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.9999999998It is more likely something about them.
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Perhaps something they have not worked through, perhaps it is a reflection on their life and their experiences than it is about you.
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So please always remember that.
When they say things like this to us, if anything, this was truly a learning experience for me personally, at least.
So reframe it, think about it that way.
And the beauty of it is, and again, you guys, this is the essence of growing and grief.
It changes you.
You are simply not the same person that you once were.
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And it shifts your perspective.
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This is the life with grief podcast.
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The podcast that talks about and normalizes the complexities of grief life after loss and all this entails and so much more.
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I want you to think of this podcast as a safe space, where I'm a friendly face, and we're just journeying through this together to figure out how to live life with our grief in tow.
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I'm your host, Tara Acardo.
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I'm a grief and transformational life coach, and I'm here to serve you.
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Guidance, support, tangible coping tools, inspiration, and some laughs along the way to help you cultivate a more meaningful, intentional, and beautiful life.
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But grieving or not, we're getting into countless topics here on the podcast from coping with loss to self-development and so much more.
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I'm so grateful.
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You're here.
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Let's dive right in.
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hello, and welcome back to the life with grief podcast.
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I'm your host, Tara Cardo and today's topic.
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I have actually wanted to tackle on here for a while.
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I have.
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Posted things about this here and there on social media, but I really wanted to have a dedicated episode.
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To cover this because there are so many.
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Complexities to this and things to say about it.
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And I really just wanted to have a space here where we can have a very open and honest and.
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Raw conversation about it.
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And also to be able to give you some tools and a little bit of guidance on how to cope with this, if this comes up in your grief, which it inevitably will at some point along the line.
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So, what am I talking about here? We are digging into how to cope with insensitive comments.
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in our grief as we are grieving.
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And as we are trying so desperately to navigate this journey of life after loss and everything it entails and.
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Honestly, like as if grief isn't difficult enough.
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Insensitive and ignorant and unnecessary comments are sadly inevitable.
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In the grieving process.
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And I have definitely had my fair share of things said to me, I know many grievers out there that have people.
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I have coached people in my membership, people.
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Just spoken with on social media that we're like, oh my gosh, I can totally empathize with what happened to you here.
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This is what someone said to me.
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And it's baffling sometimes because we're sometimes left wondering, Do you like, do you feel like you're helping me like.
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What are these comments? Adding to the conversation.
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How is this adding value to my life? How was this? Helping me through a painful and difficult time.
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And you know what you guys, I don't have the answer to that, right.
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Because it is so situational.
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It depends so much on who is saying it and in what context it's coming from and all of the things, but today I really just want to have a high level conversation about it.
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I am so sure that so many of you will be able.
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To empathize with a lot of the things that I'm saying here, or perhaps you've had things like this said to you, if you have let's talk about it, please let me know.
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Hit me up on Instagram.
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Like you are welcome to send me an email, like.
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I want to talk about this and I really just want to support you because.
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We're going to talk about, you know, what insensitive comments can do to us in our grief, but really, it just makes the process that much more difficult and it can really hinder our growth.
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So we're going to get into all of that, but.
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To kick this episode off, I'm going to approach it a little differently.
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I'm gonna share something a little spicy.
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But that being said, I will not be sharing this individual's name.
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Of course, frankly, I don't think they even listened to this podcast.
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They might not even know that I have a podcast.
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Uh, but they are very aware of losses become gains.
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They are aware of the work that I do.
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And all I will say is they worked with my mom.
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At some point in her career and they sent me this series of messages.
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Not actually that long ago.
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And.
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When I tell you.
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That it sent me spiraling a little bit.
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That is an understatement.
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I.
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Recovered.
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It wasn't like it's set me back in my grief per se.
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It really just made me feel profoundly misunderstood.
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Very judged.
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And really just very sad, but I had a very visceral reaction.
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To these messages and.
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So I honestly just wanted to share these.
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And again, just in this spirit of being very open and very vulnerable, very, just like I'm here sharing my story.
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I really feel like this is just a perfect example of what we're talking about today.
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So for those who are watching this on the video version of you are seeing I'm grabbing my phone right now.
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So I can read these messages verbatim because summarizing them simply does not do them justice.
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So.
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So here we go.
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This individual said.
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I was a friend of your mother, not a close friend for 10 years.
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I'm not sure that your mother would approve what you are doing right now.
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Making grief into a business.
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We all have lost loved ones during the years.
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To go on the internet to get some kind of degree.
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Doesn't make it for me.
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I loved your mother.
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She passed away.
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That's it.
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Very sad about that.
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We all have to move on.
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Life is precious.
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I might delete you just because you bring up so much sadness.
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Let it go for heaven sakes.
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Your parents are gone.
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Live for your newborn and your husband.
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Just let it go.
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With many, many, many owes sort of like from frozen, let it go kind of thing.
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I'm not done.
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She continued to say.
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My father passed away and also my mother in one year.
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What you are bringing out is not good.
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Stop talking about it.
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You are not a certified professional.
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I am fine right now.
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I lost my father and my mother and my brother.
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Don't tell me what pain is all about.
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I really know what it is.
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Time to let it go.
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You have to do the same thing.
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You are not the only one to lose someone.
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So.
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Even just saying that aloud.
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Is I actually, I'll be honest with you.
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I only looked at this one other time since I received these messages.
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So reading them aloud like that is.
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It's a bit triggering, to be honest.
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I have a lot of things to say about this.
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It's.
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It's hard to process a message like this.
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Because this woman, she even admitted it.
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Herself was not a close friend of my mom.
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I had a little background on, on this woman.
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Personally, I had really not had contact with her.
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By the way, these are all over Facebook messenger.
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So.
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Do without what you will.
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We were Facebook friends.
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Just to break this down a little bit.
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You know, it's tough for me because my, my first thought was where does she get off saying these things to me? I don't.
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I really did not know this woman.
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I do not know her well enough.
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At all.
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For her to make these comments or.
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For her too.
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Reach out and say things like this to me.
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But frankly, even if we do know somebody.
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Well enough, this approach and this delivery.
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Was frankly just so gross to me.
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I really don't have a better way of wording.
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Very out of line was my first thought.
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I was actually really shocked.
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I got these messages, my husband and I had just seen a movie, like in a movie theater, we had just come out.
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I turned my phone back on, uh, from like airplane mode or whatever.
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And I got these and I, it was so out of left field that.
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It caught me really by surprise.
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The first thing here that she's saying, you know, making grief into a business.
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Less than you guys.
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If you're here listening to this podcast or you see some of the things I post on social media.
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Yes, I.
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I guess in a way am trying to create something from this, because I feel as though it is my calling.
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I know that sounds funny, but I've said this before.
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I don't think I ever would have explored.
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The grief space, working in grief with fellow grievers, helping people.
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Just like you.
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Through life after loss.
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If I had not lost my parents, right.
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Most, most grief coaches, I would imagine.
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Don't do that because you really have to, to some degree, whatever our losses are, go through it, to understand it.
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And then to take it a step further.
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And to care.
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Enough to help people.
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Through it, you know? So.
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More than anything.
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It just made me really sad because I was like, man, you are just missing.
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The point.
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You think I'm capitalizing on my parents' deaths.
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Listen, if people feel that way, I guess I can't help that, but that is just so.
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Painful to me.
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Because that could not be further from the truth.
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It is because my parents died that I realized, Hey, I can help others.
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I want to help others.
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I feel called to help others.
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And it's just funny because she seems to think that I'm just like rolling in all this money over here from coach is not the case.
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You guys.
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Okay.
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In fact so much of what I do.
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Is out of love.
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Um, it's not, you know, it's not that big of a thing.
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Like.
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Listen, I'm trying to grow here.
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I would love for this to become something, everything that I'm doing, all facets of losses become gains, but.
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Yeah.
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I'm um, Not trying to capitalize on anything here.
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For the record.
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And I would.
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Definitely venture to say that most, if not all grief coaches aren't either, because let me tell you something.
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It is.
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Really heavy.
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And it is.
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It's a lot to sit with people in their grief.
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And to show up and be that person for someone.
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I am proud to do that.
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I am honored to do that.
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So again, that just makes it even sadder that someone is questioning that.
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Or, or the why behind it? Of what I'm doing.
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Yeah, there's that? Oh, also mentioning that, you know, going on the internet to get some kind of degree, doesn't make it for me.
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That's fine.
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Like, listen, I am not a therapist.
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If anybody here knows me at all, no, I am not a therapist.
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I have not been to school.
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To be a counselor.
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Or therapist, trust me, I've thought about it.
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I am still thinking about it, but I've also never claimed that, you know, but I did go through education and courses and many things to become a grief coach and a transformational life coach.
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I am certified in those things and.
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She, she doesn't have to like it.
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She doesn't have to believe me.
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But, um, I did those things to further educate myself because you know, life of hard knocks will certainly teach you some things, but in order for me to help other people cope and through their grief, I want to always be as well-informed and well-educated as I can possibly be.
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So.
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The certifications come in handy with that.
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Right.
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So, and by the way, I'm not gonna dissect every aspect of this message.
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This episode is not about.
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Me and this specific message, but I just found these particular messages so interesting because there were so many things that were said that were perfect examples of insensitive comments that we might get on a one-off basis, but they all just happened to be thrown at me.
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Very quickly.
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So.
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Couple more quick points here.
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I mean, number one.
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Mentioning that she might delete me because I bring up so much sadness, number one, and I hope everyone is aware of this with anything that I post or.
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On this podcast here, if anything that we ever talk about is bringing up something negative for you.
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And I mean, in a way that is truly hurtful, like you are not ready to hear it yet.
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Please like you can unfollow me.
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You can delete me.
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You can block me and come back.
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Or if you're listening to an episode, we can.
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Pause and come back to it.
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When we, when we are ready.
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That is the nature of grief.
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It is sad.
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Loss is sad.
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And I, you know, whatever it was that she was responding to, I actually still have no idea what it was that she is responding to here.
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I don't know if it was a specific post or it was multiple or whatever.
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But yeah, like, go ahead and delete me.
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That's okay.
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I'm not everyone's cup of tea.
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I'm not trying to be.
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But really more so than that was the next comment of saying, let it go for heaven sakes.
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And you know, saying that to me basically a couple of times, I mean.
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That is the premise of this podcast and losses become gains in everything that I do.
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There is no letting it go.
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And in fact, in, you know, one of the other messages.
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She mentioned, you know, it's time to move on.
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What, what is moving on really? Please don't ever tell me to move on and I will never tell you to move on.
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This idea of telling someone to move on.
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When they have lost something or someone so great and so important to them.
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Is probably one of the just saddest and honestly, most insulting things that we could be told.
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As someone who is grieving.
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And I've talked about this a little bit before, but you know, there is a subtle difference between this idea of moving on and moving forward.
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And I think moving forward is just a.
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A more gentle, realistic.
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Way in which we can live our life.
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With our loss.
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And have that be a part of our story.
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Not something that defines us.
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And certainly not something that we forget.
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But it just becomes a part of who we are as we continue to grow and evolve and transform.
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Within our life after we have been through something devastating, right.
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Something potentially traumatic.
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So.
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You know, that really bummed me out.
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Her, her saying that and.
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The other thing.
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Two.
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That I want to address it.
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This is what she said to me specifically, but I have heard this in many cases, um, with some other grievers I've spoken to here, she tells me to live for your newborn and your husband and mind you, my daughter wasn't born yet.
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It's just interesting because this is such a perfect example of how.
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Little, this woman actually knows me.
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Because.
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I have learned to live for myself, certainly, which we all do when we are going through grief.
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We.
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Do have to come back to our why.
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And who we are.
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As a soul.
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Here on this planet, just trying to figure it all out.
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But absolutely.
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We have people, family, friends, colleagues, whoever that we, we might live forward to.
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And I do live for my husband and my daughter.
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They, they are my family.
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I mean, I have extended family of course, but like they're my little family unit now.
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They're all I have.
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So.
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I'm just sending so much love to anyone here, listening, who has had something like this.
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I said to them because.
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You know, to have someone tell you to let it go, let whoever it was that we've lost.
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Go.
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Really just as such a disservice to their life.
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And to their memory and how we want to carry them with us still.
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Even though they're gone.
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And that's exactly what I personally, at least I'm trying to do.
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And I have no doubt everyone here listening.
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You were probably trying to do that in the exact same way.
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And maybe it's a little confusing and you don't know how to figure that out right now, but guess what? That's what we're doing here together.
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Right? It's all just moment by moment.
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Day by day.
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So.
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Yeah, there's a lot about this that I could unpack.
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I think just the last thing I was going to say here.
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Uh, it was from her, her last message when she said, you know, don't tell me what pain is about.
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I really know what it is, time to let it go.
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You have to do the same thing.
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You're not the only one to lose someone.
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I mean, listen.
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We all.
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We'll decide when we will or will not let something go.
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This is not something we can impose on anyone.
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Anyone.
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And this was the part of her messages that I just felt that.
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Frankly disrespected by because.
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You know, she implied that I don't know what pain is about.
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That's, that's how I interpreted it.
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At least, you know, almost because she lost a mother, father and a brother and you know, or possibly so many more people than I did.
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Which by the way again, without giving away too much about who exactly this is, all I'm going to say is she's from an older generation.
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And I will also mention she is.
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Was born into a different country.
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She is of a different culture than here in America.
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And.
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You know, who knows that could have something to do with this as well? Um, not that.
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She's in the wrong or whatever country she's from.
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Is incorrect.
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It's just different.
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In terms of how grief is recognized and coped with.
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I think those cultural differences are very, very important.
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To mention.
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And again, it's tricky in this episode because I don't want to give too much away about the identity of this individual, but, um, You know, I just think that's important to mention as well.
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I've definitely talked about that on the podcast here before.
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Especially in terms of unmet expectation.
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So.
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For example, we might expect someone to say or not to say something based on how we've been raised or how we have been conditioned to.
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Recognize ending knowledge and cope with grief versus not.
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So, you know, her and I were just on very, very different wavelengths.
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Um, But, you know what.
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Uh, yeah, I, I don't, I don't have to let it go.
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Thank you very much, but I don't.
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That's, this is just a perfect example of, we cannot tell anyone else how to grieve.
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And, you know, At the very last thing she said, you're not the only one to lose someone.
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She's absolutely right.
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I'm not sadly.
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I'm not.
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And that my friends is.
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The perfect point to all of this, and this is exactly why.
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I am doing what I'm doing because there are so many people out here.
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Who have lost people and they do not have the right support or they have people just like this, telling them to move on, to get over it.
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That it's been long enough that what you're doing is toxic.
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Whatever.
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The sentiment is.
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Messages like this.
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Are the reason that I do what I do.
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So I just wanted to share that.
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I'll be very honest.
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I have more thoughts and feelings.
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About all of that.
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There's more about that, that I could dissect, especially as a coach, especially as sort of a, I never want to call myself a grief expert, I guess they'll just say as a.
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Grief educator as a grief guide, as someone who, who helps people through this.
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But.
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Let's break down some of the types of insensitive comments.
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So we're moving away from these messages now.
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But of course, some of these that I'm about to list were, were mentioned in here.
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So for example, you should be doing X, Y, Z should be letting it go.
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You should be better by now, right? Whatever it is under the sun that people say that we should or shouldn't be doing.
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You need to let it go.
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So, and so would be disappointed in you basically speaking on behalf of a person who has died.
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I actually forgot to mention this.
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This woman has messaged me before.
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This was actually not the first message I got from her.
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Saying something to this effect, but her previous messages, months prior were more tame.
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I'll put it that way.
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Uh, but as you heard in this message, and as she said more clearly in her previous messages, to me, you know, your mom and dad would be disappointed in you.
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Your mom would be disappointed in what you're doing right now.
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I, and I.
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I was like, I cannot believe you have the nerve to say that to me.
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As someone who really was not that close with my mom.
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Who, who didn't know my mom well enough to be able to say that, how do you know, how do you know that my mom would be sad and disappointed about what I'm doing? Who knows she could be.
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Beaming the proudest she has ever been.
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In me because I'm doing what I'm doing now.
378
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Trying to, to make something and do something.
379
00:24:31,741.051401 --> 00:24:35,161.051401
With what I have been through and with their legacy and all the things.
380
00:24:35,161.051401 --> 00:24:35,701.051401
And so.
381
00:24:36,961.051401 --> 00:24:37,351.051401
Yeah.
382
00:24:37,411.051401 --> 00:24:39,181.051401
Speaking on behalf of a dead person.
383
00:24:39,991.051401 --> 00:24:40,381.051401
Huge.
384
00:24:40,411.051401 --> 00:24:41,761.051401
No-no not about that.
385
00:24:43,651.051401 --> 00:24:51,151.051401
Another question or thing we might have said to us, you know, why are you dueling on it? Or accusing us of dwelling on it for longer than we should.
386
00:24:52,231.051401 --> 00:24:54,121.051401
Someone saying, get over it by now.
387
00:24:55,261.051401 --> 00:24:56,791.051401
You should be moved on.
388
00:24:56,971.051401 --> 00:25:07,111.051401
Why aren't you moved on? Do you think this is really healthy to talk about this much? Which, by the way I say, uh, yeah, it is.
389
00:25:08,41.051401 --> 00:25:17,161.051401
Can we normalize grief, please? Can we talk about grief more? It is something that we all will go through.
390
00:25:19,21.051401 --> 00:25:23,911.051401
And it is so sad that it is actually not talked about more.
391
00:25:25,711.051401 --> 00:25:32,611.051401
And so, you know, those are just a handful of the kinds of insensitive comments that we might see.
392
00:25:33,271.051401 --> 00:25:39,391.051401
Or here, you know, fill in the blank, whatever you have dealt with or whatever you will deal with.
393
00:25:40,201.051401 --> 00:25:42,91.051401
Really what I want to come back.
394
00:25:42,511.051401 --> 00:25:49,631.051401
And do hear a little bit and hone in on is, why this can hurt and why it's detrimental to our healing journey.
395
00:25:50,201.051401 --> 00:25:54,551.051401
And finally to close out this episode, what we can do about it, how we can cope.
396
00:25:54,641.051401 --> 00:25:54,971.051401
Right.
397
00:25:55,271.051401 --> 00:25:55,751.051401
So.
398
00:25:57,51.051401 --> 00:25:58,611.051401
There are a few reasons here.
399
00:25:59,391.051401 --> 00:26:02,661.051401
Number one, it can come from strangers for sure.
400
00:26:02,661.051401 --> 00:26:07,581.051401
And that can feel really out of left field, sort of like how I felt with this woman, even though I kind of knew her.
401
00:26:08,61.051401 --> 00:26:10,611.051401
She ultimately to me is sort of a stranger.
402
00:26:10,611.051401 --> 00:26:12,51.051401
So that was very strange.
403
00:26:13,11.051401 --> 00:26:16,671.051401
But I will also say a surprising amount of the time.
404
00:26:17,31.051401 --> 00:26:26,181.051401
Comments like this will come from people that we actually know, or that we are at least acquaintances with because somehow they feel that they.
405
00:26:26,901.051401 --> 00:26:30,951.051401
Have the right to impose these thoughts and opinions and things on us.
406
00:26:32,91.051401 --> 00:26:33,501.051401
When that is just simply not the case.
407
00:26:34,491.051401 --> 00:26:36,591.051401
Grief is very individual.
408
00:26:36,651.051401 --> 00:26:37,761.051401
It is very unique.
409
00:26:37,791.051401 --> 00:26:40,821.051401
It is very sacred to each and every one of us.
410
00:26:40,881.051401 --> 00:26:46,11.051401
And really all I can say about that is that that needs to be respected.
411
00:26:46,641.051401 --> 00:26:47,121.051401
So.
412
00:26:48,321.051401 --> 00:26:55,41.051401
Another reason this can be really hurtful and very detrimental to us is there might be some imposing views that don't align with ours.
413
00:26:55,131.051401 --> 00:26:55,761.051401
I E.
414
00:26:56,241.051401 --> 00:26:56,601.051401
Everything.
415
00:26:56,601.051401 --> 00:26:57,381.051401
I just went through.
416
00:26:57,981.051401 --> 00:27:01,911.051401
Which can be frustrating, but it can also make us second guess ourselves.
417
00:27:02,811.051401 --> 00:27:05,241.051401
No, I will just speak on behalf of myself for a moment.
418
00:27:05,301.051401 --> 00:27:07,941.051401
I am in a place in my life and within my grief.
419
00:27:07,971.051401 --> 00:27:09,891.051401
And certainly within the grief work that I do.
420
00:27:10,491.051401 --> 00:27:13,41.051401
That while that certainly got to me.
421
00:27:13,341.051401 --> 00:27:14,691.051401
For a hot minute.
422
00:27:15,261.051401 --> 00:27:17,571.051401
It did not sort of set me back.
423
00:27:17,601.051401 --> 00:27:18,621.051401
It did not at all.
424
00:27:18,621.051401 --> 00:27:20,1.051401
Make me second guess.
425
00:27:20,991.051401 --> 00:27:21,771.051401
My life.
426
00:27:22,191.051401 --> 00:27:25,461.051401
What I'm doing, how I'm handling things, how I'm navigating it.
427
00:27:26,1.051401 --> 00:27:28,131.051401
I was like, See ya.
428
00:27:28,381.051401 --> 00:27:30,571.051401
And by the way, just sort of a sidebar.
429
00:27:30,631.051401 --> 00:27:35,941.051401
If anyone's wondering what came of this conversation, I probably should have wrapped that up in case anybody was curious.
430
00:27:37,91.051401 --> 00:27:39,821.051401
I essentially just responded back.
431
00:27:40,451.051401 --> 00:27:45,101.051401
And said, you know, it, it makes me very sad.
432
00:27:45,671.051401 --> 00:27:52,421.051401
That you do not see the value in what I am trying to bring people and.
433
00:27:53,381.051401 --> 00:27:55,991.051401
I feel frankly, that you have missed the point.
434
00:27:56,441.051401 --> 00:27:57,911.051401
Of everything that I do.
435
00:27:58,751.051401 --> 00:28:05,111.051401
I feel you've really come at me at a very accusatory and judgemental way.
436
00:28:06,581.051401 --> 00:28:07,901.051401
I have to be honest.
437
00:28:07,901.051401 --> 00:28:09,551.051401
I really don't appreciate that.
438
00:28:09,581.051401 --> 00:28:12,71.051401
I don't feel you know me well enough.
439
00:28:13,361.051401 --> 00:28:16,481.051401
To have that be warranted.
440
00:28:17,441.051401 --> 00:28:19,121.051401
And finally.
441
00:28:20,231.051401 --> 00:28:23,741.051401
I would've loved if you would have approached me.
442
00:28:24,581.051401 --> 00:28:27,101.051401
From a place of curiosity and love.
443
00:28:27,701.051401 --> 00:28:29,861.051401
Versus accusations.
444
00:28:30,461.051401 --> 00:28:31,241.051401
And judgment.
445
00:28:32,921.051401 --> 00:28:34,871.051401
And that is really all we can do.
446
00:28:35,291.051401 --> 00:28:35,801.051401
Right.
447
00:28:36,41.051401 --> 00:28:40,841.051401
Like all we can do in life, really in any situation, grief or not.
448
00:28:41,201.051401 --> 00:28:41,921.051401
Is com.
449
00:28:42,341.051401 --> 00:28:45,461.051401
At people and at things from a place.
450
00:28:46,211.051401 --> 00:28:49,811.051401
Of love and curiosity and understanding.
451
00:28:50,351.051401 --> 00:28:53,261.051401
If she had approached that.
452
00:28:53,861.051401 --> 00:28:55,241.051401
So much differently.
453
00:28:56,171.051401 --> 00:28:57,941.051401
And actually asked me.
454
00:28:59,21.051401 --> 00:29:01,181.051401
Hey, I'm really curious about what you do.
455
00:29:01,181.051401 --> 00:29:03,401.051401
Can you elaborate on that? I'm a little confused.
456
00:29:03,401.051401 --> 00:29:08,141.051401
What is a grief coach? Why were you cold to do.
457
00:29:08,681.051401 --> 00:29:13,391.051401
This work specifically, and just maybe ask me some questions.
458
00:29:13,601.051401 --> 00:29:15,191.051401
Maybe got to know me a little bit.
459
00:29:16,31.051401 --> 00:29:23,471.051401
Before jumping down my throat like that, that could have been a very different conversation and a much more beautiful and productive one.
460
00:29:24,101.051401 --> 00:29:27,161.051401
Unfortunately, that was just not where that was going.
461
00:29:27,161.051401 --> 00:29:28,961.051401
It was not going to go in that direction.
462
00:29:29,861.051401 --> 00:29:32,441.051401
Ultimately, I just said, please don't ever contact me.
463
00:29:33,371.051401 --> 00:29:34,571.051401
I'll be really honest with you guys.
464
00:29:35,81.051401 --> 00:29:36,341.051401
I shut that down.
465
00:29:36,371.051401 --> 00:29:40,661.051401
I was like, Nope, do not need this negativity in my life.
466
00:29:40,721.051401 --> 00:29:43,991.051401
I will not have people like this.
467
00:29:43,991.051401 --> 00:29:45,821.051401
Who frankly, like I said, don't know me.
468
00:29:45,821.051401 --> 00:29:49,841.051401
Well, And also feel that they can speak to me in this way.
469
00:29:50,251.051401 --> 00:29:50,891.051401
in my life.
470
00:29:51,371.051401 --> 00:29:52,541.051401
It is the last thing I need.
471
00:29:52,571.051401 --> 00:29:53,771.051401
And I'll be honest with you.
472
00:29:54,41.051401 --> 00:29:55,541.051401
Prior to my parents' deaths.
473
00:29:55,571.051401 --> 00:29:58,871.051401
I don't know that I would've stood up to someone in that way.
474
00:29:59,471.051401 --> 00:30:04,151.051401
And we're going to talk about boundaries here in a little bit, but that was a very hard and fast boundary.
475
00:30:04,871.051401 --> 00:30:06,881.051401
That I set real quick.
476
00:30:07,241.051401 --> 00:30:14,681.051401
So, yeah, I shut that down and it's funny too, because how she was mentioning, you know, I might delete you.
477
00:30:15,701.051401 --> 00:30:17,651.051401
Um, I'm going to go ahead and take care of that.
478
00:30:17,711.051401 --> 00:30:18,71.051401
And.
479
00:30:19,61.051401 --> 00:30:20,141.051401
And I, I blocked her.
480
00:30:21,371.051401 --> 00:30:22,121.051401
I'll be very honest.
481
00:30:22,361.051401 --> 00:30:23,51.051401
I just blocked her.
482
00:30:23,51.051401 --> 00:30:28,931.051401
I said my fees and I was like, I literally said, I wish you well, because listen, I'm not going to stoop to her level.
483
00:30:28,931.051401 --> 00:30:31,631.051401
I was like, I want to be the bigger person here.
484
00:30:31,661.051401 --> 00:30:32,471.051401
I really do.
485
00:30:32,621.051401 --> 00:30:33,41.051401
But.
486
00:30:34,721.051401 --> 00:30:38,261.051401
I'm just going to, I'm just going to call it what it is like you, she royally pissed me off.
487
00:30:38,261.051401 --> 00:30:42,341.051401
So I was like, Nope, I'm going to go ahead and just like, say my piece.
488
00:30:42,731.051401 --> 00:30:44,951.051401
Say it as nicely as I can.
489
00:30:45,581.051401 --> 00:30:48,581.051401
And I'm going to shut this down and, and that's what I did.
490
00:30:48,731.051401 --> 00:30:52,451.051401
And, and I've never heard from her again, nor does she really have a way to contact me, but.
491
00:30:53,561.051401 --> 00:30:54,731.051401
Five to my hands of that.
492
00:30:54,761.051401 --> 00:30:55,421.051401
And I am.
493
00:30:56,471.051401 --> 00:30:57,191.051401
Happier for it.
494
00:30:57,221.051401 --> 00:30:57,461.051401
So.
495
00:30:58,211.051401 --> 00:30:58,601.051401
Anyway.
496
00:30:59,141.051401 --> 00:31:00,971.051401
In case anyone was wondering, that's what happened there.
497
00:31:01,731.051401 --> 00:31:02,121.051401
Okay.
498
00:31:02,151.051401 --> 00:31:09,201.051401
So another reason that insensitive comments can really be detrimental to our healing process is because.
499
00:31:09,651.051401 --> 00:31:29,151.051401
It can make us feel like we're wrong or that we're grieving war wrong, or that we're a little crazy in all of this, right? Like, like I said, if I was not in such a place in my life and in my grief where I am very sure of what it is and what it is not, and all of that, and guys, I know that is a process.
500
00:31:29,481.051401 --> 00:31:31,131.051401
This is literally why I'm a grief coach.
501
00:31:31,161.051401 --> 00:31:32,661.051401
This is why I have my membership.
502
00:31:32,691.051401 --> 00:31:33,921.051401
If you are not there.
503
00:31:34,311.051401 --> 00:31:37,941.051401
But you want help getting there, like, please reach out to me because.
504
00:31:38,871.051401 --> 00:31:40,191.051401
It is a process.
505
00:31:40,431.051401 --> 00:31:42,231.051401
It is a hard one to get to.
506
00:31:43,341.051401 --> 00:31:45,291.051401
There's a, there's a lot involved.
507
00:31:45,951.051401 --> 00:31:51,291.051401
And we can really second guess ourselves and how we're coping.
508
00:31:52,811.051401 --> 00:31:53,381.051401
A lot.
509
00:31:54,431.051401 --> 00:31:55,241.051401
So.
510
00:31:56,21.051401 --> 00:31:58,871.051401
That's the unfortunate part about comments like this too.
511
00:31:59,501.051401 --> 00:32:05,321.051401
Is, it can really make us feel like, like, oh man, maybe I really am doing this wrong.
512
00:32:05,321.051401 --> 00:32:09,71.051401
Maybe I am hung up on this still.
513
00:32:09,611.051401 --> 00:32:12,791.051401
Too long after my loss.
514
00:32:12,791.051401 --> 00:32:18,951.051401
And like, am I, oh, am I, am I stuck? Am I doing things? Listen there.
515
00:32:19,341.051401 --> 00:32:22,641.051401
Our positive, effective ways to cope.
516
00:32:23,301.051401 --> 00:32:25,131.051401
And there are some not so positive.
517
00:32:25,551.051401 --> 00:32:26,811.051401
Ways to cope.
518
00:32:26,871.051401 --> 00:32:30,81.051401
And that is ultimately the goal of this podcast.
519
00:32:30,81.051401 --> 00:32:33,921.051401
It's to help you understand that and to navigate that.
520
00:32:34,521.051401 --> 00:32:38,331.051401
But that is the really unfortunate part about comments like this.
521
00:32:38,331.051401 --> 00:32:42,921.051401
And I have seen this in fellow grievers where they have really taken something.
522
00:32:43,161.051401 --> 00:32:47,271.051401
Someone has said to them to heart and it's really affected them.
523
00:32:47,301.051401 --> 00:32:51,381.051401
So cautionary tale, please just remember.
524
00:32:51,861.051401 --> 00:32:54,591.051401
Everyone has to stay in their own lane, including you.
525
00:32:54,801.051401 --> 00:32:57,891.051401
We can't always stop these comments from coming, obviously.
526
00:32:57,891.051401 --> 00:32:58,371.051401
Right.
527
00:32:58,971.051401 --> 00:32:59,601.051401
But.
528
00:33:00,411.051401 --> 00:33:01,551.051401
We can choose.
529
00:33:02,31.051401 --> 00:33:02,931.051401
How we handle them.
530
00:33:04,71.051401 --> 00:33:14,421.051401
So couple more reasons here, you know, if it doesn't make us feel wrong in some capacity, It simply doesn't sit well and it can be really frustrating.
531
00:33:14,601.051401 --> 00:33:17,361.051401
I mean, what I shared perfect example, right.
532
00:33:18,111.051401 --> 00:33:26,91.051401
And when we are already maybe feeling anxious and frustrated and stressed out and all of these things that can come with grief.
533
00:33:26,601.051401 --> 00:33:30,831.051401
It's the last thing that we need to be piled on, on top of it all.
534
00:33:31,681.051401 --> 00:33:35,911.051401
And before we get into, you know, kind of what we can do about it, how we can cope.
535
00:33:36,271.051401 --> 00:33:37,531.051401
I just want to say something here.
536
00:33:38,731.051401 --> 00:33:40,891.051401
Something, we need to remember.
537
00:33:41,611.051401 --> 00:33:52,531.051401
Is that so often when someone says something that comes off as very insensitive, It is likely more about them.
538
00:33:53,251.051401 --> 00:33:54,931.051401
Then it is about us.
539
00:33:56,41.051401 --> 00:33:59,461.051401
It is more likely something about them.
540
00:34:00,451.051401 --> 00:34:08,611.051401
Perhaps something they have not worked through, perhaps it is a reflection on their life and their experiences than it is about you.
541
00:34:09,601.051401 --> 00:34:11,101.051401
So please always remember that.
542
00:34:11,151.051401 --> 00:34:16,851.051401
When they say things like this to us, if anything, this was truly a learning experience for me personally, at least.
543
00:34:17,211.051401 --> 00:34:20,631.051401
So reframe it, think about it that way.
544
00:34:21,171.051401 --> 00:34:25,71.051401
And the beauty of it is, and again, you guys, this is the essence of growing and grief.
545
00:34:26,211.051401 --> 00:34:27,471.051401
It changes you.
546
00:34:28,881.051401 --> 00:34:32,241.051401
You are simply not the same person that you once were.
547
00:34:33,21.051401 --> 00:34:34,521.051401
And it shifts your perspective.
548
00:34:34,581.051401 --> 00:34:39,951.051401
And when situations like this arise, this is a perfect opportunity.
549
00:34:40,761.051401 --> 00:34:43,761.051401
And a perfect example of a way that we can choose.
550
00:34:44,331.051401 --> 00:34:45,321.051401
How we.
551
00:34:46,211.051401 --> 00:34:46,841.051401
Deal with it.
552
00:34:47,921.051401 --> 00:34:57,41.051401
Do we choose to be the bigger person? Like I tried to be at least in this situation or do we lose it? Or, you know what I mean? We have choices.
553
00:34:57,431.051401 --> 00:35:03,101.051401
We have these beautiful choices in front of us, and I know it doesn't always feel that way.
554
00:35:03,101.051401 --> 00:35:13,691.051401
And again, if you were earlier on, in your grieving journey right now, please just take all of this in, keep it in the back of your mind as always, we're always planting little seeds here, but.
555
00:35:14,261.051401 --> 00:35:19,421.051401
That is something I have personally found about three, four years out from losing my parents.
556
00:35:20,141.051401 --> 00:35:28,121.051401
And it has been a really empowering mindset shift for me, knowing that I have the choice.
557
00:35:28,631.051401 --> 00:35:31,961.051401
And how I allow comments like this to affect me.
558
00:35:32,351.051401 --> 00:35:33,341.051401
And there was a time.
559
00:35:34,1.051401 --> 00:35:36,491.051401
Earlier on where I did allow them to affect me.
560
00:35:37,61.051401 --> 00:35:39,161.051401
I would stew on them for days.
561
00:35:39,161.051401 --> 00:35:41,51.051401
I was really resentful of the person.
562
00:35:41,321.051401 --> 00:35:42,551.051401
It brought me down.
563
00:35:43,241.051401 --> 00:35:44,921.051401
To such a negative place.
564
00:35:45,401.051401 --> 00:35:48,131.051401
And to such a low frequency.
565
00:35:48,131.051401 --> 00:35:51,551.051401
And I was living in such a low vibrational space.
566
00:35:52,691.051401 --> 00:36:01,421.051401
And the more it happened and the, the more that I evolved with my grief, the more I realized like, Nope, I am not allowing that in anymore.
567
00:36:01,481.051401 --> 00:36:02,471.051401
I do not need.
568
00:36:03,251.051401 --> 00:36:04,961.051401
I do not need this toxicity.
569
00:36:04,961.051401 --> 00:36:06,971.051401
I do not need people like this.
570
00:36:06,971.051401 --> 00:36:08,471.051401
I mean, again, perfect example.
571
00:36:08,531.051401 --> 00:36:09,431.051401
Right? So.
572
00:36:10,931.051401 --> 00:36:11,771.051401
Something to consider.
573
00:36:12,591.051401 --> 00:36:17,520.2350745
Oh, real quick interruption here, and then we'll get back to this episode.
574
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If you were someone who was experiencing some form of loss and are trying to navigate the complexities of grief.
575
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Which you likely are in some capacity, if you've stumbled upon this podcast.
576
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Then this message is for you.
577
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If you haven't heard about my life with grief, membership and community yet.
578
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This is truly something that you need to check out.
579
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This membership is here to guide you into living a deeper, more meaningful and full life after experiencing loss.
580
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Who doesn't want that? Right.
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I created this membership because I know what it's like to navigate and cope with grief on a daily basis.
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And I know the tools and support it takes to do this effectively.
583
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I've done the work myself and I've coached people just like you to do the same.
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It comes down to having impactful, effective resources and tools at your disposal, having the right support around you from people who can understand and empathize with your grief.
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587
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588
00:37:25,930.2350745 --> 00:37:29,839.418748
Oh, Before we start wrapping this up.
589
00:37:29,869.418748 --> 00:37:36,889.418748
Let's just talk high level here about what we can do about insensitive comments like this when they come in.
590
00:37:37,819.418748 --> 00:37:38,599.418748
Number one.
591
00:37:38,959.418748 --> 00:37:40,309.418748
And this is what I had to do.
592
00:37:40,309.418748 --> 00:37:46,159.418748
Big time with this woman who slid into my inbox, take a deep breath.
593
00:37:46,729.418748 --> 00:37:48,79.418748
Take multiple deep breaths.
594
00:37:49,159.418748 --> 00:37:51,139.418748
Before reacting to the comment.
595
00:37:51,139.418748 --> 00:37:57,109.418748
And by the way, I should mention, you know, there are going to be instances where someone just says this to our face and we might have to just like.
596
00:37:57,769.418748 --> 00:38:01,609.418748
Take it, you know, for me, I was reading this on my phone, so I had.
597
00:38:02,629.418748 --> 00:38:09,319.418748
Uh, I had time before I responded or before I said anything, but this goes for any in-person situation as well.
598
00:38:09,889.418748 --> 00:38:17,749.418748
Take a moment to breathe deeply and collect your thoughts because this can help you respond much more calmly.
599
00:38:18,169.418748 --> 00:38:19,39.418748
And rationally.
600
00:38:19,639.418748 --> 00:38:24,319.418748
So getting ourselves grounded, bringing ourselves back to our breath.
601
00:38:25,219.418748 --> 00:38:26,779.418748
That is, that is recommendation.
602
00:38:26,809.418748 --> 00:38:27,859.418748
Number one, always.
603
00:38:29,59.418748 --> 00:38:29,839.418748
Number two.
604
00:38:30,529.418748 --> 00:38:33,169.418748
Recognize that it's okay to be upset.
605
00:38:33,679.418748 --> 00:38:38,449.418748
It's normal to feel hurt or angry when someone makes an insensitive comment like this.
606
00:38:38,749.418748 --> 00:38:42,19.418748
Especially if you were already dealing with the pain of grief.
607
00:38:42,319.418748 --> 00:38:53,359.418748
That is why we might be like, are you freaking kidding me? Like really? You think I need this on top of everything else? And the saddest part is some people don't even realize the insensitivity behind it.
608
00:38:54,29.418748 --> 00:38:59,9.418748
So really just allow yourself to acknowledge and validate your emotions here.
609
00:38:59,819.418748 --> 00:39:05,519.418748
And I would even take this a step further and ask yourself what this is bringing up for you.
610
00:39:05,999.418748 --> 00:39:21,239.418748
I do this sometimes when I am coaching one-on-one with people, we literally start our session sometimes with like, okay, what are three emotions? Or like, Tell me, what are three words that are coming up for you for how you're feeling today? And it could be anything.
611
00:39:21,239.418748 --> 00:39:25,949.418748
It could be, you know, anticipation, anger, and hope.
612
00:39:26,429.418748 --> 00:39:32,549.418748
It can literally be three completely kind of seemingly different emotions or feelings.
613
00:39:33,239.418748 --> 00:39:40,319.418748
And that's what I love to do, because then we get into that and I'm like, okay, well, let's, let's tackle, you know, the anticipation you're feeling.
614
00:39:40,319.418748 --> 00:39:42,689.418748
Are you feeling a little angsty? Like let's, let's get into that.
615
00:39:42,689.418748 --> 00:39:43,499.418748
Let's talk about that.
616
00:39:44,39.418748 --> 00:39:45,749.418748
And then we go through some of the other emotions.
617
00:39:45,749.418748 --> 00:39:48,719.418748
So this is something that you can do on your own as well.
618
00:39:49,139.418748 --> 00:39:51,809.418748
And I love doing this practice because.
619
00:39:52,439.418748 --> 00:39:55,619.418748
It just really enhances that self reflection.
620
00:39:56,129.418748 --> 00:40:01,889.418748
And it builds that within us, it literally builds our emotional intelligence, which.
621
00:40:02,969.418748 --> 00:40:05,129.418748
There could always be more needed out there.
622
00:40:05,249.418748 --> 00:40:05,789.418748
Right.
623
00:40:05,819.418748 --> 00:40:06,209.418748
So.
624
00:40:07,109.418748 --> 00:40:13,559.418748
You know, and then here's the thing and sensitive comments can be difficult not to dwell on or stew over or get upset about.
625
00:40:14,519.418748 --> 00:40:21,359.418748
But I encourage you to think about this in a productive way and doing this self reflection.
626
00:40:21,629.418748 --> 00:40:24,749.418748
That's a perfect way to do this.
627
00:40:24,809.418748 --> 00:40:25,169.418748
And.
628
00:40:25,859.418748 --> 00:40:34,49.418748
Honestly, that also makes us a better and more well-rounded person who is then better able to support other people as well.
629
00:40:34,469.418748 --> 00:40:41,429.418748
And, you know, slowly but surely here, if we're all sort of doing this, it stops that cycle of insensitive comments.
630
00:40:42,29.418748 --> 00:40:44,999.418748
But doing that, that starts with us.
631
00:40:45,269.418748 --> 00:40:47,639.418748
And that starts with practices just like this.
632
00:40:48,209.418748 --> 00:40:48,659.418748
All right.
633
00:40:48,689.418748 --> 00:40:51,419.418748
Number three, set boundaries.
634
00:40:51,929.418748 --> 00:40:53,219.418748
I explained how I did that.
635
00:40:53,669.418748 --> 00:40:55,919.418748
In this particular instance that I shared earlier.
636
00:40:56,429.418748 --> 00:40:58,529.418748
If you feel comfortable doing so.
637
00:40:59,69.418748 --> 00:41:06,809.418748
Calmly, let the person know that their comment was hurtful and ask them to refrain from making similar remarks in the future.
638
00:41:07,439.418748 --> 00:41:12,539.418748
Setting boundaries is super important for maintaining your emotional wellbeing.
639
00:41:13,349.418748 --> 00:41:21,869.418748
This is probably the most important lesson I've had to learn when it comes to dealing with insensitive comments and balancing our mental health.
640
00:41:22,439.418748 --> 00:41:24,419.418748
Because insensitive comments.
641
00:41:24,869.418748 --> 00:41:29,729.418748
Truly can wreck our mental health, especially if we are not in a good place.
642
00:41:30,179.418748 --> 00:41:35,69.418748
If we are really in the depths of grief, for example, if we're really early on in our grieving journey.
643
00:41:35,489.418748 --> 00:41:46,889.418748
So if there was ever a time to be really on top of your mental health, And really focusing on you and what you and your heart need right now.
644
00:41:47,669.418748 --> 00:41:48,299.418748
It is now.
645
00:41:48,629.418748 --> 00:41:53,459.418748
So please set that time aside, set those boundaries, give yourself that gift.
646
00:41:54,659.418748 --> 00:41:56,849.418748
Number four seek support.
647
00:41:56,879.418748 --> 00:42:03,779.418748
Of course, surround yourself with supportive friends and family members who understand what you are going through.
648
00:42:03,869.418748 --> 00:42:07,139.418748
I truly hope you have someone around you.
649
00:42:07,589.418748 --> 00:42:17,889.418748
Where you can do this with Talking to someone who empathizes with your feelings and can provide some comfort and validation and hopefully some support and some direction as well.
650
00:42:17,889.418748 --> 00:42:23,279.418748
So whether this is through a counselor or therapist y'all I'm a perfect example.
651
00:42:23,309.418748 --> 00:42:26,129.418748
I am here for you, right? Like I have a grief coach.
652
00:42:26,189.418748 --> 00:42:27,299.418748
This is what I'm here to do.
653
00:42:27,599.418748 --> 00:42:37,889.418748
And also with my life with grief membership like this, that community that we're building in there of like-minded people, a fellow grievers, those are the kinds of people.
654
00:42:38,399.418748 --> 00:42:39,719.418748
That you might need around you.
655
00:42:39,719.418748 --> 00:42:41,219.418748
Sometimes we need a third party.
656
00:42:41,219.418748 --> 00:42:50,279.418748
Sometimes we need someone not quite so in our inner circle, who can really understand what we're going through in their own way.
657
00:42:50,759.418748 --> 00:42:54,119.418748
And to show each other a little bit of love and a little support.
658
00:42:54,809.418748 --> 00:42:57,989.418748
Number five, educate when possible.
659
00:42:58,499.418748 --> 00:43:05,339.418748
The thing is sometimes people make insensitive comments more, a little bit out of ignorance rather than malice.
660
00:43:05,369.418748 --> 00:43:07,829.418748
Like, I don't know what this woman was trying to do with me.
661
00:43:08,99.418748 --> 00:43:15,209.418748
But a lot of the times people actually don't mean it to be malicious, but of course it can come off that way.
662
00:43:15,209.418748 --> 00:43:26,69.418748
So if you feel up to it, Gently educate the person about why their comment was hurtful and suggest a more appropriate way to offer support in the future.
663
00:43:26,69.418748 --> 00:43:30,959.418748
So, Obviously I had my way of doing this lesson.
664
00:43:30,989.418748 --> 00:43:32,909.418748
I don't know if it was perfect.
665
00:43:33,59.418748 --> 00:43:35,219.418748
I felt very attacked.
666
00:43:35,249.418748 --> 00:43:37,19.418748
I felt very victimized.
667
00:43:37,19.418748 --> 00:43:43,859.418748
You know how like in mean girls, like where everyone's like, have you personally been victimized by Regina, George? Like, hi, my hand was so raised.
668
00:43:44,519.418748 --> 00:43:50,499.418748
In this instance, but let me give you some other examples here of things you could potentially say.
669
00:43:51,219.418748 --> 00:43:51,969.418748
Number one.
670
00:43:52,929.418748 --> 00:43:59,349.418748
Listen, I think you mean well, but I have to be honest, this comment is leaving me feeling dismissed.
671
00:43:59,709.418748 --> 00:44:05,79.418748
And invalidated and ultimately isn't helpful in terms of coping with my loss.
672
00:44:06,9.418748 --> 00:44:08,529.418748
Another one could be thank you for the sentiment.
673
00:44:08,799.418748 --> 00:44:16,479.418748
But honestly, this is making me feel a bit Gaslight in my grief and it is not helping me cope with my grief properly.
674
00:44:17,619.418748 --> 00:44:18,579.418748
Another one could be.
675
00:44:19,59.418748 --> 00:44:21,519.418748
I appreciate your thoughts and you thinking of me.
676
00:44:21,939.418748 --> 00:44:24,279.418748
But this is how I need to process my grief right now.
677
00:44:24,819.418748 --> 00:44:29,679.418748
I will let you know when an F I'm open to your perspectives on how to cope.
678
00:44:30,999.418748 --> 00:44:32,79.418748
Another could be.
679
00:44:32,859.418748 --> 00:44:38,199.418748
Honestly, simply listening without giving your advice or guidance is really helpful for me right now.
680
00:44:38,709.418748 --> 00:44:39,429.418748
Thank you though.
681
00:44:41,59.418748 --> 00:44:42,619.418748
Uh, last one here could be.
682
00:44:42,889.418748 --> 00:44:43,609.418748
I understand.
683
00:44:43,609.418748 --> 00:44:44,989.418748
You're trying to find the right words.
684
00:44:45,379.418748 --> 00:44:49,369.418748
But truthfully there simply aren't any words that can uplift me right now.
685
00:44:49,729.418748 --> 00:44:55,699.418748
I would love to just have an ear to listen and help keeping my loved one's memory alive.
686
00:44:56,399.418748 --> 00:45:00,779.418748
So, you know, those are just some examples, take them or leave them word it.
687
00:45:00,779.418748 --> 00:45:07,149.418748
However you'd like, if you're ever in this situation, and of course we don't want to come off as condescending at all.
688
00:45:07,149.418748 --> 00:45:09,819.418748
A couple ones in there was sort of like, thank you though.
689
00:45:10,419.418748 --> 00:45:12,609.418748
But, you know, inflection is a big part of it.
690
00:45:12,639.418748 --> 00:45:14,319.418748
I certainly don't want to say.
691
00:45:14,379.418748 --> 00:45:15,909.418748
Um, thank you though, as like, mm.
692
00:45:15,909.418748 --> 00:45:16,179.418748
Okay.
693
00:45:16,239.418748 --> 00:45:16,539.418748
Thanks.
694
00:45:16,539.418748 --> 00:45:16,929.418748
Bye.
695
00:45:17,269.418748 --> 00:45:19,489.418748
It's more like, you know, thank you.
696
00:45:19,909.418748 --> 00:45:27,379.418748
I appreciate the sentiment, but this is not really adding any value to my grieving journey right now.
697
00:45:27,379.418748 --> 00:45:29,149.418748
So thank you though.
698
00:45:29,209.418748 --> 00:45:30,79.418748
I appreciate it.
699
00:45:30,409.418748 --> 00:45:31,969.418748
You know what I mean? That kind of vibe.
700
00:45:32,209.418748 --> 00:45:32,449.418748
So.
701
00:45:33,769.418748 --> 00:45:34,579.418748
Number six here.
702
00:45:34,969.418748 --> 00:45:36,229.418748
Focus on self care.
703
00:45:36,379.418748 --> 00:45:37,699.418748
Always, always, always.
704
00:45:38,209.418748 --> 00:45:40,459.418748
Grieving is emotionally exhausting.
705
00:45:40,519.418748 --> 00:45:45,859.418748
So prioritize self care activities that help you feel grounded and nurtured.
706
00:45:45,889.418748 --> 00:45:49,309.418748
So self-care super buzz word.
707
00:45:49,579.418748 --> 00:45:52,819.418748
I don't just mean manicures and pedicures and whatever else here.
708
00:45:52,819.418748 --> 00:45:56,149.418748
Although, listen, if that helps you more power to you.
709
00:45:56,729.418748 --> 00:46:06,119.418748
What I want to really just hit home with here in this level of self care, is that grounded and nurtured thing? I just said.
710
00:46:06,389.418748 --> 00:46:11,249.418748
So this nurtured aspect is especially important because.
711
00:46:11,879.418748 --> 00:46:18,689.418748
Insensitive comments like this, that cut deep can make us feel very raw and very vulnerable.
712
00:46:19,109.418748 --> 00:46:24,89.418748
And oftentimes we have to be the ones to nurture ourselves in these situations.
713
00:46:24,89.418748 --> 00:46:27,59.418748
And we sort of have to nurture ourselves through this.
714
00:46:27,509.418748 --> 00:46:36,89.418748
And that can be really hard, especially when we are earlier on in our grief or there has been something that has come up recently that is really making our grief very prominent.
715
00:46:36,89.418748 --> 00:46:36,569.418748
Again.
716
00:46:37,79.418748 --> 00:46:37,739.418748
So.
717
00:46:38,429.418748 --> 00:46:41,69.418748
You know, just think about what this could be for you.
718
00:46:41,69.418748 --> 00:46:46,859.418748
This could include things like spending time in nature, really getting your feet on the ground again, and getting really grounded with the earth.
719
00:46:47,399.418748 --> 00:46:55,319.418748
Practicing mindfulness or meditation techniques engaging in hobbies that you enjoy seeking professional counseling.
720
00:46:55,319.418748 --> 00:46:56,279.418748
Of course.
721
00:46:56,309.418748 --> 00:46:57,59.418748
You know, I know you don't.
722
00:46:57,509.418748 --> 00:47:02,939.418748
A lot of people are kind of like, how is that self care? But like, seriously, I, like I said, I mentioned mental health.
723
00:47:02,969.418748 --> 00:47:04,679.418748
I am not joking around about this.
724
00:47:04,679.418748 --> 00:47:05,69.418748
Like.
725
00:47:05,609.418748 --> 00:47:06,839.418748
Comments like this.
726
00:47:07,349.418748 --> 00:47:08,909.418748
Like I said, you guys I've seen it.
727
00:47:08,909.418748 --> 00:47:10,769.418748
It has set people back.
728
00:47:10,819.418748 --> 00:47:12,259.418748
Please seek out the help.
729
00:47:12,949.418748 --> 00:47:19,339.418748
And lastly, you know, just engaging in activities that bring you joy and spending time with people you love around you.
730
00:47:19,949.418748 --> 00:47:21,929.418748
So last two here really quick.
731
00:47:21,929.418748 --> 00:47:23,819.418748
And then we will close out this episode.
732
00:47:24,449.418748 --> 00:47:26,669.418748
Number one, redirect your thoughts.
733
00:47:26,699.418748 --> 00:47:34,319.418748
I've talked about this a little bit already, so I won't harp on this, but when you find yourself dwelling on these insensitive comments, if they come your way.
734
00:47:34,739.418748 --> 00:47:39,449.418748
Try your best to redirect your thoughts to a more positive or constructive.
735
00:47:39,689.418748 --> 00:47:41,279.418748
Thing or topic.
736
00:47:41,559.418748 --> 00:47:45,759.418748
I've already talked a little bit about how we can do this, but I just want to reiterate.
737
00:47:46,209.418748 --> 00:47:51,279.418748
Being able to really take that power back and put it within our hands.
738
00:47:51,789.418748 --> 00:47:59,319.418748
And choose how we want to take a comment like that or how personally we want to take it or whatever it is.
739
00:47:59,949.418748 --> 00:48:01,899.418748
And those comments, the swimming gave me those.
740
00:48:01,899.418748 --> 00:48:03,99.418748
Those really cut deep for me.
741
00:48:03,99.418748 --> 00:48:05,889.418748
I really took some of that personally.
742
00:48:06,399.418748 --> 00:48:14,139.418748
And honestly, I, it really sent me into a little bit of a spiral because I was like, oh my God are other people seeing me this way or whatever.
743
00:48:15,49.418748 --> 00:48:18,919.418748
And eventually, I think it's really important to just get to a place.
744
00:48:19,339.418748 --> 00:48:22,279.418748
In our healing journey, which is continuous, right.
745
00:48:23,509.418748 --> 00:48:29,389.418748
And getting to a place in our grief where we can just say, you know what, my grief it is sacred to me.
746
00:48:30,79.418748 --> 00:48:32,509.418748
And how I cope with it and how I handle it.
747
00:48:32,869.418748 --> 00:48:34,879.418748
That is within my power.
748
00:48:34,879.418748 --> 00:48:36,349.418748
That is within my hands.
749
00:48:36,749.418748 --> 00:48:38,849.418748
It makes sense that they can cut deep.
750
00:48:38,879.418748 --> 00:48:39,809.418748
It makes sense.
751
00:48:40,109.418748 --> 00:48:41,879.418748
That it makes us second guess.
752
00:48:41,909.418748 --> 00:48:48,389.418748
And it makes sense that it can hurt us because who wants something negative said to them.
753
00:48:48,449.418748 --> 00:48:48,929.418748
Right.
754
00:48:48,929.418748 --> 00:48:49,259.418748
So.
755
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I don't want to invalidate anybody here.
756
00:48:52,109.418748 --> 00:48:56,819.418748
Like it's okay to feel hurt by these things.
757
00:48:57,419.418748 --> 00:49:07,379.418748
But the beauty of it is we do not have to let these people get the best of us and we can choose how we want to move forward and how we want the narrative to go.
758
00:49:08,69.418748 --> 00:49:09,389.418748
Nobody can strip that from us.
759
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Nobody can take that from us.
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Very last thing here, and I hope this goes without saying, but give yourself grace.
761
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Remember that it is okay to have good days and it's okay to have bad days while we are grieving.
762
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And even outside of grief, that is the nature of life.
763
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So be kind to yourself and allow yourself the space to feel whatever emotions come up for you.
764
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Without any judgment.
765
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Remember that you were only human, you are going through a very human experience.
766
00:49:40,999.418748 --> 00:49:48,349.418748
One that is painful and exhausting and draining and very raw and vulnerable, like I said, and.
767
00:49:48,739.418748 --> 00:49:50,989.418748
I just want to say here, if you ever have.
768
00:49:51,619.418748 --> 00:49:58,39.418748
Had any kind of comment, like I brought up today or anything under the sun said to you that hurt you.
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Please.
770
00:49:59,29.418748 --> 00:49:59,419.418748
No.
771
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Uh, I'm just, I'm thinking of you.
772
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I'm sending you so much love and I'm so sorry.
773
00:50:04,189.418748 --> 00:50:11,659.418748
That you have had to endure that on top of everything else that you have already been through and that you will continue to go through.
774
00:50:12,289.418748 --> 00:50:13,399.418748
It is not fair.
775
00:50:13,789.418748 --> 00:50:15,739.418748
It's not fun when it happens.
776
00:50:16,579.418748 --> 00:50:23,359.418748
But I really hope you took away from all of this today that we can control the narrative.
777
00:50:23,569.418748 --> 00:50:26,809.418748
We can control our mindset and our thoughts around it.
778
00:50:27,169.418748 --> 00:50:31,459.418748
And while it might get to us for a few minutes, it might get to us for a little while.
779
00:50:31,579.418748 --> 00:50:34,639.418748
Sometimes that's really hard to avoid and we can't always help that.
780
00:50:35,519.418748 --> 00:50:38,609.418748
We can choose how we let it affect us.
781
00:50:39,89.418748 --> 00:50:41,609.418748
But more over and almost more beautifully.
782
00:50:42,29.418748 --> 00:50:49,379.418748
How we can then show up as a better, more supportive human being for other souls.
783
00:50:49,739.418748 --> 00:50:54,779.418748
On this planet to write, because that is all, any of us are, we are all just here.
784
00:50:55,49.418748 --> 00:50:57,359.418748
Wandering around trying to figure it out.
785
00:50:57,989.418748 --> 00:51:01,409.418748
No one has the right to make you feel.
786
00:51:01,799.418748 --> 00:51:02,939.418748
Any type of way.
787
00:51:03,239.418748 --> 00:51:04,499.418748
Without your permission.
788
00:51:04,799.418748 --> 00:51:07,199.418748
So I hope you remember that today.
789
00:51:07,199.418748 --> 00:51:10,799.418748
My friend, I really hope you enjoyed today's episode.
790
00:51:10,829.418748 --> 00:51:14,189.418748
I really wanted this to just be very conversational.
791
00:51:14,549.418748 --> 00:51:19,979.418748
Like I said, just very open and honest, but also hopefully constructive.
792
00:51:19,979.418748 --> 00:51:24,539.418748
And some of the things that we talked about in terms of how to cope and how to navigate this.
793
00:51:24,569.418748 --> 00:51:25,169.418748
So.
794
00:51:25,689.418748 --> 00:51:29,109.418748
If you enjoyed today's episode, please let me know your thoughts.
795
00:51:29,109.418748 --> 00:51:31,209.418748
I always love hearing from people.
796
00:51:31,569.418748 --> 00:51:36,279.418748
And if you found it helpful at all, please share it with someone else who could use it.
797
00:51:36,279.418748 --> 00:51:42,459.418748
I really want to spread awareness about this, but moreover, I really just want to be able to help whoever I can.
798
00:51:42,759.418748 --> 00:51:48,819.418748
If they find themselves in a position like this, it is not a fun place to be, but no one.
799
00:51:49,209.418748 --> 00:51:49,959.418748
Isn't it alone.
800
00:51:50,409.418748 --> 00:51:50,859.418748
All right.
801
00:51:50,979.418748 --> 00:51:55,389.418748
So with that being said, thank you so much for hanging out with me today.
802
00:51:55,749.418748 --> 00:51:57,519.418748
And I will catch you in the next episode.
803
00:51:58,969.418748 --> 00:52:02,569.418748
I am sending you a huge thank you for tuning into today's episode.
804
00:52:02,599.418748 --> 00:52:03,79.418748
My friend.
805
00:52:03,439.418748 --> 00:52:04,699.418748
I'm so grateful you're here.
806
00:52:04,699.418748 --> 00:52:07,189.418748
And for the steps you were taking to heal your heart.
807
00:52:07,549.418748 --> 00:52:08,389.418748
Open your mind.
808
00:52:08,659.418748 --> 00:52:16,849.418748
Fulfill your soul learn, grow, and evolve and move through this crazy thing called life in big, beautiful, impactful ways.
809
00:52:17,419.418748 --> 00:52:19,279.418748
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810
00:52:19,279.418748 --> 00:52:20,59.418748
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812
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813
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814
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