February 13, 2024 • 30 mins
You may know him (like I did) from the popular "Reacher" series, but it turns out there's even more to Alan Ritchson than his ability to portray a swoony character with formidable strength and investigative prowess.
He stars, alongside Hilary Swank, in the heartwarming movie, Ordinary Angels, in theaters February 23. Based on a true story, Alan portrays a recently widowed husband and father with a critically ill child, determined but struggling. And he does so brilliantly.
Pull up a chair and join us as we talk about the movie and so much more! You'll learn some fascinating things about this real-life hunky but humble husband and dad that just might inspire you be a better version of yourself. And if you don't already, you'll realize there are "ordinary angels" walking among us. ~ Delilah
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
January has come to a close. We are here in
the month of Valentinees in February, and I am a
bit dumbfounded. How did that happen so quickly? Weren't we
just stressing out over the holidays. Winter weather has finally
arrived at my farm too. We've had wind, We've had rain,
We've had more wind, lots of wind, power outages, snow,
(00:28):
a little ice, enough inclement crud to make me giddy
thinking of the coming spring and my gardens. But that
right now is a long way off. What are we
going to do with ourselves for the rest of this
winter season. Maybe you'd like to go take in a movie.
I have a recommendation. Ordinary Angels is out in theaters
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February twenty third, and it is phenomenal. It's based on
a remark true story in Stars Academy Award winner Hillary
Swank and Alan Ritson of the Reacher series. Alan continues
to make an undeniable mark as an actor, writer, producer, director.
(01:15):
He's currently in production on the third season of Reacher,
a massive success. Three days after its premiere, it was
number one. It surpassed its entire season one audience by
fifty percent. Within that time, maintaining its title as one
of Prime Video's most binged original series ever. He's got
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a first look film deal and a separate three picture
deal for acting with Amazon MGM Studios. Alan recently wrapped
production on his leading role in the Guy Ritchie World
War II film for Lionsgate called The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare,
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and is also set to rep prize his role as
Aims in the untitled eleventh installment of the Fast and
Furious blockbuster franchise from Universal Pictures. But today, today, today,
Alan Ritson, the handsome, talented Alan Ritson, is here here
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to give us all the details on the Lionsgate drama
Ordinary Angels that's set to open February twenty third. I
am so excited for this conversation. But since Ordinary Angels
is actually a sponsor of this podcast this very one,
can I just spend a little minute more telling you
a little bit more about this film. Winter weather is
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perfect weather for family movie night, and I have a
recommendation for you. Boy, do I have a recommendation for you.
It's called Ordinary Angels. It's based on a remarkable true story.
That's the I love this so much. I mean it's
a great movie, but the fact that it happened and
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it's a true story is really what will blow your mind.
It centers on Sharon. Sharon is played by Hillary Swank
as a fierce but struggling hairdresser in small town Kentucky
who discovers a renewed sense of purpose when she meets Ed,
played by Alan Richson. Ed is a widower working hard
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to make ends meet for his two daughters, and his
youngest daughter is gravely ill she needs a liver transplant. Sharon,
the hairdresser, sets her mind to helping this family and
will move mountains to do it. What unfolds is the
inspiring tale of faith, everyday miracles, and ordinary angels. Swank
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was quote drawn to this beautiful true story because it's
such a powerful reminder that angels reside everywhere among us.
Ritson says he quote believed that sometimes we just need
to be reminded of the power of what we can
do together. It's in theaters now, so while the weather
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isn't good for much else, it's perfect for watching Ordinary Angels.
A sure winner with family and friends. Visit Ordinary Angels
dot movie for more information. So with Me today, I
love someone as someone I absolutely love. I love your acting,
I love your instatchurch post, I love you, oh, thank
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you pictures of your kids, your boys, and your wife.
And I really love the new movie Ordinary Angels. Ellen Ritchson,
Welcome to the Delilah Show.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm glad you
enjoyed the film.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I loved the film. I said this earlier and I
will repeat it. I was surprised when I heard that
you and Hillary Swank were the two ours, because I
had read a little synopsis of what the movie is about.
And the movie is about a family, a tragedy, A
young husband loses his wife, and at the same time
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he's losing his wife, he's losing his daughter to a
terrible disease and she needs a transplant. And it's a
story of an ordinary angels, of common everyday people living
life with all of its heartache and problems. And I
could not picture Reacher. I could not picture you be
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in there to shoot your.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Way out of this. You can't shoot your way out
of this premise.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Exactly, or jump in a black Hawk, and you know,
hang by your fingernails and and and swing over a
great divide. But Alan, I got to say you nailed it, dude.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh, thank you so much, thank you. Yeah, it was uh,
you know, I I had to I had to fight
for the part a little bit, you know. Read Sure.
Season one had just come out and it's as if
the entire town was waiting to see what the results
would be. And within forty eight hours it was like
one of the most watched shows ever ever.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right, I was a part of that phenomenon, Thank you
very much. And it's funny because I usually don't watch
like violent shows. That's my husband, he's the shoot him
up you know, he was a copy So what.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Is it that you so you're so what do you
watch for you? Okay, all the silent moments between the fights?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's so so by Monday, you know, it
came out on a late Thursday or Friday, and by Monday,
my inbox was had exploded with offers from some of
the most legendary producers and studios in town, and a
lot of it like action stuff, just like what we've
been doing. And then there was this little script called
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Ordinary Angels that I read and of all of this,
I mean, I have fifty offers and I said, this
is what we have to do. It's this to be
able to do Reacher and then tell a true story
that is so heartbreaking and so uplifting and inspiring. This
is I think this is the direction that we go,
and Lionsgate was supportive of it, but they wanted me
(07:20):
to sit down with John Gunn, the writer director, who's brilliant.
He's a brilliant guy and he's very honest, and so
when we sit down, he was like, I gotta be
honest with you, man, You're not who I pictured at
all for this. And I was like, I also am
not who I picture when I read this, but I
know I can do this. And I think there's something
interesting about the fact that you have somebody who's fully
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capable physically of moving mountains in a way, and yet
nature doesn't allow it, and life is so difficult that
it's crippling even somebody who seems like they would be
you have it all figured out. I think there's something
even more tragic about the juxtaposition of that, and I
think maybe we can use that a little bit, you know,
(08:03):
and after you know, a little more convincing and cajoling,
you know, he came around and we decided to do it,
and he took a real risk bringing me into do it,
and so did Hillary. You know, when we got Hillary
on again, I'm still a relative unknown to a lot
of people. Reacher was kind of a breakout thing for me,
you know. So she took a risk, you know, working
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alongside somebody like myself as well, and I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, I was as surprised that they chose Hillary, I
think as I was that they chose you, because I
couldn't picture her playings a hot mess like that so beautifully.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Oh oh oh, she's so versatile. Yeah, I think it
was that was that seemed like the easy casting choice
to me. But but yeah, she did a phenomenal job.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
She was amazed. The whole movie was amazing. I want
to encourage people, especially I watched it with my family,
you know, they gave me a preview here at my house,
so I watched it with four or five of my kids,
and even my youngest, who seven, was crying. We were
all all sobbing crying. There not once. But there are
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so many places, pivotal moments in the movie. And because
I have spent the last you know, thirty plus years,
forty years of my life working with people who struggle
with addictions, and because I am no stranger to the
twelve step program, seeing that element, you know, and what
a big part of the storyline it was without being overbearing,
(09:41):
you know, seeing how the character that Hillary played faced
her demons and finally got honest with herself, right, I
was bawling.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, it takes a lot. It takes a lot to
reach the point where you can be honest with yourself,
to ask for help, to really confront the problem and
start saying no. And you know, I think when it
comes to alcohol, especially, my wife decided to do a
sober October five years ago, and I kind of just
by happenstance, I was like, I guess, I guess we're
(10:13):
not drinking for October because that's who's what's the fun
in that, you know, And that grew into this real
journey for her where she, you know, learned that this
industry wants you to believe that the only people who
stop drinking are those who have hit rock bottom, and
that is a lie that I think we're starting to
(10:35):
see the benefits of going against that that you don't
have to have like a rock bottom problem to say
like I actually I don't need that in my life.
I want to wake up with clarity. I want to
know that, you know, I'm not creating an anxiety you
know cycle in my life at like five pm every
(10:55):
day where my body's used to getting this depressant and
so it creates more cortisol and I I am feeling
anxious and like I need it, you know, but I'm
doing it to myself. And maybe if I did away
with that, I could just feel even throughout the day.
And you know, there's like a lot of positivity that
comes along with saying no before you hit rock bottom.
And it takes a lot of courage to do that.
You know, the amount of people that are like, you
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know when she's like, I don't drink, and they're like,
you're so strong, you know, it's so brave of you
to admit that you had a problem, and she like
didn't really have it, just just she just wanted to
have a different journey. So we're not all you know,
like we're not all Hillary's character. Not all of us
have to hit rock bottom before they start to make
those changes. And I think this opens up a pathway
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to a conversation that maybe people that aren't quite that
far along can also make changes that are positive in
their own life.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And has she stuck to sober October through November, December, January,
February for the last podcasts.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Even though Yeah, even though I was like by Thanksgiving,
I was like, no, We're definitely going to have wine
on Thanksgiving, right, was like, actually, I think I'm gonna
I'm feeling pretty good. And then Christmas rolls around. I'm like,
how can we not have Christmas? And then New Year's
how can we not have a champagne toast? And She's like,
do we really need champagne to celebrate the coming of
this new year and our goals and our resolutions? And
(12:15):
I was like no, it's like okay, And then she
like hits that ninety day play. There's something called the
pink cloud. You know, ninety days, your body has cleansed
itself of the toxins that it stores up, and so
there's this moment of almost like ecstasy, like clarity, and
she goes, I really want to experience that, and she
eventually did around like ninety or one hundred days, and
(12:37):
that was it. That was like, She's never going back,
and I, you know, I had been along the ride
with her, so I guess I was like, I guess
I'm with you too. For me, you know, for me
not to make this whole thing about alcohol, but you know,
for me, one of the things that really really transformed
my thinking was that that idea of balance and the
imbalances that we create. You know, we understand. Everybody knows
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what it's like when you miss your coffee in the
morning and you're like, I haven't had my coffee yet.
You're not getting your cortisol because your body knows you're
going to give it caffeine, and so your body's excellent
keeping a homeostasis. So if it knows it's getting coffee
every day, it's not going to give you what you
normally get to wake up. But the same thing is
true for the depressant. So if you get if you
have alcohol on a kind of a regular basis, you're
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not going to be You're you're going to be creating
cortisol because the depressant's coming, and so you create anxiety
for yourself at the end of the day or whenever
that happens. And when I realized that as somebody with
bipolar that I was creating these great swings at the
beginning and the end of my day. And once I
had removed the alcohol, I like didn't need as much caffeine,
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and then I started to go maybe I peel that
back to it brought a lot of just a lot
of balance and energy to the to the fullness of
the day. You know. So I've been with her on
the journey too. I've learned a lot and I've benefited
by drafting off her good, good decisions.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So talk about this woman you've been on your journey
with for just a minute, Alan, because I googled you,
I looked up pictures of you and Kat and your boys,
and it seems like she's the real deal.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh she's She's as good as they come.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And you met her for real at a ballet class?
Is that for real?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah? Yes, we met So we were near a fine
arts college.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
How tall are you? How tall are you?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Six three sixty three?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And Reacher is actually six ' five I pay attention
to the script, But six ' three and you were
you were in ballet?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yes, yes, well so my pass in high school, I
felt like my path was going to be a music
theater degree, so ballet was a prerequisite. You know for
that program, and I was up for whatever I needed
to learn. I knew, you know, I'm not like I'm
I'm a good mover. I'm not like the best dancer
in the world, but I can. I can. I can
move through it, you know, just enough. It's it's a
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serviceable dance. So, you know, I was just willing to
go through what I had to do, and there was
so I started taking those college classes in high school
because I wanted to. I wanted to get it over with.
She was doing the same thing, but I thought she
was a college I just assumed like everybody was a
college student there. So she came in to teach the
second half of a semester because the teacher was like, so,
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Catherine's going to come in and teach you. She's a student,
but better at this dance than I am, so she'll
spend the rest of the semester teaching. And she walks
in and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm in
love and didn't speak to her for the entire semester
because I was afraid to talk to a college girl.
And then I find out she's she's a little younger
than me, and you know, when we finally spoke, and
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we weren't exclusive forever, but we dated for a summer,
and then we were friends for years and years, and
we eventually on each other again in our early twenties.
And I had kind of been around the world modeling
at the time and started to see a lot of
different people in a lot of different cultures, and I
just when we hung out again, it was like, what
am I waiting for? She's perfect?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And now together you have three boys? How old are
the boys?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
We've been married for seventeen years. We have an eleven,
nine and an eight.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Year old, three boys, yet talk about how? Because when
I couldn't picture you as a dad in ordinary angels,
that's when I googled you, and then I saw all
these pictures of you as a dad, just a dad.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I'm an actual dad, just.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
A dad, not a dad trying to be impressive. Although
the cake, the chocolate cake you baked was probably the
worst cooking show I've ever seen in my life, but
just being a dad, And I went, that's probably why
they chose you. Not because you're so dang good looking,
not because you're reach it, not because you can jump
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out of airplanes, but because in real life. You're a
real dad, like you're there.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You know, being a father is the greatest gift in
the world. I think a lot of times. My wife
helps remind me of this. She's she's full of wisdom.
But I'm very ambitious. And it feels l like, you know,
God has given me a set of of skills and
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talents and and and a and a drive for this
career that we're looking at right and abs and also
and he gave me a more than two absy he
did and uh and with those abs we have created
a pretty big business. You know that that helps feed
a lot of people. And you know, there's like, you know,
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there's there's a lot that we're doing and a lot
that's coming out. And it's easy to tell yourself this
is the most important thing that I attend to, that
that this deserves my attention more than anything else in life.
And when I look at those kids and I think
about the issues that they face and the guidance that
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they need and the time that they deserve with their father,
is suddenly that becomes far less important. And so I
walk a tightrope where I somehow try to find a
balance between servicing this big business that we've created. You know.
Now I have a both a three picture deal and
(18:31):
a first look deal with Amazon. There's a lot of
content that we're creating, and I want to create a
lot of film and TV that is excellent and full
of high adventure and original And that takes a lot
of work, you know, And there's a lot of partnerships
involved in that, and that's all time consuming. And I
fight every day to find a way to elevate those
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boys and make them feel more important and more seen
than that business. And so I spend a lot of
time at home. There's very little that I do outside
the home when I'm not at work.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So are you still doing the living in bed and
breakfast and those sorts of things? I heard you sold
your home so the boys could be with you every day,
which I love, love that. Have you found a box
to live in with where you can put your toothbrush?
Or are you still doing the vagabond thing?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah? Well we are. We are very much on the road.
Even if we had three homes, we would never be
in them. That's the reason we sold our place in Florida.
We just I was there maybe a week out of
like a year year and a half because we have
been threading the needle between these jobs. It's like one
film into another film into a show and with like
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like I wrap on a Saturday morning and come Monday morning,
I'm in London filming another thing. I mean, there's no
time in between. I could if they if we set
them up in a community, at a school, a normal life,
I would never see them. So there are schooled. We've
decided it's best for us and it's definitely best for
me and my mental health. If I have my family
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there and I need them. I want to be a
part of their lives. It feels, you know, it feels
purposeless without them. If I'm just working and I never
see them, I start to wonder what it's for. And
so we travel together and that means a lot of
Airbnbs and a lot of hotels, and it means no
community for them. It means they have no friends. And
so there's a lot of struggle involved with us in
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figuring out how to kind of quickly generate some foundation.
When we go somewhere, we always hope that there's co
stars or somebody that has kids our age. You know.
One of my stun double Ryan Tarren, who's been a
real gift. He's been with me on the last several projects.
He goes with me everywhere. We've got kids the same age,
so that really helps.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Alan Ritson is spending some time with us today sharing
some insight into his latest projects and what's to come.
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Did they get to come and see you on the
set when you were filming Ordinary Angels? Were the boys
a part of that?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
No, No, I was alone. It was it was Winnipeg
and the harshest part of the winter, so it was
that was one of the last times that we did
it that way where I would sort of bolt off
and do one real quick. That project actually was one
of the last times we were like, you know, I
don't think it works anymore with me leaving and you know,
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you guys having your lives completely separate.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And I need you now, so before we go, I
read that there is a charity associated with Ordinary Angels
helping people with immense medical bills. Can you talk about that?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Oh? Yeah, ri ip medical.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yes, that's amazing, truly, I look like so, you know,
for context, this film is based on a true story.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It was about somebody fighting for the life of their
wife and sadly she passed away and the daughter came
down with a rare medical condition as well, and he
was fighting to keep his daughter alive. And can you
imagine the medical debt that was piling up for this
man who was a blue collar roofer. I mean, there
was just no tea stood no chance against that taking
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that mountain of debt down. And you know, part of
the journey is he had the you know, the ordinary
angel in his life. You know, she came along and
helped eliminate a lot of that debt and gave him
a real fighting at helping to continue to move the
needle forward for his daughter. And so I think that's
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something that I love that this film will inspire conversations
about this because it's ridiculous that we have. You know,
our pharmaceutical industry is set up the way that it
is to leverage itself fully against people who are in
deep need. You know, I work in Canada all the
time and there's a lot of criticisms on both sides
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of the aisle for the way things are set up.
But I got to be honest, when I'm there, I
envy the fact that everybody has these health cards and
nobody pays a dime out of pocket for anything that
they have to do.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And if you have a child that's dying, that child
will get life saving treatment. Yeah, Mike in the movie
where you're going to be denied a transplant based on economics?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Right? Truly? So I think we can do better. And
until we figure that out, the best thing that we
can do is to support companies like Rip Medical that
who are good at eliminating much more debt than the
money that they bring in. So for every dollar they raise,
they can eliminate one hundred dollars in medical debt for somebody,
And that adds up really fast.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Say that allan one more time for the people in
the back, because that is mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
For every dollar that you give to Rip Medical Debt,
they can eliminate one hundred dollars in medical debt for somebody.
So that can snowball really quickly. And it's something they're
good at and something that we need. And the breath
of fresh air that somebody can find at the end
of that relief is just it's really truly life changing.
And I'm so happy that they've joined us and that
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we can help make a difference in people's lives.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So for the cost of a cup of coffee, when
you go get a cup of coffee through a drive
through and a tip, you can eliminate a thousands, five.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
One hundred dollars thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I like the mocha frappuccinos, So you know that's
a thousand dollars worth of debt that can be eliminated
for a child who needs a kidney transplant, for a
father who needs a foot amputated. Whatever. Yes, yes, how
can somebody connect with them?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
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they can connect with rip medical debt and help relieve
something that hurts a lot of American families.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
We say that one more time. It is Ordinary Angels
Dot movie Forward slash Rip. What a beautiful thing, and
what a beautiful movie And the fact that you play
an ordinary dad and play it so well. I'm so
proud of you. And I was so blessed to get
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to to watch the movie and they get to talk
to you.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It was. It was such a gift to be able
to bring this real man in his story to life,
and I just I hope it inspires people to remember
that we're all broken in some way and it doesn't
mean that we can't inspire great, tremendous change in people's lives.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We are all broken in some way, and when we
can look at each other and our humanity, yeah, we
can move mountains. And that's what that whole movie is about.
That somebody raised their hand and said, I'm going to
take this on. I'm willing to move this mountain. I
am willing to move heaven and earth to save this
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little girl.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Think about if we all, if everybody who watches the
movie made that pledge, I am going to do something
to change the world, for one person, for one heart
at a time. Think of how much better the.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
World will be here. I can imagine it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Alan Ritson, thank you for being with us. I love someone.
It has been a delight and I'm so proud of you.
God bless you. God bless you, God bless cat, God
bless your boys, and God bless whatever he brings to you.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Thank you so much. It's grace with you.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Bye Bye. Ordinary Angels is anything but an ordinary story,
yet it is a beautiful demonstration of how ordinary people,
flawed people, broken people can do extraordinary things when their
hearts are full and their determination is undeterred. The main
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characters are brilliantly portrayed by Hillary Swank and Alan Richson,
and there are many supporting characters you will fall in
love with.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Also.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
It opens in theaters on February twenty third and is
a wonderful, inspirational, feel good film to watch with your
family and friends. You can learn more about it at
Ordinary Angels dot movie, and you can follow the film
on social media at Kingdom Story Company. Our guest today,
Alan Ritson is involved in so many projects and as
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an unashamed fangirl, I am such a fangirl. I want
to see them all. You can catch up with Alan
at Alandashrichson dot com, Alan Dash Richson, r itcchs win
dot com. But be sure to have a glass of
water or be near an open window, because woo, you're
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gonna get a little flashed. As our friend Leanne Morgan
would say, he is just so yummy. Oh my darling,
he is yummy. Experts say that keeping active is the
key to positive physical and mental health. It's tough this
time of year, though, isn't it. I find that if
I can just sneak out between the rain breaks or
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take a short walk, breathe in some fresh air, look
and listen closely to what surrounds me, to be present,
it is a real moodlifter. Arts and crafts projects get
me out of my head and into the physical world too.
What do you do to occupy yourself on dreary days?
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Besides taking in ordinary angels? Go to the theater February
twenty third, and of course tuning into my radio program
each and every night. Perhaps just taking each day as
it comes and remembering to slow down and love someone
will bring the sunshine to your heart.
January has come to a close. We are here in
the month of Valentinees in February, and I am a
bit dumbfounded. How did that happen so quickly? Weren't we
just stressing out over the holidays. Winter weather has finally
arrived at my farm too. We've had wind, We've had rain,
We've had more wind, lots of wind, power outages, snow,
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a little ice, enough inclement crud to make me giddy
thinking of the coming spring and my gardens. But that
right now is a long way off. What are we
going to do with ourselves for the rest of this
winter season. Maybe you'd like to go take in a movie.
I have a recommendation. Ordinary Angels is out in theaters
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February twenty third, and it is phenomenal. It's based on
a remark true story in Stars Academy Award winner Hillary
Swank and Alan Ritson of the Reacher series. Alan continues
to make an undeniable mark as an actor, writer, producer, director.
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He's currently in production on the third season of Reacher,
a massive success. Three days after its premiere, it was
number one. It surpassed its entire season one audience by
fifty percent. Within that time, maintaining its title as one
of Prime Video's most binged original series ever. He's got
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a first look film deal and a separate three picture
deal for acting with Amazon MGM Studios. Alan recently wrapped
production on his leading role in the Guy Ritchie World
War II film for Lionsgate called The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare,
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and is also set to rep prize his role as
Aims in the untitled eleventh installment of the Fast and
Furious blockbuster franchise from Universal Pictures. But today, today, today,
Alan Ritson, the handsome, talented Alan Ritson, is here here
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to give us all the details on the Lionsgate drama
Ordinary Angels that's set to open February twenty third. I
am so excited for this conversation. But since Ordinary Angels
is actually a sponsor of this podcast this very one,
can I just spend a little minute more telling you
a little bit more about this film. Winter weather is
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perfect weather for family movie night, and I have a
recommendation for you. Boy, do I have a recommendation for you.
It's called Ordinary Angels. It's based on a remarkable true story.
That's the I love this so much. I mean it's
a great movie, but the fact that it happened and
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it's a true story is really what will blow your mind.
It centers on Sharon. Sharon is played by Hillary Swank
as a fierce but struggling hairdresser in small town Kentucky
who discovers a renewed sense of purpose when she meets Ed,
played by Alan Richson. Ed is a widower working hard
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to make ends meet for his two daughters, and his
youngest daughter is gravely ill she needs a liver transplant. Sharon,
the hairdresser, sets her mind to helping this family and
will move mountains to do it. What unfolds is the
inspiring tale of faith, everyday miracles, and ordinary angels. Swank
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was quote drawn to this beautiful true story because it's
such a powerful reminder that angels reside everywhere among us.
Ritson says he quote believed that sometimes we just need
to be reminded of the power of what we can
do together. It's in theaters now, so while the weather
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isn't good for much else, it's perfect for watching Ordinary Angels.
A sure winner with family and friends. Visit Ordinary Angels
dot movie for more information. So with Me today, I
love someone as someone I absolutely love. I love your acting,
I love your instatchurch post, I love you, oh, thank
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you pictures of your kids, your boys, and your wife.
And I really love the new movie Ordinary Angels. Ellen Ritchson,
Welcome to the Delilah Show.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm glad you
enjoyed the film.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I loved the film. I said this earlier and I
will repeat it. I was surprised when I heard that
you and Hillary Swank were the two ours, because I
had read a little synopsis of what the movie is about.
And the movie is about a family, a tragedy, A
young husband loses his wife, and at the same time
(05:13):
he's losing his wife, he's losing his daughter to a
terrible disease and she needs a transplant. And it's a
story of an ordinary angels, of common everyday people living
life with all of its heartache and problems. And I
could not picture Reacher. I could not picture you be
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in there to shoot your.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Way out of this. You can't shoot your way out
of this premise.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Exactly, or jump in a black Hawk, and you know,
hang by your fingernails and and and swing over a
great divide. But Alan, I got to say you nailed it, dude.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh, thank you so much, thank you. Yeah, it was uh,
you know, I I had to I had to fight
for the part a little bit, you know. Read Sure.
Season one had just come out and it's as if
the entire town was waiting to see what the results
would be. And within forty eight hours it was like
one of the most watched shows ever ever.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right, I was a part of that phenomenon, Thank you
very much. And it's funny because I usually don't watch
like violent shows. That's my husband, he's the shoot him
up you know, he was a copy So what.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Is it that you so you're so what do you
watch for you? Okay, all the silent moments between the fights?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's so so by Monday, you know, it
came out on a late Thursday or Friday, and by Monday,
my inbox was had exploded with offers from some of
the most legendary producers and studios in town, and a
lot of it like action stuff, just like what we've
been doing. And then there was this little script called
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Ordinary Angels that I read and of all of this,
I mean, I have fifty offers and I said, this
is what we have to do. It's this to be
able to do Reacher and then tell a true story
that is so heartbreaking and so uplifting and inspiring. This
is I think this is the direction that we go,
and Lionsgate was supportive of it, but they wanted me
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to sit down with John Gunn, the writer director, who's brilliant.
He's a brilliant guy and he's very honest, and so
when we sit down, he was like, I gotta be
honest with you, man, You're not who I pictured at
all for this. And I was like, I also am
not who I picture when I read this, but I
know I can do this. And I think there's something
interesting about the fact that you have somebody who's fully
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capable physically of moving mountains in a way, and yet
nature doesn't allow it, and life is so difficult that
it's crippling even somebody who seems like they would be
you have it all figured out. I think there's something
even more tragic about the juxtaposition of that, and I
think maybe we can use that a little bit, you know,
(08:03):
and after you know, a little more convincing and cajoling,
you know, he came around and we decided to do it,
and he took a real risk bringing me into do it,
and so did Hillary. You know, when we got Hillary
on again, I'm still a relative unknown to a lot
of people. Reacher was kind of a breakout thing for me,
you know. So she took a risk, you know, working
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alongside somebody like myself as well, and I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, I was as surprised that they chose Hillary, I
think as I was that they chose you, because I
couldn't picture her playings a hot mess like that so beautifully.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Oh oh oh, she's so versatile. Yeah, I think it
was that was that seemed like the easy casting choice
to me. But but yeah, she did a phenomenal job.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
She was amazed. The whole movie was amazing. I want
to encourage people, especially I watched it with my family,
you know, they gave me a preview here at my house,
so I watched it with four or five of my kids,
and even my youngest, who seven, was crying. We were
all all sobbing crying. There not once. But there are
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so many places, pivotal moments in the movie. And because
I have spent the last you know, thirty plus years,
forty years of my life working with people who struggle
with addictions, and because I am no stranger to the
twelve step program, seeing that element, you know, and what
a big part of the storyline it was without being overbearing,
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you know, seeing how the character that Hillary played faced
her demons and finally got honest with herself, right, I
was bawling.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, it takes a lot. It takes a lot to
reach the point where you can be honest with yourself,
to ask for help, to really confront the problem and
start saying no. And you know, I think when it
comes to alcohol, especially, my wife decided to do a
sober October five years ago, and I kind of just
by happenstance, I was like, I guess, I guess we're
(10:13):
not drinking for October because that's who's what's the fun
in that, you know, And that grew into this real
journey for her where she, you know, learned that this
industry wants you to believe that the only people who
stop drinking are those who have hit rock bottom, and
that is a lie that I think we're starting to
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see the benefits of going against that that you don't
have to have like a rock bottom problem to say
like I actually I don't need that in my life.
I want to wake up with clarity. I want to
know that, you know, I'm not creating an anxiety you
know cycle in my life at like five pm every
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day where my body's used to getting this depressant and
so it creates more cortisol and I I am feeling
anxious and like I need it, you know, but I'm
doing it to myself. And maybe if I did away
with that, I could just feel even throughout the day.
And you know, there's like a lot of positivity that
comes along with saying no before you hit rock bottom.
And it takes a lot of courage to do that.
You know, the amount of people that are like, you
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know when she's like, I don't drink, and they're like,
you're so strong, you know, it's so brave of you
to admit that you had a problem, and she like
didn't really have it, just just she just wanted to
have a different journey. So we're not all you know,
like we're not all Hillary's character. Not all of us
have to hit rock bottom before they start to make
those changes. And I think this opens up a pathway
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to a conversation that maybe people that aren't quite that
far along can also make changes that are positive in
their own life.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And has she stuck to sober October through November, December, January,
February for the last podcasts.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Even though Yeah, even though I was like by Thanksgiving,
I was like, no, We're definitely going to have wine
on Thanksgiving, right, was like, actually, I think I'm gonna
I'm feeling pretty good. And then Christmas rolls around. I'm like,
how can we not have Christmas? And then New Year's
how can we not have a champagne toast? And She's like,
do we really need champagne to celebrate the coming of
this new year and our goals and our resolutions? And
(12:15):
I was like no, it's like okay, And then she
like hits that ninety day play. There's something called the
pink cloud. You know, ninety days, your body has cleansed
itself of the toxins that it stores up, and so
there's this moment of almost like ecstasy, like clarity, and
she goes, I really want to experience that, and she
eventually did around like ninety or one hundred days, and
(12:37):
that was it. That was like, She's never going back,
and I, you know, I had been along the ride
with her, so I guess I was like, I guess
I'm with you too. For me, you know, for me
not to make this whole thing about alcohol, but you know,
for me, one of the things that really really transformed
my thinking was that that idea of balance and the
imbalances that we create. You know, we understand. Everybody knows
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what it's like when you miss your coffee in the
morning and you're like, I haven't had my coffee yet.
You're not getting your cortisol because your body knows you're
going to give it caffeine, and so your body's excellent
keeping a homeostasis. So if it knows it's getting coffee
every day, it's not going to give you what you
normally get to wake up. But the same thing is
true for the depressant. So if you get if you
have alcohol on a kind of a regular basis, you're
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not going to be You're you're going to be creating
cortisol because the depressant's coming, and so you create anxiety
for yourself at the end of the day or whenever
that happens. And when I realized that as somebody with
bipolar that I was creating these great swings at the
beginning and the end of my day. And once I
had removed the alcohol, I like didn't need as much caffeine,
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and then I started to go maybe I peel that
back to it brought a lot of just a lot
of balance and energy to the to the fullness of
the day. You know. So I've been with her on
the journey too. I've learned a lot and I've benefited
by drafting off her good, good decisions.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So talk about this woman you've been on your journey
with for just a minute, Alan, because I googled you,
I looked up pictures of you and Kat and your boys,
and it seems like she's the real deal.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh she's She's as good as they come.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And you met her for real at a ballet class?
Is that for real?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah? Yes, we met So we were near a fine
arts college.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
How tall are you? How tall are you?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Six three sixty three?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And Reacher is actually six ' five I pay attention
to the script, But six ' three and you were
you were in ballet?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yes, yes, well so my pass in high school, I
felt like my path was going to be a music
theater degree, so ballet was a prerequisite. You know for
that program, and I was up for whatever I needed
to learn. I knew, you know, I'm not like I'm
I'm a good mover. I'm not like the best dancer
in the world, but I can. I can. I can
move through it, you know, just enough. It's it's a
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serviceable dance. So, you know, I was just willing to
go through what I had to do, and there was
so I started taking those college classes in high school
because I wanted to. I wanted to get it over with.
She was doing the same thing, but I thought she
was a college I just assumed like everybody was a
college student there. So she came in to teach the
second half of a semester because the teacher was like, so,
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Catherine's going to come in and teach you. She's a student,
but better at this dance than I am, so she'll
spend the rest of the semester teaching. And she walks
in and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm in
love and didn't speak to her for the entire semester
because I was afraid to talk to a college girl.
And then I find out she's she's a little younger
than me, and you know, when we finally spoke, and
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we weren't exclusive forever, but we dated for a summer,
and then we were friends for years and years, and
we eventually on each other again in our early twenties.
And I had kind of been around the world modeling
at the time and started to see a lot of
different people in a lot of different cultures, and I
just when we hung out again, it was like, what
am I waiting for? She's perfect?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And now together you have three boys? How old are
the boys?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
We've been married for seventeen years. We have an eleven,
nine and an eight.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Year old, three boys, yet talk about how? Because when
I couldn't picture you as a dad in ordinary angels,
that's when I googled you, and then I saw all
these pictures of you as a dad, just a dad.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I'm an actual dad, just.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
A dad, not a dad trying to be impressive. Although
the cake, the chocolate cake you baked was probably the
worst cooking show I've ever seen in my life, but
just being a dad, And I went, that's probably why
they chose you. Not because you're so dang good looking,
not because you're reach it, not because you can jump
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out of airplanes, but because in real life. You're a
real dad, like you're there.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You know, being a father is the greatest gift in
the world. I think a lot of times. My wife
helps remind me of this. She's she's full of wisdom.
But I'm very ambitious. And it feels l like, you know,
God has given me a set of of skills and
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talents and and and a and a drive for this
career that we're looking at right and abs and also
and he gave me a more than two absy he
did and uh and with those abs we have created
a pretty big business. You know that that helps feed
a lot of people. And you know, there's like, you know,
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there's there's a lot that we're doing and a lot
that's coming out. And it's easy to tell yourself this
is the most important thing that I attend to, that
that this deserves my attention more than anything else in life.
And when I look at those kids and I think
about the issues that they face and the guidance that
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they need and the time that they deserve with their father,
is suddenly that becomes far less important. And so I
walk a tightrope where I somehow try to find a
balance between servicing this big business that we've created. You know.
Now I have a both a three picture deal and
(18:31):
a first look deal with Amazon. There's a lot of
content that we're creating, and I want to create a
lot of film and TV that is excellent and full
of high adventure and original And that takes a lot
of work, you know, And there's a lot of partnerships
involved in that, and that's all time consuming. And I
fight every day to find a way to elevate those
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boys and make them feel more important and more seen
than that business. And so I spend a lot of
time at home. There's very little that I do outside
the home when I'm not at work.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So are you still doing the living in bed and
breakfast and those sorts of things? I heard you sold
your home so the boys could be with you every day,
which I love, love that. Have you found a box
to live in with where you can put your toothbrush?
Or are you still doing the vagabond thing?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah? Well we are. We are very much on the road.
Even if we had three homes, we would never be
in them. That's the reason we sold our place in Florida.
We just I was there maybe a week out of
like a year year and a half because we have
been threading the needle between these jobs. It's like one
film into another film into a show and with like
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like I wrap on a Saturday morning and come Monday morning,
I'm in London filming another thing. I mean, there's no
time in between. I could if they if we set
them up in a community, at a school, a normal life,
I would never see them. So there are schooled. We've
decided it's best for us and it's definitely best for
me and my mental health. If I have my family
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there and I need them. I want to be a
part of their lives. It feels, you know, it feels
purposeless without them. If I'm just working and I never
see them, I start to wonder what it's for. And
so we travel together and that means a lot of
Airbnbs and a lot of hotels, and it means no
community for them. It means they have no friends. And
so there's a lot of struggle involved with us in
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figuring out how to kind of quickly generate some foundation.
When we go somewhere, we always hope that there's co
stars or somebody that has kids our age. You know.
One of my stun double Ryan Tarren, who's been a
real gift. He's been with me on the last several projects.
He goes with me everywhere. We've got kids the same age,
so that really helps.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Alan Ritson is spending some time with us today sharing
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Did they get to come and see you on the
set when you were filming Ordinary Angels? Were the boys
a part of that?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
No, No, I was alone. It was it was Winnipeg
and the harshest part of the winter, so it was
that was one of the last times that we did
it that way where I would sort of bolt off
and do one real quick. That project actually was one
of the last times we were like, you know, I
don't think it works anymore with me leaving and you know,
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you guys having your lives completely separate.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And I need you now, so before we go, I
read that there is a charity associated with Ordinary Angels
helping people with immense medical bills. Can you talk about that?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Oh? Yeah, ri ip medical.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yes, that's amazing, truly, I look like so, you know,
for context, this film is based on a true story.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It was about somebody fighting for the life of their
wife and sadly she passed away and the daughter came
down with a rare medical condition as well, and he
was fighting to keep his daughter alive. And can you
imagine the medical debt that was piling up for this
man who was a blue collar roofer. I mean, there
was just no tea stood no chance against that taking
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that mountain of debt down. And you know, part of
the journey is he had the you know, the ordinary
angel in his life. You know, she came along and
helped eliminate a lot of that debt and gave him
a real fighting at helping to continue to move the
needle forward for his daughter. And so I think that's
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something that I love that this film will inspire conversations
about this because it's ridiculous that we have. You know,
our pharmaceutical industry is set up the way that it
is to leverage itself fully against people who are in
deep need. You know, I work in Canada all the
time and there's a lot of criticisms on both sides
(24:26):
of the aisle for the way things are set up.
But I got to be honest, when I'm there, I
envy the fact that everybody has these health cards and
nobody pays a dime out of pocket for anything that
they have to do.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And if you have a child that's dying, that child
will get life saving treatment. Yeah, Mike in the movie
where you're going to be denied a transplant based on economics?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Right? Truly? So I think we can do better. And
until we figure that out, the best thing that we
can do is to support companies like Rip Medical that
who are good at eliminating much more debt than the
money that they bring in. So for every dollar they raise,
they can eliminate one hundred dollars in medical debt for somebody,
And that adds up really fast.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Say that allan one more time for the people in
the back, because that is mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
For every dollar that you give to Rip Medical Debt,
they can eliminate one hundred dollars in medical debt for somebody.
So that can snowball really quickly. And it's something they're
good at and something that we need. And the breath
of fresh air that somebody can find at the end
of that relief is just it's really truly life changing.
And I'm so happy that they've joined us and that
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we can help make a difference in people's lives.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So for the cost of a cup of coffee, when
you go get a cup of coffee through a drive
through and a tip, you can eliminate a thousands, five.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
One hundred dollars thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I like the mocha frappuccinos, So you know that's
a thousand dollars worth of debt that can be eliminated
for a child who needs a kidney transplant, for a
father who needs a foot amputated. Whatever. Yes, yes, how
can somebody connect with them?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
So if they get Ordinary Angels Stop movie slash Rip,
they can connect with rip medical debt and help relieve
something that hurts a lot of American families.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
We say that one more time. It is Ordinary Angels
Dot movie Forward slash Rip. What a beautiful thing, and
what a beautiful movie And the fact that you play
an ordinary dad and play it so well. I'm so
proud of you. And I was so blessed to get
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to to watch the movie and they get to talk
to you.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It was. It was such a gift to be able
to bring this real man in his story to life,
and I just I hope it inspires people to remember
that we're all broken in some way and it doesn't
mean that we can't inspire great, tremendous change in people's lives.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We are all broken in some way, and when we
can look at each other and our humanity, yeah, we
can move mountains. And that's what that whole movie is about.
That somebody raised their hand and said, I'm going to
take this on. I'm willing to move this mountain. I
am willing to move heaven and earth to save this
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little girl.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Think about if we all, if everybody who watches the
movie made that pledge, I am going to do something
to change the world, for one person, for one heart
at a time. Think of how much better the.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
World will be here. I can imagine it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Alan Ritson, thank you for being with us. I love someone.
It has been a delight and I'm so proud of you.
God bless you. God bless you, God bless cat, God
bless your boys, and God bless whatever he brings to you.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Thank you so much. It's grace with you.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Bye Bye. Ordinary Angels is anything but an ordinary story,
yet it is a beautiful demonstration of how ordinary people,
flawed people, broken people can do extraordinary things when their
hearts are full and their determination is undeterred. The main
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characters are brilliantly portrayed by Hillary Swank and Alan Richson,
and there are many supporting characters you will fall in
love with.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Also.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
It opens in theaters on February twenty third and is
a wonderful, inspirational, feel good film to watch with your
family and friends. You can learn more about it at
Ordinary Angels dot movie, and you can follow the film
on social media at Kingdom Story Company. Our guest today,
Alan Ritson is involved in so many projects and as
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an unashamed fangirl, I am such a fangirl. I want
to see them all. You can catch up with Alan
at Alandashrichson dot com, Alan Dash Richson, r itcchs win
dot com. But be sure to have a glass of
water or be near an open window, because woo, you're
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gonna get a little flashed. As our friend Leanne Morgan
would say, he is just so yummy. Oh my darling,
he is yummy. Experts say that keeping active is the
key to positive physical and mental health. It's tough this
time of year, though, isn't it. I find that if
I can just sneak out between the rain breaks or
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take a short walk, breathe in some fresh air, look
and listen closely to what surrounds me, to be present,
it is a real moodlifter. Arts and crafts projects get
me out of my head and into the physical world too.
What do you do to occupy yourself on dreary days?
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Besides taking in ordinary angels? Go to the theater February
twenty third, and of course tuning into my radio program
each and every night. Perhaps just taking each day as
it comes and remembering to slow down and love someone
will bring the sunshine to your heart.
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