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August 5, 2021 16 mins

Bobbie McKay was called to the ministry during the 1960s when it was rare for a woman to be ordained in the Methodist Church.  Not to be deterred, she was ordained and went on to have a career that included pastoral counseling, starting an experimental church and pursuing a major research study on "God Experiences" that she partnered with George Gallup to complete.  In this episode, our co-host Rev. Beth Long-Higgins invited her own pastor, Rev. Beth Gedert to discuss their backgrounds as pastors, in light of three generations of female clergy.

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