsbecause like the more, the more you take the more,
like, so if you take an eighth of shrooms to get acertain trip, the next time you have to up the
dosage to have that same experience to where like,if you like, so you have to have a shrooms cool down.

(01:22:00):
Otherwise, like you won't trip because it's likethe way your brain processes the chemical, right?
So I did a shit ton of research and then I figured outlike Joe Rogan and Mike Tyson and all these like, so
many people micro dose on shrooms because it helpsthem focus. So I did an eighth for my first time and I
remember like sitting outside comfortable andlike right before I got into the trip, I was like,
oh, so the reason that people, the reason thatpeople have bad experiences is because like,

(01:22:26):
everything that like you typically registersubconsciously, you now become conscious of. So
it's like, if their mind's not ready for that,they'll take one thing and run with it and like
they'll get paranoid. So like I hit the, I'm on theshrooms and I'm walking around like everything
looks normal to me, but I feel different. Like Ididn't care as much about what other people were
saying. Right? And like, I'm like, I'm bouncingaround and I start running to see like, do I have

(01:22:48):
control on my body and stuff like that? Likeexperimenting to test like am I still, then my
homeboy hits me up a little bit later. He's like,hey bro, we're hoping come to the gym. I'm like,
bro, I'm on shrooms. And I was like, you know what,fuck it, let me try. So I go to the gym and I get there
and like we're putting up shots and like niggas arelike, they're like, bro, what's going on? And I'm
like, bro, I'm like, bro, I said, believe it. I'mchipping off the shrooms right now. They're like,

(01:23:10):
bro, what? And I'm like, bro, I feel like, like,they're like, nigga, we never seen you hope like
this. And then like, he said, hey bro, see, like, Iwas a little chunkier at the time. I was like, hey,
see, can you go off and get, get like a, bro, like,Like my dunking, everything was like, and I'm
like, bro, what the fuck? So I realized like I hadmore control over my body. I was more in tune with
myself and I also didn't, I was more aware of myenvironment and what was going on around me as well

(01:23:34):
as like, uh, I didn't care so much about what peoplelike myself, my self-consciousness that I had at
the time was gone. I didn't care what anyone had tolike. And so you say people say it's like the
realest thing ever. I, this is, this is one thingthat I'll say and I'll, I'll let you take it from
there is a, so our governments, right? Bro, we'vegot two types of drugs, right? We've got the drugs

(01:23:55):
that the government tells us are is wrong versusthe drugs that the government tells us, um, is
right. And if you pay attention to the drugs thatthey tell us are right, those drugs make you more
compliant. For instance, like ADHD drugs, likeyou give, so humans are animals, right? And it's
like, so think of like a like animal cubs, like lioncubs, bear cubs. If you want those little bear cubs

(01:24:21):
or those young animals to sit still in oneenvironment for six to eight hours, that is going
to be damn near fucking impossible becausenewborn life is nothing more than ball of fucking
energy. So there's no different like humans are nodifferent because humans are still animals just
because like humans look at themselves as more.It's like, nah, bro, like human cubs behave the

(01:24:42):
same way as any other animal cub. Right. So it'slike, what do we do? We, we, we give them a pill that
shuts off half of their fucking brain and it makesthem more complicit. It makes them more
compliant. They deem those as good. Right. Now youtake drugs like shrooms and weed, it makes you less
compliant with what society wants you to bebecause it deconstructs, it deconstructs the

(01:25:05):
portrait that has been painted for you by societyand it shows you what's real versus what it helps
you get more in tune with nature, if you will,right? And it's like, when that happens, like you,
you're looked upon as like maybe you're lazy oryou're, and it's like, no, like you're living life
for what it is, not for what it's not for the lifethat's been constructed for you by others. Right.

(01:25:26):
And it's like, if I'm in power, I will quicklynotice the things that cause me to lose power.
Right. So if, if, if when someone takes thesesubstances, they no longer listen to me, they're
no longer as complicit. That is a threat to thepower that I want to maintain. So I'm going to use
the power that I have and I'm going to makeeverybody view these substances as bad and we are

(01:25:50):
going to fight a war against those substancesbecause I don't want people knowing the truth
because I don't want to lose power. Right. And Ialso will take my power and I will say, Hey, yo, but
you should take these drugs right here. Right. Butthose drugs make you more complicit to what I want,
thus keeping me in power longer. And that's, andthat's how things go, bro. Like that's, that's why

(01:26:11):
like the war on drugs, it's just for people. Theyrealize that like people smoke weed and take
strums and they don't give a fuck about what I say.But when they take that pill, they listen to what I
say. So like, we're just going to, we're just, I gotthe media, right? I got public relations. Let's
just tell them that like AO, like if you'd like, youguys hate black people right now in the country, a
black people love this shit right now. That's whythey behave the way that's why black people suck.

(01:26:34):
So all of a sudden they're like, well, I don't wantto be a black person. So I'm not going to take smoke
weed. But now it's down to the point to where peoplehave realized and it's like, but having somebody
who's articulate enough and put together enoughto explain what's actually going on is something
that you guys haven't had yet. And that's why it'slike, like, bro, this shit is crazy to me, man.
Like, bro, that's your role, man. It seems likethis is your, this is your calling, bro. You, I

(01:26:56):
think, I think you're a really good rapper. Uh, butthis may be like your shit. I mean, this shit, I
don't know how easy it is for you to rap. But thisshit that you talk about is like, like, it's the
most fluid shit. It's like you've been, you cameout the womb doing this shit, man. This shit may be
your calling for real. I mean, bro, like, so it'swho I am. Like, I didn't, I didn't have a choice.

(01:27:21):
Like, yeah, like God is, if you want to say God is mycalling, right? Like, I tell people all the time
that like, no matter how much we fight against thenature, reality is going to, reality is going to
make it known. So it's like, it got to the pointwhere it's like, I would rather, do I want to, do I
want to, I would rather be at peace with myself andat war with the world than at war with myself and at

(01:27:42):
peace with, and it's like, do I want to, do I want toget my ass beat by reality and society? Or do I want
to, or do I want to do, because like, I'd rather, I'drather have society, I'd rather be on society's
good side, right? Or on reality's good side,because like reality's bigger than society, no
matter what, like, reality trumps everything. SoI'm like, all right, bro, like, I'm gonna just roll

(01:28:03):
with what you're saying. And like, you telling methat like, you're gonna get everybody else to come
along, then like for sure. But like, because it'slike, if I would have sided with society, like, I
would have kept getting my ass beat, like. Were youraised by a single mother? Uh, yeah, I was
actually, why do you ask? Well, because I had thistheory that, so I was raised by like my father and a

(01:28:27):
stepmother, but my, my real mom was kind of not inthe picture. And I have like low ass self esteem.
Like I fucking hate everything I do. Like I just, Ifucking hate everything about me. And I have like
this theory that successful business people andpeople who are like very successful are, it takes
like a certain level of confidence, in my opinion,to reach like these levels of success. And I have

(01:28:53):
this theory that this confidence comes from themother. The mother instills this confidence in
their child and then they go out and they, you know,they, they believe in themselves. And you have
this, you have this weird and penetrableconfidence that I think allows you to think

(01:29:13):
thoughts that nobody else does because peoplethink like, ah, like, man, fuck, I just can't, I
just can't run around being naked. Like that'sjust not right. You know, I, I can't even go there.
Like a lot of people can't even fucking go therementally. But you have this impenetrable
confidence. And I guess it comes from somewhere.I'm guessing your mom did a fantastic job. And, uh,

(01:29:34):
I have to honestly like, man, one thing that I don'tlike about society is society tries to like get you
to like, I mean, it, it depends. It's dependent on,but like society will attempt to like credit other
nobler. Like I had to get here by myself. Like,because like one of the things about like being me
is it's like, I got to like, who do I go to for, I can'tgo to like, for the things that like, the things

(01:29:56):
that my brain focuses on, I can't Google theanswer. I can't go to like somebody like, so I had to
like, because I'm me, right? It's like, so I had tofigure out different ways to interact with life
and different ways to like, for instance, bro,like the whole thing is alive, right? Like
existence, like, you know, people say, oh, I'mseeing this, like, no, the whole thing is alive.

(01:30:17):
Like you can't create something living fromsomething that's not living, right? It's just
that like everyone's been given a certainperspective on what life is. So you guys view it
through a lens, but nah, bro, it's like, Idefinitely have to get here by myself. Like
everybody, everybody, everybody was beating upand trying to beat up, beat it, beat up on me.
Because everything about me is goes againsteverything that everybody's been taught, which

(01:30:42):
is what it like this world that you guys have,that's been crafted for y'all, bro. Even if I
wanted to like exist peacefully with it, like justme being who I am, bro, like, dawg, you have no idea,
bro. Like shit got so wacky for a little bit. Like,yeah, bro. What you mean? What got wacky? Uh, I

(01:31:05):
would, I would like walk into buildings and like,no joke. As soon as I walked in, like within like
five minutes, people were calling, just by mewalking in, cops were being called, like, just by
me walking in the building. I walked into arestaurant, dude gets in my face. I'm like, bro,
I'm looking for a seat. I turn, he's in my face, bro.I'm like, and then he calls the cops and I told
someone about it and they're like, well, did you doany, and I'm like, bro, like, what do you mean? Like

(01:31:28):
did I like, like one, like, I got like, I walked intoa church and like, bro, people just like, like
legitimately not saying anything, not causing noproblems, but like because my, like, so I say it and
shut in, like, uh, I don't care what you've beentold. Don't you know that shit? Get off. I've been
fighting for it. You can't tell because, oh,you've been blinded by them niggas who preach and
on Sunday service and then politicians damage.You see that I make them nervous. My presence too

(01:31:52):
abrasive. I'm feeling the spot with truth. Likejust my presence alone, like my presence alone is
so powerful that like it just people, like forinstance, you, when you're in power, you
immediately notice what makes you lose power. Andbecause I'm me, right, as soon as I walk into the
building, people automatically know, like thepeople, people in power automatically know is

(01:32:15):
this person is causing a disruption, right? Like,but what I was doing is I was disrupting the power
that they had called because I'm me, bro. Like, I'mlike, for instance, like if Drake walks into a
building, like, no one gives a fuck about what thatmanager is going to say, they're looking at Drake.
And that's like, but like, because I'm me,regardless of people know who I am or not, like my

(01:32:35):
presence is so strong to where it's likeeverything changes, like automatically. And
it's like, I used to have like owners would come outand like have to remind the employee, well, I was
talking to the owner and he's like, well, I'm theemployee, he said he reminded his employees,
well, I'm the owner. I'm like, why would you even,and I was like, Oh yeah, because I'm God, like,
nigga, like, what is ownership? Y'all just bemaking stuff. Y'all just be making stuff up and

(01:32:58):
telling people that it's real. Yo, that's somecrazy shit. I just got two, two last questions for
you. And then I'm a go watch Jimmy Butler beat theCeltics. If y'all listening, this is game five of
the Celtics versus he and my boy Butler, gotta showhim what's up. But my first question, would you be

(01:33:19):
willing to do another podcast with me and my homie,who, yo, you remind me so much of him, yo, so much.
And we'll smoke a blunt and do a podcast. Is thatsound cool? Yeah, bro, that's legit. Last last
question. And thank you so much, man, because thisshit, like I would buy tickets to that fucking
podcast. But last question is, what would be youradvice to other people, specifically young

(01:33:43):
folks? I would say, don't stop. I say, listen moreto me and listen less to the people, listen more to
what I say and listen less to the people who aretelling you what I say. Hell yeah, man. That's it,
dude. And my request to you or my advice to you wouldbe, don't stop talking. You need to be, you know,

(01:34:05):
doing what you gotta do, you know, getting onpodcasts, spreading your message or whatever.
Because I think, yo, people, it's kind of like whatyou said. It's like some people are like educated,
some people are smart. I think people need thatskill, whatever skill you call it, to where you are
able to dissect everything from 10,000 feet. And Idon't think I've ever seen anybody be able to do it

(01:34:32):
quite like you can. So that would be- Well, I mean,for obvious reasons. Obviously, it's like, bro,
come on now. You kidding me? Like obviously, comeon now. Come on. Yeah, so don't stop talking. And
then, you know, go eat some ass and we'll talk aboutit, man. Ass eating, ass eating on the way. Cool. 1062 01:34:54,280 --> And of course, all your links to all your shit will be in the show notes. Y'all know where to find them.

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