#28 Ganesh Datta | Food's impact on life, money and greed, domestication of humans - Bang Two Three Podcast

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If you're a regular person, right?

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I would say this, don't trust in organic food.
If somebody says pay me more
because it's organic, say fuck you.
- Something just struck me, dude.
So before I was just doing video chats
before I got to hang out with you.
And I, like on like a megal monkey app
or whatever it's called.

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And I'm matched with this guy.
And we're talking to whatever
he's like in a dark room and shit.
And we're talking.
And here's what he told me.
And by the way, buddy, hey buddy,
if you're listening to this right now,
just know I love you guy who I met on monkey.
I love you, bro.
I love you.
And you know what?
I hope you do really well.
But he told me, he said, yeah man.

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He said, I'm just sitting around
smoking all day waiting for the world to end, man.
He said, shit's fucked out there.
He said, it's really fucked out.
I'm just sitting around, sitting in my bed,
waiting for the world to end.
What do you think about that?
This was a real person.
I would say he would probably die before that happened.
I mean, I love that guy too, because we

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need pessimists in the world.
But I would say that's a very dumb approach to life, right?
Because I would say, you know, you know,
because I'm from India, right?
So I am like a monkey brain, whatever people
want to call it as, you know, like we believe in
a hereditary and lineage, right?
Like, what do you represent?

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Because, you know, I see you as a person, but who are you actually?
You're not just a person, right?
You have, you are representing a lot of people, sorry,
to say, but, but, yeah, and a lot of people, right?
Who struggled to even survive?
And you come from them and what are they doing?

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You are crying in a corner.
Like, I would say that's a pretty weak mindset, too.
OK, this is a great point, too, because I like the mindset
that you described, which is that, hey, you know, essentially,
I'm standing on the shoulders of giants.
My great, great, great, great grandparents, they fought, they struggled,
they went through famine, everything just for me to be here today.

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Now, what I would say is that in the United States,
this mindset is not like--
It's not everywhere.
Like, it's not super duper popular.
Do you think that, like, why would you think you would not teach your kids
about your lineage?
Like, what's the logic behind that?

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Because there is this systematic approach to destroy family units.
I at least in the United States, and predominantly, you know,
in Western countries, there hasn't always this approach of,
as soon as you're 18, you're out of my house.
All I would say, stupid is that approach.

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Because I know people who are 30 years old, who still are kids,
like, who they are, they never matured, right?
And, you know, maturity is--
I always feel like maturity is not a compulsion, right?
So if you struggled with your kid, yeah, you would be mature--
even at age of, like, 14, 15, do.

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You know, that's very common.
And if you come up with the upper middle class people,
you would struggle to be a matured person, even until you're late 40s.
You know, until you are the only person, you know,
who has to lead the whole family, you're not matured.
So I would feel like, you know, this approach of

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kicking children out at 18 and creating retirement
really just, by the way, which is freaking crazy.
That's just stupid because people are becoming more domesticated
animals.
You know, earlier, I was having--
it almost feels like a deja vu because I was having a similar conversation.

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And I said, you know, how today's people, right?
And the way we treat horses, for example, right?
Just like, do hundreds of years ago, we used to write them to war.
Like, could I imagine, you know, writing your horse in a battle field
which probably like, I don't know, 40, 50 pounds, well, do it.

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That's what the horses did.
You know, what today horses do?
They sit in environmentally controlled rooms, right?
And as soon as weather drops, they are given blankets.
They are fed a very strict diet.
What happened?
Do you think horses really need that?
No, they do not.
To be honest, right?
Because nature, inherently, is not balanced.

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That's the fucked up thing about nature.
It's not balanced, too.
Because if nature was balanced, we would not
have invasive creatures, right?
So what's happened to today's human?
Today's human has been domesticated beyond belief or faith.
Like, I feel like there is a point of written, right?
Because if you went into a city and asked a person,

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where does your foot come from?
They do not know.
Where does your culture root from?
They do not know, though.
They do not know.
And I feel like this whole big machine of Hollywood, right?
The propaganda machine.
It has been churning for the past, you know, whatever, 100 years.
And it has affected me, you, everybody, you know,

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in this universe because--
We talked about that.
You said something earlier that I think I've never heard anyone say.
You said the words, I think the systematic destruction
of the family.
So the systematic means that there's a process to it, right?
It's this step to step.
So first of all, why would anybody or any system want

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to destroy the family?
What would be the objective?
Because the first motive of a person who wants to control people
is to divide them.
Beautiful.
Like, because, you know, we were ruled by a bridge, right,
for like 250 years, too.
And that's the same thing they did.
They're officially-- agenda was to divide and rule.

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That was a policy that they came up with.
And it's the same British people that fucked you also, right?
[LAUGHTER]
So OK, so what you're saying is, let's just take my buddy, right,
who I was just talking to.
If, for example, he had a strong family,

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he had friends that cared about him.
He had brothers and sisters who were tight-knit,
who would come check on them and say things like, hey, dude,
you've been in bed for 12 hours.
You want to go take a walk stuff like that,
then he would not be in such a low place, right?
But whenever--
Yeah.
I guess we don't realize how much the people around us

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really help us, right?
And so whenever you remove that, it's really easy
to fuck with people, right?
Yeah.
It's funny.
We have been talking for some time.
I never asked your name.
I'm very sorry for that.
My name is Chris.
I'll-- I'll-- yeah, Chris.
Yes.

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Yeah.
Thank you so much.
I apologize for not asking it before,
because I don't know.
We kind of jelled, right?
The second we started talking to each other.
And it feels like, you know, I know you for, like,
probably, two to three years.
And I hope that's what audience are able to catch.
Yeah.
You see, if Chris, let's say you had a family, right?

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And you had, let's say, two kids in your house.
And you did not feel like working today.
Would you not go to your job?
You would, right?
Of course.
Because you're like, hell or high water.
I'm earning the dollar today.
And a lot of these issues that we feel, you know, face today,
like anxiety and depression and whatever,

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100 other categories that people want to put themselves in,
that I think comes from their inability
to take responsibility, not in terms of personal life.
And I always see people complain
and they get weird when I say, responsibility,
because it's such a bad word in today's world.

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You know, people are not supposed to be disciplined.
People are not supposed to be responsible.
They are supposed to be free, right?
You know, for your audience,
I'm just putting up a big air coat as much as possible, you know,
because no human is free.
Literally nobody is free.
And this, this narration of, I want to explore life

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on my own, right?
That's just stupid.
That's little stupid, because, you know, if, if, if,
if my father, right, was an alcoholic,
you know, the first thing I'll do, I will never touch alcohol.
Of course.
Right.
You know, he had a brother who, who drank, so he was like,
okay, I'm not good to mess with that thing, right?

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And that came from a point of wisdom.
And wisdom come from experience, right?
Not armchair historians, right?
Not those people, you know, who are just trying to be experts,
but actually people who have lived out their lives, you know,
and there is a reason in the United States
that we call the World War Two veterans
as the greatest generation ever,
because they went through so much shit, you know?

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I think about that all the time, because like, will, you know,
it's very common for my parents and grandparents
to say, your generation is so soft, your generation is so soft.
Yes.
But whenever you think about what those people did in World War Two
from all over the world, right?
And they just storm the beaches into a literal, like, sea of gunfire.

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I'll be honest.
I don't, I really don't think I know a single person today
who would do that.
That could do that.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like the degradation of, I guess, our toughness or what do you think?
Now, I would say it's the problem with America is
and problem with many countries is people are,

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people are commercializing patriotism.
Like, today, if you said, I hate NASCAR, right?
Like most white people would be offended.
They would be like, how dare you, right?
And the reason is, you know, the patriotism has been commercialized.
It's like family values in a spam meat, right?

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You, in humans, you must be aware, you must, you must be eating it.
You know, it's considered as a culture now.
And people need to think where the fuck was it?
Like, I don't know, 100 years ago.
Yeah.
It was not our culture, right?
Even in a prohibition era, right?
Like, you know, like, a lot of people awarded alcohol, right?
Of course, because it was banned.

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But even prior to that, you know, even even that, you know,
in the history that we have seen, Americans have always loved alcohol, you know,
beer and everything.
But it was never a culture.
You see, when a commodity enters as a culture, that's the problem because it's cancer, right?
Because all of a sudden, you are putting value on something that is not valuable, you know,

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it can be measured in any matrix, right?
So let's say if you love your wife or mother or father, right?
You cannot measure it.
You cannot say, I love them 50%.
Right?
You, but certainly you as a person like Chris could give me an opinion, okay?

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I either kind of like NASCAR or I don't like it.
Now, the problem comes when they commercialized patriotism, you cannot talk against it.
Right?
So that becomes culture.
Good.
Could you tell me that?
And culture, how does, like, how does, so what you're describing is that whenever something

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becomes part of culture, it becomes supercharged and you say that you can't speak against it.
Why do you think that like you can't speak against something once it becomes mainstream
in your culture?
Because it's a commodity.
It is not spiritual.
It's not mental.
It's not so to be honest, it's not something that holds value.

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Right?
You know, like I am an Indian, you know, Indian's are taught, I always respect your illness,
right?
And that's a big thing here.
You can put a certain value on that, right?
Like, okay, that is important.
But if I said, you know, like cricket is a sport and it's my culture, that's bullshit.
Because it's a sport, you know, at the end of it, it's a sport that people play for money

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or, you know, like instant gratification, that's all.
It's not culture.
It's not going to sustain for centuries, right?
Values are different in culture and people are failing in identifying the difference between
values and commodity.
Okay.
This is beautiful.

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So if I run a company, let's say I am the president of cricket this sport.
Michael.
Michael, what is it?
Black rock.
Black rock, oh gosh.
If I'm black rock or whatever, my objective, right?
It because I'm a greedy ass bitch, right?
I'm a greedy mother fucker, right?

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I want all the money.
My objective is to make my product, whatever it is, cricket, NASCAR, alcohol, cheeseburgers.
If I can get this ingrained in the culture, I win.
Yes.
I win.
Yes.
So if you look at sneaker, right?

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It's going to be controversial what I'm going to say, but I will not say that.
Definitely.
But a certain group of people are attracted to sneakers, right?
Because it has become a culture now.
Sneaker is a culture.
And I am always careful to attach the word culture to anything because there is a way
to find line between culture and culture.
It's probably like in like three alphabets maybe, sorry, four alphabets, right?

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Yeah.
So I'm always careful of that.
Very careful of using those words because words mean a lot, at least to me.
So I see that, you know, like now rap music has inspired a lot of young people in a very
bad way, right?
It might be of disrespecting movement to talking about crime life or whatever it is.

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And I am definitely not the one to judge.
It will mean because I don't care.
Do I live in India?
And also over here, right?
Like whatever happens there should not affect me, at least in immediate future.
Unless, unless there is a civil war, I would say.
So what happens at the end of the day is people are commoditizing culture, right?

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So they're just discounting the value of culture.
And today everything is culture, right?
Like eating turkey on a Thanksgiving day is a culture.
Nobody asks questions or uncalter.
This is a great point.
And I think a lot of people, I think you brought up a great point with the rap music because

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rap music, at least here in America, was so effective at penetrating every culture, right?
So like the poor black people, they, this was just their life, right?
So it was just, they were born as a rich.
But then they created the rap music.
And the next thing you know, like you got like nerdy white kids who have a million dollar

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houses talking about, they're going to the strip club throwing all the money and stuff
like this.
And I think what, you bring a good point too because with culture, like whenever we talk about,
and maybe it's like this in India too, whenever we talk about, hey, how do we fix things here
in our country, in our city, in our house or whatever, or in our city.

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We often talk about what laws are we going to pass?
What, what new rules are we going to make?
What are we going to fund and what are we going to do to fund?
But what, just me sitting around and looking, what's broken is not the laws.
What's broken is the culture where we're glowing kind of like the wrong things.

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And I guess culture is really hard to fix, right?
I don't say it's hard to fix, but it's hard to digest because at the end of the day, right?
Like you could have all the materialistic things you want, but there's always that urge
to be free, right?

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Free from things like you know, not attached, right?
And you could, you could own a Lamborghini factory, don't I don't care.
But at the end of the day, we have that longing, right?
To be warmth and the warmth comes from people and people that you love and like.
So you know, that's the reason most dictators are like, like, lead a very privately life.

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Because they do understand that, okay, if my family member knows what the fuck I'm doing,
you know, they'll never like me to like that's the reality of it, right?
And that's why you see Kim Jong Un in a doing his own wife because, you know, she was a star,
right?
So she knew getting into the relation who was that person.

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So you know, it just gets complex, but I feel like culture is not so hard to change, but
it's certainly hard to digest because you know, just is like culture has always been seen
in some, in some levels, right?

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And you know, there has always been modification and makeup of the culture, but the problem
that people today have is they do not have the understanding of the culture, you know,
and when we don't have understanding of the culture, it becomes a ritual more than culture,
right?
It becomes, you know, tell it, you're like, okay, I don't know why my grandfather, you know,

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was shooting, I don't know, birds out of the air, but I need to do it now, right?
I do not know the reason behind it.
Then that becomes a ritual and that opens up a lot more of people who are against the culture,
then who would like the culture.
And you know, and I always feel like when I talk about culture, people always fall on their

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hereditary, right?
Like who was my grandfather or, you know, I'm a native Irish or I'm a native Brit, whatever
it is.
And I'm like, no, if you have been in the United States for like 10 or even 4 to 5 generations,
your vote is gone, right?
You are American by all practicalities and meanings.

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And if you being American, you still celebrate your culture from, you know, the other land,
that becomes a ritual because people do not understand, you know, the atrocities that people
went through, right, to build cultures.
You know, everybody talks about Irish and the potatoes, right?
You know, but nobody, you know, like a lot of people don't know what happened, you know,

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and what was the thought held that Irish people went through, right, to adopt, you know,
putato as their main food, you know?
And over a time, it just becomes ritual.
And once it becomes ritual, meaning once people are not able to digest a culture, it starts
to get commoditized very easily.
Yeah, I think kind of getting back to your interest, I think in, at least in the United States

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and I'd be curious to hear how it is in India, I think one of the main ways that the culture
is degraded and that people are beaten to death until they're in their own smoking weed
all day for, you know, seven days a week is kind of like the food, right?

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I think that here in America, the food is so shit and it's, people don't have time to do
proper research on their food because everyone's working 80 hours.
It's so bad that let's say, right, this is the typical situation, this situation existed
50 years ago, it existed today.
Hey, man, I just worked the long day, just worked 12 hours, you know, my balls is on my ass,

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I don't have anything at home, you know, so fuck it, man, I just want to pick up something
real quick on the way home.
There are no healthy options for you.
Nothing.
Now, you are lied to, if you're in America, you are lied to for a long time that would tell
you stuff like, for example, subway, subway's healthy, look at Jared, he lost all this
weight, right?
And now we're finding out that like, subway's bread is classified as like candy because

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there's so much fucking sugar in it.
And so that's what I'm saying.
So whether you opt in or not, your food is getting, is trash, right?
There's literal poison in it.
And thus now it makes you feel like shit.
And so now you're easier to like submit to bullshit where you don't have the strength to
stand up and say, no, I'm not doing this.

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It's not in my culture.
You say, yeah, fuck it.
You know, jack off all day.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
So, Chris, I think you're on point, right?
When you say, they lie to you, but I would not say they lie to you, but they have convinced
you.
You see, because convincing is a bigger threat than lie.
Right?

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If I said, Chris, there is a beautiful girl behind you, right?
You would say, fuck you when it's a lie, right?
You know, instant, but if it convinced you, right?
If I gave you some bullshit theories and if it convinced you and you would be convinced
that there is, there is always a beautiful woman behind me.
That's a bigger threat, right?
Because that messes up with your psychic.

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And it convinces you of something that's false.
And all major brands have always done convincing because convincing is very important because
that's what we do to kids.
Yes.
Reconvince them of realities and we tie them in a certain boundaries, right?
And all of those boundaries are assumed they do not exist in real life, right?

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So, it is the convincing and that, by the way, that's a great point, too, because
if you are such a good convincing, then you will always, you can lead people in whichever
way you desire, whether it's good, evil or indifferent.
So do you think that, like, let's just say food, for example, such poor food culture exists

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here because do you think people are getting better at convincing?
Do you think we have new tools or like, because human beings haven't changed much over the
past thousand years, but we do have cell phones.
We have, you know, it's not just a newspaper.
Do you think that's super charging it?
No, I feel like people have been domesticated literally like sheep and profilose, literally,

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because you see in today's society, right, if you own a farm and you homeschool your kids,
you're considered as a hippie.
When for for course, that being a hippie and people do not understand the real meaning of
hippie, right?
So, what has happened is, corporations have convinced you of a lifestyle that is a standard,

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right?
You send your children to school, okay?
You are a young woman who has just, you know, like, given a beautiful life, right?
You have created a beautiful life for you to do.
After six months, you put that kid into a big air.
You go back to the grinding machine, right?

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And they receive a culture dissolving, right, Chris?
Because I feel like the best memories of your life would be the first ten years of your
life, ten to twelve years, once again, consciousness, right?
And after that, it's just shit after shit hitting the family.
Exactly.
But so I've heard people say that so in my observation, every generation is a bit like a

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better word, softer than the prior generation, right?
Like, my parents had to go through more struggles than me.
Their parents went through more struggle, right?
Thanks to technology.
So do you think that maybe like this generation, what we're seeing right now is just the tipping
point, because there's eventually going to be a tipping point where the generation is so
soft that it's just incompatible with the way our ancestors lived, and thus we will just

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like plunge into a dark space.
Do you think they're, I think, I think we have passed that point.
I think we have passed that point.
I truly feel like that.
I truly feel like that because by the way, it's short introduction, right?
Because I own a company called Staruana, like we help people grow their source of nutrition
in their homes.

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So I am very active with a very huge farming community in India.
By the way, India is like, you know, like a food basket of the world because we have so
much.
We grow literally everything because the geography is so varied.
Now we grow from apples to little potato, like everything we grow because the, you know,

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geography is so varied, you know, people think like India is a hot, messy place.
Most of it is not.
It's a very geographically varying area that has been cultivated for more than a millennia
now.
I guess indents know what the fuck they're doing in terms of farming, but even these corporations

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have convinced farmers to do chemical farming and they feel like there is not a big.
I'm not going to that because a lot of people have disappeared talking about that.
Oh, I'll stay away from this.
So we're not going to go into Ganesh because I love you.
And if you disappeared, I would genuinely cry, right?
We're across the world.

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I would cry, dude.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I like that.
It's like the chemical fertilizer mouthy out there just taking people out.
Technical fertilizer, good companies, they are very good corporations, obviously.
It's a $140 billion industry and it grows around 13% every year.

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So I would just somebody is lining up their pockets.
I don't know.
It's probably not me.
And you would not dare to act against that because teaching dependency, you know, and you
you mentioned something like, you know, every generation gets softer, right?
Like air could softer.
I don't think it's getting softer.

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It's just get we are dependent on more and more things.
We are not self sufficient anymore.
You know, we don't know shit, right?
A lot of people think that tech savvy, they couldn't, they couldn't fix a frequent speaker
in a phone, right?
Fuck that.
They would not even understand if the latest I use software got glitched, they would not

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know how to fix that.
And they think that tech savvy because they are software engineers, you know, and it has
given them a false sense of confident confidence because crystal one thing in life is, I heard
you were talking to rapper, right?
I don't remember his name.
He was in the previous episodes.

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No, no, not that guy one more.
You were talking about bullying and everything.
Yes, Mr. Master.
And yeah, and then you were talking to a Gigi Choo lady, right?
I think from Israel.
And you you asked her something, right?
You asked her, why do we want to, why do we want change in life?
And I had that probably the before yesterday and I have been thinking about it for a long

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time.
And I think I have the answer for you.
The reason that people want to change all the time is consequences.
So human brain typically likes to work within fixed parameters and fixed results.
That is why people don't like chaos, right?
Meaning the more outcomes that you can protect, the more safer you are.

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It's that simple.
So the urge to growth is nothing but that, but the problem with today's world is we are
more dependent on things and we have a false sense of confidence because there is so much
less consequences because if you wanted to go to Starbucks, right?
And you know, by mistake, you hit McDonald's in Google Maps.

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You went to McDonald's, not a bit.
You just turn around and go to Starbucks.
What the consequence?
Maybe 10 minutes.
But imagine your father or my father, you know, wanting to go to Texas looking at a map,
a paper map and ending up in, I don't know, African South Dakota or North Dakota, like

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the consequences is very big, right?
So then they had to come up with skills and they had to master skills, right?
And the master of skills led them to be dependent on themselves.
And then they, I unfortunately seek it's that struggle and I feel bad for them because I

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was talking to the kid and she was very interested in eggs and chicken, right?
And I just showed her a video of how the chicken is processed, right?
Like I did not show, but you know, she found it out, right?
Because she was the curious.
She found it out on YouTube, like how is it processed?
And she was like, physically traumatized, right?

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And I have seen adults forget a child, I have seen adults crying in a corner after seeing
how, how beef is processed or they do not have any idea.
And I have seen kids, when I talk to them, I get very sad because I had a child once who
thought that the food that they eat, right, like vegetables is manufactured in a industry,

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in a factory.
She thought machines did it.
Could imagine, could you imagine even in a wildest dreams not knowing how it works?
No way, right?
That's a very scary dream because I am all for AI, I am all for technology because I am
myself, I am a digital marketer, you know, I understand digital marketing and everything.

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But what I feel is, you know, I can live with our Facebook, we're easy, right?
You know, I might have to write you a little, that would reach in like three months, but that's
okay, right?
But I would not live without food, definitely.
Yeah, of course.
So do you think, like, take the beef because you, this is a really good point.

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We go and I buy chicken in the grocery store.
And I cook it and I eat it and I'm like, oh man, that was great.
But nobody has a clue, the shit that goes on to feed the chicken, to give the chicken some
land to range, all the pesticides, all the stuff, the vaccines and stuff that are pumped into

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it.
And then the killing of the chicken, all of this, do you think if people kind of knew the
entire process, you think that their habits would change?
Fuck yeah.
I would say, definitely without a doubt, without a sliver of doubt, I feel like people have
become too comfortable feeling invincible.

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Like, they feel like nobody can touch them.
And I'm like, you were one disaster away from breaking down this whole economy.
You know, people don't realize that.
You know, you, you, you are the probably two tornadoes away from, you know, destroying
half of the crops into this, yes, eat it.
And next thing nobody does, shit to eat.

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You know, you know, COVID, COVID kind of taught us that I don't know how it was in India,
but over here, over the course of like a month, it went from, hey, how you doing?
You know, in the coffee shop, well, hey, hey, Marie, how you doing?
All of this to like, you would go and now your neighbor, who's your friend, you go outside,
you have a mask going outside and they're looking at you like bitch, do not come over here

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or I would shoot like this.
Yes, yes, the way to put it would be like the fabric, the social fabric broke down like
that.
And it's so people like, hey, this shit can go fast.
Yes, yes.
And what I always meant people is COVID, COVID was not a natural problem.

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It was a logistical issue, thank God, it was a logistical issue because, this we have not
had worldwide famine in in a very long time and thank God for that and I pray we never have,
you know, a worldwide famine because people would end up, you know, being cannibalists, you

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know, if that came to that.
So all the fabric of civil and nice people, I'm not talking in nice in terms of being good
to each other, but faking it, right, on a very macro society level, that's just faking
it.
I feel like because people are not preparing for anything to, I would say, you know, today

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you'd have to probably work for 25 years to pay your student loans, then probably under
20 years to get a home and by the time you're tired, you're done, you ate shit food
for your life, you probably have a cancer or any ailment, right?
So it's like a breakfast menu, right?
There is like 100 diseases, pick your own poison and then you end up paying millions and

(34:36):
dollars to healthcare system, which tricks you into believing that they're able to heal
you.
Like that's an American dream summarized, right?
And that's a sad thing because we have grown attached to maternityistic things.
I know I sound like an old person, but yeah, we have, right?

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Because it into this world.
Okay, I am a technology, I'm a techie, right?
I understand technology.
I asked this question to everybody, right?
What is the one major difference between iPhone 10 and iPhone 15?
Nothing.
Yeah, it's bullshit, right?
It's just marketing, right?

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Yeah, right.
But if you see the difference between the iPhone 5 and 10, that's a leap, right?
But it's not leap now.
There is nothing happening in the market.
It's just gimmick, right?
It's just bitter fast cameras, you know, faster processors.
Okay, but what is the actual technological leap?

(35:38):
Nothing.
And well, I think to what you were saying earlier with the culture, right?
The iPhone and smartphones have successfully embedded themselves in the culture.
And now I think what specifically iPhone is really good at this, what they're selling
is a technological advancement with they're selling a status.
Look what I got.
Hey, you came out last week, bro.

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Oh, you don't have it, your broke is shit, right?
And so it's kind of like a status thing.
And unfortunately, a lot of the status at least here in the States is surrounded around
material things.
You're right here.
Look at this.
iPhone 11.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm so jealous.
It's 11.
It's 11.
It's 11.
It's not 11.
Because I understand technology.

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I don't know what to be ripped off.
I didn't even know we were 15.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Look at that.
Look at that.
So that's the problem that, you know, in today's society that we are facing.
And I am not a really pessimistic person, like the person whom you met on Omega, but I

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need to be really realistic with what I, what I expect, right?
Because unhealthy food has become culture and people don't know shit about nutrition.
They look at the, you know, they depend on software companies to lie to them.
You know, because right now on, on, you know, another monitor right here, right, right

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here, I have statistics of nutrition because that's what I do.
I get for my company, for my farmers.
And I see that the amount of drop in percentages of nutrition in food is insane.
In insane in terms of, I'll just give you a simple example, Chris, if you're interested.

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You know, right?
Could you explain like, how do you measure a drop in nutrition in food?
How's that measured?
Is it vitamins or?
So you picked up a very interesting topic.
I feel like, and I think you're a good interviewer for that's sick.
So we've had to figure out a system right at least people here, how to do that because

(37:54):
testing's have not been around for a long time, right?
But we were lucky and indirectly, for a few and thanks to British.
So because Brits wanted to have the earliest toxic workplace systems, what they did is,
let's say you are from, I don't know, let's say Dallas, Texas, right?

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You are from Dallas.
So for the whole Dallas district, they would have competitions for the best farmer.
And the best farmer would be evaluated on the output, like how much he grew, right, in
a certain area.
And what is the quality and the look and the feel of the vegetable or fruit?

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And thankfully they started testing.
Vegetables and, uh, flavors, fruits as early as 1918.
And it become very rigorous after 1932.
And we have our list archives of 1948.
Because that's when India was like independent.

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That's when the earliest surveys was done.
So we have a benchmark of 48 and then we haven't been testing for every two to three years.
And today you could probably get a nutrition test done on a vegetable or a grain or a fruit,
probably in India at the cost of like, I would say $50, $50 to $60.

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So you could get tested like what does your food have?
So, you know, if I give you just an example, um, you know, everybody, everybody in this world
loves wheat, right, cold wheat because bread and everything is manufactured out of it.
Just difference from 1989 to 2017.

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Protein came down by 17.26%.
So, yeah, how is that possible?
It's the same plant, right?
It's not, that's a problem.
It's not because the problem with artificially doing farming, right?

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That's like monocroping.
You might have heard of monocroping, right?
It just, putting one plant throughout the fricking million acres.
That's not natural.
It's not sustainable.
And unit is government has certain plants where they pay you to leave your land barren.
Have you heard of it?
No.
So they pay you around, I think, $350,000 or something for 10 acres per year if you just leave

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it barren because soil is dying.
So there are, you know, there are a number of reasons because I give you an indirect opinion,
right?
Because I don't want to disappear.
You know, it's like any drug comes into market in a cocaine, heroin, LSD, whatever it is,
right?
So it's not as the early stages, right?

(40:54):
People take small doses and they die, right?
But over time, over time, the drug lord realises that only he can make money is by diluting
the potency of the, you know, African chemical.
So if you got high on, let's say, one milligram of cocaine today, probably in a VQ would

(41:15):
have to get two milligrams.
And you think, okay, I'm building a persistence.
No, it's not that.
It's the drug lord who is diluting more and more cocaine so that higher supply, higher
money in higher profits.
I hope you understood what I'm trying to say.
People do not earn money on a constant.

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People only earn money when there is a constant demand and the demand is always increasing.
So can we do an example with food?
Yeah.
Like, let's say that hypothetically, you would eat one pound of grain and then one pound

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of grain not only fed you, it met all of your nutritional needs, it made you feel good,
all of this.
Yeah.
So now, today, you eat that pound of grain and you're not satiated, you're still hungry.
Yes.
You don't need to take multivitamins now because the nutrients aren't there, you feel like

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shit, right?
And stuff like that.
So now, you may say, well, damn it, I need a pound and a half of grain.
Is that the kind of tracking that right?
Yeah, but you're underestimating the impact, I would say.
Let me give you a plain example.
That's like proven.
I don't have to go on and lamentate like everybody sees you.

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I'm somewhat safe, I would say.
Everybody loves spinach, right?
Spinach is a very good leafy thing that everybody eats.
So let's say if you're born, when were you born?
If you don't mind asking?
1990.
1990, right?

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OK, so you're late to go dance, I would say.
In 1948, because that's our list data we have, 100 grams of garlic, like spinach, right?
Let me just put it into bounds, sorry, I'm not American.

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You need to give me a second.
We have to be grateful about fucking everything.
Why can't we just use, you know, grains and stuff like the rest of the world?
I think it makes us feel weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right, if you ate 3 1/2 ounces of spinach, right?
You would get around 158 mg of iron.

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So mg is like a micrograms, right?
I hope people know that because that's what all medicine is measured with.
So all I'm trying to say is 1948, probably your grandfather, right?
3 1/2 ounces of spinach a day, he would get 158.4 mg iron, right?
Now, fast-track it to 1992, 1992, which was like two years after you were born at four

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years before I was born.
The same 3 1/2 ounce of spinach, right, would contain just 2.71 mg.
So drop is from 158.4 to 2.71.
Yes.
So if you had to consume the same amount of iron, right, as your grandfather in 92, you

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would have to eat, let me just again, I'm sorry.
It's a two, you'd have to eat around 206 ounces of spinach.
That's like more food than any one we eat in a day, even like a huge person.
So what I would say is that I'm guessing that people are not eating that much spinach, of

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course.
So then what, then are just people just malnourished and what's the side effects?
Yeah, people are malnourished.
So every human being, every organism has something called a score nutrient and their body
tries not to touch it because it's for those fighter flight situations or life-and-death

(45:31):
situations that gets tapped into.
But we're seeing more and more people collapsing, have seen people collapsing, like they're just
walking and it's dying.
Yes.
That's because of that because your body is able to, your body is tapping into core nutrition
because it doesn't have anything else to give and people just keep pushing it.

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Yeah.
So is that like, is that the side effect though?
Like we've gotten so bad, like so many nourishing antibodies or just obesity.
Obesity is it, is it, I would say I don't care about what your dietation is because they
studied eight-month diploma, which should think.
I get very angry when I talk about dietation, sorry.

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I trust the dietation system, but I just, I know for a fact that they work for farmers,
they do not work for you or me.
So when your body is not able to meet, you know, the required nutrition, you know, what
it does, it forages, it wants more food and keep eating it, right?

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I'll give you a simple example, Chris.
You know, you probably studied in your second or third standard, third class when you're
a kid that you eat or in four-bit vitamin C, right?
So from 1940 to 2017, vitamin C came down by 75%, sugar increased by 400% in, in four inches.

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So, now, yeah.
How the fuck does that happen?
How the fuck does that happen?
Because I could understand, oh, the, the, the, maybe the soil is shit now.
We fucked it all up.
No, no, it's not a butch oil.
It's not a butch oil.
It's about, you know, like we, we do dog breeding, horse breeding, right?
We are breeding these oranges, like genetically, we are modifying them to give us best taste

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and appearance, not nutrition.
So the orange today is drastically different than the orange, maybe they ate a hundred years
ago.
Exactly.
Not, not even drastically, but in, in some part of world, it's not even remotely related to
that.
That was a hundred years ago.
Because we are breeding oranges to be more appealing to visual and taste and cement.

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So, what does human taste sugar?
Fuck in hell, man.
Right?
So, what do I do?
Okay.
Your doctor says you have deficiency vitamin C. Your gym brain thinks, let me eat more
orange.
But eating more sugar and your body is like fuck you.
Any day that's for sugar.
I actually want to see, right?

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And your body knows what does it need and it will crave and people think like food
craving is something that's like, you know, whatever, that food cravings is the best signal
that you could get.
That's why people who are on diet want to eat certain food in certain times because they

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are just craving because the body needs those particular things.
By the way, I don't know whether Chris, you're a vegan or not.
I hope you're not.
Are you a vegan?
By the way?
No, no, I'm not.
I eat everything.
Thank God.
I mean, thank God.
Yeah, so, you know, in a half vegans drink almond milk, right?

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Yes.
Almond milk is a protein deficient thing like it rice out protein in your body.
That's crazy.
So, if you have like 200 MG's or, you know, let's say 200 units of protein in your body, you
drink almond milk, it drains the 200 into probably 192 or 180.

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It drains protein in your body, it's not even, it's, it's, it's a bullshit, man.
It's like imagine filling right into your gas tank in your car.
That's what we're doing.
You're destroying your engine.
Yeah.
So, I kind of see the progression here too.
So, the nutrients go out the food, right?

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Sugar goes up and so then our body craves more, we eat more.
Oh my gosh.
Like, I was sick and I need vitamin C. So, I ate 400 fucking oranges and now I'm obese, right?
It's a now I'm fatter.
I have less motivation, less drive.
It's easier to corrupt my future, kind of like back to what you were saying.
I guess what, like, what is, because you, you're very well read on this topic.

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Most people aren't like what is the average person supposed to do because it like all of
this shit, everything in the grocery store is like kind of bullshit, man.
He's manufactured.
Yeah.
He's manufactured.
And I hate to agree with that, like, I think, Polarico, a kid who believed that food is
manufactured in factories because, indirectly it is.

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If you're a regular person, right?
I would say this, don't trust in organic food.
If somebody says pay me more because it's organic, say fuck you because Chris, you might be
aware that people are calling like liberals are calling math as racist, like mathematics
as racist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those people should not exist in my opinion, but anyways, they do.

(50:54):
So, what is that?
What a fucking tension.
Yo, my guy.
Yo, you are awesome.
What a fuck?
Yo, my guy.
Yo, you are awesome.
What a fuck?
Yo, my guy.
Yo, my guy.
Yo, my guy.
Fuck.
Yo, you just did a quick little drive by like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
it went from orges to fuck them people.

(51:14):
Yo, you are a king, bro.
This was awesome.
Okay.
Those people should not exist.
All right.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for in the interview.
Just quit driving.
No problem.
No problem.
So, math, mathematics says 2 plus 2 equals 4, right?
Every time.
You have to work, who the hopes you jump?

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It will always be 4 and parent, it's racist.
I don't understand how.
Maybe I am illiterate.
I don't know at this point of time.
But Chris, just to just for like, you know, your, your knowledge, right?
A business works in a way where cost of input plus profit equals sales, right?
Yes.

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So, the cost of a product is determined by the cost of input, correct?
Yes.
So, when it's organic farming, it costs you less to do farming.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
A lot of people won't.
So, just first of all, organic farming is supposed to be forming without pesticides.
No.

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It's, it's, it's a type of farming where you're not inducing synthetic chemicals like lab
manufactured chemicals.
Okay.
Rather than relying on natural things like, tar of shit, sheep, you know, like sheep and
cow, whatever it is, like whatever shits literally.
You know, you put it back to land and you do, you do other things apart from everything

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apart from, you know, synthetic chemicals.
So when you go to an organic produce market and somebody says, you have to pay me $2 more
because it's organic.
You say, fuck you because understand this that the input cost for an organic farmer is
cheaper than a chemical farmer.
I thought that the argument was that the organic farmer has less yield because they don't

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use this.
That's, that's what they'll convince you.
Well, yeah, that's what I'll say.
Like, is this real or not?
Or do, or do they have other methodologies and they yield as the same or greater?
Yes.
I, I, I, I live around this right and on this particular topic.
If, if that was the truth, right, if, if it was really the fact that organic farmers, even

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those scientifically proven over and over again, even in India and Africa, you know, probably
like millions of samples, you know, and side-based comparisons by agriculture universities have
proven this wrong.
And if, if that was a truth, right, that organic yield is less or, you know, there, there is justification
for higher prices, then there will be far more organic farmers killing themselves than chemical

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farmers.
Why would, you said killing themselves?
Why would they kill themselves?
Yes.
Because of debt, the money they owe to chemical companies or farming equipment companies and
they, they don't have the hardwares that they expected and they're, they can do anything.
Because the chemical company is going to come after a land and for a farmer, you know, it

(54:10):
would, he would better die before, you know, killing a plant because that's all he has.
Yeah.
So, okay.
So then they've pulled the 180, right?
This is, there, there's a famous, is the Oreo Thins, right?
So we had, here in America, we had Oreos, you, you probably know about Oreos, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
And then they came out with a brand new product, Oreo Thins, right?

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And the Oreo Thin is less cookie and it's less input, it's less everything than a regular
Oreo, but it costs more.
It costs more?
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's thin, it has the thin label on it and it's different, right?
So they, they feel like fucked us in the same way with the organic farming.
Yeah, exactly.
Which is the organic farming?

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Which is the organic farming?
You say the organic food, it has, is more nutrient dense or not?
Definitely.
So it's, it's a bit more technical, so I don't, I never go into it because, you know, then
it, then comes the topic of how was the seed selected?
Is it a headroom seed or a GMO?

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And unfortunately more and more headroom seeds are getting extinct in the planet.
You know, we are, we are less, more than 800 varieties of seeds in the past, like, I think
11 years from 2012 or 13, I remember, if I remember correctly, we are less, more than 800
varieties of seeds because of GMOs.

(55:40):
So do you think that this is, it's kind of sick to think that there are people right now
driving Lamborghinis and private outs and all of this shit?
Yeah.
Hey, how do you make your money?
It's like, I genuinely alter seeds and food.
Yeah, you, you feel like shit, right?

(56:01):
If, you know, Gates has started patenting seeds, do you know that?
No, I didn't.
Yeah, and he is, he is buying up shit off land everywhere.
And if this, if this, I don't say he's evil because people will off my dude.

(56:25):
Let's say I'll say this.
Yeah.
Microsoft fucking sucks and Windows does too.
It doesn't just suck, it sucks, a big fat fucking dick.
It sucks.
Yes.
I hate working with Windows.
Yeah.
Take that Bill Gates on your price.
So we share the same, we share the same emotions, I feel like, but what I want to say is
if food was the next, not the next big thing, then why would they invest so much?

(56:51):
People need to think about it.
I think this goes back to like the human psychology that I cannot understand, which is this.
Let's just say hypothetically, you're a person with $200 million.
Why are you over here trying to buy farmland or genetically alter seeds so that you can
now have $300 million?

(57:11):
I just, like, I just cannot comprehend that.
Like if life is a game, if money is a game, you've won, dude.
You've made it to the finish line, you've won everything.
Why are you over here doing stuff and specifically, like, kind of sleazy stuff to get your next
hundred million?
To me, I cannot write this with this type of money.

(57:32):
I would say that a lot of people would ask you the same question.
Who me?
If you got $10,000, yeah.
If you own $60K in a year, why are you still going to work just retire?
Because for a person who is earning $10K in a year, $60K is $6K's income.

(57:52):
That's a great point.
Right?
But if you are earning $60K, $60K is just like a annual salary for you.
So you are looking at a person who is earning probably $500K and you say, "Eas only a half
a million."
I need to work harder.
I passionately call it as a dick measure in contest.

(58:18):
And we always like to measure something that's bigger than us.
No, I really don't have the same thing.
I feel that.
But I think there is a certain number that is like, you won't have to work.
Your kids won't have to work.
Your kids won't.
I think once you hit that number, I'm just like, "What?"

(58:38):
And I understand if like, "Okay, I'm Bill Gates.
I made my money with software.
I'm going to continue making money with software."
Like, I get it.
This is what you do.
This is like kind of your hobby.
But to go off and say, "All right, man, like, hey, this software money is drying up, dude.
I got to start talking with people's food.
I got to start like, release some mosquito.
That's weird, right?"

(58:59):
Yeah.
But it's like, they're capitalists.
They're finding the next thing.
You think that's, you think that their motivation is not to make the money, it's just to continue
winning.
It is still a dick much than contest.
I would say.
Because once you get into that mindset, right, where I am the best, right, and you are convinced

(59:23):
that you can do anything, then you try to pull shit like that.
But you are like, "Okay, his, his, his, my guy is bigger than me."
Yeah, yeah.
So, okay, I got it.
So, it's just like, and you know what?
It's like, "Oh, man, fucking Jeff Bezos just got that new yacht, that bald son of a bitch.
Damn it."

(59:43):
Yes.
You know what?
Fuck that, Lizzo.
All right.
You call your assistant, "By all the fucking farm land."
You hear me, Cheryl?
Buy it now.
Yeah.
And so it's like, you know what I mean?
Exactly.
I almost showed Jeff Bezos.
But I'll tell you, have you seen Jeff Bezos girlfriend?
Yes, then, you won?
Oh my God.
She is.

(01:00:03):
Oh my Lord, she can do whatever she wants.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
She's beautiful.
She is not really.
What?
You don't like her?
It's like, it's like a difference between a factory fresh, cool straws to a aftermarket
Borsha.
You think she's after me?

(01:00:26):
If you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I still know, dude.
I don't know.
Well, a lot of her.
She's honestly, look, she's had some work done.
She's been enhanced.
She has like a little high sticky look to her, but oh my gosh.
Could you imagine this girl?
Mmm, mmm.
Okay.

(01:00:47):
Let me say, let's just say that she called you.
She's like, "Hey, Ganesh.
Hey Ganesh."
I would block her right now.
No questions.
[LAUGHTER]
Well, you wouldn't even like, let's say you don't want her.
You wouldn't even like, let her alone maybe get a $100 and more block her?
No, dude.
No.

(01:01:07):
Because that's just lazy money, you know?
And I'm not interested in money because I know I'm evil enough if I wanted money, I would
have shit load of it.
And I try to suppress that side because I understand that money is not everything.
So you don't participate in the DIG measure in contest?
It doesn't appeal to you.
I try to avoid it, but as I don't know, like deep down, you're like, "Oh, I kind of want

(01:01:35):
to."
Fuck yeah, fuck yeah.
Because I feel like, you know, I need to have a piece of land, but I am like, okay, if
I have a piece of land, then I will need more.
Right?
This poor land is not enough for me.
I need a little bit more, little bit more.
And that drives your greed.
And I don't like it that much, dude.

(01:01:56):
Because yeah, I'm just trying to be a simple human here.
No, not the modified version.
Yeah, I totally agree, man.
And I've been lucky enough, look, I worked at McDonald's for five years or whatever.
And I've made six figures as a software engineer.

(01:02:18):
The money going from 20,000 to 100,000 a year, it really didn't change.
Yeah.
It didn't make me happier at all, to be honest.
Yes.
I mean, it provides you a sense of security, that's all.
It does, yeah.
But the sense of security also comes with a shit ton of insecurity, right?

(01:02:43):
Because you look at your colleague who's earning probably 200K and you see him pulling up in
a fucking BMW and you're like, fuck, dude, I need to buy a freaking Lamborghini, right?
Yeah.
I need to buy his wife in front of him.
No, I've just joking.
But I've never had those urges, man.

(01:03:06):
Honestly, I've been turned off by the more money I make.
Because what I've noticed is that the people who work at McDonald's, flipping burgers, are
better people than the people who are made up 500, 200.
But here's the best way to describe it.
You have a dinner and you're inviting over friends.

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You could either invite over the lady who flips burgers that make the journals or the guy who's
making a million dollars a year.
Yo, that guy is a dickhead, nine times out of dickhead.
Give me the lady who flips burgers.
And so like, I'm making money.
I'm like, oh my gosh, they're playing weird political games with me.
They're going behind my bosses back.
They're doing all of them.

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So it's like, I'm kind of turned off to it.
Me, I like regular people like you, Ganesh.
Like if you have money, I would want you.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, thank you so much.
I feel like this generation that's coming up, right?
I think they're at that point where they, it's like when it comes to mutiny, right?

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Like a revolt against an establishment.
There is something called as mass volunteering.
So it's like, okay, you put Chris in prison.
Okay, two million people will try to get arrested.
Now, arrest all of us, you know, the system gets broken very quickly and people shit themselves

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even if they are the most powerful people and that's been pretty evident enough in the
history, right?
And now you see this generation who say fuck you to corporations.
Okay.
And they feel very good about it.
Because they understand that, okay, you know, this modern slavery system is still grinding
and I don't want to be part of it.

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And I'm very happy and I'm very excited for this generation because they will bring in
a lot of change, I would say.
I think that kind of the progression is a little scary to what you're saying because I
think growing up, at least here in America, unfortunately, I don't know much about how

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it is over there in India, but we are just like you.
We see the same propaganda, don't worry.
Okay, good.
So we're in the same boat.
So like growing up, let's just say like 1960 to 1980 or whatever, you would graduate high
school, you would go get a job with your high school degree, you had enough money to

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at least support yourself.
You know, a lot like my grandparents, she was a single mom working an uneducated job as
she bought her house cash, crazy.
And so kind of those jobs are gone now, right?
The high school education jobs are gone.
So essentially what the system said is like, hey, you want to make that money, you want
to be able to afford a house, go get a college degree.

(01:06:02):
Go to college, right?
And so now currently in America, we have the most educated population in the history of
the country.
And it's like, okay, this is cold, like, hey, everyone got fucking degrees in shit, we
should be making money.
So, one, we're not making the money, we thought we were some are a two, right?
All of these white collar jobs, all of like these educated jobs or whatever, are now all

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of a sudden kind of unsafe, right?
Because we have this AI industry.
And how do you make, like if I'm an AI company, the way I make profit is by replacing people's
jobs.
Say, hey, don't pay him to do this, pay my AI.
It's, it's has the price, right?
And so now I can see people being like, what the fuck am I supposed to do?

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I did everything, I went to college, I got the degree, I bust my ass, took all these
certifications and stuff.
And now all of a sudden I just got laid off by a fucking computer, right?
I can definitely, like, the frustration is palpable.
I even see it in people every day.
And so maybe that will, like to your point, accumulate into like a revolt or early on bad.

(01:07:17):
But Chris, I, I totally believe this AI is just, just like a, like, it's literally the
same because everybody knows that this is like what I'm saying.
But the, the dot com bubble, the internet bubble that we had in early in the 90s and 2000s,
and people don't remember that.

(01:07:40):
And I feel old.
Can I talk about it?
Yeah, it's, it's literally the same route because, okay, because you work and take you when
you understand that A is not sustainable.
Because it costs you more to run it than how much would you earn from it?
Right.
It's true as social media companies, right?
Social media companies lost money for like tens and 15 years and now they print it.

(01:08:02):
Yeah.
And they printed it because they did, they did the lobbying.
But you have to understand that AI don't vote, fortunately.
So your congressman is always forced to fight employment for you because otherwise you say
fuck you are not voting, right?
Fortunately, currently, pay a stone vote.

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In the future, if an AI is hearing this, I love AI.
I don't hate it.
Yo, goodness, you are a funny guy, bro.
By the way, I love all AI robots.
By the way, if there's a cute robot come, come see me.
Yeah.
Come see me without a blade, please.
Yeah.

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Yeah, just come see me with your, with your little, you know, you little robot pussy, you
ever and I'll touch it in.
Yeah.
You know, you're not sacred at all.
Yeah.
So I'll be like, you know, AI is still available because we have brilliant people like Sam
Altman leading it.

(01:09:06):
Um, but for those people, we don't know.
Open A is not the first company for Sam Altman.
I know.
He was why a coordinator before, right?
And yes, no, he has done a lot of shit and you know, a few shit stuck and a lot of shit,
just like flushed down.
Yeah.
You know, because, um, if people realize how much water is being used, right, to cool the

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servers and run the service.
Um, now you're saying, you know, European country is banning AI, you know, that, right?
Like they're, they're not letting you host a server in countries because they're like,
fuck you.
You're taking too much water.
We don't have that.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Slot of countries are banning servers like cloud servers for AI and processors and

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uh, uh, what they call the super computer silos, right?
Like where they have multiple GPUs running.
Um, he, a lot of countries are banning it because they're like, you are draining my river.
Like, fuck it.
Yeah.
I'm not taking that.
So what are you doing?
And cause a lot, a lot of people are saying that listen, you know, this tech is coming

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for your jobs and we have to ban this now.
Like worldwide, we have been in it.
What, what do you think about those people?
Look, I really don't give a shit about AI to be honest because I have seen the same
scare every, uh, every, for every year I've worked.
Okay.

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You know, people said when dot com came and there would be no salesman.
But salesmen are still there because you know why?
Because if you want to buy, buy something big like a car or a house, you do not fucking
trust the computer.
You want a person, right?
You, you always want a person.

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Um, you know, if, if I wanted to convince you, right to, I don't know, to go to Russia, a
computer cannot do that.
I don't care how beautiful that robot looks like.
You'd not trust it because you just understand that there is an ethics behind it.
There is a morality.

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I think, I think you're totally right.
Um, and this is why a lot of people are kind of screaming that AI is coming for people
like musicians and artists.
And I just think that is true because as soon as you know that it was created by a machine,

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it's not a, at least to me.
Yeah.
No, I think, I think it is coming out a lot of shit musicians or pretend to be musicians.
Right.
Because they donate a lot of software to create music like EDM.
Of course.
Like, it's coming after them, yeah, for sure, but what about classical music?

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Exactly.
And I think the, the dangerous part about it is what if you're interacting with something
that was generated by AI or controlled by AI and you don't know it?
I think the, the best example today would be like social media, right?
There's, I would bet my life that there's millions and millions of AI bots all over the social

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networks.
But whenever we read it, because I think it has it clicked yet, whenever we read it, we assume,
oh my gosh, this is a real person.
And she says that she wants to touch little boys, penises.
Oh my gosh, the world is going to shit.

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The guy on Twitter said he wants to touch little boy penises.
And this is just like, and so I think that's the dangerous part.
But hopefully there's some really smart maybe entrepreneurs out there who right now are
working on maybe tools to label and say, yeah, that's AI and that's not because that, I
think that's kind of the, the dangerous area.

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I feel like AI is very good at imitation.
But imitation is a limited field.
You can only imitate so much.
Chris, I bet right now you're speaking in a manner that did not speak two months ago.
Oh, and you would not find, right?

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Right, you, your vocabulary must have increased or decreased.
It would not stay the same.
And the word that you have picked up watching a movie, you were talking to someone and that
is what makes you human because you are current in a constantly, you know, you are
changing in parameters of speech and the words you use.

(01:13:52):
Because if you, you know, that's and I don't think a can do that.
Hopefully, it can imitate you definitely.
But let's say, you know, it has happened to me right now.
You know, I see podcasting.
AI's have seen that like, you know, you just give a voice sample and it talks.
I have seen that.
I have tried it on my on my own podcast.

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It's sound shit because I feel embarrassed about the episode that I did because my vocabulary
was not that good or I just did not have a good day on that day, right?
And it is using that reference or that time frame, right?
To create my character, which has far evolved or surpassed the level that AI is able to

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build.
Yeah.
And I always feel like no matter how much technology you can use or whatever, at the end
of the day, human needs to each attempt is like, there is no difference.
Yeah, I think what I was saying earlier with like the bullshit detector and stuff, I think
something generally goes off with the AI is like, like, for example, I think if you were

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to ask a lot of people, like, I think Joe Rogan's such a big podcaster, if you were to ask
a lot of people, hey, dude, do you want to hear Joe Biden and Joe Rogan do a podcast?
Most people would say, yeah, like, hell, yeah, sign me up.
But right now you can create that podcast using AI and there's so much too many hours of

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training data on Joe.
I think it already exists.
I think it already exists.
Have I seen that?
No.
You're not?
No.
I think on Spotify just take out an interview between Joe Rogan and Steve Jobs.
I think I've seen that one.
But I think it was a very short natural, right?

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It's not natural.
And as soon as they hear, like, oh, it's AI, it's like, oh, it's trash.
It's a synonym.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's why, you know, in my current email, in the signature I put, a human, not an AI.

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Your head of the career.
Yeah.
I'm always ahead of the curve, hopefully.
But Chris, I really don't worry about AI because what I'm doing cannot be replaced by
AI.
I know that because we see on surface, people think AI can do everything, right?
But there is a great word in English.

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It's called as nuances, right?
The little things.
I'm pretty sure I can't do shit because there is a part of human that is very weird, right?
And I would say that's your dark side that gives you an advantage, right?

(01:16:44):
That an AI is told not to go there.
That's a good point.
And that's where AI is ill-prepared than you.
I also think too a lot of people don't realize that if you were to, like, all of the stimuli
that a human is exposed to from life to death, it's a lot of shit, right?

(01:17:05):
I go outside.
Oh my gosh.
There's trees.
There's a bird.
There's a bird in a puddle, all of this.
But AI is 100% trained on the internet.
And people kind of argue that, okay, well, the internet is us.
We express ourselves to the internet.
But I don't know about it.
I don't, yeah, like people fake.

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Like it's like, in real life, like I may be trying to cut my wrist open because I'm depressed,
you know, I'm a piece of shit, I'm crying.
But then I go on the internet and I'm like, life is so good, right?
So it is not.
Yeah.
I don't see, like, even the data existing to make this, like even the inputs do not exist to

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make it close to human.
Yeah.
I don't know, Chris, I'm made to do research on this.
And I'm just going out on a limb by saying this that I don't think AI is as efficient as
humans.
And it might be controversial in the worst, because the amount of energy that your brain
uses is very small when you compare it to an AI.

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And people think AI runs on your freaking I4 intel chip, like, just look at Nvidia right now,
they developed a chip for, I think, I think it was for $45,000, right?
And they spent $10 billion researching it.
10 freaking billion dollars, too.

(01:18:34):
Yo, and this is such a good point, it blew my fucking mind, because if you think about
right, so we consume food, aka calories, aka energy, right?
So it's like, I think they like the human body runs off of, or the brain takes up about
the same energy as like some type of light bulb.
It's like, oh, yeah, that light bulb right there.

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Yeah, that's the same on the internet that your brain takes.
And yeah, these AI's are trained on like the most massive of massive computers.
If you were surrounded by all of these servers at once without ventilation, you would die,
because it's so hot, right?
Probably even with ventilation.
Yeah, even with ventilation.

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So they're very inefficient.
Yeah, they're absolutely inefficient and they're garbage.
And it's all the VC's money, right?
You know, the same thing that happened with the Silicon Valley, right?
And Sam Alpane is just asking for $10 billion to come on.
I think you got it in your people.
I just transferred it in probably, you know, $10 billion that I couldn't really should

(01:19:40):
do that.
That was funny.
Yeah, I think if I think if a bank account had $10 trillion in it, it would break the app,
because it's not built in so many zero.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, no way, but maybe like what you were saying, because shit is so hard
now to tell what's a genuine opinion and what's propaganda, aka what is designed to manipulate

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your opinion to achieve an outcome.
And I wonder, like we know this exists in political terms and other stuff.
I wonder if, you know, the AI hype is just a very well efficient and well executed propaganda
kind of campaign.
I still feel like it's still a bubble, like a housing market bubble, R.com bubble,

(01:20:30):
because it's very, yeah, which point, crypto.
It's like everybody knows that this is just a gig, right?
Everybody knows it's not for long term.
It is good to imagine, fuck AI.
Right now if you have $10 trillion, fuck $10 trillion, if you have $12 trillion right now,

(01:20:54):
you could manipulate the whole freaking US market right now on your fingertips.
Right?
Like you could literally fuck industries and make companies bankrupt with a $20 fund.
I feel like it's a wet doom of every hedge fund manager out there, right?
How to have a trillion dollars?

(01:21:16):
You know, even I do some trading so I know that people leverage their money, right?
So they leverage at least four to five times.
So imagine you trading at $5 trillion to, oh my God, you would break the New York stock exchange.
You could buy the fucking New York stock exchange.

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What would you do?
What would you do if you had one trillion dollars genuinely?
What would you do?
Yeah.
I would go the Kanye away.
You know, what Kanye said, right?
But for a certain amount of money, you could buy the earth.
So you want to be the king.
So you're a fit fucker.
You want to be, you want to rule over earth?

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Yes.
I don't rule over the earth.
But I would do some necessity sanitation.
Yeah.
Those people would do that.
Because it's these.
Yes, definitely.
Those people who think math is racist, those people who think vegans are sustainable.
Most of vegans have never touched soil.

(01:22:23):
I have realized it very recently.
That's ironic.
And they use an expression like you for a soil, you know, it's a dirty thing.
I like my fuck, you're, you're, you're a part of it, you're a die out of it.
Like there, you know, there, there is no freaking exit for you.
Yeah.
You know, even, even even if you are like, went to Mars, soils will exist.

(01:22:49):
So I feel very personally, right about vegans or these movements that do not make sense.
You know, like Chris, there are meat eaters or they only eat meat, right?
No, you're not eating only meat because you're adding spice and salt.

(01:23:09):
That's not meat.
Stop doing it.
Just just fit in killing, killing elk and just consume it right there and see how many
days would you sustain?
Not even like probably 10 days.
You die out of the, I want to back to you that would invade your body.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I don't like extreme lifestyles, to be honest.

(01:23:30):
I don't like like Tim had various.
Yeah.
I'm not balanced, but I'm more realistic.
But people say that like your view of reality is incorrect and so for, so therefore you are
wrong.
My view of reality is correct.
So how about you come to the real world, Ganesh?

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No, sure.
I'll come to the vegan real world.
Then I'll ask them to come to my farm for probably for a month, not even for a month.
I would say, fias, like, man in labor and just ask them to so few plants, like, so whatever
the vegans eat.
And yeah, I would say they'd go to Starbucks after that.

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What's your favorite thing to grow?
At least some tips, man.
I do not have a favorite thing, but I'm very sadistic in that terms.
I don't like flowers that much.
So you know, you know, Chris, a lot of people don't understand this that flowers are like
attractive women.

(01:24:37):
They're supposed to kill you.
Oh, hold on.
We got part two of the drive by part two.
Okay, Ganesh.
Yo, we're going part two in attractive women.
Yo, did you ever get your heart broke by a very pretty girl because it's tough.

(01:24:58):
I've had it happen, dude.
I had it happen that it was not that tough for me.
Why?
What do you know about, dude?
You didn't love her?
Because I'm a very practical person.
I know, I knew somebody in my heart that, you know, that situation would come up, right?
So, you know, I've let it say if I ever say if you got fucked, sorry.
So okay, so you played your cars closer to chess, right?

(01:25:19):
You didn't really ever fall for her.
Yes.
You was like, yeah, I know what you're going to do.
No, it was not that, but it was like, I fell for her, but, you know, there was always
that possibility, right?
You know, because it's like, combinations and permutations and you know, okay, there is
a chance, right, that that could happen and you prepare yourself and I was one of those
customers.

(01:25:40):
So, coming back to flowers, flowers are supposed to attract pests.
So if you do like guarding in your house and have a lot of pests, just have a marigold plant,
right?
Next to it.
It will happen a lot of pests and it will it will take a lot of pests on itself, then you're
eligible.

(01:26:02):
So, like the is that the purpose while they're so pretty and bright and colorful is to attract
the pests?
Yes.
Because they want to not only pests, but they want to encourage pollination, right?
So that's their nature by nature, they are that.

(01:26:24):
So, in a original origin, origin, how would I say it?
Original Americans, right?
Not the Indians, but original Americans.
You should do companion planting.
So they would plant three to four different types of plants together and they would always
add a flower on it to keep pests away or if the plant dies, the flower plant dies, but

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the vegetables will be not damaged.
Are there benefits to planting several different types of plants together next year?
Yes.
Yeah.
Because imagine if you are in a battalion in an army, right?
And there is a sniper, there is an engineer, right?
There is a medic, there is a captain, there is a leader, like everybody has their own role.

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And that is created in a way that everybody works in a cohesive manner where there is
a very delicate ecosystem, right?
Like if you pissed off a medic and you got drunk, you would not probably help you.
You don't know what to say.
Right?
But that works because there is a fine cohesive bond between those people and it is the

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same with plants.
Which kind of makes sense because if you look just at nature, right?
It's land that hasn't been touched by humans.
There is not, like you will never be in the jungle and then like wow, I stumbled across
two acres of only potatoes.
It's always like, it's like, oh, here is a single potato plant and it is next to an oak tree

(01:27:55):
and oh look, it is a nice like magnolia tree or something like that.
It is very diverse and it seems to thrive there.
Yes.
I would rather say for us, I would say just look at abandoned cities.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
If you look at very well cities that were doing even in China or the United States, that matter,

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you see within like four to five months, vegetation starts to take over.
Yeah.
Because, yeah, that's it because if, so if we don't do anything, plants grow, right?
It's just natural.
Yes.
But now we kind of told that these farmers, they tell us in order to grow plants, we have

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actually spray all this shit and genetically all of it.
So those kind of contradict each other.
Yes.
Because there is a difference between a formula one car and a NASCAR car.
Because one is built to build for performance.
Another one is built to take damage.

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And I would feel very safe in a NASCAR than a formula one car.
I'm just giving out hints to.
Yeah.
We got to have you back on do with like two beers in you, three beers, drink beer.
Yeah.
I don't drink alcohol, sorry.
Oh my gosh, you're smart.
Oh, come on, Ganesh.

(01:29:19):
You got a little, do you smoke a little weed?
No, dude.
I don't have a lot of edges apart from offending people and taking a daring challenge, that's
all I do.
That's my adrenaline.
I would say.
Yo, can I ask you a question and I don't know.
There's a stereotype about people from India and I'm going to ask you if you're okay.

(01:29:40):
Are you ready?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm ready.
People from India like to a lot.
Is that true?
I mean, our current population is 1.5 billion.
So that's a something, I would say?
Case closed.

(01:30:00):
Case closed, but people don't have those markets really.
Yeah, but we are just huge in numbers.
So that has to say something, I would say.
It has to, man.
It has to, are y'all dealing with like, I know here in America a lot of people are talking

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about like declining birth rates and stuff like that.
Is that going on in there?
Yes.
Oh, it is?
Yes.
In metrosities at least.
What do you think is behind that, man?
I have no clue.
It's it has a direct correlation with education, I say.

(01:30:41):
In what way?
Because, you know, in Sanskrit, you know, Sanskrit is like our ancient language, right?
Like your Latin.
There is a pro that says, with the, with the Adhiraati veneyam, that means education provides
with humbleness and humbleness, virtue with character, right?

(01:31:03):
But our education is all about digmissaging contests, right?
I got freaking 5% more than you in my, you know, whatever examination, so I'm better than
you.
And once that happens, people start to sit in the glass towers, right?
The glass towers that that are very high and they think that they are detached from the

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society and they don't owe society anything because apparently they did everything on
themselves by themselves, right?
They are go get attitude people and that's what leads into this, until the population
or, you know, as you said, you know, the fallen birth rates.

(01:31:45):
Yeah.
So, because, yeah, people are, people are no longer family oriented.
Because they're out there trying to measure their dick.
I would say people are not even humans anymore.
Like we are not.
We're just pretending to be humans.

(01:32:06):
Don't know what the fuck they're doing, right?
You know, feminists have convinced women that it's created to work as a club than a freaking
mother.
And yeah, it is what it is.
That's so tragic.
Yo, this is such a great point.
And I haven't heard many people say what you just said, right?

(01:32:27):
I don't understand.
I have for the life of me do not understand why we elevate, let's say, uh, stability.
Oh, my gosh.
Welcome to that.
Goodness.
Goodness.
No, like, no, like certain, certain professions is what I'm saying.
Like if you're a lawyer, you're steamed, you're a smock broker, you're a steam, you're

(01:32:47):
rich, you're a steam.
And me, like, I think the coolest, probably most important profession, occupation thing
to do in the entire fucking world is to be a mom or just a parent in general.
But like you said, it's, it's, it's almost stigmatized.
It's like, oh, you're just a stay at home mom.
It's like, oh, you're a piece of shit.

(01:33:08):
It's like, what are you talking about, bro?
Like this chick is changing the fucking world.
Okay, because goddamn, every, like nobody gets raised anymore.
It's just like, hey, go out there and whatever the fuck happens happens.
Oh, no, Johnny, you have a drug problem.
Oh, no, Johnny blew his fucking brains out at 19 because his mom was over there trying to

(01:33:31):
get a promotion, fucking the boss.
And she's like, whoa, like to me, like, hey, let's, like, let's make stay at home mom specifically.
Really fucking cool.
Like this is a really fucking cool thing.
It's like, oh, you're stay at home mom.
Like, oh, my gosh, like that's cool.
But it's like, it's so stigmatized, like the culture thing you were talking about.

(01:33:52):
It's like in the culture now.
Stay at home mom.
You're a piece of shit.
What the fuck?
Yes, because if you're a stay at home mom, either you are probably way too religious or
uneducated.
That's the view that people have.
And I hate it.
It is.
I don't know whether you're religious or not because atheists can't stand for shit.

(01:34:14):
They're not even convinced that they don't like gods.
Like atheists are that fucking dumb, I would say.
I don't care whether you believe in a religion, but you have to believe in a mission in your
life.
Like, you are here to do some shit, not to just have freaking unlimited sex on fuck off.
You know, a lot of animals do that.

(01:34:35):
You know, if you appear in sacrifice literally half of their life to make you a good human,
I hope you have some ethical responsibility to pay that back to the society because I'm
pretty sure you know, just two people do not grow you.
I would say, you know, that only two people do not take care of you.

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It took a whole freaking society, right?
It took like probably like 25 to 25 teachers.
Probably around 100 plus other, you know, characters in your life.
It took a family.
And I'm really sorry for those people who have or had an abusive relationship with their
elders or parents, but I would say for the majority of people, it took literally a society

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to help them grow as a person.
And all of a sudden, once they grow, they feel like I don't do anybody anything because
nobody did anything to me because they're looking at it.
I from a materialistic point of view.
It's a Christy dot, give me $100.
So fuck him.
But in a home, they did not see, okay, Chris helped me cross a road.
You know, he kept me safe in dangerous times and that's more than money.

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But since we are in a capitalist society, we feel like, okay, if Chris did not give me
money, fuck him, you know, that's the sad part of it.
How do you kind of change those, those currents, right?
Because that material is deep.
It's fucking deep, man.
Like if you, let's say you're God, right?
You're not just a regular guy.

(01:36:09):
But let's just say for a day, you're a God of the earth.
You could change anything.
Yeah.
How would you address that?
I would get rid of humans, first of all.
You are wild boi.
And that's you wild, man.
Okay, so step one, give it a hug, man.
Okay.
And we step one.

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No, because if you look at it, if you look at it from a burger, just perspective, humans
are pests, you know, that, right?
Like humans are pests.
We fuck up everything that we come across.
Like the locus that destroys food, you know, we just saw everything.
Yeah, first I would just eliminate humans and just let it be.

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And then everything would just fix itself.
Yes.
But if you want to talk it, talk from a very common man perspective, it has to start from
your own family.
Like you have to teach everybody around you to be more humble and to be more respective
of their life because people don't respect their life at all.

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And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I very much enjoyed when you were talking about bullying, right?
Because in India, your, your parent could whoop your ass on the smallest thing.
And I see Americans, oh my God, that's so bad.
Well, fuck you.
Because if I was not spank, I would not be this good today.

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I know that.
I don't see where that shit came from.
Like that's, I, listen, man, that shit, because that, like I'm a man, you're a man.
I'm a stubborn motherfucker.
Oh, Chris, I'm going to take your video game.
I don't give a shit.
I'm going to a friend's house to play the video game.
Oh, Chris, you can't, you can't go outside.

(01:37:55):
I'll stay inside and jack off all day.
I'm 14 years old.
But as soon as they, they put that belt to my butt, I stopped.
That's it, then.
Okay.
And I make it straight.
Yeah, because people have forgotten that humans are also animals.
And you look at the puppy, right?

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Like, you know, there is a mother dog.
And if the puppy acts up, she wax, you know, like the shit out of that puppy right there.
And in certain, sad situation, you know, they even eliminate their puppies if they feel
okay, this is going to be a very challenging situation for my family.
And I'm not saying we need to do that.
But what I'm saying is we need to be natural and it's very natural for any species young

(01:38:40):
adult to be challenging.
You look at lions, right?
Lion cups as soon as they reach a certain age where they start growing mean they challenge
the, you know, the mother or the, you know, the leader of the group.
And they're just picking and making sure that you are qualified enough to lead me because

(01:39:02):
their life is constant health, right?
You know, there is a dog expert, right?
His name is Cesar Milan.
I think people have heard of him.
He might, they might have.
And he says something beautiful that humans is the humans are the only species that follow
unfit leaders.
And that is so true.
We always lead unfit leaders because we are so fucking far away from the, you know, our

(01:39:26):
instincts that a person could walk going to 10 foot away from you and he would never know
because you are just so desensitized.
Yeah, I think it sucks too because it seems like things are moving like from a doggy dog
world like you eat, you eat what you earn, you have what's coming to you.

(01:39:51):
And guess what?
If, if, if you suck, you're going to live a shit life, you're going to die.
It's just like, like, if you're a deer and you drink out the wrong watering hole, it's
not your, you're done.
Yeah.
You're done.
You're done.
Yeah.
It seems like we're kind of moving from like that to, hey, it's be fair to everybody.
Hey, I know that this guy, like I know this guy does absolutely nothing.

(01:40:15):
He dropped out of school.
He jacks off all day.
He mooches on the system and everything like that.
And he's an asshole to everyone.
But you know what?
We still have to be nice to him.
And I think maybe like that, that type of attitude is leading towards more like what you
said.
I think you said it beautifully.
Like we're almost not even human anymore.
We're not animals.

(01:40:36):
We're so weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I feel like people have come to a stage where they're questioning everything.
Yeah.
And when people start questioning too much, authorities don't like it.
And people get back in the process, right?

(01:40:57):
Like the Boeing guy, you know, the whistleblower.
Yeah.
So if I understand the argument that people say, you know, we're not animals, you know, we
are greater than animals.
So we have to be fair.
And then my question is fair to what extent?
But that whole argument is based on our intelligence.

(01:41:19):
And right?
We are the smartest fuckers.
Apparently on the planet.
What do you plan it?
Well, I don't think so.
Well, maybe maybe if we could like talk to all things, you should then they would say, hey,
you're doing math wrong.
Hey, the planet is like, I don't know.
But and so I think that's where we have this like air superiority.
But then wouldn't you say that, like, for example, that elephants are not animals because

(01:41:42):
there's so much smarter than ants?
Exactly.
That's my point.
Like, yeah, that's really true.
Because then if you put if you put up a fair, fair system, then you start class, ring animals.
And a lot of people train their dogs to talk, right?
You know, with the little buttons, let the dog.
So what now do you let him vote?

(01:42:03):
Like now is that a valuable member of society?
I don't know.
I have a dog.
But I don't think I have a Labrador.
Labrador Retriever.
This is name.
Her name is Maggie.
It's a very Western name.
I know.
Yeah, but I would not say my dog is a citizen because she needs protection from me.

(01:42:28):
I understand.
You know, I am the provider and the protector of the dog.
You know, look at John Wick.
Right.
That's movie.
So, yeah, when you start to play fair, the game of fairness, you lose a lot.
You tend to lose a lot because there is only so much to go around.

(01:42:50):
Because if you say, okay, every human needs food, right?
You say, okay, every human needs food, food everyday, right?
Then the far and you say that is compulsory, right?
Like that's a, that's like free in a government will provide you with that.
A far will say, fuck you.
I'm not growing anything because he's not getting competitive rates and he has to feed

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his family at the end of the day.
And because he works harder than a person in the city, he needs to eat more.
He needs to be fitter, right?
So if, if farmers say, fuck you, do if you study history, MPs have collapsed because farmers
were in a mutiny, you know, they just revolted.

(01:43:35):
And you write a, you look at you, right?
Like they try to bring a lot of emission and carbon rules to agriculture, especially in
Poland and Polish farmers said, fuck you in a very royal way.
For those who don't know, they spread the value or the parliament on the parliament building.

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And the, and yeah, and no amount of power and no amount of dictatorship can repair that.
Yeah, it's broken.
And whenever you break the trust, it's like you can't do that.
It almost takes another generation.
Yeah, because if you look at Russia, right?

(01:44:19):
The Russians cannot own land, you know, not now, but you know, in World War II.
And a lot of, I don't know what to call them, socialists claim that's a very good agriculture
model that we have no one owns land.
They fail to recognize the fact that 45% of food in World War II for Russia came from home

(01:44:43):
gardens, not from agriculture lands.
So it was, it was just me and you going food.
And that's how Russia literally got through World War II because stay home mothers and, you
know, young kids realized, okay, my army, my uncle, my father needs food, right?

(01:45:04):
In the frontline, I need to grow.
And that's how they survive through the socialism.
And if you, if you do not wait people by taking away their land, yeah, people will pull up
with their Finchisters or freaking Uzi's whatever they have, right?
Because you cannot take people's land.
That's like the, the bare basic thing, right?

(01:45:25):
Is is you all right?
Yeah, this concept has been around for hundreds, hundreds of thousands of years, right?
Like, yeah.
Hundreds of technology has it, but, yeah, you can't fuck with people's land.
I just hope that this generation of people are, we haven't lost those skills that if we
wanted to, we had to, we could, you know, sustain World War III or whatever, by growing home

(01:45:50):
gardens or anything like that.
How do you make a home garden like, how do you make it to where that it cannot be destroyed
by nuclear bomb?
Because I think that's what we're going to need for the World War III, right?
That's a very advanced question, I would say, because you need certain things.

(01:46:12):
It's possible, but you need certain things.
You need electricity.
And in the, in, in times of radiation, it's really easy to generate electricity from radiation.
I hope people figure that out.
You need lights.
That's all like you could do aquaponic farming.

(01:46:34):
Yeah, soil is farming just based on water and it takes 80% less water to grow food in water
than soil because it's not lost to moisture.
So you could still save a lot of water, but still grow food.
Nutricious food very fast.
It grows around 40% faster than you do aquaponic farming.

(01:46:56):
And you could do that in an underground bunker, not a problem or even in your basement in the
house without lights, right?
Yeah, you could probably cool some shit off, you know?
You'll have you thought?
Yes.
A fuck yeah.
Oh, that, that is all I have.

(01:47:17):
I really appreciate you coming on this show.
Thank you.
Yeah, every time I do one of these, I'm just like, like, I'm sitting there thinking and I'm like,
okay, I'm talking to a person across the earth real time.
Yeah.
I see your face and now like I made a friend across the earth.
Yes.
I really appreciate you coming here.
Yeah.

(01:47:38):
Working, can people find you do you have like social media or stuff?
Yeah, I'm good on social media if you can just search for my name or geniusly decisive is
just a stupid thing.
But if you want to learn more about food and plants, you can look up to Ruvana, T-A-R-U-V-A-N-A.com.
Very, you know, I'm just giving a wish for free just so that people start growing their

(01:48:02):
own source of nutrition, not food because we need more nutrition than food because you
could eat horse food and live, but you could not live without nutrition.
That's beautiful man.
You are so fucking smart dude.
Thank you so much for coming on man.
I hope you have a great day.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much.
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