February 21, 2024 • 53 mins
We are so grateful to have Christy Yael join us today for an interview where she helps us gain a deeper understanding of the world of Human Design. Christy is an accomplished owner of multiple businesses and shares with us how her spiritual journey not only helped deepen her relationship with herself but has also guided her in business and raising children.
We asked her to break down just a couple pieces of the large complexity that is Human Design to help us and our listeners understand it better. She breaks down the different Energy Types and touches on our personal Profile Lines. She gives many examples of how understanding ourselves better, using tools like human design, gives us so much to work with when navigating what it is we want and how we interact with the world around us.
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Okay, so we are really, really excitedtoday because we have Christy on.
Christy is this amazing, just human being.
So I've worked with her for quitea while, like podcasting, and
This is the first time that Paytonactually meeting her in person.
but she does human design.
She's all about alignment.
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One word that comes up thatyou just said before when we
were talking is deconditioning.
So just really findingyour authentic self.
you've had multiple businesses in yourlife that have been successful, and
I'm very fascinated by that becausethey're so different and you've
somehow just come into alignmentnow with like what you're doing now.
And I think it's interestingto see like your background.
So I feel like we have so much to talkabout and hit on with you because.
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you're just fascinating to me.
but also I just really wanna haveour listeners get a little bit of
an understanding on human design andkind of what it's, and how it can help
them in their life in different ways.
Because there's so manyways that it can be helpful.
So you specialize in a lot of like,business stuff and alignment, and
even just like personal developmentand all of that amazing stuff.
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So I'm gonna just get youto kind of talk about.
Your personal development with it, likehow did you even get into human design?
What was your journey?
Before we started, you mentioned likethe easiest thing, and this is like the
gateway for a lot of people is mediumship.
It was an easy thing to hop intoand kind of find out, but then
it took you to different places.
So I'd love you to just share kindaa little bit what you were sharing
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before with us, um, when we'rerecording, just like about your
journey and all of that good stuff.
Well, absolutely.
And thank you both for having me on.
I'm honored to be here.
I'm so, I'm just such a big fansof both of you, so thank you.
Oh, thank you.
Um, we're fans of you.
Yeah.
Even though this is the first time,this is the first time you and I
have connected, so I, I was justexcited about that before we got on.
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We were talking like, we know a lot ofthe same people and we've heard about
each other through all these people,but we've yet to actually connect.
So, um, I'm, I'm very gratefulthat you, you're here today, so.
This is a fun way to finallyget to hang out with you.
So I'll take it.
It's great.
Exactly.
There you go.
so I actually came to human design,through my development journey.
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so I'll just, I'll back up for a second.
So what human design is, 'causethat will help with context is it's,
it's a synthesis of these ancient.
Forms these ancient modalities.
It's a synthesis of the I Ching,the Kabbalah, astrology, the
chakra system, and quantum physics.
And it's this really sort of magicalcombination of all of these modalities.
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And it was, there's a, a fa afascinating backstory and I would
encourage anyone to, to Google it.
It's longer than what I'll get intoright now, but it was a channeled
system that came through, for a man.
and it's a wildly accurate system.
And I have been a student of aastrology my entire life since I was
a teenager and on my development path.
So my development path,I've, I've been a very open.
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person.
Spiritually my whole life I'vebeen a, a channel and a medium and
very psychic and very energeticallysensitive my entire life, but very
scared and deeply in the closet.
Like deeply de I was so sure if peoplereally understood what I was experiencing,
that I would get locked up forever.
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And, and because of that, whatI didn't recognize is that.
When you walk with that consciousnessof, I can't tell anyone, I'm gonna
get locked up forever, then that's,that's a, a sign in and of itself
that everything's gonna be okay.
Right.
And what I realized as I was throughmy entrepreneurship journey, because
I've built multiple businesses.
I was leaning on these.
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energetic tools more and more.
So I was leaning on my, abilityto tune in, as a channel.
I was leaning on all of these modalities,but I was still deep in the closet
and so scared and then I felt likeI was cheating the system 'cause I'm
like, oh man, like winning awards.
If anyone finds out why I amgonna get in so much trouble.
I really like a young child's response.
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Right?
I was like a six-year-old as anadult, so afraid of getting caught.
And so in my early forties, as part ofmy personal development path, as part of
my, like I've been in therapy off and onmy whole life, I've worked with shamans.
I've done all of this developmentwork to be the best version of myself.
I recognize that I could never be fullywhole be the complete, authentic version
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of me until I dealt with this part ofme And to be honest, it took me years
and it took a lot of baby steps of likebaby stepping out of the closet and
working with healers and working withguides and baby stepping each year a
little bit more and a little bit more.
And then finally, I think, wait, whenI met Danielle, which is where we all
know each other, I was ready to really.
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Take a giant step and claim this formyself and say, okay, I am ready to be
public and I'm ready to under, like,deeply understand this part of myself
in a public way instead of behind closeddoors with like one healer saying, sh
don't raise your voice, don't tell anyone.
And the easiest thing to startwith was mediumship because
it felt the most tangible.
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I'd been having mediumisticexperiences my entire life.
It was a very, This might sound sofunny, but of all of the eso like.
Of all of the things, it was theone that felt the most human right.
It was the one that felt the mostthree-dimensional, like part of our world.
I love, love that.
'cause I'm connecting withyour grandmother, right?
I'm connecting with your alllike, it's like I, this is what I.
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Your uncle looks like, and this is thestory he told me about, the experience he
had with you when you were a little boy.
Like, it's so evidential.
It's so part of our, I don't wannacall it mundane, but you know,
it's part of our material world.
You know, I can, when I go into therecords and we can talk about, you
know, the energetic blocks from yourearly childhood and your ancestral.
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Trauma and your past life.
Like, then we start gettingmuch more woo Right.
Levels of woo.
Right?
And so, um, so I started with mediumship,but then very quickly I, I moved into the
Akashic records, which was, It's like,I call it like energetic Google, right?
Like, like it's, it's a form ofchanneling where I can go into a, a
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high vibrational field where there isno time where everything is happening
in the now, and it's just the abilityto tune in like a radio frequency.
I just tune into that frequency whereeverything is happening in the now and in
that now I'm able to receive information.
That happens what we would call inour world like across all timelines.
Except it's all happening now.
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This gets weirder.
Mm-Hmm.
So I won't go down thatroad, but you're good.
But what I found was in thoseconversations, like in those channeling.
Experiences I was beingbrought information about
astrology and human design.
They kept coming forward and I waslike, we are mixing too many modalities.
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Like this is, it felt like wewere pulling from, and so I was.
I was having these really holistic,energetic experiences where there's
a component of mediumship and we'rein the Akashic records, and then
astrology is coming forward andhuman design is coming forward.
And one of the things that Danielleteaches actually was that so much of her
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development path was Spirit-led, right?
And so just trusting thatthe information that's coming
through is the next right step.
So.
I was a good student.
I was like, alright,let's go next, right step.
I'll take it.
Here we go.
Here we go.
And so I started to createoffers that were a synthesis.
which was the next rightstep for me at the time?
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It did not last for foreverbecause it became too much.
But this, uh, I would offer thesesessions where it would be all,
it would be all these things.
We're gonna look at your astrology, yourhuman design, and Akashic records, and
during the Akashic records sessions,I'm sure that your ancestors will also
step through all of this in an hour.
Come sit with me.
And it was great and it was potent,and also it was way too much and it
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was energetically also really intense.
So it was a lot.
Oh, I bet.
For me to hold it, it, it was a lot forthe sitter was like, wow, this is like.
Like energetic healing,right Through Firehose.
It was a lot.
It was a lot.
So the title
wave of Woo,
right?
It was, that is a great title for a numberof things, but it's like a podcast book.
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Yeah.
So many things.
If you need a book title,yeah, it's lots, right?
Um, so, from there, I was working moreand more and more with human design,
and what was fascinating to me was Ireally started spending time with human
design to understand my own business.
And that was the lens throughwhich I was really focused.
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I had worked on my own alignmentthrough human design, and that was
something I'd been experimentingwith for some time by that point.
And I, you know, was using it as aparenting tool with my kids, which is.
Really what I think its core purposeshould be or is in many ways, because
it's quite brilliant as a way todeeply understand your children and
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foster their own authentic nature andnot, impose your own stuff on them.
but then when I really started touse it to understand how to get clear
on my business because I was feelingstuck, I was feeling really confused.
It was like unlocking some magical likeresource that I hadn't understood and I
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dove deep into this work and I am, I am,Shayla was mentioning this when we were
talking before we started recording, butI'm a five-one in human design and so.
Those are the profile lines andthat you know that five is all about
leadership and practice and offeringpractical solutions to people.
And that one line is allabout deep, deep research.
And I will go down every rabbithole and learn all of the things
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that I'm passionate about.
And so I became this really devotedstudent to understanding how to apply
human design engine keys to business.
And when I did that, it unlockedmy own understanding of what
I'm here to do in my business.
And everything sort ofmagically fell into place.
And then I start, and thenI brought it to my clients.
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I actually first brought itto my friends, so then I would
just go to people and say, Hey.
Can I, can I give you a reading becauseI'm, I think I've figured this thing out.
I think I'm starting to understand thisand I, I wanna see if this tracks for you.
And then for them, things startedmagically falling into place and
there was just a level of clarity.
And I think for entrepreneurs,especially for spiritual
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entrepreneurs, it's a very delicate.
Space because it's weird to turn yourdevotional practice, your service,
your, you know, your heart-led wayto serve and help others into a
commodity that doesn't feel very good.
It feels right in a lot of ways.
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It feels out of alignment.
It feels like it's not so, like I'mnot supposed to start, you know, making
Facebook ads to say, come get my reading.
Like it feels yucky.
It doesn't feel like it's an integrity.
It feels like there should justbe a magical unfolding that
the right people will come.
And I do believe there is some of that.
But I also believe in this day and agewhere we are in an online space and we're
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no longer living in a tribal community.
Which is, you know, how we areinnately built to live, we're innately
built to live in these communities.
that we, because we don't have thatanymore in the same way and we're
so isolated, there really isn't anopportunity To have a reciprocal
relationship with our people, right?
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In a community.
We're recognized for the gifts we have.
Those gifts are received, and then wereceive support in exchange, and it's
a beautiful reciprocal relationship.
And now instead we're in our littleboxes in our Zooms all by ourselves
trying to post on Instagram and say hi.
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I wanna help people, anyone, right?
And it, it feels hard and.
Uncomfortable and, uh, and weird.
And, and so what I learned throughhuman design is that there's actually
a really beautiful way of being inalignment with how you're here to serve.
And there's a way to cultivateyour brand and your messaging and
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your, you know, the, the entire.
Experience of your business in a waythat more effortlessly attracts the
people that it's meant to attract.
So it doesn't have tofeel yucky and weird.
It actually starts to feel,magical and reciprocal.
It's like, oh, when I shine mylight and I do it in this certain
way that is most authentic, then mypeople start to see me and find me.
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That was a long answer andI'm not sure that was so good.
I'm like, I can, I'm just sitting here.
I'm like, I can keep listening.
Like, no, it's fascinating and thank youbecause you really covered like a lot
of areas that, I had questions for youfor, so one thing that I love that you
said, is how you, 'cause I think this isgood for anyone on the development path,
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regardless of what modality you're using.
you said you really jumped intohuman design to understand yourself
better so that then you were ableto better than serve other people.
And I think that is a great messagefor, anyone, whatever you're beginning,
whatever you're getting into.
Use it to help like heal your road andthen it will help like you then see the
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path that you're supposed to follow.
so that's great.
So thank you for sharing that and
saying that.
Can I add just one more thing tothat because Of course, please.
I was like, un, I did notthink in a million years that
this is what I would be doing.
And even when I entered Danielle'sworld, I did not think I was going
to be a professional anything.
I was like, I would just like to becomfortable with myself and under
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deeply understand this part of me.
And it was, there is an unfolding thathappens on the development path, I think.
Mm-hmm.
Where we really learn tolove ourselves along the way.
And I think it's a process and Iwish more people understood like
that's really what's happening andwhether you jump into, right, yeah.
I'm gonna turn it intoa business right away.
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Or whether you're like, no, I justwanna be developing and developing.
Either way.
Ultimately, what you're reallylearning is before I can serve anybody
else, how can I deeply love myself?
A hundred percent.
It is such a journey within likeit's, that's like the most beautiful,
sometimes the most challenging part,you know, because, I just had this
conversation earlier in a reading.
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I had a client, that's beginningher path and I said, you know,
it's the most magical thingyou're ever gonna experience.
'cause all these parts of you thathave been a part of you your whole
life are finally gonna get illuminatedand you're finally going to get to see
what it really is and connect with it.
I said, but you know, thereis challenge there because.
As it's gonna, it's gonna be a journeywithin, and if there's anything
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that needs mended, that's gonna comeup to the surface and you just, I
mean, you, you walk through it andthat ends up also becoming a very
magical and beautiful part of it.
As you, as you continue on.
So, no, that's great.
I, I love that you brought that up.
'cause I think that's a, a verygood reminder for everyone.
so with human design now, I, youtalked a lot about how this had, this
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helped benefit and strengthen Yourrelationship with your businesses and
how you were moving with through those.
I'm, I'm assuming then maybe thathelped you move away from some as
you began to understand yourselfbetter and how it is you work better
and you could apply that better.
when I had my human designreading, That was something that
was really a, a lot of it for me.
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I was able to apply to my,'cause I'm also an entrepreneur.
I was able to apply to howI proceed in that world.
so let's see.
I am a manifesting generator, soI wanna talk because there's four.
And what is the label forthose for, um, energy types.
Energy types.
Four energy types.
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Thank you.
Five.
So, um, and I would,I would, there's five.
Okay.
So I would love for you to explainwhat those are and, for, for our
listeners, but with everythingelse, it's a very layered cake.
There's a lot to human design,so it's not just that piece.
But, with mine, one thing that Ihad really taken away from it was,
it was saying, you know, being amanifesting generator, I'm able to.
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Bring forth what it is that I am,I'm seeing and I'm foreseeing and
I'm wanting, and it's better that ifI just, if I let it come to me, it
works in a better flow than if I wereto go out and try to conquer these
things and find these solutions.
It's better to know what it is I wantand then wait for it to come to me
and then go after it, and it was just.
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When I was told that, and then Ilook back at every aspect of my
life, I'm like, that has alwaysbeen how things have worked for me.
Like no matter what it was, whenever,if I try too hard to make something
happen, it just, it, there was alwaysresistance, but if I just knew what
it was I wanted and waited for it, I.
It would eventually come.
so, you know, I very much recommendgetting one of these, especially
if you are in the business world,because it is, just a reminder or a
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confirmation or a validation of maybeexperiences you had been having.
So, if you would please explain,those five different types.
Absolutely.
Um, so for our listenerscan become familiar.
So your energy type is, and it is,there are levels and layer, there's
so much information with human design.
So, but your energy type is, youcan think of it as the energy with
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which you're moving through life.
And so there are, I, I put themin, there's two categories.
There's what I would callsacral and then non-Sacral.
And so your sacral is, is what's calledthe motor center and it's how you respond.
And so, generators and manifestinggenerators, are often grouped
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together as one of the four,which is why I say five because.
Ah, okay.
In my experience, generators andmanifesting generators are similar
because they're sacral and they'rehere to respond to life, but there are
differences in how their energy works.
so there's manifesting generatorsand then there's generators,
and a manifesting generator hasan energy that is, it's very.
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I in, in its most aligned, it'svery playful, it's very creative.
It's, it's very expressive andit, it tends to move in like
big bursts of energy, right?
It like, has a big burst.
It moves and then it sort of needsto rest for a minute, and then
another big burst and then it rests.
And, then a generator is, and, andthey, they say with a manifesting
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generator that you're here to.
To do multiple things, like you'llhave a life that's very, varried.
You'll have, you'll end up doing a lotof things in your life, even at one time.
You'll always have multiplethings that you're focusing on.
and if not, you tend to getquite bored and stagnant.
I.
So it's an energy thatreally likes to move.
And the generator is, again,it's that sacral, but it's here
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to be a master at something.
So there's whatever it isthat it gets really lit up by.
it's here to really focus on that.
And then, and then.
Then really dedicate itstime to mastering it.
And it doesn't mean, and I get thisquestion a lot where generators
are like, well, does that meanI can't do multiple things?
No.
But if you've ever watched, likewhen I watch a generator work,
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they do not wanna get bothered.
They want to stay focused.
They, they have their blinders on andthey're deeply passionate and they can
just go and focus on that one thing.
They can like push thatboulder uphill and not.
And not want to, and be annoyedif anything else, pulls 'em
away as a manifesting generator.
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A manifesting generator can be working onone thing, and then you bring something
else exciting to them that lights 'emup and they're like, Ooh, what else?
Ooh, what else?
And they're, they, they are morelike a puppy in that regard.
And I say that as a manifesting generator.
So I speak from my own truth.
Then you get into the non-Sacral.
And so when you look at the generatorsand the manifesting generators being
like that lit up, that that sacralenergy, if you think of the chakra
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system, right, this is, it's creativityand its passion and its sexuality.
It's that life force sacral.
And so that's what'sreally driving those two.
the non-Sacral, thatwould be your projector.
That would be your manifestorand your reflector.
And they're here torespond quite differently.
So instead of, responding like themanifestor is here to initiate.
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So, they talk about how.
Most of the rulers of kingdomsback in the day were manifestors,
like, that's manifestor energy.
It's here to just do the thing.
It's here to initiate its energy and,but not to have to follow through.
So it will, you know, start the thing, itwill start whatever the project is, but
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if you ask it to do all the minutia, allthe, the, the granular work, it's going
to get very burnt out very, very quickly.
So, That's when, when you look at likebusiness strategy, you wanna pair a
manifestor with a generator becausethen, right, you put those two energies
together and the manifestor initiatesand then the generator takes over,
and then you've got a machine that'sworking really, really effectively.
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Reflectors are completely open centers.
I'm trying to not get too deep into thisinformation for fear of confusing people,
but they say that a reflector is here towait and it like when making decisions,
when responding to life, they're hereto wait an entire lunar cycle, which
tends to cause a lot of anxiety forreflectors, and it's not that they have
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to for every decision in their life.
It's just that a reflectoris like a sponge.
So any environment that they're in,they sort of, they take on the energy
of the environment because they're open.
And so in order to really make analigned decision, they want to have the
time to move through different Mm-Hmm.
Environments to measure theirresponse through these different.
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Environments because if not, if theymake it too soon, then they haven't,
really understood themselves withoutexperiencing more of their life.
Trying so hard not to get toointo the details, but you're
doing great.
You're doing great.
No, I think that's, yeah,
because it's complicated.
There's lots of layers to it, of course.
Um, um, it was a big question.
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I know.
And well, and then I, Iproject and I think what's.
Tricky is that it is just one part, right?
So like of course a manifesting generatorthat has a certain profile and has
some centers open and some centersdefined is gonna be very different
than a different manifesting generator.
It's a little like withastrology and like.
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One Taurus sun is gonna bedifferent than another Taurus Sun
based on all of their placements.
And I think just like in popastrology, we can start, you know,
stereotyping and I think it canbe the same for, human design.
And so a lot of the work that Ido in human design is to focus on.
sort of the, the more like theincarnation cross and the profile to
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really deeply understand how is theenergy moving through your system
and how are you receiving the worldand how is the world receiving you?
And that's when it getsreally, really fascinating.
Yeah.
But, uh, I digress.
The last one is projector.
So the last energy type is projector and.
I love projectors.
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Projectors in business are amazing whenthey're in alignment because projectors,
they're really here to be recognized fortheir gifts, and I think projectors, it's
one of the hardest energy types to master.
in, especially in business, but justgenerally in life because when a
projector isn't recognized for theirgifts, they get bitter and they
very, they can be like, forget it.
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Just nobody notices.
Nobody cares.
Never mind terrible.
But, but what is amazing is thatwhen a projector really starts with
themselves, going back to what wewere saying about self-love, when
a projector recognizes themselves.
Really falls deeply in love withthemselves and their gifts and their
service to the world, and really deeplyembodies that when they do that first
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and do it fully, and then they juststart to show up in the world and
shine their light from that knowingthey become the brightest light.
So in some ways it's thehardest path because it takes
that deep self-recognition.
But when they get it.
It's pretty magical becauseprojectors are here to guide us.
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They're our guides.
Okay.
Well that was a lot ofamazing information.
It was a lot of information.
I know.
I'm so great information.
No, it's perfect.
I think this is a really good startfor people to kind of understand it
because it can feel so complicatedtoo when you, especially when you
do your chart and you look at itand you're like, what is going on?
So that can be a first littlething to kind of look into.
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And while you're speaking.
I'm like, oh my gosh, likeyou're talking about projectors.
I'm like, that's my husband.
And then you're talkingabout the manifester energy.
And I had to laugh becauseI just instantly got this
memory of me with my son.
So I'm a generator and he is like sixyears old and he just always has these
like ideas and things he wants to do.
And so one of them was a costume.
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He wants to make a Thomas a train costume.
So into it like, you need to getme this paint now we have to go
right now to the store and get it.
I go, I do all the things.
I'm like working hard.
I'm helping and paint it.
By the time it's finished.
He's like, okay.
He is like done with it andhe onto the next costume idea.
Like, but that was just like an exampleof like, he has this like manifestation,
this dream he wants to do right.
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And he just so eager todo it and so excited.
But then.
The in-between stuff, he is notnecessarily like, okay, I wanna do it, but
he wants to see the end result and it kindof needed me to to bring him into that.
Right.
So yeah, I thought that wasreally funny, just kind of
hearing the different dynamics of
each.
Well, and so when, we look atbusiness, and I'm gonna connect
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this to children in a second.
'cause when we look at business,I, I have a lot of people that
come to me and they are burnt out.
They're exhausted, and they're like, I,how do I, this is, can't be this hard.
Like how do I do this differently?
And it's because they've beenconditioned to show up in the world
a certain way and we've really beenconditioned to show up as generators.
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it's, that's the dominant energytype in on this planet is generator.
And in the industrialized educationsystem, we are taught to be generators.
You start a thing, you gotta finish it.
You show up every day.
You are consistent.
You follow through, you beresponsible for the thing.
The, you know, we're really, and wepraise generators in our society, but it
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doesn't, it only works for generators.
And so it doesn't work formanifesting generators.
It certainly won't work andprojectors more than anyone.
They're the ones that I sit with themost that are just, they're like, I
don't wanna do any of this ever again.
This is so awful.
Even though this is my heart, thisis my passion, like I know it's how
I'm here to serve, but this wholesystem, I watch how everyone else
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is working and it's not working forme, and I don't know what to do.
Do I just burn the wholething down and walk away?
No, of course not.
It's just you can work like aprojector can do more in four
hours than a generator can.
In 12, A manifestor can create, has thislike bright spark that they get this
giant creative spark and they're like.
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That spark changes the world, right?
Like this is how we invent things.
We just have this like giant, like Ihave a knowing I have an inspiration, and
now we need all the other people to comeand support it and bring it to fruition.
So yeah.
Yeah, it's, I love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think as like a generator too, likeyou said, that's the most common one.
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That, and it kind of ishow the world is run.
And I think it's interesting because.
Now we can see like differentelements of each other and that
there's no wrong way to do it.
It's just a different way.
So when I'm in my generator tailspinof like, and that's the thing
where sometimes I have a hard timestarting to work because I know
once I start, I, I can't stop.
Like I literally can't stop.
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it comes helpful sometimes, like whenI had to move two years ago, I was
up for thirty-seven hours straight.
And everyone else crashed aroundme and I was like, thank God.
But I think sometimes we could havethis judgment towards each other, like,
why aren't you thinking the same way?
Or like workingenergetically the same way.
And so it could be really helpful tolearn about these different things,
not just your own, because then youhave family members and you know, then
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you understand more people that you'reworking with in business and it just
creates this energetic flow that can bereally helpful to understand one another.
So that's what.
I think is really cool about that.
I think my next questionor sorry, go ahead.
Oh, I was
just gonna say really quickly, theother thing that's really interesting,
like eventually one day I will alsodo work with families because I
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use human design for my kids allthe time and it's so powerful.
But one of the things that'salso interesting to look
at is the family system.
And actually it's the same in business.
You look at a business system and youlook at how everyone is plugging into
everyone's energy because you knowyour generator energy is impacting your
son's manifest or energy and vice versa.
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Mm-Hmm.
So when you guys are right and,and you plug into that and what's
fascinating In human design is you canreally look at how energetically you
are completing one another and whatthe synthesis of your two charts is.
And it's, it's absolutely fascinating.
Fascinating.
And It's, it's great to solve likeworkplace issues or family systems issues.
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Yeah.
When you start to see, oh.
We're triggering each other because ofthese mislaid expectations, or we're
projecting on each other because of,and it really helps you understand, you
know, one of the things I love abouthuman design is it's very masculine.
It's a very masculine systemsbased, which makes my five lines
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so happy because it's so practical.
It's a system, it's a, it's soblack and white in that regard.
Right.
And it's a, it's a map.
It's just a.
A very clear map, and I find, you know,I, I can now, to work with profiles.
I find profiles are the mostinformative snapshot of someone,
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even more than energy types.
It's, it's pretty remarkable.
just as you were talking and going throughthis, I'm like, I know so many people.
Maybe it's, well, nothing's a coincidence,but I think since the pandemic, I
think one thing it caused a lot ofpeople to do is to stop and think
like, what is happening in the world?
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Where am I going?
What do I wanna do?
And I think it opened this door.
That a lot of people are reallytrying to figure out how they fit
and how they work in this world asit continues to keep ever changing.
So I just keep seeing like, what anamazing tool to be able to offer people.
And like you said, it's structured,there's, there's a system in place to it.
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It's there know.
When you have it explained toyou and you're going through it,
you can see why it is the way itis and it just connects so well.
Like what an amazingtool to be able to have.
If you are in this moment of like,I know I need to do something, maybe
I'm not sure what that's gonna be.
So then maybe it leads you towards like,well, you need to be doing something that
helps, you know, reflect your strengths.
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Or, I have this thingalready, but it's not working.
How do we, you know, how do weunderstand each other better?
so that we can get this, the,the energy flowing better or just
for, to get it to work better?
So it, I can imagine I don't havechildren, but I know the both of you do.
So I can only imaginethat this would also work.
Amazing with, raising little ones.
So it's, yeah, I just think it'sfascinating and I think a lot
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of people really could benefitfrom it in, in so many ways.
Yeah, it is.
It's really, and, and it, it's atool, like it's just one more tool.
It's a wildly accurate one.
I, I actually got to the pointwhere I had to stop doing astrology
readings because the inaccurate,it's, it's very archetypal astrology,
which is part of why I love it, but.
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Human design is so granular, so specificthat I, I was, I was just preferential.
I, I just preferred it somuch more because it was
such a, very specific system.
And you know, I will say likeevery other tool it has, its.
You know, I, I tend to work with the womenthat tend, that I tend to work with, and
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I don't only work with women, but themajority of people I work with are women,
are either early stage entrepreneursthat are spiritual entrepreneurs who
are trying to figure out how to getthis thing up and running and are.
Looking at how everyone else is doing itand realizing it doesn't work for them,
or entrepreneurs that are, have beendoing it, running their business a certain
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way and have hit the wall, or they'reso burnt out, they're, you know, mm-hmm.
They're so not.
Fulfilled.
It's not growing the way that it, that'ssustainable for them energetically.
They're feeling disillusioned by it.
So those tend to be the two typesof people that I mostly work with.
And it is when we always start with humandesign and then, you know, that's where we
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start with and we look at understanding,you know, where are you out of alignment?
Where are you in yourconditioning, where are you?
Trying to be something you're not.
How can we come back to beingyour most authentic self?
First and foremost, moving out ofyour shadow stuff, moving out of
your lower frequency, like where areyou tangled up in your programming?
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Where are you tangled up in an idea ofwhat's supposed to be versus who you are.
And also looking at, you know, whatdo you need to heal within yourself?
And then, so then we start looking atenergetics and personal development.
And I really believe you cannotdo one without the other.
You can't, if you want to be, youknow, I love entrepreneurship so much.
I've, I've built three companies now.
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It is my heart.
I mean, I love my kids and my family.
That's my heart first.
But then second to that isentrepreneurship, because it's such an
extension of our own personal growth.
Like, we will learn more about ourselvesthrough going all in on our businesses
than most anything else because it'sour walking heartbeat out there, right?
And we're trying to figure out howto grow it and be it, and it's,
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which means that what we're reallytrying to do is understand how to
be the biggest, best version of us.
And that's always what it comes downto, which is why ultimately a lot
of this work is energetics and, anduntangling where we're caught up.
Like what are the moneywounds playing out here?
What are your core relationalwounds that are playing out here?
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Like how is it that your stuff with your.
Parents are getting projectedonto what happens when a client
doesn't book with you again.
'cause that's the stuff that comesup and that's part of what has to get
healed in order to, to move forward.
And then strategy.
And that's again, as likea five, as a five line.
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I love strategy, I really do.
And I think that there'salways a strategy that can.
Can best support someonebased on their energy, right?
Based on their energy and their desireto grow and scale their company.
There's always an aligned strategyand sometimes people just can't see it
because they're too busy looking at theway they think it's supposed to be done.
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no, definitely.
I think, uh, one question that I'm kindof hearing in my head for, for audience is
what are maybe like two things in there?
Chart that they can look at thatcan kind of help them either in
business, family or whatever.
Like I know you said the profilecan be a really potent area.
Can you kind of explain a littlebit more, not like going over every
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single one, 'cause I know there's somany of them, but just in general,
like how that can be helpful forsomeone to look that up along with
their, their type.
Right.
So your energy type will helpyou understand how you use
your energy in your life.
and of course your business beingan extension of that, if you're
out of alignment, then you'llget burnt out and then the whole
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thing doesn't work out very well.
Your profile is, like when you, likewhat is the simplest answer for this?
So It's the indicator that's part of,it's the number that's part of your
conscious sun and your unconscious sun.
So in human design, there are gates.
Trying not to get too granular here,but if you pull your human design chart,
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you'll see there are these long columns.
One on each side.
At the top you'll see you'll have agate, and then the gate will be like.
You know, twenty-four 0.2.
And it's that too, that conscious line.
This is when you look at yourconscious line, that first line in your
profile, this is how you see yourself.
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So this is the, so what are your profiles?
So I'm a five, one.
I'm a one three.
Oh, okay.
Great.
Well, we have all one lines.
This is amazing.
So like that, so that conscious sign.
So Payton a one for you and Shayla,five for you and I, That's the part that
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we recognize within ourselves, right?
We recognize that like for thefive line I, we recognize that we
have innate leadership qualities.
We just do.
We recognize that we love, we arehere to solve people's problems.
We are here to fix things.
We are here to come in withpractical solutions to help.
Solve problems.
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That one line Payton for you.
That one line is you'reincredibly knowledgeable.
You've spent your life studying andunderstanding things, and you know that
part of what you're here to do is toteach and share that with other people.
And you know that when you look inthe mirror, you recognize the one
line in you, that second line that'spart of our unconscious sun and that.
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The unconscious part.
What is so fascinating to meis it's often the part that
we hold the most shadow with.
That is the hardest for us to fullyembody within ourselves, to fully
step into the power of like own it.
but it's the part that otherpeople recognize in us.
I.
So readily, so Shayla for youand I, that's our one line.
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And that is the part where we know alot of things about a lot of things
and we're actually here to share.
But I don't know about you, but forme, that's been one of the hardest
things to overcome, to feel like I'mnot ready to talk about what I know.
I don't know.
Can I take another course,read another book, get another
degree, do something that.
I am not qualified.
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I think I said this at the very,before we even started recording, I
said, I am not an expert on anything.
I am just an eternal student.
That is the shadow of my one line.
I'm, I will always defer to I'm,I'll take eight more courses.
Thank you.
Before I, before I.
And then that three line is, youknow, you are here to lead and teach
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through trial and error through allthe life experiences that you have.
And three lines are amazing.
They have so much grit they're,they've got, so they just, they they's
an analogy they talk about in humandesign where you like bounce, you just
sort of bounce off the walls of life.
You don't ever really fall down.
You're really strongbecause you're here to.
experience everything and it's neverabout was it successful or not, it's
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always just about the experienceand the this right experience
leads to the next right experience.
And often your quote unquote, failuresare the greatest experiences that you're
here to teach us through, but the shadowof that three line can be, I don't wanna
do it 'cause I know it's gonna fail.
I don't wanna, I'm too afraid it couldhave failed because I have a track record.
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Mm-Hmm.
Right?
Instead of, oh, my power is as much inmy failure as it is in my success because
this is, this is why people are soattracted to me, is because I've had all
these incredible experiences and the restof us aren't judging you the way you are.
We're just like, oh my gosh, tell me more.
And actually I find that when three linestalk about their failures, those are the
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most magnetic stories they have to tell.
Oh, I've got a couple good stories.
Yeah.
And so it's so like when, so I reallyencourage people to pull their human
design chart and it should hopefully tellyou what your profile is and then you
can like look, just do some research.
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I also have posts on my Instagram pagewhere I break down, you know, lines in
lots of different ways and just lookat, you know, where am I in the higher
frequency of my conscious self andmy unconscious self, and where am I
still playing in the lower frequency?
I constantly have to just.
Kick my own butt andsay, just talk Christy.
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It'll be okay.
Even though you're scared to share,just you've done enough research, keep
talking and it's, you know, and sothe more we, the more we own all of
our power, the, the more magnetic webecome, the more we can be of service.
and the more we actually comeinto alignment in our business.
Because it starts to clarify for ushow we're here to support other people.
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I.
Well, I'm excited for you to relisten tothis episode because the way you deliver
information, the way you've explainedit all, you have taken a very, I love
people that can take very complicatedand complex systems, especially in.
Spiritual world that not everyone's,exposed to and can deliver it and
give it to people in a way that'sdigestible and, easy to understand.
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Even those of us that know a lot of thislingo, like sacral and all these things,
like you've, you know, you've explainedit very well to where I feel like I'm
even walking away from this conversationwith more knowledge than I had coming in.
So, so thank you very much and Ireally appreciate you going over.
Those aspects of human design.
'cause I know for me, you know, alot of us get our information from
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scrolling through or exposure fromscrolling through, you know, whatever
social media platform we are on.
And anyone that I've, scrolled over thatdiscusses human design, those are the
words that you see as like generator, youknow, the profile lines and all of this.
So, I think that will help maybe peoplethat are just, uh, starting to understand
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this world, maybe understand it alittle bit better as to what that means.
So I really appreciateyou sharing that all.
where is it on Instagram thatour listeners can find you?
My company is called This SacredLife, so it's this sacred life on
Instagram and my website is the same.
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And it's because it's what I'm mostpassionate about is helping people
really come into alignment, right?
Move out of all of the stories thattell them they're not good enough
and not brilliant enough, and not.
Amazing enough and release all ofthat conditioning and step fully
into their personal power and stepfully into their deep love of self.
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And from there it's really findtheir vocational path, right?
And really learn howthey're here to serve.
I talk to so many people who are like,I know it's something more, right?
I know I'm supposed to bedoing Mm-Hmm, something bigger,
something more, and I just can't.
Find out how to figure, how do Ifigure this whole thing out and right.
(44:35):
And it's so funny 'cause when I sit withthose people often what happens is you
just start to like, scratch the surface.
You start to, and tap like,like reflect back human design.
It just sh holds up a mirror, right?
I'm just gonna show youhow brilliant you are.
And then they're like, ah.
I am brilliant.
I, I I, everything you said I knew, but Ididn't know, but I did know I'm brilliant.
(44:58):
And then from from there, they're able to
start to get clear on like,
okay, yes, now you're brilliant.
Now what do you desire?
What do you want?
This is a playground, this human life.
It's, it's incredible.
It is a gift to be alive.
It is the we, we forget oftenwe get so caught up in our.
fears and the, the pressureand how hard it can be.
(45:20):
And it, it can be, there's a lotof suffering and a lot of pain.
Mm-Hmm.
And also there's so much beauty and somuch joy just in the most mundane moments.
And just the, just the knowing that I can.
Sit here and take a breath.
And I have the blessing of sittinghere with the two of you and like,
how wild is it this human life?
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And so the more that peopleanchor into that and remember how
brilliant they are, and then youstart to give them a path forward,
it's, it's pretty amazing what can
happen.
And it reminds people of their worthiness.
Because if you have these things that,if you've had failure or you feel that
things aren't working out, but thenyou start to understand why that is,
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then that can then become not partof the narrative as to what's wrong.
It's, oh, this is just who Iam and I am worthy of, 'cause
I have these other aspects.
I am worthy of doing what it is I want.
I am worthy of things working out for me.
you know, and I think with, with.
I would say most of us that are in thespiritual world, offering services to
serve for people, that tends to be, atleast that's my deep reasoning for it.
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I love being able to remindpeople of their worthiness.
That's a journey I had to take.
And that's where the, that's wherethings really started to open up for me
was when I started to heal that piece.
so yeah, I think this is a, a fascinatingway to, to be able to do that for people.
yeah, I mean, and that's what it was forme too, was remembering my own heart,
my own deep self love, my own magic,my own, my own gifts of just being me.
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And that, you know, and human design talksso much about the conditioning because
it recognizes, it's literally a systemthat recognizes when you are not your.
Self, you cannot be fully expressed.
You cannot be fully of service.
You cannot be fully in love with yourself.
And like, I can only hold spacefor people and help people to the
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capacity at which I can help myself.
So it all comes back to selfover and over and over again.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's an amazing tool.
We're, we're blessed to have it.
It's pretty remarkable.
Thank you so much.
And like Payton said, you justhave a beautiful way of expressing
everything and kind of liningit up for people to understand.
(47:36):
So listeners are.
I hope, get a spark of excitementfor this and check you out and
see what you have to offer.
And you're also having, we have apodcast, but you're revamping it, so
you're going to be doing a lot more of,you're just talking about human design.
Right.
So do you wanna, maybe just before we go,just talk a little bit about that as well.
Yeah, so I started a podcast lastsummer and I did a flurry of episodes
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and they were all me interviewingother people, which I loved because I
find human beings absolutely rivetingand fascinating, and I could sit
and interview people all day long.
But I also recognized I was hidingin the shadow of my one line.
I was so scared to step fullyinto my power and teach,
which is what I'm here to do.
(48:20):
And I was, I was so scared.
So I just didn't, and I dressed itup as, oh look, I did this amazing
thing with this amazing podcast.
And then I was like, well, shoot.
I was too scared.
So now I've actually pulled the podcastepisodes and I may put them out again
later, but I want to, Start again from aplace of recognizing the gifts that I have
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to share and start by sharing them, andthen I can go back to interviewing people.
But again, it, it really comes back tolike my entrepreneurship journey is how
can I be the greatest version of myself?
How can I keep healingand expanding and growing?
And that's the work.
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And the more I do that, themore people I can help Really.
Amazing.
So that's exciting.
I'm so excited for that because like,I love the way you explain things,
so I'm excited for you to bring yourknowledge and what you've learned
over the years and I think it's gonnajust be amazing and really help so
many people, get in alignment withthemselves and, you experience that.
And de-programming andde-conditioning of everything.
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So I'm excited for that to come out.
So everybody, keep youreyes open for that.
Follow her on Instagram andthat will be out at some point.
So yeah.
Thank you so, so much forThank you being with us today.
We really appreciate it.
Oh well.
I feel so grateful.
Thank you both.
Yes.
Thank you.
One more thing before we go.
I just wanna, what are programs that,if people are wanting to work with you,
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what are some programs that you offer?
I know you offer some mentorship.
if you wanna just give our listenersa, a rundown of what it is that you
do offer if someone's willing to work
with you.
So I do have a single, human design.
Session for, uh, where people cancome in and have that single session.
and then I also have, a human designfor Entrepreneurs package where it's two
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sessions and in that first session it'sreally where you get reflected back your.
Brilliance in that first session, reallydeeply understanding where your, who you
really authentically are, where you'restuck in your conditioning and in your,
the lower frequency of yourself, of yourauthenticity and you know, and how you
can then give you skills and tools to moveinto the highest frequency of yourself.
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Your connect in.
Another, another way to say that isconnect to your most authentic self.
and then that second session, wetake that human design chart and we.
Basically deconstruct it with yourbusiness in mind and look at, you know,
how can we better understand your brand,your target market, your culture, your
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niche, your brand messaging and humandesign is a spectacular tool for helping
us to understand these parts of ourbusinesses, and when we're in alignment
with, when we really understand our energyand we can create our business in a way
that matches what people desire from us,like it's what we desire, what is most
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authentic to us, and what, how the worldperceives us and what they desire from us.
And when you put that formula together.
Then there's alignment, right?
Then people are like, ah, you arethe person I've been looking for.
You are the one.
I recognize that in you becauseyou are aligned and it's aligning
with my desire and my expectations.
So I.
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So that second session isreally fantastic for that.
and then I also offer, I do three-monthand six-month mentorship packages.
And that's a lot of my work right now isit's both, it's helping entrepreneurs.
You know, build andscale their businesses.
And then I also help, people justreally tap into their personal
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power, like people who haveforgotten themselves along the way.
I, I grew up with a lot of,people-pleasing and codependency.
And, and so I find that I attracta lot of people that are like,
I recognize these patterns.
How do I move out of this now?
And so I also do a lotof personal development,
mentorship around all that too.
Your magic, complete magic.
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1000 thank yous.
Like, uh, we appreciateyou being here so much.
This was so phenomenaland, uh, just exciting.
I feel like we could have wentfor hours on this conversation, so
the fact we were able to like, getthat in an hour, it's phenomenal.
So thank you again so much, Christy,and we just, we love you and Anyone
wants to connect with her, please findher on her website or on her Instagram.
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Thank you.
Thank you both so much.
Thank you.
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Okay, so we are really, really excitedtoday because we have Christy on.
Christy is this amazing, just human being.
So I've worked with her for quitea while, like podcasting, and
This is the first time that Paytonactually meeting her in person.
but she does human design.
She's all about alignment.
(01:05):
One word that comes up thatyou just said before when we
were talking is deconditioning.
So just really findingyour authentic self.
you've had multiple businesses in yourlife that have been successful, and
I'm very fascinated by that becausethey're so different and you've
somehow just come into alignmentnow with like what you're doing now.
And I think it's interestingto see like your background.
So I feel like we have so much to talkabout and hit on with you because.
(01:29):
you're just fascinating to me.
but also I just really wanna haveour listeners get a little bit of
an understanding on human design andkind of what it's, and how it can help
them in their life in different ways.
Because there's so manyways that it can be helpful.
So you specialize in a lot of like,business stuff and alignment, and
even just like personal developmentand all of that amazing stuff.
(01:49):
So I'm gonna just get youto kind of talk about.
Your personal development with it, likehow did you even get into human design?
What was your journey?
Before we started, you mentioned likethe easiest thing, and this is like the
gateway for a lot of people is mediumship.
It was an easy thing to hop intoand kind of find out, but then
it took you to different places.
So I'd love you to just share kindaa little bit what you were sharing
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before with us, um, when we'rerecording, just like about your
journey and all of that good stuff.
Well, absolutely.
And thank you both for having me on.
I'm honored to be here.
I'm so, I'm just such a big fansof both of you, so thank you.
Oh, thank you.
Um, we're fans of you.
Yeah.
Even though this is the first time,this is the first time you and I
have connected, so I, I was justexcited about that before we got on.
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We were talking like, we know a lot ofthe same people and we've heard about
each other through all these people,but we've yet to actually connect.
So, um, I'm, I'm very gratefulthat you, you're here today, so.
This is a fun way to finallyget to hang out with you.
So I'll take it.
It's great.
Exactly.
There you go.
so I actually came to human design,through my development journey.
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so I'll just, I'll back up for a second.
So what human design is, 'causethat will help with context is it's,
it's a synthesis of these ancient.
Forms these ancient modalities.
It's a synthesis of the I Ching,the Kabbalah, astrology, the
chakra system, and quantum physics.
And it's this really sort of magicalcombination of all of these modalities.
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And it was, there's a, a fa afascinating backstory and I would
encourage anyone to, to Google it.
It's longer than what I'll get intoright now, but it was a channeled
system that came through, for a man.
and it's a wildly accurate system.
And I have been a student of aastrology my entire life since I was
a teenager and on my development path.
So my development path,I've, I've been a very open.
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person.
Spiritually my whole life I'vebeen a, a channel and a medium and
very psychic and very energeticallysensitive my entire life, but very
scared and deeply in the closet.
Like deeply de I was so sure if peoplereally understood what I was experiencing,
that I would get locked up forever.
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And, and because of that, whatI didn't recognize is that.
When you walk with that consciousnessof, I can't tell anyone, I'm gonna
get locked up forever, then that's,that's a, a sign in and of itself
that everything's gonna be okay.
Right.
And what I realized as I was throughmy entrepreneurship journey, because
I've built multiple businesses.
I was leaning on these.
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energetic tools more and more.
So I was leaning on my, abilityto tune in, as a channel.
I was leaning on all of these modalities,but I was still deep in the closet
and so scared and then I felt likeI was cheating the system 'cause I'm
like, oh man, like winning awards.
If anyone finds out why I amgonna get in so much trouble.
I really like a young child's response.
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Right?
I was like a six-year-old as anadult, so afraid of getting caught.
And so in my early forties, as part ofmy personal development path, as part of
my, like I've been in therapy off and onmy whole life, I've worked with shamans.
I've done all of this developmentwork to be the best version of myself.
I recognize that I could never be fullywhole be the complete, authentic version
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of me until I dealt with this part ofme And to be honest, it took me years
and it took a lot of baby steps of likebaby stepping out of the closet and
working with healers and working withguides and baby stepping each year a
little bit more and a little bit more.
And then finally, I think, wait, whenI met Danielle, which is where we all
know each other, I was ready to really.
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Take a giant step and claim this formyself and say, okay, I am ready to be
public and I'm ready to under, like,deeply understand this part of myself
in a public way instead of behind closeddoors with like one healer saying, sh
don't raise your voice, don't tell anyone.
And the easiest thing to startwith was mediumship because
it felt the most tangible.
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I'd been having mediumisticexperiences my entire life.
It was a very, This might sound sofunny, but of all of the eso like.
Of all of the things, it was theone that felt the most human right.
It was the one that felt the mostthree-dimensional, like part of our world.
I love, love that.
'cause I'm connecting withyour grandmother, right?
I'm connecting with your alllike, it's like I, this is what I.
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Your uncle looks like, and this is thestory he told me about, the experience he
had with you when you were a little boy.
Like, it's so evidential.
It's so part of our, I don't wannacall it mundane, but you know,
it's part of our material world.
You know, I can, when I go into therecords and we can talk about, you
know, the energetic blocks from yourearly childhood and your ancestral.
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Trauma and your past life.
Like, then we start gettingmuch more woo Right.
Levels of woo.
Right?
And so, um, so I started with mediumship,but then very quickly I, I moved into the
Akashic records, which was, It's like,I call it like energetic Google, right?
Like, like it's, it's a form ofchanneling where I can go into a, a
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high vibrational field where there isno time where everything is happening
in the now, and it's just the abilityto tune in like a radio frequency.
I just tune into that frequency whereeverything is happening in the now and in
that now I'm able to receive information.
That happens what we would call inour world like across all timelines.
Except it's all happening now.
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This gets weirder.
Mm-Hmm.
So I won't go down thatroad, but you're good.
But what I found was in thoseconversations, like in those channeling.
Experiences I was beingbrought information about
astrology and human design.
They kept coming forward and I waslike, we are mixing too many modalities.
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Like this is, it felt like wewere pulling from, and so I was.
I was having these really holistic,energetic experiences where there's
a component of mediumship and we'rein the Akashic records, and then
astrology is coming forward andhuman design is coming forward.
And one of the things that Danielleteaches actually was that so much of her
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development path was Spirit-led, right?
And so just trusting thatthe information that's coming
through is the next right step.
So.
I was a good student.
I was like, alright,let's go next, right step.
I'll take it.
Here we go.
Here we go.
And so I started to createoffers that were a synthesis.
which was the next rightstep for me at the time?
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It did not last for foreverbecause it became too much.
But this, uh, I would offer thesesessions where it would be all,
it would be all these things.
We're gonna look at your astrology, yourhuman design, and Akashic records, and
during the Akashic records sessions,I'm sure that your ancestors will also
step through all of this in an hour.
Come sit with me.
And it was great and it was potent,and also it was way too much and it
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was energetically also really intense.
So it was a lot.
Oh, I bet.
For me to hold it, it, it was a lot forthe sitter was like, wow, this is like.
Like energetic healing,right Through Firehose.
It was a lot.
It was a lot.
So the title
wave of Woo,
right?
It was, that is a great title for a numberof things, but it's like a podcast book.
(09:14):
Yeah.
So many things.
If you need a book title,yeah, it's lots, right?
Um, so, from there, I was working moreand more and more with human design,
and what was fascinating to me was Ireally started spending time with human
design to understand my own business.
And that was the lens throughwhich I was really focused.
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I had worked on my own alignmentthrough human design, and that was
something I'd been experimentingwith for some time by that point.
And I, you know, was using it as aparenting tool with my kids, which is.
Really what I think its core purposeshould be or is in many ways, because
it's quite brilliant as a way todeeply understand your children and
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foster their own authentic nature andnot, impose your own stuff on them.
but then when I really started touse it to understand how to get clear
on my business because I was feelingstuck, I was feeling really confused.
It was like unlocking some magical likeresource that I hadn't understood and I
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dove deep into this work and I am, I am,Shayla was mentioning this when we were
talking before we started recording, butI'm a five-one in human design and so.
Those are the profile lines andthat you know that five is all about
leadership and practice and offeringpractical solutions to people.
And that one line is allabout deep, deep research.
And I will go down every rabbithole and learn all of the things
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that I'm passionate about.
And so I became this really devotedstudent to understanding how to apply
human design engine keys to business.
And when I did that, it unlockedmy own understanding of what
I'm here to do in my business.
And everything sort ofmagically fell into place.
And then I start, and thenI brought it to my clients.
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I actually first brought itto my friends, so then I would
just go to people and say, Hey.
Can I, can I give you a reading becauseI'm, I think I've figured this thing out.
I think I'm starting to understand thisand I, I wanna see if this tracks for you.
And then for them, things startedmagically falling into place and
there was just a level of clarity.
And I think for entrepreneurs,especially for spiritual
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entrepreneurs, it's a very delicate.
Space because it's weird to turn yourdevotional practice, your service,
your, you know, your heart-led wayto serve and help others into a
commodity that doesn't feel very good.
It feels right in a lot of ways.
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It feels out of alignment.
It feels like it's not so, like I'mnot supposed to start, you know, making
Facebook ads to say, come get my reading.
Like it feels yucky.
It doesn't feel like it's an integrity.
It feels like there should justbe a magical unfolding that
the right people will come.
And I do believe there is some of that.
But I also believe in this day and agewhere we are in an online space and we're
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no longer living in a tribal community.
Which is, you know, how we areinnately built to live, we're innately
built to live in these communities.
that we, because we don't have thatanymore in the same way and we're
so isolated, there really isn't anopportunity To have a reciprocal
relationship with our people, right?
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In a community.
We're recognized for the gifts we have.
Those gifts are received, and then wereceive support in exchange, and it's
a beautiful reciprocal relationship.
And now instead we're in our littleboxes in our Zooms all by ourselves
trying to post on Instagram and say hi.
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I wanna help people, anyone, right?
And it, it feels hard and.
Uncomfortable and, uh, and weird.
And, and so what I learned throughhuman design is that there's actually
a really beautiful way of being inalignment with how you're here to serve.
And there's a way to cultivateyour brand and your messaging and
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your, you know, the, the entire.
Experience of your business in a waythat more effortlessly attracts the
people that it's meant to attract.
So it doesn't have tofeel yucky and weird.
It actually starts to feel,magical and reciprocal.
It's like, oh, when I shine mylight and I do it in this certain
way that is most authentic, then mypeople start to see me and find me.
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That was a long answer andI'm not sure that was so good.
I'm like, I can, I'm just sitting here.
I'm like, I can keep listening.
Like, no, it's fascinating and thank youbecause you really covered like a lot
of areas that, I had questions for youfor, so one thing that I love that you
said, is how you, 'cause I think this isgood for anyone on the development path,
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regardless of what modality you're using.
you said you really jumped intohuman design to understand yourself
better so that then you were ableto better than serve other people.
And I think that is a great messagefor, anyone, whatever you're beginning,
whatever you're getting into.
Use it to help like heal your road andthen it will help like you then see the
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path that you're supposed to follow.
so that's great.
So thank you for sharing that and
saying that.
Can I add just one more thing tothat because Of course, please.
I was like, un, I did notthink in a million years that
this is what I would be doing.
And even when I entered Danielle'sworld, I did not think I was going
to be a professional anything.
I was like, I would just like to becomfortable with myself and under
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deeply understand this part of me.
And it was, there is an unfolding thathappens on the development path, I think.
Mm-hmm.
Where we really learn tolove ourselves along the way.
And I think it's a process and Iwish more people understood like
that's really what's happening andwhether you jump into, right, yeah.
I'm gonna turn it intoa business right away.
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Or whether you're like, no, I justwanna be developing and developing.
Either way.
Ultimately, what you're reallylearning is before I can serve anybody
else, how can I deeply love myself?
A hundred percent.
It is such a journey within likeit's, that's like the most beautiful,
sometimes the most challenging part,you know, because, I just had this
conversation earlier in a reading.
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I had a client, that's beginningher path and I said, you know,
it's the most magical thingyou're ever gonna experience.
'cause all these parts of you thathave been a part of you your whole
life are finally gonna get illuminatedand you're finally going to get to see
what it really is and connect with it.
I said, but you know, thereis challenge there because.
As it's gonna, it's gonna be a journeywithin, and if there's anything
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that needs mended, that's gonna comeup to the surface and you just, I
mean, you, you walk through it andthat ends up also becoming a very
magical and beautiful part of it.
As you, as you continue on.
So, no, that's great.
I, I love that you brought that up.
'cause I think that's a, a verygood reminder for everyone.
so with human design now, I, youtalked a lot about how this had, this
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helped benefit and strengthen Yourrelationship with your businesses and
how you were moving with through those.
I'm, I'm assuming then maybe thathelped you move away from some as
you began to understand yourselfbetter and how it is you work better
and you could apply that better.
when I had my human designreading, That was something that
was really a, a lot of it for me.
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I was able to apply to my,'cause I'm also an entrepreneur.
I was able to apply to howI proceed in that world.
so let's see.
I am a manifesting generator, soI wanna talk because there's four.
And what is the label forthose for, um, energy types.
Energy types.
Four energy types.
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Thank you.
Five.
So, um, and I would,I would, there's five.
Okay.
So I would love for you to explainwhat those are and, for, for our
listeners, but with everythingelse, it's a very layered cake.
There's a lot to human design,so it's not just that piece.
But, with mine, one thing that Ihad really taken away from it was,
it was saying, you know, being amanifesting generator, I'm able to.
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Bring forth what it is that I am,I'm seeing and I'm foreseeing and
I'm wanting, and it's better that ifI just, if I let it come to me, it
works in a better flow than if I wereto go out and try to conquer these
things and find these solutions.
It's better to know what it is I wantand then wait for it to come to me
and then go after it, and it was just.
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When I was told that, and then Ilook back at every aspect of my
life, I'm like, that has alwaysbeen how things have worked for me.
Like no matter what it was, whenever,if I try too hard to make something
happen, it just, it, there was alwaysresistance, but if I just knew what
it was I wanted and waited for it, I.
It would eventually come.
so, you know, I very much recommendgetting one of these, especially
if you are in the business world,because it is, just a reminder or a
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confirmation or a validation of maybeexperiences you had been having.
So, if you would please explain,those five different types.
Absolutely.
Um, so for our listenerscan become familiar.
So your energy type is, and it is,there are levels and layer, there's
so much information with human design.
So, but your energy type is, youcan think of it as the energy with
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which you're moving through life.
And so there are, I, I put themin, there's two categories.
There's what I would callsacral and then non-Sacral.
And so your sacral is, is what's calledthe motor center and it's how you respond.
And so, generators and manifestinggenerators, are often grouped
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together as one of the four,which is why I say five because.
Ah, okay.
In my experience, generators andmanifesting generators are similar
because they're sacral and they'rehere to respond to life, but there are
differences in how their energy works.
so there's manifesting generatorsand then there's generators,
and a manifesting generator hasan energy that is, it's very.
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I in, in its most aligned, it'svery playful, it's very creative.
It's, it's very expressive andit, it tends to move in like
big bursts of energy, right?
It like, has a big burst.
It moves and then it sort of needsto rest for a minute, and then
another big burst and then it rests.
And, then a generator is, and, andthey, they say with a manifesting
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generator that you're here to.
To do multiple things, like you'llhave a life that's very, varried.
You'll have, you'll end up doing a lotof things in your life, even at one time.
You'll always have multiplethings that you're focusing on.
and if not, you tend to getquite bored and stagnant.
I.
So it's an energy thatreally likes to move.
And the generator is, again,it's that sacral, but it's here
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to be a master at something.
So there's whatever it isthat it gets really lit up by.
it's here to really focus on that.
And then, and then.
Then really dedicate itstime to mastering it.
And it doesn't mean, and I get thisquestion a lot where generators
are like, well, does that meanI can't do multiple things?
No.
But if you've ever watched, likewhen I watch a generator work,
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they do not wanna get bothered.
They want to stay focused.
They, they have their blinders on andthey're deeply passionate and they can
just go and focus on that one thing.
They can like push thatboulder uphill and not.
And not want to, and be annoyedif anything else, pulls 'em
away as a manifesting generator.
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A manifesting generator can be working onone thing, and then you bring something
else exciting to them that lights 'emup and they're like, Ooh, what else?
Ooh, what else?
And they're, they, they are morelike a puppy in that regard.
And I say that as a manifesting generator.
So I speak from my own truth.
Then you get into the non-Sacral.
And so when you look at the generatorsand the manifesting generators being
like that lit up, that that sacralenergy, if you think of the chakra
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system, right, this is, it's creativityand its passion and its sexuality.
It's that life force sacral.
And so that's what'sreally driving those two.
the non-Sacral, thatwould be your projector.
That would be your manifestorand your reflector.
And they're here torespond quite differently.
So instead of, responding like themanifestor is here to initiate.
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So, they talk about how.
Most of the rulers of kingdomsback in the day were manifestors,
like, that's manifestor energy.
It's here to just do the thing.
It's here to initiate its energy and,but not to have to follow through.
So it will, you know, start the thing, itwill start whatever the project is, but
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if you ask it to do all the minutia, allthe, the, the granular work, it's going
to get very burnt out very, very quickly.
So, That's when, when you look at likebusiness strategy, you wanna pair a
manifestor with a generator becausethen, right, you put those two energies
together and the manifestor initiatesand then the generator takes over,
and then you've got a machine that'sworking really, really effectively.
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Reflectors are completely open centers.
I'm trying to not get too deep into thisinformation for fear of confusing people,
but they say that a reflector is here towait and it like when making decisions,
when responding to life, they're hereto wait an entire lunar cycle, which
tends to cause a lot of anxiety forreflectors, and it's not that they have
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to for every decision in their life.
It's just that a reflectoris like a sponge.
So any environment that they're in,they sort of, they take on the energy
of the environment because they're open.
And so in order to really make analigned decision, they want to have the
time to move through different Mm-Hmm.
Environments to measure theirresponse through these different.
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Environments because if not, if theymake it too soon, then they haven't,
really understood themselves withoutexperiencing more of their life.
Trying so hard not to get toointo the details, but you're
doing great.
You're doing great.
No, I think that's, yeah,
because it's complicated.
There's lots of layers to it, of course.
Um, um, it was a big question.
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I know.
And well, and then I, Iproject and I think what's.
Tricky is that it is just one part, right?
So like of course a manifesting generatorthat has a certain profile and has
some centers open and some centersdefined is gonna be very different
than a different manifesting generator.
It's a little like withastrology and like.
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One Taurus sun is gonna bedifferent than another Taurus Sun
based on all of their placements.
And I think just like in popastrology, we can start, you know,
stereotyping and I think it canbe the same for, human design.
And so a lot of the work that Ido in human design is to focus on.
sort of the, the more like theincarnation cross and the profile to
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really deeply understand how is theenergy moving through your system
and how are you receiving the worldand how is the world receiving you?
And that's when it getsreally, really fascinating.
Yeah.
But, uh, I digress.
The last one is projector.
So the last energy type is projector and.
I love projectors.
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Projectors in business are amazing whenthey're in alignment because projectors,
they're really here to be recognized fortheir gifts, and I think projectors, it's
one of the hardest energy types to master.
in, especially in business, but justgenerally in life because when a
projector isn't recognized for theirgifts, they get bitter and they
very, they can be like, forget it.
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Just nobody notices.
Nobody cares.
Never mind terrible.
But, but what is amazing is thatwhen a projector really starts with
themselves, going back to what wewere saying about self-love, when
a projector recognizes themselves.
Really falls deeply in love withthemselves and their gifts and their
service to the world, and really deeplyembodies that when they do that first
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and do it fully, and then they juststart to show up in the world and
shine their light from that knowingthey become the brightest light.
So in some ways it's thehardest path because it takes
that deep self-recognition.
But when they get it.
It's pretty magical becauseprojectors are here to guide us.
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They're our guides.
Okay.
Well that was a lot ofamazing information.
It was a lot of information.
I know.
I'm so great information.
No, it's perfect.
I think this is a really good startfor people to kind of understand it
because it can feel so complicatedtoo when you, especially when you
do your chart and you look at itand you're like, what is going on?
So that can be a first littlething to kind of look into.
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And while you're speaking.
I'm like, oh my gosh, likeyou're talking about projectors.
I'm like, that's my husband.
And then you're talkingabout the manifester energy.
And I had to laugh becauseI just instantly got this
memory of me with my son.
So I'm a generator and he is like sixyears old and he just always has these
like ideas and things he wants to do.
And so one of them was a costume.
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He wants to make a Thomas a train costume.
So into it like, you need to getme this paint now we have to go
right now to the store and get it.
I go, I do all the things.
I'm like working hard.
I'm helping and paint it.
By the time it's finished.
He's like, okay.
He is like done with it andhe onto the next costume idea.
Like, but that was just like an exampleof like, he has this like manifestation,
this dream he wants to do right.
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And he just so eager todo it and so excited.
But then.
The in-between stuff, he is notnecessarily like, okay, I wanna do it, but
he wants to see the end result and it kindof needed me to to bring him into that.
Right.
So yeah, I thought that wasreally funny, just kind of
hearing the different dynamics of
each.
Well, and so when, we look atbusiness, and I'm gonna connect
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this to children in a second.
'cause when we look at business,I, I have a lot of people that
come to me and they are burnt out.
They're exhausted, and they're like, I,how do I, this is, can't be this hard.
Like how do I do this differently?
And it's because they've beenconditioned to show up in the world
a certain way and we've really beenconditioned to show up as generators.
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it's, that's the dominant energytype in on this planet is generator.
And in the industrialized educationsystem, we are taught to be generators.
You start a thing, you gotta finish it.
You show up every day.
You are consistent.
You follow through, you beresponsible for the thing.
The, you know, we're really, and wepraise generators in our society, but it
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doesn't, it only works for generators.
And so it doesn't work formanifesting generators.
It certainly won't work andprojectors more than anyone.
They're the ones that I sit with themost that are just, they're like, I
don't wanna do any of this ever again.
This is so awful.
Even though this is my heart, thisis my passion, like I know it's how
I'm here to serve, but this wholesystem, I watch how everyone else
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is working and it's not working forme, and I don't know what to do.
Do I just burn the wholething down and walk away?
No, of course not.
It's just you can work like aprojector can do more in four
hours than a generator can.
In 12, A manifestor can create, has thislike bright spark that they get this
giant creative spark and they're like.
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That spark changes the world, right?
Like this is how we invent things.
We just have this like giant, like Ihave a knowing I have an inspiration, and
now we need all the other people to comeand support it and bring it to fruition.
So yeah.
Yeah, it's, I love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think as like a generator too, likeyou said, that's the most common one.
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That, and it kind of ishow the world is run.
And I think it's interesting because.
Now we can see like differentelements of each other and that
there's no wrong way to do it.
It's just a different way.
So when I'm in my generator tailspinof like, and that's the thing
where sometimes I have a hard timestarting to work because I know
once I start, I, I can't stop.
Like I literally can't stop.
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it comes helpful sometimes, like whenI had to move two years ago, I was
up for thirty-seven hours straight.
And everyone else crashed aroundme and I was like, thank God.
But I think sometimes we could havethis judgment towards each other, like,
why aren't you thinking the same way?
Or like workingenergetically the same way.
And so it could be really helpful tolearn about these different things,
not just your own, because then youhave family members and you know, then
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you understand more people that you'reworking with in business and it just
creates this energetic flow that can bereally helpful to understand one another.
So that's what.
I think is really cool about that.
I think my next questionor sorry, go ahead.
Oh, I was
just gonna say really quickly, theother thing that's really interesting,
like eventually one day I will alsodo work with families because I
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use human design for my kids allthe time and it's so powerful.
But one of the things that'salso interesting to look
at is the family system.
And actually it's the same in business.
You look at a business system and youlook at how everyone is plugging into
everyone's energy because you knowyour generator energy is impacting your
son's manifest or energy and vice versa.
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Mm-Hmm.
So when you guys are right and,and you plug into that and what's
fascinating In human design is you canreally look at how energetically you
are completing one another and whatthe synthesis of your two charts is.
And it's, it's absolutely fascinating.
Fascinating.
And It's, it's great to solve likeworkplace issues or family systems issues.
(30:40):
Yeah.
When you start to see, oh.
We're triggering each other because ofthese mislaid expectations, or we're
projecting on each other because of,and it really helps you understand, you
know, one of the things I love abouthuman design is it's very masculine.
It's a very masculine systemsbased, which makes my five lines
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so happy because it's so practical.
It's a system, it's a, it's soblack and white in that regard.
Right.
And it's a, it's a map.
It's just a.
A very clear map, and I find, you know,I, I can now, to work with profiles.
I find profiles are the mostinformative snapshot of someone,
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even more than energy types.
It's, it's pretty remarkable.
just as you were talking and going throughthis, I'm like, I know so many people.
Maybe it's, well, nothing's a coincidence,but I think since the pandemic, I
think one thing it caused a lot ofpeople to do is to stop and think
like, what is happening in the world?
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Where am I going?
What do I wanna do?
And I think it opened this door.
That a lot of people are reallytrying to figure out how they fit
and how they work in this world asit continues to keep ever changing.
So I just keep seeing like, what anamazing tool to be able to offer people.
And like you said, it's structured,there's, there's a system in place to it.
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It's there know.
When you have it explained toyou and you're going through it,
you can see why it is the way itis and it just connects so well.
Like what an amazingtool to be able to have.
If you are in this moment of like,I know I need to do something, maybe
I'm not sure what that's gonna be.
So then maybe it leads you towards like,well, you need to be doing something that
helps, you know, reflect your strengths.
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Or, I have this thingalready, but it's not working.
How do we, you know, how do weunderstand each other better?
so that we can get this, the,the energy flowing better or just
for, to get it to work better?
So it, I can imagine I don't havechildren, but I know the both of you do.
So I can only imaginethat this would also work.
Amazing with, raising little ones.
So it's, yeah, I just think it'sfascinating and I think a lot
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of people really could benefitfrom it in, in so many ways.
Yeah, it is.
It's really, and, and it, it's atool, like it's just one more tool.
It's a wildly accurate one.
I, I actually got to the pointwhere I had to stop doing astrology
readings because the inaccurate,it's, it's very archetypal astrology,
which is part of why I love it, but.
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Human design is so granular, so specificthat I, I was, I was just preferential.
I, I just preferred it somuch more because it was
such a, very specific system.
And you know, I will say likeevery other tool it has, its.
You know, I, I tend to work with the womenthat tend, that I tend to work with, and
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I don't only work with women, but themajority of people I work with are women,
are either early stage entrepreneursthat are spiritual entrepreneurs who
are trying to figure out how to getthis thing up and running and are.
Looking at how everyone else is doing itand realizing it doesn't work for them,
or entrepreneurs that are, have beendoing it, running their business a certain
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way and have hit the wall, or they'reso burnt out, they're, you know, mm-hmm.
They're so not.
Fulfilled.
It's not growing the way that it, that'ssustainable for them energetically.
They're feeling disillusioned by it.
So those tend to be the two typesof people that I mostly work with.
And it is when we always start with humandesign and then, you know, that's where we
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start with and we look at understanding,you know, where are you out of alignment?
Where are you in yourconditioning, where are you?
Trying to be something you're not.
How can we come back to beingyour most authentic self?
First and foremost, moving out ofyour shadow stuff, moving out of
your lower frequency, like where areyou tangled up in your programming?
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Where are you tangled up in an idea ofwhat's supposed to be versus who you are.
And also looking at, you know, whatdo you need to heal within yourself?
And then, so then we start looking atenergetics and personal development.
And I really believe you cannotdo one without the other.
You can't, if you want to be, youknow, I love entrepreneurship so much.
I've, I've built three companies now.
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It is my heart.
I mean, I love my kids and my family.
That's my heart first.
But then second to that isentrepreneurship, because it's such an
extension of our own personal growth.
Like, we will learn more about ourselvesthrough going all in on our businesses
than most anything else because it'sour walking heartbeat out there, right?
And we're trying to figure out howto grow it and be it, and it's,
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which means that what we're reallytrying to do is understand how to
be the biggest, best version of us.
And that's always what it comes downto, which is why ultimately a lot
of this work is energetics and, anduntangling where we're caught up.
Like what are the moneywounds playing out here?
What are your core relationalwounds that are playing out here?
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Like how is it that your stuff with your.
Parents are getting projectedonto what happens when a client
doesn't book with you again.
'cause that's the stuff that comesup and that's part of what has to get
healed in order to, to move forward.
And then strategy.
And that's again, as likea five, as a five line.
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I love strategy, I really do.
And I think that there'salways a strategy that can.
Can best support someonebased on their energy, right?
Based on their energy and their desireto grow and scale their company.
There's always an aligned strategyand sometimes people just can't see it
because they're too busy looking at theway they think it's supposed to be done.
(36:31):
no, definitely.
I think, uh, one question that I'm kindof hearing in my head for, for audience is
what are maybe like two things in there?
Chart that they can look at thatcan kind of help them either in
business, family or whatever.
Like I know you said the profilecan be a really potent area.
Can you kind of explain a littlebit more, not like going over every
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single one, 'cause I know there's somany of them, but just in general,
like how that can be helpful forsomeone to look that up along with
their, their type.
Right.
So your energy type will helpyou understand how you use
your energy in your life.
and of course your business beingan extension of that, if you're
out of alignment, then you'llget burnt out and then the whole
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thing doesn't work out very well.
Your profile is, like when you, likewhat is the simplest answer for this?
So It's the indicator that's part of,it's the number that's part of your
conscious sun and your unconscious sun.
So in human design, there are gates.
Trying not to get too granular here,but if you pull your human design chart,
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you'll see there are these long columns.
One on each side.
At the top you'll see you'll have agate, and then the gate will be like.
You know, twenty-four 0.2.
And it's that too, that conscious line.
This is when you look at yourconscious line, that first line in your
profile, this is how you see yourself.
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So this is the, so what are your profiles?
So I'm a five, one.
I'm a one three.
Oh, okay.
Great.
Well, we have all one lines.
This is amazing.
So like that, so that conscious sign.
So Payton a one for you and Shayla,five for you and I, That's the part that
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we recognize within ourselves, right?
We recognize that like for thefive line I, we recognize that we
have innate leadership qualities.
We just do.
We recognize that we love, we arehere to solve people's problems.
We are here to fix things.
We are here to come in withpractical solutions to help.
Solve problems.
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That one line Payton for you.
That one line is you'reincredibly knowledgeable.
You've spent your life studying andunderstanding things, and you know that
part of what you're here to do is toteach and share that with other people.
And you know that when you look inthe mirror, you recognize the one
line in you, that second line that'spart of our unconscious sun and that.
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The unconscious part.
What is so fascinating to meis it's often the part that
we hold the most shadow with.
That is the hardest for us to fullyembody within ourselves, to fully
step into the power of like own it.
but it's the part that otherpeople recognize in us.
I.
So readily, so Shayla for youand I, that's our one line.
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And that is the part where we know alot of things about a lot of things
and we're actually here to share.
But I don't know about you, but forme, that's been one of the hardest
things to overcome, to feel like I'mnot ready to talk about what I know.
I don't know.
Can I take another course,read another book, get another
degree, do something that.
I am not qualified.
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I think I said this at the very,before we even started recording, I
said, I am not an expert on anything.
I am just an eternal student.
That is the shadow of my one line.
I'm, I will always defer to I'm,I'll take eight more courses.
Thank you.
Before I, before I.
And then that three line is, youknow, you are here to lead and teach
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through trial and error through allthe life experiences that you have.
And three lines are amazing.
They have so much grit they're,they've got, so they just, they they's
an analogy they talk about in humandesign where you like bounce, you just
sort of bounce off the walls of life.
You don't ever really fall down.
You're really strongbecause you're here to.
experience everything and it's neverabout was it successful or not, it's
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always just about the experienceand the this right experience
leads to the next right experience.
And often your quote unquote, failuresare the greatest experiences that you're
here to teach us through, but the shadowof that three line can be, I don't wanna
do it 'cause I know it's gonna fail.
I don't wanna, I'm too afraid it couldhave failed because I have a track record.
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Mm-Hmm.
Right?
Instead of, oh, my power is as much inmy failure as it is in my success because
this is, this is why people are soattracted to me, is because I've had all
these incredible experiences and the restof us aren't judging you the way you are.
We're just like, oh my gosh, tell me more.
And actually I find that when three linestalk about their failures, those are the
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most magnetic stories they have to tell.
Oh, I've got a couple good stories.
Yeah.
And so it's so like when, so I reallyencourage people to pull their human
design chart and it should hopefully tellyou what your profile is and then you
can like look, just do some research.
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I also have posts on my Instagram pagewhere I break down, you know, lines in
lots of different ways and just lookat, you know, where am I in the higher
frequency of my conscious self andmy unconscious self, and where am I
still playing in the lower frequency?
I constantly have to just.
Kick my own butt andsay, just talk Christy.
(42:02):
It'll be okay.
Even though you're scared to share,just you've done enough research, keep
talking and it's, you know, and sothe more we, the more we own all of
our power, the, the more magnetic webecome, the more we can be of service.
and the more we actually comeinto alignment in our business.
Because it starts to clarify for ushow we're here to support other people.
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I.
Well, I'm excited for you to relisten tothis episode because the way you deliver
information, the way you've explainedit all, you have taken a very, I love
people that can take very complicatedand complex systems, especially in.
Spiritual world that not everyone's,exposed to and can deliver it and
give it to people in a way that'sdigestible and, easy to understand.
(42:49):
Even those of us that know a lot of thislingo, like sacral and all these things,
like you've, you know, you've explainedit very well to where I feel like I'm
even walking away from this conversationwith more knowledge than I had coming in.
So, so thank you very much and Ireally appreciate you going over.
Those aspects of human design.
'cause I know for me, you know, alot of us get our information from
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scrolling through or exposure fromscrolling through, you know, whatever
social media platform we are on.
And anyone that I've, scrolled over thatdiscusses human design, those are the
words that you see as like generator, youknow, the profile lines and all of this.
So, I think that will help maybe peoplethat are just, uh, starting to understand
(43:32):
this world, maybe understand it alittle bit better as to what that means.
So I really appreciateyou sharing that all.
where is it on Instagram thatour listeners can find you?
My company is called This SacredLife, so it's this sacred life on
Instagram and my website is the same.
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And it's because it's what I'm mostpassionate about is helping people
really come into alignment, right?
Move out of all of the stories thattell them they're not good enough
and not brilliant enough, and not.
Amazing enough and release all ofthat conditioning and step fully
into their personal power and stepfully into their deep love of self.
(44:14):
And from there it's really findtheir vocational path, right?
And really learn howthey're here to serve.
I talk to so many people who are like,I know it's something more, right?
I know I'm supposed to bedoing Mm-Hmm, something bigger,
something more, and I just can't.
Find out how to figure, how do Ifigure this whole thing out and right.
(44:35):
And it's so funny 'cause when I sit withthose people often what happens is you
just start to like, scratch the surface.
You start to, and tap like,like reflect back human design.
It just sh holds up a mirror, right?
I'm just gonna show youhow brilliant you are.
And then they're like, ah.
I am brilliant.
I, I I, everything you said I knew, but Ididn't know, but I did know I'm brilliant.
(44:58):
And then from from there, they're able to
start to get clear on like,
okay, yes, now you're brilliant.
Now what do you desire?
What do you want?
This is a playground, this human life.
It's, it's incredible.
It is a gift to be alive.
It is the we, we forget oftenwe get so caught up in our.
fears and the, the pressureand how hard it can be.
(45:20):
And it, it can be, there's a lotof suffering and a lot of pain.
Mm-Hmm.
And also there's so much beauty and somuch joy just in the most mundane moments.
And just the, just the knowing that I can.
Sit here and take a breath.
And I have the blessing of sittinghere with the two of you and like,
how wild is it this human life?
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And so the more that peopleanchor into that and remember how
brilliant they are, and then youstart to give them a path forward,
it's, it's pretty amazing what can
happen.
And it reminds people of their worthiness.
Because if you have these things that,if you've had failure or you feel that
things aren't working out, but thenyou start to understand why that is,
(46:03):
then that can then become not partof the narrative as to what's wrong.
It's, oh, this is just who Iam and I am worthy of, 'cause
I have these other aspects.
I am worthy of doing what it is I want.
I am worthy of things working out for me.
you know, and I think with, with.
I would say most of us that are in thespiritual world, offering services to
serve for people, that tends to be, atleast that's my deep reasoning for it.
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I love being able to remindpeople of their worthiness.
That's a journey I had to take.
And that's where the, that's wherethings really started to open up for me
was when I started to heal that piece.
so yeah, I think this is a, a fascinatingway to, to be able to do that for people.
yeah, I mean, and that's what it was forme too, was remembering my own heart,
my own deep self love, my own magic,my own, my own gifts of just being me.
(46:55):
And that, you know, and human design talksso much about the conditioning because
it recognizes, it's literally a systemthat recognizes when you are not your.
Self, you cannot be fully expressed.
You cannot be fully of service.
You cannot be fully in love with yourself.
And like, I can only hold spacefor people and help people to the
(47:15):
capacity at which I can help myself.
So it all comes back to selfover and over and over again.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's an amazing tool.
We're, we're blessed to have it.
It's pretty remarkable.
Thank you so much.
And like Payton said, you justhave a beautiful way of expressing
everything and kind of liningit up for people to understand.
(47:36):
So listeners are.
I hope, get a spark of excitementfor this and check you out and
see what you have to offer.
And you're also having, we have apodcast, but you're revamping it, so
you're going to be doing a lot more of,you're just talking about human design.
Right.
So do you wanna, maybe just before we go,just talk a little bit about that as well.
Yeah, so I started a podcast lastsummer and I did a flurry of episodes
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and they were all me interviewingother people, which I loved because I
find human beings absolutely rivetingand fascinating, and I could sit
and interview people all day long.
But I also recognized I was hidingin the shadow of my one line.
I was so scared to step fullyinto my power and teach,
which is what I'm here to do.
(48:20):
And I was, I was so scared.
So I just didn't, and I dressed itup as, oh look, I did this amazing
thing with this amazing podcast.
And then I was like, well, shoot.
I was too scared.
So now I've actually pulled the podcastepisodes and I may put them out again
later, but I want to, Start again from aplace of recognizing the gifts that I have
(48:44):
to share and start by sharing them, andthen I can go back to interviewing people.
But again, it, it really comes back tolike my entrepreneurship journey is how
can I be the greatest version of myself?
How can I keep healingand expanding and growing?
And that's the work.
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And the more I do that, themore people I can help Really.
Amazing.
So that's exciting.
I'm so excited for that because like,I love the way you explain things,
so I'm excited for you to bring yourknowledge and what you've learned
over the years and I think it's gonnajust be amazing and really help so
many people, get in alignment withthemselves and, you experience that.
And de-programming andde-conditioning of everything.
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So I'm excited for that to come out.
So everybody, keep youreyes open for that.
Follow her on Instagram andthat will be out at some point.
So yeah.
Thank you so, so much forThank you being with us today.
We really appreciate it.
Oh well.
I feel so grateful.
Thank you both.
Yes.
Thank you.
One more thing before we go.
I just wanna, what are programs that,if people are wanting to work with you,
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what are some programs that you offer?
I know you offer some mentorship.
if you wanna just give our listenersa, a rundown of what it is that you
do offer if someone's willing to work
with you.
So I do have a single, human design.
Session for, uh, where people cancome in and have that single session.
and then I also have, a human designfor Entrepreneurs package where it's two
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sessions and in that first session it'sreally where you get reflected back your.
Brilliance in that first session, reallydeeply understanding where your, who you
really authentically are, where you'restuck in your conditioning and in your,
the lower frequency of yourself, of yourauthenticity and you know, and how you
can then give you skills and tools to moveinto the highest frequency of yourself.
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Your connect in.
Another, another way to say that isconnect to your most authentic self.
and then that second session, wetake that human design chart and we.
Basically deconstruct it with yourbusiness in mind and look at, you know,
how can we better understand your brand,your target market, your culture, your
(50:52):
niche, your brand messaging and humandesign is a spectacular tool for helping
us to understand these parts of ourbusinesses, and when we're in alignment
with, when we really understand our energyand we can create our business in a way
that matches what people desire from us,like it's what we desire, what is most
(51:17):
authentic to us, and what, how the worldperceives us and what they desire from us.
And when you put that formula together.
Then there's alignment, right?
Then people are like, ah, you arethe person I've been looking for.
You are the one.
I recognize that in you becauseyou are aligned and it's aligning
with my desire and my expectations.
So I.
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So that second session isreally fantastic for that.
and then I also offer, I do three-monthand six-month mentorship packages.
And that's a lot of my work right now isit's both, it's helping entrepreneurs.
You know, build andscale their businesses.
And then I also help, people justreally tap into their personal
(51:58):
power, like people who haveforgotten themselves along the way.
I, I grew up with a lot of,people-pleasing and codependency.
And, and so I find that I attracta lot of people that are like,
I recognize these patterns.
How do I move out of this now?
And so I also do a lotof personal development,
mentorship around all that too.
Your magic, complete magic.
(52:20):
1000 thank yous.
Like, uh, we appreciateyou being here so much.
This was so phenomenaland, uh, just exciting.
I feel like we could have wentfor hours on this conversation, so
the fact we were able to like, getthat in an hour, it's phenomenal.
So thank you again so much, Christy,and we just, we love you and Anyone
wants to connect with her, please findher on her website or on her Instagram.
(52:44):
This, sacred Life.
Thank you.
Thank you both so much.
Thank you.
Feel so honored to be here.
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