October 22, 2023 • 49 mins
Join us as we give a spiritual mediumship reading to our guest sitter Sandy!
This reading was done in real time and with very minimal editing (we only took away long pauses).
We want to share what live mediumship readings can look like. Often we are inundated with very polished and edited highlight reels of mediums on T.V, big network shows and social media.
Although it’s entertaining and fun to watch all the “yes moments” it doesn’t always bring the full picture of the reading through. It’s not all 100 percent glitter and shine all the time.
Some readings are super fluent and smooth sailing, while others may take a little more navigation.
We are so thankful for the response we had to our Instagram call out for sitters to help us practise mediumship readings as a duo.
We have been learning a lot and finding our style of reading together as a team!
Thank you to our guest sitter Sandy, we truly enjoyed connecting with you and your loved ones in spirit!
Enjoy the episode!
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Payton (00:00):
Welcome.
You're listening to Soulya podcast, driven by
curiosity in spiritualitywith intuitive mediums.
Shayla and Payton.
Join us as we ask questions,create conversation, and share
in an open and heart-centeredway our personal experiences
(00:21):
and mystical ponderings.
If you're spiritually curiousand wanna be a part of the
conversation, then this isthe perfect space for you.
This is Souly.
(00:43):
All right, welcome back everyone.
I am excited today towelcome someone that is
a dear friend of mine.
Her name is Sandy.
She's been a client of mine for afew years now in my hair business
and I, guess for lack of a betterphrase came out to her spiritually
a few months ago, and she was veryexcited and very interested in it.
(01:08):
And she's been listeningto our podcast.
And when we put out there that,Shayla and I were trying this
new technique of dual linkingand, having both of us read
for someone, she put her namein the bucket and we were,
we're so excited to have her.
So welcome Sandy.
Shayla (01:26):
Thank you for choosing me.
I'm
Sandy (01:28):
really excited about this opportunity.
Payton (01:30):
Yes, we are too.
So, you have received a mediumshipreading before, this I know.
I have, yes.
Yes.
Beautiful.
so, what we're going to do today,as you're aware, we're both going
to try to connect with your lovedones, possibly spirit guides,
angels, whatever kind of, um,Messaging comes through and,
hopefully you can validate someof that information for us today.
Sandy (01:54):
Okay.
Payton (01:55):
Beautiful.
Awesome.
Before we get started, Shaylais going to guide us through one
of her beautiful meditations.
So let's begin.
Shayla (02:04):
So I just invite you both to close your eyes and
get comfortable in your seat.
You can close your eyes or keepthem open, whatever feels good.
And just take a few deepbreaths in, just connecting to
your body and your own breath
and imagining a beautiful whitelight at the top of your head
and just feeling into that energy
(02:26):
and allowing that energy to sweepall the way down your body, feeling
it on your face, your shoulders,chest, your torso, just sweeping
all the way down your legs.
I'm just taking a moment to feelinto that white light, just letting
go of anything that's happenedin your day or your week, just
creating a clear space for us,
(02:47):
imagining that white light isnow going beyond your aura.
So beyond your body.
Beyond your room, beyond your city,
beyond your state, beyondyour country, and just
sweeping all the way out.
It looks like a bubble of whitelight around you that spreads
out into the universe, so justconnecting into that source energy.
(03:08):
And we're asking for...
Messages today from Sandy's lovedones, if they want to step forward,
her angels, her guides, ancestorsjust bringing forth positivity
and the highest intention andthe highest love into this space
and creating a sacred spacefor us to share energy today.
So now imagining a beam oflight connecting to one another.
(03:31):
So a triangle connecting to us.
And that's justallowing your energy.
To connect.
I'm just taking a fewmore deep breaths in.
Whenever you're ready, you can openyour eyes if you have them closed.
Okay.
Payton (03:45):
Thank you Shayla
Shayla (03:47):
You're welcome.
Payton (03:49):
Well, I will begin today.
Sandy, I, right away, Iam feeling the energy of,
um, two separate people.
what's really interestingis, and just full disclaimer,
I have, uh, facilitateda reading for you before.
And, you know, um, and it wasinteresting because something
came through that I, had forgottenabout, but then I remembered
(04:12):
after it came through again.
I'm like, wait a minute,that was the same thing
you showed me last time.
Um, and I don't think lasttime we were able to place it.
So, um, I'm gonna, I'm goingto bring that up again because
it was shown to me again.
I have a gentleman here, and thisdoes feel like it would be the,
uh, the level of father and he isbringing my attention to his shoes.
(04:33):
And I'm seeing like thetypical, like the new balance
white, like tennis shoes.
It's like, he just keepspointing at these shoes.
And so I, am I correct?
Did that come up last time?
Sandy (04:46):
It did come up last time.
Payton (04:48):
Okay.
Was, so what's there?
I don't know if maybe there's astory about, I don't know if you
had bought him a pair of shoesor something, or maybe he's,
I mean shoes are on your feetfeet, you know that can sometimes
represent like travel and likemoving so I don't know if he's
getting around better now, orif it's a message about that.
(05:08):
Did he have.
Would he have had an issueor something with his
back, um, towards the end?
Would it have been, would ithave started to overly curve
or something towards the end?
Uh, his entire life, actually,
yes.
Okay, okay, okay, um, likescoliosis or something?
No,
he had
Shayla (05:28):
polio when he was
Payton (05:29):
four.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So yeah, maybe the shoes are justlike I'm getting around better now,
even if he didn't, um, um, do youhave, does that make any other kind
of connection for you, the shoes?
Um,
Sandy (05:46):
no, not really.
And he never worewhite tennis shoes.
Um, you know, he was afarmer, so we always had.
you know, work shoes
Payton (05:54):
or work shoes.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I, I don't know.
It's so interesting.
I, and it was funny cause I forgotthat we had talked about that.
I don't remember a lot usuallyfrom the readings I do.
but it came through again.
I'm like, why is heshowing me his shoes?
I'm like, I think he showedme his shoes last time.
So, anyway, I do, also notice,uh, there is a female here.
(06:15):
this woman, she, I, I wantto say that she's, she's
possibly an aunt of yours.
And she is comingthrough, with brown hair.
And the only reason I'm bringingthat up is, is she's making,
she's either referencing a timein her life when she was more
middle aged, or maybe she didnot, maybe she would have passed
(06:35):
before she got, to an old age.
Does this, does thisconnect with anyone for
you that you're aware of?
Sandy (06:41):
Uh, potentially, I'm not sure.
Payton (06:44):
Okay.
Let me.
I'll keep going and seeif anything else connects.
something that she showed mewas a, at first it looked almost
like it was a shape of a flower,but more, um, very, almost more
geometric than like a real flower.
And it was the colorcoral or orange.
And then it was almost onthe background of something
(07:04):
that was maybe black.
Um, I don't know if this was apattern of something she had.
That you're that you rememberyou would associate with this
woman that I think I've got here.
It feels like it would be auntand I almost feel like maybe
this is on mother's side.
And then I was alsofound myself in.
I feel like I was in someone'skitchen, again this, I feel
(07:27):
like this would have been herkitchen but keep your mind
open it might have been someoneelse's, and I was drawn to the
cookie jars that were, or likethe flower jars or whatever.
Thank you.
Um, the canisters or containersthat were on the kitchen counter.
I don't know if that's somethingthat whoever this person is,
if that's a specific memoryyou have of theirs, or if maybe
(07:49):
you own these items now, butthe kitchen felt like it would
have been a tighter kitchen.
Maybe as a child, it didn't seemso small, but maybe as an adult, it
just felt like it was a little moretighter quarters and it felt like
I could see into this backyard.
That was like kind of more ofa long narrow backyard that
(08:10):
had, I feel like it did havemaybe a privacy fence or like
a tall wood fence around it.
This felt like it, it was maybea little bit more urban of an
area than more rural, um, butI just, I felt like there was
just kind of this emphasison kind of this more longer
narrowing, um, feeling space.
(08:30):
Does any of that.
Yeah.
Sandy (08:32):
That the kitchen possibly.
Yes, I, um.
I remember my, my, well, mygrandmother always had cookies
and we would always go intoher kitchen and get cookies.
Um, and the brown hair isinteresting because she died
when she was 85 and her hair wasstill very dark brown and she
Shayla (08:51):
never
Sandy (08:52):
colored it.
Payton (08:53):
Okay, okay.
Okay, that's interesting.
Okay, so this mightbe your grandmother.
That's funny.
Because she, if, if this is yourgrandmother, it's interesting
because she, um, she gave memore feeling of that she would
be like the level of an aunt.
So then that makes mequestion then, was she
a very youthful spirit?
(09:14):
Like, did she?
Sandy (09:16):
No, not really.
Okay.
Okay.
Interesting.
Okay.
She'd had a rough life raising
kids on a farm
and, um, yeah.
Payton (09:26):
Okay.
Do you know someone that would havelived in a more urban area that?
would have had asimilar home situation
Sandy (09:33):
several months past.
I'm
Shayla (09:36):
trying to think what the color coral and orange
Sandy (09:39):
that you talked about.
Um, I don't know.
I can't I can't reallyconnect this to anything.
The backyard fence.
Doesn't really connect either.
Payton (09:47):
No worries.
No worries.
I was also feeling like, one of thewomen coming through, I, this may
be grandmother or maybe this is anaunt that we haven't placed yet.
I do feel like, uh, she may, didsomeone have, uh, breast cancer
or something related to that?
Did someone have, I, I felt likethere would have been like a, a
(10:08):
surgery, like a double mastectomy.
Is there someone?
Yep.
Okay.
Okay.
does that help place maybewho this, this would be?
Sandy (10:16):
Um, well, my mom had cancer and passed cancer.
Okay.
And yeah, and she hadbrown hair and had not
grayed yet because she was.
Still fairly young
Payton (10:27):
or so this could be another.
Okay, could be was your kitchengrowing up when you did you
grow up in a rural area orwere you more in an urban area?
I was on a farm.
You were on a farm also.
Sandy (10:38):
Yeah, and no fence.
No fence.
Yeah, trees and a big yard.
Payton (10:44):
Yep.
Okay.
Let's see here.
I was also made aware of, someonethat smoked heavily, but I, I
was getting a combination ofcigarette and perfume, which
now again, um, I believe thatcame up last time with you.
Um, yeah, interesting.
Wow.
Um, okay.
(11:05):
Give me something new, Spirit.
Sandy (11:09):
Or help me figure out who to connect those to.
Payton (11:12):
Yeah, or who this is.
Okay,
I'm getting like almostheavy floral perfume and
it's almost too much.
I'm almost feeling like, thesecond you're in their presence,
like that first instance,it's like, whoa, and then, um,
you kind of get used to it.
But then I'm also feeling like, I'malmost getting lightheaded from it.
(11:33):
So just it feels likesomeone that was very heavy
handed with the perfume.
let me see.
I'm being shown the emblem.
did you remember a specific carthat had Like it would have had an
emblem on the on the hood of thecar of whatever maker model it was.
And maybe it was somethingthat had wings on it.
Yeah, probably.
(11:54):
Yeah, something.
Okay.
Okay.
Does that connect to an auntor your mother or Does that
connect to a female that youwould have on the other side?
I
Sandy (12:04):
had an aunt that had a, yes, had a fancier car.
And yes,
Payton (12:09):
did she smoke?
Would she have been thesmoker in the perfume?
It'd be, could
Sandy (12:13):
be.
Yeah, she did smoke.
And I don't recall the perfume,but probably to cover the smoke.
I don't
Payton (12:21):
recall.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
a couple things here.
Did she have, I don't know ifthis is how she passed, but
she's making me aware of somecondition that might have been
because of the smoking, butmaybe that wasn't exactly what.
how do I want to say that shewas bringing my awareness to
my, to my chest, but I almosteven wanted to say like my liver
(12:42):
felt like I could almost feellike something in the liver.
So it's almost like there wassomething that was probably
a side effect of smoking thatshe that caused an issue but it
maybe wasn't traditionally lungcancer that she passed from.
Would that be her.
She
Sandy (12:59):
had ovarian cancer that she passed from cancer in in
her, uh, abdominal region.
Payton (13:05):
Lots of pain.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Did, um,
did she, were things maybea little difficult for
her, in her family unit?
Sandy (13:15):
Yes.
Payton (13:16):
Okay.
would there have been, I feellike this is maybe the husband,
but I feel like maybe Okay.
It lightly couldblend to other people.
I feel like there might've beensome kind of substance, misuse,
maybe, maybe drank a little bittoo much or, or it could have even,
this could be, this could even be.
I'm getting my symbol for anaddictive behavior, so that
(13:39):
doesn't always have to besubstance related, but it feels
like something about this,addictive behavior was causing
a lot of what was happening,but it was also helpful.
Bye.
Bye.
Trying to mask it or tryingto escape it or, um, it feels
like there was definitely aconnection with some kind of,
what's the word I'm lookingfor some kind of, addiction.
(14:01):
I can't I'm not coming up witha a better way to put that.
Does that, does thatapply with this?
Sandy (14:05):
Yeah, I think she had a drinking problem
and I know that her husband,
who she married very young, wasan alcoholic and very abusive.
Um, and they, I don't, I was, Well,I wasn't born yet, um, so I don't
recall all of the details, but Iknow that, yeah, she had a rough
life and, um, single parent raisingher kids and back in the fifties,
(14:30):
that wasn't, uh, wasn't so easy.
Payton (14:33):
I feel like I'm, I'm being drawn back to your father.
would they, werethey related or no?
Sandy (14:39):
It's his sister.
Payton (14:40):
It's his sister.
Okay.
Okay.
That's making more sense.
there's some, there's like thismessage here about, trying to.
Cause it's not, it's not connectedto like the details I brought
through of like any diseasesshe had or any addiction or
anything, but there's, there'ssomething about here about,
uh, some message here aboutlineage and about the way those
(15:04):
kinds of things affect people.
And it kind of trickles downto generation after generation.
and I feel like there'sthis message of, um,
you kind of breakingthrough some of that.
Let me, um, and it feels like yourdad's wanting to acknowledge that.
But it also feels like maybethere's something, coming for you.
(15:26):
There's something you were tryingto overcome, or there's something
you're trying to not overcome.
There's something you're tryingto change or something you're
trying to achieve for yourself.
And it feels like And I do knowyou personally, so I do know that,
you know, your Children have grown.
Um, so it does feel like you areat a point where now you can kind
(15:46):
of bring some more focus backon you and what you're doing.
and it feels that, when doingthat, you might have to.
Re examine maybe some thoughtsor ideas that you have learned
or thought about yourself thatwere learned just from things
(16:07):
in your childhood or experiencesyou've had that are not Thanks.
They're not workingfor you anymore.
And they're actually holdingyou back from, going the
direction you want to go.
And, it, so it feels like withthis, this new moment, you're
going to have to start toreally, address some of those
things and start to work out,iron out some of those things.
(16:29):
Because it just feels likeI'm getting a lot of, it feels
like there's just a lot thatobviously like your aunt, you
weren't exposed to her, but witha lot of family members, maybe
there was, there just feelslike there was a lot happening.
A lot of, stuff happened witha lot of different people
that you were around thatdid kind of trickle down.
(16:49):
I don't know ifthat's making sense.
I'm trying to be careful.
And trying to beclear how I, right,
share that.
No, I, there is a, thereis a, uh, history of
alcoholism and in my family.
Um, and my dad was again,I was really young and
he stopped drinking
Sandy (17:09):
when I was probably 6 or 7.
So I don't have a lotof memory of that.
And I, to be honest, my drinkinghabits have not been great in
the last couple of years sinceCOVID and lots of, uh, you
know, things happening in life.
And it has become, aneasy crutch to kind of.
Of
Payton (17:29):
course, for a lot of us.
Yeah.
He feels, he feels likea pretty happy guy.
I see a lot of yellow around him,which just kind of radiates kind
of this, like, little bit of joy.
Is that where, like, yourlittle bright spark comes from?
Would you say that kindof comes from your dad?
Sandy (17:47):
Um, yeah, probably.
Yes.
Yeah.
He was a pretty happy...
Pretty happy guy, and you would
not have known thehardships that he had.
Um, he just was very outgoing,um, but yet a very soft
spoken and, uh, generally
happy, happy
person.
Payton (18:07):
Yeah.
And very kind.
He's very kind.
I was just gonna say, he justseems very gentle and very kind.
Sandy (18:13):
And whenever you talk about him, like
your voice changes, I can hearthe, like the light coming through.
I can
hear a lightness and a, yeah.
Payton (18:21):
Oh,
he, did he also have abrother that you're aware of?
He did.
Okay.
He's, he's referencing his brother.
So I'm just going to tryand fill in quick and see.
what he's going tosay about the brother.
this might not be him.
I did get a referenceearlier of twins.
He was, he wasn't atwin brother, was he?
No, he was not.
Is there any twins in your family?
(18:41):
No.
Okay, okay.
okay, what about your brother?
Is his brother also crossed over?
Yes.
Sandy (18:49):
Okay.
He has two
Payton (18:50):
brothers that have crossed.
Okay.
okay.
do you have a wedding comingup in the family at all?
Or did, or was there onerecently or something?
Sandy (19:01):
In June?
There was.
Okay.
I had a niece that got married.
Payton (19:06):
Is she at all related to one of those brothers?
Um, uh,
Shayla (19:11):
so her, her mom is my sister.
Sandy (19:15):
So my dad would be, it would have been her
Shayla (19:16):
grandpa.
Okay.
So
Sandy (19:18):
it would have been a great
Payton (19:18):
uncle.
Okay.
It would have been a great uncle.
So yeah.
Okay.
It was interesting.
Cause they showed, theyshowed me you at a reception.
was there obviously probably notthe great uncles, but, um, was
there a table or something thereof grandparents, like pictures or
some, any, some kind of memorial?
Sandy (19:37):
There was not, because it was, it was held, it was
very casual, it was just areception held out at a, like
a nature preserve kind of park.
Payton (19:46):
There's something about,
and you're sure you don't have awedding coming up in your family?
I mean, maybe.
Sandy (19:53):
Maybe I'm not aware
Payton (19:54):
yet, but.
Yeah, okay, well, keep meposted, because we've had
that, we've had that before.
Your dad likes to show methings that are coming, so.
Okay.
Maybe, maybe keep, um,maybe keep a note of that.
And, uh, I was shown, I was showna table of, um, okay, would.
(20:14):
so I feel like this is goingto be somehow related to your
dad or his brothers somewherein that lineage, which could be
a lot of people I realize, butit feels like the wedding is
going to be somehow connectedto that part of your family.
and I, I am being shown this liketable of, I don't know if it's
pictures or some, some moment atthe wedding that is just about
those who are not able to be there.
(20:36):
so I don't know if that issomething they're going to have,
or that is something maybe, I mean,obviously they would be honored to
have that be there as a part of it.
But, that's what I'm being shown.
So I'm just going to stickwith that instead of trying to
dissect it into something else.
So, okay.
All right.
I think I'm going to pull backa little bit and let, let Ms.
Shayla take over.
So awesome.
Thank you, Sandy.
Sandy (20:56):
Thank you, Payton.
Shayla (20:57):
So I definitely feel like I'm also connecting to your
dad because all these thingsI have already written down
because when I was getting readybeforehand, I started getting
stuff and I was writing them down.
So I do also have anolder gentleman in spirit.
He would have been in his eightiesor later eighties when he passed.
Um, he did have mobility issues.
He's showing me like a walkerjust having a hard time walking,
(21:19):
and so like, I know you saidabout his spine and stuff,
so that would make sense.
this person, I have written kindeyes, so like very kind eyes, very
gentle, um, really has a strongconnection to animals, I feel
like even when they were little.
I keep seeing squirrels runningaround, and like a turkey, I
just keep getting those likelittle random animals that
he's taking care of and he'snurturing, he feels like, Like
(21:41):
he's almost like a doctor to theseanimals, like a vet in a sense.
he also makes me feel like whenhe was little, like he was very
sensitive and maybe that wasn'talways reciprocated for that
time that he was living in.
It was a little bit hard forhim because he was so nurturing.
He has a very, very blue,aura around him too.
I know Payton said yellow.
So like, those are like theempathetic, very bright, like.
(22:06):
Even a little bit eccentriccolors kind of that that can
be brought in with people.
So he does feel verynurturing and kind.
so I know you said he was ithad farm life, but I am seeing
him connecting to neighborsand like walking around.
it felt like a little bit of aneighborhood when he was older,
did he settle in a neighborhood?
He wasn't in the farm anymore.
Sandy (22:28):
He, um, the last about year and a half before he passed,
um, before he knew he was sick,he, he bought a house in one
of the little, uh, towns nearus and, um, was, yeah, I helped
him pick out all new furniture.
He was excited to have, youknow, a brand new everything
Shayla (22:46):
for 70
Sandy (22:46):
something.
Shayla (22:48):
Wow, okay.
So he was showing me likeloving that neighborhood.
Um, I'm not sure how mobile hewas like because he was showing me
like having a hard time walking,but he really like had a sense of
community and loved his community.
So he's really showing me thatand the joy he had from that.
And again he just keepsshowing me squirrels.
I feel like he will send yousquirrels or something because
like these little squirrelsare hopping around fences and
(23:08):
he feels very interested in itand he's like this is when you
see these squirrels that's me.
So keep an eye for thatbecause that's like a really
strong one he's showing melike little chipmunks as well.
I don't know if this is somethingyou would for sure know but he's
showing me like a reference toa pet turkey like something he
would have considered a friend.
Um, growing up on the farm, buthe felt this connection to a
(23:30):
bird and it feels like a turkey.
Okay,
Sandy (23:34):
that, yeah, I'm not sure.
I don't recall any
Shayla (23:36):
stories about that, but.
Okay, keep that in mindbecause he's showing me that,
but it's just also showing mehis level of empathy as well.
He's also showing me a smallerdog with him as well, in spirit.
So, before we came on the callwhen I was getting ready, I
started hearing, that song,You've Got to Break Free, I think
it's by Queen, Freddie Mercury.
(23:57):
And I heard it in my head, and thenI turned on my Spotify playlist,
and there was a song that came on,and it was, I have to break free or
whatever, but it was in a differentlanguage, and I was like, this is
weird, but there's a message inthat, so, got to break free, cause
like, he keeps talking about that,that was something that, um, he's
talking about, but it doesn't feellike he's referencing it from his
(24:19):
life, it feels like he's talkingabout your life, When he says it,
So, There's this feeling of needingto break free from yourself almost,
like I feel like there's a littlebit of feeling on the inside, like
it's a little bit of a festering.
There's also a message ofyou have to, or don't say
yes when you really mean no.
Otherwise, it's just like,oh, I can't just feel
(24:40):
this anger festering.
And you're somebody who canforgive, but you also don't
forget things as easily, soit's still kind of in you, so
that can be a little bit of ahard thing, but your dad is just
It's like this feeling of,
give me a second here.
Okay.
He's showing me these parallelsof so much responsibility.
So he's showing mehis life a little bit.
(25:02):
He has a lot of responsibility.
He's always holding, hefeels like he's holding
the family together a lot.
He has generations ofresponsibility put on him.
Did he inherit the farm then?
Sandy (25:13):
He bought it from his parents, yeah.
Shayla (25:15):
So he took on a lot of responsibilities.
He's showing me the heavinessof that responsibility
that can come in.
He makes me feel like youfeel some of that as well.
Some heaviness of carrying alot of family responsibility.
So, and he's showing me howAlthough he loved the farm it felt
so good to kind of disconnect fromit So he's again showing me some
parallels with you guys right nowand kind of those feelings So I if
(25:39):
there's this feeling that you needto break free there's this message
of Needing to stand your ground inlife, but it's interesting because
it's more referencing yourselfSo it's like, you know when you
give other people boundaries Sothat they don't kind of go into
your energy is that, but it'swith yourself, which is kind of a
confusing message, but it's almostlike you've made these promises
(26:01):
to yourself where you had thesevisions of what you wanted to do.
And then you have notactually gone out to do them.
And because you haven't donethat, it's like, there's
a lot of heaviness in you.
So you have to take the stepsto like get the ball rolling.
But you also have to knowthat you're good enough to
do them because I feel like.
You've been in some positions inthe past where you work so hard,
(26:21):
but a lot of people undermineyour work or don't appreciate you.
And so that can have a lot of.
negative impact on like selfworth and stuff like that.
So he's really just, he wantsto remind you of how fabulous
and fantastic you are and tokeep your energy up because
there's a lot of like pressure.
I feel a lot of pressureon my chest with you.
(26:41):
Or it's like, there's a lot oflike, you'll have like higher
highs and then suddenly itjust really pushes you down.
So there's just this need togo out and do things because
it's like part of you notfulfilling your visions in life.
Is what is really, getting youstuck and sticky and making
you feel not the best as well.
and like he does bring up likethe alcohol thing too and like
(27:04):
that's like being said a copingmechanism that a lot of us have
kind of been drawn to but alcoholcan have a little bit more of a
lower vibration to it as well.
So it can be really soothingin the moment and then
afterwards it's just.
You know, we might wake up and go,okay, like that doesn't, I don't
feel any better kind of thingand so he's just saying if you do
need help or to talk about thatwith somebody to reach out and not
(27:26):
feel any shame towards it becauselike Payton said, there's a lot of
like that family lineage to wherethere is a lot of alcohol use and
stuff like that and a lot of timespeople who are really empathetic.
Um, and can feel other people'senergy will oftentimes use
alcohol to cope becauseyou're just feeling too much.
And you're like, Ineed a break from this.
And that's when that can kind ofcome in and see that, but it can.
(27:50):
Sometimes be too much, right?
So he just wants to encourageyou to, to seek out conversation
with people and to share yourfeelings more with people as well.
Um, so that you're notholding, because I feel
like you're holding a lot ofstuff, like a lot of burdens.
It cannot just be your own, right?
So you have to share that youhave to allocate that out a
little bit more, and be heard.
(28:10):
So he's saying like talk therapy,like just talking is so healing,
so professional and also findingfriends that you can converse with
and, and share with that as well.
Sandy (28:21):
That's been on my to do list for about the last nine
months and it just keeps getting
pushed off.
Yeah, so go do it.
Yeah, the message here for sure.
Shayla (28:32):
Okay, so I do have another person who came in as well.
It's okay if it doesn't makesense but just hold on to it.
So I did get a woman.
In her mid to late fifties,she showed me that she
would have had red hair.
but it's kind of funny causeyou were talking about, we
were talking about differenthair colors too, with like gray
almost, because she says like.
(28:52):
She would have had red hairat one point in her life, but
then she kind of feels a littlebit more gray or it would
have faded out a little bittowards the end of her life.
she's very pragmatic and verysensible, um, with her choices.
she's like a problem solver.
She's a very hard worker.
She feels like she would be likean assistant, administrative
assistant or something like that.
(29:13):
Like she has, she's just verygood at getting things done.
Does that make sense so farwhen I'm sitting with anybody?
Sandy (29:19):
I'm not sure, the hair
is throwing me, but some of theother pieces I can connect to.
Shayla (29:25):
She does feel like she would have a long term illness
too, and it would have been like,she had a hard time letting go of
the control of her life becauseshe was always so organized and
she was always the one who wasdelegating things to people.
so I almost wonder if this islike, still connecting to one
of the other aunts you had.
The cancer diagnosis, and Iknow the red hair doesn't match,
(29:45):
um, but there is something withit, with the red hair for sure,
because I was very strong.
So I would say just holdon to it, and it could make
sense later on down the road.
Like maybe she had a red wig, orI don't know, something like that,
where there would have been I alsokeep getting like co worker vibes.
Would have you worked withsomebody that would have had
some of the similar thingsthat I just talked about?
Sandy (30:08):
Um, not that has crossed.
Okay.
my mother in law is, she was anadmin assistant and she was very
hardworking and very pragmaticand maybe everything else that
you talked about, uh, you know,really described her personality.
Shayla (30:26):
Okay.
And she did pass,she was crossed over.
Mm hmm.
Okay, I'm just gonna feel intothat a little bit more and see
if I get any other evidencethat we can try to pinpoint.
What if she had two sons?
Three.
Okay.
She's showing meboys, a lot of boys.
She's showing me like the sceneof Christmas and it being kind
(30:47):
of chaotic, but she's alsosuper organized with it to
the point where she's maybelike over giving in a sense.
Would that make sense whereshe had always like a lot
of gifts, maybe in excess?
Yeah.
Yes.
That, that was her always makingsure that everybody felt loved.
Okay.
I guess the phrase I'm hearingfrom her is that she loved momming.
(31:07):
Like, she just reallyenjoyed that aspect of life
and caring for her kids.
How many kids did she have total?
Was it three or did she have?
Seven.
Seven.
Okay.
Okay.
Because I kept hearing boys.
Then I was like, no,there's other girls too.
Like, there's like, there's a lot.
There's a lot.
Okay.
And then did she have anillness that was a little bit?
(31:30):
Longer.
No,
Sandy (31:33):
she had a, um, a stroke.
She had an aneurysm stroke and
Shayla (31:38):
lingered for a few weeks.
Yeah.
So I feel like I'm connectingto maybe like a few different
people here then as well.
Sure.
Um,
her message is just that shereally, really loves everybody.
She also is showing a lot ofsunflowers, and like garden
flowers and just, I feel likea sunflower is kind of her
sign for some of her kids.
(31:58):
So they make finelittle like trinkets.
Like pins or bookmarks andit's like the sunflower is
very much her message to them.
That's just like a little sign.
I'm getting a phrase and Idon't really know what it means.
I think it might be aband or something, but
six pence the richer.
I don't know if thatmakes any sense.
You just write it down justin case it sounds like.
A folk band, I think Iremember from my childhood,
(32:19):
so I don't, there might besomething to do with like,
music with her in that regard.
Okay.
Um,
what if somebody, like, other her,somebody close to her played a
string instrument, like a fiddleor something close to that, because
I'm hearing a lot of like, string.
Sandy (32:34):
No, not to her.
Um, one of my dad'sbrothers played the guitar.
Shayla (32:42):
Okay.
This feels a little bitmore like, like I'm dancing.
Okay.
Was she somebody whowould have liked to dance?
Like, was that something she evergo to dances when she was younger?
I think when she was younger.
Yes.
Okay.
You're showing me like thisjoy of like dancing and
connecting with people.
She feels very like.
(33:02):
Friendly, like I do feel likea lot of people really did like
her and respect her as well.
Like she was a integralpart of like the friend
group and she was just.
She feels very missed.
Um, and her, her friend group,she's also showing me like that she
would have still had really closeconnections with some women who
all kind of raise their childrentogether around the same time.
So she does send them love as well.
(33:24):
And she does very much feel likeshe's still a part of the family
like she always checks in, she'svery much a guardian for a lot
of people like you said she hasseven kids so she has like so
many grandkids now like justfeels everything feels so spread
out and she feels very proud.
Thank you.
That she was able to bea part of her family.
And she kind of looks andgoes, wow, look at all these
(33:45):
people that are, were madefrom, from me and my family
and my love and all this stuff.
So she's just, it's really cute.
So she just sends somuch love in that regard.
at this time I want to ask ifthere's anybody that you wanted
to connect to that we couldn't tapinto sometimes a name or photograph
can help to kind of get it
Sandy (34:04):
going.
So, yeah, my mom is kindof who I was hoping for.
I've, I've sensed my dad around mequite a bit but only once or twice
and for about 30 years or more so.
Okay.
Shayla (34:21):
So,
Payton and
I can just kind of see if we can.
Okay.
Get anything from that.
We'll just kind of tap in.
Okay.
Yeah.
Payton (34:29):
What was her first name?
Helen.
Helen.
Is there any connection to,this is going to be very random.
either the name or maybe thiswas the name of a town or
something like Alexandria orAlex something or, um, does
that have any connection?
Sandy (34:48):
No, not that I can
Payton (34:50):
think of.
Do you have a dress orsomething of your mother's?
I, this doesn't feel necessarily,maybe it's wedding dress.
It did not come up tome as a wedding dress.
Do you have some, agarment or something of
hers, that you've kept?
Sandy (35:03):
The only thing I think I probably have
would be her wedding dress.
That's in a trunk.
Payton (35:08):
Okay.
It's Was it not, um, is theresomething blue about it?
Is it either in a blue, um,in a blue bag or something?
Or does it, is, is there any blueconnection with that wedding dress?
Sandy (35:21):
Not that I can think of.
Honestly, I haven't looked at it.
Payton (35:26):
It came to me as a blue, um, I saw a blue dress, but I
was being shown a dress, of hers,that, um, it felt like you had.
So, um,
Shayla (35:37):
When you were growing up with her, did you find her a little
bit harder to communicate with?
Yes, very
Sandy (35:42):
much
Payton (35:42):
so.
Okay.
Would a ring ofhers have been sold?
I don't
Sandy (35:48):
think it's been sold.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Okay.
Her, her wedding ring aftershe passed, my sisters,
um, split it apart.
So one of them has theengagement ring and one has
the, the wedding band piece.
Payton (36:04):
Okay.
Shayla (36:05):
So there's a few things I'm getting.
does she ever have likemigraines or like shaking
in her body physically?
Sandy (36:13):
no migraines that I know of and I don't think so.
So
Shayla (36:18):
I'll get like lots of just like rant.
I hear things a lot like SoI'm getting, she's saying like,
the quiet, the quiet, and alsotalking about mental health.
Did she have, did she strugglewith mental health as well?
Sandy (36:30):
She did,
Shayla (36:31):
yes.
Because I feel like she's verylike, in her head in some ways.
I also feel like she didn'tknow her self worth, like she
didn't realize how smart shewas, or how talented she was,
or how beautiful she was.
She really, reallystruggled with that.
Payton (36:49):
Would she have felt like she couldn't have spoken?
Like, Would she have paused?
Did she not say much ormaybe it felt like a pause?
Sandy (36:58):
Yes, I think both of those are very accurate.
She didn't know her self worthand she was also had a very shy,
quiet, reserved temperament.
And, um, and yeah,she did not speak
Payton (37:12):
much.
That's making alittle more sense now.
do you have a symbol for her?
Like something?
I mean, I know you said you feelyour dad around a lot and you
were wanting to feel more of her.
Is there something, but I'm,I'm going to go this direction.
I feel like she is going to makeherself more known, but I feel
like, um, she does, she does,she is coming off very quiet.
(37:34):
I don't think that means she'snecessarily quiet in spirit.
I think that's just her showing tous how she was when she was here.
If she would have came verybolsterous and with a lot of
information that Might not havefelt like your mom, if we would
have described her that way.
Um, she is showing me a symbolthat is something that I get a lot.
but I'm gonna, I want to leavethat open to you and just, if
(37:55):
you start noticing something ina place where it shouldn't be or
something, and the first thing inyour heart is your mom, I would, I
would go with that and then just.
Keep feeling that and then maybeif you see it again and you get
that same kind of feeling, go withthat because I do feel like she
does want to reach out and shedoes want to communicate with you.
but I feel like I feel like it'sgoing to mean more if you kind of
(38:19):
discover what that is for yourself,then, then me sharing with you
exactly the imagery I'm getting.
Um,
There's something with like atypewriter or, do you have letters
that she would have written?
What is this?
Um,
I'm gonna, I'll let Shayla,if Shayla has anything
else, I'll let her go.
I want to feel and figure outwhat that is a little bit more.
Shayla (38:41):
Okay, so.
She does make me feel like sheneeded quiet, like quiet was her
solace, like she, I don't know ifshe would have gone into a room
for a few days, she just neededsilence for a little bit, like
she really, really needed it.
She also feels like she was justreally overstimulated by things.
I do feel anxiety, like Ithink that's probably where the
shaking is coming from, becauseI'm feeling that in my body.
It's funny because youmentioned the color blue, and
(39:03):
I saw blue too, but it kind offelt like it was referencing.
Would
she ever say, I'm feeling blue?
Like, was that somethingthat she would use?
No, okay.
No.
Something to do with blue,but, sorry, go ahead.
No,
Sandy (39:16):
you, you just said, um, you know, that, that she needed
quiet and that she would gointo her room for a few days.
And, um, that was verymuch what she would do.
She was very depressed and she, um.
Um, I haven't seen all of hermedical records, but I think
she had a diagnosis of bipolar.
And, um, so yes, in herroom for a few days was,
(39:37):
was a frequent occurrence.
Shayla (39:40):
She does reference her childhood being really difficult.
And it feels like thatplayed a big part into it.
She talks about, there's a lot,but even just feeling like.
She says, uses the word like thepatriarchy, like men in her life.
Um, it was just very difficultto stand up for herself.
She never felt like shecould fully communicate.
I also feel like she reallydid want to be a mom, but
(40:02):
she just didn't realize howdifficult everything would be.
she would have also most likelyexperienced too, like postpartum
depression or things like that,where just it was a lot for her.
And so it was really, reallyhard for her to function.
But she does want to saylike, she really, really,
really loves you guys.
And she feels like she hasno regrets in her life.
Her passing feels alittle bit sticky.
(40:23):
Like I don't, it's like I don'treally, she doesn't want to
talk about it really almost.
Like it feels very, she's justthe word confusing almost.
I don't know if she was.
where she was in her state ofmind during that time, but it
feels kind of blurry to me.
So it feels like she doesn'treally want to talk about that
in a sense, like she wants toleave that aspect of her life,
not talk about it as much.
(40:43):
She does feel really at peace.
It's the peace andthe quiet she needed.
So she feels good.
But it is interesting how she doesfeel hard to communicate with.
Like, it's really interesting.
There's not a lot of fluiditywithin, like, her conversation.
do you have, though, a fewcore memories of her when
she was doing really well?
Because it feels like there's,like, a few sunshine moments
(41:05):
in between everything.
Like, baking in the kitchenor something like that.
There's just some connectionwith that in that she wants you
to hold on to those memories.
That was really her true essence.
It was really hard forher to be here on earth.
Um, it did feel veryheavy for her as well.
Like when she passed,she felt ready to leave.
Like that's the feelingthat she's giving me.
(41:26):
Like it felt like sheneeded to go kind of thing.
and do you have sisters as well?
I do.
Yes.
I have three.
Okay, and one brother.
One brother, okay.
She really did her best in whatshe could do, like, in what she
was given and the resources shehad, especially during that time.
and she just wants you all toknow that, like, any of the
(41:46):
mental health issues she had, itwasn't a direct reflection of you
children, it was just somethingthat she had and she really wants
you to know that she loved you allvery, very much, even through...
The difficult parts of life, um,
but she, there is astrength in her too.
Like she really strikes me.
Like she had to really pullup her bootstraps essentially
and like really put on a facesometimes just to get through life.
(42:10):
I think something that she istalking about is like perseverance,
um, and to keep going.
And that's a message for you tolike, keep going, keep going,
like keep the ball going anddon't be afraid to reach out.
Like what we kind of talked aboutbefore like she's saying that in
her time it was a lot harder andshe's just saying take advantage
of all the things that are newin this world now where you can
(42:31):
reach out and you can get helpand and just to take she also
says like take things one dayat a time don't get overwhelmed
because she felt a lot ofoverwhelm in her life so she's just
saying like One step at a time.
Um,
yeah.
So I think that's what I'mgetting from her, but she
does want you to know, like,she's doing really good.
She feels so much likeher mind feels clear.
She feels so much lighter.
(42:52):
She doesn't have that heaviness.
She finally feels likeshe's seen, um, as well.
Because she didn't feel seen,it felt like, a lot of the time.
Payton, do you have anything else
Payton (43:03):
that's coming?
I think, yeah, I think we'll,uh, I think that's probably
a appropriate place to, uh,to wrap it up for today.
Thank you.
Shayla (43:14):
Thank you for sharing this moment, and I just want
to thank your loved onesfor coming through as well.
I hope that this experiencewas a good experience for you.
Sandy (43:25):
Yes, it really was.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Payton (43:29):
Thank you so much, Sandy.
Thank you, everyone again fortuning into another one of
our readings that Shayla andI wanted to share with you.
This one was with Sandy, she's beena client of mine for many years.
And it was interesting.
I, before this episode I had done.
(43:50):
A in-person reading for Sandy,where a lot of this information
had came through that I wasgetting, and none of it was
really clicking or making sense.
And I w.
To be honest, it was a veryhumbling reading for me, because
up until then, You know, this allhad been working very, very, very
well, and it can be tricky as amedium to when things don't click.
(44:12):
You know, when, when the personyou just want to make, you want
to validate the things that you'reseeing with this person, then you
want to, you want to do good bythem and good by their loved ones.
And so it can be trickywith navigating when
things don't always click.
but when she signed up to dothis reading with Shayla and I
was a little nervous, but alsowas kind of excited to see.
what more could come through.
And I was excited to kind ofhave another chance to connect
(44:34):
Sandy with the loved ones thatshe was hoping to connect with.
as we were going through thereading and you heard in this
episode, There were momentswhere I remembered things that
had come through the readingI did with her from before,
but had forgotten about untilthey came through again.
So it was just so interestingto me, that spirit would
(44:55):
show me the same thing again.
one of those instances.
So after we recordedthis episode, as I said,
Sandy's a client of mine.
She had an appointment with mecoming up just a few days after.
And I was talking to her and Isaid, you know, the, the shoes
thing, I just, I can't get over it.
I am just kind ofshocked that it came.
(45:15):
It came up twice in B.
I said, you know, he just keepsholding up his leg and showing me
these shoes on his feet and he justkeeps, you know, And I stood for
her exactly how I was receiving it.
And then it dawned on her andshe said, well, Payton, my
dad, which she did share inthis episode, but we didn't, we
didn't connect it all together.
She goes, my dad had polio.
(45:36):
And due to that, one of his legswas much smaller than the other.
And so then it dawned on me,like spirit was showing me that
he was showing me his leg, but Ikept focusing on the shoe and I
kept talking about the shoe so.
To me, it was, it waskind of fascinating that.
I don't know, not that Ineeded another validation that
(45:57):
spirit is there working, butI was seeing something and it
was showing something to me.
I was just misinterpreting it.
I was focusing on the shoe andit was more about my leg is fine.
you know, my legs doing better now.
So, I was glad that we wereable to kind of bridge that
connection and make that makesense for her because as she
shared in this episode, she hadconnected with her father a lot.
(46:19):
After we recorded, um, Sandy sentus a really beautiful email, just
thanking us again and that after,it has been a few weeks now.
even since I'm.
We're editing thisepisode and record.
Recording this.
She said after I thank you for the,the reading that we did a couple
of weeks ago, she brings up, uh,the topic I just spoke about with,
(46:39):
her dad having the chronic painand having difficulty walking.
and that she also feels that thatwas, that was him acknowledging
that he's, he's getting aroundjust fine now, like he had sneakers
on, he can, he can move fast.
and then she also really wantedto touch, on the point with
Shayla being able to bring througha lot of validating messages.
about her mom, as she sharedin this episode, the fact about
(47:02):
her mom being in the room.
and then some of the strugglesof, growing up with a parent that
struggles with mental health and.
And some of the thoughts thatthat can give you as a child, not
maybe fully understanding, what'shappening and how to understand it.
And, so.
As you, as you all heard,Shayla was able to, answer some
questions that Sandy said she had.
(47:23):
Always Had about what was goingon and, you know, touching on her,
being so quiet in the anxiety and.
In all of that.
So.
thank you, Sandy, for, validatingwith that for us again.
Thank you so much.
This, this episode was a littlebit heavier, so I thank you, Sandy,
for, sharing your loved ones andsharing your life experience.
(47:44):
You know, things, sometimes thereare difficulties in the past that.
Can come up in these readings.
Um, and it is my intentionand I believe that this was
Shayla as well, that we'rehoping that something through
this can help me be patched.
Some of the cracks that were maybemade From the past, that is at
least our hope and our intention.
So I know.
(48:05):
With Sandy, you sharingthis with the world.
I know you're not the onlyone that has walked that path.
And so I'm hoping that othersout there will be able to get
a little drop of healing from,from this reading as well.
Cause I'm sure it's going to.
It's going to touch many, so.
All right.
Thank you so much, everyone againfor listening and for your support.
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All right, welcome back everyone.
I am excited today towelcome someone that is
a dear friend of mine.
Her name is Sandy.
She's been a client of mine for afew years now in my hair business
and I, guess for lack of a betterphrase came out to her spiritually
a few months ago, and she was veryexcited and very interested in it.
(01:08):
And she's been listeningto our podcast.
And when we put out there that,Shayla and I were trying this
new technique of dual linkingand, having both of us read
for someone, she put her namein the bucket and we were,
we're so excited to have her.
So welcome Sandy.
Shayla (01:26):
Thank you for choosing me.
I'm
Sandy (01:28):
really excited about this opportunity.
Payton (01:30):
Yes, we are too.
So, you have received a mediumshipreading before, this I know.
I have, yes.
Yes.
Beautiful.
so, what we're going to do today,as you're aware, we're both going
to try to connect with your lovedones, possibly spirit guides,
angels, whatever kind of, um,Messaging comes through and,
hopefully you can validate someof that information for us today.
Sandy (01:54):
Okay.
Payton (01:55):
Beautiful.
Awesome.
Before we get started, Shaylais going to guide us through one
of her beautiful meditations.
So let's begin.
Shayla (02:04):
So I just invite you both to close your eyes and
get comfortable in your seat.
You can close your eyes or keepthem open, whatever feels good.
And just take a few deepbreaths in, just connecting to
your body and your own breath
and imagining a beautiful whitelight at the top of your head
and just feeling into that energy
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and allowing that energy to sweepall the way down your body, feeling
it on your face, your shoulders,chest, your torso, just sweeping
all the way down your legs.
I'm just taking a moment to feelinto that white light, just letting
go of anything that's happenedin your day or your week, just
creating a clear space for us,
(02:47):
imagining that white light isnow going beyond your aura.
So beyond your body.
Beyond your room, beyond your city,
beyond your state, beyondyour country, and just
sweeping all the way out.
It looks like a bubble of whitelight around you that spreads
out into the universe, so justconnecting into that source energy.
(03:08):
And we're asking for...
Messages today from Sandy's lovedones, if they want to step forward,
her angels, her guides, ancestorsjust bringing forth positivity
and the highest intention andthe highest love into this space
and creating a sacred spacefor us to share energy today.
So now imagining a beam oflight connecting to one another.
(03:31):
So a triangle connecting to us.
And that's justallowing your energy.
To connect.
I'm just taking a fewmore deep breaths in.
Whenever you're ready, you can openyour eyes if you have them closed.
Okay.
Payton (03:45):
Thank you Shayla
Shayla (03:47):
You're welcome.
Payton (03:49):
Well, I will begin today.
Sandy, I, right away, Iam feeling the energy of,
um, two separate people.
what's really interestingis, and just full disclaimer,
I have, uh, facilitateda reading for you before.
And, you know, um, and it wasinteresting because something
came through that I, had forgottenabout, but then I remembered
(04:12):
after it came through again.
I'm like, wait a minute,that was the same thing
you showed me last time.
Um, and I don't think lasttime we were able to place it.
So, um, I'm gonna, I'm goingto bring that up again because
it was shown to me again.
I have a gentleman here, and thisdoes feel like it would be the,
uh, the level of father and he isbringing my attention to his shoes.
(04:33):
And I'm seeing like thetypical, like the new balance
white, like tennis shoes.
It's like, he just keepspointing at these shoes.
And so I, am I correct?
Did that come up last time?
Sandy (04:46):
It did come up last time.
Payton (04:48):
Okay.
Was, so what's there?
I don't know if maybe there's astory about, I don't know if you
had bought him a pair of shoesor something, or maybe he's,
I mean shoes are on your feetfeet, you know that can sometimes
represent like travel and likemoving so I don't know if he's
getting around better now, orif it's a message about that.
(05:08):
Did he have.
Would he have had an issueor something with his
back, um, towards the end?
Would it have been, would ithave started to overly curve
or something towards the end?
Uh, his entire life, actually,
yes.
Okay, okay, okay, um, likescoliosis or something?
No,
he had
Shayla (05:28):
polio when he was
Payton (05:29):
four.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So yeah, maybe the shoes are justlike I'm getting around better now,
even if he didn't, um, um, do youhave, does that make any other kind
of connection for you, the shoes?
Um,
Sandy (05:46):
no, not really.
And he never worewhite tennis shoes.
Um, you know, he was afarmer, so we always had.
you know, work shoes
Payton (05:54):
or work shoes.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I, I don't know.
It's so interesting.
I, and it was funny cause I forgotthat we had talked about that.
I don't remember a lot usuallyfrom the readings I do.
but it came through again.
I'm like, why is heshowing me his shoes?
I'm like, I think he showedme his shoes last time.
So, anyway, I do, also notice,uh, there is a female here.
(06:15):
this woman, she, I, I wantto say that she's, she's
possibly an aunt of yours.
And she is comingthrough, with brown hair.
And the only reason I'm bringingthat up is, is she's making,
she's either referencing a timein her life when she was more
middle aged, or maybe she didnot, maybe she would have passed
(06:35):
before she got, to an old age.
Does this, does thisconnect with anyone for
you that you're aware of?
Sandy (06:41):
Uh, potentially, I'm not sure.
Payton (06:44):
Okay.
Let me.
I'll keep going and seeif anything else connects.
something that she showed mewas a, at first it looked almost
like it was a shape of a flower,but more, um, very, almost more
geometric than like a real flower.
And it was the colorcoral or orange.
And then it was almost onthe background of something
(07:04):
that was maybe black.
Um, I don't know if this was apattern of something she had.
That you're that you rememberyou would associate with this
woman that I think I've got here.
It feels like it would be auntand I almost feel like maybe
this is on mother's side.
And then I was alsofound myself in.
I feel like I was in someone'skitchen, again this, I feel
(07:27):
like this would have been herkitchen but keep your mind
open it might have been someoneelse's, and I was drawn to the
cookie jars that were, or likethe flower jars or whatever.
Thank you.
Um, the canisters or containersthat were on the kitchen counter.
I don't know if that's somethingthat whoever this person is,
if that's a specific memoryyou have of theirs, or if maybe
(07:49):
you own these items now, butthe kitchen felt like it would
have been a tighter kitchen.
Maybe as a child, it didn't seemso small, but maybe as an adult, it
just felt like it was a little moretighter quarters and it felt like
I could see into this backyard.
That was like kind of more ofa long narrow backyard that
(08:10):
had, I feel like it did havemaybe a privacy fence or like
a tall wood fence around it.
This felt like it, it was maybea little bit more urban of an
area than more rural, um, butI just, I felt like there was
just kind of this emphasison kind of this more longer
narrowing, um, feeling space.
(08:30):
Does any of that.
Yeah.
Sandy (08:32):
That the kitchen possibly.
Yes, I, um.
I remember my, my, well, mygrandmother always had cookies
and we would always go intoher kitchen and get cookies.
Um, and the brown hair isinteresting because she died
when she was 85 and her hair wasstill very dark brown and she
Shayla (08:51):
never
Sandy (08:52):
colored it.
Payton (08:53):
Okay, okay.
Okay, that's interesting.
Okay, so this mightbe your grandmother.
That's funny.
Because she, if, if this is yourgrandmother, it's interesting
because she, um, she gave memore feeling of that she would
be like the level of an aunt.
So then that makes mequestion then, was she
a very youthful spirit?
(09:14):
Like, did she?
Sandy (09:16):
No, not really.
Okay.
Okay.
Interesting.
Okay.
She'd had a rough life raising
kids on a farm
and, um, yeah.
Payton (09:26):
Okay.
Do you know someone that would havelived in a more urban area that?
would have had asimilar home situation
Sandy (09:33):
several months past.
I'm
Shayla (09:36):
trying to think what the color coral and orange
Sandy (09:39):
that you talked about.
Um, I don't know.
I can't I can't reallyconnect this to anything.
The backyard fence.
Doesn't really connect either.
Payton (09:47):
No worries.
No worries.
I was also feeling like, one of thewomen coming through, I, this may
be grandmother or maybe this is anaunt that we haven't placed yet.
I do feel like, uh, she may, didsomeone have, uh, breast cancer
or something related to that?
Did someone have, I, I felt likethere would have been like a, a
(10:08):
surgery, like a double mastectomy.
Is there someone?
Yep.
Okay.
Okay.
does that help place maybewho this, this would be?
Sandy (10:16):
Um, well, my mom had cancer and passed cancer.
Okay.
And yeah, and she hadbrown hair and had not
grayed yet because she was.
Still fairly young
Payton (10:27):
or so this could be another.
Okay, could be was your kitchengrowing up when you did you
grow up in a rural area orwere you more in an urban area?
I was on a farm.
You were on a farm also.
Sandy (10:38):
Yeah, and no fence.
No fence.
Yeah, trees and a big yard.
Payton (10:44):
Yep.
Okay.
Let's see here.
I was also made aware of, someonethat smoked heavily, but I, I
was getting a combination ofcigarette and perfume, which
now again, um, I believe thatcame up last time with you.
Um, yeah, interesting.
Wow.
Um, okay.
(11:05):
Give me something new, Spirit.
Sandy (11:09):
Or help me figure out who to connect those to.
Payton (11:12):
Yeah, or who this is.
Okay,
I'm getting like almostheavy floral perfume and
it's almost too much.
I'm almost feeling like, thesecond you're in their presence,
like that first instance,it's like, whoa, and then, um,
you kind of get used to it.
But then I'm also feeling like, I'malmost getting lightheaded from it.
(11:33):
So just it feels likesomeone that was very heavy
handed with the perfume.
let me see.
I'm being shown the emblem.
did you remember a specific carthat had Like it would have had an
emblem on the on the hood of thecar of whatever maker model it was.
And maybe it was somethingthat had wings on it.
Yeah, probably.
(11:54):
Yeah, something.
Okay.
Okay.
Does that connect to an auntor your mother or Does that
connect to a female that youwould have on the other side?
I
Sandy (12:04):
had an aunt that had a, yes, had a fancier car.
And yes,
Payton (12:09):
did she smoke?
Would she have been thesmoker in the perfume?
It'd be, could
Sandy (12:13):
be.
Yeah, she did smoke.
And I don't recall the perfume,but probably to cover the smoke.
I don't
Payton (12:21):
recall.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
a couple things here.
Did she have, I don't know ifthis is how she passed, but
she's making me aware of somecondition that might have been
because of the smoking, butmaybe that wasn't exactly what.
how do I want to say that shewas bringing my awareness to
my, to my chest, but I almosteven wanted to say like my liver
(12:42):
felt like I could almost feellike something in the liver.
So it's almost like there wassomething that was probably
a side effect of smoking thatshe that caused an issue but it
maybe wasn't traditionally lungcancer that she passed from.
Would that be her.
She
Sandy (12:59):
had ovarian cancer that she passed from cancer in in
her, uh, abdominal region.
Payton (13:05):
Lots of pain.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Did, um,
did she, were things maybea little difficult for
her, in her family unit?
Sandy (13:15):
Yes.
Payton (13:16):
Okay.
would there have been, I feellike this is maybe the husband,
but I feel like maybe Okay.
It lightly couldblend to other people.
I feel like there might've beensome kind of substance, misuse,
maybe, maybe drank a little bittoo much or, or it could have even,
this could be, this could even be.
I'm getting my symbol for anaddictive behavior, so that
(13:39):
doesn't always have to besubstance related, but it feels
like something about this,addictive behavior was causing
a lot of what was happening,but it was also helpful.
Bye.
Bye.
Trying to mask it or tryingto escape it or, um, it feels
like there was definitely aconnection with some kind of,
what's the word I'm lookingfor some kind of, addiction.
(14:01):
I can't I'm not coming up witha a better way to put that.
Does that, does thatapply with this?
Sandy (14:05):
Yeah, I think she had a drinking problem
and I know that her husband,
who she married very young, wasan alcoholic and very abusive.
Um, and they, I don't, I was, Well,I wasn't born yet, um, so I don't
recall all of the details, but Iknow that, yeah, she had a rough
life and, um, single parent raisingher kids and back in the fifties,
(14:30):
that wasn't, uh, wasn't so easy.
Payton (14:33):
I feel like I'm, I'm being drawn back to your father.
would they, werethey related or no?
Sandy (14:39):
It's his sister.
Payton (14:40):
It's his sister.
Okay.
Okay.
That's making more sense.
there's some, there's like thismessage here about, trying to.
Cause it's not, it's not connectedto like the details I brought
through of like any diseasesshe had or any addiction or
anything, but there's, there'ssomething about here about,
uh, some message here aboutlineage and about the way those
(15:04):
kinds of things affect people.
And it kind of trickles downto generation after generation.
and I feel like there'sthis message of, um,
you kind of breakingthrough some of that.
Let me, um, and it feels like yourdad's wanting to acknowledge that.
But it also feels like maybethere's something, coming for you.
(15:26):
There's something you were tryingto overcome, or there's something
you're trying to not overcome.
There's something you're tryingto change or something you're
trying to achieve for yourself.
And it feels like And I do knowyou personally, so I do know that,
you know, your Children have grown.
Um, so it does feel like you areat a point where now you can kind
(15:46):
of bring some more focus backon you and what you're doing.
and it feels that, when doingthat, you might have to.
Re examine maybe some thoughtsor ideas that you have learned
or thought about yourself thatwere learned just from things
(16:07):
in your childhood or experiencesyou've had that are not Thanks.
They're not workingfor you anymore.
And they're actually holdingyou back from, going the
direction you want to go.
And, it, so it feels like withthis, this new moment, you're
going to have to start toreally, address some of those
things and start to work out,iron out some of those things.
(16:29):
Because it just feels likeI'm getting a lot of, it feels
like there's just a lot thatobviously like your aunt, you
weren't exposed to her, but witha lot of family members, maybe
there was, there just feelslike there was a lot happening.
A lot of, stuff happened witha lot of different people
that you were around thatdid kind of trickle down.
(16:49):
I don't know ifthat's making sense.
I'm trying to be careful.
And trying to beclear how I, right,
share that.
No, I, there is a, thereis a, uh, history of
alcoholism and in my family.
Um, and my dad was again,I was really young and
he stopped drinking
Sandy (17:09):
when I was probably 6 or 7.
So I don't have a lotof memory of that.
And I, to be honest, my drinkinghabits have not been great in
the last couple of years sinceCOVID and lots of, uh, you
know, things happening in life.
And it has become, aneasy crutch to kind of.
Of
Payton (17:29):
course, for a lot of us.
Yeah.
He feels, he feels likea pretty happy guy.
I see a lot of yellow around him,which just kind of radiates kind
of this, like, little bit of joy.
Is that where, like, yourlittle bright spark comes from?
Would you say that kindof comes from your dad?
Sandy (17:47):
Um, yeah, probably.
Yes.
Yeah.
He was a pretty happy...
Pretty happy guy, and you would
not have known thehardships that he had.
Um, he just was very outgoing,um, but yet a very soft
spoken and, uh, generally
happy, happy
person.
Payton (18:07):
Yeah.
And very kind.
He's very kind.
I was just gonna say, he justseems very gentle and very kind.
Sandy (18:13):
And whenever you talk about him, like
your voice changes, I can hearthe, like the light coming through.
I can
hear a lightness and a, yeah.
Payton (18:21):
Oh,
he, did he also have abrother that you're aware of?
He did.
Okay.
He's, he's referencing his brother.
So I'm just going to tryand fill in quick and see.
what he's going tosay about the brother.
this might not be him.
I did get a referenceearlier of twins.
He was, he wasn't atwin brother, was he?
No, he was not.
Is there any twins in your family?
(18:41):
No.
Okay, okay.
okay, what about your brother?
Is his brother also crossed over?
Yes.
Sandy (18:49):
Okay.
He has two
Payton (18:50):
brothers that have crossed.
Okay.
okay.
do you have a wedding comingup in the family at all?
Or did, or was there onerecently or something?
Sandy (19:01):
In June?
There was.
Okay.
I had a niece that got married.
Payton (19:06):
Is she at all related to one of those brothers?
Um, uh,
Shayla (19:11):
so her, her mom is my sister.
Sandy (19:15):
So my dad would be, it would have been her
Shayla (19:16):
grandpa.
Okay.
So
Sandy (19:18):
it would have been a great
Payton (19:18):
uncle.
Okay.
It would have been a great uncle.
So yeah.
Okay.
It was interesting.
Cause they showed, theyshowed me you at a reception.
was there obviously probably notthe great uncles, but, um, was
there a table or something thereof grandparents, like pictures or
some, any, some kind of memorial?
Sandy (19:37):
There was not, because it was, it was held, it was
very casual, it was just areception held out at a, like
a nature preserve kind of park.
Payton (19:46):
There's something about,
and you're sure you don't have awedding coming up in your family?
I mean, maybe.
Sandy (19:53):
Maybe I'm not aware
Payton (19:54):
yet, but.
Yeah, okay, well, keep meposted, because we've had
that, we've had that before.
Your dad likes to show methings that are coming, so.
Okay.
Maybe, maybe keep, um,maybe keep a note of that.
And, uh, I was shown, I was showna table of, um, okay, would.
(20:14):
so I feel like this is goingto be somehow related to your
dad or his brothers somewherein that lineage, which could be
a lot of people I realize, butit feels like the wedding is
going to be somehow connectedto that part of your family.
and I, I am being shown this liketable of, I don't know if it's
pictures or some, some moment atthe wedding that is just about
those who are not able to be there.
(20:36):
so I don't know if that issomething they're going to have,
or that is something maybe, I mean,obviously they would be honored to
have that be there as a part of it.
But, that's what I'm being shown.
So I'm just going to stickwith that instead of trying to
dissect it into something else.
So, okay.
All right.
I think I'm going to pull backa little bit and let, let Ms.
Shayla take over.
So awesome.
Thank you, Sandy.
Sandy (20:56):
Thank you, Payton.
Shayla (20:57):
So I definitely feel like I'm also connecting to your
dad because all these thingsI have already written down
because when I was getting readybeforehand, I started getting
stuff and I was writing them down.
So I do also have anolder gentleman in spirit.
He would have been in his eightiesor later eighties when he passed.
Um, he did have mobility issues.
He's showing me like a walkerjust having a hard time walking,
(21:19):
and so like, I know you saidabout his spine and stuff,
so that would make sense.
this person, I have written kindeyes, so like very kind eyes, very
gentle, um, really has a strongconnection to animals, I feel
like even when they were little.
I keep seeing squirrels runningaround, and like a turkey, I
just keep getting those likelittle random animals that
he's taking care of and he'snurturing, he feels like, Like
(21:41):
he's almost like a doctor to theseanimals, like a vet in a sense.
he also makes me feel like whenhe was little, like he was very
sensitive and maybe that wasn'talways reciprocated for that
time that he was living in.
It was a little bit hard forhim because he was so nurturing.
He has a very, very blue,aura around him too.
I know Payton said yellow.
So like, those are like theempathetic, very bright, like.
(22:06):
Even a little bit eccentriccolors kind of that that can
be brought in with people.
So he does feel verynurturing and kind.
so I know you said he was ithad farm life, but I am seeing
him connecting to neighborsand like walking around.
it felt like a little bit of aneighborhood when he was older,
did he settle in a neighborhood?
He wasn't in the farm anymore.
Sandy (22:28):
He, um, the last about year and a half before he passed,
um, before he knew he was sick,he, he bought a house in one
of the little, uh, towns nearus and, um, was, yeah, I helped
him pick out all new furniture.
He was excited to have, youknow, a brand new everything
Shayla (22:46):
for 70
Sandy (22:46):
something.
Shayla (22:48):
Wow, okay.
So he was showing me likeloving that neighborhood.
Um, I'm not sure how mobile hewas like because he was showing me
like having a hard time walking,but he really like had a sense of
community and loved his community.
So he's really showing me thatand the joy he had from that.
And again he just keepsshowing me squirrels.
I feel like he will send yousquirrels or something because
like these little squirrelsare hopping around fences and
(23:08):
he feels very interested in itand he's like this is when you
see these squirrels that's me.
So keep an eye for thatbecause that's like a really
strong one he's showing melike little chipmunks as well.
I don't know if this is somethingyou would for sure know but he's
showing me like a reference toa pet turkey like something he
would have considered a friend.
Um, growing up on the farm, buthe felt this connection to a
(23:30):
bird and it feels like a turkey.
Okay,
Sandy (23:34):
that, yeah, I'm not sure.
I don't recall any
Shayla (23:36):
stories about that, but.
Okay, keep that in mindbecause he's showing me that,
but it's just also showing mehis level of empathy as well.
He's also showing me a smallerdog with him as well, in spirit.
So, before we came on the callwhen I was getting ready, I
started hearing, that song,You've Got to Break Free, I think
it's by Queen, Freddie Mercury.
(23:57):
And I heard it in my head, and thenI turned on my Spotify playlist,
and there was a song that came on,and it was, I have to break free or
whatever, but it was in a differentlanguage, and I was like, this is
weird, but there's a message inthat, so, got to break free, cause
like, he keeps talking about that,that was something that, um, he's
talking about, but it doesn't feellike he's referencing it from his
(24:19):
life, it feels like he's talkingabout your life, When he says it,
So, There's this feeling of needingto break free from yourself almost,
like I feel like there's a littlebit of feeling on the inside, like
it's a little bit of a festering.
There's also a message ofyou have to, or don't say
yes when you really mean no.
Otherwise, it's just like,oh, I can't just feel
(24:40):
this anger festering.
And you're somebody who canforgive, but you also don't
forget things as easily, soit's still kind of in you, so
that can be a little bit of ahard thing, but your dad is just
It's like this feeling of,
give me a second here.
Okay.
He's showing me these parallelsof so much responsibility.
So he's showing mehis life a little bit.
(25:02):
He has a lot of responsibility.
He's always holding, hefeels like he's holding
the family together a lot.
He has generations ofresponsibility put on him.
Did he inherit the farm then?
Sandy (25:13):
He bought it from his parents, yeah.
Shayla (25:15):
So he took on a lot of responsibilities.
He's showing me the heavinessof that responsibility
that can come in.
He makes me feel like youfeel some of that as well.
Some heaviness of carrying alot of family responsibility.
So, and he's showing me howAlthough he loved the farm it felt
so good to kind of disconnect fromit So he's again showing me some
parallels with you guys right nowand kind of those feelings So I if
(25:39):
there's this feeling that you needto break free there's this message
of Needing to stand your ground inlife, but it's interesting because
it's more referencing yourselfSo it's like, you know when you
give other people boundaries Sothat they don't kind of go into
your energy is that, but it'swith yourself, which is kind of a
confusing message, but it's almostlike you've made these promises
(26:01):
to yourself where you had thesevisions of what you wanted to do.
And then you have notactually gone out to do them.
And because you haven't donethat, it's like, there's
a lot of heaviness in you.
So you have to take the stepsto like get the ball rolling.
But you also have to knowthat you're good enough to
do them because I feel like.
You've been in some positions inthe past where you work so hard,
(26:21):
but a lot of people undermineyour work or don't appreciate you.
And so that can have a lot of.
negative impact on like selfworth and stuff like that.
So he's really just, he wantsto remind you of how fabulous
and fantastic you are and tokeep your energy up because
there's a lot of like pressure.
I feel a lot of pressureon my chest with you.
(26:41):
Or it's like, there's a lot oflike, you'll have like higher
highs and then suddenly itjust really pushes you down.
So there's just this need togo out and do things because
it's like part of you notfulfilling your visions in life.
Is what is really, getting youstuck and sticky and making
you feel not the best as well.
and like he does bring up likethe alcohol thing too and like
(27:04):
that's like being said a copingmechanism that a lot of us have
kind of been drawn to but alcoholcan have a little bit more of a
lower vibration to it as well.
So it can be really soothingin the moment and then
afterwards it's just.
You know, we might wake up and go,okay, like that doesn't, I don't
feel any better kind of thingand so he's just saying if you do
need help or to talk about thatwith somebody to reach out and not
(27:26):
feel any shame towards it becauselike Payton said, there's a lot of
like that family lineage to wherethere is a lot of alcohol use and
stuff like that and a lot of timespeople who are really empathetic.
Um, and can feel other people'senergy will oftentimes use
alcohol to cope becauseyou're just feeling too much.
And you're like, Ineed a break from this.
And that's when that can kind ofcome in and see that, but it can.
(27:50):
Sometimes be too much, right?
So he just wants to encourageyou to, to seek out conversation
with people and to share yourfeelings more with people as well.
Um, so that you're notholding, because I feel
like you're holding a lot ofstuff, like a lot of burdens.
It cannot just be your own, right?
So you have to share that youhave to allocate that out a
little bit more, and be heard.
(28:10):
So he's saying like talk therapy,like just talking is so healing,
so professional and also findingfriends that you can converse with
and, and share with that as well.
Sandy (28:21):
That's been on my to do list for about the last nine
months and it just keeps getting
pushed off.
Yeah, so go do it.
Yeah, the message here for sure.
Shayla (28:32):
Okay, so I do have another person who came in as well.
It's okay if it doesn't makesense but just hold on to it.
So I did get a woman.
In her mid to late fifties,she showed me that she
would have had red hair.
but it's kind of funny causeyou were talking about, we
were talking about differenthair colors too, with like gray
almost, because she says like.
(28:52):
She would have had red hairat one point in her life, but
then she kind of feels a littlebit more gray or it would
have faded out a little bittowards the end of her life.
she's very pragmatic and verysensible, um, with her choices.
she's like a problem solver.
She's a very hard worker.
She feels like she would be likean assistant, administrative
assistant or something like that.
(29:13):
Like she has, she's just verygood at getting things done.
Does that make sense so farwhen I'm sitting with anybody?
Sandy (29:19):
I'm not sure, the hair
is throwing me, but some of theother pieces I can connect to.
Shayla (29:25):
She does feel like she would have a long term illness
too, and it would have been like,she had a hard time letting go of
the control of her life becauseshe was always so organized and
she was always the one who wasdelegating things to people.
so I almost wonder if this islike, still connecting to one
of the other aunts you had.
The cancer diagnosis, and Iknow the red hair doesn't match,
(29:45):
um, but there is something withit, with the red hair for sure,
because I was very strong.
So I would say just holdon to it, and it could make
sense later on down the road.
Like maybe she had a red wig, orI don't know, something like that,
where there would have been I alsokeep getting like co worker vibes.
Would have you worked withsomebody that would have had
some of the similar thingsthat I just talked about?
Sandy (30:08):
Um, not that has crossed.
Okay.
my mother in law is, she was anadmin assistant and she was very
hardworking and very pragmaticand maybe everything else that
you talked about, uh, you know,really described her personality.
Shayla (30:26):
Okay.
And she did pass,she was crossed over.
Mm hmm.
Okay, I'm just gonna feel intothat a little bit more and see
if I get any other evidencethat we can try to pinpoint.
What if she had two sons?
Three.
Okay.
She's showing meboys, a lot of boys.
She's showing me like the sceneof Christmas and it being kind
(30:47):
of chaotic, but she's alsosuper organized with it to
the point where she's maybelike over giving in a sense.
Would that make sense whereshe had always like a lot
of gifts, maybe in excess?
Yeah.
Yes.
That, that was her always makingsure that everybody felt loved.
Okay.
I guess the phrase I'm hearingfrom her is that she loved momming.
(31:07):
Like, she just reallyenjoyed that aspect of life
and caring for her kids.
How many kids did she have total?
Was it three or did she have?
Seven.
Seven.
Okay.
Okay.
Because I kept hearing boys.
Then I was like, no,there's other girls too.
Like, there's like, there's a lot.
There's a lot.
Okay.
And then did she have anillness that was a little bit?
(31:30):
Longer.
No,
Sandy (31:33):
she had a, um, a stroke.
She had an aneurysm stroke and
Shayla (31:38):
lingered for a few weeks.
Yeah.
So I feel like I'm connectingto maybe like a few different
people here then as well.
Sure.
Um,
her message is just that shereally, really loves everybody.
She also is showing a lot ofsunflowers, and like garden
flowers and just, I feel likea sunflower is kind of her
sign for some of her kids.
(31:58):
So they make finelittle like trinkets.
Like pins or bookmarks andit's like the sunflower is
very much her message to them.
That's just like a little sign.
I'm getting a phrase and Idon't really know what it means.
I think it might be aband or something, but
six pence the richer.
I don't know if thatmakes any sense.
You just write it down justin case it sounds like.
A folk band, I think Iremember from my childhood,
(32:19):
so I don't, there might besomething to do with like,
music with her in that regard.
Okay.
Um,
what if somebody, like, other her,somebody close to her played a
string instrument, like a fiddleor something close to that, because
I'm hearing a lot of like, string.
Sandy (32:34):
No, not to her.
Um, one of my dad'sbrothers played the guitar.
Shayla (32:42):
Okay.
This feels a little bitmore like, like I'm dancing.
Okay.
Was she somebody whowould have liked to dance?
Like, was that something she evergo to dances when she was younger?
I think when she was younger.
Yes.
Okay.
You're showing me like thisjoy of like dancing and
connecting with people.
She feels very like.
(33:02):
Friendly, like I do feel likea lot of people really did like
her and respect her as well.
Like she was a integralpart of like the friend
group and she was just.
She feels very missed.
Um, and her, her friend group,she's also showing me like that she
would have still had really closeconnections with some women who
all kind of raise their childrentogether around the same time.
So she does send them love as well.
(33:24):
And she does very much feel likeshe's still a part of the family
like she always checks in, she'svery much a guardian for a lot
of people like you said she hasseven kids so she has like so
many grandkids now like justfeels everything feels so spread
out and she feels very proud.
Thank you.
That she was able to bea part of her family.
And she kind of looks andgoes, wow, look at all these
(33:45):
people that are, were madefrom, from me and my family
and my love and all this stuff.
So she's just, it's really cute.
So she just sends somuch love in that regard.
at this time I want to ask ifthere's anybody that you wanted
to connect to that we couldn't tapinto sometimes a name or photograph
can help to kind of get it
Sandy (34:04):
going.
So, yeah, my mom is kindof who I was hoping for.
I've, I've sensed my dad around mequite a bit but only once or twice
and for about 30 years or more so.
Okay.
Shayla (34:21):
So,
Payton and
I can just kind of see if we can.
Okay.
Get anything from that.
We'll just kind of tap in.
Okay.
Yeah.
Payton (34:29):
What was her first name?
Helen.
Helen.
Is there any connection to,this is going to be very random.
either the name or maybe thiswas the name of a town or
something like Alexandria orAlex something or, um, does
that have any connection?
Sandy (34:48):
No, not that I can
Payton (34:50):
think of.
Do you have a dress orsomething of your mother's?
I, this doesn't feel necessarily,maybe it's wedding dress.
It did not come up tome as a wedding dress.
Do you have some, agarment or something of
hers, that you've kept?
Sandy (35:03):
The only thing I think I probably have
would be her wedding dress.
That's in a trunk.
Payton (35:08):
Okay.
It's Was it not, um, is theresomething blue about it?
Is it either in a blue, um,in a blue bag or something?
Or does it, is, is there any blueconnection with that wedding dress?
Sandy (35:21):
Not that I can think of.
Honestly, I haven't looked at it.
Payton (35:26):
It came to me as a blue, um, I saw a blue dress, but I
was being shown a dress, of hers,that, um, it felt like you had.
So, um,
Shayla (35:37):
When you were growing up with her, did you find her a little
bit harder to communicate with?
Yes, very
Sandy (35:42):
much
Payton (35:42):
so.
Okay.
Would a ring ofhers have been sold?
I don't
Sandy (35:48):
think it's been sold.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Okay.
Her, her wedding ring aftershe passed, my sisters,
um, split it apart.
So one of them has theengagement ring and one has
the, the wedding band piece.
Payton (36:04):
Okay.
Shayla (36:05):
So there's a few things I'm getting.
does she ever have likemigraines or like shaking
in her body physically?
Sandy (36:13):
no migraines that I know of and I don't think so.
So
Shayla (36:18):
I'll get like lots of just like rant.
I hear things a lot like SoI'm getting, she's saying like,
the quiet, the quiet, and alsotalking about mental health.
Did she have, did she strugglewith mental health as well?
Sandy (36:30):
She did,
Shayla (36:31):
yes.
Because I feel like she's verylike, in her head in some ways.
I also feel like she didn'tknow her self worth, like she
didn't realize how smart shewas, or how talented she was,
or how beautiful she was.
She really, reallystruggled with that.
Payton (36:49):
Would she have felt like she couldn't have spoken?
Like, Would she have paused?
Did she not say much ormaybe it felt like a pause?
Sandy (36:58):
Yes, I think both of those are very accurate.
She didn't know her self worthand she was also had a very shy,
quiet, reserved temperament.
And, um, and yeah,she did not speak
Payton (37:12):
much.
That's making alittle more sense now.
do you have a symbol for her?
Like something?
I mean, I know you said you feelyour dad around a lot and you
were wanting to feel more of her.
Is there something, but I'm,I'm going to go this direction.
I feel like she is going to makeherself more known, but I feel
like, um, she does, she does,she is coming off very quiet.
(37:34):
I don't think that means she'snecessarily quiet in spirit.
I think that's just her showing tous how she was when she was here.
If she would have came verybolsterous and with a lot of
information that Might not havefelt like your mom, if we would
have described her that way.
Um, she is showing me a symbolthat is something that I get a lot.
but I'm gonna, I want to leavethat open to you and just, if
(37:55):
you start noticing something ina place where it shouldn't be or
something, and the first thing inyour heart is your mom, I would, I
would go with that and then just.
Keep feeling that and then maybeif you see it again and you get
that same kind of feeling, go withthat because I do feel like she
does want to reach out and shedoes want to communicate with you.
but I feel like I feel like it'sgoing to mean more if you kind of
(38:19):
discover what that is for yourself,then, then me sharing with you
exactly the imagery I'm getting.
Um,
There's something with like atypewriter or, do you have letters
that she would have written?
What is this?
Um,
I'm gonna, I'll let Shayla,if Shayla has anything
else, I'll let her go.
I want to feel and figure outwhat that is a little bit more.
Shayla (38:41):
Okay, so.
She does make me feel like sheneeded quiet, like quiet was her
solace, like she, I don't know ifshe would have gone into a room
for a few days, she just neededsilence for a little bit, like
she really, really needed it.
She also feels like she was justreally overstimulated by things.
I do feel anxiety, like Ithink that's probably where the
shaking is coming from, becauseI'm feeling that in my body.
It's funny because youmentioned the color blue, and
(39:03):
I saw blue too, but it kind offelt like it was referencing.
Would
she ever say, I'm feeling blue?
Like, was that somethingthat she would use?
No, okay.
No.
Something to do with blue,but, sorry, go ahead.
No,
Sandy (39:16):
you, you just said, um, you know, that, that she needed
quiet and that she would gointo her room for a few days.
And, um, that was verymuch what she would do.
She was very depressed and she, um.
Um, I haven't seen all of hermedical records, but I think
she had a diagnosis of bipolar.
And, um, so yes, in herroom for a few days was,
(39:37):
was a frequent occurrence.
Shayla (39:40):
She does reference her childhood being really difficult.
And it feels like thatplayed a big part into it.
She talks about, there's a lot,but even just feeling like.
She says, uses the word like thepatriarchy, like men in her life.
Um, it was just very difficultto stand up for herself.
She never felt like shecould fully communicate.
I also feel like she reallydid want to be a mom, but
(40:02):
she just didn't realize howdifficult everything would be.
she would have also most likelyexperienced too, like postpartum
depression or things like that,where just it was a lot for her.
And so it was really, reallyhard for her to function.
But she does want to saylike, she really, really,
really loves you guys.
And she feels like she hasno regrets in her life.
Her passing feels alittle bit sticky.
(40:23):
Like I don't, it's like I don'treally, she doesn't want to
talk about it really almost.
Like it feels very, she's justthe word confusing almost.
I don't know if she was.
where she was in her state ofmind during that time, but it
feels kind of blurry to me.
So it feels like she doesn'treally want to talk about that
in a sense, like she wants toleave that aspect of her life,
not talk about it as much.
(40:43):
She does feel really at peace.
It's the peace andthe quiet she needed.
So she feels good.
But it is interesting how she doesfeel hard to communicate with.
Like, it's really interesting.
There's not a lot of fluiditywithin, like, her conversation.
do you have, though, a fewcore memories of her when
she was doing really well?
Because it feels like there's,like, a few sunshine moments
(41:05):
in between everything.
Like, baking in the kitchenor something like that.
There's just some connectionwith that in that she wants you
to hold on to those memories.
That was really her true essence.
It was really hard forher to be here on earth.
Um, it did feel veryheavy for her as well.
Like when she passed,she felt ready to leave.
Like that's the feelingthat she's giving me.
(41:26):
Like it felt like sheneeded to go kind of thing.
and do you have sisters as well?
I do.
Yes.
I have three.
Okay, and one brother.
One brother, okay.
She really did her best in whatshe could do, like, in what she
was given and the resources shehad, especially during that time.
and she just wants you all toknow that, like, any of the
(41:46):
mental health issues she had, itwasn't a direct reflection of you
children, it was just somethingthat she had and she really wants
you to know that she loved you allvery, very much, even through...
The difficult parts of life, um,
but she, there is astrength in her too.
Like she really strikes me.
Like she had to really pullup her bootstraps essentially
and like really put on a facesometimes just to get through life.
(42:10):
I think something that she istalking about is like perseverance,
um, and to keep going.
And that's a message for you tolike, keep going, keep going,
like keep the ball going anddon't be afraid to reach out.
Like what we kind of talked aboutbefore like she's saying that in
her time it was a lot harder andshe's just saying take advantage
of all the things that are newin this world now where you can
(42:31):
reach out and you can get helpand and just to take she also
says like take things one dayat a time don't get overwhelmed
because she felt a lot ofoverwhelm in her life so she's just
saying like One step at a time.
Um,
yeah.
So I think that's what I'mgetting from her, but she
does want you to know, like,she's doing really good.
She feels so much likeher mind feels clear.
She feels so much lighter.
(42:52):
She doesn't have that heaviness.
She finally feels likeshe's seen, um, as well.
Because she didn't feel seen,it felt like, a lot of the time.
Payton, do you have anything else
Payton (43:03):
that's coming?
I think, yeah, I think we'll,uh, I think that's probably
a appropriate place to, uh,to wrap it up for today.
Thank you.
Shayla (43:14):
Thank you for sharing this moment, and I just want
to thank your loved onesfor coming through as well.
I hope that this experiencewas a good experience for you.
Sandy (43:25):
Yes, it really was.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Payton (43:29):
Thank you so much, Sandy.
Thank you, everyone again fortuning into another one of
our readings that Shayla andI wanted to share with you.
This one was with Sandy, she's beena client of mine for many years.
And it was interesting.
I, before this episode I had done.
(43:50):
A in-person reading for Sandy,where a lot of this information
had came through that I wasgetting, and none of it was
really clicking or making sense.
And I w.
To be honest, it was a veryhumbling reading for me, because
up until then, You know, this allhad been working very, very, very
well, and it can be tricky as amedium to when things don't click.
(44:12):
You know, when, when the personyou just want to make, you want
to validate the things that you'reseeing with this person, then you
want to, you want to do good bythem and good by their loved ones.
And so it can be trickywith navigating when
things don't always click.
but when she signed up to dothis reading with Shayla and I
was a little nervous, but alsowas kind of excited to see.
what more could come through.
And I was excited to kind ofhave another chance to connect
(44:34):
Sandy with the loved ones thatshe was hoping to connect with.
as we were going through thereading and you heard in this
episode, There were momentswhere I remembered things that
had come through the readingI did with her from before,
but had forgotten about untilthey came through again.
So it was just so interestingto me, that spirit would
(44:55):
show me the same thing again.
one of those instances.
So after we recordedthis episode, as I said,
Sandy's a client of mine.
She had an appointment with mecoming up just a few days after.
And I was talking to her and Isaid, you know, the, the shoes
thing, I just, I can't get over it.
I am just kind ofshocked that it came.
(45:15):
It came up twice in B.
I said, you know, he just keepsholding up his leg and showing me
these shoes on his feet and he justkeeps, you know, And I stood for
her exactly how I was receiving it.
And then it dawned on her andshe said, well, Payton, my
dad, which she did share inthis episode, but we didn't, we
didn't connect it all together.
She goes, my dad had polio.
(45:36):
And due to that, one of his legswas much smaller than the other.
And so then it dawned on me,like spirit was showing me that
he was showing me his leg, but Ikept focusing on the shoe and I
kept talking about the shoe so.
To me, it was, it waskind of fascinating that.
I don't know, not that Ineeded another validation that
(45:57):
spirit is there working, butI was seeing something and it
was showing something to me.
I was just misinterpreting it.
I was focusing on the shoe andit was more about my leg is fine.
you know, my legs doing better now.
So, I was glad that we wereable to kind of bridge that
connection and make that makesense for her because as she
shared in this episode, she hadconnected with her father a lot.
(46:19):
After we recorded, um, Sandy sentus a really beautiful email, just
thanking us again and that after,it has been a few weeks now.
even since I'm.
We're editing thisepisode and record.
Recording this.
She said after I thank you for the,the reading that we did a couple
of weeks ago, she brings up, uh,the topic I just spoke about with,
(46:39):
her dad having the chronic painand having difficulty walking.
and that she also feels that thatwas, that was him acknowledging
that he's, he's getting aroundjust fine now, like he had sneakers
on, he can, he can move fast.
and then she also really wantedto touch, on the point with
Shayla being able to bring througha lot of validating messages.
about her mom, as she sharedin this episode, the fact about
(47:02):
her mom being in the room.
and then some of the strugglesof, growing up with a parent that
struggles with mental health and.
And some of the thoughts thatthat can give you as a child, not
maybe fully understanding, what'shappening and how to understand it.
And, so.
As you, as you all heard,Shayla was able to, answer some
questions that Sandy said she had.
(47:23):
Always Had about what was goingon and, you know, touching on her,
being so quiet in the anxiety and.
In all of that.
So.
thank you, Sandy, for, validatingwith that for us again.
Thank you so much.
This, this episode was a littlebit heavier, so I thank you, Sandy,
for, sharing your loved ones andsharing your life experience.
(47:44):
You know, things, sometimes thereare difficulties in the past that.
Can come up in these readings.
Um, and it is my intentionand I believe that this was
Shayla as well, that we'rehoping that something through
this can help me be patched.
Some of the cracks that were maybemade From the past, that is at
least our hope and our intention.
So I know.
(48:05):
With Sandy, you sharingthis with the world.
I know you're not the onlyone that has walked that path.
And so I'm hoping that othersout there will be able to get
a little drop of healing from,from this reading as well.
Cause I'm sure it's going to.
It's going to touch many, so.
All right.
Thank you so much, everyone againfor listening and for your support.
(48:29):
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