Dr Philip Smith, Digital and Education Editor of Gut and Honorary Consultant Gastroenterologist at the Royal Liverpool Hospital, Liverpool, UK interviews Professor Julia Mayerle and Dr Simon Sirtl from the Department of Medicine II, LMU University Hospital, Munich, Germany, on the paper "Consensus definition of sludge and microlithiasis as a possible cause of pancreatitis" published in paper copy in Gut in October 2023 and available online: https://gut.bmj.com/content/72/10/1919
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